Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-28 Thread square87
Personally i think that we should remove the feature: color text depends on the user's state. About the buddy icons we should use colored icons... i don't care if they are wlm2009-like or not. *Square87* 2009/3/27 Gustavo A. Díaz gustavo.d...@gmail.com I've read about the nicknames, but i

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-28 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
2009/3/28 square87 squar...@gmail.com Personally i think that we should remove the feature: color text depends on the user's state. About the buddy icons we should use colored icons... i don't care if they are wlm2009-like or not. As you can see in the screenshot, that is already done in

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-27 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
To 4# Yes, images has a little bit more of Saturation... agree that should have less. When deleted the box images speeds up way faster the skin, is why i did. About the state colors of the buddies, is like latest WLM does, and i think is pretty more simple than adding an extra icon next to the

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-27 Thread Youness Alaoui
No, I wasn't talking about the buddy icons, I was talking about the color of the nicknames! Just the fact that the text gets colored depending on the state! That's why I said black :p Yes the images should have less saturation, but the text also should be more subtle... Also, WLM doesn't color

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-27 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
I've read about the nicknames, but i thought you referred to buddy icons too was well. 2009/3/27 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net No, I wasn't talking about the buddy icons, I was talking about the color of the nicknames! Just the fact that the text gets colored depending on the

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-26 Thread square87
Hi Montblanc Btw we need to have always a default skin to avoid problem with the code... Then the user can choose/download every skin he just wants... We already talked about a wizard but the ideas doesn't like to everyone, the same for Did You Know? *Square87* 2009/3/26 Montblanc

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-26 Thread Boris billiob Faure
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:52, Vivia Nikolaidou n.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Since we had talked about that in the past, a general impression was: The Minimal skin should be default, in order to have lower memory consumption. The way the Linux kernel is made, even if we load the Minimal skin on

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-26 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Since we had talked about that in the past, a general impression was: The Minimal skin should be default, in order to have lower memory consumption. The way the Linux kernel is made, even if we load the Minimal skin on top of the default one, the memory won't be returned to the system - and yes,

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-26 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Boris billiob Faure wrote: I fully agree : minimal by default + ship Sapphire. OK - which version of Sapphire? IIRC this is the most recent screenshot of the most recent version: http://amsn.lnxteam.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sapphire25-alt.png Should we make a

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-26 Thread Mirko Hansen
Minimal skin as default skin? Well, I don't know if that's a good idea. There are many people that rate software after their first look, so if they see our great screenshots on the homepage, download it and then only see aMSN with the minimal skin, it's not the best first impression. Sure they can

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-26 Thread Youness Alaoui
Ok, well my opinion is this : 1 - Ship only one skin.. adding more skins will just make our download file bigger, no need for that when users don't care. 2 - I don't like the minimal skin, I tried it, and it's dead ugly, I do not believe that it represents aMSN properly! It is also a skin based

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-25 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
The one I asked/wrote on top of these emails... you need some glassed KKRT :P If users/devs/whatever wants to include the improved Sapphire skin, just let me know and i will try to finish the small details before amsn 0.98 to be released Cheers. 2009/3/23 Youness Alaoui

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-25 Thread Youness Alaoui
well, technically, that wasn't a question, it was a conditional statement... and anyways, I don't know, you'd have to ask people on the forums what they think! 2009/3/25 Gustavo A. Díaz gustavo.d...@gmail.com The one I asked/wrote on top of these emails... you need some glassed KKRT :P If

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-25 Thread Montblanc
Excuse me but I couldn't avoid listening to your conversation... :P I think defaulting to Minimal and/or adding a Welcome wizard to let users set the most common preferences and skin should be the best compromise. For example, they could choose between Sapphire (no need to explain) / Minimal (high

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-25 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
Always the same KRRT I know what is it... is just a way to say that was a question... period. I am not asking just to users, to devs too, since Sapphire skin was once choose but you guys... So i ask... Cheers. 2009/3/25 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net well, technically,

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-23 Thread Youness Alaoui
what question ? 2009/3/22 Gustavo A. Díaz gustavo.d...@gmail.com Hi, Will someone respond my question? Thanks. 2009/3/16 Gustavo A. Díaz gustavo.d...@gmail.com Hi, BTW guys, I've already removed the 90% of the box* images on the new Sapphire (only keept the top ones), and amsn is

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-22 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
Hi, Will someone respond my question? Thanks. 2009/3/16 Gustavo A. Díaz gustavo.d...@gmail.com Hi, BTW guys, I've already removed the 90% of the box* images on the new Sapphire (only keept the top ones), and amsn is already faster rendering the CL window... Anyone could test on my

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-16 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
Hi, BTW guys, I've already removed the 90% of the box* images on the new Sapphire (only keept the top ones), and amsn is already faster rendering the CL window... Anyone could test on my posted SVN around the ML Now, if someone care to respond most of my post, will be could. If

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-16 Thread square87
Hello Gustavo (nice name, in italian is a verb...) [?] So i do some work for the skin, in your case i want to inform you that i added some new options in setting.xml In particular i added groupbox by default is 1 and it means draw the internal of groupbox, if it is 0 it ignore box_boby left

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-03-16 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
Ok great, but anyway i've deleted those image from the new Skin (still svg sources exist as well...). I dont think that someone wants to have a cpu hunger skin in aMSN... :P Good work. I must update the svn of amsn... Cheers. 2009/3/16 square87 squar...@gmail.com Hello Gustavo (nice name, in

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-02-01 Thread Karel Demeyer
I think Youness is on the same wavelength as I am. Please don't crowd the preferences dialog with all kinds of options only 0,05% of our users might want and that could upset/de-orientate 99,95% of our userbase. I you really think these options would make a difference for a lot of users, create a

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-02-01 Thread square87
Sorry Kakaroto, but it's not the same thing to have an user option or a skin option? I'd prefer user option because a skin option it's a little bit hided... the same is for underline it's a nice feature, but if an user want it he should edit the xml skin file... and it's not simply for all

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-02-01 Thread Youness Alaoui
The reason why I want it to be a skin option instead of a user option is simply to avoid having too many options... a while ago (a few years already) we had decided that if we ever need to add a new option, we would remove one too.. that's why we didn't have a lot of options added to the

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-02-01 Thread Stéphane Bisinger
Hi, 2009/2/1 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net: The reason why I want it to be a skin option instead of a user option is simply to avoid having too many options... a while ago (a few years already) we had decided that if we ever need to add a new option, we would remove one too..

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-02-01 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Karel Demeyer karel.deme...@gmail.comwrote: I think Youness is on the same wavelength as I am. Please don't crowd the preferences dialog with all kinds of options only 0,05% of our users might want and that could upset/de-orientate 99,95% of our userbase. I

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-02-01 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Stéphane Bisinger stephane.bisin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/2/1 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net: The reason why I want it to be a skin option instead of a user option is simply to avoid having too many options... a while ago (a few years

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-01-31 Thread square87
I don't know what is better. It depends from user... if he has many users or not, if he likes an eye candy skin or a light skin... so personally i don't know. But maybe a poll should be: do you want to put a skin wizard? do you want put in amsn both skins and then the user chooses? For you what

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-01-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
No, options is not a good idea... I think the user must have a fast skin, that's it... what makes it so slow is the fact that we have that many options to check everytime we're drawing... The most CPU consuming processes I think are : 1 - dealing with transparency.. so alpha blending in images

Re: [Amsn-devel] Skin improvements (was 0.98 TODO)

2009-01-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
We should either update the skin, or change the skin... I suggest a vote... Changing the skin (to the minimal skin) : pros : Much faster aMSN!!! Smaller binary size cons : Not the same eye candy.. Users don't like stuff that change too much... I don't vote yet as I don't know... however, it