Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Colin Stanners
If you buy enough product Chuck will send you an autographed copy. On Jul 1, 2015 6:34 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > I'd love one! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jul 1, 2015 7:33 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> We

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Yesfor our wall Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: Subject: [AFMUG]Fwd: Finally done!😄 Date: Wed, Jul 1, 2015 6:34 PM I'd love one! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy,

Re: [AFMUG] Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Forgot all about that joke!!! It's a welcome return. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 1, 2015 9:21 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > What? No loin cloth? > > bp > > > > On 7/1/2015 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > *I

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
You are on the list. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:24 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄 Hey, I want one too! On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'd love one! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayn

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Hey, I want one too! On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I'd love one! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jul 1, 2015 7:33 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> We have lots of fun stuff now. >> Do you w

Re: [AFMUG] Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Bill Prince
What? No loin cloth? bp On 7/1/2015 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Finally done!😄 *I finally got the catalog done!* View this email in your browser The quick way to load test a new pole mount!

Re: [AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
That is why horizontal directional drilling (HDD) is the only way to go. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ROW A pipeline is a hell of a lot more disruptive than a plow or drill. Around here they can plant over any ROW that's not ro

Re: [AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck Hogg
You're probably talking about the easements. Those are different. Most state and county (for roads) ROW do not allow for any type of encroachment (farming or other) without permit or permission. The state/county ROW is not owned by the home/farmer. Planting in it will not provide for reimbursem

Re: [AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
A pipeline is a hell of a lot more disruptive than a plow or drill. Around here they can plant over any ROW that's not road and the utility reimburses for crop damage. ROW would probably be a lot more expensive if it didn't cover crop damage. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solu

Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8

2015-07-01 Thread Daniel White
I’ll never forget the day I was in Cupertino in one of Apple’s buildings are saw public IP addresses assigned to things like printers. Blew my mind. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:40 PM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Here they aren't. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Matt" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 7:14:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ROW > We're marking pole locations and some of them are in agricultura

Re: [AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck Hogg
They are allowed under the assumption that it could be destroyed. Pipelines typically do not use State/County ROW. They don't ever want to have to move them. They paid $8/ft for a pipeline going in here for easement access on a project next to our fiber build. Homeowners are pissed they can't ge

Re: [AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Matt
> We're marking pole locations and some of them are in agricultural areas. I > will feel like a vandal when I whack down some corn to make a spot for my > stake. Aside from my feelings, am I going to run into any other problems? > Can the farmer come after me for the $10 worth of crop I killed?

Re: [AFMUG] hah - that made my day

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Sex should not include splinters. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] hah - that made my day A bad Polish porno. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] hah - that made my d

Re: [AFMUG] hah - that made my day

2015-07-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
A bad Polish porno. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] hah - that made my day Or the title of a bad porno Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: I don't know. The taming of the wild pole

Re: [AFMUG] hah - that made my day

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Only in Eagle Mountain. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] hah - that made my day I don't know. The taming of the wild pole sounds like something that would be outlawed. It sounds too much like a sex act. Sent from my iPhone O

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd love one! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 1, 2015 7:33 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > We have lots of fun stuff now. > Do you want a hard copy? > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:55 PM > *To:* a

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
We have lots of fun stuff now. Do you want a hard copy? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄 That tower mount list is waaay too big. It fills almost 25% of my screen... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-

Re: [AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Chris Fabien
Laws may vary by state but I know farmers in michigan that have been reimbursed for crop damage due to pipeline work, powerline work etc. May be a goodwill thing and not required. I'd ask at your local grain elevator. They could also provide reasonable value information. On Jul 1, 2015 2:48 PM, "Ad

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Re: private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2015-07-01 at 14:00 +, Glen Waldrop wrote: > Yeah, but the great thing about NAT is that my network isn't public. > > That is my primary argument with IPv6. And NAT provides some level of security? I think you are overestimating the benefit of NAT. Also, with about 5 rules in a rout

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Matt
http://www.mccowntech.com/products.cfm?PID=90&Cat= Some images on page and pdf are broken. > > That tower mount list is waaay too big. It fills almost 25% of my screen... >

Re: [AFMUG] Routers as switches

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
New Linksys = Belkin. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: > I do that for anyone running a Belkin or Netgear. > > Crap routers. > > The old Linksys/Cisco were fine. Not so sure about

Re: [AFMUG] Routers as switches

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
I do that for anyone running a Belkin or Netgear. Crap routers. The old Linksys/Cisco were fine. Not so sure about the new Linksys yet. Not impressed so far. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] hah - that made my day

2015-07-01 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Or the title of a bad porno Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Brett A Mansfield > wrote: > > I don't know. The taming of the wild pole sounds like something that would be > outlawed. It sounds too much like a sex act. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 1, 2015, at 4:26 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Routers as switches

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I wish more did that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:16:06 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Routers as switches I've been running into some cases recently

[AFMUG] Fwd: Finally done!😄

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
That tower mount list is waaay too big. It fills almost 25% of my screen... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- Forwarded message -- From: Chuck McCown Date: Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 5:53 PM Subject: Finally done!😄 To: j..

Re: [AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck Hogg
He could always complain to the PUC/PSC. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > We're marking pole locations and some of them are in agricultural areas. > I will feel like a vandal when I whack down some corn to make a spot for my > stake. Aside from my feelings,

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM?] Re: Routers as switches

2015-07-01 Thread SmarterBroadband
We also see Netgear doing this now. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [SPAM?] Re: [AFMUG] Routers as switches Some routers (specifically Apple AirPorts) will default to bridge

Re: [AFMUG] Routers as switches

2015-07-01 Thread Bill Prince
Some routers (specifically Apple AirPorts) will default to bridge mode if they detect that they are being NATted. If you switch them to router w/NAT, they will complain about double NAT. bp On 7/1/2015 2:16 PM, Nate Burke wrote: I've been running into some cases recently, usually when switchi

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Bill Prince
and bars on the windows? bp On 7/1/2015 10:26 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: I correlate the NAT security to a daughters bedroom. Most fathers dont have an exterior door on their daughters bedroom You dont just walk directly in, sure somebody can put a ladder to her window (port forward) bu

[AFMUG] Routers as switches

2015-07-01 Thread Nate Burke
I've been running into some cases recently, usually when switching people off of Satellite connections, that their 'Insert brand here' router is setup in bridge mode. They have the Internet cable plugged into the WAN Port of the router, but it's just acting as a switch. Is this a standard con

Re: [AFMUG] Municipal conduit agreement

2015-07-01 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Don't have the city's lawyer draft the agreement. The city's lawyer works for the city, and isn't going to be looking out for your best interests. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:34 PM To: af@afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] OFFLIST WTB 5.4 430 SM's

2015-07-01 Thread Paul McCall
U.. Paul, that wasn’t offlist, LOL From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OFFLIST WTB 5.4 430 SM's Sam, We have 28 pieces in stock. If you take them all, $ 50 each 10Mbit Paul, PDMNet From:

[AFMUG] OFFLIST WTB 5.4 430 SM's

2015-07-01 Thread Paul McCall
Sam, We have 28 pieces in stock. If you take them all, $ 50 each 10Mbit Paul, PDMNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB 5.4 430 SM's 10-15? Or for a good price, 25. On Wed, Jul 1, 20

Re: [AFMUG] WTB 5.4 430 SM's

2015-07-01 Thread Sam Lambie
10-15? Or for a good price, 25. On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > how many? > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I am looking for some SM's. 10 mbps is fine. Let me know if you have any >> to let go. >> >> thanks >> Sam >> >> -- >> -- >

Re: [AFMUG] WTB 5.4 430 SM's

2015-07-01 Thread Gino Villarini
how many? On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Hey all, > > I am looking for some SM's. 10 mbps is fine. Let me know if you have any > to let go. > > thanks > Sam > > -- > -- > *Sam Lambie* > Taosnet Wireless Tech. > 575-758-7598 Office > www.Taosnet.com >

[AFMUG] WTB 5.4 430 SM's

2015-07-01 Thread Sam Lambie
Hey all, I am looking for some SM's. 10 mbps is fine. Let me know if you have any to let go. thanks Sam -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

[AFMUG] ROW

2015-07-01 Thread Adam Moffett
We're marking pole locations and some of them are in agricultural areas. I will feel like a vandal when I whack down some corn to make a spot for my stake. Aside from my feelings, am I going to run into any other problems? Can the farmer come after me for the $10 worth of crop I killed? Wha

Re: [AFMUG] IPPay, you're awesome

2015-07-01 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Brian, Perhaps A/B changes behind your load balancers? In my day job I work for a largish book store online. :) They might make changes in that fashion. ryan On 7/1/15 11:22 AM, Brian Young wrote: All, thank you for the comments. We actually have chosen those times because we have years o

Re: [AFMUG] IPPay, you're awesome

2015-07-01 Thread Brian Young
All, thank you for the comments. We actually have chosen those times because we have years of day of month and time of day trends, and those times are the lowest. Also remember many of the maintenance times we call are planned to be non service impacting. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
Agreed. Awesome. - Original Message - From: Tyler Treat To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases I love this. It should be published in the book of Steveisms. ___ Mangled by

[AFMUG] Nissan Leaf getting an upgrade

2015-07-01 Thread Rory Conaway
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/61851/nissan-leaf-to-get-new-battery-tech-improved-range-in-midlife-update We might have a lot of used batteries running around soon. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Tyler Treat
I love this. It should be published in the book of Steveisms. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:26 PM, That One Guy /sarcas

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I correlate the NAT security to a daughters bedroom. Most fathers dont have an exterior door on their daughters bedroom You dont just walk directly in, sure somebody can put a ladder to her window (port forward) but by defaul there is a slight measure of security because you have to come in the hou

Re: [AFMUG] IPPay, you're awesome

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Do you really feel 10 to 11 is peak time? What time would you prefer? I know Powercode runs at 3am server time and I have to assume other billing systems are in the early hours like that, too. Ya there does seem to be an awful lot of maintenance windows the last couple months. I don't want to t

Re: [AFMUG] IPPay, you're awesome

2015-07-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Not bad! I agree. My only complaint is their maintenance windows are near peak times of 10-11pm for some reason. I’ve been caught by that a couple of times now where customer makes an online payment from their bed apparently and gets a weird error… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Beh

Re: [AFMUG] FSK 900mhz AP to SM should it read the same as a SM?

2015-07-01 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Quick follow up. Climb resolved it. Hung a P10 and we saw a 7db change on those customers having issues. They dropped into 2x and are running well. I did not compare the numbers on the closer customers. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
It doesn't work on Cisco. Someone on NANOG just tried to use it (internally). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:52 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Good luck updating every IP stack on the planet. > > On 7/1/201

Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
It would take longer to get those fixes done than to get IPv6 implemented. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Keefe John" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesda

Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Microcell issues

2015-07-01 Thread Bill Prince
I assume it's the upside-down "Y" thing (formerly) made by Cisco? They have had a number of issues. At one point, they cross-checked the address with the GPS coordinates, and if the GPS coordinates weren't within 1/4 or so of the address, they would refuse to connect. I thought they fixed this

Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
Okay. I'll just put a note in with next month's invoices... lol - Original Message - From: George Skorup To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8 Good luck updating every IP stack on the planet. On 7/1/2015 11:46 AM, Ke

Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8

2015-07-01 Thread George Skorup
Good luck updating every IP stack on the planet. On 7/1/2015 11:46 AM, Keefe John wrote: Maybe they should start allocating 240.0.0.0-255.255.255.255 On 7/1/2015 11:06 AM, Roger Timmerman wrote: I like XKCD's map of IP allocations. It's somewhat out of date, but does show where a lot of waste

Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8

2015-07-01 Thread Keefe John
Maybe they should start allocating 240.0.0.0-255.255.255.255 On 7/1/2015 11:06 AM, Roger Timmerman wrote: I like XKCD's map of IP allocations. It's somewhat out of date, but does show where a lot of waste is at, which hasn't changed much since this was created. https://xkcd.com/195/ On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Microcell issues

2015-07-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Thats weird, one of those results (IP Address Labs) nails down the IP to the city the customer is located in, how does it do that? Freaking NSA The path is the same because we havent put in any alternate paths yet, just changed to OSPF Customers are getting port forward instructions from AT&T on

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Very Correct Glen. Nat is not secure. It’s like blending your door into the rest of your house. The door is still there just a little harder to find. But if there are no locks it’s still an unlocked door. Justin --- Justin Wilson http://www.mtin.net Managed Services

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
In order for networks to grow they will need to have the ability to push public IPs to the customer. I totally see a point where every device on a customer’s lan needs to have a public IP address. We are already seeing the trend toward this. Home security systems, IP enabled appliances, mult

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
I think we're having two different conversations here. I'm using NAT with a firewall. I don't think anyone is saying NAT by itself is secure. - Original Message - From: Justin Wilson - MTIN To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] privat

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

2015-07-01 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
They have what is called Right of Way access. If you are a registered utility in most states you can get this. This varies from state to state on what has to happen to do this. Justin --- Justin Wilson http://www.mtin.net Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Ce

Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Microcell issues

2015-07-01 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Things to check. 1.Does the whois of these IPs correspond correctly? These could be geolocated to the wrong country. Start here. http://www.iplocation.net/ I would make sure your OSPF is taking the same path in and out of the towers. If OSPF is not weighted proper

Re: [AFMUG] 44.0.0.0/8

2015-07-01 Thread Roger Timmerman
I like XKCD's map of IP allocations. It's somewhat out of date, but does show where a lot of waste is at, which hasn't changed much since this was created. https://xkcd.com/195/ On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Not sure about Daimler, but Ford does... I'm sure there are

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
They should be calling JULIE. If not, it's their ass on the line. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesda

Re: [AFMUG] 3650 registration

2015-07-01 Thread Dan Petermann
Thank you very much! On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: > Why yes there is… there is a FCC Registration walkthrough at: > > https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/#r3 > Let me know if you are still missing any information. > > Matt > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

2015-07-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Interesting... so in theory, we can go and stick towers in ROW now? I assume there must be restrictions on what sort of poles/tower can be put in? On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have put towers in the ROW for use a towers, so I would presume yes. > > *From:* Christoph

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
IPV6 is very DNS orientated. There is no way you are going to remember ip addresses like you do in V4. DNS and backend systems are going to become more and more critical to the ISPs who are providing V6. Also, IMHO, more and more managed routers are going to be deployed as folks go to V6. Th

Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Microcell issues

2015-07-01 Thread Chris Fabien
We have one customer reporting this as well. Seems to have started a few weeks ago. had them bring it to the office to test, worked fine, but will not work at their house behind a ubnt radio. On Jul 1, 2015 11:57 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Did AT&T make some change to their microcells?

[AFMUG] AT&T Microcell issues

2015-07-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Did AT&T make some change to their microcells? We have customers callin in alot with their microcells no longer working. I initially thought it was because we moved some customers to some IP space we borrowed from our upstream. But we have had a couple that didnt change and one that actually is tri

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
For one I've got 5 PC's on this network that I use regularly, never had an issue. Secondly, whenever *anything* hinky is going on (here, there, QoS tweaking, etc) I torch the Ethernet connection to see what is going on and where it is being dropped. I forgot to mention earlier, we have had an

[AFMUG] IPPay, you're awesome

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Last month I only paid 0.0206. Low cost and great phone support. I'm not sure it's perfect but damn they're close. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Doing an ifconfig on a Mac and you’ll see a lot of “temporary” IPv6 addresses. These are used for outbound connections on a temporary basis and get phased out routinely and replaced with new temporary IPv6 addresses for new outbound connections. I currently show 8 temporary IPv6 IPs. How Win

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I guess Im stuck in the limited space mindset with NAT but many of our clients have multiple mail serverish devices on their networks that all need to present as the same IP to meet reverse DNS and spf I dont now whether my mindest on that is efficient or lazy We have alot of firewall access polici

Re: [AFMUG] 3650 registration

2015-07-01 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Why yes there is... there is a FCC Registration walkthrough at: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/#r3 Let me know if you are still missing any information. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dan Petermann Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.c

[AFMUG] 3650 registration

2015-07-01 Thread Dan Petermann
Is there someplace on the Cambium website that has a tutorial on registering locations? I need the following info: Transmit antenna transmission code Transmit antenna transmission code if others apply? Digital Modulation type The specific band within the 3.65 band

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Paul Stewart
One other comment around "haven't had a security issue yet". I used to get the same argument from a former co-worker and my question was always "how do you know you haven't had a security issue?". It seems like a loaded question but unless you have some pretty advanced security *in* your netwo

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I forget what it's called, but there's a component of IPv6 where a computer *can* use a new IP address for each request to avoid tracking. Disposable IPs, though obviously the service provider knows the range they've allocated for legal purposes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing S

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Just to clarify, I'm agreeing with you. IPv6 on the other hand would be security through obscurity if you don't implement a firewall. Which I assume everyone would do. But we know what happens when you ass-u-me. -Original Message- From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
Maybe I need to study a bit more, but I run MT, haven't had a security issue yet. I've got a firewall configured on the MT. The only way I see into my network is owning one of my routers, though you guys may educate me. We've had plenty of attempts. The only thing that has successfully shut u

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
ARIN activated the IPv4 Unmet Request policy (NRPM 4.1.8) this week with the approval of an address request that was larger than the available inventory in the regional IPv4 free pool. Full details about this process are available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/request/waiting_list.html ARIN

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Just think of the number of IP’s assigned to organizations, but not being used. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broad

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
NAT is not security through obscurity, unless you're referring to 1:1 NAT which is not what most people mean when they say NAT. Setting up NAT in a Mikrotik illuminates the situation. In order for NAT (actually overloaded dynamic NAT/PAT) to work, you must turn on connection tracking, allow i

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Paul Stewart
Virtually nothing left that is useful … hoping that people start to take IPv6 more seriously – your business (referring to the masses) may someday depend on it .. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Paul Stewart
I'm not sure your argument is really valid.. NAT is "security through obscurity" which translates to "zero additional security" also known as "false security" IPv6 behind a stateful firewall is just as secure - some folks would argue it's more secure but that argument would take several paragr

[AFMUG] Fiber Cuts

2015-07-01 Thread Sam Lambie
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/30/california-internet-outage/29521335/ -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
I have put towers in the ROW for use a towers, so I would presume yes. From: Christopher Gray Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country A little off topic, but pole related: Can poles be put in the ROW for use primarily as small towers?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher Gray
A little off topic, but pole related: Can poles be put in the ROW for use primarily as small towers? On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yep, minimum of $2/pole per year. Probably more like $12 to $20. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
Moderately. I've got firewall rules as mentioned. I just like the non-routable address. The fact that my PC's aren't public does make me feel a little better. Every service I have a port forward for has a log full of hack attempts. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
Yeah, but the great thing about NAT is that my network isn't public. That is my primary argument with IPv6. - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases You could use a single IPv6 to say, M

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
What's the argument? Are you suggesting that NAT is in any way secure? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Glen Waldrop wrote: > Yeah, but the great thing about NAT is that my network isn't public. > >

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Adam Moffett
True, but it also becomes true by adding a single firewall rule that drops new incoming connections. On 7/1/2015 10:00 AM, Glen Waldrop wrote: Yeah, but the great thing about NAT is that my network isn't public. That is my primary argument with IPv6. - Original Message - From: "Chuc

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Adam Moffett
YeahI think it's officially against ARIN's rules, but I have always assumed that those guys with /8's would start selling or leasing /24's. On 7/1/2015 9:57 AM, Glen Waldrop wrote: /dons sunglasses, trenchcoat and hat Hey man, wanna buy some IPv4? - Original Message - *From

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Glen Waldrop
/dons sunglasses, trenchcoat and hat Hey man, wanna buy some IPv4? - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:17 PM Subject: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases well ipv4 is officially gone. has anyone done any private ipv4 acqui

Re: [AFMUG] is this real or a paranoid spokesperson?

2015-07-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Had that happen when i was at SWW years ago. Disgruntled employee cut fiber On Jun 30, 2015 3:44 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > > http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/06/30/coordinated-attack-downs-services-with-cut-lines/29527161/ > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the tea

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
You could use a single IPv6 to say, Mars. And everyone on Mars could have their own static IP that uses the first 64 to get to Mars and the second 64 to get to all the subscribers. Assuming routers exist that would do this. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 20

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Matt
> Just saying that NAT is not needed. Every single IP gives you so much > address space that you will never be able to use it. > > Essentially a number of globally routable set of static IPs come with every > IP such that one single IP could probably run the whole planet right now. You mean eve

Re: [AFMUG] wire color standards

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I assume that someone just wanted to be an asshole. Even if there's a legitimate reason, they're still an asshole. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "That

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Just saying that NAT is not needed. Every single IP gives you so much address space that you will never be able to use it. Essentially a number of globally routable set of static IPs come with every IP such that one single IP could probably run the whole planet right now. From: Mike Hammet

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Why would you, though? The standard allocation is more than enough for just about anyone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Way off!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 1, 2015 8:59 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > REMAINING IPV4 INVENTORYDiscrete Block Size (CIDR)Number of Blocks > Available/2359/24437 > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Chuck McCown
If you did it right, you could run your whole company off of one single ipv6 address. (Unless you have more than 281,474,976,710,656 customers). From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:00 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases Check out the presenta

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Check out the presentation ARIN gave at the last NANOG. They talked about the steps they'll be going through to recover allocations, but it's not expected to be anything significant or timely. Why would you NAT IPv6? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.c

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

2015-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
REMAINING IPV4 INVENTORY Discrete Block Size (CIDR) Number of Blocks Available /23 59 /24 437 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman"

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