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" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 11:21:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... I wonder what Nauvoo is, at one time its population was equal to Chicago. They had a charter from the state to create a university. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesda

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I wonder what Nauvoo is, at one time its population was equal to Chicago. They had a charter from the state to create a university. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... Any “towns” in Illinois were incorporated

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Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 8:43:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... Any “towns” in Illinois were incorporated before the 1872 Cities and Village

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incorporated, after 1872, and you’re not a city, you’re a village. I live in a village. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 8:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... We have townships and communities too where things are unincorporated. From: Josh

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fg.com>> wrote: We have townships and communities too where things are unincorporated. *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PT

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orporated. > > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:35 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... > > We have villages in Ohio. Example: http://villageofannaoh.com/ > > > Josh Luthman

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We have townships and communities too where things are unincorporated. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... We have villages in Ohio. Example: http://villageofannaoh.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

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lto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... If only Cambium woul

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To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:29:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... I had never heard the term "village" used in North America until recently. "Towns" and "cities" yes, but I was always under the assumption a "village" was

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stribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > dwh...@converge-tech.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:21 PM > *To:*

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-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... If only Cambium would let us unlock 4.9 on ePMP for the

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f-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... If only Cambium would let us unlock 4.9 on ePMP for the gov't projects we're doing hint hint, poke poke. On 7/26/2016 3:12 PM, Daniel White

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<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 3:53 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... Good to know, I will take a look. Is a county office OK to use

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Gracias, Jaime! On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: > All products *except* the B5 (A5, A5c, B5c, B5-Lite, C5 and when released > C5c). > > The nature of the tuning of the B5 dish and waveguide style design makes > it a poor efficiency match down at 4.9 GHz so

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PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@smarterbroadband.com> > wrote: > > who have you used? > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:01 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... > >

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t:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:12 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... > > > If it is under a government FRN… then there is no license fees. > > > > You can’t have the link licensed under your FRN. > > > > Daniel White > &g

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Between Two FRNs. From: Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... If it is under a government FRN… then there is no license fees. You can’t have the link licensed under your FRN. Daniel White Managing Director

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ch.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 8:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... >public safety agency owns the equipment they can license and only pay >coordination costs (no FCC fees) So when

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d services contract. > > > > Daniel White > > Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > dwh...@converge-tech.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterB

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om: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 3:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... Good to know, I will take a look. Is a county office OK to use 4.9? Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaim

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Just the B5c? Or is the B5 certified as well? We might need to change an order... I just received our 4.9GHz license a couple weeks ago. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: > B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+ > aggregate in

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I don't think it would be possible to meet the equivalent of ETSI class 3 with such a small antenna... They could easily (from a regulatory standpoint) allow higher Tx power for 24 GHz unlicensed FDD or TDD links if the antennas met a criteria of certain sidelobe dB falloff at specific number of

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Be careful what you wish for. Remember that the Tx antenna on the AF24 is smaller/wider beam. On 7/25/2016 6:46 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Naturally it's better than an AF24 (or even AF24HD) since the 24 band is limited to +0 Tx power... I would be really happy if the FCC and IC would permit 24

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h Reynolds > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 5:14 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... > > Ubiquiti has a 4.9GHz AirFiber. > https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AF-4X-USA===0 > > 17.1Mbps/MHz > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:57 PM

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Didn't know On Jul 25, 2016 6:15 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Ubiquiti has a 4.9GHz AirFiber. > https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AF-4X-USA===0 > > 17.1Mbps/MHz > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:57 PM, SmarterBroadband > wrote: > > We

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Is it out now? I saw something that said September? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 5:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... Ubiquiti has a 4.9GHz AirFiber. https

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Ubiquiti has a 4.9GHz AirFiber. https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AF-4X-USA===0 17.1Mbps/MHz On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:57 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > We currently provide 100 meg to our local county offices on an AF24. > > > > They want us to move the

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Naturally it's better than an AF24 (or even AF24HD) since the 24 band is limited to +0 Tx power... I would be really happy if the FCC and IC would permit 24 GHz unlicensed PTP with higher Tx power, if they put a firm limitation on the quality of antennas for sidelobes and f/b ratio at least

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We have an ExtendAir G2 18Ghz at 2.5 miles on 2' dishes to a 100Mbps enterprise customer. It's definitely better than an AF24 in the rain. Of course it's at -34dBm RSL, too. I'm not real happy with Exalt and the G2 failures we've had, but this pair has been fine for the most part. To go 4.3

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ExtendAir G2? On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Exalt for the 23 gig gear. I think our cost was around 6500. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: > >> B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200

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SAF Integra 18 or 23 GHz 1024QAM in one polarity? Choose either the integrated antenna version or slipfit if you think you might want 3'/4' antennas or re-use the radios someday in the future for a longer link. County government, you're probably talking about a 36 month+ service term, so work

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; > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Fink > *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 2:23 PM > *To:* Jaime Solorza; af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... > > > > B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 2

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Good to know, I will take a look. Is a county office OK to use 4.9? Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Fink Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:23 PM To: Jaime Solorza; af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y

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Exalt for the 23 gig gear. I think our cost was around 6500. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: > B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+ > aggregate in it’s max allowable channel configuration in that band. Great > distance for

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B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+ aggregate in it’s max allowable channel configuration in that band. Great distance for it. Jaime Fink • Mimosa • CPO & Co-Founder On July 25, 2016 at 2:18:33 PM, Jaime Solorza

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Our county folks have Cisco 4.9Ghz radios but are replacing with 3.65 GHz due to hundreds of Radwins used across border by state and federal agencies. I know Airaya had some 4.9GHz ptp solutions I know in 5GHz once they go up they stay up pretty solidly. On Jul 25, 2016 2:57 PM,

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who have you used? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... 23 gig. Tell them that they can pay off the install costs in 6 payments over 6 months and swallow the cost

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23 gig. Tell them that they can pay off the install costs in 6 payments over 6 months and swallow the cost of getting a great connection with room to grow... On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:57 PM, SmarterBroadband < li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: > We currently provide 100 meg to our local county

[AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

We currently provide 100 meg to our local county offices on an AF24. They want us to move the link to another location will be a 4.3 mile link, so AF24 is out. I need a link to do 100 meg now and be able to do 200 when requested, I want five nines, so Licensed. Can I use 4.9 Ghz for