Re: [AFMUG] Van vs Tractor Oops..

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Spray can, bondo Good as new On Nov 16, 2016 8:52 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > oops > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Van vs Tractor Oops..

2016-11-16 Thread Mike Hammett
oops - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Roland Houin" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:14:15 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Van vs Tractor Oops..

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ad Deployment in a House

2016-11-16 Thread David Milholen
It might make good popcorn if its adjusted right LOL On 11/16/2016 3:26 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Well, maybe 60GHz room to room might make a decent extender as well ala UBNT Amplifi HD. I think UBNT should make an Amplifi HD HD with 802.11ad and ac, lol! *From:*Af

Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops.

2016-11-16 Thread Bill Prince
Ouchy ouchy ouchy. No one hurt? Man, that could have been so much worse... bp On 11/16/2016 3:10 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: That'll buff out... Noone injured. Not my photos.

Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops.

2016-11-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
That appears to be the case. Somewhere there is a crane company's insurance adjuster having a very bad day. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > did they take out two company trucks and a trailer? > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Eric

Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops.

2016-11-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
did they take out two company trucks and a trailer? On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > an old, rare, weird one? > > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> What kind of tower is that in the background in the second

Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops.

2016-11-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
an old, rare, weird one? On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > What kind of tower is that in the background in the second photo? > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart > Sent: Wednesday, November 16,

Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops.

2016-11-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
What kind of tower is that in the background in the second photo? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops. Ouch .. glad to hear nobody hurt…

Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops.

2016-11-16 Thread Paul Stewart
Ouch .. glad to hear nobody hurt… Several years back at former company I worked at, we had a crane operator standing up a 200’ tower and he overextended somehow and tower let go (cables snapped) … tower came down - nobody hurt neither… and aside from the tower getting totalled there was no

[AFMUG] FCC Abides by GOP request to stop voting until after inauguration

2016-11-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/11/16/2146253/fcc-abides-by-gop-request-to-stop-what-its-doing-deletes-everything-from-meeting-agenda Soo... guess no 11% price cap decrease on business data services :(

Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops.

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Tole ‘m to put out the outriggers, but no From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops. That'll buff out... Noone injured. Not my photos.

Re: [AFMUG] Crane safety: Oops.

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep. Polish and bando... No problem On Nov 16, 2016 4:11 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > That'll buff out... > > Noone injured. Not my photos. > > > >

[AFMUG] URGENT Any Vendor have a HP2-18EXD in stock?

2016-11-16 Thread SmarterBroadband
A crew from another company damaged one of our dishes and we need a replacement ASAP. HP2-18EXD. Can anyone help? Thanks Adam

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ad Deployment in a House

2016-11-16 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Well, maybe 60GHz room to room might make a decent extender as well ala UBNT Amplifi HD. I think UBNT should make an Amplifi HD HD with 802.11ad and ac, lol! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

2016-11-16 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I did the direct drop in replacement, still in process. I had T8 in banks of three per ballast/light, but I am replacing 19 banks with only two LED replacements each on the 5000k 'blue' kind. I believe I will go from something like 1600W to around 650W for the entire thing. The boxes of them

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

2016-11-16 Thread Sean Heskett
hey gino, we are waiting for the FCC to approve the DFS band before we move clients to the 450m's. We had to get them on the tower and alive tho because it's about to be snow season and one tower is at the top of the ski area, the other tower is across the valley. I'll report more once we have

[AFMUG] Google engineer: Wireless industry needs to 'break the model of exclusive spectrum' | FierceWireless

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Customer router impact on 5G 450 connection

2016-11-16 Thread Eric Muehleisen
The 802.11ac Quantenna chipset uses client SNR, RSSI, PHY rate, SSID beacons, etc...to measure noise/interference and make channel changing decisions. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:50 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I think part of (maybe the) problem with auto channel selection is

Re: [AFMUG] Routerboard CCR1036

2016-11-16 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We converted our CCR1036's to DC. Ours had the two connectors and we just wired the second one up for DC 24V. Will run with AC plugged in as well. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:27 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > I can't remember the plug type, but I got 10 of them so if u want one or > two

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

2016-11-16 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
1588v2 works best when every hop is 1588v2 aware and compatible. This means every router, switch, etc between the clock master and the radio should be qualified for correct operations. 1588v2 compatible gear tends to be much more expensive. On Nov 16, 2016 3:38 PM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] Highest capacity 6 GHz system

2016-11-16 Thread Chris Gustaf
I can answer the question about XPIC that Mike Hammett asked. With XPIC the opposite polarization signal is dynamically inverted, scaled and essentially summed with the desired polarization to remove the effect of SNR/MSE degradation. That is why we have two coax cables connecting the radios, so

Re: [AFMUG] Customer router impact on 5G 450 connection

2016-11-16 Thread George Skorup
I think part of (maybe the) problem with auto channel selection is that it will look for the channel with the least number of 802.11 beacons. So if your non-802.11 radio is transmitting, it may be drowning out any 802.11 stuff on the same or adjacent channels and make it look cleaner than it

Re: [AFMUG] Customer router impact on 5G 450 connection

2016-11-16 Thread Robert Andrews
Auto on most routers typically is only choosing when the router reboots. So.. Power outage/glitch, router boots, looks around, sees no other traffic ( because all other routers nearby are rebooting because of same glitch ), settles on first channel. Ditto for all other routers, and _then_

Re: [AFMUG] Guess who came to mind

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Picadillo comes two ways around here... Shredded or ground beef Browned and no grease, cooked with sliced jalapenos, tomatoes and onions... All cooked together after meat gets browned... No beans in it American Chile/Chili is more regional On Nov 16, 2016 10:56 AM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] Guess who came to mind

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
So, how does picadillo differ from american style chilli beans? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 4:51 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Guess who came to mind My breakfast this morning was two eggs, picadillo, hash browns and retried beans with flour tortillas...

Re: [AFMUG] Routerboard CCR1036

2016-11-16 Thread TJ Trout
I can't remember the plug type, but I got 10 of them so if u want one or two send me your address. Depending on the age of your CCR1036 it's either : 1. two connectors, ready for redundant second psu, 2. one connector, needs second connector installed. 3. One connector, second connector is not

[AFMUG] Routerboard CCR1036

2016-11-16 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Has anyone powered one of these routers via DC (not PoE)? It looks like the board supports 2 power ports on the board (setup for dual power) and I want to make sure I have redundant power which I can do via DC. I need to determine the plug and the voltage. Gilbert

Re: [AFMUG] Hanging Sectors off a parapet

2016-11-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Whoa that's awesome! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Daniel White wrote: > Sam, > > > > Something like this is what I have used on commercial buildings in years > past. For the

Re: [AFMUG] Hanging Sectors off a parapet

2016-11-16 Thread Daniel White
Sam, Something like this is what I have used on commercial buildings in years past. For the rooftops in your area it should work too: http://www.commscope.com/catalog/doc/pdf/174/Non-Penetrating_Parapet_Mount.pdf Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence

[AFMUG] OT El Paso Taco Party: Free tacos, beer at the park this weekend

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am going to miss this one as I will be out of town But the places they mention cater to blander Tacos http://elpaso411.com/2016/11/el-paso-taco-party-free-tacos-beer-at-the-park-this-weekend/

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

2016-11-16 Thread Christopher Tyler
They make both kinds of LED lights. Direct drop in replacements and those which run directly off of AC power which have to have the ballast removed. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince"

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha!!! Touche' On Nov 16, 2016 9:43 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > do you think he would have spent as much time on him if he knew what he > was going to end up doing with a belt and lemon peel? > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
do you think he would have spent as much time on him if he knew what he was going to end up doing with a belt and lemon peel? On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Ah ..you missed it completely...I weep for our youth > >

[AFMUG] Looking for AF11x

2016-11-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hello, I realize that this is a long shot. I am looking for one pair of AF-11x (low band) radios. Anyone with any leads, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ah ..you missed it completely...I weep for our youth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbNCBVzPYak Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:20 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am not a grasshopper, Im a go***mned butterfly!

Re: [AFMUG] Hanging Sectors off a parapet

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Nice looking. From: Jeremy Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hanging Sectors off a parapet On a barnon this one I mounted unistrut horizontal and then used strut straps to mount pipes for the sector mounts. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:18 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Hanging Sectors off a parapet

2016-11-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
those are freaking beautiful. You could hide alot of stuff in pvc drain tile and paint it. Is there such a thing as non metallic silver paint? On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy wrote: > Here is another option that works on homes with false chimneys (we have a >

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I am not a grasshopper, Im a go***mned butterfly! On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > the answer is in your question, grasshopper. > > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:26 AM, That One Guy

Re: [AFMUG] Hanging Sectors off a parapet

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Tessco has a division that makes aesthetically pleasing antennas and mounts...Ventev maybe you can find something will work. I know Marlon Schafer had to paint dishes to match a Golf Course building to "hide" it... Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Nov 16, 2016

[AFMUG] Hanging Sectors off a parapet

2016-11-16 Thread Sam Lambie
I am working on a house that has a few AP's on it and the owner would rather not have anymore things sticking up in the sky. So I thought I could hang the Antennas off the parapet and paint them the color of the wall.. has anyone done this? And if so, is there pre-made gear that can be purchased?

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
the answer is in your question, grasshopper. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:26 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why did it take someone as abrupt as trump coming along for this guy to > decide to diversify his

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Dave
The Smart phone has put a stop to that (sarcasm) ROFL On 11/16/2016 08:28 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: The flaw in all plans to develop "better" trading partners than the US is the as a nation we consume more crap of every kind than anyone. It is difficult to develop enough relationships to

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Why did it take someone as abrupt as trump coming along for this guy to decide to diversify his countries interests, why not when he was president? The cartel money was too good or what? I would love to see our southern neighbor as successful as our northern one appears to be. Sometimes I mow my

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Unless it is a danged good surge protector, then it is made in the USA... (with lead based solder). From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:23 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms Most everything with a PCB is made in Asia. Less to

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-16 Thread Robert
Thank you, Chuck... Now to our regular programming... PLEASE! Dang it I want more reviews of horn antennas on more radio platform types... On 11/16/16 6:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Guys, we really don't need another week of this. I have my opinions on all of this too but all of us have

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
Most everything with a PCB is made in Asia. Less to no regulations on how you deal with all the caustic chemicals. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:17 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > From what i read this morning the goal is to diversify their partners so > not to depend on one

Re: [AFMUG] cacti graph template for Frame util

2016-11-16 Thread Dave
I created my own using mib tree was fun but got what I needed On 11/16/2016 08:55 AM, Dave Bradich wrote: Thanks!!! *//* */Regards, Dave/* */ispeed Communications/* */(250) 469-9342/* *//* */The sender intends this message for a specific recipient and, as it may contain information

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
>From what i read this morning the goal is to diversify their partners so not to depend on one source... Germany and other European countries are offering Mexico trade deals aggressively. I have no confidence in Trump's knowledge of NAFTA and foreign trade, except maybe on how get his cheap

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-16 Thread Andy Trimmell
+100 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Guys, we really don't need another week of this. I have my opinions on all of this too but all of us have

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

2016-11-16 Thread Gino Villarini
So what has been the experience with the 450M? From: Af > on behalf of Sean Heskett > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] cacti graph template for Frame util

2016-11-16 Thread Dave Bradich
Thanks!!! Regards, Dave ispeed Communications (250) 469-9342 The sender intends this message for a specific recipient and, as it may contain information that is privileged or confidential, any use, dissemination, forwarding, or copying by anyone

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ad Deployment in a House

2016-11-16 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Sorry, a bit late on the reply on this one... With beamforming antennas, you might be surprised what it can accomplish in-room even at knee level. I like your idea. 60GHz bounces off of walls and other objects very well. -Hal On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:42 PM Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

2016-11-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not sure why everyone doesn't use that for timing. There may be technical reasons I don't know about, but it seems like a logical first step, use something everyone else is already using. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, as long as your ethernet is fast and not jittery it sure seems like an ideal solution. I guess it all depends on the absolute resolution you have to have on a guaranteed basis. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Oh, I get it. Similar to the enhancement they want to make to NTP. I wonder how accurate the timing needs to be for Cambium. Anyone know the max over the air baud rate for 450m? From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux &

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Used to be, as a member of IEEE, publications like that were free grumble From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux & 450M Timing Based on what others have said, I think it is all part of the "Precision Timing

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Guys, we really don't need another week of this. I have my opinions on all of this too but all of us have pretty much stated our opinions multiple times now. Not picking on you Sam or Bill. Just the whole group. We (most of us) are Americans. We are good sports. We give the winning team a

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
I believe Trump to be immoral, I believe the Clintons to be amoral. I believe Trump would cheat me in a business deal. I believe the Clintons would have me knocked off. Potato – Potatoe From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
The flaw in all plans to develop "better" trading partners than the US is the as a nation we consume more crap of every kind than anyone. It is difficult to develop enough relationships to replace that if not impossible. There are nations with similiar transportation costs to major consumers that

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-16 Thread Sam Morris
Lawsuit does not equal criminal. I can file a lawsuit against you. Anyone can sue anyone. Doesn't mean either of them did anything criminal. Your numbers are how many people are now insured that weren't before are derived by the obama administration playing fast and loose with both the

Re: [AFMUG] [OT] The Gene Wars

2016-11-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
The Boys From Brazil .some would celebrate On Nov 15, 2016 11:48 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > That tool scares the hole crap out of me. > > > bp > > > On 11/15/2016 7:58 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> I had a discussion with my 17 year old just

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
What do they look like when it is frigid? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:57 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT.. Mexico not waiting with folded arms Ex President Fox spearheading a group to open trade with more countries and stop depending on US. They are going

Re: [AFMUG] Guess who came to mind

2016-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, not everyone has a Red Iguana in their back yard. Been there twice this month so far... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 4:37 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Guess who came to mind No like Dennys On Nov 15, 2016 4:33 PM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter?

2016-11-16 Thread Jason McKemie
I sure hope there are enough of them. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:54 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > There are always plenty of senate and congressional seats in super safe > districts willing to obstruct. > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 9:36 PM Jason McKemie