Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-03 Thread Rory Conaway
I’ve got 100 senior citizens using Roku.  It’s the easiest one but only after 
you set the channel up on your computer. That’s what hangs up most of them.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

Really?  I thought Roku was the worst interface.  My parents inability to use 
it concurred with that.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Jeremy 
jeremysmi...@gmail.commailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't seen this, and have never had an issue with our Samsung SmartTV.  
However, we mostly use the Roku, as the interface is much better.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Caleb Knauer 
cknauer.li...@gmail.commailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote:
I've seen literally hundreds of Roku's in use in my adventures lately and they 
work well. Plus the remote is easy to use which is a huge plus for our user 
base.


On Monday, March 2, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.commailto:af...@kwisp.com 
wrote:
Interesting approach.  I have been wondering if the Rokus are more reliable 
than the hodgepodge of devices that customers buy for another reason and then 
use to stream video.  Sounds like you give them a big thumbs up.

It's another device that customers can't pronounce though.  I've had customers 
tell me they have a Rock-You or a Ruko.


-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:58 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs
This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a
free roku (basic model, 720p).

It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our
customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.

We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from
another provider and install the roku.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that are 
causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix but 
Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression is buggy apps or 
updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone tells the customer it's their 
Internet.

I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that should 
affect everything, not just one app.

I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I know 
they will just point the finger back at the ISP.





Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-03 Thread Jeremy
I haven't seen this, and have never had an issue with our Samsung SmartTV.
However, we mostly use the Roku, as the interface is much better.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I've seen literally hundreds of Roku's in use in my adventures lately and
 they work well. Plus the remote is easy to use which is a huge plus for our
 user base.


 On Monday, March 2, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 Interesting approach.  I have been wondering if the Rokus are more
 reliable than the hodgepodge of devices that customers buy for another
 reason and then use to stream video.  Sounds like you give them a big
 thumbs up.

 It's another device that customers can't pronounce though.  I've had
 customers tell me they have a Rock-You or a Ruko.


 -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:58 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

 This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a
 free roku (basic model, 720p).

 It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our
 customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.

 We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from
 another provider and install the roku.

 --
 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTS
 www.spitwspots.com

 On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc.
 that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

 Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch
 Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression is
 buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone tells the
 customer it's their Internet.

 I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that
 should affect everything, not just one app.

 I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because
 I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.






Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Really?  I thought Roku was the worst interface.  My parents inability to
use it concurred with that.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't seen this, and have never had an issue with our Samsung
 SmartTV.  However, we mostly use the Roku, as the interface is much better.

 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've seen literally hundreds of Roku's in use in my adventures lately and
 they work well. Plus the remote is easy to use which is a huge plus for our
 user base.


 On Monday, March 2, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 Interesting approach.  I have been wondering if the Rokus are more
 reliable than the hodgepodge of devices that customers buy for another
 reason and then use to stream video.  Sounds like you give them a big
 thumbs up.

 It's another device that customers can't pronounce though.  I've had
 customers tell me they have a Rock-You or a Ruko.


 -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:58 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

 This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a
 free roku (basic model, 720p).

 It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our
 customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.

 We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from
 another provider and install the roku.

 --
 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTS
 www.spitwspots.com

 On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc.
 that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

 Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch
 Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression is
 buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone tells the
 customer it's their Internet.

 I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that
 should affect everything, not just one app.

 I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc.
 because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.







Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-03 Thread Seth Mattinen

On 3/3/15 12:03, Josh Luthman wrote:

But has the interface changed?




Yeah, it's been like 7 years.

~Seth


Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
I don't know what it looked like before, but if you google/image roku 
interface you'll see what it looks like.


--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/03/2015 11:03 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

But has the interface changed?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us 
mailto:se...@rollernet.us wrote:


On 3/3/15 11:45, Josh Luthman wrote:

It was an original Roku, I think.  You add the channels and
such from
the website but on the tv you go left/right through them and then
specify the channel and then which content inside of it.



The original was 2008, they're on their third generation now.

~Seth






Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-03 Thread Greg Osborn
Nowhere close to that now.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

 

This is what I remember: 
http://www5.pcmag.com/media/images/266683-roku-2-xs-interface-menu.jpg




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com  wrote:

I don't know what it looked like before, but if you google/image roku 
interface you'll see what it looks like.



--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com 

On 03/03/2015 11:03 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

But has the interface changed?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us 
mailto:se...@rollernet.us  wrote:

On 3/3/15 11:45, Josh Luthman wrote:

It was an original Roku, I think.  You add the channels and such from
the website but on the tv you go left/right through them and then
specify the channel and then which content inside of it.



The original was 2008, they're on their third generation now.

~Seth

 

 

 



Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-03 Thread Rory Conaway
There are two products that we recommend without any hesitation, Roku and Ooma. 
 Never have a problem with either.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

This is what I remember: 
http://www5.pcmag.com/media/images/266683-roku-2-xs-interface-menu.jpg


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Josh Reynolds 
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
I don't know what it looked like before, but if you google/image roku 
interface you'll see what it looks like.


--

Josh Reynolds

CIO, SPITwSPOTS

www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
On 03/03/2015 11:03 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
But has the interface changed?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Seth Mattinen 
se...@rollernet.usmailto:se...@rollernet.us wrote:
On 3/3/15 11:45, Josh Luthman wrote:
It was an original Roku, I think.  You add the channels and such from
the website but on the tv you go left/right through them and then
specify the channel and then which content inside of it.


The original was 2008, they're on their third generation now.

~Seth





Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Josh Reynolds

$250/no contract or less than 4Mbps

$100 setup, 2 year contract, 4Mbps or higher (if they cancel early they 
pay the remainder of the $250 setup, in this case $150)


$0 setup, 2 year contract, 10Mbps or higher (if they cancel early they 
pay the remainder of the $250 setup, in this case $250)


Our WISP competition is slightly cheaper than us per month, but does a 
$500/3 year cancellation fee. (We are roughly 3x larger than them as well)


Our setups cost us a lot due to the terrain and conditions here, roughly 
$450 off the top of my head for about half the installs (tripod on roof, 
5 ft pole, rocket + rocket dish, 2 man crew). The other half of our 
setups are UBAMs and NanoBridges, so those are cheaper.


ARPU/mo out here is roughly $86/mo.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 12:21 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Josh -

What do you typically charge customers for an install?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:


Roku LT, and now that it's EOL, the streaming stick.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 11:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

Which model Josh?   We have had some Roku models try and
become WiFi repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the
device connects to the router on.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract
renewals) a free roku (basic model, 720p).

It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This
gives our customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.

We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they
switch from another provider and install the roku.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix,
Pandora, etc.
that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I
can watch
Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My
impression
is buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course
everyone
tells the customer it's their Internet.

I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi
routers, but that
should affect everything, not just one app.

I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or
Netflix/Pandora/etc.
because I know they will just point the finger back at the
ISP.







Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Glen Waldrop
I recently had to deal with a Samsung problem for the cable company I consult 
for.

Turns out Samsung had a server outage that affected the D and E models if 
memory serves.

Of course it had to happen the very same day the cable plant made some fairly 
large changes (last Tuesday), so it took a little digging to track down the 
problem.



From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

$250/no contract or less than 4Mbps

$100 setup, 2 year contract, 4Mbps or higher (if they cancel early they pay the 
remainder of the $250 setup, in this case $150)

$0 setup, 2 year contract, 10Mbps or higher (if they cancel early they pay the 
remainder of the $250 setup, in this case $250)

Our WISP competition is slightly cheaper than us per month, but does a $500/3 
year cancellation fee. (We are roughly 3x larger than them as well)

Our setups cost us a lot due to the terrain and conditions here, roughly $450 
off the top of my head for about half the installs (tripod on roof, 5 ft pole, 
rocket + rocket dish, 2 man crew). The other half of our setups are UBAMs and 
NanoBridges, so those are cheaper.

ARPU/mo out here is roughly $86/mo.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 03/02/2015 12:21 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

  Josh - 

  What do you typically charge customers for an install?

  On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

Roku LT, and now that it's EOL, the streaming stick.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com


On 03/02/2015 11:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

  Which model Josh?   We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi 
repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the router on.

  Paul

  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
  Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

  This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a 
free roku (basic model, 720p).

  It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our 
customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.

  We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from 
another provider and install the roku.

  --
  Josh Reynolds
  CIO, SPITwSPOTS
  www.spitwspots.com

  On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc.
that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch
Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression
is buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone
tells the customer it's their Internet.

I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that
should affect everything, not just one app.

I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc.
because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.








Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Jason McKemie
Josh -

What do you typically charge customers for an install?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 Roku LT, and now that it's EOL, the streaming stick.

 --
 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTS
 www.spitwspots.com

 On 03/02/2015 11:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

 Which model Josh?   We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi
 repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the
 router on.

 Paul

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

 This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a
 free roku (basic model, 720p).

 It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our
 customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.

 We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from
 another provider and install the roku.

 --
 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTS
 www.spitwspots.com

 On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc.
 that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

 Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch
 Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression
 is buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone
 tells the customer it's their Internet.

 I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that
 should affect everything, not just one app.

 I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc.
 because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.





Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller


I suggest you call your ISP.  /sarcasm

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ken Hohhof 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:53 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs


  Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that 
  are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

  Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix 
  but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression is buggy apps 
  or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone tells the customer it's 
  their Internet.

  I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that 
  should affect everything, not just one app.

  I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I 
  know they will just point the finger back at the ISP. 



Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Paul McCall
Which model Josh?   We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi 
repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the router 
on.  

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a free 
roku (basic model, 720p).

It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our customers 
a superior impression of us as an ISP.

We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from another 
provider and install the roku.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
 Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. 
 that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

 Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch 
 Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression 
 is buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone 
 tells the customer it's their Internet.

 I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that 
 should affect everything, not just one app.

 I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. 
 because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.




Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Josh Reynolds

It's a bit easier to say that Amazon Fire TV HD or Amazon Fire TV Stick

(Both are equal in streaming ability to the Roku and Roku stick BTW.)

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 11:23 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Interesting approach.  I have been wondering if the Rokus are more 
reliable than the hodgepodge of devices that customers buy for another 
reason and then use to stream video. Sounds like you give them a big 
thumbs up.


It's another device that customers can't pronounce though.  I've had 
customers tell me they have a Rock-You or a Ruko.



-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a
free roku (basic model, 720p).

It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our
customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.

We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from
another provider and install the roku.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, 
etc. that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?


Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch 
Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression 
is buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone 
tells the customer it's their Internet.


I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but 
that should affect everything, not just one app.


I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. 
because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.









Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Josh Reynolds

Roku LT, and now that it's EOL, the streaming stick.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 11:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

Which model Josh?   We have had some Roku models try and become WiFi 
repeaters on the same 2.4 Ghz channel as the device connects to the router on.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a free 
roku (basic model, 720p).

It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our customers 
a superior impression of us as an ISP.

We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from another 
provider and install the roku.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc.
that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?

Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch
Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression
is buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone
tells the customer it's their Internet.

I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that
should affect everything, not just one app.

I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc.
because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.





[AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. that 
are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?


Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix 
but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression is buggy apps 
or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone tells the customer it's 
their Internet.


I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that 
should affect everything, not just one app.


I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I 
know they will just point the finger back at the ISP. 





Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a 
free roku (basic model, 720p).


It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our 
customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.


We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from 
another provider and install the roku.


--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. 
that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?


Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch 
Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression 
is buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone 
tells the customer it's their Internet.


I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that 
should affect everything, not just one app.


I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. 
because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.






Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Bill Prince
Maybe you have to carry a smart TV in the back of the truck to test for 
functionality?


Of course, if the problem is the internet, that can only be the ISP.  
Right?


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/2/2015 11:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. 
that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?


Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch 
Netflix but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression 
is buggy apps or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone 
tells the customer it's their Internet.


I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that 
should affect everything, not just one app.


I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. 
because I know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.






Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

2015-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Interesting approach.  I have been wondering if the Rokus are more reliable 
than the hodgepodge of devices that customers buy for another reason and 
then use to stream video.  Sounds like you give them a big thumbs up.


It's another device that customers can't pronounce though.  I've had 
customers tell me they have a Rock-You or a Ruko.



-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung smart TVs

This is one reason we give all new customers (and contract renewals) a
free roku (basic model, 720p).

It is one of the best streaming devices on the market. This gives our
customers a superior impression of us as an ISP.

We get a lot of happy comments about our service after they switch from
another provider and install the roku.

--
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 03/02/2015 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Do these things have problems with the apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc. 
that are causing the rest of you support calls?  Or just me?


Calls like Netflix app stopped working 3 weeks ago, or I can watch Netflix 
but Pandora complains about network problems.  My impression is buggy apps 
or updates that break stuff.  But of course everyone tells the customer 
it's their Internet.


I have seen Samsung TVs not play nice with some WiFi routers, but that 
should affect everything, not just one app.


I hate to tell customers to call Samsung or Netflix/Pandora/etc. because I 
know they will just point the finger back at the ISP.