Re: [Apertium-stuff] Tagset Standardization

El 2023-06-07 16:19, Daniel Swanson va escriure: Greetings Apertiumers! I've been reminded that derivational morphology exists, which throws a wrench in my desire for full position-independent tags. I've also been reminded that some repos have .udx files which specify a conversion between

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Stepping down from my position in the PMC

El 2023-05-29 15:33, Tanmai Khanna va escriure: Hi all, Just wanted to make an official announcement that I will be stepping down from my position in the Project Management Committee. I have really enjoyed my time at Apertium, from GSoC projects to Google Code-In mentorship and have no regrets

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Released: nno-nob 1.5.0

El 2022-10-26 11:38, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer va escriure: Hi, I've tagged new releases of nno, nob and apertium-nno-nob. As before, work has been funded by the Norwegian Ministry of Culture via Nynorsk pressekontor (NPK) and the Norwegian News Agency, with commits from contributors Mari,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium PMC Election: Census & Candidates

El 2022-04-19 12:20, Tino Didriksen va escriure: G'day everyone, It is almost time to vote for the https://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Project_Management_Committee again, but first some introductory motions, namely updating the census and calling for candidates. Actual election will start in a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] R: Re: translation error

El 2022-03-03 19:05, Silvia Lombardini via Apertium-stuff va escriure: I find Apertium while working on meta-wiki transazioni. I don't know which version do I have. Can you share with us how you are using Apertium? Through some external interface, how do you access the translations ? Best

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Lang pair rus-ukr

El 2022-02-05 11:54, Nazar Kotsur va escriure: Should words be sent in initial form as they are in the dictionaries, or in forms after declension also? Are there chats other than in IRC in more modern and convenient messengers? ___ Apertium-stuff

Re: [Apertium-stuff] #apertium is now on OFTC

A 2021-05-27 15:34, Tino Didriksen escrigué: Git repos are now all updated, and while I was at it I also fixed other pending URL changes such as http -> https and apertium.com [2] -> apertium.org [3] ...and I've fixed the mishaps that an unguarded s/apertium.com/apertium.org/g [4] caused. --

Re: [Apertium-stuff] EMNLP 2021

A 2021-05-06 12:40, Hèctor Alòs i Font escrigué: EMNLP 2021 SIXTH CONFERENCE ON MACHINE TRANSLATION (WMT21) November 10-11, 2021 Punta Cana, Dominican Republic SHARED TASK: UNSUPERVISED MT AND VERY LOW RESOURCE SUPERVISED MT There is no machine translation available for most of the ~7000

[Apertium-stuff] Fwd: [Corpora-List] Workshop LINGUATEC: Resources and tools for the automatic processing of the languages of the Pyrenees

Could be relevant to Apertiumers! Fran Missatge Original Assumpte: [Corpora-List] Workshop LINGUATEC: Resources and tools for the automatic processing of the languages of the Pyrenees Data: 2021-04-30 10:27 Remitent: Itziar Aldabe Destinatari: corp...@uib.no Workshop

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Released: nno-nob 1.4.0

A 2021-04-29 11:54, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer escrigué: Hi, I've tagged some new releases of nno, nob and apertium-nno-nob. Like before[0], the work has been funded by the Norwegian Ministry of Culture via Nynorsk pressekontor (NPK) and the Norwegian News Agency, now with direct commits from

Re: [Apertium-stuff] IRC

A 2021-03-27 05:05, VIVEK VICKY escrigué: Now, it says cannot send to this channel Regards Vivek On Sat, 27 Mar, 2021, 10:31 am Francis Tyers via Apertium-stuff, wrote: A 2021-03-27 04:50, Anuradha Pandey escrigué: Yes, I'm facing the same problem. Precisely, this : Thanks, Anuradha

Re: [Apertium-stuff] IRC

A 2021-03-27 04:50, Anuradha Pandey escrigué: Yes, I'm facing the same problem. Precisely, this : Thanks, Anuradha. On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 at 10:16, VIVEK VICKY wrote: Hello, Is IRC down? Unable to join it. Says need invite Regards, vivek vardhan adepu IRC: naan_dhaan or vivekvelda

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Lexical Selection

A 2021-03-23 10:49, Helena Egea Piñeiro escrigué: Hola! Quería preguntar sobre la diferencia de la selección léxica de apertium 3.2 a 3.3. En un hilo anterior pedía como sería posible obtener varias opciones de traducción como "Tengo mucho trabajo" > "Tinc molta feina/treball". Para esto seguí

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Working on bootstrapping a new pair

El 2021-01-26 12:00, Anuradha Pandey escribió: Hello, I came across apertium a month back, and I really liked the concept of machine translation of such rare languages. I wanted to contribute, so I decided to bootstrap a new language pair(bho-eng). Bhojpuri(bho) is a native Indian language. I

Re: [Apertium-stuff] mapping Apertium tags to reference tagsets - help needed

El 2020-12-16 12:48, Francis Tyers escribió: El 2020-12-16 11:43, Jorge Gracia escribió: Dear Apertium community, As part of the European H2020 Prêt-à-LLOD project [1], we at University of Zaragoza and Goethe University Frankfurt have been working on a new version of the Apertium family

Re: [Apertium-stuff] mapping Apertium tags to reference tagsets - help needed

El 2020-12-16 11:43, Jorge Gracia escribió: Dear Apertium community, As part of the European H2020 Prêt-à-LLOD project [1], we at University of Zaragoza and Goethe University Frankfurt have been working on a new version of the Apertium family of dictionaries in RDF, with the final aim of making

Re: [Apertium-stuff] A talk evaluating Apertium

El 2020-10-19 08:08, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer escribió: Or just call the NMT system "NMT+apertium" =P +1 :D F. ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff

[Apertium-stuff] Apertium on Colab!

Hi all, Vincent Vandeghinste made a version of the new language pair HOWTO using Google Colab: https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1GxkwVzPMT-gm1zYv8MzWtRgEzCou8pPn?usp=sharing It might be interesting for Apertiumers who would like to demonstrate Apertium to people without them having

[Apertium-stuff] Apertium on Colab?

Hi all, I just got this message from Vincent Vandeghinste: "Hi Fran, Hope you are alright. For a course I am teaching, I would like to introduce some RBMT through Apertium. Is there by any chance a way to setup Apertium in Google Colab, so I can use that environment, and the students won't

Re: [Apertium-stuff] let's move the mailing lists to sourcehut

El 2020-09-23 15:03, Jonathan Washington escribió: One other question: Will it be possible to move existing apertium-stuff (and PMC, etc) archives to the new location? Or would we be starting over with those archives? I think the PMC list is a distribution list, not a mailing list, so we

Re: [Apertium-stuff] let's move the mailing lists to sourcehut

El 2020-09-21 15:07, Tino Didriksen escribió: On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 10:10, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: Considering the trouble people have just setting up their own e-mail server without getting constantly spam-listed by other people's Gmail accounts – and the fact that the mailing lists

Re: [Apertium-stuff] let's move the mailing lists to sourcehut

El 2020-09-21 11:13, Flammie A Pirinen escribió: On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 07:44:25PM -0700, Samuel Sloniker wrote: I've also thought about the possibility of a forum? Forums can be nice but I think have different function than mailing list.. Discourse looks nice. Is this

Re: [Apertium-stuff] let's move the mailing lists to sourcehut

El 2020-09-20 20:03, Tino Didriksen escribió: We could host our own lists and other groupware. No reason to outsource it, and it would give 100% control. -- Tino Didriksen On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 19:04, Francis Tyers wrote: Sourcehut is a free/open-source "forge" type thing r

Re: [Apertium-stuff] let's move the mailing lists to sourcehut

El 2020-09-20 18:46, Mikel L. Forcada escribió: Fran: could you be more specific about the "terrible stuff"? I understand there is no mailing list as such in GitHub, or is there? Cheers Mikel Terrible stuff: - Can't subscribe using email, can only subscribe through the web interface,

[Apertium-stuff] let's move the mailing lists to sourcehut

Sourcehut is a free/open-source "forge" type thing run by Drew DeVault. They have mailing lists. Our current mailing lists are with SourceForge and all of the terrible stuff that goes with that. Here is a link: https://lists.sr.ht/ What do people think? Fran

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Fixing Phonological Processes

El 2020-09-14 07:27, Flammie A Pirinen escribió: On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 03:18:44PM +0200, Zanga Chimombo wrote: Hello again, I've had a bit of time to continue looking at this. I've copied over something from: https://github.com/apertium/apertium-lin/blob/master/apertium-lin.lin.twol %{K%}:k

Re: [Apertium-stuff] The French-Arpitan translator is ready to be packed

El 2020-09-01 15:29, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: As a result of this year's GSoC, I've prepared a French-Arpitan bidirectional translator. In principle, it is ready to be packed. It uses apertium-separator and this summer's improvements of apertium-lex-tools done by Daniel Swanson. A bit of a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Segmentation Fault

El 2020-08-27 09:49, Zanga Chimombo escribió: Just in case anybody else runs into this problem, it seems related to the *.prob file that is created with apertium-init. I am not paying too much attention to it because I am going to use CG to start off with, however, check the file size. If it is

Re: [Apertium-stuff] We now have markup handling and reordering in Apertium!

El 2020-08-27 09:54, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer escribió: Tanmai Khanna čálii: Hmm, well then I guess for now the small list of tags that still exist as blanks have to be printed using the option. I could change it so that it flushes all blanks, or keeps them in their position if possible.

[Apertium-stuff] Fwd: Re: [Apertium-contact] Llargada traduccions

Mensaje Original Asunto: Re: [Apertium-contact] Llargada traduccions Fecha: 2020-07-28 13:02 De: Josep Ferrer Destinatario: Francis Tyers ¿Hi ha instruccions d'instal·lació en català? Una salutació Josep Ferrer El 28/07/2020 a las 13:53, Francis Tyers escribió: El

[Apertium-stuff] Fwd: Call for papers: The Third Workshop on Technologies for MT of Low Resource Languages (LoResMT 2020) @AACL-IJCNLP

Mensaje Original Asunto: Call for papers: The Third Workshop on Technologies for MT of Low Resource Languages (LoResMT 2020) @AACL-IJCNLP Fecha: 2020-07-04 22:23 De: Chao-Hong Destinatario: THE THIRD WORKSHOP ON TECHNOLOGIES FOR MT OF LOW RESOURCE LANGUAGES (LORESMT 2020)

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Get a glossary from a TMX memory

El 2020-06-28 11:27, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: I think nobody answered to this post. Gianfranco has a problem in getting bilingual dictionaries from OmegaT and loading them into the Apertium dictionaries. As far as I understood, he tried:

[Apertium-stuff] morpheme or segment/morph boundaries in lttoolbox

Hello all, I've just implemented a new feature for lttoolbox where you can mark morph or segment boundaries. The motivation is described in this issue: https://github.com/apertium/lttoolbox/issues/89 The approximate idea is that I would like to be able to represent the information for

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Semantics in Apertium (was Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags)

El 2020-06-18 07:59, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Missatge de Francis Tyers del dia dj., 18 de juny 2020 a les 1:59: El 2020-06-17 21:46, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Missatge de Hèctor Alòs i Font del dia dc., 17 de juny 2020 a les 23:36: Missatge de Francis Tyers del dia dc., 17 de

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Semantics in Apertium (was Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags)

El 2020-06-17 21:36, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Missatge de Francis Tyers del dia dc., 17 de juny 2020 a les 21:12: El 2020-06-15 17:38, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Here come several practical examples. I tried to select them for their variety. The result is more a wish list than

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Semantics in Apertium (was Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags)

El 2020-06-17 21:46, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Missatge de Hèctor Alòs i Font del dia dc., 17 de juny 2020 a les 23:36: Missatge de Francis Tyers del dia dc., 17 de juny 2020 a les 21:12: El 2020-06-15 17:38, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Here come several practical examples. I tried

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Semantics in Apertium (was Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags)

El 2020-06-15 17:38, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Here come several practical examples. I tried to select them for their variety. The result is more a wish list than something structured. These really are great! Thanks :) Sorry the reply has taken so long. Let's begin with "je la baise".

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Semantics in Apertium (was Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags)

El 2020-06-15 17:38, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Here come several practical examples. I tried to select them for their variety. The result is more a wish list than something structured. Let's begin with "je la baise". Depending on the context this may be "I kiss her" or "I fuck her". The

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Semantics in Apertium (was Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags)

El 2020-06-15 17:13, Xavi Ivars escribió: Missatge de Francis Tyers del dia dl., 15 de juny 2020 a les 17:26: [...] And pass it to the lexical selection module which will choose the one with the highest weight. This would mean a new module, but it would require only minor changes

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Semantics in Apertium (was Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags)

El 2020-06-15 15:02, Xavi Ivars escribió: Hello, To decouple conversations on how to store secondary information from the use case I had in mind (that can be achieved regardless or how we store and propagate that data), let me explain how I see this functionality working, but using some sort of

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-14 19:40, Jonathan Washington escribió: I could see another way to treat cases like mango¹/mango² or ат¹/ат². If we were to eventually have a module that holds other arbitrary information through the pipeline, you could have tags added in the transducer that are immediately

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-14 11:51, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Missatge de Francis Tyers del dia dg., 14 de juny 2020 a les 10:32: El 2020-06-13 23:18, Jonathan Washington escribió: On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 16:05 Francis Tyers wrote: El 2020-06-13 19:31, Xavi Ivars escribió: Before anything, let me

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-14 11:51, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: Missatge de Francis Tyers del dia dg., 14 de juny 2020 a les 10:32: El 2020-06-13 23:18, Jonathan Washington escribió: On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 16:05 Francis Tyers wrote: El 2020-06-13 19:31, Xavi Ivars escribió: Before anything, let me

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-13 15:20, Tino Didriksen escribió: I would like everyone to read and seriously consider this thread and give your opinion. This meanders a bit, so please read it all. Khannatanmai's GSoC project that initially had the headline of eliminating trimming has led to what I feel is a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-13 23:18, Jonathan Washington escribió: On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 16:05 Francis Tyers wrote: El 2020-06-13 19:31, Xavi Ivars escribió: Before anything, let me say that I like the proposal to enhance the pipeline with more data (including, but not limited to the surface forms

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-13 18:43, Jonathan Washington escribió: 13 iyn 2020, Ş. tarixində 13:15 tarixində yazdı: Tino Didriksen wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 17:50, Francis Tyers wrote: > > > As far as I understand the objective is to be able > > to > > put the original su

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-13 17:09, Jonathan Washington escribió: On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 11:50 Francis Tyers wrote: El 2020-06-13 15:20, Tino Didriksen escribió: I would like everyone to read and seriously consider this thread and give your opinion. This meanders a bit, so please read it all. Here

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-13 15:20, Tino Didriksen escribió: I would like everyone to read and seriously consider this thread and give your opinion. This meanders a bit, so please read it all. Here is a non-exhaustive list of potential pitfalls of using the "surface form is a tag" thing. As far as I

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

El 2020-06-13 15:20, Tino Didriksen escribió: I would like everyone to read and seriously consider this thread and give your opinion. This meanders a bit, so please read it all. This email does not do credit to my objections and concerns with the proposal. Fran

Re: [Apertium-stuff] ADDCOHORT in Constraint Grammar

El 2020-05-28 09:52, Jaume Ortolà i Font escribió: Hi, I'm using ADDCOHORT to add a word "que" in the Spanish sentence "ruego me perdonen". ADDCOHORT:ruego_que ("" "que" cnjsub) AFTER (vblex) (0 VerbsRogar) (0 (p1)) (1 Vblex + Pers); $ echo "Ruego me perdonen" | apertium -d . spa-cat Prego

Re: [Apertium-stuff] How useful is eliminating trimming for language developers?

El 2020-05-26 12:27, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer escribió: Xavi Ivars čálii: * In the trimming disadvantages number 1, we're stating that we're OK having crappy monodixes because we *fix* that later on with trimming. I'm sure that's where we are now, but as a project that focuses a lot on

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Secondary Tag Prefixes

El 2020-05-10 14:51, Samuel Sloniker escribió: Would it be worth designing a parsing library? On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 3:15 AM Flammie A Pirinen wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 04:50:45PM +0200, Tino Didriksen wrote: For khannatanmai's GSoC project, secondary tags will be implemented in a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Secondary Tag Prefixes

El 2020-05-08 15:50, Tino Didriksen escribió: For khannatanmai's GSoC project, secondary tags will be implemented in a backwards compatible manner. That it in itself indisputable. But, there is a question of how the initial batch of secondary tags should look. I feel they should be in the form

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Word flexions from morphological information. from be get is

El 2020-05-06 09:40, egea piñeiro helena escribió: Hello! I wanted to ask for a tool, if it exists in apertium already, to create the words with their flexions from a lexical unit with its gramatical and morphological information. And the same with verbs to get the right conjugation. For

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Strange Swedish nouns in apertium-swe.swe.dix

El 2020-04-24 14:48, Per Tunedal escribió: Hi, I've found some strange nouns in my list of Swedish nouns from apertium-swe.swe.dix: arna arnas arnas- ars ars- What's that? And a misspelled word: Södermalmvåning should be: Södermalmsvåning Yours, Per Tunedal Dear Per, Please feel free to

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Modifying the apertium stream format to include arbitrary information

El 2020-04-20 19:21, Daniel Swanson escribió: Another way of putting this is that it looks like a technical solution in search of a problem, rather than a problem description in search of a solution. To me the most obvious thing to do with it is to put markup information in secondary tags as

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Modifying the apertium stream format to include arbitrary information

El 2020-04-20 19:14, Francis Tyers escribió: El 2020-04-20 19:05, Tanmai Khanna escribió: Hey guys, When I proposed the modification to the Apertium stream format earlier, it was rightly pointed out to be a bit premature and not coupled with adequate justification. As part of preparation for my

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Modifying the apertium stream format to include arbitrary information

El 2020-04-20 19:05, Tanmai Khanna escribió: Hey guys, When I proposed the modification to the Apertium stream format earlier, it was rightly pointed out to be a bit premature and not coupled with adequate justification. As part of preparation for my project, I have tried to document the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Modifying the apertium stream format to include arbitrary information

El 2020-03-29 11:21, Mikel L. Forcada escribió: Folks: The elders in Apertium will not be surprised if I voiced my opposition to changing the format in the Apertium formats used between different modules of the pipeline. In any case, this is affects the core functionality of Apertium in many

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC

El 2020-03-25 08:46, Andrew Briand escribió: Hello, I am an undergrad interested in adopting an Apertium language pair for Google Summer of Code 2020. I am most interested in French<->English, Esperanto->English, and Esperanto<->French. What might a project for those language pairs look like?

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC-2020

El 2020-03-06 15:27, Himanshu choudhary escribió: Thank you. I will look into it. On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, 2:03 PM Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: Himanshu choudhary čálii: Also can you please give me an overview of how and where I can use the neural methods in Apertium. I am really

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC 2020 idea

:49 Francis Tyers wrote: El 2020-03-06 08:40, Rajarshi Roychoudhury escribió: Hi, I have written my idea in the file attached . It is just the idea , not the project proposal . Kindly read the idea and give feedback on whether this can be a feasible GSoC project. Best, Rajarshi Please do

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC 2020 idea

El 2020-03-06 08:40, Rajarshi Roychoudhury escribió: Hi, I have written my idea in the file attached . It is just the idea , not the project proposal . Kindly read the idea and give feedback on whether this can be a feasible GSoC project. Best, Rajarshi Please do not use proprietary formats

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium elections coming up.

I will put myself down for president this time, and +1 to Tino's points. Fran El 2020-02-26 13:36, Jonathan Washington escribió: Thanks for calling the election, Mikel. It was pointed out on IRC during GCI that it was time to run an election again, but everyone was busy with GCI so it didn't

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium GSoC 2020? Deadline Feb 5th

El 2020-01-28 15:08, Tino Didriksen escribió: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ is open for organization applications, until February 5th. Are we participating in 2020? Who's up for mentoring and administrating? Previous years at this stage we've at least talked about it, but this year it's

Re: [Apertium-stuff] bootstrap a new pair With two existing monolingual packages

El 2020-01-10 11:21, Ridouane Tachicart escribió: Hi I have a problem. after compiling and g enerating the monolingual packages bel and rus succefully I Then compile the pair with ./autogen.sh --with-lang1=../apertium-bel --with-lang2=../apertium-rus make -j but i have this errors:

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Kurmanji apertium data upload

El 2019-12-19 17:26, Sakine Cabuk Balli escribió: Dear Apertium team, I am working on the acquisition of Kurmanji as a first language. I have transcribed my data in ELAN (https://tla.mpi.nl/tools/tla-tools/elan/download/). I would like to use apertium kmr for my data of Kurmanji Kurdish and do

Re: [Apertium-stuff] New site design

El 2019-12-18 15:13, Scoop Gracie escribió: Unhammer: no, not yet Tyers: Where? on the repo? you need to run `gatsby develop` (after installing gatsby as explained in it's docs) in the `apertium-site` subdirectory of the repo. On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 3:27 AM Francis Tyers wrote: El 2019-12

Re: [Apertium-stuff] New site design

El 2019-12-18 10:20, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer escribió: Scoop Gracie čálii: Please check out https://github.com/scoopgracie/apertium-site/! It is my new design for an Apertium site. It's a Gatsby app based on React. I haven't documented it yet, but a look at

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Separate Corpus Repos

El 2019-12-12 09:16, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer escribió: Tino Didriksen čálii: I would like for corpus and other indirect data to go in separate repositories. Basically, if the data is not used during the build, it should go elsewhere. What if it's used during `make test`? By the same

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Released: nno-nob 1.3.0, swe-dan 0.8.1, swe-nor 0.3.1, dan-nor 1.4.1

El 2019-11-29 14:25, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer escribió: Hi, I've just tagged new versions for release of the Scandinavian pairs, they should be heading up to apertium.org and Github soon. As before[1], the work comes courtesy of Nynorsk pressekontor / NPK and the Norwegian News Agency / NTB,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Updating the Apertium 2-page brochure

El 2019-11-07 00:00, Jonathan Washington escribió: Aha! The organisation repo indeed might be the right place for these things. What do others think? -- Jonathan ср, 6 нояб. 2019 г. в 15:04, Xavi Ivars : I like the idea of having all these materials in a "promotional-materials" repo (even

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Help with error

El 2019-10-25 16:38, kiran srigiri escribió: Could you elaborate that Remember to use --with-lang1 and --with-lang2 F. ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net

[Apertium-stuff] Fwd: [Mt-list] Special Issue on Machine Translation for Low-Resource Languages

We should definitely send a paper on Apertium to this. It has been 10 years since the last one and a lot of things have happened since then! F. -- Forwarded message - De: Andy Way Date: dv., 18 d’oct. 2019 a les 19:58 Subject: [Mt-list] Special Issue on Machine Translation for

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Access to Apertium Incubator is Forbidden

El 2019-10-17 07:50, Zanga Chimombo escribió: I have done: python3 apertium-init.py -p NYA It's recommended to use lower-case three letter codes, e.g. nya not NYA. But I get: Failed to create GitHub repository: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden. Do I need to be added as a user the Apertium

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Prototype of English to Hausa translation pair

El 2019-10-17 09:20, kiran srigiri escribió: I have bootstrapped and complied both English and Hausa language for inter-translation. It will be great help if anyone could install and use to find any issues. Link to my GitHub repository - https://github.com/Kiransrigiri/apertium-eng-hau

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Python Module Names

El 2019-10-14 08:34, Sushain Cherivirala escribió: I'm guessing python3-apertium is the name of the new library from this GsoC. What is this other package, apertium-python? apt show gives me nothing. python3-apertium as Tino is referring to it is the SWIG/Python bindings for

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Python Module Names

El 2019-10-13 11:27, Tino Didriksen escribió: https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-module_packages.html#s-package_names The package python3-apertium must provide the Python module apertium, but it provides apertium_core. I can fix this by either adding an alias

Re: [Apertium-stuff] TransducerHasWrongTypeException

El 2019-09-04 17:39, Zanga Chimombo escribió: Will do shortly although there's not much as I am just getting started. I have seen the pipeline in the modes.xml file so I will also pick through that. Thanks! On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 6:35 PM Francis Tyers wrote: El 2019-09-04 10:51, Zanga

Re: [Apertium-stuff] TransducerHasWrongTypeException

El 2019-09-04 10:51, Zanga Chimombo escribió: I am following the instructions at the How_to_bootstrap_a_new_pair and The_quick_and_dirty_guide_to_making_a_new_language_pair wikis using HFST for both languages. After a bit of tweaking the following test command in the bilingual directory works:

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC19 - Unsupervised weighting of automata progress update

El 2019-07-24 14:34, Amr Mohamed Hosny Anwar escribió: On 7/22/19 9:32 PM, Francis Tyers wrote: El 2019-07-21 22:50, Amr Mohamed Hosny Anwar escribió: Dear Francis, Nick, Tommi, Hope this mail finds you well. I would like to share with the blog posts that I have used to document

Re: [Apertium-stuff] recursive transfer mode name

El 2019-07-23 03:32, Jonathan Washington escribió: Hi everyone, The recursive transfer GSoC project is progressing nicely, and it's anticipated that a release will occur at the end of GSoC. It's very exciting! We'd like to add debug mode support to Apertium for recursive transfer, via the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC19 - Unsupervised weighting of automata progress update

El 2019-07-21 22:50, Amr Mohamed Hosny Anwar escribió: Dear Francis, Nick, Tommi, Hope this mail finds you well. I would like to share with the blog posts that I have used to document the project's progress. Firstly, The scores for the implemented methods that are computed using a custom script

Re: [Apertium-stuff] [Pd: Implementing apertium-html-tools]

El 2019-07-20 22:31, Francis Tyers escribió: El 2019-07-20 22:18, Grzegorz Kulik escribió: I figured it out! The "index.eng.html" part, I mean. The translator is not in testing anymore, so I moved it to https://silling.org/translator I still don't know how to approach the other tw

Re: [Apertium-stuff] [Pd: Implementing apertium-html-tools]

El 2019-07-20 22:18, Grzegorz Kulik escribió: I figured it out! The "index.eng.html" part, I mean. The translator is not in testing anymore, so I moved it to https://silling.org/translator I still don't know how to approach the other two problems. If anyone could help, I would really appreciate

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Fwd: Re: Still problems with "una"

El 2019-07-17 13:23, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: I'm working on it. The problem in the disambiguation of "una" in Spanish (the indefinite article!), that is in a component of Apertium that is common with the very used apertium-spa-cat (that's why I want to test well the patch in order not to

[Apertium-stuff] Fwd: Re: Still problems with "una"

Mensaje Original Asunto: Re: Still problems with "una" Fecha: 2019-07-17 11:43 De: Elisardo Destinatario: Francis Tyers Sorry for bother you, but problem persists... :( I translated "Una casa en la playa. Una persona en el mar." and the result was &qu

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Lexical selection rule learning questions

El 2019-06-14 05:43, Jonathan Washington escribió: чт, 13 июн. 2019 г. в 20:54, Francis Tyers : El 2019-06-13 22:34, Danielle Rossetti Dos Santos escribió: Hello, I'm working with the monolingual transfer rule learning code and have a few questions: 1. I see some language pairs used

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Lexical selection rule learning questions

El 2019-06-13 22:34, Danielle Rossetti Dos Santos escribió: Hello, I'm working with the monolingual transfer rule learning code and have a few questions: 1. I see some language pairs used to have a multi mode (such as in this old version of eng-cat [1]). They also used to have "poly"

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Issue translating "una" from spanish to galician

On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 at 04:14, Francis Tyers wrote: El 2019-06-10 21:38, Elisardo escribió: I tested it at the web. Bye, I believe you can install it yourself. Alternatively, someone needs to update the installation that the web uses. I'm afraid I don't know how to do that. But someone on A

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Issue translating "una" from spanish to galician

El 2019-06-10 21:38, Elisardo escribió: I tested it at the web. Bye, I believe you can install it yourself. Alternatively, someone needs to update the installation that the web uses. I'm afraid I don't know how to do that. But someone on Apertium stuff should, or alternatively someone on IRC:

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Issue translating "una" from spanish to galician

El 2019-06-10 14:02, Elisardo escribió: Hi Francis, I have just tested the Apertium translation of "una" from spanish to galician, and it still is wrong. I tryed to translate "Voy para casa y llevo una caja." and the result was "Vou para casa e levo una caixa." The word "una" isn't translated,

[Apertium-stuff] Fwd: [Corpora-List] FSMNLP2019: call for papers

Relevant venue for Apertiumers :) F. Mensaje Original Asunto: [Corpora-List] FSMNLP2019: call for papers Fecha: 2019-06-05 16:23 De: Anssi Yli-Jyrä Destinatario: Corpora list Responder a: anssi.yli-j...@helsinki.fi FSMNLP 2019: The 14th International Conference on

[Apertium-stuff] Fwd: CLDR v36 open for data submission

Relevant for Apertiumers... this is a good time to start getting your language into CLDR! F. Mensaje Original Asunto: CLDR v36 open for data submission Fecha: 2019-06-03 18:56 De: announceme...@unicode.org Destinatario: announceme...@unicode.org Responder a: r...@unicode.org

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Fwd: Improve apertium-ambiguous

El 2019-04-29 12:21, Aboelhamd Aly escribió: -- Forwarded message - From: ABOELHAMD ALY Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019, 03:14 Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Improve apertium-ambiguous To: Hi all, Our last evaluation was as follows : Our scores are better than apertium's LRLM in WER

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Improve apertium-ambiguous

El 2019-04-23 20:32, Sevilay Bayatlı escribió: One more thing you could try is doing a "semi-oracle" system: Make the translations, and choose the one that is closest to the reference translation. What is the best score can you get? Thanks for your comments, they are useful, with the comment

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Improve apertium-ambiguous

El 2019-04-23 10:27, Sevilay Bayatlı escribió: Hi everyone, We want to improve apertium-ambiguous for getting more better result, there are more than options for that, either by improve it linguistically or using new learning method. The first solutions is possible in such cases: 1- pretty

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium.org certificate problems?

El 2019-04-12 19:06, Sushain Cherivirala escribió: Okay, I've fixed and re-enabled HTTPS for apertium.org [2]. For posterity: 1. Run pip --version, discover pip is 18 versions old. Uninstall pip from package manager and install via get-pip.py. 2. Run virtualenv --version, discover virtualenv is

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium.org certificate problems?

El 2019-04-12 08:17, Sushain Cherivirala escribió: Hi Mikel, Unfortunately, the certificate expired a couple weeks ago. I chatted with Fran a couple days ago and attempted to fix it. However, the Let's Encrypt client software doesn't work well with the old version of Debian installed on xixona

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium.org certificate problems?

El 2019-04-12 08:28, Mikel L. Forcada escribió: Thanks Fran and Sushain. I am not sure how I can help. Migrating to another server, updating, and making everything work sounds OK to me. I would just have to redirect the DNS when it's ready. I think Apertium could pay for this job. But we need

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