Hi James,
I am looking forward to all these changes, I hope it will be great.
One quick question, regarding the iPlayer Radio is it possible on
an update to make the volume control actually go down to zero? I can
then watch the Magic Roundabout on Youtube instead of listening to
the
Andy wrote:
2. Flash streaming just works for most people, and as the TV iPlayer has
shown, a tremendously popular way of consuming content.
Not on mobiles. How about an Ogg stream with Cortado[1] for mobiles
(or other people who dislike Flash).
Cortado looks like a J2SE applet, not a J2ME
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/6/13 James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As the man in charge of the Coyopa project, which'll be fiddling with a
lot
of our streams,
You mean this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/03/coyopa_takes_shape.shtml
?
2008/6/13 James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As the man in charge of the Coyopa project, which'll be fiddling with a lot
of our streams,
You mean this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/03/coyopa_takes_shape.shtml
?
2. Flash streaming just works for most people, and as the TV iPlayer
2008/6/13 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu Jun 12 19:45:49 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu Jun 12 07:35:20 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Dogsbody [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What strange install allows RealPlaer but not
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Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 8:54 AM
2008/6/13 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu Jun 12 19:45:49 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Fred Phillips
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On Thu Jun 12 07:35
: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!
2008/6/13 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu Jun 12 19:45:49 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu Jun 12 07:35:20 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote
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Subject: RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!
I agree with Brian, Real-player is a lot less 'free' in the
terms you're thinking than Flash is.
You don't get upgrade to plus
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From: Andrew Bowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 June 2008 09:42
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!
You need the Linux
: 13 June 2008 09:44
To: 'backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk'
Subject: RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!
Not had a huge experience of Linux GUIs have to admit, mainly a command line
guy, though randomly I am putting Ubuntu on me old Laptop tonight (doesn't
that sound like a cool Friday evening out
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Can Flash be reduced to a controllable toolbar on your start bar, and
can it be told to stay on top of other windows ... both features that
I for one use a lot with WMP and (OMG) RP as well.
I think this can be done using AIR, but i haven't had a chance to play
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Can Flash be reduced to a controllable toolbar on your start bar, and can it
be told to stay on top of other windows ... both features
Beat me to it steve:)
We have some code that allows you to author id3v2 tags in mp3s to
indicate chapters
http://www.bbc.co.uk/opensource/projects/chapter_tool/
and some classes that read these tags out of mp3s enhanced in this way.
Currently written in Actionscript, as the demo player is
June 2008 11:52
To: 'backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk'
Subject: RE: [backstage] RealPlayer banished Toady!
It can be done in Windows, not by standard you have a point, but with other
applications.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can Flash be reduced to a controllable toolbar on your start bar,
and can it be told to stay on top of other windows ... both features
that I for one use
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Surely the point is that flash embedded content is a plain, simple, easy
thing that works. That makes it more user friendly
Can Flash be reduced to a controllable toolbar on your start bar, and can it
be told to stay on top of other windows . both features that I for one use a
lot with WMP and (OMG) RP as well.
Or, if you like consolidation, just install Media Player Classic. (via
RealAlternative if you want
2008/6/13 Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Surely the point is that flash embedded content is a plain, simple, easy
thing that works. That makes it more user friendly than before.
It looks like the audio data's just MP3; it would be even more user
friendly if it just used HTTP instead of
An option for the iplayer to pop-out to an always on top widow,
would be lovely actually - I would't want it all the time, but for
people who watch whilst using their computer, it would be much easier
than re-opening the same tab in a new window, then resizing and
scrolling it around until it
I'd second that ...
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An option for the iplayer to pop-out to an always on top widow,
would
On Fri Jun 13 08:54:46 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/13 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu Jun 12 19:45:49 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu Jun 12 07:35:20 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Dogsbody [EMAIL
Paul Battley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It looks like the audio data's just MP3; it would be even more user
friendly if it just used HTTP instead of obfuscating it with a
proprietary protocol (RTMP).
The obvious approach here would be to have a play with standalone MP3
player link, just like
This one on the Guardian site has just such a link, and also a podcast it
button too.
2008/6/13 Adam Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Paul Battley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It looks like the audio data's just MP3; it would be even more user
friendly if it just used HTTP instead of obfuscating it
Enjoying this thread so far.
As the man in charge of the Coyopa project, which'll be fiddling with a lot
of our streams, could I pop in and make the following points (given you know
we're making changes later this year)...
1. We are not removing internet-radio-compatible streams. Panic not.
2.
That's great news!
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:43 PM, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Enjoying this thread so far.
As the man in charge of the Coyopa project, which'll be fiddling with a lot
of our streams, could I pop in and make the following points (given you know
we're making
An option for the iplayer to pop-out to an always on top
widow, would be lovely actually - I would't want it all the
time, but for people who watch whilst using their computer,
it would be much easier than re-opening the same tab in a new
window, then resizing and scrolling it around
On 12 jun 2008, at 08.35, Brian Butterworth wrote:
What strange install allows RealPlaer but not Flash?
Internet radios.. (standalone devices) like the Acoustic Energy range...
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Ditto! I can no longer listen to my favourite shows at all now! :-(
Why? This change effects only *listen again* for one show. This
suggests to me that you are comlaining about something you don't use.
Sorry, I worded that badly, I meant if this was rolled out site wide.
What
2008/6/12 D P Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 12 jun 2008, at 08.35, Brian Butterworth wrote:
What strange install allows RealPlaer but not Flash?
Internet radios.. (standalone devices) like the Acoustic Energy range...
Not much of an Internet Radio if it can't play WMA streams. Probably
On 12 jun 2008, at 11.11, Brian Butterworth wrote:
Internet radios.. (standalone devices) like the Acoustic Energy
range...
Not much of an Internet Radio if it can't play WMA streams.
Probably should take it back!
My understanding from reading comments elsewhere was that they have
On Thu Jun 12 07:35:20 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Dogsbody [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What strange install allows RealPlaer but not Flash?
Er, free software ones.
Fred
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2008/6/12 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu Jun 12 07:35:20 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Dogsbody [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What strange install allows RealPlaer but not Flash?
Er, free software ones.
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
has
Linux x86,
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
has
Linux x86, Solaris, Pocket PC and HP-UX versions as well as Windows
98/ME/2000/XP/Vista and MacOS/X
Unfortunately the PPC version is HORRIBLY outdated (Flash Player 7!) and it
doesn't work in any web pages at all if ANYTHING aside
On Thu Jun 12 19:45:49 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Fred Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu Jun 12 07:35:20 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
2008/6/12 Dogsbody [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What strange install allows RealPlaer but not Flash?
Er, free software ones.
Hopefully the BBC will keep things like RM for use on internet radios
as IME they don't like flash.
But for web browsing I agree, flash is nicer than RM!
Darren
On 11 jun 2008, at 10.31, Brian Butterworth wrote:
Today has a new page, I note:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/default.stm
(Is
I guess all the consituent parts exist already - I was thinking more
of an app that would make it easy for you to skip items whilst
cooking, or washing up, or in the car etc.
If you have a CD player in the kitchen, it is very easy to skip to the
next track - you stop what you're doing for a
2008/6/11 Tom Hannen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've been thinking about a nice idea for a Today programme web-app.
When clicked, it would start playing the most recent Today programme
(from 6:30am or whenever it starts now), and then whenever you hear an
item that is boring you, you could hit a
I've been thinking about a nice idea for a Today programme web-app.
When clicked, it would start playing the most recent Today programme
(from 6:30am or whenever it starts now), and then whenever you hear an
item that is boring you, you could hit a button / space bar / wiimote
/ etc, and you would
On Wed Jun 11 09:31:27 2008, Brian Butterworth wrote:
Glad to see you don't need RealPlayer any more to listen again, it uses
Flash instead.
Um, thanks for making internet radio _completely_ unavailable to me.
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Now **that** would be nice. I find myself with various podcasts often
thinking about something else when a less than interesting bit comes
along !
Darren
On 11 jun 2008, at 13.07, Tom Hannen wrote:
item that is boring you, you could hit a button / space bar / wiimote
/ etc, and you would
Tom Hannen wrote:
I guess all the consituent parts exist already - I was thinking more
of an app that would make it easy for you to skip items whilst
cooking, or washing up, or in the car etc.
If you have a CD player in the kitchen, it is very easy to skip to the
next track - you stop what
Glad to see you don't need RealPlayer any more to listen again, it uses
Flash instead.
Um, thanks for making internet radio _completely_ unavailable to me.
Ditto! I can no longer listen to my favourite shows at all now! :-(
Dan
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2008/6/12 Dogsbody [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Glad to see you don't need RealPlayer any more to listen again, it uses
Flash instead.
Um, thanks for making internet radio _completely_ unavailable to me.
Ditto! I can no longer listen to my favourite shows at all now! :-(
Why? This change
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