RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:33 PM 8/2/03 -0500, Horn, John wrote: From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Loo-tin-at Ker-nal. Ah, heck. I can't spell Lt either. Unlike the old joke about engineer, I never learned how to spell it correctly despite

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-02 Thread Horn, John
From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm 1115 behind :) I don't know whether to admit defeat or not... It's not as bad as another list where I am 41359 behind... I think it's time to quit that particular list! Sheesh, and I thought 200 behind was bad... - jmh

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-02 Thread Horn, John
From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Loo-tin-at Ker-nal. Ah, heck. I can't spell Lt either. One of those words that I've never been able to get down. Kinda like caffeine, vacuum and torture. (Spell check caught those!) - jmh ___

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:33 PM 8/2/03 -0500, Horn, John wrote: From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Loo-tin-at Ker-nal. Ah, heck. I can't spell Lt either. Unlike the old joke about engineer, I never learned how to spell it correctly despite being one. One of those words that I've never been able to

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: It is, however, important to know that %20 of the world population is far enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic. Where does this statistic come from? Sally Shaywitz M.D.

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-01 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 19:27 2003-07-31 -0500, Ronn! wrote: At 10:20 AM 8/1/03 +1000, Russell Chapman wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Loo-tin-at Ker-nal. Leftennant Kernal for those of us who recognise Queen Elizabeth II. If Lieutenant is a french word, we say leftennant and USA'ns say Lootenant, what do the French say?

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-08-01 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon Gabriel wrote: Never give up! Never surrender! (Kudos if you can name the reference.) ;-) For some reason, even after I saw that this was from Galaxy Quest, I kept thinking I had heard it in Babylon 5 as well, but I think the actual B5 reference is No surrender, no retreat. Reggie

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ritu
Jan Coffey wrote: And before anyone misunderstands me, -NO- I don't want the poor Indean national to have to work 80 hours a week for 1/4 the pay eaither. And -YES- I would like him to be as gainfully employed as me. Indean? Ritu ___

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: And before anyone misunderstands me, -NO- I don't want the poor Indean national to have to work 80 hours a week for 1/4 the pay eaither. And -YES- I would like him to be as gainfully employed as me. Indean? You know, Ritu,

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:01:52 -0700 (PDT) --- Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 06:03 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: I regularly skip threads completely here I find it impossible to keep up. (I'm now 591 posts behind.) I'm sure that others do the same. I'm 1115 behind :) I don't know whether to admit defeat or not... It's not as bad as another

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:31:30 +0100 On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 06:03 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: I

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread patrick
Jon wrote: Never give up! Never surrender! (Kudos if you can name the reference.) ;-) Capt. Taggert in Galaxy Quest! One of the best hard sci-fi movies IMHO. ;-p Patrick Patrick Schlichtenmyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Be silly. Be honest. Be

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Bryon Daly
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon wrote: Never give up! Never surrender! (Kudos if you can name the reference.) ;-) Capt. Taggert in Galaxy Quest! Doh! You're right! I was going to say Winston Churchill! (I was thinking of his We shall defend our island speech).

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:01:52 -0700 (PDT) --- Ritu

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Jon wrote: Never give up! Never surrender! (Kudos if you can name the reference.) ;-) Capt

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, however, important to know that %20 of the world population is far enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic. The inability to spell properly in an illogical system such as English should never be used for ridicule, especialy not to

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 08:02 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: Never give up! Never surrender! (Kudos if you can name the reference.) ;-) Galaxy Quest? -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Those who study

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon wrote: Never give up! Never surrender! (Kudos if you can name the reference.) ;-) Capt. Taggert in Galaxy Quest! One of the best hard sci-fi movies IMHO. ;-p Hey, it won the Hugo. Don't knock it. Julia one of the people responsible for

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, however, important to know that %20 of the world population is far enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic. The inability to spell properly in an illogical system such as English should never be used

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:09 PM 7/30/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: There are dangers there. Take these seven factors and turn them around. Some of them will not sound so pleasing once you get under the surface and down to the WHY the Lt. Cln. addresses. Sorry, Lt. Cln. = ? Light Clinton? Lieutenant Colon?

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Russell Chapman
Jon Gabriel wrote: If it were me, I'd give Ritu the benefit of the doubt. Conversely, if we are going to start pulling up people every time they make a spelling mistake or a typing error, it's going to degenerate very very quickly. I know Ritu is very proud of her heritage and all that, but

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, however, important to know that %20 of the world population is far enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic. The inability to spell properly in an illogical system such as English

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:02 PM 7/31/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:31:30 +0100 On Thursday, July

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, however, important to know that %20 of the world population is far enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic. The inability to spell properly in an

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:29 PM 7/31/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, however, important to know that %20 of the world population is far enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic. The inability to spell properly in an illogical

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:29 PM 7/31/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, however, important to know ...dyslexia... And if your spelling is that bad, and clarification is asked for -- at

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:09 PM 7/31/03 -0700, you wrote: --- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:29 PM 7/31/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, however, important to know ...dyslexia... And if your spelling is that bad,

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Russell Chapman
Jan Coffey wrote: Loo-tin-at Ker-nal. Leftennant Kernal for those of us who recognise Queen Elizabeth II. If Lieutenant is a french word, we say leftennant and USA'ns say Lootenant, what do the French say? Cheers Russell C. ___

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Russell Chapman wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: If it were me, I'd give Ritu the benefit of the doubt. Conversely, if we are going to start pulling up people every time they make a spelling mistake or a typing error, it's going to degenerate very very quickly. I know Ritu is very proud of

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:20 AM 8/1/03 +1000, Russell Chapman wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Loo-tin-at Ker-nal. Leftennant Kernal for those of us who recognise Queen Elizabeth II. If Lieutenant is a french word, we say leftennant and USA'ns say Lootenant, what do the French say? oui -- soo -- ren -- der ;-) --

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jan Coffey wrote: It is, however, important to know that %20 of the world population is far enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic. Where does this statistic come from? Jim ___ Express Yourself - Share Your Mood in Emails! Visit

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Jon Gabriel
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:37 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies At 03:02 PM 7/31/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: From

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ritu
Jan Coffey wrote: The very act of ridiculing, or even admiting to being able to recognize misspellings suggests that the person is from the %80 of the population that is more likely to be unremarkable. So, Ritu, my sincerist appologies. *lol* Since you phrase this so charmingly, I accept

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ritu
Jan Coffey wrote: You know, Ritu, if you are trying to get under my skin, you are doing a damb good job of it. Should we start discussing your own personal flaws? Do you really want to make it persoanl? becouse we can do that. Go ahead and try me. I am not quite sure how to respond to

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This paper was written 5 years ago The Seven Factors These key failure factors are: Restrictions on the free flow of information. The subjugation of women. Inability to accept responsibility for individual or collective failure. The

RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-31 Thread Ritu Chaudhry
Russell Chapman wrote: If it were me, I'd give Ritu the benefit of the doubt. Conversely, if we are going to start pulling up people every time they make a spelling mistake or a typing error, it's going to degenerate very very quickly. I know Ritu is very proud of her heritage and all

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Jan Coffey
There are dangers there. Take these seven factors and turn them around. Some of them will not sound so pleasing once you get under the surface and down to the WHY the Lt. Cln. addresses. A highly effective society could also emplode with tyrany. What kind of life are we willing to have where we

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote: However, the emergant property is very troubeling. I do not wish to be 70 and working long hours every day. What kind of life is it where you get out of bed go to work, leave work, come home and go directly to bed? Many do that now, and are proud of it. They are nothing but

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread TomFODW
Restrictions on the free flow of information. The subjugation of women. Inability to accept responsibility for individual or collective failure. The extended family or clan as the basic unit of social organization. Domination by a restrictive religion. A low valuation of education. Low

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: However, the emergant property is very troubeling. I do not wish to be 70 and working long hours every day. What kind of life is it where you get out of bed go to work, leave work, come home and go directly to bed? Many do

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: However, the emergant property is very troubeling. I do not wish to be 70 and working long hours every day. What kind of life is it where you get out of bed go to work,