Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

2017-03-31 Thread Jason McKemie
Thanks for the replies. I bought the IPs at auction, so they were assigned elsewhere previously. All POC information has been updated. I'm going to have DNS setup sometime soon, but my email is run on Google Apps, so I don't think that will be necessary - correct me if I am wrong. What does

[AFMUG] Forget Wi-Fi, This Ultrafast New Technology Is 100 Times Faster Than the Best Wi-Fi

2017-03-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
Old technology revamp Myhttp:// wallstreetpit.com/113133-forget-wi-fi-ultrafast-technology-100-times-faster-best-wi-fi/?google_editors_picks=true

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL question

2017-03-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Make sure to only employ vectoring on adjacent pairs in the same cable. From: Stefan Englhardt Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 7:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VDSL question Zyxel VES1724-55C 1HE, Temperaturehardened, 24 Modems, Vectoring, 2xSFP or GE, Webinterface Von:

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
The list I remember was more extensive, but here's one that's ringing a bell. https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130122055317/http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/GeoIP - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL question

2017-03-31 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Zyxel VES1724-55C 1HE, Temperaturehardened, 24 Modems, Vectoring, 2xSFP or GE, Webinterface Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Luthman Gesendet: Freitag, 31. März 2017 22:56 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] VDSL question Awesome sauce, thanks! Anyone have

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

2017-03-31 Thread Sterling Jacobson
There is also a list of geo response sites that you should make sure are updated with your new geo information for your block. I didn’t know about that and all of the major streaming services banned all of my blocks one day, causing a ton of phone calls. It cost me a few customers and lots of

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

2017-03-31 Thread Erich Kaiser
Make sure origin ASN is established correctly in Arin. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: > 1.If you can research where the block came from that will help.

Re: [AFMUG] Python and snmpset

2017-03-31 Thread dmmoffett
In Python try Snimpy. Snimpy. Is. The. Shit. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Matt wrote: > > Anyone using Python and netsnmp library to set values on Cambium gear? > Care to share a code example? Having trouble getting the snmpset to > work

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

2017-03-31 Thread Justin Wilson
1.If you can research where the block came from that will help. Was it assigned somewhere else? Or is it part of space IANA released? 2.Make sure your POCs are up to date. 3.Make sure you have a reverse DNS server setup. Very important if you have mail servers you are going to put on these

[AFMUG] New IP block

2017-03-31 Thread Jason McKemie
So, Paul's thread has me a bit concerned about activating a new IP block that I got through ARIN. Up to this point I've just used addresses delegated by my upstream​. In the next few weeks I'm going to be bringing my own addresses on-net. Anyone have a "checklist" of things that need be done to

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Jason McKemie
Very nice, and of course there is no small business exemption I assume? On Friday, March 31, 2017, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Yeah, tough to read. > > Big issues I had with it: > > Creates 3 classes of information that you have to protect in different > ways - “PI” (proprietary

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Yeah, tough to read. Big issues I had with it: Creates 3 classes of information that you have to protect in different ways - “PI” (proprietary information), “CPNI” (customer proprietary network information), and "content of communications" Requires that you keep track of “opt-in” for certain

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL question

2017-03-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
Zyxel, and others, have a number of config that are automatically loaded to their own modems but not others. This may led to unexpected results when swapping DSLAMs between manufacturers. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017, 3:56 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Awesome sauce, thanks! >

[AFMUG] Python and snmpset

2017-03-31 Thread Matt
Anyone using Python and netsnmp library to set values on Cambium gear? Care to share a code example? Having trouble getting the snmpset to work but snmpget works fine so far. If I use snmpset on linux command line it works fine. This is on Centos 7 release. This seems to work fine. import

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

2017-03-31 Thread PE R
Hello, ZTE has not completed Interoperability Testing (IOT) with Ubiquiti, therefore, their EMS and ACS will not be able to manage our ONTs, nor, is there any guarantee that traffic will be passed. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions regarding ZTE IOT. Thanks - Parker

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL question

2017-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Awesome sauce, thanks! Anyone have a recommendation for a VDSL dslam? =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, wrote: > VDSL modems are standards based and should work with other

Re: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

2017-03-31 Thread SmarterBroadband
TowerCoverage told my tech they are not adding any more default antennas. We have to do our own. We have the Ant files from Cambium. I will check with my tech to see what the issue is. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] Strange OSPF problem

2017-03-31 Thread Adam Moffett
One other thingI had a couple of anomalies go away when I switched OSPF interfaces from broadcast to point-to-point mode. I thought the only difference was the OSFP messages are sent unicast, but a few goofy things stopped happening when I did that. That’s something I hadn’t

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

2017-03-31 Thread Carlos Alcantar
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Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

2017-03-31 Thread Trey Scarborough
So you have confirmed it works with ZTE then I am guessing by this response. Good to know I have quite a few of those around to test until the ONUs are in stock again. On 3/31/2017 1:21 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: It works...I guess if you are looking to manage it in their platform, that might be

Re: [AFMUG] Strange OSPF problem

2017-03-31 Thread Justin Marshall
Is the customer connecting via PPPoE? That would generate a /32 route that is being advertised. No. There is a hotspot involved, but we’ve already tried bypassing that and no difference. Any routing marks involved? Any mangle or firewall rules which would match this customer and not others?

[AFMUG] Heavy Equipment Sourcing

2017-03-31 Thread Jason McKemie
I've found a couple of LM42's that look like a good option, however they both have the backhoe attachment - which I want, but I also would like the trencher and boring attachments. Has anyone found these separately? My local Vermeer dealer claims they rarely if ever see them separate from a

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Adam Moffett
I started reading the overturned order...19 pages in I realized there were 200 pages to go and I don't have time for it. The privacy protections stated in the existing US Code section 222 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/222) seem clear and sufficient to me. What additional

Re: [AFMUG] Google Maps

2017-03-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha... On Mar 31, 2017 12:20 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Ms. Pacman. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
This is the order that was overturned by Congress, and will go away if the President signs the CRA: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-16-148A1.pdf There are many more issues with this rule than the press is making

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

2017-03-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
It works...I guess if you are looking to manage it in their platform, that might be difficult, but all you need is a profile for it on the OLT. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:07 PM, wrote: > I would not expect any random ONT to have full functionality. They might >

Re: [AFMUG] Google Maps

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Ms. Pacman. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:13:35 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL question

2017-03-31 Thread chuck
VDSL modems are standards based and should work with other dslams. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 12:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] VDSL question I've had an old old old Zyxel VES 1000 dslam that I inherited from the building. How interchangeable are dslam and

[AFMUG] VDSL question

2017-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
I've had an old old old Zyxel VES 1000 dslam that I inherited from the building. How interchangeable are dslam and vdsl modems? I just pulled up my last spare and the replacement looks to be $1900 on ebay. All 12 ports are mode "10baseS". They have various up/down rates. I think we have Zyxel

Re: [AFMUG] Google Maps

2017-03-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
What is supposed to happen? On Mar 31, 2017 12:01 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > maps.google.com Check it out. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

2017-03-31 Thread chuck
I would not expect any random ONT to have full functionality. They might workish... From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON So, other ONTs will work? The beta store is sold out of the Ubiquiti ONTs every time I check.

Re: [AFMUG] Google Maps

2017-03-31 Thread David Coudron
Already wasted 10 minutes of my day….  David Coudron david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474 Advantenon, Inc. [cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]

[AFMUG] Google Maps

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
maps.google.com Check it out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

2017-03-31 Thread Jason McKemie
So, other ONTs will work? The beta store is sold out of the Ubiquiti ONTs every time I check. On Friday, March 31, 2017, Chuck Hogg wrote: > The UBNT equipment is plain GPON standard. Works on other GPON > equipment. ZTE included. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Wed, Mar 29,

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

2017-03-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
The UBNT equipment is plain GPON standard. Works on other GPON equipment. ZTE included. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I've got a couple reels of 3/8" steel cable. Definitely not light stuff... > > > On Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm always in favor of letting the big guys hang themselves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Strange OSPF problem

2017-03-31 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Is the customer connecting via PPPoE? That would generate a /32 route that is being advertised. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Any routing marks involved? Any mangle or firewall rules which would > match this customer and not others? > > When you're

Re: [AFMUG] Strange OSPF problem

2017-03-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Any routing marks involved? Any mangle or firewall rules which would match this customer and not others? When you're saying "traceroute stops at", is that the site giving the last reply? What if you specify different source IP's on your traceroute from the NOC? Maybe tower A is missing

[AFMUG] Strange OSPF problem

2017-03-31 Thread Justin Marshall
Hi, I have an odd situation with OSPF. There are 2 towers (Tower A and Tower B) and a NOC involved that feeds both towers. Tower A is directly connected to the NOC via Mikrotik Backhaul. Tower B is directly connected to the NOC via Fiber. Tower B is connected to Tower A via Fiber. When tower

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Jason McKemie
I'd agree with this. Anything greedy that the big guys do (even from only a perception standpoint) is good for us. It's a great marketing tool. So long as they don't figure a way to force anything on all of us. On Friday, March 31, 2017, Mathew Howard wrote: > Somebody

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread chuck
Over the course of my career, I do not recall failures due to high temps but many due to low temps. From: Trey Scarborough Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? Forrest, I think this is a great idea and would be one of

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Trey Scarborough
Forrest, I think this is a great idea and would be one of the first to want some. If you could just run power and fiber up and get sync/power and fiber conversion in one unit it would simplify things greatly. I have been looking in to some of the gigabit sfp conversion as well for a

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread chuck
Totally true, it never took effect, so nothing changes. Folks love it when the sky is falling. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:50 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge Somebody posted the link to the WISPA filing on this in the other thread here... there is

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Trey Scarborough
Me three! On 3/31/2017 10:51 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I know a guy that wants that too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
It's really a shame these companies keep coming out with new radios without SFPs. They full well knew that we wanted it before they even started development of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I know a guy that wants that too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 10:16:28 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Mathew Howard
Somebody posted the link to the WISPA filing on this in the other thread here... there is more going on here than the stuff about selling information that's stuck all over the news. Maybe it is a big corporate handout, in some ways, but as far as I can tell, it's good for the likes of us in every

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
A switch in line breaks the capabilities of the backhaul to drop the Ethernet to force the IGP to reconverge immediately. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul McCall"

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Rory Conaway
So, is there any doubt that Google had employees that rotated throughout the Obama administration, Google had a hand in Net Neutrality, or that 20 pages of the act were pulled right before the vote? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, March 31,

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
In migration to fiber to the radio, you replace the media conversion\PoE with a fiber patch cord and raw DC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
As few electronics as required up top. No switching\routing. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul McCall" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
They want a stand per radio, with a fiber to universal poe converter on each strand. That way all of their switchgear can be at the bottom. If you replace all of the Lan ports in a syncinjector with sfp ports, then you get the idea. I can think of lots of other ways to make this work, enough

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread chuck
Yeah, Cambium are you listening? Disruptive category killer here. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? I really really really really really want every radio to do SFP and DC. Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread chuck
Multi strand fiber and super cheap media converters would really simplify the tower top. Put the smarts at the base of the tower. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? An industrial switch on the tower

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Bill Prince
Nor is it "news". bp On 3/31/2017 12:40 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: It's not evidence if it is made up or slanted to serve an agenda. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Rory Conaway > wrote: Yea, I believe

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Sorry, I couldn't help it. https://xkcd.com/386/ Good luck with the Privacy Pledge thing. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve D" To: "af" Sent: 3/31/2017 10:58:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge Peter is getting the ball rolling on a piece

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Gino Villarini
Would it be easier and more universal just to have an external poe converter: Poe in (from netonix, UBNT S16,Fiber POE) poe+sync out ? From: Af > on behalf of "li...@packetflux.com"

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Steve D
Peter is getting the ball rolling on a piece of marketing for something small isp's are probably doing anyway and to help drive people from the big dogs. I'd say sign up, and astro-turf this into every Reddit , ars Technica , whatever comment section that talks about this stuff and get some

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Paul McCall
If I had to guess when someone says they don’t want a switch up top, its probably because of a practical consideration. Its why we didn’t put Netonix up there. We wanted simple. The “switch” part of the S16 is non “thing” to us. The VLANs are needed only because BHs are in it and OSPF

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Adam Moffett
An industrial switch on the tower doesn't trouble me either. The objection might be that it's a point of failure for every other device on the tower. The sync/media converter thing could be also. -- Original Message -- From: "Paul McCall" To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Paul McCall
How do not have a switch up if you have any form of a SyncInjector there? “the non-POE side of the injector” needs to go somewhere, unless you are saying that every POE port has a corresponding fiber port that would mate with a fiber strand coming down the tower and have a router with a bunch

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
What I keep hearing from customers is that they want to run a multistrand cable up the tower and have an all in one box at the top which they terminate the cable into, hook up power to it, and then run short jumpers to their radios. I've heard this from enough different customers that it seems

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Adam Moffett
I wasn't gonna say anything. I did read the article, and the wikileaks email it cites. The problem is not that the source is Julian Assange, it's that it's Julian Assange's opinion. The cited email doesn't say Google is feeding data to Hillary. Jared Coen (Google Exec) is informing Hillary

Re: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

2017-03-31 Thread Jerry Head
We could use the 900 file please. On 3/28/2017 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Before we reinvent the wheel. Does anyone have TowerCoverage .ant antenna pattern files (ready to upload) for the following you are willing to share. epmp 2000 5GHz sector Model #C050900D021A (with and without

[AFMUG] Friday Fun: Largest Reflector Dish

2017-03-31 Thread Ray Savich
Friday Fun: show us your largest reflector dish on Cambium equipment http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Friday-Fun/March-31-2017-My-Reflector/m-p/70987#U70987 Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Paul McCall
Forrest, For what it is worth, when we went Fiber (MST) up the tower, we run UBNT S16s up there which is simple and working well, and GPS pucks on the ePMP, or Syncbox 12 (or Junior) for devices that need sync. We have a handful of 450s, 25 320s, and a dozen or so 900s where we use the

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

2017-03-31 Thread Dennis Burgess
http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=734=20 Outdoor ready. Don’t know if this helps… Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE,

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Oh brother... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:17:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Jason McKemie
WikiLeaks releases only what they feel will help their agenda, which also happens to be Putin's agenda. I don't watch Rachel Maddow, so I can't speak to anything she does. The New York Times has significantly more journalistic integrity than Brietbart. On Friday, March 31, 2017, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Rory Conaway
So Wikieleaks hasn’t published any fake data ever, but because Brietbart writes about it, that means it’s fake data. But if the New York Times or Rachel Maddow said the same thing, you would accept that as truth. And you don’t see a problem with that? Rory From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Comcast testing prepaid service

2017-03-31 Thread Rory Conaway
Haha, yea, missed that. Thanks. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Kunat Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 12:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comcast testing prepaid service In 2013. On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:34 PM, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] Comcast testing prepaid service

2017-03-31 Thread David Kunat
In 2013. > On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:34 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > > http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/02/comcast-tests-xfinity-prepaid-internet-service/index.htm > > > Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO > 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 > 602-426-0542

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Jason McKemie
It's not evidence if it is made up or slanted to serve an agenda. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Yea, I believe WickieLeaks but nice try. It’s amazing that you care more > about the source of the writing than the evidence the brought forth. This

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

2017-03-31 Thread Rory Conaway
Yea, I believe WickieLeaks but nice try. It’s amazing that you care more about the source of the writing than the evidence the brought forth. This information, although sparse, is accurate. I’m sure that you don’t believe Google employees were working in the administration and had nothing to