DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [Astronomor] Weekly Report

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 06:42, Jason Cobb wrote: > > On 8/4/19 2:38 AM, Rebecca wrote: > > COE: I am not a player, so I dont own a spaceship. You also have to delete > > a sector for me and for nch. > > > Accepted. > > Revision: What was R. Lee's spaceship is currently possessed by the Lost > and Fo

Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 05:23, James Cook wrote: > > > Okay, a few things. > > > > * Defining “unconditional announcement” is probably overkill; any sane > > judge would arrive at that that anyway, and it adds a bit to bloat. > > * You should probably say "Roshambo Score is an integer player switch"

Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 05:45, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > > > On 8/4/19 1:23 AM, James Cook wrote: > > >Whenever a player has not done so in the past 4 days, e CAN > > >Commune with the Wheel by announcement, specifying Rock, Paper or

DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] Re-up judge interest please

2019-08-04 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 2:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Please reply to this thread to indicate interest in judging. > > We've had people favor cases lately that are technically "uninterested" by > my tracking, and also people technically "interested" dropping cases. So > time for a refresh. > >

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Patron Gods

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 2:57 AM, James Cook wrote: I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I submit the following rule to the contest: { I dedicate this rule to ARCAS. Every new rule must be dedicated to exactly one Agoran God, called the rule's Patron God. The Patron God must have been mentioned in a previous

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Politeness

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 11:29 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: Each worshiper must understand that only the AGORAN GODS, and, by extensions, their PHYSICAL EMBODIMENT, Eir Supreme Eminence, and, that in order to satisfy the AGORAN GODS enough to enforce their rules, each Novel Paragraph must once contain the word "PLEA

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [Astronomor] Weekly Report

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 3:01 AM, James Cook wrote: On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 06:42, Jason Cobb wrote: On 8/4/19 2:38 AM, Rebecca wrote: COE: I am not a player, so I dont own a spaceship. You also have to delete a sector for me and for nch. Accepted. Revision: What was R. Lee's spaceship is currently possesse

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [Astronomor] Weekly Report

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 9:15 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: > Yay, directly contradictory judgements. > > R2576 has never changed, so there's no reason for this contradiction, or to > think that either judgement would be invalidated between the time it was > issued and now. > > I don't know how I'm supposed to deal

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [Astronomor] Weekly Report

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 9:51 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On 8/4/2019 9:15 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: > Yay, directly contradictory judgements. > > R2576 has never changed, so there's no reason for this contradiction, or to > think that either judgement would be invalidated between the time it was > issued and n

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [Astronomor] Weekly Report

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 9:54 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Other option, after reading more thoroughly: I think the later CFJ is > more > correct, personally - you could just assume that that one overruled the > previous and see if anyone *else* wants to CFJ that. Depends on which > one you (as Officer) think

DIS: On Ratification

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
So, if I'm correct, this may be a fairly serious bug, but only if people do what I did and don't put the date in their self-ratifying reports. I think that if a report fails to state when it is true, then when it is self-ratified, it becomes true at the time that it is ratified, rather than at

Re: DIS: On Ratification

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 1:17 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: So, if I'm correct, this may be a fairly serious bug, but only if people do what I did and don't put the date in their self-ratifying reports. I think that if a report fails to state when it is true, then when it is self-ratified, it becomes true at the ti

Re: DIS: On Ratification

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 10:17 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: So, if I'm correct, this may be a fairly serious bug, but only if people do what I did and don't put the date in their self-ratifying reports. I think that if a report fails to state when it is true, then when it is self-ratified, it becomes true at th

Re: DIS: On Ratification

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 1:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: In R1551:    the gamestate is modified to what it would be if,   at the time the ratified document was published ... (later it says "if" the document has a different time then the publication date, use that instead.  otherwise, the

Re: DIS: On Ratification

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 10:24 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 8/4/19 1:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> In R1551: >>the gamestate is modified to what it would be if, >> at the time the ratified document was published ... >> >> (later it says "if" the document has a different time the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: M

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
Thanks for the heads-up, but I will resign as assessor and PM as an alternate - I really don't want to have to deal with this (even via contract). I was actually working on a proto to take the other offices out of the space loop - I really don't like the imposition of wholly unrelated tasks on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: M

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 12:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Thanks for the heads-up, but I will resign as assessor... Er, "arbitor", my brain still autocompletes offices starting with 'a' with 'ssessor' even though 'arbitor' has been around a few years now...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: M

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
Also - it's not even clear if this will work. Even if you profess to deputize, what happens when someone sends me a private message and you don't get it... for some additional context - I'll be on vacation from Aug 8 - Aug 28. I was trying to decide whether to keep Arbitor and assume I could

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Burnt Offerings

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 2:53 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: This rule is dedicated to INTERCAL, the most esoteric of all the gods. Fie on thee, 0x44, thou fugitive! To each new fantasy rule, please allow a file to be attached, which file shall contain the ASCII art of exactly one animal which shall be sacrificed.

DIS: [proto] the Ansible

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
Proto: Ansible Summary: By requiring the initiator of a space battle to publish a hash of eir energy value when initiating the battle, we speed up the process, simplify the rule because we don't need to talk about multiple methods of private communication, and one officer (the Astronomor) can

Re: DIS: [proto] the Ansible

2019-08-04 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 14:55 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > [* do we need to define what a "hash method" is or is that in > common-enough use to leave to common definitions?] Fun though it would be to scam this myself, in the spirit of "catch loopholes rather than exploit them": the common definition

Re: DIS: [proto] the Ansible

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 6:09 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 14:55 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: [* do we need to define what a "hash method" is or is that in common-enough use to leave to common definitions?] Fun though it would be to scam this myself, in the spirit of "catch loopholes

Re: DIS: [proto] the Ansible

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 3:10 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: On 8/4/19 6:09 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 14:55 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: [* do we need to define what a "hash method" is or is that in common-enough use to leave to common definitions?] Fun though it would be to scam this

Re: DIS: [proto] the Ansible

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 6:17 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On 8/4/2019 3:10 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: On 8/4/19 6:09 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 14:55 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: [* do we need to define what a "hash method" is or is that in common-enough use to leave to common definitions?

Re: DIS: [proto] the Ansible

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 3:21 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > I'd say just enumerate the acceptable algorithms. You could probably just > start with SHA256 - it's secure and easy to find calculators for online. lol sure I suppose there's no point in coming up with an elegantly-crafted general definition (as pretty

DIS: [proto] ansible v0.2

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
- Just fixing the hash method at SHA-256, full-stop, dropped a bunch of text. - replacing "hashed communication" to "cable", and changing the terms-of-art to go with the "sending a cable" metaphor, makes it shorter and seems to read better (and avoids the overloaded term "communication"). Crea

Re: DIS: [proto] ansible v0.2

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
A person (the Transmitter) CAN transmit a Cable You capitalize "Cable" here, but nowhere else, similarly for "Transmitter", and "Hash". Side-note: I'm not sure that I understand the cable metaphor. How does one "transmit" a cable?   The delivery is SUCCESSFUL, and the cable is cons

Re: DIS: [proto] ansible v0.2

2019-08-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 8/4/2019 5:10 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > Side-note: I'm not sure that I understand the cable metaphor. How does one > "transmit" a cable? Cable (verb) contact or send a message to (someone) by cablegram. Cable (noun, lesser meaning) a cablegram, abbrev. "we cabled to a boat at sea, asking

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3764 Assigned to D. Margaux

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 at 23:37, Kerim Aydin wrote: > If the proposal created a power 3.1 rule that said "nch is registered" > then we could use rule 1030, but that's not what the clause does. I think at this point it would only save nch one week, so I don't know if I will bother submitting this. But

DIS: Re: BUS: More space shenanigans

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Sun., Aug. 4, 2019, 18:33 Jason Cobb, wrote: > On 8/4/19 10:32 PM, James Cook wrote: > > I will spend 0 energy in this space battle. > > > > - Falsifian > > I cause G. to resolve the Space Battle between Jason Cobb and Falsifian > as follows: > { > Jason Cobb wins this Space Battle. > Jason Co

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: More space shenanigans

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 10:34 PM, James Cook wrote: I will spend 0 energy in this space battle. - Falsifian NttPF. -- Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: BUS: More space shenanigans

2019-08-04 Thread Rebecca
Btw jason u made a tactical error in getting the fame first bc now the other lad can wait u out and assure themselves the speakership with intent reaolution On Monday, August 5, 2019, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 8/4/19 11:38 PM, James Cook wrote: > >> I will spend 1 energy in this space battle. >> >>

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [FRC] Let the Festivities Commence!

2019-08-04 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:35 PM James Cook wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 03:38, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > 2. Variety. Contributions that move things in a new direction shall be > >rewarded. Contributions that merely repeat things that have come > >before shall be punished. Remember th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: More space shenanigans

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/5/19 12:01 AM, Rebecca wrote: Btw jason u made a tactical error in getting the fame first bc now the other lad can wait u out and assure themselves the speakership with intent reaolution Cool. -- Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: More space shenanigans

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 04:02, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 8/5/19 12:01 AM, Rebecca wrote: > > Btw jason u made a tactical error in getting the fame first bc now the > > other lad can wait u out and assure themselves the speakership with intent > > reaolution > > Cool. > > -- > Jason Cobb We could just

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Patron Gods

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 14:53, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 8/4/19 2:57 AM, James Cook wrote: > > I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I submit the following rule to the > > contest: > > > > { > > > > I dedicate this rule to ARCAS. > > > > Every new rule must be dedicated to exactly one Agoran God, called

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Patron Gods

2019-08-04 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 9:51 PM James Cook wrote: > On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 14:53, Jason Cobb wrote: > > On 8/4/19 2:57 AM, James Cook wrote: > > > I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I submit the following rule to the > > > contest: > > > > > > { > > > > > > I dedicate this rule to ARCAS. > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Patron Gods

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 04:55, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 9:51 PM James Cook wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 14:53, Jason Cobb wrote: > > > On 8/4/19 2:57 AM, James Cook wrote: > > > > I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I submit the following rule to the > > > > contest: >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Astronomor] State of the Universe

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/5/19 1:35 AM, James Cook wrote: Our business being concluded, I cease being a party to the contract called "Space Shenanigans 2: Electric Boogaloo". Thanks, Jason Cobb! No problem! :) (I'm trying not to lose track of what contracts I'm a party to. I *think* there are now none.) I've