Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: [Arbitor] OFF: [Deputy Arbitor] Judge assignments

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
Wait, did you pay me 40? Did you pay 20 to me, then another 20 to me if you got G's shinies? Did you pay me 20, and pay 20 to my nonexistent doppelgänger with no taste in vowels? GaelAn > On May 19, 2017, at 10:35 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > In partial satisfaction of my

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
On May 19, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I think that at least one of these are true: > - unclear (obvious reasons) > - ambiguous (any translation between languages is inherently ambiguous) > - depends on information which is unreasonably difficult to determine (a

DIS: Re: BUS: A new agency approaches

2017-05-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On May 18, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Quazie wrote: > > I establish the following Agency: (This is my 24 hours notice) > > Title: G is Overloard of Dunce (GOD) Spelled thus? -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Resolution of Surveyor Election Decision

2017-05-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
Thank you. I look forward to serving. -o > On May 18, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > I resolve the Agoran decision of electing Surveyor with o as the winner. > What follows is the IRV results. > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: (no subject)

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
I assume those links are copypasted from the links in the ruleset itself. If you wanted permalinks, you could link directly to the YAML files in the repo. I don't know of a good way to do versioning of GH pages; I'd need something to talk with GH's API and pull down the correct version of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cyan Ribbons of the Grand Deputies

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
My family runs our own email as well, and I didn't get it either. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 9:12 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I run my own mail infrastructure (fx: waits for the gasps of shock to die > down) and I didn’t get that, either. I’ll have to check what got

Re: DIS: Agency CFJs

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2017-05-20 at 01:40 +, Quazie wrote: > I CFJ on the following Two Linked Statements: > It is possible to create an agency such that its acronym contains at least > one integer symbol (e.g. 0-9). > It is possible to create an agency such that its acronym contains at least > one

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: (no subject)

2017-05-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
It’d be nice if those links included an effective date or some other revision identifier, to make them stable against future rule changes. Maybe I’ll hack something up. Since it appears that P.S.S. has broken at least one rule regardless of eir beliefs about eir job, and for lack of a better

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Tailor] Ribbons

2017-05-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
I would be required to Card you for the broken pledge. I don’t particularly _want_ to, but I could be carded in return for failing to do so, and I’ve a sneaking suspicion Gaelan would be watching for it. Cards have some weird incentives. -o > On May 18, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Publius Scribonius

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cyan Ribbons of the Grand Deputies

2017-05-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
I run my own mail infrastructure (fx: waits for the gasps of shock to die down) and I didn’t get that, either. I’ll have to check what got eaten by spamd, but I think we might have a delivery problem. -o > On May 18, 2017, at 2:20 AM, Quazie wrote: > > We have Cyans

DIS: Limited Agency Proposal

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
I submit the following proto-proposal entitled "Limited Agencies" AI=1 {{{ In rule 2467 replace: {{{ An Agency is a document empowering persons to act on behalf of another player. A player may establish an Agency With 24 hours Notice and thereby become its Director by

Re: DIS: Agency CFJs

2017-05-19 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sat, 20 May 2017, Quazie wrote: I CFJ on the following Two Linked Statements: It is possible to create an agency such that its acronym contains at least one integer symbol (e.g. 0-9). It is possible to create an agency such that its acronym contains at least one non-english alphabetic

DIS: Agency CFJs

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
I CFJ on the following Two Linked Statements: It is possible to create an agency such that its acronym contains at least one integer symbol (e.g. 0-9). It is possible to create an agency such that its acronym contains at least one non-english alphabetic character (芋, Ñ, Æ). Arguments: Agencies

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Aris Merchant
A few example annotations (comments appreciated, especially as I'm unsure of the second one): -- CFJ(s): 3462 CFJ Date: 21 Oct 2016 Rule: 2143 Notes: Publishing a an accidentally incomplete or mistaken report generally satisfies

Re: DIS: Programmable actions:

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
CFJs 1451-1452. My bad. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > >> On Fri, 19 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> >> The rules specify that a game message may be spread across multiple email >> messages as long as it is clear how they are joined

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:38 PM, caleb vines wrote: > > I have, and I really appreciate that database. I've been looking through it > > to start outlining for a possible thesis paper on the judiciary history of > > Agoran

Re: DIS: Programmable actions:

2017-05-19 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: The rules specify that a game message may be spread across multiple email messages as long as it is clear how they are joined together, which makes me think there is no mailing list threshold requirement. Where is that? My reading of the current rule

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3488 judged TRUE

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
I believe it dealt with partnerships - there were some odd times around that. On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 17:32 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > In my dim memory, there was at least once where someone judging a CFJ > made em not the judge of said CFJ. > > On Fri, 19 May 2017, Publius

Re: DIS: The Gmail (or really modern web mail) problem

2017-05-19 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 18:13 +, Quazie wrote: Proto-Proposal: This time to a public forum Create a new rule, power .5 entitled "Traveling Message Infraction" with the following text: {{{ Players SHOULD NOT muddy up the waters by sending messages first

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > How is the CFJ database stored now? If it's flat files, you could upload it > to GitHub under AgoraNomic (I can invite you) Was going to ask! GitHub Username: kaydin. It's just flat files. I might not move in immediately, still twiddling with

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3488 judged TRUE

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
In my dim memory, there was at least once where someone judging a CFJ made em not the judge of said CFJ. On Fri, 19 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Now that I reread it again I see why you got that idea, I should have been > more clear. Your interpretation is definitely

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Should we put it on the wiki or maybe on a separate repo? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:38 PM, caleb vines wrote: > > I have, and I really

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:38 PM, caleb vines wrote: > I have, and I really appreciate that database. I've been looking through it > to start outlining for a possible thesis paper on the judiciary history of > Agoran currencies. > > -grok > I'm also interested in producing

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread caleb vines
I have, and I really appreciate that database. I've been looking through it to start outlining for a possible thesis paper on the judiciary history of Agoran currencies. -grok On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 16:28 -0500,

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 16:28 -0500, caleb vines wrote: > I have a lot of curiosity in the older CFJs as well, so I'd be happy > to help once we have a system or at least some form of version > control. Just in case you haven't seen it yet, most CFJs are online here:

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread caleb vines
I have a lot of curiosity in the older CFJs as well, so I'd be happy to help once we have a system or at least some form of version control. -grok On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Happy to have help! I'm not starting in on this immediately

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
Happy to have help! I'm not starting in on this immediately (didn't mean to be discouraging, just wanted to be clear what's involved). Hmm, I'd have to figure out a place to put them online, not going to happen this week. But feel free to start anywhere, if you produce a document that's

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Quazie wrote: > But as insignificant isn't defined, it doesn't seem like the rulekeepor > can make changes to rules, including insignificant ones.  The "fun" of pretending to be a system of judges of lawyers is to come up with evolving precedents for terms-of-art that have

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I would be happy to help with this, if you would allow me to. How should I share the summaries with you? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 19 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > I

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 21:07 +, Quazie wrote: > But as insignificant isn't defined, it doesn't seem like the > rulekeepor can make changes to rules, including insignificant ones. It's not about being able to /change/ the rule; it's about being able to legally /misquote/ it. In particular, the

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 20:45 +, Quazie wrote: > I was looking at the following rule when trying to determine if the > spacing within a submitted proposal can be modified by the > rulekeepor. > > Rule 2429/1 (Power=1) > Bleach > >   Replacing a non-zero amount of whitespace with a

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I would be happy to help clean up the data and/or run a parser if you could > explain what is needed? It's more complicated than that, it's taking a specific judgement ("it's FALSE that Quazie transferred a Shiny to me yesterday")

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:05 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 May 2017, Quazie wrote: > > I was looking at the following rule when trying to determine if the > spacing within a submitted proposal can be modified by the rulekeepor. > > > > Rule 2429/1 (Power=1) > >

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

2017-05-19 Thread Josh T
Bleach is good as a whitening and cleaning agent . On a slightly more serious note, whitespace characters encompass quite the number of characters aside from space, tab, and "enter" (which is a line feed and/or a carriage return), including characters like "non-breaking space", "ideographic

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
Yeah, that confused me. To stay on the safe side, I went to a lot of effort to preserve white space when I imported the ruleset until I could invoke Cleanup Time. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Quazie wrote: > > I was looking at the following rule when trying to

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
The intent was to figure out if the RuleKeepor must respect my spacing, i think old rules allowed the rulekeepor to make insignificant changes to proposals before adding them to the ruleset, but I can't find that info anymore. I either want to add that fact back, or remove bleach, but I want to

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
Definitely worth a thesis! This is a place where, without a single rules change, technical progress may definitely change how difficult a task is over time. (if I'm still allowed to judge CFJ 3471-3472, technical progress will definitely play a role). It's also worth noting that, when I

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I would be happy to help clean up the data and/or run a parser if you could explain what is needed? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > We can start by importing the annotations we already have. I already have > those

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Do you propose removing it or defining insignificant? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Quazie wrote: > I was looking at the following rule when trying to determine if the spacing > within a submitted proposal can be modified by the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3501 assigned to ais523

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
I remember reading something in the FLR saying it wasn't. I'm not sure if it was a CFJ or a rule, but registration is special anyway. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 1:41 PM, Quazie wrote: > > Valid - I was unsure if subject line only information was considered valid >

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Ambiguity

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
Whew. I wasn't excited about that. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I would like to judge this. > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > >> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Quazie

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
We can start by importing the annotations we already have. I already have those parsed in some form (see GitHub.com/AgoraNomic/ruleset), though I probably need to clean up the data first. I haven't parsed the garbage bin, but that shouldn't be too hard. Gaelan. > On May 19, 2017, at 1:23

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 2017, Josh T wrote: > > > Does anyone have a copy of the message 1460 was called on? Something sent > > > by Goethe in April 2003. > > It's in CFJ 1439. > > > > 天火狐 > > No, that was a different Turkish message. > > The one for 1460

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Currently our CFJ data is a bit duplicated between the Rulekeepor's and > Arbritor's records. I think it would be optimal if we did things like this: > > - Summary field on (some) CFJs in the CFJ database similar to how they are > listed in the FLR

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread caleb vines
CoE: The acronym is improperly formatted according to 2467. It is only legally formatted as (SSP). On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I establish the following Agency: (This is my 24 hours notice) > Title:

Re: DIS: CFJ 3469

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Good to know, I will follow that precedent. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 15:50 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > wrote: > > > CFJ

Re: DIS: CFJ 3469

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 15:50 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > CFJ 3469 seems to have a typo in the statement. Is it standard that I > should judge it as written and DISMISS it or should I judge it as > intended. The main aim of CFJs is to resolve controversies. Thus, you should

DIS: CFJ data for FLR

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
Currently our CFJ data is a bit duplicated between the Rulekeepor's and Arbritor's records. I think it would be optimal if we did things like this: - Summary field on (some) CFJs in the CFJ database similar to how they are listed in the FLR now. - Field in either the CFJ or ruleset database

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Thanks for pointing that out. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Quazie wrote: > Thanks for.. groking the mistake in his agency (HA) > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:02 PM caleb vines wrote: > >> Yes. 2467 requires

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
Thanks for.. groking the mistake in his agency (HA) On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:02 PM caleb vines wrote: > Yes. 2467 requires the acronym be formed by the first letters of the > non-contraction, non-article, non-preposition words in the title, in order. > Additionally, I

Re: DIS: Programmable actions:

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
So, does that mean that this does not allow exceeding mailing list thresholds. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 19:56 +, Quazie wrote: > > Can i do something akin to following: > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I don't think it does, but to note the acronym is SSP Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Quazie wrote: > An Agency, once created, SHOULD be referred to by the acronym > formed from its title with conjunctions, articles, and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
An Agency, once created, SHOULD be referred to by the acronym formed from its title with conjunctions, articles, and prepositions removed. The acronym of an agency must be unique and any attempt to create or amend an Agency such that two Agencies would have the same

Re: DIS: Programmable actions:

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I see no reason why one could not. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Quazie wrote: > Submitting proposals for example (I will not be flooding the proposal > pool, i'm more asking if it's valid to shorthand mass actions) > > On Fri, May

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Must the acronym match? I intentionally left it as is, but I can change it? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Quazie wrote: > The acronym is wrong this time. > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < >

Re: DIS: Programmable actions:

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
Submitting proposals for example (I will not be flooding the proposal pool, i'm more asking if it's valid to shorthand mass actions) On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:58 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > ​In what context?​ > > > Publius

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
The acronym is wrong this time. On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > That is weird, but I establish the following Agency: (This is my 24 hours > notice) > Title: Scribonius Scholasticus and the Pledges (PSSP) >

Re: DIS: Programmable actions:

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
​In what context?​ Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Quazie wrote: > Can i do something akin to following: > > For char a in [a-z]: > for char b in [a-z]" > for char c in [a-z]: >Do Some Action with the variables A, B,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
That is weird, but I establish the following Agency: (This is my 24 hours notice) Title: Scribonius Scholasticus and the Pledges (PSSP) Agents: All Players Powers: If Publius Scribonius Scholasticus makes a pledge in which e pledges X Shinies in return for an action or statement, the first player

DIS: Programmable actions:

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
Can i do something akin to following: For char a in [a-z]: for char b in [a-z]" for char c in [a-z]: Do Some Action with the variables A, B, and C Or would I have to write out all of the actions individually by hand (or script to be more realistic)

DIS: Re: BUS: Another agency, this time with feeling

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
The above isn't valid as the Title is invalid. A title, which must be exactly three words, not counting conjunctions, articles or prepositions. On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:54 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: >

DIS: CFJ 3469

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
CFJ 3469 seems to have a typo in the statement. Is it standard that I should judge it as written and DISMISS it or should I judge it as intended. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Tailor] Ribbons

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I am writing those up now, so it should work itself out. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 14:00 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Alex

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Josh T wrote: > > Does anyone have a copy of the message 1460 was called on? Something sent > > by Goethe in April 2003. > It's in CFJ 1439. > > 天火狐 No, that was a different Turkish message. The one for 1460 was: Bu demeçin kararý için ben baðýrým: Bu bir baðýrýþ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Tailor] Ribbons

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 14:00 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Alex Smith > wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 05:55 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > wrote: > > > I award myself a Blue Ribbon. > > > > Which CFJ did

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Josh T
Nobody seems to mind when CFJ 3478 was presented with "I present no arguments, largely out of spite" ;P. I pledge to not object to nichdel should they wish to assign themselves the below-quoted CFJs: * "Agora need not be played in English." * "Agora can be played in any language." On 19 May 2017

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I am sorry, I did not realize that that was the expectation. Further, I hereby pledge to any CFJs without providing evidence. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > Honestly, there should be a punishment for calling CFJs

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > CFJ: "Agora need not be played in English." > CFJ: "Agora can be played in any language." I've hinted at it, but PLEASE include some thought and arguments. You're throwing out a lot of CFJs, some trivially incorrect due to bad

Re: DIS: The Gmail (or really modern web mail) problem

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I see no reason to enact this. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Quazie wrote: > A Green Card is a punishment with no repercussions, and is merely a rule > encouraging people to be a little mindful of where their replies are headed. >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3492 assigned to Quazie

2017-05-19 Thread Josh T
I submit the following gratuitous argument: * Rule 2461 "Death and Birth of Organizations" states that "When an organization is created this way, its Charter is set to the value that e specified, and the Budget switch for that player and Organization is set to the Income Floor." * Rule 2459

DIS: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3497 assigned to Aris

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-05-17 at 23:16 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I forgot something important. > > On May 17, 2017, at 10:57 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > I CFJ on the statement “the rules forbid a player named ‘no Player’ > > from taking any action that requires posting to a public

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Josh T
> Unclear Several dictionaries give a definition of this word to mean "ambiguous" or "not easily understood", the latter of which is similar to "depends on information which is unnecessarily difficult to determine", so I will address those. > Depends on information which is unreasonably difficult

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > It came up as a CFJ when 天火狐 first registered. If you follow the actual precedent, it actually *didn't* accept the Japanse-character nickname, but instead recommended transliteration:

Re: DIS: The Gmail (or really modern web mail) problem

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
A Green Card is a punishment with no repercussions, and is merely a rule encouraging people to be a little mindful of where their replies are headed. On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:24 Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 18:13 +, Quazie wrote: > > Proto-Proposal:

Re: DIS: The Gmail (or really modern web mail) problem

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 18:13 +, Quazie wrote: > Proto-Proposal: This time to a public forum > Create a new rule, power .5 entitled "Traveling Message Infraction" with > the following text: > {{{ > Players SHOULD NOT muddy up the waters by sending messages first to a > non-public forum, and then

Re: DIS: The Gmail (or really modern web mail) problem

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
Why is this related to webmail? > On May 19, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Quazie wrote: > > Proto-Proposal: This time to a public forum > Create a new rule, power .5 entitled "Traveling Message Infraction" with the > following text: > {{{ > Players SHOULD NOT muddy up the waters

DIS: The Gmail (or really modern web mail) problem

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
Proto-Proposal: This time to a public forum Create a new rule, power .5 entitled "Traveling Message Infraction" with the following text: {{{ Players SHOULD NOT muddy up the waters by sending messages first to a non-public forum, and then upon noticing their mistake, forward the message on to the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread caleb vines
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > It has already been determined that Japanese acceptable. > > No it hasn't. > > It's been found true in a very limited way for nicknames and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > It has already been determined that Japanese acceptable. No it hasn't. It's been found true in a very limited way for nicknames and registration, but for nicknames and registration we give much wider latitude than for other legal

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
It came up as a CFJ when 天火狐 first registered. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 2017-05-19 13:54 GMT-04:00 Gaelan Steele : > Where? > > On May 19, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > It has already

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election of Assessor, Promotor, Rulekeepor, and Arbitor

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I endorse nichdel for the rulekeepor, arbitor, promotor, and assessor elections. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Quazie wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:48 AM Nic Evans wrote: > >> I initiate an election for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Tailor] Ribbons

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
CFJ 3476 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 05:55 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I award myself a Blue Ribbon. > > Which CFJ did you judge? > > -- > ais523 >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
Where? > On May 19, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > It has already been determined that Japanese acceptable. > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > 2017-05-19 11:08 GMT-04:00 Gaelan Steele :

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
There is supposed to be an "is". Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 2017-05-19 13:53 GMT-04:00 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com>: > It has already been determined that Japanese acceptable. > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > 2017-05-19

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
It has already been determined that Japanese acceptable. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 2017-05-19 11:08 GMT-04:00 Gaelan Steele : > "Organizational Restructuring:" > > If a Charter does not specify the appropriateness of an amendment to its > Organization, or if it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election of Assessor, Promotor, Rulekeepor, and Arbitor

2017-05-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 17:05 +, Quazie wrote: > > I propose that the Arbitor's payrate be low, but their report rate be > > low. > > (But thats because I am interpreting all 'Person A judged a CFJ > > TRUE/FALSE" messages to official are reports, i

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election of Assessor, Promotor, Rulekeepor, and Arbitor

2017-05-19 Thread Aris Merchant
I endorse ais523 on all of the below elections. -Aris On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> I initiate an election for Assessor, as there has been no election >> since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the >> new Assessor. For

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election of Assessor, Promotor, Rulekeepor, and Arbitor

2017-05-19 Thread Nic Evans
NttPF On 05/19/2017 12:28 PM, caleb vines wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Nic Evans > wrote: I initiate an election for Assessor, as there has been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election of Assessor, Promotor, Rulekeepor, and Arbitor

2017-05-19 Thread caleb vines
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Nic Evans wrote: > > I initiate an election for Assessor, as there has been no election since > the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Assessor. > For this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election of Assessor, Promotor, Rulekeepor, and Arbitor

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 17:05 +, Quazie wrote: > I propose that the Arbitor's payrate be low, but their report rate be > low. > (But thats because I am interpreting all 'Person A judged a CFJ > TRUE/FALSE" messages to official are reports, i disagree with myself > if that's not the case.

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election of Assessor, Promotor, Rulekeepor, and Arbitor

2017-05-19 Thread Quazie
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:59 AM Nic Evans wrote: > Also note the following incompatibilities: ADoP and Promotor, Promotor > and Assessor, Referee and Arbitor. > > On 05/19/2017 11:49 AM, Nic Evans wrote: > > I initiate an election for Assessor, as there has been no election >

DIS: Agency Leadership Amendment - Proto

2017-05-19 Thread caleb vines
Using the evidence in CFJs 3490 and 3491, it's pretty clear that the spirit of Rule 2467 was that the Director and the Agency Head were meant to be one singular designation. I would recommend amending Rule 2467 "Agencies" to remove all references to "Head" and replace them with "Director." This

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
"Organizational Restructuring:" > If a Charter does not specify the appropriateness of an amendment to its > Organization, or if it attempts to specify the appropriateness of such an > amendment but in a way that is unclear, ambiguous, circular, inconsistent, > paradoxical, or that depends on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cleanup Time (and Markdown reward agency)

2017-05-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
I did. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 2:54 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > Well, since you have had objection you must begin again. > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Gaelan Steele

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: [Arbitor] OFF: [Deputy Arbitor] Judge assignments

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
In that case, shouldn't it be judged false because it would not have ratified given the dual entries. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:49 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 21:26 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > I judge 3463 and

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement on CFJ 3479

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
If this is the case then there was an error in the last report of the office tracking shinies, because I was charged the pending fee. Anyways,I submit the following proposal: {{{ Title: Agora's To-Do List (v2/ov1) Adoption index: 1.0 Author: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus Enact a rule

DIS: Re: BUS: Cleanup Time (and Markdown reward agency)

2017-05-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Well, since you have had objection you must begin again. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > uhh. I meant “rule changes.” > > For each of the following rule changes, I intend to cause “Cleanup Time” > to make that

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: [Arbitor] OFF: [Deputy Arbitor] Judge assignments

2017-05-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 21:26 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I judge 3463 and 3464 as TRUE.  > > My reading of the rules (person can communicate logical thoughts, > player is a registered person) makes me believe that Alexis and > scshunt refer to the same player, and therefore are synonyms. >