Fearghas McKay wrote:
On 8 Oct 2009, at 23:48, Steve Jolly wrote:
PS If you ever bump into him in person, do buy him a beer...
Whenever I bump into him he is never drinks beer...
Or valid beer substitute...
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Steve Jolly wrote:
A year or less strikes me as too little because too many people would
just wait until it was free. 5-10 years seems like a more realistic
minimum in that regard. Mind you, I think that copyright terms would
vary by medium, ideally.
It's free from
Billy Abbott wrote:
I would like a pony.
That sounds somewhat easier: there are more ponies in the world than
Google Wave invites.
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Fearghas McKay wrote:
Since there is no obvious list admin please accept my apologies for
posting this to the list
Ian Forrester is paid a miserly pittance from our license fees to put up
with us on this mailing list, and likes nothing better than to receive
admin requests in person.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/09/17/pure-sensia-digital-radio-first-look/
Linux-based radio with touchscreen and app support. Not sure I like
the styling and it's a bit pricey, but it's an interesting product,
certainly...
Since it has Twitter support, no doubt certain members of this
Brian Butterworth wrote:
And then there's that gizmo, the one that can deliver the Sun to white
van man cheaply and reliably.
The radio?
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Brian Butterworth wrote:
It is very noticeable that WVM is not a DAB user...
I was actually thinking of cross between a Kindle and an etch-a-sketch
that can be dropped onto a road, get covered in cement dust and will
still allow page 3 to be read.Something with an interface so simple
Sean DALY wrote:
I listened to a discussion on the World Service radio The World Today
programme yesterday morning, and I was disturbed at the sloppy
reporting: although botnet machines are exclusively running Windows
because of the poor Microsoft security model, this was not mentioned.
In fact,
Ian Forrester wrote:
Say, we had a ton of media assets from a BBC programme which we owned all the
rights to and wanted to distribute widely. Not just video, but images, sound,
subtitles, metadata about the programme scripts, etc.
How would you
1. Package it?
Artists and techies will
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Wow this is arcane. We only got taught metric SI units at school...
Yeah, I prefer to avoid the imperial ones, but sometimes you can't -
when working with Americans is a common scenario.
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I kind of thought that the BBC should use SI units for some reason...
What, and get pilloried in the press for pushing a metric agenda? :-)
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2. Does anyone know how I can successfully contact members of the
Innovation Culture team at BBC Research and Innovation?
This list isn't a great way, but I think it's safe to say that some of
them read it. :-)
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Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
There was a cinema standard that called Showscan that ran at 60 instead
of 24fps for similar reasons. And IMAX do a thing called IMAX HD that
runs at 48fps. These systems both require a lot of lighting, and a lot
of film stock to shoot, so I don't think they are
Brian Butterworth wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2008/oct/29/bbc-research
Matthew Postgate
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/matthew_postgate/'s appointment
as controller of the *BBC's* research and innovation department is, at
last, great news for the BBC 's tech
Brian Butterworth wrote:
You could, perhaps, make high bitrate versions available to platform
providers, with a limited number of feeds for the likes of LiveStation
and Zattoo and the like.
Intuitively, that strikes me as opening up *different* cans of worms...
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I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite
well..
Hear hear. :-)
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Jeremy James wrote:
Simon Thompson wrote:
The GOP length is the number of frames between successive I-Frames. A
long GOP length will, for example, cause a delay on video appearing on
changing channels on a STB or, as editing cuts can only start from an
I-Frame will mean you can't do frame
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Sorry, a GPS compass. I worked on GPS for ages back in the day and
don't ever recall GPS being able to be a compass.
It can't be a compass directly, but many GPS receivers can show you your
direction of travel on a compass-like display.
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Tim Dobson wrote:
Mike Melanson wrote:
I keep up with current subnotebooks and I don't know any that use non-x86 CPUs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aware_Electronics
Yes so that's the A-View, the AW-300 and the AW-150 subnotebooks
for starters.
In what way are those X86 CPUs non-x86?
Peter Bowyer wrote:
On 11/08/2008, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kingswood innovations
Freeview Playback Due to launch in 2009 - with this you can record a whole
series with one instruction and, if you want to record two programmes that
clash, it will find one of the shows on a
Adam Hatia wrote:
It claims to be true 1280x720 @24fps... http://vimeo.com/help/hd ...
The video in the link posted by Tom Hannen wasn't displayed at that
resolution, even when you clicked the HD toggle (which changed the
amount of lossy compression applied). Perhaps there's a different way
Brian Butterworth wrote:
25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in
Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service.
I'm not aware that anyone has ever suggested a 720p25 HD service in the
UK. Ofcom have proposed putting four *720p50* services into a DVB-T2
multiplex.
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Adam Hatia wrote:
Does anyone know of any study results or resources on perceived quality comparisons
between various resolutions (e.g. 1080i25 vs 720p50) encodings?
Hans Hoffman has done some research in this area for the EBU:
http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_308-hdtv.pdf has some
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too?
Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even
simulcast) on other channels?
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Tom Hannen wrote:
The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the
place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately
relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's
technology...
Their HD channel is here:
http://vimeo.com/channel778e
An example:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
I just asked Hauppauge if any of their exiting kit would work with
DVB-T2, and they said
I'm afraid that we do not have any product that would support DVB-T2,
at the same time there's no plan of releasing one, at least until 2009.
Looks like a very closed trial to
Simon Thompson wrote:
We'll also be radiating a DVB-T (aka Freeview) signal for you guys to
hack around with. We've got some USB DVB-T sticks, some software links
and a talk on how to hack DVB-T and MHEG interactive stuff.
Just to clarify - this won't be a rebroadcast of one of the existing
Christopher Woods wrote:
Blimey that sounds like a golden opportunity for some to really go a bit
leftfield with their concepts... Is it all* of the BBC's digitised archive,
or just a handpicked selection?
Everything broadcast in the last year.
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Andy wrote:
2. Flash streaming just works for most people, and as the TV iPlayer has
shown, a tremendously popular way of consuming content.
Not on mobiles. How about an Ogg stream with Cortado[1] for mobiles
(or other people who dislike Flash).
Cortado looks like a J2SE applet, not a J2ME
Tom Hannen wrote:
I guess all the consituent parts exist already - I was thinking more
of an app that would make it easy for you to skip items whilst
cooking, or washing up, or in the car etc.
If you have a CD player in the kitchen, it is very easy to skip to the
next track - you stop what
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If BT can, why can’t you or anyone else?
In the absence of a contract with the broadcaster(s), I would suggest
that copyright law might be a hindrance.
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Christopher Woods wrote:
Personally I'd rather have naff analogue with continuous audio where I can
gist the few words I miss, rather than have a lossy (moreso than analogue,
arguably) digital signal with squelchy audio and dropouts every so often. I
put up with it on my PC's freeview receiver,
Andy wrote:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
There is quite a reasonable argument that the TV License, which is
used to fund BBC television and radio, is a regressive tax, so someone
on benefits pays the same as a millionaire.
Or to put it another way The less you earn, the more you pay as a
Dan Brickley wrote:
On top of that, things are set up for an equally classic you've tried
the rest now try the best argument. If you've committed to Flash, best
to use the real thing eh? Users have a choice now: they can get an
implementation from the leaders or from the followers. (not my
Thom Shannon wrote:
He does have a point though that the BBC is anti competitive. I
personally think the bbc is great for consumers, and that the quality of
bbc news is the only thing stopping uk tv news turning into something
like american news, but any of that could change, since the bbc
Matthew Cashmore wrote:
lol! How on earth did Ian and I get on the list!!! Now that would be funny - can you imagine us running FMT!
There would be lots more beanbags, for one thing.
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Mr I Forrester wrote:
No no, Redbull on tap... That would boost productivity :)
Cridland, i'm hot on your heels
I think that more senior management positions should be filled by
popular vote.
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Michael Sparks wrote:
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 14:32, Mr I Forrester wrote:
Although we laugh about this stuff, Google's policy on free food is
actually well reasoned. But I don't think it would apply to the BBC, as
we're publicly funded and rightly so should pay for food. I am however
going
Mr I Forrester wrote:
Peter Bowyer wrote:
http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/who-should-be-the-next-web-guru-of-the-bbc-vote-now/
So I highly recommend everyone goes there and votes for the guy at the
end of the list ;-) Mr Cridland is getting far too much support, we need
to put him back
Tim Dobson wrote:
In other news, Microsoft and Adobe employees are been encouraged to
send the BBC their CVs.
;)
I joke, I joke
/me hides
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/apr/14/bbc.digitalmedia1
(registration possibly required)
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Andy wrote:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
1. so the great evil here is probably the BT wholesale
provision which seems to be behaving somewhat monopolisticly, which is a
tendency that I know BT has.
Abuse of dominant position is prohibited under Section 18 of the
Competition Act 1998[1]. If BT are
Tom Jacobs wrote:
i think it would be really useful if the BBC made available the
subtitles for their TV shows via the /programmes pages (or any other
accessible, searchable API).
Yes, it would be nice.
You can get access to them via a DVB card in your PC, of course, but
because they're
Andy wrote:
The BBC forgot to mention it's actually blocking ISPs from caching the
streams.
As has already been pointed out, caching the streams wouldn't help ISPs
because it's not their upstream bandwidth costs that are concerning
them. Leaving aside the practicality of caching content
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the ISPs have a point ... the ADSL network is (currently) like a
collection of country roads (narrow and fairly slow) which the BBC is trying to
drive it's supersize juggernauts down. Think the ISPs should use some form of
traffic shaping for iPlayer traffic
Matt Barber wrote:
Yeah I saw some stuff about tapeless production when I read about
Dirac last year, is it true that it is in use internally to shift some
content around the BBC?
Some teams are using tapeless production techniques, yes. I suspect
that most radio production is already
Brian^H^H^H^H^HMatthew Cashmore wrote:
Hi Brian - received :-)
Brian makes a lot of posts to this list, but that doesn't imply that all
posters to the list are called Brian, Matt... ;-)
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Brian Butterworth wrote:
On 26/03/2008, *Steve Jolly* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you're underestimating the difficulties. And ignoring the
costs. :-) Bear in mind that you can't make any changes that would
break the millions of installed Sky STBs
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Let's assume that there is going to be a single transponder used for BBC
HD. Instead of just having a single stream of BBC HD, it has six
streams that usually occupy 3Mb/s each, leaving plenty for one of the
streams to be in HD at full bitrate.
To take just this
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Is it true that the new BBC/ITV Freesat service (starting 5th May) will
be HD only?
The Freesat website implies that HD programming will be broadcast in
addition to SD.
http://www.freesat.co.uk/what_is_it.php
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Brian Butterworth wrote:
On 26/03/2008, *Andrew Bowden* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Each region however has its own, permanent, dedicated video stream
which broadcasts 24/7. I can't think of any channel on Sky which
reconfigures its video configuration on the fly (e.g.
Brian Butterworth wrote:
I think you are confusing Freeview with Freesat. On Freesat the
multiple services are statmuxed together, on Freeview BBC ONE is in
4.9Mb/s, apart from Scotland, Wales and NI where the extra two radio
channels mean the whole of mux 1 is statmuxed.
I might be wrong,
David Greaves wrote:
Anyhow, personally I'm stuck until I can get a non-DRM HD signal into my Linux
Myth PVR.
I assume satellite isn't an option for you?
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Gareth Davis wrote:
I'll warn you that a lot of processing power is required to decode the
H264 profile in real time. When the BBC were doing the HD DVB-T trials
across London I had a go at trying to pick it up, and found that my 3Ghz
P4 machine could only managed about 14 fps.
At the risk of
Iain Wallace wrote:
Aside from the Big Lebowski reference: What?
I believe it's an analogy.
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Thought that people might find this interesting:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/mar/13/digitalvideo.television
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Ian Partridge wrote:
One thing I've always found unconvincing is the way the BBC bleats
but the production companies won't let us distribute the content
DRM-free!. The BBC has major clout - it could say from now on, all
production contracts we sign HAVE to allow DRM-free redistribution.
It could
vijay chopra wrote:
I like the way that the article suggests I'm suddenly a 1337 h4x0r
because I can chnge the user agent on my browser.
See? I knew people would appreciate it. :-)
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vijay chopra wrote:
The BBC response article is only marginally better, again referring to
hackers for no apparent reason though they at least have a motive to
mislead: propaganda. Though I probably shouldn't attribute to malice
what's adequately explained by stupidity.
Personally, I can
Dave Crossland wrote:
When the BBC limits the MP4 stream to Apple hardware devices, it is
implementing DRM
Sorry, not convinced. IANAL of course, but personally I don't see how
the concept of restricting access to a particular client implies the
concept of preventing copying.
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vijay chopra wrote:
I'm sorry I just despair for the journalists in this country. In theory
they should be a paragon of virtue, holding authority to account,
uncovering misdeeds and campaigning on behalf of the citizenry.
Instead we get dumbing down and catering to the lowest common
Dave Crossland wrote:
On 12/03/2008, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW I still can't get the mp4 to stream rather than download.
Anyone?
My guess is that the proprietary player on the iPhone just buffers
part of the HTTP GET data and starts playing away? :-)
That's how the iPhone
Iain Wallace wrote:
That's how the iPhone is doing it (and the Flash player, and all the
other network media players that support progressive downloads), yes.
Obviously progressive downloads and streaming are very different things,
but in the domain of Internet video, the former seem to be
Christopher Woods wrote:
Can you give an exact channel, date and time when you
observed the phenomenon? (03:59 GMT last night on N24, perhaps?)
Definitely. Observable on BBC2 last night/this morning (05/03/2008) during
the intro for Spin (03:44am). Also observable during the 60second
Martin Deutsch wrote:
I've suggested that Christopher tries another reciever, or moves the
aerial to somewhere with better signal strength. (I don't know that
much about how the decoding process works, but perhaps someone more
fluent in DVB will know - is it possible that error correction and
Barry Hunter wrote:
Seems to do reasonably well
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http%3A%2F%2Fws.geonames.org%2FrssToGeoRSS%3Ftype%3Dkml%26feedUrl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fnewsrss.bbc.co.uk%252Frss%252Fnewsonline_uk_edition%252Fuk%252Frss.xml
Of course geocoding free text stories is still an imprecise
Christopher Woods wrote:
Not used my USB Freeview receiver for a while, hooked it up because I
dug out an amplified aerial and thought 'heck, why not.' In essense,
audio seems to be varying degrees out of phase - measurably 90 degrees
out of phase on BBC Three and N24. I observed this
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But what is wrong is to forbid people from being to help people
regardless of the circumstances, for example by sharing with them, even
if they want to. This is what proprietary software does.
It's also what happens when railways require photocards for season
Christopher Woods wrote:
Hat-tip also to the marvellously geeky bod at the Beeb for the inclusion of
the Archimedes reference on the BBC Internet blog. Took me back to when I
first got my A3000 :)
There was one on my BBC Micro too, IIRC... :-)
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Richard P Edwards wrote:
I would love to know who it was that decided to make the two systems
incompatible.. once again, if that hadn't have happened HD-DVD could
have still lost, but without the public's purchases becoming pretty much
obsolete, and the hardware would still have a market.
Peter Bowyer wrote:
On 28/01/2008, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I presume that a TV version of last.fm would be last.uhf?
last.am would be more consistent, if slightly confusing.
last.dssc? :-)
last.cofdm perhaps, now that we're rapidly heading for digital switchover...
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Brian Butterworth wrote:
The system I wrote for ITV over 15 years ago worked down to the FRAME -
that's 1/25 of a second. That is how channels are scheduled.
Scheduling systems may be accurate to 1/25 of a second, but that doesn't
necessarily imply that they are equally precise. The ability
Brian Butterworth wrote:
I'm not trying to BLAME anyone here, I'm trying to find out where the
EPG information gets nobbled and make an attempt to get some to
acknowledge mistakes and provide accuracy in the data.
Accuracy is impractical. Locking the start time of programmes to a
Brian Butterworth wrote:
It seems incredible to me that the BBC is DELIBERATELY providing me (via
Microsoft) with inaccurate information.
If you were to start by assuming that inaccuracies in the EPG data
provided by the BBC were there for reasons other than to screw over
Windows Media
Graeme Mulvaney wrote:
It would be good if you could provide 'bookmarks' into some of the
current affairs/magazine style programming - e.g. you could jump to a
particular report in 'the culture show' or skip to the sudden death
round of 'the weakest link', etc.
Segmented content, huh? Yes,
Sean DALY wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/technology/ is showing 403 Forbidden.
Mmmm, sweet forbidden technology. (Not to be confused with
http://www.forbidden.co.uk/).
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Dave Crossland wrote:
On 09/01/2008, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Production client-side code really shouldn't have documentation in.
If the BBC is serious about supporting innovation around the iPlayer,
it ought to leave it in here.
I believe Ian said that there's a proper API
David Greaves wrote:
I think someone missed the point here...
Or am I wrong?
If I explain that all the stories on the BBC news website are barely
more than static HTML, would that explain why adding watermarks to them
all would be difficult? If the site was backed by some kind of
Adam Leach wrote:
My point was that this top gear episode
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008gzy6) is signed, yet there is no
way on knowing that until you start watching it. If i had downloaded
this via the p2p client i would have been a bit disappointed, but then
again its available so
Matthew Cashmore wrote:
Well it’s podcast time again and yesterday I got the opportunity to
speak to Anthony Rose - head of all things iPlayer here at the beeb.
Anthony also gave a pretty interesting talk at the IET's IPTV conference
today - it's also on the web, albeit only (afaik) at the
Noah Slater wrote:
On 06/12/2007, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact isn't the bulk of this thread concerned with the way in which
Perl On Rails will be non proprietary.
Not really, proprietry is the wrong word to use here. The word free
is much more descriptive. It is perfectly possible
Matt Lee wrote:
Steve Jolly wrote:
To eliminate confusion, I propose that we in future refer to the FSF
definition of free as GNU/Free. I thank you.
Or you could say 'free software, as defined by the Free Software
Foundation', which is more accurate and doesn't fall into the logical
trap
Deirdre Harvey wrote:
So can you give us any indication of when the technologists will
have completed the prototype of the journalist that doesn't need
food or shelter?
Well, someone here at BBC RD presented a (tongue-in-cheek) design for
an android journalist at an internal new
Billy Abbott wrote:
In order to get the gatekeepers to offer that software they need to have
an incentive to do so. Apart from idealistic ones who are doing it for
the reason of wanting the software to be free, I don't currently see
what the incentive is for the others. While I'd like to be
Brian Butterworth wrote:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinder/2007/11/kangaroo_a_giant_leap_for_tele.html
That second commenter seems rather familiar... :-)
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You really need to be careful with your language Richard
That was Andy, not Richard. :-)
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Andy wrote:
Nice to see a complete lack of detail though, now where did I put my
document on making an FOI request, (technically a written request here
would most likely count, after all it's written, has a name and has an
address.)
IMO it might not count if it was unclear as to whether you
Nick Reynolds-AMi wrote:
i have no idea what a dat file is so I wouldn't know how to send
one anyway so it must have been someone else
Nick - I think you're using Outlook as your email client. Have you got
it configured to send Rich Text emails by default? I believe that can
lead to every
David Greaves wrote:
Stuart Ward wrote:
I just found this project on sourceforge to sort out running the iPlayer
under wine.
http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page
At which point they can replace the DRM library calls with stubs and ...
... not be able to decode the
Martin Deutsch wrote:
On Nov 18, 2007 11:43 PM, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Givem the original is at 25fps, why not encode at that in fact?
50fps. ;-) (Pedantic, but important...)
Surely that just depends
Christopher Woods wrote:
Anyway, the cameras
they were using had the holographic BBC HD logo plastered along the
side of them, so things are looking up - unless they're just old skool
SD cameras with a chavlike shopping list down the side of them! I wonder
if the N24 cameras are similarly
Brian Butterworth wrote:
If you are going to be pedantic, at least be right! UKTV (and all in
Europe) is 25 frames a second
I suspect yuou don't understand what interlaced means.
I think I detect an impending semantic argument, so let me try and avoid
it. You're (I think) defining a frame
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Givem the original is at 25fps, why not encode at that in fact?
50fps. ;-) (Pedantic, but important...)
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Mr I Forrester wrote:
Just in case you haven't already seen, the first pluglondon happens on
8th December at the Skype offices just off Tottenham Court Road. Its
event which has very strong aims...
1. A place we can discuss, explore and showcase interoperability and
evolution of
Jonathan Tweed wrote:
Don't forget to also drop at least u, otherwise you might end up with offensive
short codes.
You may have noticed that the programme ids don't have any vowels in them. This
is deliberate ;-)
Sounds like an interesting little algorithmic challenge - what shortcode
Michael Sparks wrote:
Apologies if that's all a little random - and also, improvements on this
summary (and on criterion) welcome. :-)
Michael, your insistence on resorting to facts and reasoned argument
risks torpedoing this entire prolonged exchange of rants. Keep it up. ;-)
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Andy wrote:
Copyright Infringement is NOT theft, theft is theft, copyright
infringement is copyright infringement. They are covered by entirely
separate laws, they are described differently in the law, and the
actions themselves differ greatly.
How can educated people confuse the two?
I
Christopher Woods wrote:
Here's a thought... On Sky, and on cable too (right?) there's no
channels at each hundred's -00 (100, 200, 300 etc). Why not do some
interactive service which shows realtime mosaics, just like like
CanalSatellite and Astra do in Europe? That'd be smashing. I've
Andrew Bowden wrote:
There's no technical reason - it's just the business model. Sky+ has
been used to try and keep you subscribing - to reduce their churn. The
idea that your PVR is about to stop working when you stop subscribing no
doubt panics people.
And of course TiVo did the same -
Matthew Cashmore wrote:
We will all of course be very sad to stop using MajorDomo.
Ha!
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Adam Lindsay wrote:
I went back and noticed that the original poster's question wasn't
answered: are there any plans to reveal statistics on iPlayer usage?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/
You could always ask directly... :-)
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