Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Phil Meyer
Thank you Phil, I didn't find this new info yet (just switched to 7.5.x). Here's what it says: Tag version: FLAC, ID3v2.3.0 Yes, so you do have FLAC and ID3 tags present. If you have the latest version of 7.5.0, the scanner will now read all id3 tags that it understands, and then overwrite

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Phil Meyer
The 4-letter tags are ID3 tags. I have custom id3 tags that are not 4-letter tag frame names. eg. ARTISTSORT and ALBUMARTIST tags. Would it be better to show these as custom id3 tags, such as as TXXX name: value? MP3Tag doesn't show ID3 tags in FLAC files. It would, if the file only had id3

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
andyg;480965 Wrote: ... 3. Don't mess with this, it worked perfectly. I fixed a bug today that should fix your problem, the FLAC Album tag will now win out over the ID3 TALB tag. Nevertheless, you should remove your bad ID3 tags as this may confuse other apps in the future. If

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
Philip Meyer;481041 Wrote: ... The tags MP3Tag doesn't show (like TALB) are in contradiction with the FLAC tags (Album)[/color] I think this could happen quite a lot. Some editors may store FLAC+id3 (I think Mp3Tag used to do this by default - I've changed my prefs, not sure what the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread JJZolx
Teus de Jong;481052 Wrote: I found one setting in MP3Tag that maybe causes this. In Options Tags Mpeg (where is FLAC here?) it states: Write: ID3v2.3UTF-16 Remove: ID3v2, ID3v2, APE This confusing option apparently means that although all ID3v2 tags are removed, after that, new ID3v2

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
JJZolx;481059 Wrote: The settings above are only for MP3 (and TTA) files. And they don't work quite like you describe. Yes, it is a little confusing. Mp3tag only removes tags when you use File Remove tag (or Ctrl+R, or the big red X icon), not each time you save. Thanks for the info.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kubuntu karmic/squeezebox server

2009-11-03 Thread hymerman
Any resolution on this yet? I've just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and have my music copied there and waiting to be played, but haven't installed Squeezebox Server 7.4 yet because of this. -- hymerman hymerman's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kubuntu karmic/squeezebox server

2009-11-03 Thread mudlark
hymerman;481079 Wrote: Any resolution on this yet? I've just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and have my music copied there and waiting to be played, but haven't installed Squeezebox Server 7.4 yet because of this. There are several ways of getting round the problem, but it depends on how you update

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread JJZolx
Teus de Jong;481075 Wrote: I'll have to find out how these came in there. Could be EAC, if you use it. In EAC, under EAC Compression Options External Compression, if 'Add ID3 tag' is checked when you rip and encode to FLAC, it _will_ add both FLAC amd ID3 tags. Make sure it's not checked.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
audiomuze;480993 Wrote: if you configure it to show the TagType field you'll be able to identify and filter on mixed tags and run a cut and paste operation to remove the id3 tags. I was always under the impression mp3tag used a precedence of vorbis tags over id3, but would use a id3 tag

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
JJZolx;481085 Wrote: Could be EAC, if you use it. In EAC, under EAC Compression Options External Compression, if 'Add ID3 tag' is checked when you rip and encode to FLAC, it _will_ add both FLAC amd ID3 tags. Make sure it's not checked. Thank you, that must be it. Normally I rip with

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] iPlayer annoyance

2009-11-03 Thread Patrick Dixon
So where would it be caching it (and why has it only started doing this recently)? It's SB - Headless Ubuntu Server - Router - Internet. And why isn't it caching it when I go all the way back to the menu and select the same feed from scratch? -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread JJZolx
Teus de Jong;481075 Wrote: Thanks for the info. Well it is confusing then, to say the least... The situation here is not as bad as I thought. I just looked and almost none of my albums have ID3 tags. I'll have to find out how these came in there. Teus Try this in EAC: - First, make

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kubuntu karmic/squeezebox server

2009-11-03 Thread hymerman
Thanks :) I was hoping they'd sort the packages out properly really, I like to have all dependencies and so on managed by apt rather than hacking around myself. Is this the kind of thing that gets resolved quickly, or the kind of thing we'll have to wait a few months for an update for? --

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
the sky is not falling, this is a good change that andy keeps refining to get better. the number one thing SBS should be able to do, is make your music available to you. it should never scan it and then hide it, in any way, ever, for any reason, (unless the user deliberately wants it so, as per

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
Jim, just a friendly fyi, u said EAC a lot in your last post when you meant mp3tag -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - sbs 7.4.2b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 35k mp3

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Roger66
JJZolx;481085 Wrote: Could be EAC, if you use it. In EAC, under EAC Compression Options External Compression, if 'Add ID3 tag' is checked when you rip and encode to FLAC, it _will_ add both FLAC amd ID3 tags. Make sure it's not checked. Thank you, I will check that when ripping next

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
Well it's done; all clear now. I had only 23 discs with those FLAC ID3v2 tags. (I don't know how many discs I have exactly. SC reports 887 albums, but because I'm treating sets as one album that doesn't say much. I have so many classical albums with more disks -- up to 18 for 'Bernstein plays

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
Roger66;481105 Wrote: Thank you, I will check that when ripping next time. Does this option have to be altered each time when ripping MP3 after being ripping FLAC and vice versa ? Or are these settings in different tabs (at the moment I don't have EAC here) ? i'm not positive, but i

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
JJZolx;481096 Wrote: Try this in Mp3tag: - First, make sure you have a recent backup of your library, just in case... - Second, you must use the latest development version of Mp3tag (2.44e or later). Earlier versions don't have the same filtering capability. Download and install it

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Roger66
MrSinatra;481108 Wrote: i'm not positive, but i would think you could setup a profile for flac, and a profile for mp3 each with their own settings. eac supports profiles. That's another option. Thank you ! -- Roger66 SB classic SB Boom Win XP Pro SP3 Thinkpad X60s

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Andy Grundman
On Nov 3, 2009, at 3:36 AM, Phil Meyer wrote: The 4-letter tags are ID3 tags. I have custom id3 tags that are not 4-letter tag frame names. eg. ARTISTSORT and ALBUMARTIST tags. Would it be better to show these as custom id3 tags, such as as TXXX name: value? Right, TXXX tags are

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
sounds appropriate to me! :) just to be clear, you are saying if it has Vorbis tags present, but the TITLE field in the vorbis tag is blank, then in that case, it will forget Vorbis altogether and use the id3 tag instead, right? or will it merge them with whatever vorbis does have taking

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Andy Grundman
On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:05 AM, MrSinatra wrote: sounds appropriate to me! :) just to be clear, you are saying if it has Vorbis tags present, but the TITLE field in the vorbis tag is blank, then in that case, it will forget Vorbis altogether and use the id3 tag instead, right? or will

[SlimDevices: Beta] Confusing beta setup status

2009-11-03 Thread mule
I'm really confused by the current beta setup: 1.) There is no fw update directory created for 7.4.2 although used by squeezebox server beta v7.4.2 2.) There is no fw update for SB Radio in the 7.5.0 path although there are updates to the touch and the controller Could someone please fix this

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Andy Grundman
On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Philip Meyer wrote: andyg;481139 Wrote: On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:05 AM, MrSinatra wrote: sounds appropriate to me! :) just to be clear, you are saying if it has Vorbis tags present, but the TITLE field in the vorbis tag is blank, then in that case, it will

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kubuntu karmic/squeezebox server

2009-11-03 Thread mudlark
I have not come across such a problem before. (two years and four or five kubuntu upgrades) Some one has slipped up, probably when SBS went from mysqlite back to mysql. Mysql has a suggested generally used version at 5.1, and similarly with the client package. SBS should have been updated as soon

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kubuntu karmic/squeezebox server

2009-11-03 Thread hymerman
wait for the community to work out the bugs We are the community :) I like early adoption, it forces out the errors quicker. Of course that only applies if the developers stay on top of things. 7.4.1 came out fairly swiftly after 7.4.0 so that's a good sign. Any idea when 7.4.2 is destined for

[SlimDevices: Beta] Gray text on Controller overlay

2009-11-03 Thread kidstypike
Controller firmware: 7.5.0 r7984 The text on the top two lines of the top overlay is no longer a bright white, it's a dull gray color and barely legible, (progress bar, elapsed remaining time, are ok). This is only on the Now Playing screen, all other menus are fine. Anyone else seeing this?

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
I totally agree with this approach. Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70839

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-11-03 Thread lrossouw
gcurrie;481289 Wrote: On 7.4.1, I got all 5 SPs properly registered on mysqueezebox.com (lots of deleting players and reconnecting) and My Apps show up properly on each player. Going to 7.4.2 hasn't broken it yet (although it broke a few other little items). Can you please explain how

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Gray text on Controller overlay

2009-11-03 Thread Webkemmi
Yes, same here with Controller Firmware 7.5.0 r7998 This is not really a good solution. Stefan -- Webkemmi Webkemmi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30352 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Gray text on Controller overlay

2009-11-03 Thread bklaas
this was a bug not a solution... fixed in r8003 discussed here https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15032 cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas Logitech Developer: Squeezeplay/SqueezeOS/SqueezeboxController/SqueezeCenter Community Developer: Nokia770Skin http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Confusing beta setup status

2009-11-03 Thread gcurrie
It seems to me that 7.4.2 is a developmental cul-de-sac. I'm trying to determine why the Customize Controller plugin broke as soon as I updated to 7.4.2 - but not if 7.4.2 is obsolete. Is there any reason to evaluate the 7.4.2 instead of 7.5? I'm hearing that all check-ins are goign to 7.5, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Roger66
Teus de Jong;481334 Wrote: Yes, I've done that now. I'm still doing :). Finally, the test with the latest build: the problem I mentioned in the first post is solved by Andy's fix. For me, too. Now everything is on 7.3.3 standard again :). -- Roger66 SB classic SB Boom Win XP Pro SP3

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Phil Meyer
i don't think this would be widespread, but what if you had a Vorbis tag present in the file, however it was blank? meanwhile, you also had an id3 tag in that file, and it WASN'T blank? If the album was ripped from CD to FLAC, I'd expect the ripper to write FLAC tags, and may or may not write

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
i don't think this would be widespread, but what if you had a Vorbis tag present in the file, however it was blank? meanwhile, you also had an id3 tag in that file, and it WASN'T blank? if the Vorbis tag is present yet blank, and SBS then ignores everything else, it will not be viewable in SBS.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Teus de Jong
Philip Meyer;481326 Wrote: There's no settings to control what gets read or written for FLAC tags. The easiest approach is to delete all tags, and then undo, which will write the FLAC tags back without the id3 tags. Yes, I've done that now. Finally, the test with the latest build: the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Phil Meyer
it sounded to me like testing for title in the Vorbis tag was what Andy was suggesting. if title were blank, then use id3 if present and filled out. if not, ignore all other tags and just use Vorbis. Andy, would that not be the best way? No, it wouldn't. There could be times when title should

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-11-03 Thread gcurrie
1. Open and sign in to mysqueezebox.com. 2. Open a Squeezeplayer. 3. Settings Advanced Networking Connect to mysqueezenetwork.com 4. On mysb.com, click on Players. Your player should show up now. 5. Your player will show a version like 7.4-r0 if you are running on Windows - apparently they

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread Phil Meyer
Thank you for your elaborate explanation Philip. Would clearing the check box I mentioned in my previous post result in clearing all id3 tags and leave only the ones I see (the FLAC tags)? There's no settings to control what gets read or written for FLAC tags. The easiest approach is to delete

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-11-03 Thread gcurrie
On 7.4.1, I got all 5 SPs properly registered on mysqueezebox.com (lots of deleting players and reconnecting) and My Apps show up properly on each player. Going to 7.4.2 hasn't broken it yet (although it broke a few other little items). -- gcurrie -Gordon Squeezebox Server 7.4.1 + HP

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
Philip Meyer;481343 Wrote: i don't think this would be widespread, but what if you had a Vorbis tag present in the file, however it was blank? meanwhile, you also had an id3 tag in that file, and it WASN'T blank? If the album was ripped from CD to FLAC, I'd expect the ripper to write

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
Philip Meyer;481346 Wrote: it sounded to me like testing for title in the Vorbis tag was what Andy was suggesting. if title were blank, then use id3 if present and filled out. if not, ignore all other tags and just use Vorbis. Andy, would that not be the best way? No, it wouldn't.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread JJZolx
MrSinatra;481438 Wrote: does ANYONE purposely have title blank on a track? and even if they do, which is dopey, how would you play it in SBS if its not listed? Well, let's test that, shall we... Looks like SbS simply uses the filename when all else fails (I have no guess tags formats

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
thats good news actually, b/c thats EXACTLY what i've been suggesting for months... just look at bug 8380 it didn't used to do that. what ver of SBS is it doing it for you? -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - sbs 7.4.2b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
btw, what does it do if it has no tags at all; and what does it do if it has tag[s] but they are completely devoid of data? -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - sbs 7.4.2b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread JJZolx
MrSinatra;481478 Wrote: thats good news actually, b/c thats EXACTLY what i've been suggesting for months... just look at bug 8380 it didn't used to do that. what ver of SBS is it doing it for you? It's 7.5 and the files are FLAC. Bug 8380 concerns tag merging and mostly applies to MP3

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
JJZolx;481481 Wrote: It's 7.5 and the files are FLAC. Bug 8380 concerns tag merging and mostly applies to MP3 files with both ID3v1 and ID3v2 tags. Doesn't Andy's new ID3 tag merging address those issues for you? indeed, i'm very happy with it, b/c its good for SBS. (my personal tags are

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread JJZolx
MrSinatra;481479 Wrote: what does it do if it has no tags at all - Browsing Genres, the album shows up under 'No Genre No Artist No Album'. - Browsing Artists, the album shows up under 'No Artist No Album'. - Browsing Albums, the album doesn't show up at all and the album and track counts

[SlimDevices: Beta] Scanner crasher in 7.5 - character set issue

2009-11-03 Thread JJZolx
I was just experimenting with scanning a folder of FLAC files with no tags, and no guess tags formats. When this case is encountered, the scanner uses the filename as the track title. It choked on this file: 09 Corazon Espinado (Featuring ManĂ¡).flac Code:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Curious bug in 7.5 scanner

2009-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
JJZolx;481484 Wrote: - Browsing Genres, the album shows up under 'No Genre No Artist No Album'. shows up how? like for each song, whats there? a filename? its good that its there in some way, but i don't think most users browse by genre. JJZolx;481484 Wrote: - Browsing Artists, the