Re: Konqueror and Java applets

2002-09-17 Thread Martin Rowe
On Monday 16 September 2002 11:22 pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: [snip] Can you supply some urls for me to test? Try http://www.400times.co.uk which has some navigation 'bubbles' on the left. In Galeon they appear in the browser window, in Konqueror they end up in a separate window

Re: Konqueror and Java applets

2002-09-17 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Monday 16 September 2002 23:22, Martin Rowe wrote: On Monday 16 September 2002 11:22 pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: [snip] Can you supply some urls for me to test? Try http://www.400times.co.uk which has some navigation 'bubbles' on the left. In Galeon they appear in the browser

Re: Fwd: Re: man page edits.

2002-09-17 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
I agree. I think that got patched in an edit. actually they will all be on a line by themselves in URL syntax. http://%s/[%s] I'm not much on capitals. Bbkeys looks weird. Only an english teacher would do that. --Brig --- Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL

Re: Fwd: Re: man page edits.

2002-09-17 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
--- Keith T. Fancher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Line 102: in addition to www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/, perhaps the new official WindowMaker dockapp site should be mentioned (dockapps.org). It seems to be a little better as far as actually being able to DOWNLOAD dockapps, since it mirrors

RE: Fwd: Re: man page edits.

2002-09-17 Thread Larson, Timothy E.
s/three button/three-button/ is hyphenated preferred over spaces? IIRC from long-ago high school classes, you hyphenate when the two words together form a single adjective that describe the following word/term. But you can argue whether the first word is part of a single adjective with the

RE: Fwd: Re: man page edits.

2002-09-17 Thread Larson, Timothy E.
bbtools.thelinuxcommunity.org. Exactly /which/ reason? The reason that some mail/news readers that try to automatically identify URLs often screw up. I think that usage is deprecated, just like http:// and www. Yes, they can just as easily be inferred by the human reader. However,

new mailing list address

2002-09-17 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Due to problems with our current mail archives and issues with the speed that admin requests are handled we are moving the mailing list to asgardsrealm.net which Jamin Collins hosts. This is a gracious offer on his part. Brad will have the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail sent to the new list so no

Re: new mailing list address

2002-09-17 Thread Rachel Collins
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:46:05 -0400 Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are subscriptions going to be automagically moved over? (In case you haven't noticed the message from Jamin yet) Already done. ;-) -- Rachel Collins

Re: Fwd: Re: man page edits.

2002-09-17 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 13:49, Robert wrote: That's 'their file name' assuming that hasn't already been picked up, and it probably should mention that it doesn't search subdirectories of that path. (It also ignores file~ but that's getting a bit arcane) got that already, thanks.

Re: Fwd: Re: man page edits.

2002-09-17 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
--- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 14 September 2002 12:59, Keith T. Fancher wrote: -Line 572: Where it says you may need to tar and gunzip separately, it really should say tar and gzip separately. actually gunzip is a valid command. gunzip is a valid

Re: Spanish translation

2002-07-25 Thread Marian Andre
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 07:06:01PM -0400, Jan Schaumann wrote: rkc ( BreakStuff ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the mail is for all the spanish-speaking users, why do u write it in English ? Weil halt auch anders-sprachige Leute diese Mailingliste lesen. -Jan -- Presne tak, prispejme

Re: Spanish translation

2002-07-25 Thread Kolbe Kegel
this SAME thing with all the languages just happened on the mplayer list.. how weird. Marian Andre wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 07:06:01PM -0400, Jan Schaumann wrote: rkc ( BreakStuff ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the mail is for all the spanish-speaking users, why do u write it in

Re: Spanish translation

2002-07-25 Thread Marian Andre
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 12:38:46AM -0700, Kolbe Kegel wrote: this SAME thing with all the languages just happened on the mplayer list.. how weird. As the Jan Schaumann wrote, mail in the list in English, privates in whatever you want (and understand, of course :) My 'exhibition' was only

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-25 Thread Bertrand Duret
Le Samedi 13 Juillet 2002 10:31, Marco Fioretti a écrit : On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 10:04:54 at 10:04:54AM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: What sessions are available for selection in the menus of the GDM screen, or are there any? I'm at home now, will check monday, but as far as I remember it

Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts

2002-07-25 Thread Matt Wilson
I'm at home now, will check monday, but as far as I remember it says last, failsafe, default, gnome. I am certainly late, but just coming back from holidays :-) Why don't you use default session ? It will make gdm run your ~/.xsession and nothing else. I haven't run gdm since a long

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-25 Thread Art Haas
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:29:12PM -0500, Ben Jansens wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 06:32:46PM -0500, Art Haas wrote: The AC_PROG_CC macro sets the variable GCC to yes if it finds out that the user is compiling with GCC (g++ in our case). After applying this patch, you'll need to

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-25 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 06:32:46PM -0500, Art Haas wrote: Here is a small patch (kind-of/sort-of tested) that should only set the '-Wall -W -pedanctic' flags if the person building blackbox is compiling with GCC. woo, thanks!! The AC_PROG_CC macro sets the variable GCC to yes if it finds

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-25 Thread Art Haas
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 09:30:28AM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 06:32:46PM -0500, Art Haas wrote: The AC_PROG_CC macro sets the variable GCC to yes if it finds out that the user is compiling with GCC (g++ in our case). After applying this patch, you'll need to

Re: Spanish translation

2002-07-25 Thread Francis Lavoie
He said : There's people who speak also another languages. Comprenez-vous? ;-) --- Marian Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 12:38:46AM -0700, Kolbe Kegel wrote: this SAME thing with all the languages just happened on the mplayer list.. how weird. As the

Encoding problem

2002-07-25 Thread Marian Andre
Hi all, I'm working on Slovak translation of Blackbox WM and I've got one problem: Slovak language uses iso-8859-2 codepage, but the styles in distribution don't have set the property font on such font... My idea was that I might edit current styles, and make something like styles-il2.tar.gz

Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Hello I just experienced this bug using IBM's newest JRE v1.3.1. It does *not* happen so frequently with IBM's JRE as with Sun's, though, but still, it happens.(Again, dialogs are the problem) Just wanted to point this out, so we know it doesn't only happen with Sun's java stuff. -- Øyvind

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Chris Grossmann
Note: Using the four-letter j word seems to be a good way to make Shaleh use the four-letter f word. ;) On July 25 (12:45 EDT), Øyvind Stegard wrote: Hello I just experienced this bug using IBM's newest JRE v1.3.1. It does *not* happen so frequently with IBM's JRE as with Sun's, though,

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Chris Grossmann wrote: Note: Using the four-letter j word seems to be a good way to make Shaleh use the four-letter f word. ;) On July 25 (12:45 EDT), Øyvind Stegard wrote: Hello I just experienced this bug using IBM's newest JRE v1.3.1. It does *not* happen so frequently with IBM's JRE

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Yup, I can certainly understand that. =). It seems like a very hard bug to squash, and doesn't even seem like Blackbox's fault AFAIK. Still, I find it important, simply because many people use Ja** applications, and secondly because it doesn't happen with other WMs

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Nope, I have not tried this wm. Just visited the web page where it belongs. I could give it a whirl later today, perhaps. Will tell my observations of how it behaves with java. (I'll try JRE's from Sun and from IBM) there were reports that fvwm was exhibiting similar symptoms.

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the bug database on another improper window handling bug: Evaluation twm is not currently supported. x@x 2001-01-09 Isn't that like saying that X isn't supported? -- Jamin W. Collins

RE: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: One of the posts mentions SwingSet2 demo. Does anyone know what this is and where I can get it? It's a demo showing off the Swing GUI toolkit. Dunno about Sun, but IBM includes it with their SDK. Pretty nifty, I guess. Demonstrates that Java is still

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Mr. Brigham Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: How do you make a Pentium III perform like a 386? A: Use Java Apps Boy have you been using the wrong Java Apps. Yup, a bit exaggerated. The speed of the newest JVMs is

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Yup, a bit exaggerated. The speed of the newest JVMs is great, if you ask me. Most Java apps I use, run quite smoothly. Btw, I experienced the bug with the Blackdown JRE too, but the problem was more often too small dialogs than too big.(Like dialog sizes of 2x10 pixels and such) -

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:00:47PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 25-Jul-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:00:35AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: further reading reports that Sun's marketing group has declared GNOME/Sawfish the only truly supported Linux desktop

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:18:24PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:00:47PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 25-Jul-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:00:35AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: further reading reports that Sun's marketing group has

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It was my understanding that it was based off of Blackbox. Teach me to open my fool mouth... if it's based off of Blackbox, it's only in spirit, 'cause even *I* can tell the two of them don't look anything like each other. Like Gnome would ever adopt anything written in C++ in the first

Re: Java/Blackbox oversized window bug with IBM JRE

2002-07-25 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
--- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25-Jul-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Mr. Brigham Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: How do you make a Pentium III perform like a 386? A: Use Java Apps Boy have you been using the wrong Java

any programmers with time on their hands

2002-07-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
So here is one way to track down the Java bug. Disable almost all of BlackboxWindow::BlackboxWindow(). Slowly enable line by line until the bug occurs. At least then we know where and can learn why. Also, I have heard the 0.62 does not demonstrate this problem but I have also heard that it is

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-24 Thread Mr . X
I found something fairly interesting, thought I'd check here to see if anybody else can reproduce it before I submit. Using Sylpheed (0.8.0), if you hit the Get button a dialog pops up and shows the download status of the mail. If you toggle the decor of this dialog off, then back on again it

Spanish translation

2002-07-24 Thread Adriano Varoli Piazza
Hello, this is for all the spanish-speaking users: I'm taking care of the nls files for es_ES, es_AR, es_MX... and I don't want to step on anybody's language toes. So please tell me how would you like translated the following: -display (I like display, but the older file read despliegue).

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-Jul-2002 Mr.X wrote: I found something fairly interesting, thought I'd check here to see if anybody else can reproduce it before I submit. Using Sylpheed (0.8.0), if you hit the Get button a dialog pops up and shows the download status of the mail. If you toggle the decor of this

Re: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-07-24 Thread aetius
Some questions to clarify my thoughts on this, and a possible idea: The MapRequest event is the event that assigns a workspace value to the application? This event occurs just before the application is displayed? There is some sort of time mapping with each process when it is started, right?

Re: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-07-24 Thread Ben Jansens
I don't think you understand the problem. Blackbox doesn't know when you run/ran an application. It doesn't know anything about such an applciation until the application map's its window. And at that point in time, Blackbox uses whatever workspace is visible. xOr msg08054/pgp0.pgp

Re: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-07-24 Thread Georg Nikodym
On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 12:32, Ben Jansens wrote: I don't think you understand the problem. Blackbox doesn't know when you run/ran an application. It doesn't know anything about such an applciation until the application map's its window. And at that point in time, Blackbox uses whatever

Re: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-07-24 Thread Ben Jansens
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 12:49:33PM -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote: On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 12:32, Ben Jansens wrote: I don't think you understand the problem. Blackbox doesn't know when you run/ran an application. It doesn't know anything about such an applciation until the application map's

Re: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-07-24 Thread aetius
I think I understand now. MapRequest events don't have a pid attached (and I would have known that had I looked at the docs before, tsk, tsk), and there doesn't seem to be a way to find out what pid caused the event. Hmmm. Matt Ben Jansens wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 12:49:33PM -0400,

Re: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-07-24 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 12:23:53PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: As I see it the best we can manage would look like this. process deleted Didn't you just describe bbappconf/bblaunch? :) -- Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Slight niggle/bug perhaps.

2002-07-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-Jul-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 12:23:53PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: As I see it the best we can manage would look like this. process deleted Didn't you just describe bbappconf/bblaunch? :) yep, that was kind of the point (-:

Re: Spanish translation

2002-07-24 Thread Jan Schaumann
rkc ( BreakStuff ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the mail is for all the spanish-speaking users, why do u write it in English ? Weil halt auch anders-sprachige Leute diese Mailingliste lesen. -Jan -- Ancient Principle of WYGIWYGAINGW: What You Get Is What YouŽre Given, And ItŽs No Good

Re: Spanish translation

2002-07-24 Thread Adriano Varoli Piazza
El Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:06:01 -0400 Jan Schaumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: rkc ( BreakStuff ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the mail is for all the spanish-speaking users, why do u write it in English ? Weil halt auch anders-sprachige Leute diese Mailingliste lesen. That's right, so

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-24 Thread Mr . X
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I found it, committing now. Let me know. For reference this also happen(s|ed) with mozilla's url window. Part of the problem is that there is no memory associated with the decor setting. So if

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-24 Thread Ben Jansens
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 06:32:46PM -0500, Art Haas wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:22:56PM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: [ ... snippage ... ] However I would like configure to be able to set the compiler flags properly. as would i. i'm looking into how this configure beast works

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-24 Thread Adriano Varoli Piazza
El Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:40:14 -0400 Mr.X [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I found it, committing now. Let me know. For reference this also happen(s|ed) with mozilla's url window. Part of the

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Actually, it could be an interesting thing to solve (albeit a very minor one): when I open a window with a text form in it, sometimes it isn't the right size to display the whole text, and having only the close-minimize buttons, but no handles, it is uncomfortable to scroll back forth.

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-24 Thread Adriano Varoli Piazza
El Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: mozilla sets several hints detailing exactly what decor we should give it. The problem is these hints are destroyed when you toggle decor. The lack of resize handles is by request. Not a Mozilla bug,

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-23 Thread Roman Neuhauser
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:05:43 -0400 From: Jan Schaumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Blackbox web site] Mr. Brigham Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originally I understood the use of Un*x was to protect against lawsuits from ATT during the

beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
I just installed beta3 on one of my machines, and most everything seems rock solid. The only thing that I'm missing is a feature I'd noticed and liked that I first saw in the alpha series (I'm running alpha7 on my other box) -- being able to shade a window using the mouse wheel. Has this feature

RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 10:55, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I just installed beta3 on one of my machines, and most everything seems rock solid. The only thing that I'm missing is a feature I'd noticed and liked that I first saw in the alpha

RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only affected Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from x0r, and also had code for the window shading and thus

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-23 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 09:00:39AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: math.h is the wrong header, it should be stdlib.h (in C++ cfoo means it is the wrapper for foo.h). ok, yes, it is in stdlib.h, you are right. the issue here then is that there is no stdlib.h C++ wrapper on IRIX. that's

Re: beta3 and bbappconf iconic

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:29, Ben Jansens wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:16:38PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with 0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it, running bbappconf -i

RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:17, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only affected Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from

Re: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread D. Olson
Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to do it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled and made an RPM. Yay! It works great. On Tuesday 23 July 2002 01:42 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:17, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On

Re: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote: Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to do it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled and made an RPM. Yay! It works great. cd blackbox patch -p1 /path/to/patch

Re: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread D. Olson
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 02:42 pm, you wrote: On 23-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote: Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to do it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled and made an RPM. Yay! It works great. cd blackbox patch -p1

decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
If you use windows with no decor or minimal decor or are a heavy bbtool user please consider testing the cvs code. I made a few cleanups today which appear to be sound but I would like to hear positive results from a few users. Specifically: does your window lose its close button unexpectedly?

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Russ Burdick
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:18:51PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: does your window lose its close button unexpectedly? not that i've seen. seems ok so far. if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change? yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that windows

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change? yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that windows without decor get it back on a bb restart, but then continue to behave normally. what used to happen (and i'm not sure if this is a new change or not) was the

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread D. Olson
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 03:44 pm, you wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:18:51PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: does your window lose its close button unexpectedly? not that i've seen. seems ok so far. if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change? yep, the decor does change.

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Russ Burdick
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 04:10:22PM -0400, D. Olson wrote: Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually, more importantly, is this a feature available beta3? as far as i know it's been in blackbox for a while, including the recent betas. as for toggling,

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually, more importantly, is this a feature available beta3? bbkeys has a binding for this there is no way to do it directly from blackbox.

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Mads Martin Joergensen
* D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 23. 2002 22:10]: yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that windows without decor get it back on a bb restart, but then continue to behave normally. what used to happen (and i'm not sure if this is a new change or not) was the

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
As to the decorless window over a restart, I am looking into it. excellent. keep up the good work! for whatever reason the decor was not handled by the code which restores a window on startup. I added in the code. Needs loads of testing.

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Russ Burdick
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 01:51:01PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: for whatever reason the decor was not handled by the code which restores a window on startup. I added in the code. Needs loads of testing. just gave it a try and it is working here. everything behaved as expected on

Re: beta3 and bbappconf iconic

2002-07-23 Thread James Robinson
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 01:29:02PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: The source code is at: http://bbtools.windsofstorm.net/sources/devel/bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3.tar.gz and an unofficial Debian package can be found at:

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread D. Olson
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 04:16 pm, you wrote: Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually, more importantly, is this a feature available beta3? bbkeys has a binding for this there is no way to do it directly from blackbox. Wow. Now that is neat. Thanks.

RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matt Wilson
Or if you use CVS, just patch once and it'll stay in your tree :) On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 04:17, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Matt Wilson
On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 07:18, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: If you use windows with no decor or minimal decor or are a heavy bbtool user please consider testing the cvs code. I made a few cleanups today which appear to be sound but I would like to hear positive results from a few users.

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Matt Wilson
I'm not sure quite what's caused it, but it was something to do with switching decor on/off multiple times - two of the three windows I was decor-switching have done it: now the decor draws in unfocused state fine, but focused state doesn't update the decor properly - all but the font(-color)

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It also seems to work fine across a restart. Only thing I can see is when I un-decor a shaded window, it unshades (that's fine) but when I re-decor it it stays unshaded. Is this intended? Not that it's a big problem... I was just wondering if it was meant to do that. Oh, and why or are a

Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Jul-2002 Matt Wilson wrote: I'm not sure quite what's caused it, but it was something to do with switching decor on/off multiple times - two of the three windows I was decor-switching have done it: now the decor draws in unfocused state fine, but focused state doesn't update the decor

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I would like to enquire about what sort of responsibility, and what the requirements are for maintaining the blackbox manpage. I would love to assist Blackbox develop, and considering I don't have the programming knowledge (at the moment), this is a good place to start I believe. One

RE: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Brian Hechinger wrote: it works. yay!!! ok, here's what i needed to do. first of all, set the following environmental variables: CC=/usr/bin/cc CXX=/usr/bin/CC CXXFLAGS='-LANG:std' or for more optimization (what i used on my R10K Octane): CFLAGS='-O2

RE: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I will update for 0.65 on Monday! But after the summer I'll be starting a freesoftware project under KDE, so i'll switch (for some time) to KDE as default desktop (to learn more about it). enjoy (-: To make all my spare programming time available to the new project next year I would

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
On Monday 22 July 2002 10:38, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I wish Blackbox and you all the best, and I'll really come back to Blackbox after some time!! Wilbert let me publically thank you for your effort. You revitalized the nls support in blackbox and your docs have really helped people

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-22 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 01:35:53AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: only CXXFLAGS is used. yeah, i wasn't too careful with my cut and paste, since those are straight out of my .profile. good call. I will look over your patch and get back to you. there are really only two changes that

[eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
Somebody sent this to me; thought you guys might find it interesting. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. ---BeginMessage--- In this page: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ you write:

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:25:20 -0400 Jan Schaumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody sent this to me; thought you guys might find it interesting. From: Eugenia Loli-Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Blackbox web site In this page: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ you write: M$ Windows

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Mon, Jul22,02 09:34, Jamin W. Collins wrote: In this page: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ you write: M$ Windows (all varieties) I do not know the problem you might have with Microsoft sir, but this is down right unprofessional and filthy to reffer to Microsoft as M$, ESPECIALLY

Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I will look over your patch and get back to you. there are really only two changes that were made, first, '#include cstdlib' was removed since MIPSpro doesn't use it, and second, std::abs() doesn't exist on MIPSpro so i had to use the abs() in the C math routines, and needed to add

Re: a shot in the dark

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Roy Wood wrote: I did not bother trying to dig through the thousands of messages (-: Yesterday evening I received a mail from one of Sun's people asking me to please test under 1.4.1 beta they just released. Downloaded it this morning. I also forwarded them the URL that Roy

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Mike
I don't know what the big deal is. I'd just leave it, who cares, not worth the time/thought/effort. If people are going to get all freaked out over something like this, let 'em. That first reply was supposed to be sent back to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I forgot to change the To:, :/, then I

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Jul-2002 Mike wrote: I don't know what the big deal is. I'd just leave it, who cares, not worth the time/thought/effort. If people are going to get all freaked out over something like this, let 'em. Cygwin is a more accurate depiction anyway so that is what the webpage now says.

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought referring to the company as M$ was like referring to Un*x, it just avoided the explicit name and the need to pay someone (-: The difference is that M$ contains a judgement. Un*x or it's variants are neutral. It's intended to

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22-Jul-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: Somebody sent this to me; thought you guys might find it interesting. how is it you received this? You happen to be the first address on the screen shots page so if she chose that link that shows a certain

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
--- Jan Schaumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP The difference is that M$ contains a judgement. Un*x or it's variants are neutral. It's intended to summarize the various flavors of UNIX-like operating systems with one word. I've started using

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Mon, Jul22,02 09:34, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: You might want to add a short mailto-link at the bottom of the index-page. yeah, I suppose I should. [EMAIL PROTECTED]? DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the

Re: will stop maintaining Dutch NLS and manpage after 0.65 (was

2002-07-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Hmm, ok, count me in then. My first language is Dutch and my second is English, so I don't really expect any problems with it. I'll look at the current Dutch manuals to see what style they're written in (e.g. formal or plain Dutch) and I'll just write the new ones just like it. If you

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread astralflight6
In mho.. People are simply way too sensitive. I like to think of the internet as the Wild West in a way. People say whatever they want, and it's up to us to realize that we have every right to disagree, but *no* right to censor the views of others. In fact, I actually enjoy this

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Schaumann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People are simply way too sensitive. I like to think of the internet as the Wild West in a way. People say whatever they want, and it's up to us to realize that we have every right to disagree, but *no* right to censor the views of others. This has nothing to do

FAQ for Brigham Young

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
Full name Robert Brigham Young II, I go by my middle name but actually answer to both fairly reliably depending on the voice. Feel free to call me Brig. To answer once and for all the inevitable questions 1. Yes I am LDS. 2. No I am not a Wacko. 3. I currently have 0 wives. 4. I have never had

Re: intent to remove Top and Bottom Center option from slit

2002-07-22 Thread Cary Mathews
Umm, hi. I've been using BB for a while, really enjoy the minimal feel. I just upgraded from 0.62.1 to 0.65.x (from sourceforge) and had some confusion over terminology. I had assumed that the slit was the bar at the bottom of the screen which had the workspace name in it and the time. But from

Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-22 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
--- Jan Schaumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Brigham Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've started using Nix because it seems more inclusive. How's Nix (or *nix) more inclusive than Un*x? None of these includes Linux, HP UX, AIX, IRIX, *BSD, Solaris etc. ? ;-) The same thing Un*x

Re: intent to remove Top and Bottom Center option from slit

2002-07-22 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
The toolbar is the horizontal ba at bottom of screen with workspace names and date (for example). Right click on it: it should say Toolbar. For other definition, see What is the Slit? at http://www.reedmedia.net/misc/blackbox/faq.html Jeremy C. Reed

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