Re: [AFMUG] SSH or Telnet script to check when a radio/sm is up?

[Steve Jones]

not to be that guy, but powercode, sonar, etc... they do this for you and
redirect them to say "hey, bum, pay"


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> If you didn't want the redirect, you could just write a quick firewall to
> drop all traffic from the suspended list as well, but redirecting to a
> portal is preferable in my view.
>
> Cameron
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> thank you Cameron. I appreciate it!
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Cameron Crum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a MT script to set up the web proxy redirect. Obviously you will
>>> need to change the urls in the last section under /ip proxy address. This
>>> script takes anything in the 'suspended' address list and redirects port 80
>>> traffic to whatever you put in place of myportal.com. You also need to
>>> match the ip range at the bottom to whatever ip range you are handing out
>>> to your customers. You can add as many of that last rule as you need to
>>> cover all your ranges. As for the ssh script, it should be easy enough to
>>> write a simple script to ssh in and launch one of these:
>>>
>>>  /ip firewall address-list add address=x.x.x.x list=suspended
>>>
>>> and to remove
>>>
>>> /ip firewall address-list remove [find address=x.x.x.x]
>>>
>>> The web proxy set up script is this (only run this one time, then move
>>> all the rules to the top of their respective firewall sections):
>>>
>>>
>>> add action=accept chain=input comment=\
>>> "Allow Proxy - redirect suspended users - this and then next five
>>> rules should be at the top of the filter list" disabled=no dst-port=16099 \
>>> protocol=tcp
>>> add action=jump chain=forward disabled=no jump-target=Suspended \
>>> src-address-list=suspended
>>> add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-port=443 protocol=tcp
>>> add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no  \
>>> dst-port=53 protocol=udp
>>> add action=log chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-address-list=!PaymentGateway
>>> limit=5/1m,10 log-prefix=""
>>> add action=reject chain=Suspended disabled=no reject-with=\
>>> icmp-admin-prohibited
>>>
>>> /ip firewall nat
>>> add action=redirect chain=dstnat comment="Redirect Nat Rule for suspend
>>> users - put this rule at the top of the list " disabled=no dst-port=80 \
>>> protocol=tcp src-address-list=suspended to-ports=16099
>>>
>>> /ip proxy
>>> set always-from-cache=no cache-administrator=webmaster cache-hit-dscp=4
>>> cache-on-disk=no enabled=\
>>> yes max-cache-size=none max-client-connections=600 max-fresh-time=3d
>>> max-server-connections=\
>>> 600 parent-proxy=0.0.0.0 parent-proxy-port=0 port=16099
>>> serialize-connections=no src-address=\
>>> 0.0.0.0
>>> /ip proxy access
>>> add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=mywebsite.com
>>> add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=www.mywebsite.com
>>> add action=deny disabled=no redirect-to=myportal.com src-address=\
>>> x.x.x.x/24
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We are in the the process of going to MT. But now, plain ole Linksys
 e2500's.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Cameron Crum 
 wrote:

> Are you using MT routers? I can show you a script to ssh to the router
> and move him to an address list that either redirects him through a web
> proxy or just drops all traffic.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Sam Lambie 
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used a script to check say every 5 minutes when an SM is
>> up and make changes to it? If so, got an example?
>>
>> Ideally, I want to turn off the ethernet interface of the radio as
>> the customer is a bum, but he keeps weird hours an I don't want to be 
>> glued
>> to my seat checking when he is up.
>> I know that I could just block is WAN IP, but this is something I am
>> interested in and have never done.
>> Thanks
>> Sam
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>


 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Jason McKemie]

Granted, that's setting a pretty low bar though.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Linksys
>
> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>
> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>
>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
>> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
>> could only get better.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
>> wrote:
>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>> >>
>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Robert]

It was actually based upon a proto design that was put out by the chip 
manufacturer and there were 4 different companies that had basically the 
same guts.   The biggest differences were the GUI on top and the power 
supply they provided.   KISS


On 3/26/18 9:18 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Actually.. they were pretty solid

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:15 PM > wrote:


I’m going back to their original wrt54g routers that were damn near
bullet proof.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Jason McKemie
> wrote:


I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.

On Monday, March 26, 2018, > wrote:

Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought
linksys all hell broke loose, making some of the worse
products out there. I guess it could only get better.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds
> wrote:
>
> Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno
bout wemo.
>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown
> wrote:
>> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>>
>> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Steve Jones]

theyr like dlink di-704 and 504? they were solid, but the wrt54g was like
the wireless god. There are still customers running them.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:18 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Actually.. they were pretty solid
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:15 PM  wrote:
>
>> I’m going back to their original wrt54g routers that were damn near
>> bullet proof.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Jason McKemie > com> wrote:
>>
>> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>>
>> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>>
>>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
>>> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
>>> could only get better.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>>> >
>>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Jaime Solorza]

Actually.. they were pretty solid

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:15 PM  wrote:

> I’m going back to their original wrt54g routers that were damn near bullet
> proof.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>
> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>
>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
>> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
>> could only get better.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
>> wrote:
>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>> >>
>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[jason]

I’m going back to their original wrt54g routers that were damn near bullet 
proof. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Jason McKemie  
> wrote:
> 
> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
> 
>> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all 
>> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it 
>> could only get better.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>> >
>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>> >>
>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Steve Jones]

I remember the good ol days when #macoidsmatter

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 11:02 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Oh well it is an affordable router..
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:57 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>>
>> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>>
>>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
>>> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
>>> could only get better.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>>> >
>>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Steve Jones]

Isnt that just interwebs version?
Needed java last i looked.

Learning to use looking glasses has turned out to be more complex than
using bgp.

I had found one once that did cool historical maps and linked asn really
nice... of course everytime you find that one perfect tool, you can never
find it again

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:04 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Using BGPlay?
>
> RIPE's BGPlay works.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 8:40:31 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass
>
> ive found this to be very true, many, many
> routeviews is all java problems for me, i want it to work sooo bad
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> You won't need one, but many.
>>
>> Route-views is another good collection.
>>
>> Google for {Carrier name here} looking glass.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com, "Mike Hammett" 
>> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 5:57:53 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass
>>
>>
>> I was kind of hoping for a suggestion on one that works
>>
>> "Internal Server Error
>>
>> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
>> unable to complete your request.
>>
>> Please contact the server administrator, xost...@xo.com and inform them
>> of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that
>> may have caused the error.
>>
>> More information about this error may be available in the server error
>> log."
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/26/18 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> > http://www.bgp4.as/looking-glasses
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -
>> > Mike Hammett
>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> > <
>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> > Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> > <
>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> > The Brothers WISP 
>> > 
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> > 
>> > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
>> > *To: *af@afmug.com
>> > *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 5:54:25 PM
>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass
>> >
>> > What is a good website/service to use to view BGP AS
>> > routes/sessions/advertisements to observe why inbound traffic to your IP
>> > addresses might be taking one route over another?
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Jaime Solorza]

Oh well it is an affordable router..


Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:57 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>
> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>
>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
>> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
>> could only get better.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
>> wrote:
>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>> >>
>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Chuck McCown]

Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.

On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:

  Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all hell 
broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it could only 
get better.

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
  >
  > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
  >
  >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
  >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
  >>
  >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Jason McKemie]

I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.

On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:

> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
> could only get better.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> >
> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
> >
> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
> >>
> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[jason]

Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all hell 
broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it could only 
get better. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>> 
>> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Josh Reynolds]

Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>
> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Jaime Solorza]

Yeah me three

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:42 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> “*Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo*
> 
> ”
>
> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>

[AFMUG] Linksys

[Chuck McCown]

“Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”

I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Mike Hammett]

Using BGPlay? 

RIPE's BGPlay works. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 8:40:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 


ive found this to be very true, many, many 
routeviews is all java problems for me, i want it to work sooo bad 


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




You won't need one, but many. 

Route-views is another good collection. 

Google for {Carrier name here} looking glass. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
To: af@afmug.com , "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 5:57:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 



I was kind of hoping for a suggestion on one that works 

"Internal Server Error 

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request. 

Please contact the server administrator, xost...@xo.com and inform them 
of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that 
may have caused the error. 

More information about this error may be available in the server error log." 



On 3/26/18 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> http://www.bgp4.as/looking-glasses 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions < http://www.ics-il.com/ > 
> < https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL >< 
> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb >< 
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions >< 
> https://twitter.com/ICSIL > 
> Midwest Internet Exchange < http://www.midwest-ix.com/ > 
> < https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix >< 
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange >< 
> https://twitter.com/mdwestix > 
> The Brothers WISP < http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ > 
> < https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp > 
> 
> 
> < https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg > 
>  
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
> *To: * af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 5:54:25 PM 
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 
> 
> What is a good website/service to use to view BGP AS 
> routes/sessions/advertisements to observe why inbound traffic to your IP 
> addresses might be taking one route over another? 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Keefe John]

How does that work exactly?

On March 25, 2018 3:32:41 PM CDT, Jeff Broadwick - Lists  
wrote:
>They are going to use the 3GHz 450m with an additional device at the
>tower.  The CPE will have to be different though.
>
>Jeff Broadwick
>CTIconnect
>312-205-2519 Office
>574-220-7826 Cell
>jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>
>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>> 
>> I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform.
>Why not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer
>goodies of LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know
>where this ended up.
>> 
>> Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 
>> 
>> 
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>>> An: af@afmug.com
>>> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>>> 
>>> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>> 

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Re: [AFMUG] So i did this today

[Mathew Howard]

That picture would've been awesome with a beer on the stump!

I have to agree, there's a lot to like about epmp. Well, to a point... I
fear you may take things a bit too far, with the beer and all...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 7:36 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> lol, there should be a beer on the stump
> had a decomissioning ubnt 3ghz omni decide this weekend it was done with
> life. two other outages and the remaining 7 customers converted to epmp,
> technichally 11 jobs since i had to go to two of the customers twice since
> i needed permission to lag into their roof. this one was one of them. their
> tower bolts are wallowed so i couldnt climb, when i went back to meet with
> them, they didnt want it on the roof, so they got a stumpstall.44
>
> I gotta say, EPMP hit the fucking nail square on the head with multiple
> input voltages/pinouts. swap radio, leave a replacement power supply, boom
> boom boom. i brought to work van home just to have some EPMPs near me, im
> on beer now, never know what the night may bring, i love these EPMPs alot,
> like a really lot. a really really really lot
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey hey be nice.   I won't share
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:09 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> That'll be there for a couple of years. Blurry too, taking lessons from
>>> Jaime?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 In a pinch customers tower is busted

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

[Adam Moffett]

What I found interesting is the SMB exploit is fixed in 6.41.3.

The only mention of SMB in the Changelog is this:
"*) smb - improved NetBIOS name handling and stability; "


So fixing a buffer overflow which resulted in arbitrary code execution = 
"improved [...] stability" ?


Changelog is written by marketing dept maybe?


-- Original Message --
From: "Colin Stanners" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/26/2018 9:47:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

Same as the external-drive-file-sharing feature in home routers... it 
makes a cheap NAS. The only way you'd have that exposed to the outside 
world is through huge inexperience or foolishness, but I'm sure that 
you've seen by now that those users exist.


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Steve Jones 
 wrote:

why in jesus name would you turn that on?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
If an outsider can't hit the http service on your router then you 
should be ok.  You'd also be ok if you're keeping up your ROS version 
on either the "current" or "bugfix" track.


The second vulnerability I mentioned is only relevant if you've 
turned on the SMB service which is off by default.


-Adam


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/26/2018 9:28:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

AFAIK (assuming my firewall mastery isnt as awful as i think it is) 
I have a drop all input with an office ACL and allow connected 
winbox, but i do use romon with passwords. that should essentially 
"protect" shouldnt it?


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
I'm sure everyone here has a super duper uber secure network and 
never has to worry about something like this:
http://seclist.us/chimayred-reverse-engineering-of-mikrotik-exploits-from-vault-7-cia-leaks.html 



That info is from January.  If you have a MIPS BE or x86 mikrotik 
on ROS 6.38.4 or lower and have the http service exposed to the 
world then you could be hit by this.  The remotely executable code 
could be anything, even a remote shell which the attacker can use 
for any kind of additional ongoing nonsense.  Their CPU usage will 
show up as "unclassified" in Tool -> Profile.  I plead the 5th on 
how I know that last part.


Also on March 12 they announced a remote exploit in the SMB 
service.  I don't imagine most of us use the SMB service though.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Stefan Englhardt]

Regardless if they call it LTE+ or 5g. Stuff gets faster, latency goes down and 
more spectrum is used for increased capacity. And of course a marketing 
buzzword is needed. In some places LTE is realy fast now already. This carrier 
stuff is using spectrum very efficient.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: David M  
Datum: 27.03.18  02:42  (GMT+01:00) 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE 

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

[Colin Stanners]

Same as the external-drive-file-sharing feature in home routers... it makes
a cheap NAS. The only way you'd have that exposed to the outside world is
through huge inexperience or foolishness, but I'm sure that you've seen by
now that those users exist.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> why in jesus name would you turn that on?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> If an outsider can't hit the http service on your router then you should
>> be ok.  You'd also be ok if you're keeping up your ROS version on either
>> the "current" or "bugfix" track.
>>
>> The second vulnerability I mentioned is only relevant if you've turned on
>> the SMB service which is off by default.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Steve Jones" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 3/26/2018 9:28:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities
>>
>> AFAIK (assuming my firewall mastery isnt as awful as i think it is) I
>> have a drop all input with an office ACL and allow connected winbox, but i
>> do use romon with passwords. that should essentially "protect" shouldnt it?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure everyone here has a super duper uber secure network and never
>>> has to worry about something like this:
>>> http://seclist.us/chimayred-reverse-engineering-of-mikrotik-
>>> exploits-from-vault-7-cia-leaks.html
>>>
>>> That info is from January.  If you have a MIPS BE or x86 mikrotik on ROS
>>> 6.38.4 or lower and have the http service exposed to the world then you
>>> could be hit by this.  The remotely executable code could be anything, even
>>> a remote shell which the attacker can use for any kind of additional
>>> ongoing nonsense.  Their CPU usage will show up as "unclassified" in Tool
>>> -> Profile.  I plead the 5th on how I know that last part.
>>>
>>> Also on March 12 they announced a remote exploit in the SMB service.  I
>>> don't imagine most of us use the SMB service though.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

[Steve Jones]

why in jesus name would you turn that on?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> If an outsider can't hit the http service on your router then you should
> be ok.  You'd also be ok if you're keeping up your ROS version on either
> the "current" or "bugfix" track.
>
> The second vulnerability I mentioned is only relevant if you've turned on
> the SMB service which is off by default.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/26/2018 9:28:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities
>
> AFAIK (assuming my firewall mastery isnt as awful as i think it is) I have
> a drop all input with an office ACL and allow connected winbox, but i do
> use romon with passwords. that should essentially "protect" shouldnt it?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I'm sure everyone here has a super duper uber secure network and never
>> has to worry about something like this:
>> http://seclist.us/chimayred-reverse-engineering-of-mikrotik-
>> exploits-from-vault-7-cia-leaks.html
>>
>> That info is from January.  If you have a MIPS BE or x86 mikrotik on ROS
>> 6.38.4 or lower and have the http service exposed to the world then you
>> could be hit by this.  The remotely executable code could be anything, even
>> a remote shell which the attacker can use for any kind of additional
>> ongoing nonsense.  Their CPU usage will show up as "unclassified" in Tool
>> -> Profile.  I plead the 5th on how I know that last part.
>>
>> Also on March 12 they announced a remote exploit in the SMB service.  I
>> don't imagine most of us use the SMB service though.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Steve Jones]

ive found this to be very true, many, many
routeviews is all java problems for me, i want it to work sooo bad

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> You won't need one, but many.
>
> Route-views is another good collection.
>
> Google for {Carrier name here} looking glass.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com, "Mike Hammett" 
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 5:57:53 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass
>
>
> I was kind of hoping for a suggestion on one that works
>
> "Internal Server Error
>
> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
> unable to complete your request.
>
> Please contact the server administrator, xost...@xo.com and inform them
> of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that
> may have caused the error.
>
> More information about this error may be available in the server error
> log."
>
>
>
> On 3/26/18 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > http://www.bgp4.as/looking-glasses
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> >  IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> > Midwest Internet Exchange 
> >  linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> twitter.com/mdwestix>
> > The Brothers WISP 
> > 
> >
> >
> > 
> > 
> > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> > *To: *af@afmug.com
> > *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 5:54:25 PM
> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass
> >
> > What is a good website/service to use to view BGP AS
> > routes/sessions/advertisements to observe why inbound traffic to your IP
> > addresses might be taking one route over another?
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

[Adam Moffett]

If an outsider can't hit the http service on your router then you should 
be ok.  You'd also be ok if you're keeping up your ROS version on either 
the "current" or "bugfix" track.


The second vulnerability I mentioned is only relevant if you've turned 
on the SMB service which is off by default.


-Adam


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/26/2018 9:28:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

AFAIK (assuming my firewall mastery isnt as awful as i think it is) I 
have a drop all input with an office ACL and allow connected winbox, 
but i do use romon with passwords. that should essentially "protect" 
shouldnt it?


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
I'm sure everyone here has a super duper uber secure network and never 
has to worry about something like this:
http://seclist.us/chimayred-reverse-engineering-of-mikrotik-exploits-from-vault-7-cia-leaks.html 



That info is from January.  If you have a MIPS BE or x86 mikrotik on 
ROS 6.38.4 or lower and have the http service exposed to the world 
then you could be hit by this.  The remotely executable code could be 
anything, even a remote shell which the attacker can use for any kind 
of additional ongoing nonsense.  Their CPU usage will show up as 
"unclassified" in Tool -> Profile.  I plead the 5th on how I know that 
last part.


Also on March 12 they announced a remote exploit in the SMB service.  
I don't imagine most of us use the SMB service though.

Re: [AFMUG] So i did this today

[Joe Novak]

+1

I'm with you. We elevated our first couple of 5ghz UBNT OMNIs today, very
happy with the process. They work very well.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> lol, there should be a beer on the stump
> had a decomissioning ubnt 3ghz omni decide this weekend it was done with
> life. two other outages and the remaining 7 customers converted to epmp,
> technichally 11 jobs since i had to go to two of the customers twice since
> i needed permission to lag into their roof. this one was one of them. their
> tower bolts are wallowed so i couldnt climb, when i went back to meet with
> them, they didnt want it on the roof, so they got a stumpstall.44
>
> I gotta say, EPMP hit the fucking nail square on the head with multiple
> input voltages/pinouts. swap radio, leave a replacement power supply, boom
> boom boom. i brought to work van home just to have some EPMPs near me, im
> on beer now, never know what the night may bring, i love these EPMPs alot,
> like a really lot. a really really really lot
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey hey be nice.   I won't share
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:09 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> That'll be there for a couple of years. Blurry too, taking lessons from
>>> Jaime?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 In a pinch customers tower is busted

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

[Steve Jones]

AFAIK (assuming my firewall mastery isnt as awful as i think it is) I have
a drop all input with an office ACL and allow connected winbox, but i do
use romon with passwords. that should essentially "protect" shouldnt it?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I'm sure everyone here has a super duper uber secure network and never has
> to worry about something like this:
> http://seclist.us/chimayred-reverse-engineering-of-
> mikrotik-exploits-from-vault-7-cia-leaks.html
>
> That info is from January.  If you have a MIPS BE or x86 mikrotik on ROS
> 6.38.4 or lower and have the http service exposed to the world then you
> could be hit by this.  The remotely executable code could be anything, even
> a remote shell which the attacker can use for any kind of additional
> ongoing nonsense.  Their CPU usage will show up as "unclassified" in Tool
> -> Profile.  I plead the 5th on how I know that last part.
>
> Also on March 12 they announced a remote exploit in the SMB service.  I
> don't imagine most of us use the SMB service though.
>

[AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

[Adam Moffett]

I'm sure everyone here has a super duper uber secure network and never 
has to worry about something like this:

http://seclist.us/chimayred-reverse-engineering-of-mikrotik-exploits-from-vault-7-cia-leaks.html

That info is from January.  If you have a MIPS BE or x86 mikrotik on ROS 
6.38.4 or lower and have the http service exposed to the world then you 
could be hit by this.  The remotely executable code could be anything, 
even a remote shell which the attacker can use for any kind of 
additional ongoing nonsense.  Their CPU usage will show up as 
"unclassified" in Tool -> Profile.  I plead the 5th on how I know that 
last part.


Also on March 12 they announced a remote exploit in the SMB service.  I 
don't imagine most of us use the SMB service though.

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Steve Jones]

...but dont mistake that as a 5 star rating

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> but no 24x7 support.
>
> one thing ive never complained about with serverplus is there price
>
> granted i vultured an employee to do it
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Matt Hoppes  rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.
>>
>> No one is going to work for $400/month.   But I put that $400 towards the
>> person's pay and now I have a person to do other things as well.
>>
>> On 3/26/18 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>>> I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for
>>> 400/mo.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes <
>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> nternet.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You're missing my point.
>>>
>>> Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.
>>>
>>> But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
>>> mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".
>>>
>>> BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the
>>> support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring
>>> someone -- who I can now use for other things.
>>>
>>> On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't
>>> possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get
>>> close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes
>>> >> 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did
>>> this
>>>  economic model.
>>>
>>>  I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
>>>
>>>  With a well running network support calls are near nothing.
>>> I took
>>>  the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have
>>> people
>>>  who do phones and other things.
>>>
>>>  On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman
>>> 
>>>  >> >> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
>>> words you
>>>  should run your open tech support.
>>>
>>>  I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
>>> just to
>>>  have someone speak English that they can understand.
>>> Until you get
>>>  about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to
>>> the cost
>>>  that Lane can.
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
>>> 
>>>  >> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>> 
>>>  >> >
>>>
>>>  "IN-DE GO" :)
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
>>>  >> 
>>>  >> >> wrote:
>>>
>>>  It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go.
>>> Like a
>>>  butchered version of the six fingered man.
>>>
>>>  On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
>>>  >>  >> >> wrote:
>>>
>>>  That's how it's pronounced...
>>>
>>>  Maybe a regional thing?
>>>
>>>  On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
>>>  >> 
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Steve Jones]

but no 24x7 support.

one thing ive never complained about with serverplus is there price

granted i vultured an employee to do it


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.
>
> No one is going to work for $400/month.   But I put that $400 towards the
> person's pay and now I have a person to do other things as well.
>
> On 3/26/18 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for
>> 400/mo.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > nternet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> You're missing my point.
>>
>> Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.
>>
>> But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
>> mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".
>>
>> BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the
>> support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring
>> someone -- who I can now use for other things.
>>
>> On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't
>> possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get
>> close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes
>> > 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>>  Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
>>  economic model.
>>
>>  I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
>>
>>  With a well running network support calls are near nothing.
>> I took
>>  the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have
>> people
>>  who do phones and other things.
>>
>>  On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman
>> 
>>  > >> wrote:
>>
>>  I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
>> words you
>>  should run your open tech support.
>>
>>  I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
>> just to
>>  have someone speak English that they can understand.
>> Until you get
>>  about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to
>> the cost
>>  that Lane can.
>>
>>  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
>> 
>>  > >> wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>> 
>>  > >
>>
>>  "IN-DE GO" :)
>>
>>  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
>>  > 
>>  > >> wrote:
>>
>>  It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go.
>> Like a
>>  butchered version of the six fingered man.
>>
>>  On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
>>  >  > >> wrote:
>>
>>  That's how it's pronounced...
>>
>>  Maybe a regional thing?
>>
>>  On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
>>  > 
>>  > >> wrote:
>>
>>  GTC does this too. I don’t know why
>> it’s so hard.
>>
>>  The company I used to work for was
>>

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Let me rephrase..to be more complete.

There are some docs, they're hard to find.  They're also not very pretty
and assume knowledge that some of our customers don't have.   This is what
we're fixing.




On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:39 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
> fixing this.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
>> documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
>> guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board. Top
>>> left I believe.
>>>
>>> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
>>> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
>>> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
>>> That's probably ungood.
>>>
>>> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
>>> again and see if the port trips.
>>>
>>> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
>>> Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other locations
>>> for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure that the
>>> jumpers are set correctly.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
 chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox
 jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
 I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM
 for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
 manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
 li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>
>> How long of a wire?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the
>>> Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

 There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that
 is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
 Forrest would know much more than I about that.

 I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
 before.
 I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.


 *From:* Sam Lambie
 *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
 Medusa

 I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
 didn't reboot it while the card was floating.

 On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:

> When this gets sent
> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>
> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
> ground fixes the problem.
>
> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
> or
> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the
> new timing stuff that I don’t understand.
> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>
> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is
> just accumulating.
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
> Medusa
>
> Yo smart folks,
>
> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a
> Cambium Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the
> Packetflux SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable 
> directly
> in the SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I 
> tested
> Sync (via Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. 
> Which
> ones work with the 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[David M]

Shh! thats a secret!



On 3/25/2018 3:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

5G is overrated and is just more LTE anyway.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Stefan Englhardt" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:04:11 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. 
Why not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer 
goodies of LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know 
where this ended up.


Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>
> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
fixing this.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
> documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
> guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board. Top
>> left I believe.
>>
>> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
>> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
>> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
>> That's probably ungood.
>>
>> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
>> again and see if the port trips.
>>
>> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>
>> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
>> Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other locations
>> for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure that the
>> jumpers are set correctly.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox
>>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM
>>> for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
>>> manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
 Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
 li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>
> How long of a wire?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
>> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>
>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that
>>> is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>
>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>> before.
>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>> Medusa
>>>
>>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>>
 When this gets sent
 Sorry you are having difficulty.

 I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
 ground fixes the problem.

 The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
 or
 Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the
 new timing stuff that I don’t understand.
 Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.

 Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is
 just accumulating.

 *From:* Sam Lambie
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
 Medusa

 Yo smart folks,

 I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a
 Cambium Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the
 Packetflux SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable 
 directly
 in the SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested
 Sync (via Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. 
 Which
 ones work with the thing?
 Chuck, What say you?

 Sam

 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 <%28575%29%20758-7598> Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <%28575%29%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] So i did this today

[Steve Jones]

lol, there should be a beer on the stump
had a decomissioning ubnt 3ghz omni decide this weekend it was done with
life. two other outages and the remaining 7 customers converted to epmp,
technichally 11 jobs since i had to go to two of the customers twice since
i needed permission to lag into their roof. this one was one of them. their
tower bolts are wallowed so i couldnt climb, when i went back to meet with
them, they didnt want it on the roof, so they got a stumpstall.44

I gotta say, EPMP hit the fucking nail square on the head with multiple
input voltages/pinouts. swap radio, leave a replacement power supply, boom
boom boom. i brought to work van home just to have some EPMPs near me, im
on beer now, never know what the night may bring, i love these EPMPs alot,
like a really lot. a really really really lot

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Hey hey be nice.   I won't share
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:09 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> That'll be there for a couple of years. Blurry too, taking lessons from
>> Jaime?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In a pinch customers tower is busted
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/26/18 4:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I was getting results 23 hours old the other day.

That is unless the Last Update means something else.  "Last 
Update3d5h58m53s ago (1 path installed)"


Maybe that means the last time it changed.



That's just the last time something happened in BGP, like a new 
announcement or bestpath change. If I mess with one of my prefixes the 
website shows the difference within the specified cache time and the 
"last update" says 31 seconds ago vs. 41 days pre-change. It's real time 
to within a minute for repeated queries.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Mike Hammett]

I was getting results 23 hours old the other day. 

That is unless the Last Update means something else. " Last Update 3d5h58m53s 
ago (1 path installed)" 

Maybe that means the last time it changed. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Seth Mattinen"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:15:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 

On 3/26/18 4:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> Note that HE's isn't realtime without telnetting in. 


It's real time enough; the result cached period for the website is like 
60 second or something and shows the time at the end of the results. 

Otherwise telnet to route-server.he.net 

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/26/18 4:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Note that HE's isn't realtime without telnetting in.



It's real time enough; the result cached period for the website is like 
60 second or something and shows the time at the end of the results.


Otherwise telnet to route-server.he.net

Re: [AFMUG] So i did this today

[Mathew Howard]

It looks he lag bolted it down... it'll be there until the stump rots. I've
seen worse...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> That'll be there for a couple of years. Blurry too, taking lessons from
> Jaime?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> In a pinch customers tower is busted
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Mike Hammett]

Note that HE's isn't realtime without telnetting in. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Seth Mattinen"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:12:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 

On 3/26/18 3:57 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: 
> I was kind of hoping for a suggestion on one that works 

Hurricane Electric: https://lg.he.net 
NTT: https://us.ntt.net/support/looking-glass/ 
AT: telnet to route-server.ip.att.net 
Sprint: https://www.sprint.net/lg/ 

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/26/18 3:57 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

I was kind of hoping for a suggestion on one that works


Hurricane Electric: https://lg.he.net
NTT: https://us.ntt.net/support/looking-glass/
AT: telnet to route-server.ip.att.net
Sprint: https://www.sprint.net/lg/

Re: [AFMUG] So i did this today

[Sam Lambie]

That'll be there for a couple of years. Blurry too, taking lessons from
Jaime?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> In a pinch customers tower is busted
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Sam Lambie]

Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board. Top
> left I believe.
>
> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
> That's probably ungood.
>
> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
> again and see if the port trips.
>
> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
> Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other locations
> for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure that the
> jumpers are set correctly.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox
>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM
>> for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
>> manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
 Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?

 How long of a wire?

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that
>> is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>> before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>> Medusa
>>
>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> When this gets sent
>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>
>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
>>> ground fixes the problem.
>>>
>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>> or
>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the
>>> new timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is
>>> just accumulating.
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>> Medusa
>>>
>>> Yo smart folks,
>>>
>>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a
>>> Cambium Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the
>>> Packetflux SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable 
>>> directly
>>> in the SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested
>>> Sync (via Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. 
>>> Which
>>> ones work with the thing?
>>> Chuck, What say you?
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <%28575%29%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <%28575%29%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <%28575%29%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Mike Hammett]

You won't need one, but many. 

Route-views is another good collection. 

Google for {Carrier name here} looking glass. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Matt Hoppes"  
To: af@afmug.com, "Mike Hammett"  
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 5:57:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 

I was kind of hoping for a suggestion on one that works 

"Internal Server Error 

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request. 

Please contact the server administrator, xost...@xo.com and inform them 
of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that 
may have caused the error. 

More information about this error may be available in the server error log." 



On 3/26/18 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> http://www.bgp4.as/looking-glasses 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions  
> 
>  
> Midwest Internet Exchange  
> 
>  
> The Brothers WISP  
>  
> 
> 
>  
>  
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes"  
> *To: *af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 5:54:25 PM 
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 
> 
> What is a good website/service to use to view BGP AS 
> routes/sessions/advertisements to observe why inbound traffic to your IP 
> addresses might be taking one route over another? 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Matt Hoppes]

I was kind of hoping for a suggestion on one that works

"Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request.


Please contact the server administrator, xost...@xo.com and inform them 
of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that 
may have caused the error.


More information about this error may be available in the server error log."



On 3/26/18 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

http://www.bgp4.as/looking-glasses



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 5:54:25 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

What is a good website/service to use to view BGP AS
routes/sessions/advertisements to observe why inbound traffic to your IP
addresses might be taking one route over another?

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Mike Hammett]

http://www.bgp4.as/looking-glasses 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Matt Hoppes"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 5:54:25 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 

What is a good website/service to use to view BGP AS 
routes/sessions/advertisements to observe why inbound traffic to your IP 
addresses might be taking one route over another? 

[AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Matt Hoppes]

What is a good website/service to use to view BGP AS 
routes/sessions/advertisements to observe why inbound traffic to your IP 
addresses might be taking one route over another?

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[George Skorup]

Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board. Top 
left I believe.


The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you 
just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much 
trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other 
return). That's probably ungood.


Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS 
again and see if the port trips.


On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
Well, since I don't have any spares of the *PowerInjector Plus Sync - 
Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other 
locations for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make 
sure that the jumpers are set correctly.


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie > wrote:


GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing
from Syncbox jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to
RTFM for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please
point me to the manual? I have never been able to find any
documentation on these things...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
> wrote:

Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List
Account) >
wrote:

Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?

How long of a wire?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie
> wrote:

Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going
through the Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version
a shot if you got it.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM, > wrote:

OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
There may be something unusual with timing pulses
on the power that is causing the surge suppressor
to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.
I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my
product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the
problem.
*From:* Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge
suppressor with Medusa
I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no
change, however, I didn't reboot it while the card
was floating.
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM, 
wrote:

When this gets sent
Sorry you are having difficulty.
I would pull it from the rack and see if the
interruption of the ground fixes the problem.
The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
or
Transverse impulses getting clamped. Could be
something about the new timing stuff that I
don’t understand.
Forrest is probably better versed in thinking
about this than I am.
Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk
and the time delay is just accumulating.
*From:* Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge
suppressor with Medusa
Yo smart folks,
I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge
suppressor inline with a Cambium Medusa today.
It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then
the Packetflux SyncInjector shutdown. Tried
putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the
bench when I tested Sync (via Aux Jr) and
Power- Data. I never tested a surge
suppressor. Which ones work with the thing?
Chuck, What say you?
Sam
-- 
 

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Sam Lambie]

Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other locations for
Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure that the jumpers
are set correctly.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy chained
> from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox jr via
> UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM
> for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
> manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>
>>> How long of a wire?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>
 Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
 Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:

> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>
> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>
> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
> before.
> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
> Medusa
>
> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>
>> When this gets sent
>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>
>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
>> ground fixes the problem.
>>
>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>> or
>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the
>> new timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>
>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is
>> just accumulating.
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> Yo smart folks,
>>
>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync 
>> (via
>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones 
>> work
>> with the thing?
>> Chuck, What say you?
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch Cables

[SmarterBroadband]

I like Shireen.

Made to order with epoxy heat shrink.

Adam

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch Cables

Where is an economical place to order quality N to N ~rg-58 patch cables 18-24 
inches?

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Sam Lambie]

GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy chained
from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox jr via
UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM for
the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>
>> How long of a wire?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
>>> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

 There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
 causing the surge suppressor to fire.
 Forrest would know much more than I about that.

 I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
 before.
 I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.


 *From:* Sam Lambie
 *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
 Medusa

 I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
 didn't reboot it while the card was floating.

 On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:

> When this gets sent
> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>
> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
> ground fixes the problem.
>
> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
> or
> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>
> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is
> just accumulating.
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> Yo smart folks,
>
> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones 
> work
> with the thing?
> Chuck, What say you?
>
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] More important things

[Jason McKemie]

I've started watching The Looming Tower, very good so far.  Excited about
the new season of Silicon Valley, although I liked Erlich, going to miss
that character.  Too many of these shows to watch and not enough time.
Still need to get caught up on Mr Robot, The Expanse, and new seasons
coming out of Handmaid's Tale, Westworld, and I believe Man in the High
Castle - among others.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:08 PM,  wrote:

> So tonight is big for TV.
> Billions
> Barry
> Silicon Valley
>
> Any others?
> Of course Homeland.
> And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers.
>
> I read the book years ago.  Book was dry and academic.  The TV show is
> pretty good.
>

Re: [AFMUG] florida bridge - check your harness

[castarritt .]

AvE did a youtube video with his community's theory/analysis.  The original
plans for installation showed the temporary supports under the bridge in
different locations vs where they were when it failed.  Also, you can see
one of the prestressing tendons sticking out of the collapsed structure
with the tensioning cylinder still attached.  AvE thinks someone got the
math wrong when they changed the location of the supports during
installation.  When they put too much stress on that tendon, it stretched.
Then, when sensors showed lower tension on that tendon, they tried to pull
it tight again, causing it to snap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtiTm2dKLgU

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:15 PM,  wrote:

> I am more interested in seeing what failed first.  Obviously that first
> section on the left.  Does the top fail or that first diagonal brace on the
> left fail first?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:36 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] florida bridge - check your harness
>
> http://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2018/03/21/
> 5265478035737719932/636x382_MP4_5265478035737719932.mp4
>
> watch the guy on top by the crane, hes tethered to it and his harness fails
>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Josh Luthman]

So you're comparing apples and oranges...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.
>
> No one is going to work for $400/month.   But I put that $400 towards the
> person's pay and now I have a person to do other things as well.
>
> On 3/26/18 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for
>> 400/mo.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > nternet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> You're missing my point.
>>
>> Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.
>>
>> But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
>> mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".
>>
>> BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the
>> support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring
>> someone -- who I can now use for other things.
>>
>> On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't
>> possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get
>> close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes
>> > 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>>  Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
>>  economic model.
>>
>>  I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
>>
>>  With a well running network support calls are near nothing.
>> I took
>>  the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have
>> people
>>  who do phones and other things.
>>
>>  On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman
>> 
>>  > >> wrote:
>>
>>  I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
>> words you
>>  should run your open tech support.
>>
>>  I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
>> just to
>>  have someone speak English that they can understand.
>> Until you get
>>  about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to
>> the cost
>>  that Lane can.
>>
>>  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
>> 
>>  > >> wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>> 
>>  > >
>>
>>  "IN-DE GO" :)
>>
>>  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
>>  > 
>>  > >> wrote:
>>
>>  It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go.
>> Like a
>>  butchered version of the six fingered man.
>>
>>  On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
>>  >  > >> wrote:
>>
>>  That's how it's pronounced...
>>
>>  Maybe a regional thing?
>>
>>  On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
>>  > 
>>  > >> wrote:
>>
>>  GTC does this too. I don’t know why
>> it’s so hard.
>>
>>  The company I used to work for was
>>  

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Matt Hoppes]

I just can’t let go of my baby. Maybe when we are at 5,000 subscribers. 

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 14:56, Andy Trimmell  wrote:
> 
> We use Serverplus for after hours and weekend support. It’s glorious.
>  
> Money well spent.
>  
>  
> Andy Trimmell
> Systems Engineer
> PDS Connect
> 317-831-3000
>  
>  
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:35 PM
> Cc: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>  
> I understand your point of view, I just made a different decision. I pay 
> ServerPlus to handle my support.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> To: af@afmug.com, "Mike Hammett" 
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:03:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
> 
> Wait... Mike... are we agreeing again?
> 
> On 3/26/18 1:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > You're still reading this wrong.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> > 
> > Midwest Internet Exchange 
> > 
> > The Brothers WISP 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> > *To: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> > *Cc: *af@afmug.com
> > *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 12:48:18 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
> > 
> > I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for 
> > 400/mo.
> > 
> > 
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> > 
> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> >  > > wrote:
> > 
> > You're missing my point.
> > 
> > Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.
> > 
> > But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
> > mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".
> > 
> > BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the
> > support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring
> > someone -- who I can now use for other things.
> > 
> > On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > 
> > Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't
> > possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get
> > close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...
> > 
> > 
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340 
> > Direct: 937-552-2343 
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> > 
> > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes
> >  > 
> >  > >> wrote:
> > 
> >  Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
> >  economic model.
> > 
> >  I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
> > 
> >  With a well running network support calls are near nothing.
> > I took
> >  the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have
> > people
> >  who do phones and other things.
> > 
> >  On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman
> > 
> >   > >> wrote:
> > 
> >  I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
> > words you
> >  should run your open tech support.
> > 
> >  I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
> > just to
> >  have someone speak English that they can understand.
> > Until you get
> >  about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to
> > the cost
> >  that Lane can.
> > 
> >  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
> > 
> >   > >> wrote:
> > 
> > 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Andy Trimmell]

We use Serverplus for after hours and weekend support. It’s glorious.

 

Money well spent.

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Systems Engineer

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:35 PM
Cc: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

 

I understand your point of view, I just made a different decision. I pay 
ServerPlus to handle my support.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions  
   
  
  
 
Midwest Internet Exchange  
   
  
 
The Brothers WISP  
  


 



From: "Matt Hoppes" 
To: af@afmug.com, "Mike Hammett" 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:03:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

Wait... Mike... are we agreeing again?

On 3/26/18 1:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> You're still reading this wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> *Cc: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 12:48:18 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
> 
> I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for 
> 400/mo.
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes 
>  > 
> wrote:
> 
> You're missing my point.
> 
> Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.
> 
> But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
> mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".
> 
> BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the
> support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring
> someone -- who I can now use for other things.
> 
> On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> 
> Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't
> possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get
> close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes
>  > 

>  > 
>> wrote:
> 
>  Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
>  economic model.
> 
>  I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
> 
>  With a well running network support calls are near nothing.
> I took
>  the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have
> people
>  who do phones and other things.
> 
>  On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman
>   >
>   > 
>> wrote:
> 
>  I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
> words you
>  should run your open tech support.
> 
>  I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
> just to
>  have someone speak English that they can understand.
> Until you 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Mike Hammett]

I understand your point of view, I just made a different decision. I pay 
ServerPlus to handle my support. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Matt Hoppes"  
To: af@afmug.com, "Mike Hammett"  
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:03:48 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 

Wait... Mike... are we agreeing again? 

On 3/26/18 1:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> You're still reading this wrong. 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions  
> 
>  
> Midwest Internet Exchange  
> 
>  
> The Brothers WISP  
>  
> 
> 
>  
>  
> *From: *"Josh Luthman"  
> *To: *"Matt Hoppes"  
> *Cc: *af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 12:48:18 PM 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 
> 
> I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for 
> 400/mo. 
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes 
>  > wrote: 
> 
> You're missing my point. 
> 
> Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week. 
> 
> But there are minimums with SP. Plus there are the calls that are 
> mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?". 
> 
> BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the 
> support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring 
> someone -- who I can now use for other things. 
> 
> On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
> 
> Sounds like you have too many support calls. I couldn't 
> possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get 
> close to my per call cost with ServerPlus... 
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> Office: 937-552-2340  
> Direct: 937-552-2343  
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>   
>  >> wrote: 
> 
> Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this 
> economic model. 
> 
> I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9. 
> 
> With a well running network support calls are near nothing. 
> I took 
> the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have 
> people 
> who do phones and other things. 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman 
>  
>  >> wrote: 
> 
> I would say that if you want local pronunciations of 
> words you 
> should run your open tech support. 
> 
> I don't think most people care. They are normally happy 
> just to 
> have someone speak English that they can understand. 
> Until you get 
> about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to 
> the cost 
> that Lane can. 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds 
>  
>  >> wrote: 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ 
>  
> 
> "IN-DE GO" :) 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
>   
>  >> wrote: 
> 
> It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. 
> Like a 
> butchered version of the six fingered man. 
> 
> On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds 
>    >> wrote: 
> 
> That's how it's pronounced... 
> 
> Maybe a regional thing? 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
>   
>  >> wrote: 
> 
> GTC does this too. I don’t know why 
> it’s so hard. 
> 
> The company I used to work for was 
> “Indigo Wireless”. 
> They always say In Dee Go. 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling 
> Jacobson 

Re: [AFMUG] wbmfg APC Surge Suppressor with Cambium Medusa?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Yes, the single blink seems like an overcurrent on port one.   The
questions I asked in the other thread might lead us to the cause.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:02 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> IIRC, 1 flash = port #1 is tripped. 20 seconds sounds like boot up and
> then RF initialization puts it over the edge. That's pretty odd since Chuck
> has tested the GigE modules over 1A per pair. But the SS is obviously
> clamping if the port is tripping.
>
> On 3/26/2018 9:54 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> I sent a request to the list last week, but I think it got eaten but the
> list monsters.
> Last week, I installed a Cambium Medusa at one of my sites, replacing a
> 450 AP. I removed the APC surge suppressor and put in a gige HV model for
> the Medusa. It fires up, pings for about 20 seconds and then the whole
> SyncInjector looks like it shuts down. I get a 1 blink error code.
> When I take the SS out of the equation, it works fine. The only thing that
> I can think of is that the switch is a 2960 Cisco 10/100 and it can't
> handle the auto negotiation?
>
> Basic layout of Network back to Switch is this:
> Medusa > Cat6 100' (Tested at 1gig) > WBMFG APC SS > Packet Flux Gig
> SyncInjector powered by Traco  DIN rail PSU > Data out to Cisco 2960.
> Medusa is getting Sync from Sync Box Jr at Antenna location via Aux port
> (UGPS power enabled)
>
> Thanks!
> Sam
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

[Bill Prince]

We see it the other way around. ;-)

bp


On 3/26/2018 10:42 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Buncha west coast hippies don't now how to tell time



-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Prince" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 3/26/2018 1:19:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

Almost 3 hours for me. Got here at 09:29; so about 2 hours and 59 
minutes before it was sent.


Sounds like time travel...


bp


On 3/26/2018 10:17 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:

It showed up 2 hours early for me!

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:


Yep it works

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:28 AM Paul McCall > wrote:

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway



Vero Beach, FL 32962



772-564-6800 

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 




--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/26/18 10:42 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Buncha west coast hippies don't now how to tell time



West time is best time.

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>
> How long of a wire?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
>> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>
>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>
>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>> before.
>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>> Medusa
>>>
>>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>>
 When this gets sent
 Sorry you are having difficulty.

 I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground
 fixes the problem.

 The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
 or
 Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
 timing stuff that I don’t understand.
 Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.

 Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just
 accumulating.

 *From:* Sam Lambie
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

 Yo smart folks,

 I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
 Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
 SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
 SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
 Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
 with the thing?
 Chuck, What say you?

 Sam

 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?

How long of a wire?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> When this gets sent
>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>
>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground
>>> fixes the problem.
>>>
>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>> or
>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
>>> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just
>>> accumulating.
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>
>>> Yo smart folks,
>>>
>>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
>>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
>>> with the thing?
>>> Chuck, What say you?
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Matt Hoppes]

Wait... Mike... are we agreeing again?

On 3/26/18 1:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

You're still reading this wrong.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Josh Luthman" 
*To: *"Matt Hoppes" 
*Cc: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 12:48:18 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for 
400/mo.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


You're missing my point.

Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.

But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".

BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the
support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring
someone -- who I can now use for other things.

On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't
possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get
close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes

>> wrote:

     Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
     economic model.

     I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.

     With a well running network support calls are near nothing.
I took
     the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have
people
     who do phones and other things.

     On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman

     >> wrote:

     I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
words you
     should run your open tech support.

     I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
just to
     have someone speak English that they can understand.
Until you get
     about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to
the cost
     that Lane can.

     On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds

     >> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
         

         "IN-DE GO" :)

         On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
         
         >> wrote:

             It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go.
Like a
             butchered version of the six fingered man.

             On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
              >> wrote:

             That's how it's pronounced...

             Maybe a regional thing?

             On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
             
             >> wrote:

                 GTC does this too. 

Re: [AFMUG] wbmfg APC Surge Suppressor with Cambium Medusa?

[George Skorup]

IIRC, 1 flash = port #1 is tripped. 20 seconds sounds like boot up and 
then RF initialization puts it over the edge. That's pretty odd since 
Chuck has tested the GigE modules over 1A per pair. But the SS is 
obviously clamping if the port is tripping.


On 3/26/2018 9:54 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
I sent a request to the list last week, but I think it got eaten but 
the list monsters.
Last week, I installed a Cambium Medusa at one of my sites, replacing 
a 450 AP. I removed the APC surge suppressor and put in a gige HV 
model for the Medusa. It fires up, pings for about 20 seconds and then 
the whole SyncInjector looks like it shuts down. I get a 1 blink error 
code.
When I take the SS out of the equation, it works fine. The only thing 
that I can think of is that the switch is a 2960 Cisco 10/100 and it 
can't handle the auto negotiation?


Basic layout of Network back to Switch is this:
Medusa > Cat6 100' (Tested at 1gig) > WBMFG APC SS > Packet Flux Gig 
SyncInjector powered by Traco  DIN rail PSU > Data out to Cisco 2960.
Medusa is getting Sync from Sync Box Jr at Antenna location via Aux 
port (UGPS power enabled)


Thanks!
Sam
--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Matt Hoppes]

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

No one is going to work for $400/month.   But I put that $400 towards 
the person's pay and now I have a person to do other things as well.


On 3/26/18 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for 
400/mo.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


You're missing my point.

Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.

But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".

BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the
support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring
someone -- who I can now use for other things.

On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't
possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get
close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes

>> wrote:

     Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
     economic model.

     I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.

     With a well running network support calls are near nothing.
I took
     the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have
people
     who do phones and other things.

     On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman

     >> wrote:

     I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
words you
     should run your open tech support.

     I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
just to
     have someone speak English that they can understand.
Until you get
     about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to
the cost
     that Lane can.

     On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds

     >> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ

         >

         "IN-DE GO" :)

         On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
         
         >> wrote:

             It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go.
Like a
             butchered version of the six fingered man.

             On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
              >> wrote:

             That's how it's pronounced...

             Maybe a regional thing?

             On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
             
             >> wrote:

                 GTC does this too. I don’t know why
it’s so hard.

                 The company I used to work for was
“Indigo Wireless”.
                 They always say In Dee Go.

                 On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling
Jacobson
                 
>>
                 wrote:

                 They are working well for us, and I
have a horrible
                 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Mike Hammett]

You're still reading this wrong. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Matt Hoppes"  
Cc: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:48:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 


I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for 400/mo. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes < 
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > wrote: 


You're missing my point. 

Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week. 

But there are minimums with SP. Plus there are the calls that are mis-directed 
that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?". 

BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the support (around 
the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring someone -- who I can now use 
for other things. 

On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 


Sounds like you have too many support calls. I couldn't possibly hire someone 
40 hours a week at minimum wage and get close to my per call cost with 
ServerPlus... 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes < 
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
wrote: 

Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this 
economic model. 

I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9. 

With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took 
the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people 
who do phones and other things. 

On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com 
> wrote: 



I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you 
should run your open tech support. 

I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to 
have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get 
about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost 
that Lane can. 

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com 
> wrote: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ 
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ > 

"IN-DE GO" :) 

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
< mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> wrote: 

It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a 
butchered version of the six fingered man. 

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds 
< j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 



That's how it's pronounced... 

Maybe a regional thing? 

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
< mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> wrote: 

GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. 

The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. 
They always say In Dee Go. 

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
< sterl...@avative.net > 
wrote: 



They are working well for us, and I have a horrible 
generic support DT, lol! 

__ __ 

I have had zero complaints from my customers so far 
this year, so I think they are doing well. 

__ __ 

The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our 
company name pronounced five different ways, even 
though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation. 

__ __ 

But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always 
confused on pronunciation themselves. 

__ __ 

__ __ 

*From:* Af < af-boun...@afmug.com 
> *On Behalf Of 
* ch...@wbmfg.com  
*Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM 
*To:* af@afmug.com  
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 

__ __ 

I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as 
the decision tree that you provide to him. The more 
detailed DT, the better the service will be.  

 

*From:*Layne Sisk  

*Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM 

*To:* af@afmug.com   

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 

 

I would like to share some solid stats with the 
group. Please see those below. The comment about a 
decline is hard to address without looking at 
stats. Kind of like the user that calls you and 
vaguely says “My internet seems slow” when you have 
stats that show they are getting more than they are 
paying for. We have hired a number of new people 
recently because we have grown and have added a new 
office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the 
year so we also took advantage of this time to get 
rid of some of our weaker performers. Here are the 
company wide stats for the past week with some 
comments about them, I would stack these up against 
any call center in the world. Sorry if I come on 
strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I 
care a lot about it just like you do about your 
networks. I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 
calls I am sure we made a mistake or two and I am 
happy to address any individual issue directly, but 
I am pretty proud of what we do.  

 

 

*_OFFICE STATS_* 



*__* 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Josh Luthman]

Oh I could go on and on :)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
wrote:

> What about Versailles?
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>
> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods
> (probably western third of the state)...
>
> It's Russia, not Russia.
> It's Piqua, not Piqua.
> It's Houston, not Houston.
> It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not know how to
>> pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into
>> knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Lewis Bergman 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>>
>> I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run
>> your open tech support.
>>
>> I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have
>> someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000
>> subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>>
>>> "IN-DE GO" :)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes <
>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
 It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version
 of the six fingered man.

 On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

 That's how it's pronounced...

 Maybe a regional thing?

 On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"  wrote:

> GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.
>
> The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say
> In Dee Go.
>
> On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support
> DT, lol!
>
>
>
> I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I
> think they are doing well.
>
>
>
> The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name
> pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper
> pronunciation.
>
>
>
> But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on
> pronunciation themselves.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
>
>
> I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree
> that you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service 
> will
> be.
>
>
>
> *From:* Layne Sisk
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
>
>
> I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see
> those below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without
> looking at stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says
> “My internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting
> more than they are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people
> recently because we have grown and have added a new office but as Justin
> said this is a slow time of the year so we also took advantage of this 
> time
> to get rid of some of our weaker performers.  Here are the company wide
> stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would stack these
> up against any call center in the world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but 
> as
> you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do
> about your networks.  I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am
> sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual
> issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Josh Luthman]

I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for
400/mo.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> You're missing my point.
>
> Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.
>
> But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
> mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".
>
> BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the support
> (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring someone -- who I
> can now use for other things.
>
> On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't possibly hire
>> someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get close to my per call cost
>> with ServerPlus...
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > nternet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
>> economic model.
>>
>> I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
>>
>> With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took
>> the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people
>> who do phones and other things.
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman > > wrote:
>>
>> I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you
>>> should run your open tech support.
>>>
>>> I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to
>>> have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get
>>> about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost
>>> that Lane can.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>> 
>>>
>>> "IN-DE GO" :)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a
>>> butchered version of the six fingered man.
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> That's how it's pronounced...

 Maybe a regional thing?

 On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
 > wrote:

 GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.

 The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”.
 They always say In Dee Go.

 On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson
 >
 wrote:

 They are working well for us, and I have a horrible
> generic support DT, lol!
>
> __ __
>
> I have had zero complaints from my customers so far
> this year, so I think they are doing well.
>
> __ __
>
> The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our
> company name pronounced five different ways, even
> though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation.
>
> __ __
>
> But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always
> confused on pronunciation themselves.
>
> __ __
>
> __ __
>
> *From:* Af  > *On Behalf Of
> *ch...@wbmfg.com 
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
> __ __
>
> I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as
> the decision tree that you provide to him.  The more
> detailed DT, the better the service will be. 
>
> 
>
> *From:*Layne Sisk 
>
> *Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM
>
> *To:*af@afmug.com 

Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

[Mathew Howard]

You guys are crazy, it was only one hour early...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Almost 3 hours for me. Got here at 09:29; so about 2 hours and 59 minutes
> before it was sent.
>
> Sounds like time travel...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/26/2018 10:17 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> It showed up 2 hours early for me!
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Jaime Solorza  > wrote:
>
>> Yep it works
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:28 AM Paul McCall  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, President
>>>
>>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>>
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> 
>>>
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> 
>>>
>>> 772-564-6800 <%28772%29%20564-6800>
>>>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>
>>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

[Adam Moffett]

Buncha west coast hippies don't now how to tell time



-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Prince" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/26/2018 1:19:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

Almost 3 hours for me. Got here at 09:29; so about 2 hours and 59 
minutes before it was sent.


Sounds like time travel...



bp



On 3/26/2018 10:17 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:

It showed up 2 hours early for me!

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

Yep it works

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:28 AM Paul McCall  wrote:





Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway 



Vero Beach, FL 32962 



772-564-6800 

pa...@pdmnet.net

www.pdmnet.com

www.floridabroadband.com









--
--
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

[Bill Prince]

Almost 3 hours for me. Got here at 09:29; so about 2 hours and 59 
minutes before it was sent.


Sounds like time travel...


bp


On 3/26/2018 10:17 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:

It showed up 2 hours early for me!

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:


Yep it works

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:28 AM Paul McCall > wrote:

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway



Vero Beach, FL 32962



772-564-6800 

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 




--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

[Sam Lambie]

It showed up 2 hours early for me!

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yep it works
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:28 AM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>> 
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>> 
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Adam Moffett]

I think there are maybe two different points being argued here, and 
they're both right.


It's unquestionably cheaper to outsource one tech support person versus 
hiring one tech support person.


In a tiny outfit it's also true that you don't hire a person for a 
single role.  There are a million functions to perform in a company, and 
if you hire someone for one function you are still left with 999,999 
things to do, and probably too much labor devoted to the one function.



-- Original Message --
From: "Matt Hoppes" 
To: af@afmug.com; "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: 3/26/2018 10:20:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


You're missing my point.

Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.

But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are 
mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".


BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the support 
(around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring someone -- who 
I can now use for other things.


On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't possibly hire 
someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get close to my per call 
cost with ServerPlus...



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


   Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
   economic model.

   I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.

   With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took
   the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people
   who do phones and other things.

   On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman > wrote:


   I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you
   should run your open tech support.

   I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to
   have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get
   about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost
   that Lane can.

   On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
   

   "IN-DE GO" :)

   On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
   > wrote:

   It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a
   butchered version of the six fingered man.

   On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
   > 
wrote:



   That's how it's pronounced...

   Maybe a regional thing?

   On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
   > wrote:

   GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.

   The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”.
   They always say In Dee Go.

   On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson
   >
   wrote:


   They are working well for us, and I have a horrible
   generic support DT, lol!

   __ __

   I have had zero complaints from my customers so far
   this year, so I think they are doing well.

   __ __

   The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our
   company name pronounced five different ways, even
   though the DT instructs the proper 
pronunciation.


   __ __

   But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always
   confused on pronunciation themselves.

   __ __

   __ __

   *From:* Af > *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com 
   *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
   *To:* af@afmug.com 
   *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

   __ __

   I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as
   the decision tree that you provide to him.  The more
   detailed DT, the better the service will be. 

   

   *From:*Layne Sisk 

   *Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

   *To:*af@afmug.com  

   *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

   

   I would like to share some solid stats with 

Re: [AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep it works

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:28 AM Paul McCall  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] TIME SENT 12:28pm

[Paul McCall]

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] SSH or Telnet script to check when a radio/sm is up?

[Cameron Crum]

If you didn't want the redirect, you could just write a quick firewall to
drop all traffic from the suspended list as well, but redirecting to a
portal is preferable in my view.

Cameron

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> thank you Cameron. I appreciate it!
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Cameron Crum 
> wrote:
>
>> Here is a MT script to set up the web proxy redirect. Obviously you will
>> need to change the urls in the last section under /ip proxy address. This
>> script takes anything in the 'suspended' address list and redirects port 80
>> traffic to whatever you put in place of myportal.com. You also need to
>> match the ip range at the bottom to whatever ip range you are handing out
>> to your customers. You can add as many of that last rule as you need to
>> cover all your ranges. As for the ssh script, it should be easy enough to
>> write a simple script to ssh in and launch one of these:
>>
>>  /ip firewall address-list add address=x.x.x.x list=suspended
>>
>> and to remove
>>
>> /ip firewall address-list remove [find address=x.x.x.x]
>>
>> The web proxy set up script is this (only run this one time, then move
>> all the rules to the top of their respective firewall sections):
>>
>>
>> add action=accept chain=input comment=\
>> "Allow Proxy - redirect suspended users - this and then next five
>> rules should be at the top of the filter list" disabled=no dst-port=16099 \
>> protocol=tcp
>> add action=jump chain=forward disabled=no jump-target=Suspended \
>> src-address-list=suspended
>> add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-port=443 protocol=tcp
>> add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no  \
>> dst-port=53 protocol=udp
>> add action=log chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-address-list=!PaymentGateway
>> limit=5/1m,10 log-prefix=""
>> add action=reject chain=Suspended disabled=no reject-with=\
>> icmp-admin-prohibited
>>
>> /ip firewall nat
>> add action=redirect chain=dstnat comment="Redirect Nat Rule for suspend
>> users - put this rule at the top of the list " disabled=no dst-port=80 \
>> protocol=tcp src-address-list=suspended to-ports=16099
>>
>> /ip proxy
>> set always-from-cache=no cache-administrator=webmaster cache-hit-dscp=4
>> cache-on-disk=no enabled=\
>> yes max-cache-size=none max-client-connections=600 max-fresh-time=3d
>> max-server-connections=\
>> 600 parent-proxy=0.0.0.0 parent-proxy-port=0 port=16099
>> serialize-connections=no src-address=\
>> 0.0.0.0
>> /ip proxy access
>> add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=mywebsite.com
>> add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=www.mywebsite.com
>> add action=deny disabled=no redirect-to=myportal.com src-address=\
>> x.x.x.x/24
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Sam Lambie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We are in the the process of going to MT. But now, plain ole Linksys
>>> e2500's.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Cameron Crum 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Are you using MT routers? I can show you a script to ssh to the router
 and move him to an address list that either redirects him through a web
 proxy or just drops all traffic.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> Has anyone used a script to check say every 5 minutes when an SM is up
> and make changes to it? If so, got an example?
>
> Ideally, I want to turn off the ethernet interface of the radio as the
> customer is a bum, but he keeps weird hours an I don't want to be glued to
> my seat checking when he is up.
> I know that I could just block is WAN IP, but this is something I am
> interested in and have never done.
> Thanks
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] SSH or Telnet script to check when a radio/sm is up?

[Sam Lambie]

thank you Cameron. I appreciate it!

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Here is a MT script to set up the web proxy redirect. Obviously you will
> need to change the urls in the last section under /ip proxy address. This
> script takes anything in the 'suspended' address list and redirects port 80
> traffic to whatever you put in place of myportal.com. You also need to
> match the ip range at the bottom to whatever ip range you are handing out
> to your customers. You can add as many of that last rule as you need to
> cover all your ranges. As for the ssh script, it should be easy enough to
> write a simple script to ssh in and launch one of these:
>
>  /ip firewall address-list add address=x.x.x.x list=suspended
>
> and to remove
>
> /ip firewall address-list remove [find address=x.x.x.x]
>
> The web proxy set up script is this (only run this one time, then move all
> the rules to the top of their respective firewall sections):
>
>
> add action=accept chain=input comment=\
> "Allow Proxy - redirect suspended users - this and then next five
> rules should be at the top of the filter list" disabled=no dst-port=16099 \
> protocol=tcp
> add action=jump chain=forward disabled=no jump-target=Suspended \
> src-address-list=suspended
> add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-port=443 protocol=tcp
> add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no  \
> dst-port=53 protocol=udp
> add action=log chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-address-list=!PaymentGateway
> limit=5/1m,10 log-prefix=""
> add action=reject chain=Suspended disabled=no reject-with=\
> icmp-admin-prohibited
>
> /ip firewall nat
> add action=redirect chain=dstnat comment="Redirect Nat Rule for suspend
> users - put this rule at the top of the list " disabled=no dst-port=80 \
> protocol=tcp src-address-list=suspended to-ports=16099
>
> /ip proxy
> set always-from-cache=no cache-administrator=webmaster cache-hit-dscp=4
> cache-on-disk=no enabled=\
> yes max-cache-size=none max-client-connections=600 max-fresh-time=3d
> max-server-connections=\
> 600 parent-proxy=0.0.0.0 parent-proxy-port=0 port=16099
> serialize-connections=no src-address=\
> 0.0.0.0
> /ip proxy access
> add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=mywebsite.com
> add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=www.mywebsite.com
> add action=deny disabled=no redirect-to=myportal.com src-address=\
> x.x.x.x/24
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> We are in the the process of going to MT. But now, plain ole Linksys
>> e2500's.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Cameron Crum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you using MT routers? I can show you a script to ssh to the router
>>> and move him to an address list that either redirects him through a web
>>> proxy or just drops all traffic.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Has anyone used a script to check say every 5 minutes when an SM is up
 and make changes to it? If so, got an example?

 Ideally, I want to turn off the ethernet interface of the radio as the
 customer is a bum, but he keeps weird hours an I don't want to be glued to
 my seat checking when he is up.
 I know that I could just block is WAN IP, but this is something I am
 interested in and have never done.
 Thanks
 Sam

 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] SSH or Telnet script to check when a radio/sm is up?

[Cameron Crum]

Here is a MT script to set up the web proxy redirect. Obviously you will
need to change the urls in the last section under /ip proxy address. This
script takes anything in the 'suspended' address list and redirects port 80
traffic to whatever you put in place of myportal.com. You also need to
match the ip range at the bottom to whatever ip range you are handing out
to your customers. You can add as many of that last rule as you need to
cover all your ranges. As for the ssh script, it should be easy enough to
write a simple script to ssh in and launch one of these:

 /ip firewall address-list add address=x.x.x.x list=suspended

and to remove

/ip firewall address-list remove [find address=x.x.x.x]

The web proxy set up script is this (only run this one time, then move all
the rules to the top of their respective firewall sections):


add action=accept chain=input comment=\
"Allow Proxy - redirect suspended users - this and then next five rules
should be at the top of the filter list" disabled=no dst-port=16099 \
protocol=tcp
add action=jump chain=forward disabled=no jump-target=Suspended \
src-address-list=suspended
add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-port=443 protocol=tcp
add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no  \
dst-port=53 protocol=udp
add action=log chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-address-list=!PaymentGateway
limit=5/1m,10 log-prefix=""
add action=reject chain=Suspended disabled=no reject-with=\
icmp-admin-prohibited

/ip firewall nat
add action=redirect chain=dstnat comment="Redirect Nat Rule for suspend
users - put this rule at the top of the list " disabled=no dst-port=80 \
protocol=tcp src-address-list=suspended to-ports=16099

/ip proxy
set always-from-cache=no cache-administrator=webmaster cache-hit-dscp=4
cache-on-disk=no enabled=\
yes max-cache-size=none max-client-connections=600 max-fresh-time=3d
max-server-connections=\
600 parent-proxy=0.0.0.0 parent-proxy-port=0 port=16099
serialize-connections=no src-address=\
0.0.0.0
/ip proxy access
add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=mywebsite.com
add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=www.mywebsite.com
add action=deny disabled=no redirect-to=myportal.com src-address=\
x.x.x.x/24






On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> We are in the the process of going to MT. But now, plain ole Linksys
> e2500's.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:
>
>> Are you using MT routers? I can show you a script to ssh to the router
>> and move him to an address list that either redirects him through a web
>> proxy or just drops all traffic.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Sam Lambie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone used a script to check say every 5 minutes when an SM is up
>>> and make changes to it? If so, got an example?
>>>
>>> Ideally, I want to turn off the ethernet interface of the radio as the
>>> customer is a bum, but he keeps weird hours an I don't want to be glued to
>>> my seat checking when he is up.
>>> I know that I could just block is WAN IP, but this is something I am
>>> interested in and have never done.
>>> Thanks
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] SSH or Telnet script to check when a radio/sm is up?

[Sam Lambie]

We are in the the process of going to MT. But now, plain ole Linksys
e2500's.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Are you using MT routers? I can show you a script to ssh to the router and
> move him to an address list that either redirects him through a web proxy
> or just drops all traffic.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used a script to check say every 5 minutes when an SM is up
>> and make changes to it? If so, got an example?
>>
>> Ideally, I want to turn off the ethernet interface of the radio as the
>> customer is a bum, but he keeps weird hours an I don't want to be glued to
>> my seat checking when he is up.
>> I know that I could just block is WAN IP, but this is something I am
>> interested in and have never done.
>> Thanks
>> Sam
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Sam Lambie]

Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power Port.
I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:

> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>
> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>
> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I didn't
> reboot it while the card was floating.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>
>> When this gets sent
>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>
>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground
>> fixes the problem.
>>
>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>> or
>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
>> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>
>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just
>> accumulating.
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> Yo smart folks,
>>
>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
>> with the thing?
>> Chuck, What say you?
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] SSH or Telnet script to check when a radio/sm is up?

[Cameron Crum]

Are you using MT routers? I can show you a script to ssh to the router and
move him to an address list that either redirects him through a web proxy
or just drops all traffic.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Has anyone used a script to check say every 5 minutes when an SM is up and
> make changes to it? If so, got an example?
>
> Ideally, I want to turn off the ethernet interface of the radio as the
> customer is a bum, but he keeps weird hours an I don't want to be glued to
> my seat checking when he is up.
> I know that I could just block is WAN IP, but this is something I am
> interested in and have never done.
> Thanks
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[chuck]

OK, so grounds are related to the problem.  

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is causing 
the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.  

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.  


From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I didn't 
reboot it while the card was floating.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:

  When this gets sent
  Sorry you are having difficulty.

  I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground fixes 
the problem.

  The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
  or
  Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new timing 
stuff that I don’t understand.  
  Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.

  Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just 
accumulating.

  From: Sam Lambie 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

  Yo smart folks, 

  I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium Medusa 
today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux SyncInjector 
shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the SyncInjector and it 
worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via Aux Jr) and Power- Data. 
I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work with the thing?
  Chuck, What say you?

  Sam


  -- 

  -- 
  Sam Lambie
  Taosnet Wireless Tech.
  575-758-7598 Office
  www.Taosnet.com




-- 

-- 
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Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com

[AFMUG] SSH or Telnet script to check when a radio/sm is up?

[Sam Lambie]

Has anyone used a script to check say every 5 minutes when an SM is up and
make changes to it? If so, got an example?

Ideally, I want to turn off the ethernet interface of the radio as the
customer is a bum, but he keeps weird hours an I don't want to be glued to
my seat checking when he is up.
I know that I could just block is WAN IP, but this is something I am
interested in and have never done.
Thanks
Sam

-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

What about Versailles?

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> 
> Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods 
> (probably western third of the state)...
> 
> It's Russia, not Russia.
> It's Piqua, not Piqua.
> It's Houston, not Houston.
> It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not know how to 
>> pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into 
>> knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Lewis Bergman
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>> 
>> I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run 
>> your open tech support.
>> 
>> I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone 
>> speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I 
>> doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>> 
>>> "IN-DE GO" :)
>>> 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
  wrote:
 It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of 
 the six fingered man. 
 
> On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> That's how it's pronounced...
> 
> Maybe a regional thing?
> 
> On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
>  wrote:
>> GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. 
>> 
>> The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In 
>> Dee Go. 
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, 
>>> lol!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I 
>>> think they are doing well.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name 
>>> pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper 
>>> pronunciation.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on 
>>> pronunciation themselves.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree 
>>> that you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service 
>>> will be. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Layne Sisk
>>> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM
>>> 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see 
>>> those below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without 
>>> looking at stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  
>>> says “My internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are 
>>> getting more than they are paying for.  We have hired a number of new 
>>> people recently because we have grown and have added a new office but 
>>> as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took 
>>> advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker  
>>> performers.  Here are the company wide stats for the past week with 
>>> some comments about them, I would stack these up against any call 
>>> center in the world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know 
>>> this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do about your 
>>> networks.  I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we 
>>> made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual issue 
>>> directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> OFFICE STATS
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> SP
>>> 
>>> GOAL
>>> 
>>> Comment
>>> 
>>> AVERAGE TALK TIME
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 0:11:05
>>> 
>>> 0:10:00
>>> 
>>> Down from over 13 min 2 months ago
>>> 
>>>   TOTAL TALK TIME VS 

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Sam Lambie]

I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I didn't
reboot it while the card was floating.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:

> When this gets sent
> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>
> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground
> fixes the problem.
>
> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
> or
> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>
> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just
> accumulating.
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> Yo smart folks,
>
> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
> with the thing?
> Chuck, What say you?
>
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Sam Lambie]

Traco  TSP 600-148

1 radio. Planning on 4 Radios Soon.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> What power supplies are you using with the medusa?  How many radios?
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 6:10 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Yo smart folks,
>>
>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
>> with the thing?
>> Chuck, What say you?
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

[AFMUG] wbmfg APC Surge Suppressor with Cambium Medusa?

[Sam Lambie]

I sent a request to the list last week, but I think it got eaten but the
list monsters.
Last week, I installed a Cambium Medusa at one of my sites, replacing a 450
AP. I removed the APC surge suppressor and put in a gige HV model for the
Medusa. It fires up, pings for about 20 seconds and then the whole
SyncInjector looks like it shuts down. I get a 1 blink error code.
When I take the SS out of the equation, it works fine. The only thing that
I can think of is that the switch is a 2960 Cisco 10/100 and it can't
handle the auto negotiation?

Basic layout of Network back to Switch is this:
Medusa > Cat6 100' (Tested at 1gig) > WBMFG APC SS > Packet Flux Gig
SyncInjector powered by Traco  DIN rail PSU > Data out to Cisco 2960.
Medusa is getting Sync from Sync Box Jr at Antenna location via Aux port
(UGPS power enabled)

Thanks!
Sam
-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

[AFMUG] Does anyone Service the Greater Wilmington, NC area?

[Nate Burke]

A radio station engineer we've worked with for years is moving somewhere 
around Wilmington, NC and was wondering what his WISP options are for 
his house (which is not located yet), but most likely will be rural 
probably 20-30 min away from Wilmington.  This appears to be a somewhat 
mountainous area, he is well familiar with how the RF Propagates and 
will depend on where towers are at if he can get connection.  Apparently 
there is a 'Wisp Salon & Spa' in Wilmington, so Google is skewed with 
those results.


Let me know if you're around there, and I'll send your info over to him.

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Matt Hoppes]

You're missing my point.

Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.

But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are 
mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".


BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the support 
(around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring someone -- who 
I can now use for other things.


On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't possibly hire 
someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get close to my per call 
cost with ServerPlus...



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this
economic model.

I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.

With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took
the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people
who do phones and other things.

On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman > wrote:


I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you
should run your open tech support.

I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to
have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get
about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost
that Lane can.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ


"IN-DE GO" :)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
> wrote:

It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a
butchered version of the six fingered man.

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
> wrote:


That's how it's pronounced...

Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
> wrote:

GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.

The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”.
They always say In Dee Go.

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson
>
wrote:


They are working well for us, and I have a horrible
generic support DT, lol!

__ __

I have had zero complaints from my customers so far
this year, so I think they are doing well.

__ __

The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our
company name pronounced five different ways, even
though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation.

__ __

But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always
confused on pronunciation themselves.

__ __

__ __

*From:* Af > *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

__ __

I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as
the decision tree that you provide to him.  The more
detailed DT, the better the service will be. 



*From:*Layne Sisk 

*Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com  

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



I would like to share some solid stats with the
group.  Please see those below.  The comment about a
decline is hard to address without looking at
stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and
vaguely  says “My internet seems slow” when you have
stats that show they are getting more than they are
paying for.  We have hired a number of new people
recently because we have grown and have added a new
office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the
year so we also took advantage of this time to get

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Mike Hammett]

His point is that he doesn't have dedicated support staff, but staff that do 
other things while not taking support calls. Your ServerPlus agents aren't 
going to be unboxing radios or whatever when calls aren't coming in. 

That said, I still prefer ServerPlus. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:15:40 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 


Sounds like you have too many support calls. I couldn't possibly hire someone 
40 hours a week at minimum wage and get close to my per call cost with 
ServerPlus... 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes < 
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > wrote: 





Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this economic model. 


I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9. 


With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took the money I 
was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people who do phones and other 
things. 

On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 




I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your 
open tech support. 


I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone 
speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt 
you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can. 



On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ 


"IN-DE GO" :) 



On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes < 
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > wrote: 







It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the 
six fingered man. 

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 





That's how it's pronounced... 


Maybe a regional thing? 


On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
wrote: 







GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. 


The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In Dee 
Go. 

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net > wrote: 






They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol! 

I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they 
are doing well. 

The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name pronounced five 
different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation. 

But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation 
themselves. 




From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 




I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree that you 
provide to him. The more detailed DT, the better the service will be. 






From: Layne Sisk 

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 



I would like to share some solid stats with the group. Please see those below. 
The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats. Kind 
of like the user that calls you and vaguely says “My internet seems slow” when 
you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for. We 
have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added 
a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took 
advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers. Here are 
the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would 
stack these up against any call center in the world. Sorry if I come on strong, 
but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do 
about your networks. I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we 
made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, 
but I am pretty proud of what we do. 



OFFICE STATS




SP  
GOAL
Comment 

AVERAGE TALK TIME   




0:11:05 
0:10:00 
Down from over 13 min 2 months ago 

TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED




69.94%  
80% 
This is agent utilization 

SURVEY SCORE




91.66%  
95% 
91.66% of callers would recommend the service That is a number any company 
would kill for 

SURVEY TAKEN




20.57%  
20% 
A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of 

TECH ESCALATION 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Josh Luthman]

Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods
(probably western third of the state)...

It's Russia, not Russia.
It's Piqua, not Piqua.
It's Houston, not Houston.
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not know how to
> pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into
> knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Lewis Bergman 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
> I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run
> your open tech support.
>
> I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have
> someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000
> subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>
>> "IN-DE GO" :)
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes > rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version
>>> of the six fingered man.
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>>
>>> That's how it's pronounced...
>>>
>>> Maybe a regional thing?
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" >> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
 GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.

 The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say
 In Dee Go.

 On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
 wrote:

 They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT,
 lol!



 I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I
 think they are doing well.



 The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name
 pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper
 pronunciation.



 But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on
 pronunciation themselves.





 *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



 I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree
 that you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service will
 be.



 *From:* Layne Sisk

 *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



 I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see
 those below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without
 looking at stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says
 “My internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting
 more than they are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people
 recently because we have grown and have added a new office but as Justin
 said this is a slow time of the year so we also took advantage of this time
 to get rid of some of our weaker performers.  Here are the company wide
 stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would stack these
 up against any call center in the world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but as
 you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do
 about your networks.  I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am
 sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual
 issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do.





 *OFFICE STATS*









 *SP*

 *GOAL*

 *Comment*

 *AVERAGE TALK TIME*









 0:11:05

 0:10:00

 Down from over 13 min 2 months ago

 *  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED*









 69.94%

 80%

 This is agent utilization

 *SURVEY SCORE*









 91.66%

 95%

 91.66% of callers would recommend the service That  is a number any
 company would kill for

 *SURVEY TAKEN*









 20.57%

 20%

 A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of

 *TECH ESCALATION*









 39.31%

 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Josh Luthman]

Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't possibly hire
someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get close to my per call cost
with ServerPlus...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this economic
> model.
>
> I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
>
> With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took the
> money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people who do
> phones and other things.
>
> On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
>
> I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run
> your open tech support.
>
> I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have
> someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000
> subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>
>> "IN-DE GO" :)
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes > rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version
>>> of the six fingered man.
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>>
>>> That's how it's pronounced...
>>>
>>> Maybe a regional thing?
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" >> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
 GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.

 The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say
 In Dee Go.

 On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
 wrote:

 They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT,
 lol!



 I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I
 think they are doing well.



 The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name
 pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper
 pronunciation.



 But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on
 pronunciation themselves.





 *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



 I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree
 that you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service will
 be.



 *From:* Layne Sisk

 *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



 I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see
 those below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without
 looking at stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says
 “My internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting
 more than they are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people
 recently because we have grown and have added a new office but as Justin
 said this is a slow time of the year so we also took advantage of this time
 to get rid of some of our weaker performers.  Here are the company wide
 stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would stack these
 up against any call center in the world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but as
 you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do
 about your networks.  I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am
 sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual
 issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do.





 *OFFICE STATS*









 *SP*

 *GOAL*

 *Comment*

 *AVERAGE TALK TIME*









 0:11:05

 0:10:00

 Down from over 13 min 2 months ago

 *  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED*









 69.94%

 80%

 This is agent utilization

 *SURVEY SCORE*









 91.66%

 95%

 91.66% of callers would recommend the service That  is a number any
 company would kill for

 *SURVEY TAKEN*









 20.57%

 20%

 A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of

 *TECH ESCALATION*









 39.31%

 20%

 Higher escalation percentage this week 

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

What power supplies are you using with the medusa?  How many radios?

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 6:10 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Yo smart folks,
>
> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
> with the thing?
> Chuck, What say you?
>
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Cameron Crum]

Large corporations I have worked for in the past have always put at least a
1.5x multiplier on employees. Many would do 2. I'm talking big companies
like Flour, Lucent, and Agilent. You can bet they have that stuff down. If
you think a $10/hr guy, for example, is only costing you $400/week, I think
you are in for a surprise.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> I want to have a picnic
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Matt Hoppes 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
> Eh. You’re putting a price on well being and moral.
>
> Picnics. PTO. Bonus. Profit Sharing.
>
> I do those things because I want my employees to be happy and not have to
> worry so much about living.
>
> It makes them much more profitable at the office.
>
> We give unlimited time off with required two weeks off a year.
>
> Picnics and parties are just part of the moral boosting.
>
> My office workers don’t have a vehicle - there is a shared one that is
> used when someone goes out.
>
> And we cross train. We are too small to silo.
>
> The CEO does billing calls and my billing gals pull ropes at the towers
> and run cable at installs.
>
> I get what you are saying - but to me those things average out across
> employees.
>
> On Mar 25, 2018, at 19:17, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> FICA
> FUTA (Fed Unemployment)
> SUTA (State Unemployment)
> Workers' Comp
> G/L Insurance
> Health
> PTO
> Holiday
> Picnics, Parties
> Tool/Gas/Vehicle
> Company Meetings
> Training/Education
> Cell/Mobile/Internet
> Vehicle Fuel/Maint./Insurance
> Miscellaneous
> Profit Share/Pension/401k
> Additional Bonus
>
> If you are honest with the above figures, you come out at a cost that is
> almost always twice the pay rate.
>
> *From:* Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
> How do you get that Chuck?
>
> Assuming taxes and all that?
>
> On Mar 25, 2018, at 18:54, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> I just re-did my labor burden spreadsheet.  Once again I proved to my self
> that if you pay someone $15/hour it actually costs you $30.
>
> $400/week out of pocket expense means an effective pay rate of $5/hour.
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:47 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
> What kind of employee are you getting for $400/week?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:46:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
> Depending on call volume somewhere on the neighborhood of $250-$400/month.
>
> That pays a weeks wage for an employee who can now also do other things.
>
> On Mar 25, 2018, at 17:50, Steve Jones  wrote:
>
> How much were you planning on paying serverplus?
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:44 PM Matt Hoppes  rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this economic
>> model.
>>
>> I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
>>
>> With a well running network support calls are near nothing. I took the
>> money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have people who do
>> phones and other things.
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
>>
>> I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run
>> your open tech support.
>>
>> I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have
>> someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000
>> subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>>
>>> "IN-DE GO" :)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes >> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
 It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version
 of the six fingered man.

 On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

 That's how it's pronounced...

 Maybe a regional thing?

 On Mar 11, 

Re: [AFMUG] More important things

[Chuck McCown]

++1

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
> 
> Billions is awesome
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:30 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Homeland tonightwow
>> Just when you think they've done it allto put Carrie in those 
>> situations...
>> 
>> Or heck to let Carrie put herself in those situations..
>> 
>> Sent from my smartphone
>> 
>> - Reply message -
>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>> To: 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] More important things
>> Date: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 5:08 PM
>> 
>> So tonight is big for TV.
>> Billions
>> Barry
>> Silicon Valley
>>  
>> Any others?
>> Of course Homeland.
>> And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers.
>>  
>> I read the book years ago.  Book was dry and academic.  The TV show is 
>> pretty good.  
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Adam Moffett]

You have a point there.  LTE comes with a lot of baggage that nobody 
wants.  I don't want "LTE" specifically, I just want it to work with few 
trees in the way.


I'm sure they thought of that and have their reasons.


-- Original Message --
From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/25/2018 8:04:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why 
not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies 
of LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this 
ended up.


Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] More important things

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

15 min into it nowi should sleep 

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck Hogg" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] More important things
Date: Mon, Mar 26, 2018 1:48 AM

Billions is awesome

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:30 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:



Homeland tonightwow
Just when you think they've done it allto put Carrie in those situations...

Or heck to let Carrie put herself in those situations..

Sent from my smartphone




- Reply message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] More important things
Date: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 5:08 PM










So tonight is big for TV.

Billions

Barry 

Silicon Valley

 

Any others?

Of course Homeland.

And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers.

 

I read the book years ago.  Book was dry and academic.  The TV 
show is pretty good. 

Re: [AFMUG] More important things

[Chuck Hogg]

Billions is awesome


Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:30 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> Homeland tonightwow
> Just when you think they've done it allto put Carrie in those
> situations...
>
> Or heck to let Carrie put herself in those situations..
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: 
> Subject: [AFMUG] More important things
> Date: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 5:08 PM
>
> So tonight is big for TV.
> Billions
> Barry
> Silicon Valley
>
> Any others?
> Of course Homeland.
> And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers.
>
> I read the book years ago.  Book was dry and academic.  The TV show is
> pretty good.
>

Re: [AFMUG] More important things

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Homeland tonightwow
Just when you think they've done it allto put Carrie in those situations...

Or heck to let Carrie put herself in those situations..

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] More important things
Date: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 5:08 PM

So tonight is big for TV.
Billions
Barry 
Silicon Valley

Any others?
Of course Homeland.
And if like Homeland, you will probably also like The Looming Towers.

I read the book years ago.  Book was dry and academic.  The TV 
show is pretty good.

Re: [AFMUG] More important things

[Bill Prince]

One word: Credible.

bp


On 3/25/2018 5:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Share the summary please.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2018, at 6:36 PM, Bill Prince > wrote:



I got the DVR queued up for that one.�� ;-)

bp


On 3/25/2018 5:07 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

Stormy Daniels� lol�

From: Af > on 
behalf of Chuck McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >

Date: Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 6:08 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " >

Subject: [AFMUG] More important things

So tonight is big for TV.
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