Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
This is the problem you are facing: no matter what tool you try to use, real SB could not play 'native' DSD, you should disable that choice, then use whatever you like to inform LMS what transcoding you like to apply.; 2018-07-02, 11:39 by marcoc1712 Dear all, I'm quite new in trying to get LMS streaming dsf from my squeezebox touch to my dac (topping E30). I've read a lot in this forum and it seems it doesn't work. The quote above is the latest I could find on the subject. Am I correct? Or did I miss any posts? Thanks for your reply. Edvard Edvard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Should this be working on FreeBSD (FreeNAS) also? I get the following message on my server 'DSDPlayer does not currently include a version of dsdplay which supports your server. DSD playback has been disabled for this player.' Squeezebox Touch / Squeezebox 3 / Squeezebox Boom / Squeezebox Radio / Squeezebox Duet - SqueezeCenter running on Lenovo IdeaPad U450p THXTEX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
I was going through my plugins and noticed I have 'DSDPlayer (v1.0)' and 'PlayDSD (v0.5)' selected, do I need both as they both show up in the player settings for each player. If not, which is the best one to use? Im running LMS v7.9.1 Thanks jdenver's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65902 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
hellrider77 wrote: > > In his post, ralphy points out to some binaries that should be installed > in the Bin folder of the DSDPlayer add-on, I don't think those binaries > work with LMS installed on my Syno > Thanks The ARM versions of Synology in this respect have a similar architecture as the Pi. I actually did the manual install of Ralphys armhf binaries and it worked on my Synology DS216Play which is ARMv7l codename Monaco (whereas the one from settings plugin did not). No guarantee, but it could be worth a try. You could also try using the C3PO plugin instead. On the other hand, playing DSD64 natively isn't so bad after all..[emoji12] *Server:* LMS 7.9.2 - 0011.1527861596 on Synology DS216Play. SOX mansr ARMv7 & C-3PO. *Players:* SB Radio, RPi 3B+, 7 Touch, pCP @Marshall Acton. Multiroom HiFi: Denon AVR-X4000, AVM M30 @Nubert NuLine/NuVero 5.1+2 Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Yes, there is, in my previous post, I sad that I have installed the latest LMS server on my NAS, i have also installed dsdplayer form the repo https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsupdate/files/DSDplayer_x86_64/repo_sf.xml , (now, version 1.02) via enable add-on in the LMS settings page. Still I can only choose between "Native" or "Disabled in Advanced/File Tipes. In his post, ralphy points out to some binaries that should be installed in the Bin folder of the DSDPlayer add-on, I don't think those binaries work with LMS installed on my Syno Thanks hellrider77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68706 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
hellrider77 wrote: > well, it does not work for me. Synology is different. I own DS214 which > is armadaxp, I don't think there is a package for that.I think there is.. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=912137 *Server:* LMS 7.9.2 - 0011.1527861596 on Synology DS216Play. SOX mansr ARMv7 & C-3PO. *Players:* SB Radio, RPi 3B+, 7 Touch, pCP @Marshall Acton. Multiroom HiFi: Denon AVR-X4000, AVM M30 @Nubert NuLine/NuVero 5.1+2 Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
well, it does not work for me. Synology is different. I own DS214 which is armadaxp, I don't think there is a package for that. hellrider77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68706 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Forgive my ignorance. I found my answer earlier in the thread, where Ralphy explained the need to install the Raspberry Pi binaries. I installed DSDPlayer armhf-linux on my Raspberry Pi 3B+ running PiCorePlayer. Now I get proper conversion option for DSDPlayer on players that do not support DSD. ralphy wrote: > There are dsdplay armv6hf and armv5el binaries in the Utility folder on > my lmsclients site, click Squeezebox client builds in my sig. > > After installing the DSDPlayer plugin. > > You need to create an armhf-linux folder under the plugins DSDPlayer/Bin > folder > > Then copy the files from the tar file into DSDPlayer/Bin/armhf-linux > > If the shared dsdplay binary doesn't run due to missing libraries, > delete it and rename dsdplay-static to dsdplay > > For armv5el use arm-linux for the folder name > > Restart LMS and you should be able to setup DSDPlayer from the player > settings page in the webgui. > 20155 Transporter -> Classe' CP-47.5 -> Classe' CA-201 -> Martin Logan SL3 Celeritas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18887 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
I have the same problem as below. PiCorePlayer 4.1.0 is installed and DSDPlayer plugin v1.0 is installed in LMS 7.9.2 - 1543258616. Squeezelite is turned off on the Raspberry Pi 3B+ that is used as an LMS server. I can stream native DSD to a Squeezelite player that is attached to a USB DAC that supports it. I cannot transcode DSD to any other players. Like hellrider77, transcoding options are greyed out for DSF -> FLAC or DFF -> FLAC under File Types. In the player menu, I get "DSDPlayer will transcode DSD to PCM for this player. Use the settings below to tune resampling parameters," but there are no options displayed. Is this a Linux problem? It works just fine on my Windows 10 PC if I run the server there. hellrider77 wrote: > Hello and nice to meet you. > This is my first post here as I am trying to get my Yamaha CD-S3000 to > play DSD via piCorePlayer. > > My environment looks like this: > > LMS on Synology DS214: > > > Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 0011.1527861596 @ Fri Jun 1 > 16:21:00 CEST 2018 > Hostname: DiskStation > Operating system: Synology DiskStation - EN - utf8 > Platform Architecture: armle-linux > Perl Version: 5.24.0 - armle-linux > Audio::Scan: 0.95 > IO::Socket::SSL: 2.037 > Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) > > > pCP running on Raspberry Pi 2B+: > > piCorePlayer | piCorePlayer v4.1.0 | linux 4.14.81-pcpCore_v7 | piCore > v9.2pCP | Squeezelite v1.9.0-1121-pCP | > > USB DAC: Yamaha CD-S3000, 24/192 max PCM, Native DSD 128 max > The problem is that in order for Yamaha to work in Windows with DSD, it > requires an Steinberg ASIO driver. > The device does not accept DSD via DoP, only native. > > > The only way I got it to work correctly in pCP was to leave blank the > output setting, all devices listed did not work or worked in 48Khz > resolution > > I have installed DSDPlayer (now version 1.02) , in LMS under player -> > DSDPlayer i get "This player supports native playback of DSD files. > DSD-over-PCM should be configured on the player configuration > interface." > > Under File Types I only get: > > DFF DFF Native or Disabled > FLAC Greyed out - Disabled > > DSF DSF Native or Disabled > FLAC Greyed out - Disabled > > I tried all recommendations on Soundcheck's blog: > "soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/2018/01/raspberry-pi-audio-engine-part-6-dsd" > (cannot post links as this is my first post) > > DSD does not play at all, with any of the settings recommended above. I > don't know what -W, -D commands stand for... > > I had partial success by entering in pCP under "Device supports DSD/DoP" > the value "0:dop". Yamaha plays DSD64 this way, but not DSD128. > > I have no clue about squeezelite commands or linux but I am pretty good > at following instructions. > > Might help: I found a post regarding Yamaha CD-S2100 (probably the same > USB receiver) here on the forums, as I cannot post links yet , I am copy > / pasting the original post: > > > > The OP was not interested into getting DSD working, he just left the > Output Setting field blank, it worked, and moved on. > > Thank you. > > Sorin Transporter -> Classe' CP-47.5 -> Classe' CA-201 -> Martin Logan SL3 Celeritas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18887 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
More here: ' http://pqltd.blogspot.com/2018/08/mytek-brooklyn-and-manhattan-dsd-with.html' (http://pqltd.blogspot.com/2018/08/mytek-brooklyn-and-manhattan-dsd-with.html) totoroBounced's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
So, as far as I can see, the Mytek fixes are not in until 4.15.5, if I want to avoid patching the kernel. Is that right? totoroBounced's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
So it seems that the quirks.c file has been updated a couple of times, the latest June of 2018. The first time they added several mytek devices, but then made it more generic. So... wonder when I'll see this in my Ubuntu? I'm at 16 LTS, maybe I should upgrade? Best, E totoroBounced's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
totoroBounced wrote: > Hi, so I grabbed: > > Squeezelite v1.9.0-1105 > > But the log file still says DoP is being used. The last line of the > help screen says: > > Build options: LINUX ALSA EVENTFD RESAMPLE VISEXPORT IR GPIO LINKALL > > Does this mean it doesn't have the right build options ? Well, I got past all the build issues, even made my own Makefile with the -DDSD option. I set -D 100:u8 (or something) and no dice. :( On my mytek brooklyn I have gone through all 5 formats and none of them work except DoP totoroBounced's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
ralphy wrote: > My linux builds newer than version 1.9.0-1093 compiled with DSD build > option support native DSD. Hi, so I grabbed: Squeezelite v1.9.0-1105 But the log file still says DoP is being used. The last line of the help screen says: Build options: LINUX ALSA EVENTFD RESAMPLE VISEXPORT IR GPIO LINKALL Does this mean it doesn't have the right build options ? totoroBounced's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
ralphy wrote: > My linux builds newer than version 1.9.0-1093 compiled with DSD build > option support native DSD. Great, that's what I needed to know. Right now I am using the OS distro and it is only up to 1.8.2 Let me see how easily I can build the latest. Best, E totoroBounced's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > DSD 'native' playback was introduceed in Daphile some time ago, I > included it in R2 version in 2017 and Ralphy recently did the same first > in picoPlayer version and now in the 'standard' one. My linux builds newer than version 1.9.0-1093 compiled with DSD build option support native DSD. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *1*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
totoroBounced wrote: > Hi, > > I'm very sorry, this is a very long thread and I don't know where to > look. > > I'm very happy with an older version of Squeezelite, but DSD is only via > DoP, which is limited in bandwidth. > > I'm wondering if Squeezelite now supports DSD natively, and if so at > what version this started? > > Thank you, > > Erik DSD 'native' playback was introduceed in Daphile some time ago, I included it in R2 version in 2017 and Ralphy recently did the same first in picoPlayer version and now in the 'standard' one. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi, I'm very sorry, this is a very long thread and I don't know where to look. I'm very happy with an older version of Squeezelite, but DSD is only via DoP, which is limited in bandwidth. I'm wondering if Squeezelite now supports DSD natively, and if so at what version this started? Thank you, Erik totoroBounced's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > If from inside Daphile, you should before DISABLE "Native" in file > types. > > That's correct, you shouuld DISABLE native and enable DxF/FLAC (for real > SB) using DSDPLAY or C-3PO, This is automatic in LMS, probably Daphlile > is making something weird here. > > The answer is YES, if using LMS and DSDPLAY, C-3PO or (rigth) > custom-convert,conf commands. > > It should be YES also using Daphile, BUT not with native AND real > squeezebox. > > This is the problem you are facing: no matter what tool you try to use, > real SB could not play 'native' DSD, you should disable that choice, > then use whatever you like to inform LMS what transcoding you like to > apply. Thanks for the help... I'd like to play DSF files without having to wrap them in a FLAC container. Looks like I'm going to build a Raspberry Pi based Squeezelite player. I'd like to keep my Squeezebox Touch but only if someone can get it to play DSF. Martin mhconley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40647 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
mhconley wrote: > Yes, Daphile, Triode DSDPlayer. > > I tried C-3PO but it did not change the DFF or DSF settings nor allow > additional options.Martin If from inside Daphile, you should before DISABLE "Native" in file types. mhconley wrote: > > The only choices for DFF and DSF are Native or Disabled. That's correct, you shouuld DISABLE native and enable DxF/FLAC (for real SB) using DSDPLAY or C-3PO, This is automatic in LMS, probably Daphlile is making something weird here. mhconley wrote: > > So back to my main question: > Will the *Squeezebox Touch* play DSF files or do I need to use > foobar2000 to put them in a FLAC container?. The answer is YES, if using LMS and DSDPLAY, C-3PO or (rigth) custom-convert,conf commands. It should be YES also using Daphile, BUT not with native AND real squeezebox. This is the problem you are facing: no matter what tool you try to use, real SB could not play 'native' DSD, you should disable that choice, then use whatever you like to inform LMS what transcoding you like to apply. mhconley wrote: > > Thanks, > Martin Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > Is that Daphile? > > Daphile has it's own transcoding, looks strange to me DFF/DSF Native > with a real SB (it's allowed only with squeezelite), but is so, better > ask to Kimmo. Yes, Daphile, Triode DSDPlayer. mhconley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40647 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
mhconley wrote: > Are you saying the DSF files should play? > > Here are the relevant file type settings: > DFF > DFF Native > FLAC dsdplay > > DSF > DSF Native > FLAC dsdplay > > FLAC > AIFF flac > FLAC Native > MP3 flac/lame > PCM flac > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Martin Is that Daphile? Daphile has it's own transcoding engine, but wat looks strange to me is "DFF/DSF Native"if uisng a real SB, it should go the route FLAC dsdplay, instead. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
mhconley wrote: > Are you saying the DSF files should play? > > Here are the relevant file type settings: > DFF > DFF Native > FLAC dsdplay > > DSF > DSF Native > FLAC dsdplay > > FLAC > AIFF flac > FLAC Native > MP3 flac/lame > PCM flac > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Martin Is that Daphile? Daphile has it's own transcoding, looks strange to me DFF/DSF Native with a real SB (it's allowed only with squeezelite), but is so, better ask to Kimmo. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > With DSD_PLAY plugin installed it should work, converting everything to > PCM. Probably you should check FYLE TYPE conversion settings for DFS. > C-3PO plugin could do the same plus some additional processing. Are you saying the DSF files should play? Here are the relevant file type settings: DFF DFF Native FLAC dsdplay DSF DSF Native FLAC dsdplay FLAC AIFF flac FLAC Native MP3 flac/lame PCM flac Any suggestions? Thanks, Martin mhconley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40647 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
mhconley wrote: > I've read everything I can find on playing DSD on LMS and have a > question. > > My setup: > Synology DS918+ > - Wi-Fi - > Squeezebox Touch > - USB - > Topping DX7s DAC > > LMS Info: > Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 0011.1527861596 @ Fri Jun 1 > 16:21:00 CEST 2018 > Hostname: A_NAS_Server > Server IP Address: 192.168.1.76 > Server HTTP Port Number: 9002 > Operating system: Synology DiskStation - EN - utf8 > Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux > Perl Version: 5.24.0 - x86_64-linux > Audio::Scan: 0.95 > IO::Socket::SSL: 2.037 > Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) > Total Players Recognized: 1 > > DSDPlayer (v1.0) installed: > Enable DSD-over-PCM is checked > Soxr Quality: Very High Quality > Soxr Filter: Intermediate Phase > Soxr Steep Filter: Soxr Steep Filter > > Squeezebox Touch info: > Version: 7.8.0 r16754 > EDO installed > > My system plays up to 24 bit 192kHz FLAC files without issue. > > I have several DSF files from different sources. The all play fine when > the Topping DX7s is plugged into my PC. > > I get this error when I try to play the DSF files on the Touch: > Problem: Can't open file for: SONG TITLE > > If I convert the files using foobar2000 to 24 bit 176.4kHz FLAC using > the Super Audio CD Decoder (foo_input_packeddsd) they play fine. The > Topping DX7s correctly reports them as 2.82MHz DSD files. > > Finally, my question: Must I convert all my DSF files to play them on my > Squeezebox Touch? > > Thanks, > Martin With DSD_PLAY plugin installed it should work, converting everything to PCM. Probably you should check FYLE TYPE conversion settings for DFS. C-3PO plugin could do the same plus some additional processing. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Jeeho, at SOtM fixed the problem in record time in an alpha version of the firmware I just finished testing! Now I can play DSF files using DoP or Native DSD mode with the Logitech Media Server connected to the sMS-200ultra's Squeezelite player. I tested: 1) DSF x64 and x128 DoP using the DSDPlayer plugin 2) DSF x64, x128 and x256 Native all working very well with my Brooklyn DAC+! aslg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68016 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi Marcoc1712, I reset the sMS-200ultra's config to the default settings: 24896 and now I get the same "Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (447) Matched: dsf->dsf via: -" line like in you log: Code: [18-04-08 14:39:12.8124] Slim::Player::Song::open (363) file:///volume1/music/Various%20Artists/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%202/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%202%20-%2003%20-%20Hole%20In%20My%20Heart%20-%202.8MHz-DSF.dsf [18-04-08 14:39:12.8133] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (209) Checking to see if dsf-dsf-*-* is enabled [18-04-08 14:39:12.8136] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: dsf-dsf-squeezelite-02:82:06:81:72:56 [18-04-08 14:39:12.8138] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: dsf-dsf-*-02:82:06:81:72:56 [18-04-08 14:39:12.8140] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: dsf-dsf-squeezelite-* [18-04-08 14:39:12.8142] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: dsf-dsf-*-* [18-04-08 14:39:12.8144] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (209) Checking to see if dsf-dsf-*-* is enabled [18-04-08 14:39:12.8146] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (250) enabled [18-04-08 14:39:12.8148] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (252) Found command: - [18-04-08 14:39:12.8152] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (446) Matched: dsf->dsf via: - [18-04-08 14:39:12.8154] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0 canSeek=1 [18-04-08 14:39:12.8159] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (209) Checking to see if dsf-dsf-*-* is enabled [18-04-08 14:39:12.8162] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: dsf-dsf-squeezelite-02:82:06:81:72:56 [18-04-08 14:39:12.8164] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: dsf-dsf-*-02:82:06:81:72:56 [18-04-08 14:39:12.8166] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: dsf-dsf-squeezelite-* [18-04-08 14:39:12.8168] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Checking formats for: dsf-dsf-*-* [18-04-08 14:39:12.8170] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (209) Checking to see if dsf-dsf-*-* is enabled [18-04-08 14:39:12.8172] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (250) enabled [18-04-08 14:39:12.8174] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (252) Found command: - [18-04-08 14:39:12.8178] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (446) Matched: dsf->dsf via: - [18-04-08 14:39:12.8180] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder: streamMode=I, streamformat=dsf [18-04-08 14:39:12.8183] Slim::Player::Song::open (461) Opening stream (no direct streaming) using Slim::Player::Protocols::File [file:///volume1/music/Various%20Artists/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%202/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%202%20-%2003%20-%20Hole%20In%20My%20Heart%20-%202.8MHz-DSF.dsf] [18-04-08 14:39:12.8189] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (81) duration: [266.007] size: [187695196] endian [] offset: [0] for file:///volume1/music/Various%20Artists/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%202/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%202%20-%2003%20-%20Hole%20In%20My%20Heart%20-%202.8MHz-DSF.dsf [18-04-08 14:39:12.8191] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (98) Opening file /volume1/music/Various Artists/Blue Coast Collection 2/Blue Coast Collection 2 - 03 - Hole In My Heart - 2.8MHz-DSF.dsf [18-04-08 14:39:12.8196] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (192) Seeking in 0 into /volume1/music/Various Artists/Blue Coast Collection 2/Blue Coast Collection 2 - 03 - Hole In My Heart - 2.8MHz-DSF.dsf [18-04-08 14:39:12.8200] Slim::Player::Song::open (482) URL is a song (audio): file:///volume1/music/Various%20Artists/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%202/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%202%20-%2003%20-%20Hole%20In%20My%20Heart%20-%202.8MHz-DSF.dsf, type=dsf [18-04-08 14:39:12.9371] Slim::Player::SongStreamController::new (31) live=1 [18-04-08 14:39:12.9376] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1265) 02:82:06:81:72:56: stream [18-04-08 14:39:12.9390] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1302) Song queue is now 2,1 [18-04-08 14:39:12.9394] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state STREAMING [18-04-08 14:39:12.9396] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (303) 02:82:06:81:72:56: NextTrackReady - new state PLAYING-STREAMING [18-04-08 14:39:12.9399] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (303) 02:82:06:81:72:56: ReadyToStream - new state PLAYING-STREAMING [18-04-08 14:39:13.0136] Slim::Player::Squeezebox2::directHeaders (471) Processing headers for direct streaming: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Logitech Media Server (7.9.1 - 1504317335) Connection: close Content-Type: audio/dsf Something seems completely broken in the handling of the "Native" DSD mode in the
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
aslg wrote:
> Hi Marcoc1712,
> thanks! That's what I wanted to know.
>
> To summarize our discussion:
> There is nothing wrong with my LMS setup. In theory a vanilla
> installation of LMS 7.9.1 should able to send native DSD to the Brooklyn
> DAC+ through the sMS-200ultra's Squeezelite player if native DSD is
> correctly enabled in the sMS-200ultra for this DAC.
>
> The fact I see the following error in the LMS log when I play a DSF file
> (DSDPlayer disabled) indicates something wrong in the Squeezelite's
> Native DSD support in the sMS-200ultra:
> >
Code:
> > [18-04-06 18:14:39.3890] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't
create command line for dsf playback for
[file:NAS1/music/Various%20Artists/Blue%20Coast%20Collection/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%20-%2001%20-%20Looking%20For%20A%20Home%20-%202.8MHz-DSF.dsf]
> >
>
> Am I correct? If yes, I will report these findings to SOtM and ask a
> fix.
>
> Thanks!
No,
I'm just reporting that LMS could send DSD even to non DSD capable DACS
via Squeezelite that way:
Code:
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7085] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1254)
Song queue is now 0
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7088] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1257)
00:e0:4c:68:ce:78: preparing to stream song index 0
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7091] Slim::Player::Song::open (363)
file:///F:/SVILUPPO/01%20-%20SqueezeboxServer%20Plugins/musica%20campione/dsf_02-822-400%20(dsd64).dsf
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7095] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2
(447) Matched: dsf->dsf via: -
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7098] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0
canSeek=1
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7101] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2
(447) Matched: dsf->dsf via: -
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7104] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder:
streamMode=I, streamformat=dsf
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7107] Slim::Player::Song::open (461) Opening stream (no
direct streaming) using Slim::Player::Protocols::File
[file:///F:/SVILUPPO/01%20-%20SqueezeboxServer%20Plugins/musica%20campione/dsf_02-822-400%20(dsd64).dsf]
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7127] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (81) duration:
[129.4] size: [91308124] endian [] offset: [0] for
file:///F:/SVILUPPO/01%20-%20SqueezeboxServer%20Plugins/musica%20campione/dsf_02-822-400%20(dsd64).dsf
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7130] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (98) Opening
file F:\SVILUPPO\01 - SqueezeboxServer Plugins\musica campione\dsf_02-822-400
(dsd64).dsf
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7133] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (192) Seeking in
0 into F:\SVILUPPO\01 - SqueezeboxServer Plugins\musica campione\dsf_02-822-400
(dsd64).dsf
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7136] Slim::Player::Song::open (482) URL is a song
(audio):
file:///F:/SVILUPPO/01%20-%20SqueezeboxServer%20Plugins/musica%20campione/dsf_02-822-400%20(dsd64).dsf,
type=dsf
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7181] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1322)
00:e0:4c:68:ce:78: stream
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7198] Data::Dump::dump (100) Warning: ("STREAMING
CONTROLLER - _Stream, Song queue is now: ", 0)
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7201] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1365)
Song queue is now 0
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7204] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState
(2446) new playing state BUFFERING
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7207]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2455) new streaming
state STREAMING
[18-04-08 19:55:01.7521] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2
(447) Matched: dsf->dsf via: -
[18-04-08 19:55:01.8244] Data::Dump::dump (100) Warning: "STREAMING
CONTROLLER - playerTrackStarted"
[18-04-08 19:55:01.8253]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerTrackStarted (2260) 00:e0:4c:68:ce:78
[18-04-08 19:55:01.8256] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState
(2446) new playing state PLAYING
[18-04-08 19:55:01.8262] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Playing (393)
Song 0 has now started playing
then Squeezelite handle it that way:
Code:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Logitech Media Server (7.9.1 - TRUNK)
Connection: close
Content-Type: audio/dsf
[19:55:01.725] sendRESP:202 RESP
[19:55:01.727] pa_monitor:179 output on
[19:55:01.727] pa_monitor:200 end monitor thread
[19:55:01.762] _pa_open:268 opened device 1 - Altoparlanti (Realtek High Defi
at 352800 latency 185 ms
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:191 id: DSD len: 28 consume: 28
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:158 DSF version: 1 format: 0
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:168 channels: 2
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:169 sample rate: 2822400
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:170 lsb first: 1
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:171 sample bytes: 45652320
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:172 block size: 4096
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:191 id: fmt len: 52 consume: 52
[19:55:01.820] _read_header:178 found dsd len:
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
aslg wrote: > Hi Marcoc1792, > thanks. > > Did you mean to activate DSDPlayer? I could not find DSPlay in the > plugin list. > I enabled DSDPlayer, checked the box "Enable DSD-over-PCM" and I can > confirm that it works well sending DoP to the Brooklyn DAC+. > > When I unchecked the box I noticed that 24bit 352.8kHz PCM is sent to > the Brooklyn DAC+. > How do I tell DSDPlayer to send Native DSD? > > This is what shows up in the DVD player settings: > > 24890 > > Thanks! Seems Your squeezelite does not accept native DSD in input, that's is what I wanted to see. Check on the player, then, when solved, you could disable DSDPlayer at all. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
aslg wrote: > Hi Marcoc1712, > thanks for the prompt reply. > > I tried two versions of LMS: > - LMS 7.9.1-166 on a x86 Synology NAS > - LMS 7.9.1-1522249619 on Windows 8 > > In both servers the DSF file type config is the same. This is an excerpt > from Settings -> Advanced -> File Types > > > Code: > > > File FormatStream FormatDecoder > DSFDSF Native > > > > > I do not have ssh access to the sMS-200ultra, so I cannot run the > squeezelite -? command. All I can see in the sMS-200ultra UI is that > the squeezelite version is 1.8.7. > SOTM claims that Native DSD mode is supported for my DAC (a Mytek > Brooklyn DAC+) with the latest sMS-200ultra firmware (v0.4.17). > The error I posted in the previous post (Slim::Player::Song::open > (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for dsf playback for ...) > shows up in the LMS error log so I thought the problem is not with > SqueezeLite but with LMS but I could be wrong. > > I just wanted to verify everything is OK with my LMS setup before > engaging with SOTM... > > Thanks! I see, it seems it's the same version running in picoplayer. If so, the only think you need is activate DSDPLAY plugin and let it send native (as opposed to DOP or PCM) DSD formats to squeezelite. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > What version of LMS are you using, what Native (Decoder) stand for? > > What kind of squeezelite is instaleld on sMS-200ultra? AFAIK only > Daphile, squeezelite-R2 and picoPlayer could play native DSD, I'm the > one after Squeezelite-R2 and I'm not aware they are using it in this > commercial product. > > could you post the result of squeezelite -? on sMS-200ultra, please? > > BTW, I think they should give you support for that, we all work for free > here when they sell theyr product at 1400 Euro... Hi Marcoc1712, thanks for the prompt reply. I tried two versions of LMS: - LMS 7.9.1-166 on a x86 Synology NAS - LMS 7.9.1-1522249619 on Windows 8 In both servers the DSF file type config is the same. This is an excerpt from Settings -> Advanced -> File Types Code: File FormatStream FormatDecoder DSFDSF Native I do not have ssh access to the sMS-200ultra, so I cannot run the squeezelite -? command. All I can see in the sMS-200ultra UI is that the squeezelite version is 1.8.7. SOTM claims that Native DSD mode is supported. The error I posted in the previous post (Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for dsf playback for ...) shows up in the LMS error log so I thought the problem is not with squeezelite but I could be wrong. I just wanted to verify everything is OK with my LMS setup before engaging with SOTM... Thanks! aslg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68016 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
aslg wrote: > I am having a hard time setting up a LMS 7.9.1 server to play DSF files > natively to a Brooklyin DAC+ using a SOtM sMS-200ultra player. > I set the DSD mode on the sMS-200ultras squeezelite config to > Native, but when I play a DSF file the progress bar does > not move and I see the following error in the log: > > > Code: > > [18-04-06 18:14:39.3890] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for dsf playback for [file:NAS1/music/Various%20Artists/Blue%20Coast%20Collection/Blue%20Coast%20Collection%20-%2001%20-%20Looking%20For%20A%20Home%20-%202.8MHz-DSF.dsf] > > > > I did not install the DSDPlayer plugin (I thought that is only needed > for DoP and I want to use the native transmission supported on the > sMS-200ultra for the Brooklyn DAC+ with the latest firmware v0.4.17). > > This is the DSF config In Advanced File Types: > > Code: > > DSF (File Format) -> DSF (Stream Format) -> Native (Decoder) > > > > What do I need to do to play DSF files in Native DSD mode? > > Thanks! What version of LMS are you using, what Native (Decoder) stand for? What kind of squeezelite is instaleld on sMS-200ultra? AFAIK only Daphile, squeezelite-R2 and picoPlayer could play native DSD, I'm the one after Squeezelite-R2 and I'm not aware they are using it in this commercial product. could you post the result of squeezelite -? on sMS-200ultra, please? BTW, I think they should give you support for that, we all work for free here when they sell theyr product at 1400 Euro... Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi All, can someone help me out with DSD? I have an album added (dsf) in LMS 7.9.1. I have setup DSDPlayer to use Enable DSD-over-PCM. I have set the volume level at fixed 100%. The music plays on my Benchmark DAC2HGC (connected via spdif, edo enabled). But I think that the files are converted to PCM as the front lights of the DAC show 24bit, 4x 44khz. For DSD both the 2x and 4x lights should be on. Am I doing anything wrong? Any help appreciated! Living: SB Touch -> Benchmark DAC2 HGC -> Benchmark AHB2 -> ATC SCM19 v2 & Sennheiser HD650 Kitchen: SB Touch -> Audio Pro Addon T10 gen2 Kids rooms: SB Booms Bedroom: SB Boom & SB Radio Controls: iPeng & LMS via internet Server: Windows 10 with LMS 7.9.1 Spare: 1 SB Touch, 1 SB3, 1 SB Radio Blackfiction's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Linvincible wrote: > Hi Guys, > I'm a bit lost since I reinstalled my LMS server yesterday, DSD files > don't work anymore. > I did reinstall the DSDPlayer plugin and configure it for my player > (picoreplayer) > I had done a reinstall recently also, still with the Synology package, > and didn't have any issues > LMS is running on a Synology 415+ > What's the latest on getting that to work? > Is the DSDPlayer in the plugin list the correct one or should I look for > an alternate repo where another plugin is available? > That was the case in the past with pinkdot's repo... > I find so many old threads about this I'm confused as per what to do > now! For DSD is only working if: - volume is set to 100% - replay gain correction is set to off - Song info plugin is installed Have you checked this ? Squeezebox Duet + 2 receivers Win 7 Audioengine 5 NAD 320 BEE Klipsch RF-82 Sennheiser 580 AKG 400 / 501 Beyer DT770/880 Grado 60 / 225 Wichita's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33666 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi Guys, I'm a bit lost since I reinstalled my LMS server yesterday, DSD files don't work anymore. I did reinstall the DSDPlayer plugin and configure it for my player (picoreplayer) I had done a reinstall recently also, still with the Synology package, and didn't have any issues LMS is running on a Synology 415+ What's the latest on getting that to work? Is the DSDPlayer in the plugin list the correct one or should I look for an alternate repo where another plugin is available? That was the case in the past with pinkdot's repo... I find so many old threads about this I'm confused as per what to do now! Syno 415+ with LMS 7.9 -> Picoreplayer 3.11 with Audio-GD I2S hdmi output -> PS Audio DirectStream -> Pass Labs XP20 -> Pass Labs XVR-1 -> 2 x Karan KA S 400 -> XTZ Divine 100.49 -> happiness Linvincible's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
erwjack wrote:
>
> The DS213+ uses a FREESCALE QorIQ P1022 CPU (Dual Core, Package Arch
> Qoriq) and has a DSM6.x regularly updated (now 6.1.4-15217 Update 1).
>
> This are the LMS infos:
> Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1504317335 @ Mon Sep 4 22:13:00
> UTC 2017
> Hostname: {omissis}
> Server IP Address: {omissis}
> Server HTTP Port Number: 9002
> Operating system: Synology DiskStation - EN - utf8
> Platform Architecture: powerpc-linux
> Perl Version: 5.24.0 - powerpc-linux
>
You will probably need a custom compiled sox for this platform. Go to
AudioDigitale.eu they explain how to do it. Other alternative is to get
an RPi, install LMS on the Pi and use the NAS only for the storage of
the files.
*Server:* LMS 7.9.1-166 Synology @ Sept 04 2017 on DS216Play. SOX mansr
ARMv7 & C-3PO. *Players:* SB Radio, Freecom MusicPal. Multiroom HiFi:
Denon AVR-X4000, AVM M30, Nubert NuLine/NuVero 5.1+2
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Jianan wrote: > So I used dff2dsf developed by signalyst.com. Right now, all the dsd > files are fine. It claims that dff2dsf only adds header info without > converting to PCM. Is it really the case? > It absolutely stays DSD which you notice when further processing. I used the same tool, no worries, no difference realized at all. Enjoy! :) Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk *Server:* LMS 7.9.1-166 Synology @ Sept 04 2017 on DS216Play. SOX mansr ARMv7 & C-3PO. *Players:* SB Radio, Freecom MusicPal. Multiroom HiFi: Denon AVR-X4000, AVM M30, Nubert NuLine/NuVero 5.1+2 Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Ge Ba wrote: > Well but do the .dsf files work? To be honest, I converted all my .dff > files to .dsf as dff does not support meta data. > There are tools available in the net and after converting you can > properly maintain the tags for your files. > > Gerhard > > Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk Hi Gerhard and Guys, Quick update to you. Indeed there is the meta data problem with dff files. I contacted SOtM engineer and we reintalled the logitech media server. Then dsf files are working properly while dff files not. I used foobar to delete previous tag information I added in the dff. Still couldn't work. So I used dff2dsf developed by signalyst.com. Right now, all the dsd files are fine. It claims that dff2dsf only adds header info without converting to PCM. Is it really the case? Thank you very much for your suggestions and help. Best, Jianan Jianan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Ge Ba wrote: > Well but do the .dsf files work? To be honest, I converted all my .dff > files to .dsf as dff does not support meta data. > There are tools available in the net and after converting you can > properly maintain the tags for your files. > > Gerhard > > Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk Sadly, dsf also doesn't work Jianan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Jianan wrote: > Hi Ge Ba, > > Thank you for your reply. Quick update, just ask distributor in HK > (where I live and bought the sms) to help and it seem that the sms 200 > itself cannot play dff files smoothly (weired). Hence they're now > contacting Korean side. Still trying to figure out the problem. > > Thx, > JiananWell but do the .dsf files work? To be honest, I converted all my .dff files to .dsf as dff does not support meta data. There are tools available in the net and after converting you can properly maintain the tags for your files. Gerhard Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Ge Ba wrote: > IMHO could be an issue with convert.conf or custom-convert.conf. Did you > maybe install a Plugin in LMS or fiddle with advanced settings File > Types in LMS three days ago? > > If not, then why dont you have this fixed by the SOTM support. If still > in warranty.. LMS and DSD are committed features of this box. Hi Ge Ba, Thank you for your reply. Quick update, just ask distributor in HK (where I live and bought the sms) to help and it seem that the sms 200 itself cannot play dff files smoothly (weired). Hence they're now contacting Korean side. Still trying to figure out the problem. Thx, Jianan Jianan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Jianan wrote: > I've had this dsd playback issue for 3 days now and really need help > from you guys. > > Background: I am using sotm sms 200 with LMS 7.9 installed. The player > supports native dsd and connected to DDC singxer f-1 and spdif to chord > hugo. DDC also supports native dsd without problem. All the music files > are stored on usb and connected to sms 200 usb dock. > > Settings: > a. Plugin: DSDplayer installed. > b. File Type Setting: DFF, DST Native. > c. Volume Control: Output level is fixed at 100%. Crossfade: None. > d. DSD Player tab: This player supports native playback of dsd files. > DSD-over-PCM should be configured on the player configuration interface. > e. I chose sms 200 to output native dsd in sotm interface. > > Symptom: > a. dsd files can be played for 10-30 s without any sounds, then will > stop playing and skip to another song > b. All other files 16/24bit, 44/96/192k can be played without any > problem. > c. Log shows: Decoder does not support file format, code 0 > > > Others: All dsd files can be played on my win 8 computer with foobar. > > Really want dsd files to be played on sms 200. > > Any suggestions are welcome. Appreciated for ur help. > > Jianan IMHO could be an issue with convert.conf or custom-convert.conf. Did you maybe install a Plugin in LMS or fiddle with advanced settings File Types in LMS three days ago? If not, then why dont you have this fixed by the SOTM support. If still in warranty.. LMS and DSD are committed features of this box. Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
ralphy wrote: > There are dsdplay armv6hf and armv5el binaries in the Utility folder on > my lmsclients site, click Squeezebox client builds in my sig. > > After installing the DSDPlayer plugin. > > You need to create an armhf-linux folder under the plugins DSDPlayer/Bin > folder > > Then copy the files from the tar file into DSDPlayer/Bin/armhf-linux > > If the shared dsdplay binary doesn't run due to missing libraries, > delete it and rename dsdplay-static to dsdplay > > For armv5el use arm-linux for the folder name > > Restart LMS and you should be able to setup DSDPlayer from the player > settings page in the webgui. > 20155 Oh YES this does work on ARM, in my case armv7l with DS2016play's STiH412 processor. I'm aware this is not ideal because this thing has a built-in floating-point unit which I'm probably not using but this is OK for now :) I'm using the static library armv5el binary. Thank you Ralphy PS: I didn't find documentation for the Settings of the DSDPlayer Plugin ... any hints? Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Simonef wrote: > Sorry for errors or misunderstandings but English is not my native > language. > > I've already compiled sox executables only for specific operative > systems, so if you are using FreeBSD, not customized linux distros, > windows or MacOS you can just download the binary file of sox and > replace the original one with the new one; then you should rename it in > "sox" and check the file permissions. > > If you are not using these o.ss. or you are using customized linux > distro like the one of your NAS you will need to compile by yourself the > software on the target operative system, on the "How to compilae SoX" > guide you'll find, under the FreeBSD paragraph, the list of website > where you can download the source code of the libraries that sox uses, > those are the software you need to compile (to know how just read under > the "compiling" paragraph) BEFORE sox. After that you can compile sox > and move the executable and replace the one provinded with Logitech > Media Server. > > Hope this helps, > Simone Hello Simone, don't worry about the language, everything is totally understandable, the bigger problem is that my knowledge in Linux development is very limited. Nevertheless, finally, after I downloaded the sources for libmad library and compiled it, I could successfully compile sox itself, on my ARMv7 NAS (Synology DS2016play), as you suggested. :) My self-compiled sox is working fine now for playing FLAC or MP3, but yet it doesn't transcode any of my DSD files. I'm using C-3PO to control the playback. I've had results varying with settings, but all I get is seeing the play time progressing or hearing only noise. This is what ldd says: Code: root@DiskStation:/opt/bin# ldd sox libsox.so.3 => /opt/lib/libsox.so.3 (0x76ddb000) libpng16.so.16 => /opt/lib/libpng16.so.16 (0x76da3000) libz.so.1 => /opt/lib/libz.so.1 (0x76d81000) libFLAC.so.8 => /opt/lib/libFLAC.so.8 (0x76d1a000) libmad.so.0 => /opt/lib/libmad.so.0 (0x76cf5000) libmp3lame.so.0 => /opt/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 (0x76c77000) libm.so.6 => /opt/lib/libm.so.6 (0x76bc3000) libssp.so.0 => /opt/lib/libssp.so.0 (0x76bb1000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /opt/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x76b96000) libc.so.6 => /opt/lib/libc.so.6 (0x76a5a000) /opt/lib/ld-linux.so.3 (0x76ed9000) This is what C-3PO tells me for a .dsf file to be transferred to FLAC: Trasformed by C-3PO in: "/opt/bin/sox" -q -t dsf "/volume1/music/HOME/DSD/CHANNELCLASSICS/11/stereo/19503/04_19503_2ch.dsf" -t flac -C 5 -b 24 --buffer 8192 - lowpass -1 22000 gain -h rate -m -I -b 90.7 -f 44100 When I execute sox with these parameters in SSH, I only get weird characters instead of meaningful error message. I will head over to Audiodigitale.eu and try to find out more on the configuration. Do you haven an idea what could be the cause? How could I activate the Log file? :confused: Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Simonef wrote: > I've approved and answered to your comment con audiodigitale, sorry for > the delay I haven't set up push notifications for the websites. Hope > this will help > > BTW my mail is info(at)simonefilippini(dot)ithi Simone, great, I have > received your message, thanks a lot! I'm currently looking into it and will get back to you asap. Maybe two questions of more general interest for this audience; what defines if we need to compile your modified SOX ourselves or should be able to use the provided versions? Which file/s exactly do we need to replace, I replaced the sox executable.. after this the NAS refused to play any music file at all.. should I look for sox.so instead? Sorry if these questions are dumb, I'm still a beginner when it comes to Linux underlyings. thanks a lot, Gerhard Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Ge Ba wrote: > Marco, > I entered a comment on audiodigitale but it doesn't show up, and I > didn't get a response from Simone, yet. Could you help with me to > contact him, please? maybe PM me an email address? > mille grazie! > Gerhard > > Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk I've approved and answered to your comment con audiodigitale, sorry for the delay I haven't set up push notifications for the websites. Hope this will help BTW my mail is info(at)simonefilippini(dot)it Simonef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Ge Ba wrote: > Marco, > I entered a comment on audiodigitale but it doesn't show up, and I > didn't get a response from Simone, yet. Could you help with me to > contact him, please? maybe PM me an email address? > mille grazie! > Gerhard > > Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk I've sent a mail to Simone, pointing to this THD. SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > You better ask here: https://audiodigitale.eu/?p=25, Simone is the guy > that followed the sox sub project in C-3PO and sure could helps much > better than me.Marco, I entered a comment on audiodigitale but it doesn't show up, and I didn't get a response from Simone, yet. Could you help with me to contact him, please? maybe PM me an email address? mille grazie! Gerhard Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > You better ask here: https://audiodigitale.eu/?p=25, Simone is the guy > that followed the sox sub project in C-3PO and sure could helps much > better than me.thank you, Marco, ok will do! Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Ge Ba wrote: > Marco, I am also trying to replace SOX, but the version > sox-dsd-linux-gnu-amd64 from your site does not run on my NAS (Synology > DS2016play, ARMv7). > > Does it mean I need to compile it myself on the NAS? If so, do I need to > obtain specific libraries? > > thanks! > Gerhard You better ask here: https://audiodigitale.eu/?p=2, Simone is the guy that followed the sox sub project in C-3PO and sure could helps much better than me. SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > You still need to get the modified SOX version as explained in > www.audiodigitale.eu. Marco, I am also trying to replace SOX, but the version sox-dsd-linux-gnu-amd64 from your site does not run on my NAS (Synology DS2016play, ARMv7). Does it mean I need to compile it myself on the NAS? If so, do I need to obtain specific libraries? thanks! Gerhard Ge Ba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > You still need to get the modified SOX version as explained in > www.audiodigitale.eu. Thanks. Will try some time. eduardoo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
eduardoo wrote: > Thanks. Just want to get it straight. If I go the c3po route, I don't > have to do the other things? > > Thanks again. You still need to get the modified SOX version as explained in www.audiodigitale.eu. SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > For what I remember and solved the executable location problem, you > could use dsdPlay and let squeezelite convert DSD to PCM (should work > just adding -c pcm,flac to your squeezelite command line, so the player > wiill become NOT dsd capable), but sure is not the best way to go. > > You better convert DSD to PCM (or flac) server side and let the player > just receive (and convert to pcm if flac) then play to your DAC. > > To do that, first you need a modified version of SOX (see > www.audiodigitale.eu) then add a line ( dsf flc * *) to > custom-convert.conf or use C-3PO plugin, that should made things > esaier. > > Marco. Thanks. Just want to get it straight. If I go the c3po route, I don't have to do the other things? Thanks again. eduardoo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
eduardoo wrote: > I have LMS 7.9.0 installed on a QNAP 469L NAS with DSDPlayer plugin > enabled. The player is a SOTM SMS-100 running squeezelite. The > SMS-100 itself supports DSD throughput at its USB out, but my DAC > doesn't. Therefore, I would like it to be ultimately transcoding to, > say, 176kHz. > > On the LMS settings' "Player" tab, it says, "This player supports native > playback of DSD files. DSD-over-PCM should be configured on the player > configuration interface" If I play a DSF file, it appears to be > playing, but as expected, there is no sound coming out of the system > because the DAC doesn't support DSD. If I set the file type preference > of DSF to DSF: disabled (native originally), FLAC: dsdPlay, it would > fail to even start track, and the SSOTS server log says, > "sh: > /opt/ssods4/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/DSDPlayer/Bin/i386-linux/dsdplay: > No such file or directory". I looked into the NAS's directory and see > that there is > /opt/ssods4/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/DSDPlayer/Bin/dsdplay > but not one with dsdplay as a subdirectory of i386-linux. Out of > curiosity, I tried creating a i386-linux folder and copied the dsdplay > folder into it. After restarting server, the file type setting of DSF > would only have the DSF native/disabled setting and the flac setting > would be greyed out. So, this is probably not the cure. > > My question is, should what I intend to do (transcoding dsf to flac) be > an available option? Is my setting at fault, or is there something else > I should look into (The QNAP firmwares this year broke support for LMS, > and I had to made some minor mods to make it run as usual. So, I don't > know if the DSDplayer plugin support is screwed up by the firmware > upgrade as well) > > Thanks. For what I remember and solved the executable location problem, you could use dsdPlay and let squeezelite convert DSD to PCM (should work just adding -c pcm,flac to your squeezelite command line, so the player wiill become NOT dsd capable), but sure is not the best way to go. You better convert DSD to PCM (or flac) server side and let the player just receive (and convert to pcm if flac) then play to your DAC. To do that, first you need a modified version of SOX (see www.audiodigitale.eu) then add a line ( dsf flc * *) to custom-convert.conf or use C-3PO plugin, that should made things esaier. Marco. SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
I have LMS 7.9.0 installed on a QNAP 469L NAS with DSDPlayer plugin enabled. The player is a SOTM SMS-100 running squeezelite. The SMS-100 itself supports DSD throughput at its USB out, but my DAC doesn't. Therefore, I would like it to be ultimately transcoding to, say, 176kHz. On the LMS settings' "Player" tab, it says, "This player supports native playback of DSD files. DSD-over-PCM should be configured on the player configuration interface" If I play a DSF file, it appears to be playing, but as expected, there is no sound coming out of the system because the DAC doesn't support DSD. If I set the file type preference of DSF to DSF: disabled (native originally), FLAC: dsdPlay, it would fail to even start track, and the SSOTS server log says, "sh: /opt/ssods4/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/DSDPlayer/Bin/i386-linux/dsdplay: No such file or directory". I looked into the NAS's directory and see that there is /opt/ssods4/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/DSDPlayer/Bin/dsdplay but not one with dsdplay as a subdirectory of i386-linux. Out of curiosity, I tried creating a i386-linux folder and copied the dsdplay folder into it. After restarting server, the file type setting of DSF would only have the DSF native/disabled setting and the flac setting would be greyed out. So, this is probably not the cure. My question is, should what I intend to do (transcoding dsf to flac) be an available option? Is my setting at fault, or is there something else I should look into (The QNAP firmwares this year broke support for LMS, and I had to made some minor mods to make it run as usual. So, I don't know if the DSDplayer plugin support is screwed up by the firmware upgrade as well) Thanks. eduardoo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
pieronip wrote: > I mean that, over USB, PCM operates up to 192 KHz (Squeezebox maximum) > and DSD is detected correctly by the DAC and plays as native DSD. > Sounds nice too! Ah, OK. So no DSD over SPDIF. SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > From the secification ofyur DAC: > > DAC:ES9028Q2M DAC chip > Input: USB/Optical/Coaxial > ... > USB: DSD: 2.8224/5.6448/11.2896/22.5792 MHz > USB: PCM: 44.1/48/88.2/96/176.4/192/352.8/384/705.6/768 KHz > Optical/Coaxial Sampling Rate: 44.1/48/88.2/96/176.4/192 kHz > ... > > What you mean with: " All is now working as it should"? I mean that, over USB, PCM operates up to 192 KHz (Squeezebox maximum) and DSD is detected correctly by the DAC and plays as native DSD. Sounds nice too! pieronip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
pieronip wrote: > Well I seem to h ave accidentally solved the issues I was having. It > had been my intention to upgrade my DAC, so I purchased a SMSL M8A. > When I connected it, my attempts to play DSD, both natively and via DoP, > met with failure but the nature of the failure was the clue. The DAC > kept switching between PCM and DSD and operating in 'bursts'. So > > Switching from wireless to a wired connection fixed it completely. All > is now working as it should. > > Thanks for a the advice and support! >From the secification ofyur DAC: DAC:ES9028Q2M DAC chip Input: USB/Optical/Coaxial ... USB: DSD: 2.8224/5.6448/11.2896/22.5792 MHz USB: PCM: 44.1/48/88.2/96/176.4/192/352.8/384/705.6/768 KHz Optical/Coaxial Sampling Rate: 44.1/48/88.2/96/176.4/192 kHz ... What you mean with: " All is now working as it should"? SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Well I seem to h ave accidentally solved the issues I was having. It had been my intention to upgrade my DAC, so I purchased a SMSL M8A. When I connected it, my attempts to play DSD, both natively and via DoP, met with failure but the nature of the failure was the clue. The DAC kept switching between PCM and DSD and operating in 'bursts'. So Switching from wireless to a wired connection fixed it completely. All is now working as it should. Thanks for a the advice and support! pieronip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
pieronip wrote: > I will try this. I had formed an obviously wrong view that playing DSD > was dependent on using USB connection. I'll post results. > > Thanks. DSD 'native' wont play via SPDIF. I don't think DSD over PCM is supported on most DSD DACs via the SPDIF inputs. If they are, they are limited to 24/192 which means you can only play DSD1x even if the DAC supports DSD2x or higher. SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Peter Galbavy wrote: > Can you try to play via SPDIF/coax to the DAC and see if it's different > - try to eliminate the USB as the potential issue? > > On my Touch playing into the coax digitial port of a Rotel RA-11 I see > 88.2k on the display when playing plain old DSD files. I will try this. I had formed an obviously wrong view that playing DSD was dependent on using USB connection. I'll post results. Thanks. pieronip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Can you try to play via SPDIF/coax to the DAC and see if it's different - try to eliminate the USB as the potential issue? On my Touch playing into the coax digitial port of a Rotel RA-11 I see 88.2k on the display when playing plain old DSD files. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi Please forgive a very n00b question. I am trying out DSD on LMS 7.9 and SB Touch with an external DacMagic DAC (quite elderly and pre-DSD). I am able to get my DSF files playing without a problem (EDO, USB) but I don't understand what is happening 'under the covers'. The state of the 'Enable DSD-over PCM' option makes no difference to the sound output and the DAC shows 44.1 sample rate at all times. Is this correct? Will a great deal of resolution not be lost at this low sample rate? If you can aid my understanding or point me to a learning resource, I would be very grateful. TIA pieronip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marakasmalan wrote: > Thank you very much! > > If I install the ffmpeg-sattic binary, must I rename it to ffmpeg? > > I appreciate your response, I will try and install it as soon as I get > home - will this also fix the SOX issue? Yes you should rename ffmpeg-static to ffmpeg if the ffmpeg binary doesn't run. AFAIK sox is not used in ffmpeg. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *1*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marakasmalan wrote: > Ok, logged in as root I copied the ffmpeg binary to the /opt folder and > executed the command > export PATH=$PATH:/opt/ > then, ldd ffmpeg yields: > ldd ffmpeg > libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40005000) > librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x400ad000) > libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x400bc000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x400d) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400f) > /lib/ld-linux.so.3 (0x2a00) > > but ffmpeg -h yields: > ffmpeg -h > -bash: /opt/ffmpeg: Permission denied > > Am i doing something wrong? You need to set execute permissions chmod 755 /opt/ffmpeg Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *1*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Ok, logged in as root I copied the ffmpeg binary to the /opt folder and executed the command export PATH=$PATH:/opt/ then, ldd ffmpeg yields: ldd ffmpeg libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40005000) librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x400ad000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x400bc000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x400d) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400f) /lib/ld-linux.so.3 (0x2a00) but ffmpeg -h yields: ffmpeg -h -bash: /opt/ffmpeg: Permission denied Am i doing something wrong? marakasmalan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66887 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
ralphy wrote: > I have uploaded a newer armel ffmpeg 3.2.4 build to > https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/utility/ > > The ffmpeg-static binary has no external library dependencies and the > ffmpeg binary no longer needs the libasound shared library. Thank you very much! If I install the ffmpeg-sattic binary, must I rename it to ffmpeg? I appreciate your response, I will try and install it as soon as I get home - will this also fix the SOX issue? marakasmalan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66887 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marakasmalan wrote: > > Set up DSD player on my armv5tel based NAS. Thanks to binaries from > Ralphy > managed to get a version of ffmpeg running, but not with libasound.soor > libsox > ffmpeg 3.1.3 (I do not think this is required, but I hoped this would > solve the libsox issue) yields: > ffmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot > open shared object file: No such file or directory > ldd ffmpeg > libasound.so.2 => not found > libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40006000) > librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x400ad000) > libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x400bc000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x400d) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400f) > /lib/ld-linux.so.3 (0x2a00) > > If I use ffmpeg 2.4.7 the same: > ldd ffmpeg > libasound.so.2 => not found > libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40006000) > librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x400ad000) > libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x400bc000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x400d) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400f) > /lib/ld-linux.so.3 (0x2a00) > > If I use ffmpeg 0.8.6 (This one is on the NAS and part of their Photos > app) > ldd ffmpeg > libavfilter.so.2 => /opt/photos2/lib/libavfilter.so.2 > (0x40001000) > libavformat.so.53 => /opt/photos2/lib/libavformat.so.53 > (0x4006c000) > libavcodec.so.53 => /opt/photos2/lib/libavcodec.so.53 > (0x4016) > libpostproc.so.51 => /opt/photos2/lib/libpostproc.so.51 > (0x40ea6000) > libswscale.so.2 => /opt/photos2/lib/libswscale.so.2 (0x40ec4000) > libavutil.so.51 => /opt/photos2/lib/libavutil.so.51 (0x40ef6000) > libx264.so.119 => /opt/photos2/lib/libx264.so.119 (0x40f2) > libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x41057000) > libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x410fe000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x41112000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x41132000) > libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4126d000) > libmp3lame.so.0 => /opt/photos2/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 (0x41289000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.3 (0x2a00) > > It seems I need to get libsox installed somehow, but I do not know how > and connot find any information / or do not know what / where to look > for. I have uploaded a newer armel ffmpeg 3.2.4 build to https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/utility/ The ffmpeg-static binary has no external library dependencies and the ffmpeg binary no longer needs the libasound sharied library. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *1*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Peter Galbavy wrote: > As a non-DSD aside, I do find that FLAC 5.1 files play (and obviously > are found) fine in stereo in LMS - and they sounds fine as stereo. There > must be a mapping as part of the standard. If problem is limited to map (or mix) channels, You could use SOX, just insert an appropriate line in custom-convert.conf. SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
As a non-DSD aside, I do find that FLAC 5.1 files play fine in stereo in LMS - and they sounds fine as stereo. There must be a mapping as part of the standard. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Yes LMS doe not handle multichannel . And the Touch does not have hdmi , i know that spdiff and toslink only Handles ac3 or dts coded multichannel not discrete multichannel, hdmi does that . Don't know if any multichannel USB soundcard could be used ( in theory ). Squeezplay ( the native player in Touch ) and Squeezelite is also 2 channel . So LMS is 2 channel probaly not trivial to fix , A new multichannel software player for LMS must be developed that's not trivial either ? Possibly for use on a raspberry pi who has hdmi . Original squeezebox hardware is probably never going to work . If it where easy someone would have done it already. I would love such a feature for my DVDA's Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Well, after much scratching of head and finding out which SACDs were 2 channel only, I see that LMS + DSDplay ignore or otherwise don't scan non 2.0 DSF files, so the above question about DoP is not important. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
This is a very long thread and while I have scanned it I may missed the answer, sorry. I now have SACD rip capabilities (yay) and want to see if it's feasible to play multichannel .dsf files via my Touch into my Denon amp. For this I think I need DoP, but it's not an option in my LMS settings (DSDPlay just says "DSDPlayer will transcode DSD to PCM for this player. Use the settings below to tune resampling parameters.") Is this not possible on SPDI/F linked players or just the normal / real Squeezeboxes? Ta. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Mnyb wrote: > I have very few DSf files that's my use of this plugin . You seems to > have tried this more than me. > > Is DFF files supported ? Or are we advised to convert those to DSF . > > Afaik DFF does not support tags ? So,it's pretty useless ? DSF can be > tagged . I'm just working on that matter this days. DFF does not support tags (or better, as is per was, you could attach some Idv3 tag someway, but is obscure and not commonly supported), cue files maybe could supports dff, I don't know, I should try... DFF (native) playback is supported in LMS, DOP or converted to PCM via DSDPLAY or Squeezelite is not so clear to me, but i suppose is not (I'll have a try shortly). Reason why I'm not so interested in DFF or others is that I'm going to use SOX server side to transcode to dsf or pcm from any format, eventually resampling, this way, for instance, dff is converted on the fly to dsf (maybe it could be better the inverse, but too much work to do on squeezelite). DSD (dsf or dff) id always converted to DOP or PCM in squeezelite, depending on DAC capabilities and settings, there is no 'native' suport even in windows with ASIO. Daphile has some pathces that allows you to output DSD over PCM in Linux, but using non DOP format, more like as ASIO does in windows (https://github.com/lintweaker/xmos-native-dsd). I'm testing those patches over "standard" squeezelite to be used with LMS, then I'll try to allow 'native' palyback with AISO drivers at least in Windows. The benefit of 'natives' formats over PCM is reduced size (and band) by at least 33% (dop is 8 bit marker 16 bit data, 'natives' are no marker and up to 32 bit data). SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
So I wonder if it is possible to update LMS for "Sparc" compilation to version including Audio::Scan 0.95. As somebody already mentioned the Sparc based ReadyNAS just isn't up to the task of running LMS any more. We have hacks in the code just to make it run acceptable. But don't expect it to do any advanced stuff like transcoding. You might be better off getting a Raspberry Pi do run LMS (leaving the music files themselves on the NAS). -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > Audioscan 0.95 will find and show dsf files. > DSDPLAY will play dsf file 'native' DOP or converting to PCM, depending > on the player capabilties and your settings. > If you have squeezelite (normal versione) as player, you could just play > DOP ( -D option) or convert to PCM. Playing 'native' DSD is possible > using Daphile. I have very few DSf files that's my use of this plugin . You seems to have tried this more than me. Is DFF files supported ? Or are we advised to convert those to DSF . Afaik DFF does not support tags ? So,it's pretty useless ? DSF can be tagged . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
bow wrote: > Lately I started my adventure with DFF and DSF files. > I added DSD plugin to foobar on my laptop and I can run DFF/DSF in this > app - but it is no quality, just useful for files management. > So now it is time for my music systems. > > I updated LMS to latest build on my ReadyNas Duo v1 and Touch to 7.8 > (EDO pluging installed long ago). > I see DSD plugin installed but DSD player configuration page in LMS has > only notification: > "DSDPlayer will transcode DSD to PCM for this player. Use the settings > below to tune resampling parameters." > > and no option to configure. After study this thread I guess the reason > is Audio::Scan version - still 0.93 on my Duo: > > Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1485931015 @ Sun Feb 5 04:07:09 > UTC 2017 > Hostname: readynas > Server IP Address: ... > Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 > Operating system: Netgear RAIDiator - EN - utf8 > Platform Architecture: sparc-linux > Perl Version: 5.8.8 - sparc-linux > Audio::Scan: 0.93 > Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) > > I thought I would be able to compile 0.95 myself with "how to" found > here, but I failed after SSH configuration and ZIP download from github. > I'm windows guy and working with linux occured too hard for me (I guess > I would need very detailed step by step to be able to follow). > > So I wonder if it is possible to update LMS for "Sparc" compilation to > version including Audio::Scan 0.95. Audioscan 0.95 will find and show dsf files. DSDPLAY will play dsf file 'native' DOP or converting to PCM, depending on the player capabilties and your settings. If you have squeezelite (normal versione) as player, you could just play DOP ( -D option) or convert to PCM. Playing 'native' DSD is possible using Daphile. SB+, Klimo Merlino + Kent Gold, Monitor Audio Studio 20 Gold SE+, Klimo reference and DIS Interconnect. marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
bow wrote: > Lately I started my adventure with DFF and DSF files. > I added DSD plugin to foobar on my laptop and I can run DFF/DSF in this > app - but it is no quality, just useful for files management. > So now it is time for my music systems. > > I updated LMS to latest build on my ReadyNas Duo v1 and Touch to 7.8 > (EDO pluging installed long ago). > I see DSD plugin installed but DSD player configuration page in LMS has > only notification: > "DSDPlayer will transcode DSD to PCM for this player. Use the settings > below to tune resampling parameters." > > and no option to configure. After study this thread I guess the reason > is Audio::Scan version - still 0.93 on my Duo: > > Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1485931015 @ Sun Feb 5 04:07:09 > UTC 2017 > Hostname: readynas > Server IP Address: ... > Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 > Operating system: Netgear RAIDiator - EN - utf8 > Platform Architecture: sparc-linux > Perl Version: 5.8.8 - sparc-linux > Audio::Scan: 0.93 > Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) > > I thought I would be able to compile 0.95 myself with "how to" found > here, but I failed after SSH configuration and ZIP download from github. > I'm windows guy and working with linux occured too hard for me (I guess > I would need very detailed step by step to be able to follow). > > So I wonder if it is possible to update LMS for "Sparc" compilation to > version including Audio::Scan 0.95. If you really have sparc cpu aka very old Ready NAS DUO this wont help audiscan 0.95 helps the scanner identify DSD files etc . But the DSD plugin may want to run transcoders to some players or package the files as DoP for some players ? will this work on sparc cpu I dont think soo. Can you run normal samplerate conversion like 24/192 to 24/48 for an older player ? are SoX included and running ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Lately I started my adventure with DFF and DSF files. I added DSD plugin to foobar on my laptop and I can run DFF/DSF in this app - but it is no quality, just useful for files management. So now it is time for my music systems. I updated LMS to latest build on my ReadyNas Duo v1 and Touch to 7.8 (EDO pluging installed long ago). I see DSD plugin installed but DSD player configuration page in LMS has only notification: "DSDPlayer will transcode DSD to PCM for this player. Use the settings below to tune resampling parameters." and no option to configure. After study this thread I guess the reason is Audio::Scan version - still 0.93 on my Duo: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1485931015 @ Sun Feb 5 04:07:09 UTC 2017 Hostname: readynas Server IP Address: ... Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Netgear RAIDiator - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: sparc-linux Perl Version: 5.8.8 - sparc-linux Audio::Scan: 0.93 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) I thought I would be able to compile 0.95 myself with "how to" found here, but I failed after SSH configuration and ZIP download from github. I'm windows guy and working with linux occured too hard for me (I guess I would need very detailed step by step to be able to follow). So I wonder if it is possible to update LMS for "Sparc" compilation to version including Audio::Scan 0.95. bow's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Mnyb wrote: > Is their a program that does this? Foobar2000? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Starboard wrote: > Any idea if this will be possible in near future, or should I have to > change NAS to some Intel based model for this ability? Maybe some other > Media Server will be able to do this? > > Regards, > > Tony Supose its a hardware limit otherwise it would have been done already ? QUOTE=Julf;873399]Sure - I was thinking about pre- (batch) processed/packaged files. Is their a program that does this ? Caveat lms does not know the difference in a multiplayer setup you can get some whitenoise out of non capable players in pllaylists or random play etc Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Mnyb wrote: > The same plugin both provide transcoding and other abilities to wrap DSD > files as DoP I assume it wont install if it cant run completely Sure - I was thinking about pre- (batch) processed/packaged files. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
pinkdot wrote: > AFAIK this is a no-go. You have an ARM-based nas and there is only a > package (DSDplayer) available for Intel based nas. :( > > Greetings, > > Martin Any idea if this will be possible in near future, or should I have to change NAS to some Intel based model for this ability? Maybe some other Media Server will be able to do this? Regards, Tony Starboard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66518 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
.. and also the Audio scan module must be 0.95 for the scanner to pickup the file type . This latest scaner module is often not provided for these nas builds ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
pinkdot wrote: > AFAIK this is a no-go. You have an ARM-based nas and there is only a > package (DSDplayer) available for Intel based nas. :( > > Greetings, > > Martin Julf wrote: > Do you need DSDplayer if your DAC is DoP-capable? LMS should not care > about your music being PCM or DoP. The same plugin both provide transcoding and other abilities to wrap DSD files as DoP I assume it wont install if it cant run completely Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
pinkdot wrote: > AFAIK this is a no-go. You have an ARM-based nas and there is only a > package (DSDplayer) available for Intel based nas. :( Do you need DSDplayer if your DAC is DoP-capable? LMS should not care about your music being PCM or DoP. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Starboard wrote:
> Hi... I need advice on how to play DSD files over LMS 7.9 on Synology
> 216j. I have tried to install 3rd party plug-in on LMS settings, but
> could not find one. Any idea how to enable this?
> Thanks!
AFAIK this is a no-go. You have an ARM-based nas and there is only a
package (DSDplayer) available for Intel based nas. :(
Greetings,
Martin
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(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103636-Test-Repo-for-LMS-7-9-0-on-Synology-DSM-5-*=817970=1#post817970))
-RPI 2 ('Moode 3.0' (http://moodeaudio.org/)), I-SABRE V3.0 ES9023 -
Exposure 3010S2 - PMC GB1i
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi... I need advice on how to play DSD files over LMS 7.9 on Synology 216j. I have tried to install 3rd party plug-in on LMS settings, but could not find one. Any idea how to enable this? Thanks! Starboard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66518 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi Everyone, I have a problem and I'm not sure where it is. :) I am running the Xubuntu 16.04 LTS repo Squeezelite hooked up to a Mytek Brooklyn. It usually works pretty well, although I occasionally have to restart Squeezelite since I sometimes use the PC for TV/Netflix, etc. and want to use the Brooklyn to listen. Anyway, normal DSD files (2.8 MHz) play as expected. I recently was gifted (by the licence owner!) a quad rate album. 11 Mhz DSD. Squeezelite says the DAC can't accept it and converts to 384k PCM. There's not much to report in the log file except that it says the DAC reports it won't support the bit rate: [16:46:56.311900] dsd_decode:527 setting track_start [16:46:56.311900] dsd_decode:533 DOP sample rate too high for device - converting to PCM [16:46:56.311906] dsd_decode:543 DSD to PCM output I tried updating the log settings to DEBUG but didn't get any more information. My config file is pretty basic, no hard coded sample rates. Normally there is no conversion. It plays what i send it. Is this by any chance a known SL issue, or do you think I need to follow up with Mytek?? Thanks for any advice! Erik totoroBounced's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
jacobacci wrote: > Can anyone give me a hint, how to configure the RP2 / DAC+ / LMS combo > to play DSD files (converting them to PCM on the fly). Try adding the Squeezelite parameter "-e dsd". That tells LMS the player won't accept DSD and will in turn activate transcoding to PCM. I'm not sure what generation my Pi is (they accumulate like crazy and I can't keep them straight!) but I've found that in my setup it will usually happily transcode to send to another player but doesn't have enough power to transcode while also being the player. The one time I tried to transcode for itself the music kept cutting out. atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi all I have successfully streamed DSD files from my NAS to several DSD capable DACs, so the setup of LMS on my NAS seems to be ok. I am now trying to get my Raspberry Pi2 with Hifiberry DAC+ to work with DSD files, hoping to convert them to PCM in LMS on the NAS. However, for the Raspberry Pi2, I do not get the usual DoP yes / no checkbox in the DSDPlayer configuration box, but a message "This player supports native playback of DSD files. DSD-over-PCM should be configured on the player configuration interface." 21344 Can anyone give me a hint, how to configure the RP2 / DAC+ / LMS combo to play DSD files (converting them to PCM on the fly). Thanks a lot +---+ |Filename: RP2 DSD configuration page.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21344| +---+ jacobacci's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Learnincurve wrote: > Hi again, > > I have contacted the chip manufacturer, so will see what responses are > given. > > If it turns out that I need to backport more recent version of the > snd_usb module on my touch, does anyone know where I can find a kernel > config and possible patches for the 2.6.26 kernel that I have installed > (I'm currently using Triode's EDO and USB kernels, which does complicate > matters as I don't think is config and patches are available). Does > anyone here have any experience of compiling kernels for the Touch? > If,so, I'd be very glad of any advice. > > BR. To update: I tried playing one of the test files (a DSD64 DSF file), from my Android phone, using HibyMusic. The file played correctly, over USB, using Native, DoP and PCM modes. Only the very faintest interruption was heard when switching modes on-the-fly. Since the last post, I have also tried introducing a USB 2.0 hub between the touch and the DAC. This makes no difference. I have managed to get hold of the 2.6.26 kernel source, including Triodes patches (not sure which ones), so can rebuild the kernel with some tweaks if that might help. BR. Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Learnincurve wrote: > Thanks for that. I'm in a Linux-only house but have tried a number of > dsd files, including some samples, at different rates, from > http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html. > > Have also tried converting dff files (which don't produce sound) to > flac files (at various sample rates), which do up to the supported rate. > DST to DSD conversion (uncompressing) deson't help either. As the > player itself chews through the files and "plays" them (with no sound > except something that sounds like bird-chatter) from the dac, I suspect > that the problem is with the linux support for the chip. I see that > some changes have been made to the snd_usb module since Linux 2.6.22 / > 2.6.26, so was wondering if there's any way to rebuild the module with > some backported patches and load it on the touch. > > On the other hand it may be as simple as me misunderstanding how to > make the settings (filetypes and player) work. > > BR. > > --Marius-- Hi again, I have contacted the chip manufacturer, so will see what responses are given. If it turns out that I need to backport more recent version of the snd_usb module on my touch, does anyone know where I can find a kernel config and possible patches for the 2.6.26 kernel that I have installed (I'm currently using Triode's EDO and USB kernels, which does complicate matters as I don't think is config and patches are available). Does anyone here have any experience of compiling kernels for the Touch? If,so, I'd be very glad of any advice. BR. Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Man in a van wrote: > http://www.cmedia.com.tw/products/USB20_HIGH_SPEED/CM6632A > > ask the mfg? > > At a complete guess, and if you have a windows OS computer, try > foobar2000. You will need to check out what to do, this will/should > confirm if it actually plays your DSD. > > Warning!! drink has been taken!! Thanks for that. I'm in a Linux-only house but have tried a number of dsd files, including some samples, at different rates, from http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html. Have also tried converting dff files (which don't produce sound) to flac files (at various sample rates), which do up to the supported rate. DST to DSD conversion (uncompressing) deson't help either. As the player itself chews through the files and "plays" them (with no sound except something that sounds like bird-chatter) from the dac, I suspect that the problem is with the linux support for the chip. I see that some changes have been made to the snd_usb module since Linux 2.6.22 / 2.6.26, so was wondering if there's any way to rebuild the module with some backported patches and load it on the touch. On the other hand it may be as simple as me misunderstanding how to make the settings (filetypes and player) work. BR. --Marius-- Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
I bought a 'S.M.S.L Sanskrit Pro' (http://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/info/hi-res-guide/s-m-s-l-sanskrit-pro-up-to-24-bit177669) and have it connected over USB. 192KHz flac files play fine. DSD I haven't managed to make work at all yet. The DAC is based on the CMEDIA CM6632A chip, which should handle DSD up to 5.6MHz. I have tried both DFF DFF disabled FLAC dsdplay DSF DSF disabled FLAC dsdplay as well as DFF DFF native FLAC dsdplay DSF DSF native FLAC dsdplay Both of which "play" the file, but no sound is produced. At the player settings page, I have tried both checking and unchecking DSD over PCM and setting and removing: Soxr Quality: High quality Soxr Filter: Linear Phase Soxr Steep Filter: Soxr Steep Filter None of which seems to make any difference. Disabling DFF/DSF: Flac on the file types causes the file not to play at all. I have Player volume fixed at 100% and am using EDO (with the standard EDO kernel) and audio output set to USB Sanskrit pro. I have tried the three available USB DAC kernels (EDO Release kernel and TEST kernels #11 and #12), none of which make much difference. Does anyone know of a different kernel or patch that would allow DSD to work into the CMEDIA CM6632A ? Many thanks. --Marius-- Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Man in a van wrote: > Hi BR, > > Edo on the SBT gives 24/192 max on both spdif outputs. > > Looking at the spec for your receiver I can see no USB input which would > be needed for DSD in direct form. > > One of the cheapest DSD dacs that work with the SBT usb output is 'this > ' (http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/nano-idsd/) > > There are lots more if you google. > > Ignore the people who tell you not to bother as you are only buying > padded out files :p;):D. > > Enjoy your music. > > If you are in the UK pm me and I can post a couple for you to try (if > your not in a hurry :) ). > > atb > > ronnie Hi Ronnie and thanks for your answer. I was looking at the ifi, both Nano and Micro (I see that the micro supports up to DSD512, but that's probably overkill). As I really don't have much money to spend right now I was also wondering about one of 'these' (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Douk-Audio-DSD1796-XMOS-U8-USB-DAC-384K-32bit-Audio-Decoder-Hi-Fi-Headphone-Amp/272135517039?_trksid=p5411.c100167.m2940&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140131123730%26meid%3D71c5c86901e7495291cacc2b90679d6e%26pid%3D100167%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D131488385472) (or similar) from ebay, but being Chinese, I worry about the quality. Can anyone give any advice regarding the Soxr settings? Cheers! --Marius-- Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Learnincurve wrote: > Hi all, > > My LMS 7.9 and touch (using latest firmware) with EDO play through > COAX into a Cambridge audio Azur 640 surround receiver, that I use for > both music (from the touch) and multimedia. > > Although I am quite pleased with the sound, the coaxial input is limited > to 24 bit / 96KHz. > > I am now starting to collect some Hi Rez material, including dsf/dff > files and have installed the dsd player plugin v.1.0 > > The touch seems to play the tracks quite happily > > I have tried various settings on the file type and squeezebox DSDPlayer > configuration interfaces. Most result in nasty white noise from the > "dac"/decoder, while disabling DFF | DFF and DSF | DSF and choosing > dsdplay for DFF | FLAC and DSF | FLAC did give me (very muffled and > faint) sound out. > > > DOP on or off gives no noticable difference. > > > So I am left with three options: > > 1. (Ideally) Buy a DSD-capable DAC and play back through that. This > would have to be extreme budget equipment at present, but any > suggestions gratefully received. > 2. Can I resample the output from the touch, using the Soxr settings on > the DSDPlayer config for the touch? I can't find any description of > settings. Can anyone point me in the right direction, or suggest > settings I could try? > 3. (least favourite solution). I ca down-sample the source files using > dsf2flac, but would prefer not to do this, in case I go for option 1 > later. > > I'd be really glad of any help or advice that anyone can give. > > BR. Hi BR, Edo on the SBT gives 24/192 max on both spdif outputs. Looking at the spec for your receiver I can see no USB input which would be needed for DSD in direct form. One of the cheapest DSD dacs that work with the SBT usb output is 'this ' (http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/nano-idsd/) There are lots more if you google. Ignore the people who tell you not to bother as you are only buying padded out files :p;):D. Enjoy your music. If you are in the UK pm me and I can post a couple for you to try (if your not in a hurry :) ). atb ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
Hi all, My LMS 7.9 and touch (using latest firmware) with EDO play through COAX into a Cambridge audio Azur 640 surround receiver, that I use for both music (from the touch) and multimedia. Although I am quite pleased with the sound, the coaxial input is limited to 24 bit / 96KHz. I am now starting to collect some Hi Rez material, including dsf/dff files and have installed the dsd player plugin v.1.0 The touch seems to play the tracks quite happily I have tried various settings on the file type and squeezebox DSDPlayer configuration interfaces. Most result in nasty white noise from the "dac"/decoder, while disabling DFF | DFF and DSF | DSF and choosing dsdplay for DFF | FLAC and DSF | FLAC did give me (very muffled and faint) sound out. DOP on or off gives no noticable difference. So I am left with three options: 1. (Ideally) Buy a DSD-capable DAC and play back through that. This would have to be extreme budget equipment at present, but any suggestions gratefully received. 2. Can I resample the output from the touch, using the Soxr settings on the DSDPlayer config for the touch? I can't find any description of settings. Can anyone point me in the right direction, or suggest settings I could try? 3. (least favourite solution). I ca down-sample the source files using dsf2flac, but would prefer not to do this, in case I go for option 1 later. I'd be really glad of any help or advice that anyone can give. BR. Learnincurve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
