Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG OPTIC DISHES

2015-03-30 Thread Chuck McCown
What he said. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 7:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG OPTIC DISHES Start here: http://streakwave.com/wireless_beehive/OSFeed.pdf bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/29/2015 6:05 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Chuck, Run me

Re: [AFMUG] Rf armor - 2ft dish armor

2015-03-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://www.syscom.mx/producto/TXPEPMP534-TXPRO-71441.html Jaime Solorza On Mar 29, 2015 10:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: what brand of dish is that? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home

2015-03-30 Thread Chuck McCown
I will be glad to be at the Eagle Mountain design review meeting when you propose the idea. That will be fun! -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 7:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tower on home I've put pops on many homes including my own.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home

2015-03-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
That looks scary. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: I've put pops on many homes including my own. I

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
Where is that? Many blown out windows. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/30/2015 6:57 AM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: I've put pops on many homes including my own. I cannot imagine doing something on this scale. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home

2015-03-30 Thread Rory Conaway
You should see the ones in Vietnam on structures where the bases take up the entire roof. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tower on home I've put pops on

Re: [AFMUG] Rf armor - 2ft dish armor

2015-03-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
This is first we have installed and we liked it. Very focused performance. Small adjustments improved signal allot Jaime Solorza On Mar 30, 2015 8:11 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I like the feedhorn on that dish, the N-connectors look easier to weatherproof. Kurt

Re: [AFMUG] Rf armor - 2ft dish armor

2015-03-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
TxPro sold by Epcom. They are for epmp radios. Will send link in a bit Jaime Solorza On Mar 29, 2015 10:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: what brand of dish is that? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel.

Re: [AFMUG] Rf armor - 2ft dish armor

2015-03-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I like the feedhorn on that dish, the N-connectors look easier to weatherproof. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Looks like an FM array at the top? -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 8:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tower on home I've put pops on many homes including my own. I cannot imagine doing something on this scale. Thank you, Brett

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Gaming Keyboard

2015-03-30 Thread Simon Westlake
You need a keyboard that advertises full NKRO. This will allow an infinite number of keypresses to be sent. I personally use http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-keyboard-blackbird-tenkeyless-tkl-cherry-mx-backlit-mechanical-keyboard.html but I like mechanical keyboards and ten key less boards. There

Re: [AFMUG] 11Ghz Licensed Gear

2015-03-30 Thread Hardy, Tim
+1! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11Ghz Licensed Gear If Tim is wrong about something like that, we all have problems... -Original Message- From: Jeff

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Gaming Keyboard

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
Here's a pretty good overview of nkey rollover: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mechanical-keyboard-razer-logitech-gigabyte,3505-6.html bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/30/2015 7:39 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: You need a keyboard that advertises full NKRO. This will allow an infinite

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home

2015-03-30 Thread Cameron Crum
Aesthetics, zoning, safety...lots of stuff isn't as important. Heck, most places in south and central america even advertise jobs for certain sexes and age ranges, obviously illegal here. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: they are probably just glad to

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home

2015-03-30 Thread Daniel White
I've also seen many like that in Mexico... or huge towers right in the middle of subdivisions. Aesthetic value isn't that important in most of the rest of the world. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on home

2015-03-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
they are probably just glad to have some sort of connectivity to the outside world Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 Alpha Omni - Water ingress?

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
We're using an Alpha omni on PMP450, but 2.4 GHz. We have not seen any significant change in weather other than when trees are in the way. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/30/2015 8:14 AM, Brian Sullivan wrote: I deployed a 3.65 Omni antenna attached to a 450AP about 2 weeks ago. Two SM's

[AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor

2015-03-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hello Kool Kats:Can one of you dudes send me Lewis Bergmans contact information? Copacetic..knew that you could Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Need Lewis' from Abilene contact infor

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I heard he sold his WISP... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Kool Kats:Can one of you dudes send me Lewis Bergmans contact information?

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Level 4 does pretty much everything. Level 5 and 6 enable 500/unlimited (from 200) tunnels and more user manager sessions. http://wiki.mikrotik.com/index.php?title=Manual:Licenseredirect=no#License_Levels Is this 2008 or something? I thought everyone had been using Mikrotik for many years. MT

[AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers Is there a sizing chart on these? Is the interface similar between the router models and the switch models? Are the mikrotik switches

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
We do 99% of what we need on MT level 4. You only need level 5 or 6 if you have a bunch of tunnels. Get what you need mainly based on throughput and simultaneous connections. A lowly RB493 easily handles tens of thousands simultaneous connections, and a X86 router probably another order of

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Gabriel Pike
We use Mikrotiks for all of our routers. We have a similar set up to the one you describe. I have 2 WAN routers doing BGP and iBGP between them with OSPF for internal routing. I really like Mikrotiks. I was trained with Cisco products in College but Mikrotiks were an easy transition. We use

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Paul McCall
Steve…. Do you trust me? Mikrotik all the way, just DO IT! … routerboard.com has all the models. slicker than owl-snot on linoleum floor ☺One of the best things we ever did for our network From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
Pricewise per site POP router, we have always been at the 4-700 dollar range between the old imagestreams and the Fortigates, of course that was before the funds got pulled out from under me. Apparently the powers that be have revalued this and are putting the funds on the carrot sticks. This is a

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license. That's where they started their business. Baltic/Titan/etc have their suggested models which are just x86 machines with RouterOS on them already. I'd use these 1000x before I touched ImageStream at tower sites. Josh Luthman Office:

[AFMUG] Hello

2015-03-30 Thread Lewis Bergman
Hello all, After a long absence I finally had time to mess with getting back up on afmug. (especially after being berated by Chuck). I think my issue previously was tied to deleting emails from Amazon. Anyway, looking forward to hearing what has been going on.

Re: [AFMUG] Hello

2015-03-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
holayou might be a getting a call from Mexus Group on some tower work. Jaime Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Be careful for what you wish for... *From:* Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Baltic's x86: http://www.balticnetworks.com/manufacturers/maxxwave/routermaxx-routers-powered-by-mikrotik.html Search MikroNOC here: www.titanwirelessonline.com/category-s/232.htm They have boards and cases ala cate and of course the rb2011 has a board, indoor, rack option - a great product

Re: [AFMUG] Hello

2015-03-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Be careful for what you wish for... From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hello Hello all, After a long absence I finally had time to mess with getting back up on afmug. (especially after being berated by Chuck). I think my issue

Re: [AFMUG] Hello

2015-03-30 Thread Paul McCall
Good to hear from you Lewis! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 4:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hello Hello all, After a long absence I finally had time to mess with getting back up on afmug. (especially after being berated

Re: [AFMUG] Hello

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Welcome back buddy!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, After a long absence I finally had time to mess with getting back up on afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Gaming Keyboard

2015-03-30 Thread Nate Burke
I'm looking at new keyboards. The interesting this is that my PS2 keyboard did not have this problem on my old box, I am using a USB-PS2 adapter on the new box with the same keyboard, and I'm limited to 3 keypresses. That almost makes it seem like a USB limitation, or an issue with the

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
Are you guys saying, you purchase the router OS and put it on third party hardware over using their hardware? What hardware do you find yourselves using, if not routerboard? On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: We do 99% of what we need on MT level 4. You

Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Does deleting history fix it? Maybe he went to google.co.uk one time and the browser is being a jerk about auto completion. I've got a subscriber that gets google.co.uk, even though they type in google.com. What? They have the correct DNS entries in both their router as well as their

Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread Larry Smith
Check a few of the geolocation services to see where their IP are listed as being. Have seen errors pop up in geo services before. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon March 30 2015 15:45, Paul McCall wrote: Did you clear their browser cache? Delete cookies ?

Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
It is possible to set Location settings from the Google search page, maybe they did that? I assume it uses cookies. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 4:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk They are with us on the same

[AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
I wanted to give someone the latest non-RC version of winbox, but the only thing on their web site is version 3.0rc6. I think the latest non-RC version I saw was around 2.1.26 (and I'm using 2.1.18). I tried substituting version in the URL, but got nowhere. Where is the latest version, and

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
You can download it from a router via the web interface. I am seeing 2.2.18. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 5:32 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate? I wanted to give someone the latest non-RC version

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
For example http://192.168.88.1/winbox/winbox.exe Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: You can download it from a router via the web interface. I am seeing 2.2.18.

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Ryan Spott
Lets mail pitchforks to UBNT headquarters and see what gets where first. ryan On Mar 30, 2015, at 16:07, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: 10 business days? :) On 03/30/2015 03:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Well you can wait 2 weeks but after being told 10 days I expected 10 days.

[AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
I've got a subscriber that gets google.co.uk, even though they type in google.com. What? They have the correct DNS entries in both their router as well as their computers. Google must use some secret information to decide which web site they're going to take you to? -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread Gabriel Pike
Sounds like malware. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 4:42 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk I've got a subscriber that gets google.co.uk, even though they type in google.com.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP Module

2015-03-30 Thread Jason McKemie
I get SC SFPs from fiberstore.com On Monday, March 30, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: SFPs are LC only as far as I know. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Matt

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP Module

2015-03-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Just use generic. The few I’ve used so far have worked just fine. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP Module SFPs are LC only as far as I know. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

[AFMUG] Google Maps

2015-03-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Anyone ever tied in a database to google maps and earth? I want to define a boundary area on the map and then take address fields from a database and put them in there, on the map as I'm viewing it.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Butch Evans
On 03/30/2015 02:26 PM, That One Guy wrote: After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. LOTS of good questions here. My thoughts inline. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers For the most part, if you are purchasing

Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread TJ Trout
Yep. GeoIP. Requesting a correction is a B*, are these newly issued IP's? On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net wrote: Check a few of the geolocation services to see where their IP are listed as being. Have seen errors pop up in geo services before. -- Larry

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
RB 1100AHx2 was what I was looking at, on the edge, our current bigger pipe is only 300mbps today, so that would seem sufficient based on your description of use, since the other is smaller, at this price migrating it down into the network if we hit growth quickly wouldnt be a dealbreaker. Its

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Gabriel Pike
In answer to a separate instance in the router for customers, yes. Metarouter is the feature. http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Metarouter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Dennis Burgess
Steve, I would suggest listening to the people here as well as maybe getting a WISP consulting company to steer you in the right direction . Also the MT vendor should be able to give you all of the recommendations that you need on hardware. . Lots of options, however, you may be able to get

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP Module

2015-03-30 Thread Mike Hammett
An SC connector would be larger than the SFP is. Use LC - SC pigtails. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 4:37:47 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP Module

2015-03-30 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Are you talking an SFP with a single SC for WDM/BiDi? I see those far more commonly with a single LC. On 3/30/2015 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: I get SC SFPs from fiberstore.com http://fiberstore.com On Monday, March 30, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP Module

2015-03-30 Thread Jason McKemie
I use them on the ONT end, they work just fine. On Monday, March 30, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: An SC connector would be larger than the SFP is. Use LC - SC pigtails. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com --

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
That's like wondering which direction the sun will come up in the morning... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote: Lets mail pitchforks to UBNT headquarters and see

Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
If this is a windows box, also check their hosts file, and there is no local proxy in the LAN settings On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:56 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Yep. GeoIP. Requesting a correction is a B*, are these newly issued IP's? On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Larry Smith

Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
We've been using this AS for about 3 years. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/30/2015 1:56 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Yep. GeoIP. Requesting a correction is a B*, are these newly issued IP's? On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
I haven’t had any failures with RB951, we do use the G version FWIW. I’ve had 2 out-of-box failures with RB2011, one the CPU heatsink was rattling around inside (there was a metal shaving under the sticky tape), another had a dead port. CRS125 is essentially the same CPU as RB2011, more ports

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Gilbert Gutierrez
I would also suggest getting a WISP consulting company involved if you have questions on what products to use. BGP can be an issue with full routes on a CCR due to the way RouterOS is designed with that processor. x86 processor handles BGP great. With that being said, I have over a Gigabit of

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
AHEM!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No, but should be in distributors hands in ~7-10 days. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:30 PM, That One Guy

[AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP Module

2015-03-30 Thread Matt
Is there a SC version of this available? http://routerboard.com/S-3553LC20D

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ty Featherling
I went from a big flat network to one with a Mikrotik at every tower and the core run on Mikrotik CCR1036s, I love them all and have had only a few weird issues that replacing hardware fixed. I just installed my first CCR1009, the baby brother to the full power 1036 and I freaking love this thing.

Re: [AFMUG] Google Maps

2015-03-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
What is your database? I have some PHP code I wrote a while ago that maps things. ryan On 3/30/15 3:50 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Anyone ever tied in a database to google maps and earth? I want to define a boundary area on the map and then take address fields from a database and put them

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
I have a lot of towers with RB1100AHx2's and use a few ports for routed backhauls, then bridge the rest for APs and other PTPs. So no real switch at most sites. I really don't need wire-speed switching between APs anyway. Some smaller sites using RB493AH G's doing the same thing. Do not try

Re: [AFMUG] google.com - google.co.uk

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
They are with us on the same AS (along with all of our other subscribers). We should all geolocate to the same place? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/30/2015 1:53 PM, Larry Smith wrote: Check a few of the geolocation services to see where their IP are listed as being. Have seen errors pop

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Baird
Are you taking full routing tables from your provider(s) on the edge? If so, I would probably re-think your thoughts on going with something like a RB 1100AH in this role. Take a look at the 951's for customer CPE routers. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:02 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Adam Moffett
My last employer was providing AIrRouters for customer premesis. This employer is using RB951. I think there are more DOA's and early failures with the RB951, or at least the same. So yeah, you get what you pay for. It's like that Russian guy said in Armageddon: American component, Russian

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I agree, if you're running BGP with full routes, you would want to use an x86 box (like the ones from Baltic or Titan) on the edge. An RB2011 will probably be more than enough horsepower for most POP routers. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Are you taking

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Hating? No! Just don't expect a $39 Routerboard to be as durable as your $1000 ImageStream. The rb2011 rocks. I've got nothing but good things to say about it. The 100s and 500s from years and years back kind of irritated me. The 400s have been running for years, though, and have been

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP Module

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
SFPs are LC only as far as I know. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a SC version of this available? http://routerboard.com/S-3553LC20D

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ty Featherling
Good point to make there Ken. Steve, make sure you buy the G for gigabit versions of the router when available. Not only will you get gigabit ports but you also get a faster processor. I do love the CRS125 as long as you know what it is and don't think it is something it isn't. Like you said it is

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Well you can wait 2 weeks but after being told 10 days I expected 10 days. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So if we don't have them in two weeks we can get

Re: [AFMUG] Google Maps

2015-03-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I'm sticking it in Microsoft SQL as additional tables to my Platypus SQL stuff. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 5:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Maps What is your database? I have some PHP code I wrote a while

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
We have a Mikrotik friendly consultant lined up for the BGP implementation. Our purpose in BGP right now is to have versatility among our /24 and our extremely mismatched bandwidth between providers. because we are currently statically routed, we are using all our IP4 space on our smaller

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
10 business days? :) On 03/30/2015 03:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Well you can wait 2 weeks but after being told 10 days I expected 10 days. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
Great input guys, I truly appreciate it. On the RB110 AH, I see Includes switch to enable Ethernet bypass mode in two ports What is this? Tell me it turns those two ports into a couple if the router fails, that would be nice if we opt to fully route our backhauls. Currently, at the sites we have

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Baird
We have a ton of 450G's out in the field at towers for smaller sites. We also typically use the 450G as a 'managed router' solution for dedicated business customers. Backhauls go into routed ports, AP's go into a bridge. When we need more interfaces, we start to look at the 2011 for small to

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
Now, see this leads back to confusion for me, that product is listed as just a routerboard. I assume this is so you can use your own housing? For that I would just purchase a CA150 separately? On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: We just haven't had a chance to

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Moore
I like that idea!!! Anyone want to make some up? Maybe we will hand them out at the next show ;) On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Ben, you should send out miniature voodoo dolls of yourself with miniature pitchforks, to satisfy the people with pitchfork

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Ben, you should send out miniature voodoo dolls of yourself with miniature pitchforks, to satisfy the people with pitchfork urges. Again no stock? Stab, stab, stab. OK, feel better now. Maybe tomorrow. From: Ben Moore Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 7:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I believe all boards have an indoor OEM case. There are tons of third party outdoor options. Keep in mind boosts like 951 is for home CPE, nothing like BGP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 30, 2015 8:33 PM, That One Guy

Re: [AFMUG] Google Maps

2015-03-30 Thread Cameron Crum
Yes. On Mar 30, 2015 5:50 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: Anyone ever tied in a database to google maps and earth? I want to define a boundary area on the map and then take address fields from a database and put them in there, on the map as I'm viewing it.

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Mathew Howard
See... I told you two weeks :P On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: As per the latest tracking they arrive tomorrow and Thursday. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: at US distributors On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
There ya go. If George says it's so, then I will not go down that path. Still don't understand why the latest stable version isn't on their web site. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/30/2015 7:47 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: The latest 3.0 RC's crash on me all the time.

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
...but I like the new groupings, so I deal with it.. most of the time. Although sometimes it's so bad I smash my keyboard and cry. And the other difference is it stores preferences locally for ROS v6. v5 is still stored on the router like Winbox v2 though. It's really annoying when someone

[AFMUG] Telrad Webinar

2015-03-30 Thread Trevor Bough
Did the PR folks ever allow the release of the recorded Telrad webinar from about a month ago? Wasn't able to watch it live and would like to be able to see it

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Well they kept saying they're better at having stock. Several of them said March. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 30, 2015 8:23 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: You didn't really think that number would be

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Moore
For the AF-5X? Yes, they are approved. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: What about UNII and DFS approvals? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: As per the latest tracking they arrive tomorrow

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Wanna share a tracking number. (This feels like an ebay transaction from China now) :P ryan On 3/30/15 5:32 PM, Ben Moore wrote: As per the latest tracking they arrive tomorrow and Thursday. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
Cool. That works for me. Thanks Ken! bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 3/30/2015 3:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: You can download it from a router via the web interface. I am seeing 2.2.18. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 5:32 PM To: Motorola III

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Mathew Howard
You didn't really think that number would be accurate, did you? On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well you can wait 2 weeks but after being told 10 days I expected 10 days. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Baird
Take a look at Baltic or roc-noc.com. They sell them with cases. On Mar 30, 2015, at 8:33 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Now, see this leads back to confusion for me, that product is listed as just a routerboard. I assume this is so you can use your own housing? For that

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Jon Langeler
What about UNII and DFS approvals? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: As per the latest tracking they arrive tomorrow and Thursday. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: at US distributors On Mon, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
hahahaha On 03/30/2015 04:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Don’t give Mike any of the dolls, you don’t want to know where he would stick an SFP. *From:* Ben Moore mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 7:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Erich Kaiser
Same here.. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:47 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: The latest 3.0 RC's crash on me all the time. On 3/30/2015 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
I noticed the grouping. Immediately added that to the useful column. Did not kick the tires enough to get it to crash. I can see pros and cons in storing preferences locally versus the router. I change computers often enough that the local storage might be irritating. OTOH... bp

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
I think the latest is 2.2.18, (per Ken), but I saw a couple of web sites with other versions (my original email should have said 2.2.18 instead of 2.1.18). Dyslexia in action or something. Not clear why MT does not have the latest stable version on their web site. bp

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Erich Kaiser
RB850Gx2 is a great product! :) Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Seems like the RB850Gx2 gets no love? *From:* Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Seems like the RB850Gx2 gets no love? From: Josh Baird Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations We have a ton of 450G's out in the field at towers for smaller sites. We also typically use the 450G as a 'managed router'

Re: [AFMUG] Latest winbox that's NOT a release candidate?

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
FWIW, I’ve had no trouble just downloading whatever they have on the website onto a laptop, the interface may look a little different, but I don’t think Winbox tends to have bugs the way RouterOS does, plus it downloads the plugins from the router you’re connecting to anyway. From: Bill

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