Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
We are working on it Matt (and Bill)... very hard. Beta of R13.4 (which
includes this fix) should be available shortly, likely within 2 weeks.
Stay tuned for announcement on this.
Matt
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
When it morphs into 13.3.1.
Last I heard was maybe March.
Oh. Wait. It's March!
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 1:31 PM, Matt wrote:
When will Cambium 13.3 with working alignment tone be released?
Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs
$250/no contract or less than 4Mbps $100 setup, 2 year contract, 4Mbps or higher (if they cancel early they pay the remainder of the $250 setup, in this case $150) $0 setup, 2 year contract, 10Mbps or higher (if they cancel early they pay the remainder of the $250 setup, in this case $250) Our WISP competition is slightly cheaper than us per month, but does a $500/3 year cancellation fee. (We are roughly 3x larger than them as well) Our setups cost us a lot due to the terrain and conditions here, roughly $450 off the top of my head for about half the installs (tripod on roof, 5 ft pole, rocket + rocket dish, 2 man crew). The other half of our setups are UBAMs and NanoBridges, so those are cheaper. ARPU/mo out here is roughly $86/mo. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 12:21 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Josh - What do you typically charge customers for an install? On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Roku LT, and now that it's EOL, the streaming stick. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 11:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Which model Josh? We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the router on. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a free roku (basic model, 720p). It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our customers a superior impression of us as an ISP. We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from another provider and install the roku. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that are causing the rest of you support calls? Or just me? Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems. My impression is buggy apps or updates that break stuff. But of course everyone tells the customer it's their Internet. I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that should affect everything, not just one app. I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.
[AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
He got ahold of me off list. Thx guys! On Monday, March 2, 2015, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs
I recently had to deal with a Samsung problem for the cable company I consult for. Turns out Samsung had a server outage that affected the D and E models if memory serves. Of course it had to happen the very same day the cable plant made some fairly large changes (last Tuesday), so it took a little digging to track down the problem. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs $250/no contract or less than 4Mbps $100 setup, 2 year contract, 4Mbps or higher (if they cancel early they pay the remainder of the $250 setup, in this case $150) $0 setup, 2 year contract, 10Mbps or higher (if they cancel early they pay the remainder of the $250 setup, in this case $250) Our WISP competition is slightly cheaper than us per month, but does a $500/3 year cancellation fee. (We are roughly 3x larger than them as well) Our setups cost us a lot due to the terrain and conditions here, roughly $450 off the top of my head for about half the installs (tripod on roof, 5 ft pole, rocket + rocket dish, 2 man crew). The other half of our setups are UBAMs and NanoBridges, so those are cheaper. ARPU/mo out here is roughly $86/mo. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.comOn 03/02/2015 12:21 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Josh - What do you typically charge customers for an install? On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Roku LT, and now that it's EOL, the streaming stick. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 11:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Which model Josh? We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the router on. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a free roku (basic model, 720p). It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our customers a superior impression of us as an ISP. We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from another provider and install the roku. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that are causing the rest of you support calls? Or just me? Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems. My impression is buggy apps or updates that break stuff. But of course everyone tells the customer it's their Internet. I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that should affect everything, not just one app. I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
Thanks Matt!
Good to know that my memory is close to correct!
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 1:43 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
We are working on it Matt (and Bill)... very hard. Beta of R13.4 (which
includes this fix) should be available shortly, likely within 2 weeks.
Stay tuned for announcement on this.
Matt
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
When it morphs into 13.3.1.
Last I heard was maybe March.
Oh. Wait. It's March!
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 1:31 PM, Matt wrote:
When will Cambium 13.3 with working alignment tone be released?
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
Chuck, are you make fun on me? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 4:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3 yes mat and copany are work the hard work to make the gud software fast quick be patient to have a day or some for best results -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3 We are working on it Matt (and Bill)... very hard. Beta of R13.4 (which includes this fix) should be available shortly, likely within 2 weeks. Stay tuned for announcement on this. Matt Thanks for update. When it morphs into 13.3.1. Last I heard was maybe March. Oh. Wait. It's March! When will Cambium 13.3 with working alignment tone be released?
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
I agree.
When homes do not, or can not have structured wiring, the powerline
adapters are the next best thing. They have some limitations, but beat
the tar out of using repeaters.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 2:05 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
Take a look at Homeplug or BPL devices. We recently reviewed a few
Homeplug v2 adapters with WiFi. They performed quite nicely. We are
using them to extend IPTV throughout houses that can't be wired. In
most cases we could perform 4 HD multicast streams. So between 40-60mb/s.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
The Apple extender thing is basically WDS. It works better than
some, but it's still an extender. Problem is, you can almost
never tell how good or bad the signal is between the extender and
the base station.
I just have a blanket prohibition against the use of extenders.
More problems than they are worth.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 11:00 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
The best I’ve seen in a house so far is Apple implementation.
It’s probably the best and easiest, and the customer does it
themselves.
I wired a person’s main floor from their basement, which had the
Apple Time capsule.
His computer did 100/100 and so I put the extender in between the
computer and the wall on the main floor.
Then is computer still did around 90+Mbps (I think the extenders
are only 100Base T FDX) and his iPhone6 did the same wirelessly
at 98Mbps.
I don’t know much about Apple, so the customer, who was also not
very technically inclined, just loaded up the Apple App on his
phone, and it auto discovered the new extender, added it to the
network topology and BAM, done.
He also had an extender on the top floor.
Easiest solution ever.
Is there anything like this for non-Apple people??
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:40 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
We've generally done one SSID with success.
At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way
back.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies
m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com wrote:
I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away
with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.
Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered
around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be
the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?
--
Thanks,
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
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Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... From: Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com Subject: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
As others have said on this thread.. The XW Titanium units are worlds better (in terms of speed and interference immunity) than the TI and XM radios. They are stable if you run the interface at 100 Mbps instead of 1 Gbps. If the regular rockets are now available in XW I suppose those would be as good as long as you add shielding. I personally would just use the XW Titaniums to avoid the cumbersome shield. What I really want however is the AC radios with backwards compatibility so I can deploy a mixed N/AC network. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
We are working on it Matt (and Bill)... very hard. Beta of R13.4 (which includes this fix) should be available shortly, likely within 2 weeks. Stay tuned for announcement on this. Matt Thanks for update. When it morphs into 13.3.1. Last I heard was maybe March. Oh. Wait. It's March! When will Cambium 13.3 with working alignment tone be released?
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
Take a look at Homeplug or BPL devices. We recently reviewed a few Homeplug
v2 adapters with WiFi. They performed quite nicely. We are using them to
extend IPTV throughout houses that can't be wired. In most cases we could
perform 4 HD multicast streams. So between 40-60mb/s.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
The Apple extender thing is basically WDS. It works better than some,
but it's still an extender. Problem is, you can almost never tell how good
or bad the signal is between the extender and the base station.
I just have a blanket prohibition against the use of extenders. More
problems than they are worth.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 11:00 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
The best I’ve seen in a house so far is Apple implementation.
It’s probably the best and easiest, and the customer does it themselves.
I wired a person’s main floor from their basement, which had the Apple
Time capsule.
His computer did 100/100 and so I put the extender in between the computer
and the wall on the main floor.
Then is computer still did around 90+Mbps (I think the extenders are only
100Base T FDX) and his iPhone6 did the same wirelessly at 98Mbps.
I don’t know much about Apple, so the customer, who was also not very
technically inclined, just loaded up the Apple App on his phone, and it
auto discovered the new extender, added it to the network topology and BAM,
done.
He also had an extender on the top floor.
Easiest solution ever.
Is there anything like this for non-Apple people??
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:40 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
We've generally done one SSID with success.
At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com
wrote:
I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.
Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?
--
Thanks,
Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com
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Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
yes mat and copany are work the hard work to make the gud software fast quick be patient to have a day or some for best results -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3 We are working on it Matt (and Bill)... very hard. Beta of R13.4 (which includes this fix) should be available shortly, likely within 2 weeks. Stay tuned for announcement on this. Matt Thanks for update. When it morphs into 13.3.1. Last I heard was maybe March. Oh. Wait. It's March! When will Cambium 13.3 with working alignment tone be released?
Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs
Josh - What do you typically charge customers for an install? On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Roku LT, and now that it's EOL, the streaming stick. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 11:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Which model Josh? We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the router on. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a free roku (basic model, 720p). It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our customers a superior impression of us as an ISP. We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from another provider and install the roku. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that are causing the rest of you support calls? Or just me? Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems. My impression is buggy apps or updates that break stuff. But of course everyone tells the customer it's their Internet. I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that should affect everything, not just one app. I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.
[AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
When will Cambium 13.3 with working alignment tone be released?
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
I see you didn't include the Telrad list. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org, patrick leary patrick.le...@telrad.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 4:49:53 PM Subject: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
ePMP v1. Jokes on us, I think. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Matt Mangriotis matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Chuck, are you make fun on me? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 4:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3 yes mat and copany are work the hard work to make the gud software fast quick be patient to have a day or some for best results -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3 We are working on it Matt (and Bill)... very hard. Beta of R13.4 (which includes this fix) should be available shortly, likely within 2 weeks. Stay tuned for announcement on this. Matt Thanks for update. When it morphs into 13.3.1. Last I heard was maybe March. Oh. Wait. It's March! When will Cambium 13.3 with working alignment tone be released?
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Thx. I wont have a chance to test agaie till Friday. Jaime Solorza On Mar 2, 2015 11:41 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote: Hope this helps you Jaime, it is just some notes from a PTP and a PTMP setup I have that seem to be delivering good results. When I was running in a noisier environment (PTMP with 12 CPE) I went with an 8mhz channel width to give decent throughput but not wide enough to be affected by all of the noise. ryan On 3/1/15 12:57 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Will try that Jaime Solorza On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in that regard. I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on the AP and station. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Software Release 13.3
When it morphs into 13.3.1.
Last I heard was maybe March.
Oh. Wait. It's March!
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 1:31 PM, Matt wrote:
When will Cambium 13.3 with working alignment tone be released?
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
We can't all sign with an X you know. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Completely. Before I knew his name, I held out my hand and introduced myself and he looked at me like I was a ghost. On Mar 2, 2015 6:45 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Seriously? I met a guy there with the name Luttman, that's definitely fun XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
Not unless it's for a UPS shipment... :P On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We can't all sign with an X you know. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Completely. Before I knew his name, I held out my hand and introduced myself and he looked at me like I was a ghost. On Mar 2, 2015 6:45 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Seriously? I met a guy there with the name Luttman, that's definitely fun XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
[AFMUG] The ePMP experience...
After using the ePMP platform this is what it makes me feel like... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2NEY2ppiQ Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
ducks I think their tool was missing an SFP port /ducks - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool Did anyone let Mimosa know their tool wasn't working as expected? They've shown to be very responsive to me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:00:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I did not. I ended up going back through and editing the output of the tool to the FCC's specifications. Fairly painstaking, and for a larger network probably impractical. On Monday, March 2, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Did you find an alternate tool? Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
Oh so you were serious about that SFP port? ;) Seriously I'm going to frame that thing and put it in our lobby with a cheesy picture of Mike. FYI the 477 tool is working fine, just needs the proper spreadsheet rows included. Just use the in app chat to ask for help instantly, or shoot us an email at email at supp...@mimosa.comailto:supp...@mimosa.co if you're running into problems importing. Cheers, Jaime Fink CPO Co-Founder Mimosa On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:23 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: ducks I think their tool was missing an SFP port /ducks - Original Message - From: Mike Hammettmailto:af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool Did anyone let Mimosa know their tool wasn't working as expected? They've shown to be very responsive to me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.commailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:00:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I did not. I ended up going back through and editing the output of the tool to the FCC's specifications. Fairly painstaking, and for a larger network probably impractical. On Monday, March 2, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.commailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Did you find an alternate tool? Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info
act first, ask questions later... - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Indeed I am. I take it your experiences slightly further north haven’t been much better? lol From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info sounds like you're in Alabama. :) - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info It is backwards. When we moved around 15 years ago we couldn’t get phone service because no one could give us our E911 address. Apparently the only person in the county that could tell us what our address was went on a two month long vacation. That should tell you the level of professionalism we’re dealing with here. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info You're referring to geolocating someone? You can likely thank your local counties for having backwards addressing systems if they have an addressing system at all. I don't know how anything but WISPMon does it, but you punch in the address, but then can manually relocate the location. You'd need to do that for tracking your customers in pretty much any other fashion. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:10:41 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info I know this wasn’t directed at me, but the USGS data given to Google, Yahoo, etc, is wrong for a huge portion of my coverage area if not all of it. I’m not sure if that is the case elsewhere, but in west central Alabama using GPS or Google maps is a joke. I visually find the home on Google maps and then look at the link on Terrain Nav Pro. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Your billing system doesn't know where all of your towers are, what they are, etc.? It doesn't have customer qualification capabilities? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:27:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Why would you use your billing system to report your coverage area to the FCC? Surely you don't have customers at every possible location that you can provide service to?!?! We use towercoverage.com because it reports all the locations that we can provide service to. 2 cents -Sean On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com wrote: The hardest part for the Fixed Broadband Deployment portion of the filing is understanding what the FCC wants and then manipulating the data to get it into the format the Commission requires after you find where to find the Census information. (The Census information by state is all on http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/census-blocks-state) You just have to massage it to make it fit. I use Platypus and Tucows has a really nice easy button push to generate the Fixed Broadband Subscription information. The subscription can be done manually if you can find the census maps. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: http://data.fcc.gov/api/block/find?latitude=32.515986longitude=87.834804showall=true Still get an error, xml error rather than 404 this time. Why can't I figure this crap out? Epically frustrating. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Long and lat should be decimal for one Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 26, 2015 11:12 AM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: What am I doing wrong? http://data.fcc.gov/api/block/2010/find?latitude=32%C2%B030%2757.55%22Nlongitude=87%C2%B050%275.30%22Wshowall=true - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
Seriously? I met a guy there with the name Luttman, that's definitely fun XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
how does that work - isn't internet a two-way communication? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. Nope. The towers only broadcast. They are not two-way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:16:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] The ePMP experience...
Mike Hammett is that you? It sure looks like it. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] The ePMP experience... After using the ePMP platform this is what it makes me feel like... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2NEY2ppiQ Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com/ http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
4000+ and counting - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 8:36:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association. We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL. We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O. This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs
I suggest you call your ISP. /sarcasm - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:53 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that are causing the rest of you support calls? Or just me? Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems. My impression is buggy apps or updates that break stuff. But of course everyone tells the customer it's their Internet. I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that should affect everything, not just one app. I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
That looks more like ~---~~~--- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Not unless it's for a UPS shipment... :P On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We can't all sign with an X you know. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Completely. Before I knew his name, I held out my hand and introduced myself and he looked at me like I was a ghost. On Mar 2, 2015 6:45 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Seriously? I met a guy there with the name Luttman, that's definitely fun XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
S F P ! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 2, 2015 10:43 PM, Jaime Fink ja...@mimosa.co wrote: Oh so you were serious about that SFP port? ;) Seriously I'm going to frame that thing and put it in our lobby with a cheesy picture of Mike. FYI the 477 tool is working fine, just needs the proper spreadsheet rows included. Just use the in app chat to ask for help instantly, or shoot us an email at email at supp...@mimosa.co if you're running into problems importing. Cheers, Jaime Fink CPO Co-Founder Mimosa On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:23 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: ducks I think their tool was missing an SFP port /ducks - Original Message - *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 11:01 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool Did anyone let Mimosa know their tool wasn't working as expected? They've shown to be very responsive to me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 11:00:56 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I did not. I ended up going back through and editing the output of the tool to the FCC's specifications. Fairly painstaking, and for a larger network probably impractical. On Monday, March 2, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Did you find an alternate tool? Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 7:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] The ePMP experience...
Wow 1999!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 2, 2015 9:57 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: After using the ePMP platform this is what it makes me feel like... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2NEY2ppiQ Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
Completely. Before I knew his name, I held out my hand and introduced myself and he looked at me like I was a ghost. On Mar 2, 2015 6:45 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Seriously? I met a guy there with the name Luttman, that's definitely fun XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
True... On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: That looks more like ~---~~~--- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Not unless it's for a UPS shipment... :P On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We can't all sign with an X you know. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Completely. Before I knew his name, I held out my hand and introduced myself and he looked at me like I was a ghost. On Mar 2, 2015 6:45 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Seriously? I met a guy there with the name Luttman, that's definitely fun XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Dear God. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 05:40 PM, Craig House wrote: 4000+ and counting *From: *CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 8:36:35 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) - Original Message - *From:* Glen Waldrop mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. *From:* Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM *To:* Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL. We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O. This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
We've had this discussion before, but I might as well re-state it. In the right environment, 900 will still have better penetration than 3.65, no matter what fancy trickery telrad has or has not endowed upon it. The TVWS equipment could be an option, although the regulatory uncertainty with the frequencies involved is a bit troubling. -Jason On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: On purpose? www.telrad.com www.runcom.com (I honestly ran out of time last week to talk them. I saw them advertise an LTE TVWS solution.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 8:40:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests 4000+ and counting -- *From: *CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 8:36:35 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) - Original Message - *From:* Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
i thought it, but wasn't gonna say it. i'm actually thinking sleep now. ummmslep. - Original Message - From: Caleb Knauer To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If I may put on my jerk hat for a second, what makes you think 5Ghz is WISP spectrum? It's not, just like 900/2.4Ghz isn't. You can't own unlicensed frequency, and as long as the gear is following P15 rules then there's pretty much nothing that you can do. 900Mhz died that way, and who knows what the future holds for 5Ghz. The only block you could consider WISP spectrum is 3.65, and with so many using the band that don't play by the rules with regards to registration etc I think maybe the feds are going to have a hard time allocating more this way. Also, go ahead and point your stuff at big red/blue, and while you may be within your legal rights it won't be a fun fight. Actually if they are just one way 5Ghz for downstream then it won't do anything to them anyway. Or maybe I'm just tired and cranky. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
Yes you are tired and cranky.. It's another round of david vs goliath where goliath uses the power of big money and numbers to crush the competition... we should just accept it.. its capitalism. hooray.. -PK
Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain
damn you spoiler alert!!! - Original Message - From: Daniel White To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain The Drone Strike thing has an interesting twist in Season 3 of House of Cards. Won’t ruin it because well it just came out and probably not many people spent the weekend binge watching it like I did… but what President Underwood tells someone who has his legs blown off by a drone strike and his family killed is interesting for sure. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain If a factory gets built that employees 500 people in a depressed region, that is arguably better for the many. Just like a drone strike that kills an ISIS head dude but also kills innocents. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain I disagree. Lets just say they took the family home that 4 or 5 generations come to every holiday. How is that better for the many? It is only better because you count the ones you see and ignore the ones you don’t. Not everything in this world is about money. My family is why I make money, not the other way around. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain The widow almost certainly got above fair market value. But you can’t put a value on the intangible value of a family home. Again, the 5th amendment of the US constitution has it right in there. The good of the many overrides the good of the few. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] emminient domain and i live in a town that literally took a widow's property in order to build a new plant / factory several years ago. yes, it was horrible, and it was done by the local economic development board' with the support of the county commissioners...but i failed to see how that was for the public use. of course if the woman had agreed to the price : / horrible horrible storybut i'm sure that new plant / factory is employing quite a few people. http://www.cullmantimes.com/archives/eminent-domain-on-agenda/article_3c30de17-6ed1-5a3b-ac21-8d4b2f1f4b63.html http://www.cullmantimes.com/community/rally-critical-of-city-leaders-actions/article_56b67d35-360f-5c99-aa09-1a9aefdbd574.html - Original Message - From: Trevor Bough To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link The 5th Amendment just established just compensation for eminent domain. It leaves it to the states to define what public use is. And the landowner still always has the right to argue their point that it is not going to be used for public use. Luckily, I live in a state that puts the onus on the condemning authority to prove the taking is definitely needed for public use. On Feb 28, 2015 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The 5th amendment of the US constitution took that from you many years ago. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should absolutely have the right to say what is or is not on my property. Working in the utility industry, I still find that idea completely terrifying. Electric utilities typically require at least 30' of dedicated ROW. Gas and water utilities typically require at least 20' of dedicated ROW. Would you like to be required to give up 70' of your front yard without any say? You still get to mow it and maintain it, but if the utility feels the shrub you planted will interfere with them operating their line, they have the right to come destroy it. I would love to have dedicated easements everywhere, but that is the reason there is dedicated public ROW everywhere. Honestly people would be much better off dedicating 20' to a utility easement when they record the legal description of their property. Virtually all utilities can fit into a single 20' easement, especially if several go aerial, they just don't like to. In my opinion, eminent domain should be a difficult process with a requirement on the condemning authority to
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
Hi, I'm Jay. He's Jay. In fact, most of us are Jays How are you? - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... From: Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com Subject: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
Yes. The licensed channel is used for the uplink. The 5 GHz stuff is just supplementary. If it doesn't work... oh well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:53:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. I'm guessing they're using the normal LTE stuff for the uplink... it makes sense, really. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: how does that work - isn't internet a two-way communication? blockquote - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. Nope. The towers only broadcast. They are not two-way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:16:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
yup yup - Original Message - From: Nate Burke To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. Wasn't that how it was back in the original Satellite internet days? They used the Satellite for the downlink, but the uplink was via dialup over a phone line. On 3/2/2015 9:53 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I'm guessing they're using the normal LTE stuff for the uplink... it makes sense, really. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: how does that work - isn't internet a two-way communication? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. Nope. The towers only broadcast. They are not two-way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:16:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
Very nicely done Ken! On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: All Hail Jay! Or J. Actually K. [image: allhailk] *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 10:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... Hi, I'm Jay. He's Jay. In fact, most of us are Jays How are you? - Original Message - *From:* Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 5:26 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
If I may put on my jerk hat for a second, what makes you think 5Ghz is WISP spectrum? It's not, just like 900/2.4Ghz isn't. You can't own unlicensed frequency, and as long as the gear is following P15 rules then there's pretty much nothing that you can do. 900Mhz died that way, and who knows what the future holds for 5Ghz. The only block you could consider WISP spectrum is 3.65, and with so many using the band that don't play by the rules with regards to registration etc I think maybe the feds are going to have a hard time allocating more this way. Also, go ahead and point your stuff at big red/blue, and while you may be within your legal rights it won't be a fun fight. Actually if they are just one way 5Ghz for downstream then it won't do anything to them anyway. Or maybe I'm just tired and cranky. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
I'm guessing they're using the normal LTE stuff for the uplink... it makes sense, really. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: how does that work - isn't internet a two-way communication? - Original Message - *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 11:17 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. Nope. The towers only broadcast. They are not two-way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 11:16:14 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
Wasn't that how it was back in the original Satellite internet days? They used the Satellite for the downlink, but the uplink was via dialup over a phone line. On 3/2/2015 9:53 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I'm guessing they're using the normal LTE stuff for the uplink... it makes sense, really. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: how does that work - isn't internet a two-way communication? - Original Message - *From:* Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 11:17 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. Nope. The towers only broadcast. They are not two-way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com mailto:t...@nwohiobb.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 11:16:14 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ *Peter Kranz *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 tel:510-868-1614%20x100 Mobile: 510-207- tel:510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
On purpose? www.telrad.com www.runcom.com (I honestly ran out of time last week to talk them. I saw them advertise an LTE TVWS solution.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 8:40:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests 4000+ and counting - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 8:36:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests then it must pain you to learn we have over 600 900 mhz customers :) - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association. We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL. We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O. This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary...
All Hail Jay! Or J. Actually K. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... Hi, I'm Jay. He's Jay. In fact, most of us are Jays How are you? - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I ran into a guy at WISPAmerica whose name was Patrick Lear. He said everyone pretty much looked at him funny when he introduced himself. On Mar 2, 2015 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, we don’t hear much from him... From: Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; patrick.le...@telrad.com Subject: [AFMUG] hello patrick leary... I've sent you several off list messages inquiring about your product over the last 2 weeks and i've received no response. I've seen you post to the lists though so i thought i'd try to contact you here. Please contact me because i would like to get a quote from you. sean at zirkel dot us is the best address. Best regards, Sean Heskett Zirkel Wireless
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
Cheesy picture of me? Good luck! ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jaime Fink ja...@mimosa.co To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:43:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool Oh so you were serious about that SFP port? ;) Seriously I'm going to frame that thing and put it in our lobby with a cheesy picture of Mike. FYI the 477 tool is working fine, just needs the proper spreadsheet rows included. Just use the in app chat to ask for help instantly, or shoot us an email at email at supp...@mimosa.co if you're running into problems importing. Cheers, Jaime Fink CPO Co-Founder Mimosa On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:23 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: ducks I think their tool was missing an SFP port /ducks blockquote - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool Did anyone let Mimosa know their tool wasn't working as expected? They've shown to be very responsive to me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:00:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I did not. I ended up going back through and editing the output of the tool to the FCC's specifications. Fairly painstaking, and for a larger network probably impractical. On Monday, March 2, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: blockquote Did you find an alternate tool? Adam From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain
I like that!
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
I get criticized sometimes because I refuse to use 1 or 10 when grading
something on a scale of 1 to 10. I tend to stick with 2 through 8, because
that gives me options.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 11:59 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:
Note the word often, as opposed to all or always. I try not to do
absolutesalmost never :)
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Jason McKemie
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:
I think it's pretty dangerous to group everyone together like that. I
certainly don't have that view.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Patrick Leary
patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd just say Americans often have a definition of progress not shared
by many in the world. Our definition is largely perpetual growth. Another
name for that is cancer.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
The widow almost certainly got above fair market value. But you
can’t put a value on the intangible value of a family home.
Again, the 5th amendment of the US constitution has it right in there.
The good of the many overrides the good of the few.
*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
*Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 2:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] emminient domain
and i live in a town that literally took a widow's property in order
to build a new plant / factory several years ago. yes, it was horrible,
and it was done by the local economic development board' with the support
of the county commissioners...but i failed to see how that was for the
public use.
of course if the woman had agreed to the price : /
horrible horrible storybut i'm sure that new plant / factory is
employing quite a few people.
http://www.cullmantimes.com/archives/eminent-domain-on-agenda/article_3c30de17-6ed1-5a3b-ac21-8d4b2f1f4b63.html
http://www.cullmantimes.com/community/rally-critical-of-city-leaders-actions/article_56b67d35-360f-5c99-aa09-1a9aefdbd574.html
- Original Message -
*From:* Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:37 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link
The 5th Amendment just established just compensation for eminent
domain. It leaves it to the states to define what public use is. And the
landowner still always has the right to argue their point that it is not
going to be used for public use. Luckily, I live in a state that puts the
onus on the condemning authority to prove the taking is definitely needed
for public use.
On Feb 28, 2015 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
The 5th amendment of the US constitution took that from you many
years ago.
From: Trevor Bough
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link
As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should
absolutely have the right to say what is or is not on my property. Working
in the utility industry, I still find that idea completely terrifying.
Electric utilities typically require at least 30' of dedicated ROW. Gas and
water utilities typically require at least 20' of dedicated ROW. Would you
like to be required to give up 70' of your front yard without any say? You
still get to mow it and maintain it, but if the utility feels the shrub you
planted will interfere with them operating their line, they have the right
to come destroy it. I would love to have dedicated easements everywhere,
but that is the reason there is dedicated public ROW everywhere. Honestly
people would be much better off dedicating 20' to a utility easement when
they record the legal description of their property. Virtually all
utilities can fit into a single 20' easement, especially if several go
aerial, they just don't like to. In my opinion, eminent domain should be a
difficult process with a requirement on the condemning authority to prove
need and history of good faith negotiations. Just my 2 cents (probably
closer to $0.10 now).
On Feb 28, 2015 10:48 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Tangent...
I understand property rights and all, but I'd like to see automatic
approval for all ROW requests by qualified entities.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:56:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link
Apparently Missourians fight to protect their property rights more
vigorously because, here anyway, it is a lengthy and expensive process.
Landowners in MO can also be awarded legal fees if the condemning authority
drops or loses the case of eminent domain, so it is definitely not a, This
guy is being difficult, we'll show him. fix-all.
Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs
Which model Josh? We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the router on. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a free roku (basic model, 720p). It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our customers a superior impression of us as an ISP. We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from another provider and install the roku. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that are causing the rest of you support calls? Or just me? Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems. My impression is buggy apps or updates that break stuff. But of course everyone tells the customer it's their Internet. I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that should affect everything, not just one app. I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.
Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs
It's a bit easier to say that Amazon Fire TV HD or Amazon Fire TV Stick (Both are equal in streaming ability to the Roku and Roku stick BTW.) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 11:23 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Interesting approach. I have been wondering if the Rokus are more reliable than the hodgepodge of devices that customers buy for another reason and then use to stream video. Sounds like you give them a big thumbs up. It's another device that customers can't pronounce though. I've had customers tell me they have a Rock-You or a Ruko. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a free roku (basic model, 720p). It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our customers a superior impression of us as an ISP. We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from another provider and install the roku. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that are causing the rest of you support calls? Or just me? Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems. My impression is buggy apps or updates that break stuff. But of course everyone tells the customer it's their Internet. I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that should affect everything, not just one app. I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.
Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain
I've never liked rating stuff 1 or 10... how can you know whether anything
can be better or worse until it is? besides, no matter how bad something
is, it can always be made worse.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
I get criticized sometimes because I refuse to use 1 or 10 when grading
something on a scale of 1 to 10. I tend to stick with 2 through 8, because
that gives me options.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 11:59 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:
Note the word often, as opposed to all or always. I try not to do
absolutesalmost never :)
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Jason McKemie
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:
I think it's pretty dangerous to group everyone together like that. I
certainly don't have that view.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Patrick Leary
patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd just say Americans often have a definition of progress not shared
by many in the world. Our definition is largely perpetual growth. Another
name for that is cancer.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
The widow almost certainly got above fair market value. But you
can’t put a value on the intangible value of a family home.
Again, the 5th amendment of the US constitution has it right in there.
The good of the many overrides the good of the few.
*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
*Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 2:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] emminient domain
and i live in a town that literally took a widow's property in order
to build a new plant / factory several years ago. yes, it was horrible,
and it was done by the local economic development board' with the support
of the county commissioners...but i failed to see how that was for the
public use.
of course if the woman had agreed to the price : /
horrible horrible storybut i'm sure that new plant / factory is
employing quite a few people.
http://www.cullmantimes.com/archives/eminent-domain-on-agenda/article_3c30de17-6ed1-5a3b-ac21-8d4b2f1f4b63.html
http://www.cullmantimes.com/community/rally-critical-of-city-leaders-actions/article_56b67d35-360f-5c99-aa09-1a9aefdbd574.html
- Original Message -
*From:* Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:37 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link
The 5th Amendment just established just compensation for eminent
domain. It leaves it to the states to define what public use is. And the
landowner still always has the right to argue their point that it is not
going to be used for public use. Luckily, I live in a state that puts the
onus on the condemning authority to prove the taking is definitely needed
for public use.
On Feb 28, 2015 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
The 5th amendment of the US constitution took that from you many
years ago.
From: Trevor Bough
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link
As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should
absolutely have the right to say what is or is not on my property. Working
in the utility industry, I still find that idea completely terrifying.
Electric utilities typically require at least 30' of dedicated ROW. Gas and
water utilities typically require at least 20' of dedicated ROW. Would you
like to be required to give up 70' of your front yard without any say? You
still get to mow it and maintain it, but if the utility feels the shrub you
planted will interfere with them operating their line, they have the right
to come destroy it. I would love to have dedicated easements everywhere,
but that is the reason there is dedicated public ROW everywhere. Honestly
people would be much better off dedicating 20' to a utility easement when
they record the legal description of their property. Virtually all
utilities can fit into a single 20' easement, especially if several go
aerial, they just don't like to. In my opinion, eminent domain should be a
difficult process with a requirement on the condemning authority to prove
need and history of good faith negotiations. Just my 2 cents (probably
closer to $0.10 now).
On Feb 28, 2015 10:48 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Tangent...
I understand property rights and all, but I'd like to see automatic
approval for all ROW requests by qualified entities.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:56:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link
Apparently Missourians fight to protect their property rights more
vigorously because, here anyway, it is a lengthy and expensive process.
Landowners in MO can also be awarded legal fees if the condemning
Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs
Roku LT, and now that it's EOL, the streaming stick. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 11:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Which model Josh? We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the router on. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a free roku (basic model, 720p). It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our customers a superior impression of us as an ISP. We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from another provider and install the roku. -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that are causing the rest of you support calls? Or just me? Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems. My impression is buggy apps or updates that break stuff. But of course everyone tells the customer it's their Internet. I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that should affect everything, not just one app. I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux basic versus parasitic?
Yes, there are issues I'm seeing with AutoSync on all bands with
13.2/13.2.1. But 3GHz is... different, and I don't know why. I have a
couple APs on a SyncInjector and some single APs on parasitic pipes. I
thought it was just the SyncInjector or something else at the site until
I started seeing the same problems on the parasitics after just a few
days of install at new sites. They all have the on-board GPS disabled
too. Random LBT hits, the APs show inSync and outSync counts but no
lost/acquired timing messages in the event log, and the SyncInjector
says nothing happened, SMs going crazy losing session, APs reporting SMs
out of range when things go nuts and I have to reboot the AP(s).
AutoSync+FreeRun get stuck in FreeRun. Something in the FPGA code or
some other logic screwed up. I have no idea, so I hope Cambium can
figure it out.
On 3/2/2015 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
Not this one. This one is running a pair of PMP450s in 5 GHz.
We're putting up a pair of PMP450s soon on different POPs; one will go
into a syncinjector, the other will be a CTM.
Is there some issue that you're seeing on the 3GHz varaiety?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 10:06 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:
Doesn't matter. The RJ45's are just pass-thru. The new universal
pipes pull power from two pins, so it can be used with either
PMP100/450 or 430 APs. But I always have the guys put the jumper out
to the radio into the center RJ45 and the cable from the injector to
the RJ45 with the LEDs, just as standard practice, not that it matters.
I do have a question for you about this though.. is this SyncInjector
running 3GHz 450 APs?
On 3/2/2015 11:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Thanks George!
i take it from the description that this boogers up the
power/outputs such that (ether?) RJ45 on the parasitic can be used
to connect to the syncinjector? One of the RJ45s has lights, and
the other is just a vanilla shielded RJ45 (I'm looking at a rev
H1). So I can just build this little jumper for between the 6p6c
and the adjacent RJ45, then use the outer RJ45 to connect to the
syncinjector?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 9:44 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:
Yes.
http://manuals.packetflux.com/index.php?page=using-a-syncpipe-parasitic-with-a-syncinjector
On 3/2/2015 11:25 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
We have a syncpipe basic that we think is starting to act up. It
seems to lose sync about once every day or two for about 1 second.
It's starting to raise havoc with long-lasting client sessions
through the affected APs.
We only have a couple of syncpipe parasitics in stock; can one of
these be swapped in place of a basic to run a sync injector?
Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain
The widow almost certainly got above fair market value. But you can’t put a value on the intangible value of a family home. Again, the 5th amendment of the US constitution has it right in there. The good of the many overrides the good of the few. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] emminient domain and i live in a town that literally took a widow's property in order to build a new plant / factory several years ago. yes, it was horrible, and it was done by the local economic development board' with the support of the county commissioners...but i failed to see how that was for the public use. of course if the woman had agreed to the price : / horrible horrible storybut i'm sure that new plant / factory is employing quite a few people. http://www.cullmantimes.com/archives/eminent-domain-on-agenda/article_3c30de17-6ed1-5a3b-ac21-8d4b2f1f4b63.html http://www.cullmantimes.com/community/rally-critical-of-city-leaders-actions/article_56b67d35-360f-5c99-aa09-1a9aefdbd574.html - Original Message - From: Trevor Bough To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link The 5th Amendment just established just compensation for eminent domain. It leaves it to the states to define what public use is. And the landowner still always has the right to argue their point that it is not going to be used for public use. Luckily, I live in a state that puts the onus on the condemning authority to prove the taking is definitely needed for public use. On Feb 28, 2015 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The 5th amendment of the US constitution took that from you many years ago. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should absolutely have the right to say what is or is not on my property. Working in the utility industry, I still find that idea completely terrifying. Electric utilities typically require at least 30' of dedicated ROW. Gas and water utilities typically require at least 20' of dedicated ROW. Would you like to be required to give up 70' of your front yard without any say? You still get to mow it and maintain it, but if the utility feels the shrub you planted will interfere with them operating their line, they have the right to come destroy it. I would love to have dedicated easements everywhere, but that is the reason there is dedicated public ROW everywhere. Honestly people would be much better off dedicating 20' to a utility easement when they record the legal description of their property. Virtually all utilities can fit into a single 20' easement, especially if several go aerial, they just don't like to. In my opinion, eminent domain should be a difficult process with a requirement on the condemning authority to prove need and history of good faith negotiations. Just my 2 cents (probably closer to $0.10 now). On Feb 28, 2015 10:48 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Tangent... I understand property rights and all, but I'd like to see automatic approval for all ROW requests by qualified entities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:56:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Apparently Missourians fight to protect their property rights more vigorously because, here anyway, it is a lengthy and expensive process. Landowners in MO can also be awarded legal fees if the condemning authority drops or loses the case of eminent domain, so it is definitely not a, This guy is being difficult, we'll show him. fix-all. http://watchdog.org/88546/missouri-landowners-win-in-eminent-domain-test-case/ Looks like it wasn't always the case here though. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have done it several times. In my cases it was pretty much the easy button. Just had to wait for the docket. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link It's not quite that easy... You have to be authorized by the state to be able to use eminent domain and even then it is a very lengthy process (minimum of six months typically) and it has to be for public use, which a utility can qualify as, but even after going to court for six months or more to prove that this is necessary for the public you are still at the mercy of the quart ruling that you are right and now have the luxury of paying the landowner for the access. It's not some magic automatic Easy Button. On Feb 26, 2015 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown
Re: [AFMUG] emminient domain
Paraphasing Mr. Spock so soon? Jaime Solorza On Mar 2, 2015 7:22 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The widow almost certainly got above fair market value. But you can’t put a value on the intangible value of a family home. Again, the 5th amendment of the US constitution has it right in there. The good of the many overrides the good of the few. *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 2:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] emminient domain and i live in a town that literally took a widow's property in order to build a new plant / factory several years ago. yes, it was horrible, and it was done by the local economic development board' with the support of the county commissioners...but i failed to see how that was for the public use. of course if the woman had agreed to the price : / horrible horrible storybut i'm sure that new plant / factory is employing quite a few people. http://www.cullmantimes.com/archives/eminent-domain-on-agenda/article_3c30de17-6ed1-5a3b-ac21-8d4b2f1f4b63.html http://www.cullmantimes.com/community/rally-critical-of-city-leaders-actions/article_56b67d35-360f-5c99-aa09-1a9aefdbd574.html - Original Message - *From:* Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:37 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link The 5th Amendment just established just compensation for eminent domain. It leaves it to the states to define what public use is. And the landowner still always has the right to argue their point that it is not going to be used for public use. Luckily, I live in a state that puts the onus on the condemning authority to prove the taking is definitely needed for public use. On Feb 28, 2015 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The 5th amendment of the US constitution took that from you many years ago. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should absolutely have the right to say what is or is not on my property. Working in the utility industry, I still find that idea completely terrifying. Electric utilities typically require at least 30' of dedicated ROW. Gas and water utilities typically require at least 20' of dedicated ROW. Would you like to be required to give up 70' of your front yard without any say? You still get to mow it and maintain it, but if the utility feels the shrub you planted will interfere with them operating their line, they have the right to come destroy it. I would love to have dedicated easements everywhere, but that is the reason there is dedicated public ROW everywhere. Honestly people would be much better off dedicating 20' to a utility easement when they record the legal description of their property. Virtually all utilities can fit into a single 20' easement, especially if several go aerial, they just don't like to. In my opinion, eminent domain should be a difficult process with a requirement on the condemning authority to prove need and history of good faith negotiations. Just my 2 cents (probably closer to $0.10 now). On Feb 28, 2015 10:48 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Tangent... I understand property rights and all, but I'd like to see automatic approval for all ROW requests by qualified entities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:56:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Apparently Missourians fight to protect their property rights more vigorously because, here anyway, it is a lengthy and expensive process. Landowners in MO can also be awarded legal fees if the condemning authority drops or loses the case of eminent domain, so it is definitely not a, This guy is being difficult, we'll show him. fix-all. http://watchdog.org/88546/missouri-landowners-win-in-eminent-domain-test-case/ Looks like it wasn't always the case here though. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have done it several times. In my cases it was pretty much the easy button. Just had to wait for the docket. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link It's not quite that easy... You have to be authorized by the state to be able to use eminent domain and even then it is a very lengthy process (minimum of six months typically) and it has to be for public use, which a utility can qualify as, but even after going to court for six months or more to prove that this is necessary for the public you are still at the mercy of the quart ruling that you are right and now have the luxury of paying
Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info
sounds like you're in Alabama. :) - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info It is backwards. When we moved around 15 years ago we couldn’t get phone service because no one could give us our E911 address. Apparently the only person in the county that could tell us what our address was went on a two month long vacation. That should tell you the level of professionalism we’re dealing with here. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info You're referring to geolocating someone? You can likely thank your local counties for having backwards addressing systems if they have an addressing system at all. I don't know how anything but WISPMon does it, but you punch in the address, but then can manually relocate the location. You'd need to do that for tracking your customers in pretty much any other fashion. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:10:41 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info I know this wasn’t directed at me, but the USGS data given to Google, Yahoo, etc, is wrong for a huge portion of my coverage area if not all of it. I’m not sure if that is the case elsewhere, but in west central Alabama using GPS or Google maps is a joke. I visually find the home on Google maps and then look at the link on Terrain Nav Pro. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Your billing system doesn't know where all of your towers are, what they are, etc.? It doesn't have customer qualification capabilities? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:27:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Why would you use your billing system to report your coverage area to the FCC? Surely you don't have customers at every possible location that you can provide service to?!?! We use towercoverage.com because it reports all the locations that we can provide service to. 2 cents -Sean On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com wrote: The hardest part for the Fixed Broadband Deployment portion of the filing is understanding what the FCC wants and then manipulating the data to get it into the format the Commission requires after you find where to find the Census information. (The Census information by state is all on http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/census-blocks-state) You just have to massage it to make it fit. I use Platypus and Tucows has a really nice easy button push to generate the Fixed Broadband Subscription information. The subscription can be done manually if you can find the census maps. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: http://data.fcc.gov/api/block/find?latitude=32.515986longitude=87.834804showall=true Still get an error, xml error rather than 404 this time. Why can't I figure this crap out? Epically frustrating. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Long and lat should be decimal for one Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 26, 2015 11:12 AM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: What am I doing wrong? http://data.fcc.gov/api/block/2010/find?latitude=32%C2%B030%2757.55%22Nlongitude=87%C2%B050%275.30%22Wshowall=true - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Use the FCC API. You send coordinates and get tracts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 26, 2015 11:03 AM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: I've been spinning my wheels for days now, 477 help line is typical government/Microsoft answer, technically correct, practically useless. How do I get the block/tract info? I've got maps, I've got programs, been through
Re: [AFMUG] WANTED!!!
you noticed that too huh ? (about painting night...) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WANTED!!! My list of food to eat in England: 1) Indian 2) Hard Rock Café Supposedly the first Hard Rock Café was started by two American expats who missed real food. There was one next to the WISPAmerica venue and while eating there, I learned from Mike Falaschi that Hard Rock International is now owned by the Seminole tribe. You don’t get more American than that! (I thought the food was quite good. It was “painting night” though which was ... different. The female:male ratio was about 10:1. I think I’m going to tell my son to get off the dating sites and find a place that has a painting night.) From: Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WANTED!!! I like real North Atlantic Cod Fish (10 hours off the boat) and Chips served in a newspaper. I like mushy peas. And pasties and Cornish clotted cream on scones. You gotta know what to ask for in England. The Indian curry places are as numerous as American Chinese places too. And of course everything my daughter cooks when I visit Cornwall. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 3:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WANTED!!! I’ve only been to Israel once, long time ago, but the food was excellent. Didn’t see hummus, falafel or matzo once. Never left Tel Aviv though. I was there to kick the tires at Orckit Communications, looks like they still exist under the same management, some ex military communications guys. Israel has quite the military-industrial complex, quite the revolving door between government and private enterprise in the communications space. At the time I was told the best and brightest could go to university and then fulfill their universal service by working as engineers for the government, then move into industry. Somehow I suspect the image of both Mexican and Middle Eastern food here in the US is pretty much a cartoon stereotype. I will say however that I’ve been to England and the food there is just as bad as its reputation. I will also say the worst food on my trip to Israel was the Air France airplane food, which seemed strange given the Mike Royko quote that the French had many faults but they do know how to whip up a plate of grub. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WANTED!!! Tacos with hummous and matzo balls in them. On 2/27/15 10:03 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: Mr Hohhof, on that point I did not stutter. We do have a support center in Mexico City. No problem with PR either. On Feb 27, 2015 3:54 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: And when you say “anywhere in North America”, that includes lots of countries. Not just US Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_countries_by_population How about Mexico or Cuba? Puerto Rico? From: Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 3:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WANTED!!! This Irish Catholic is not sure of that, but I can tell you that after working for 3 different Israeli companies, they take better care of their employees than any other employers I've had the experience working for. If you value being left alone and treated with respect, and where family ALWAYS comes first, you could do much worse. On Feb 27, 2015 3:32 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: If I sign up to work for a .IL company do we get a monthly allowance for falafel and hummous? On 2/27/15 9:19 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: Servant-hearted, ambitious, smart, knowledge engineer with excellent RF skills, but also LINUX. Must be willing to travel, but able to function in a self-directed way from your home office. Must work well with a small dedicated crackerjack team. Good humor is valued. The individual would be reporting to one of the very best engineers in the business. You can live anywhere in North America to be eligible for this position. Pay is respectable and our engineers participate in the upside. MUST BE PASSIONATE ABOUT WIRELESS BROADBAND. This is a chance to work with one of the hottest companies in the space, with one of the best teams in the business. If you are interested, or know someone who may be a good fit, please send me a note off list directly to patrick.le...@telrad.com.
[AFMUG] emminient domain
and i live in a town that literally took a widow's property in order to build a new plant / factory several years ago. yes, it was horrible, and it was done by the local economic development board' with the support of the county commissioners...but i failed to see how that was for the public use. of course if the woman had agreed to the price : / horrible horrible storybut i'm sure that new plant / factory is employing quite a few people. http://www.cullmantimes.com/archives/eminent-domain-on-agenda/article_3c30de17-6ed1-5a3b-ac21-8d4b2f1f4b63.html http://www.cullmantimes.com/community/rally-critical-of-city-leaders-actions/article_56b67d35-360f-5c99-aa09-1a9aefdbd574.html - Original Message - From: Trevor Bough To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link The 5th Amendment just established just compensation for eminent domain. It leaves it to the states to define what public use is. And the landowner still always has the right to argue their point that it is not going to be used for public use. Luckily, I live in a state that puts the onus on the condemning authority to prove the taking is definitely needed for public use. On Feb 28, 2015 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The 5th amendment of the US constitution took that from you many years ago. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link As a property owner, I find that idea completely terrifying. I should absolutely have the right to say what is or is not on my property. Working in the utility industry, I still find that idea completely terrifying. Electric utilities typically require at least 30' of dedicated ROW. Gas and water utilities typically require at least 20' of dedicated ROW. Would you like to be required to give up 70' of your front yard without any say? You still get to mow it and maintain it, but if the utility feels the shrub you planted will interfere with them operating their line, they have the right to come destroy it. I would love to have dedicated easements everywhere, but that is the reason there is dedicated public ROW everywhere. Honestly people would be much better off dedicating 20' to a utility easement when they record the legal description of their property. Virtually all utilities can fit into a single 20' easement, especially if several go aerial, they just don't like to. In my opinion, eminent domain should be a difficult process with a requirement on the condemning authority to prove need and history of good faith negotiations. Just my 2 cents (probably closer to $0.10 now). On Feb 28, 2015 10:48 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Tangent... I understand property rights and all, but I'd like to see automatic approval for all ROW requests by qualified entities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:56:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link Apparently Missourians fight to protect their property rights more vigorously because, here anyway, it is a lengthy and expensive process. Landowners in MO can also be awarded legal fees if the condemning authority drops or loses the case of eminent domain, so it is definitely not a, This guy is being difficult, we'll show him. fix-all. http://watchdog.org/88546/missouri-landowners-win-in-eminent-domain-test-case/ Looks like it wasn't always the case here though. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have done it several times. In my cases it was pretty much the easy button. Just had to wait for the docket. From: Trevor Bough Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link It's not quite that easy... You have to be authorized by the state to be able to use eminent domain and even then it is a very lengthy process (minimum of six months typically) and it has to be for public use, which a utility can qualify as, but even after going to court for six months or more to prove that this is necessary for the public you are still at the mercy of the quart ruling that you are right and now have the luxury of paying the landowner for the access. It's not some magic automatic Easy Button. On Feb 26, 2015 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If you need to cross property with your pole line or underground line, you can do so under the right of eminent domain. Landowner has no say so. You go to court, the judge bangs the gavel, and voila, instant ROW. However at that point in time the tables turn somewhat in the favor of the landowner as you have to compensate them for what
Re: [AFMUG] Rory, know anything about this? Vandals cut into a Fiber line in Phoenix
and all the news reports showing terrorists EXACTLY how to take us down. - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rory, know anything about this? Vandals cut into a Fiber line in Phoenix What’s funny is all the articles about cyber terrorism. I’m not saying we don’t have vulnerabilities but this wasn’t that kind of case. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:30 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rory, know anything about this? Vandals cut into a Fiber line in Phoenix Or disgruntled employee. That happened in Alamogordo about 8 yrs ago. Got busted second time he did it. Jaime Solorza On Feb 28, 2015 7:47 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: It was deliberate. Probably a hacksaw or reciprocating saw. They are still investigating. In reality, some moron thought he could steel copper by digging up bunches of cable. I don’t think it was anything more than that. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 7:42 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rory, know anything about this? Vandals cut into a Fiber line in Phoenix Round here it is usually a farmer or highway contruction crew with tractor Jaime Solorza On Feb 28, 2015 1:44 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/02/27/2219257/vandalism-in-arizona-shuts-down-internet-and-phone-service -- -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?
Have you looked at transport TJ? I assume you have... :) - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig? You can get a gig eamis for like 8k but I was trying to see if anyone had luck maybe using cogent or someone cheap with a att loop On Feb 27, 2015 5:21 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Esplain how will you get it. IIRC, on OPT-E-MAN (which you can't order new anywhere now) or ASE, the most you can get on a single PTP EVC is about 600Mbps. If you're buying bandwidth from ATT, it will be their MIS which will be a PTP EVC. The only way you can get 1Gbps is by having a multi-point network, but no single node will get 1Gbps. This is what I was always told. Unless something has changed recently... On 2/27/2015 6:11 PM, TJ Trout wrote: What's the best price you guys have seen for a full gig with att? Thanks in advance
Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info
see, that is silly to me. there are a lot of areas we COULD offer service. I mean, the whole state practically... all it takes is a lease, equipment, bandwidth, and customers. - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Note Josh, The information provided below on the Fixed Broadband Deployment is NOT ACCURATE. This is exactly why we get a bad rep sometimes. The Fixed Broadband Deployment data is based on census blocks that you OFFER service in, not provide, so you are submitting inaccurate information. Or rather, smaller than offered deployment information, so you will show less areas served than you actually may. In all reality, the FCC wants to know WHERE you cover and where you COULD offer service. Where you have service deployed is what the fixed broadband subscriber data is. You said integration with TowerCoverage, make sure you have purchased the Deployment data so that you get a updated Fixed Broadband Deployment CSV. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info We didn't use powercode for our 477 this year, we used a third party. Right now though, I'm staring at it, if you go to Reports - Data Export - FCC Form 477 There is a data export tool. Reports Generate FCC Form 477 This report will generate two files to assist in filing FCC Form 477. The Fixed Broadband Deployment Data file will contain information about services offered by census block. The Fixed Broadband Subscription Data file will contain information about quantity of services provided by census tract. The deployment report will only report based on you having at least one active customer in a specific census block. A customer will only be included in this report if they have a Monthly Internet service on their account. For more details about this report, please visit the FCC Form 477 site. The census block/tract data for the customer will be calculated from their physical address. If this data is incorrect or incomplete, the form will be incorrect or incomplete! This product uses the FCC Data API but is not endorsed or certified by the FCC. Between this and the integration with towercoverage that we have, what exactly are we missing? --Josh ReynoldsCIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.comOn 02/27/2015 05:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Fixed Broadband Deployment – Where do you cover in Census Blocks and what max speeds do you offer in each block Fixed Broadband Subscribers -- How man customers do you have in each census tract and what max speeds do they get. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rankin Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 8:29 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info Pardon me if I have misunderstood your question and your point, but; as I understand the filing requirements that the FCC representative told me the Commission wants to know #1 the census tracts that you can serve, which comes from xml maps or simple text files. And #2 the geocode information of your customers installation. 2 different reports. On Feb 27, 2015 12:27 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Why would you use your billing system to report your coverage area to the FCC? Surely you don't have customers at every possible location that you can provide service to?!?! We use towercoverage.com because it reports all the locations that we can provide service to. 2 cents -Sean On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com wrote: The hardest part for the Fixed Broadband Deployment portion of the filing is understanding what the FCC wants and then manipulating the data to get it into the format the Commission requires after you find where to find the Census information. (The Census information by state is all on http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/census-blocks-state) You just have to massage it to make it fit. I use Platypus and Tucows has a really nice easy button push to generate the Fixed Broadband Subscription information. The subscription can be done manually if you can find the census maps. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: http://data.fcc.gov/api/block/find?latitude=32.515986longitude=87.834804showall=true Still get an error, xml error rather than 404 this time. Why can't I figure
Re: [AFMUG] PBX gone crazy? PBX ddos?
This is neat… too bad we cannot get the IPChains logic and put it in our own transparent bridge in VMWare. Eric Rogers www.pdsconnect.me (317) 831-3000 x200 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 1:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PBX gone crazy? PBX ddos? This is why you want to run your PBX under hard firewall they do make one small firewall just for pbx: http://www.pikatechnologies.com/english/view.asp?x=1294 Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 1:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PBX gone crazy? PBX ddos? Importance: Low We have been seeing alot of PBX malicious activity lately, Panasonic in particular. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:02 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Yes, they must be hacked. Although no calls were placed through the trunk, weird. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: TJ After looking up that dst ip: https://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.poneytelcom.eu%2Fie=utf-8oe=utf-8 Why would your customer using ip’s to London for sip calling unless there pbx got hacked. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PBX gone crazy? PBX ddos? TJ What kind of ip pbx are they using? Also are they doing the HD calling because some IP pbxs allow you to add that G.711 code in it. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PBX gone crazy? PBX ddos? I have a customer with a IP PBX that all of the sudden is using 100% of their available upload and download capacity, when I torch them it shows as 4 sip connections but using way more bandwidth than a regular sip connection? http://s7.postimg.org/qy3n03ljv/Untitled.png Anyone ever seen something like this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] WANTED!!!
My wife is on this list, often in the IDF, owns the MDF and is also attractive. I guess I win? :P ryan On Feb 27, 2015, at 14:26, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: They're actually quite attractive. ( I'm very glad my wife doesn't read this list :P ) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/27/2015 01:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Free Women of the IDF photo calendar with every Ceragon IP-20 link purchased! On 2/27/15 10:19 PM, Keefe John wrote: I wonder if mossad has a back door in the product. On 2/27/2015 4:17 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: Care to layer in any more stereotypes? On Feb 27, 2015 4:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: Tacos with hummous and matzo balls in them. On 2/27/15 10:03 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: Mr Hohhof, on that point I did not stutter. We do have a support center in Mexico City. No problem with PR either. On Feb 27, 2015 3:54 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: And when you say “anywhere in North America”, that includes lots of countries. Not just US Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_countries_by_population How about Mexico or Cuba? Puerto Rico? From: Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 3:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WANTED!!! This Irish Catholic is not sure of that, but I can tell you that after working for 3 different Israeli companies, they take better care of their employees than any other employers I've had the experience working for. If you value being left alone and treated with respect, and where family ALWAYS comes first, you could do much worse. On Feb 27, 2015 3:32 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: If I sign up to work for a .IL company do we get a monthly allowance for falafel and hummous? On 2/27/15 9:19 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: Servant-hearted, ambitious, smart, knowledge engineer with excellent RF skills, but also LINUX. Must be willing to travel, but able to function in a self-directed way from your home office. Must work well with a small dedicated crackerjack team. Good humor is valued. The individual would be reporting to one of the very best engineers in the business. You can live anywhere in North America to be eligible for this position. Pay is respectable and our engineers participate in the upside. MUST BE PASSIONATE ABOUT WIRELESS BROADBAND. This is a chance to work with one of the hottest companies in the space, with one of the best teams in the business. If you are interested, or know someone who may be a good fit, please send me a note off list directly to patrick.le...@telrad.com.
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
UBNT 900 works fairly well for PtP links, as long as you don't have anything else in 900 in the area, but for PtMP, you're better off with Canopy in my opinion. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: We have a couple towers with UBNT 900s on them (sectors) and very poor results overall compared to the Canopy 900s. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:55 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
Did you find an alternate tool? Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
How much is due to the better hardware, and how much is due to the
shielding? I guess what I wonder is the apples versus oranges argument.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 8:26 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant
performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles.
Jerry
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your
Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world
applications?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We have had odd issues with the titaniums, I dont know if there has been a redesign on them since we purchased them a while ago, but they just seem to crap out in poor conditions much easier than the standard rockets. The backlobes on unshielded ubnt radios saved the day for us one time when we had a lightning strike, we started at the remote site that had a ptp 300 integrated struck. All we had for spares was connectorized and the tower would not allow for a dish. The site is low use so we decided to throw up a nanobridge. It happenned the site at the other end had a ubnt backhaul facing the other direction. We were able to bring the link up and peak it to that backhaul, which was nice because we didnt have to scramble up to that location to swap out radios, or return to this site to peak it out. We have since shielded that backhaul On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
Working great. No GPS of course but immediately saw throughput improvements. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL _ From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz mailto:je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
The new ones with XW hardware are working great? How long have they been in service? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:35:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Working great. No GPS of course but immediately saw throughput improvements. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
What’s funny is that I’ve got the original Titaniums still up over 2 years with no problems and no downtime. They were still on 5.3 but I’ll be upgrading them tomorrow. However, I don’t see any reason to pay the difference between the Rocket 5M and the Titanium with 20MHz channels, especially if you have RF Armor shields. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We have two up. I can say they are better than the Rockets they replaced but can’t speak to failure rates. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:48 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We see a very high failure rate on Titanium radios...even the new XW version. On 3/2/2015 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The new ones with XW hardware are working great? How long have they been in service? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bzmailto:je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:35:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Working great. No GPS of course but immediately saw throughput improvements. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:29 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bzmailto:je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
Their fans get hard ons over them. Xirrus, Ruckus, UniFi. That's all you really need. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:55:56 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? I see HP bought them. Never heard of them. I would have thought that if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or other.
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
Did anyone let Mimosa know their tool wasn't working as expected? They've shown to be very responsive to me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:00:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I did not. I ended up going back through and editing the output of the tool to the FCC's specifications. Fairly painstaking, and for a larger network probably impractical. On Monday, March 2, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Did you find an alternate tool? Adam From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
Nope. The towers only broadcast. They are not two-way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:16:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
I would ask Peter Kranz about that. he has been fairly involved with
UBNT trials and tribulations.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 8:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and
the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
*From: *Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant
performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles.
Jerry
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your
Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world
applications?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
[AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I've seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
I’ll hit you offlist Jason, we had a ton of people go through and use it back in the fall successfully. Cheers, Jaime Fink • Mimosahttp://www.mimosa.co • CPO Co-Founder 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.netmailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: Did anyone let Mimosa know their tool wasn't working as expected? They've shown to be very responsive to me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.comhttp://www.ics-il.com/ [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.commailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:00:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I did not. I ended up going back through and editing the output of the tool to the FCC's specifications. Fairly painstaking, and for a larger network probably impractical. On Monday, March 2, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.commailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Did you find an alternate tool? Adam From: Af [mailto:mailto:af-boun...@afmug.comaf-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.commailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
Yes, the neat little RF elements case... are they not available now? I've had a couple sitting here for months. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: RF armor shield you mean? Unless you've gotten a hold of those neat RF elements Rocket case. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 2, 2015 12:27 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see a lot of point in bothering with the Titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets are XW hardware now, so you get the faster processor. if you want the better shielding just get those RF elements shields and it will still be cheaper than a Ti or if you're using RF armor, it's irrelevant anyway. If you need more than 100M ethernet, get a real backhaul. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: What’s funny is that I’ve got the original Titaniums still up over 2 years with no problems and no downtime. They were still on 5.3 but I’ll be upgrading them tomorrow. However, I don’t see any reason to pay the difference between the Rocket 5M and the Titanium with 20MHz channels, especially if you have RF Armor shields. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:52 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We have two up. I can say they are better than the Rockets they replaced but can’t speak to failure rates. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Keefe John *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 8:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We see a very high failure rate on Titanium radios...even the new XW version. On 3/2/2015 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The new ones with XW hardware are working great? How long have they been in service? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz je...@richardson.bz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 10:35:23 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Working great. No GPS of course but immediately saw throughput improvements. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 8:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
For Rockets there are two different shields. One is the Rock Shield
which shields the original Rocket case. Second there is the shield that
bolts onto some of the parabolic dishes that provides slightly better
sidelobe performance on the dishes themselves.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 9:38 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I think he means exactly what he said being that he later addressed RF
Armor directly.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
*From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 11:36:54 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
RF armor shield you mean? Unless you've gotten a hold of those neat
RF elements Rocket case.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 2, 2015 12:27 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't see a lot of point in bothering with the Titanium
Rockets... the standard Rockets are XW hardware now, so you get
the faster processor. if you want the better shielding just get
those RF elements shields and it will still be cheaper than a Ti
or if you're using RF armor, it's irrelevant anyway. If you need
more than 100M ethernet, get a real backhaul.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Rory Conaway
r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
What’s funny is that I’ve got the original Titaniums still up
over 2 years with no problems and no downtime. They were
still on 5.3 but I’ll be upgrading them tomorrow. However, I
don’t see any reason to pay the difference between the Rocket
5M and the Titanium with 20MHz channels, especially if you
have RF Armor shields.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson
*Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We have two up. I can say they are better than the Rockets
they replaced but can’t speak to failure rates.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Keefe John
*Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 8:48 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We see a very high failure rate on Titanium radios...even the
new XW version.
On 3/2/2015 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
The new ones with XW hardware are working great? How long
have they been in service?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
*From: *Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz
mailto:je...@richardson.bz
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 10:35:23 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
Working great. No GPS of course but immediately saw
throughput improvements.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 8:29 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled
past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
*From: *Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz
mailto:je...@richardson.bz
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We
see instant performance improvements particularly with
links over 12 miles.
Jerry
*From:*Af
Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
We know the (former?) CEO and at least one of their engineers. AFAIK,
they sell an enterprise WiFi management system. Haven't kept track of
them other than that.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 8:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I see HP bought them. Never heard of them. I would have thought that
if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at
some time or other.
[AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
I see HP bought them. Never heard of them. I would have thought that if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or other.
Re: [AFMUG] Metering PDUs
I have reached out to Geist, Baytech, WTI and ServerTech. Well see what they come back with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:20:10 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Metering PDUs Suggestions for metering 0U PDUs? 120V 20A I found some for not much over $100, but found they weren't actually metered over the network, just locally and only for the entire PDU, not per outlet. Recommendations other than a bunch of mPowers? Actually, I think a rack mounted version was one of the first beta change requests I heard. That's gone as far as all of the other requests I've made. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
Five gig at the macro, outdoor, tower level? I had only heard of it in small cells. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:03:05 AM Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
Chuck, Aruba was one of the original switched Wi-Fi vendors, like Airespace that Cisco bought around 2005. Aruba now is part of HP, who had been really late in the game (even later than Juniper) in broadening its in-house expertise to include Wi-Fi. Patrick On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I see HP bought them. Never heard of them. I would have thought that if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or other. -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP's spectrum. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I've seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
Well, anything before the most recent generation are pure garbage. AFAIK, the
jury is still out on the newest ones.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:33:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
I would ask Peter Kranz about that. he has been fairly involved with UBNT
trials and tribulations.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/2/2015 8:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook
on the new ones is still uncertain.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant
performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles.
Jerry
From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket
radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We see a very high failure rate on Titanium radios...even the new XW version. On 3/2/2015 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The new ones with XW hardware are working great? How long have they been in service? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 10:35:23 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Working great. No GPS of course but immediately saw throughput improvements. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2015 8:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz mailto:je...@richardson.bz *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
IIRC, the original Tis went like a raped ape... just fell on their faces a couple months into service. First it was Ethernet\power issues, then it was Tx chain issues. There might be more issues that I'm unaware of. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:52:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We have two up. I can say they are better than the Rockets they replaced but can’t speak to failure rates. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We see a very high failure rate on Titanium radios...even the new XW version. On 3/2/2015 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The new ones with XW hardware are working great? How long have they been in service? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:35:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Working great. No GPS of course but immediately saw throughput improvements. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields Are the Tis actually working for you? They have a troubled past and the outlook on the new ones is still uncertain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:26:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields We are replacing Rockets with Titanium AP and antennas. We see instant performance improvements particularly with links over 12 miles. Jerry From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
I did not. I ended up going back through and editing the output of the tool to the FCC's specifications. Fairly painstaking, and for a larger network probably impractical. On Monday, March 2, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Did you find an alternate tool? Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 7:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','li...@smarterbroadband.com'); wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
Aruba had the best routing protocols for mesh deployments that I’d seen. There was definitely value in that. They were the only ones that seemed to have done that versus the different limited mesh protocols others had in place. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? Their fans get hard ons over them. Xirrus, Ruckus, UniFi. That's all you really need. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:55:56 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? I see HP bought them. Never heard of them. I would have thought that if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or other.
Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
Remember that R2D2 barrel looking thing that Motorola was trying to launch for mobile mesh? What a bunch of hype. Did anyone ever succeed in good mobile mesh? From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? Aruba had the best routing protocols for mesh deployments that I’d seen. There was definitely value in that. They were the only ones that seemed to have done that versus the different limited mesh protocols others had in place. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? Their fans get hard ons over them. Xirrus, Ruckus, UniFi. That's all you really need. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:55:56 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? I see HP bought them. Never heard of them. I would have thought that if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or other.
Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks?
BelAir did the same thing, but they did it the right way technically, separate radios in every direction. Motorola did it the wrong way at ½ the price and introduced the 1/n problem with a single radio. Tropos had the best mesh mobile solution and it worked great. Aruba has a great mobile solution also up to about 40mph though, just not the cheapest. None of them had any reasonable throughput though over multiple hops, especially with the 1/N issue. When we tested the BelAir, the best we could get through it was about 17Mbps TCP/IP versus SkyPilot at 12Mbps but the BelAir could hop.The biggest problem for all of them is they priced themselves out of the market. The most cost effective solution today is any vendor with a Peplink mobile router in the car with dual radios talking to the cheapest APs you can get up on the poles. It can look ahead and connect before dropping the previous connection. Rocket M2’s with omni’s work pretty well. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? Remember that R2D2 barrel looking thing that Motorola was trying to launch for mobile mesh? What a bunch of hype. Did anyone ever succeed in good mobile mesh? From: Rory Conawaymailto:r...@triadwireless.net Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? Aruba had the best routing protocols for mesh deployments that I’d seen. There was definitely value in that. They were the only ones that seemed to have done that versus the different limited mesh protocols others had in place. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? Their fans get hard ons over them. Xirrus, Ruckus, UniFi. That's all you really need. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 10:55:56 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Aruba Networks? I see HP bought them. Never heard of them. I would have thought that if they were any good this crowd would have been talking about this at some time or other.
Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz..
I dunno... I imagine they will do pretty good in a pissin’ contest. From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. That means can we point our 5ghz backhaul stuff at there towers and make there signal about worthless? If so that would teach cell phone companies not to mess with WISP’s spectrum. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More LTE tradgedy of the commons on 5 GHz.. If systems like this end up rolling out on cell sites across the nation we are going to see some tough times getting clear channels. I’ve seen several proposals now for tower based systems that use very large swaths of 5Ghz as alternative LTE data paths to cell phones with multi-channel BW designed to suck up every free piece of 5Ghz spectrum found. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/t-mobile-alcatel-wifi-and-4g-fight/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
[AFMUG] Photo First: Light Captured as Both Particle and Wave : Discovery News
http://news.discovery.com/tech/photo-first-lights-captured-as-both-particle-and-wave-150302.htm Jaime Solorza
