Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  BULLY!
 
 Now was this Bully! meant in the sense that you think Eric is 
someone who
 picks on people he thinks are weaker than him, or in the sense of 
strong
 agreement as was the expression used by President Theodore 
Roosevelt? :-)

I don't think you will find much strong agreement from me with TR. 
That man ruined america for the the best sport in the world. If you 
ask me, the ruining of such a fine game was the first step to a 
nation cronicaly overweight. After all, if you are leaner than your 
athletic hero, you got to be healthy right?

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Travis Edmunds



From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:21:20 -0600
At 07:13 AM 2/28/04, Travis Edmunds wrote:

From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:07:10 -0600
At 04:05 PM 2/27/04, Travis Edmunds wrote:

Biology taking precedence over society. And take some solace in the fact 
that we can't escape biology.
Isn't that essentially the same answer some are giving about SSM (and SS 
activity in general)?

Insert Tab A Into Slot B Maru

-- Ronn!  :)
Hey! Call me stupid, but I'm not following you Ron...


Their argument being that biology dictates that you are born with either 
tab A or slot B.*  Biology designed tab A to fit into slot B, and 
biology didn't design two tab As or two slot Bs to fit together, 
therefore that takes precedence over everything else, or, IOW, those who 
engage in SS activity are trying to escape biology by attempting to fit 
parts together which were not designed by biology to fit together.

(*Ignoring the relatively small number born with something not clearly 
identifiable as either a tab or a slot.)

Euphemisms 'R' Us Maru

-- Ronn!  :)


Gotcha. Weak argument to use in the SSM debate though. Humans don't have 
wings, so we shouldn't fly either. Ya...

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RE: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread ChadCooper
 Well, you're half right (2/3). Again, as long as we are being 
 honest, the posts of yours that I have read have been a waste 
 of my time. Not surprising you and Rob would enjoy each 
 other's babble. Although it is disappointing that you make so 
 little effort to discern sense from nonsense before posting 
 your tripe, and that you draw conclusions from such a short baseline.

Hey, I thought you were done with this thread long ago... Why are you still
here?

BTW Why are you complaining about posts that waste your time, when you spend
time responding to them..?

Get off this thread already...  We are discussing this with ourselves

Nerd From Hell

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 10:06:19AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hey, I thought you were done with this thread long ago... Why are you
 still here?

You thought wrong. Read what I wrote. Did you see the word thread? I
was writing to a specific person. Although, that doesn't mean I AM
going to continue to respond in this thread since it has become quite
tiresome.


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RE: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Chad Cooper


 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:42 PM
 To: Killer Bs Discussion
 Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 10:06:19AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hey, I thought you were done with this thread long ago... 
 Why are you 
  still here?

When I hear someone say Goodbye, particularly in the way you said it, I
ALWAYS assume that means they are about to leave, And they intend to do so. 
I have not heard someone say goodbye and NOT mean it since I was 6. It was
generally used as a threat to cut me off if I did not give in to some demand
(Give in or it's GOODBYE!). 

 
 You thought wrong. Read what I wrote. Did you see the word 
 thread? I was writing to a specific person. Although, that 
 doesn't mean I AM going to continue to respond in this thread 
 since it has become quite tiresome.

So are you really going to leave this time? I not quite clear as to whether
this was a.. you know.. Give in or its Goodbye sort of goodbye or just a
regular goodbye like  I'll be see'n ya.. You have me confused at this
point.

Nerd From Hell


 
 
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 05:34:00PM -0800, Chad Cooper wrote:

 When I hear someone say Goodbye, particularly in the way you said
 it, I ALWAYS assume that means they are about to leave,

I said goodbye to a specific person.

 regular goodbye like I'll be see'n ya.. You have me confused at this
 point.

Not hard to do. Maybe I'll keep posting nonsense here as background
noise to leverage you while I work on a meaningful post elsewhere.


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
And becouse ... BULLY!

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 10:06:19AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hey, I thought you were done with this thread long ago... Why are 
you
  still here?
 
 You thought wrong. Read what I wrote. Did you see the 
word thread? I
 was writing to a specific person. Although, that doesn't mean I AM
 going to continue to respond in this thread since it has become 
quite
 tiresome.
 
 
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Bully! was Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 05:34:00PM -0800, Chad Cooper wrote:
 
  When I hear someone say Goodbye, particularly in the way you 
said
  it, I ALWAYS assume that means they are about to leave,
 
 I said goodbye to a specific person.
 
  regular goodbye like I'll be see'n ya.. You have me confused at 
this
  point.
 
 Not hard to do. Maybe I'll keep posting nonsense here as background
 noise to leverage you while I work on a meaningful post elsewhere.
 
 
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andrew said:
  
  You are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow sub-optimal to be a
  women.
 
 Actually, he isn't. He's calling Jan Jane because Jan keeps 
calling
 Erik by variants of his name with additional or alternative 
letters.

Nope, I only started that after the Jane buisness. Besides, no one 
ever acused me of not being in touch with my fem side anyway. But I 
think E-Reich (TLN)'s intent was to make fun of all the 
misspellings, and poke fun at me in a schoolgirl kind of way to 
boot. Hay it's not like the guy doesn't have a high IQ. Now, if he 
would just put it to use doing something other than trying to tick 
people off, he might be usefeul. 

It would be really something if he could show his intelect while 
doing something other than makeing himself a nuecence. Some people 
think it is their God given right to pick on other people. I am sure 
that if E-Reich (TLN) wasn't such a slob he would be one of those 
guys back in highschool who felt it was their duty to beat up anyone 
who they felt was smarter than them.

In E-Reich (TLN)'s case maybe he is just responding to being the guy 
that got beat up all the time. After all if he realy is as smart as 
he keeps trying to get everyone to believe he probably did get beat 
up a lot. However, his inteligance doesn't seem to include self 
awareness of the sort that keeps one from becomeing what they hate.

So with the advent of the internet E-Reich (TLN) is finaly able to 
~be~ the bully himself. What a shame, what a waste.

Unless of course all that talk is not actualy real inteligance. 
Maybe He's just good at words, and looking stuff up and remembering 
tidbits. That's not ~real~ inteligance after all is it?

You know I bet that's it. I bet E-Reich (TLN) seemed like a smart 
guy way back in school, so he got beat up a lot, this gae him a 
complex about not being the alpha, so he persues an on-line, brain 
oriented social life. However, becouse he isn't really good 
understanding and creating, he once again feels like an underdog. So 
he uses his wordsmithing muscle to bully others so he can feel like 
the alpha.

Hay E-Reich (TLN), why don't you just leave people allone you big 
bully!!!

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey

BULLY!

Besides you want to talk about S/N ratio, 

You know, you keep talking about S/N and so I got to
thinking, you know, I don't think it's others S/N, I think that your 
nyquist is just not high enough. 

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:39:22PM +, Richard Baker wrote:
  Erik said:
  
   You do go on like a doofus, don't you?
  
  I don't know if Andrew does, but I know I do!
 
 Occasionally, everyone does I think. But your S/N is quite high. 
So far
 as I have seen, his is very low.
 
 
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 11:17:44PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:

 Jeez Erik, you don't even know the guy.  Andrew's a damn good fellow
 and not prone to noise.  I can understand you not agreeing with him,
 but these knee-jerk retorts are just plain silliness on your part.

And you don't read so well, Rob. Your S/N is also very low.

 I know you think you can fly under the radar forever, and perhaps
 you will, but I truly wonder how long it will be before you see how
 absolutely opaque you are to everyone.

As long as we are being honest, Rob, you are definitely the most
insincere sounding person on the list. I long ago stopped respecting
your posted opinions after seeing all the insincere psychobabble
nonsense you post.


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need


 On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 11:17:44PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:

  Jeez Erik, you don't even know the guy.  Andrew's a damn good
fellow
  and not prone to noise.  I can understand you not agreeing with
him,
  but these knee-jerk retorts are just plain silliness on your part.

 And you don't read so well, Rob. Your S/N is also very low.

  I know you think you can fly under the radar forever, and perhaps
  you will, but I truly wonder how long it will be before you see
how
  absolutely opaque you are to everyone.

 As long as we are being honest, Rob, you are definitely the most
 insincere sounding person on the list. I long ago stopped respecting
 your posted opinions after seeing all the insincere psychobabble
 nonsense you post.



Oh My God
I feel a compulsive need to defend myself!!
Quick, break out the seemingly consistent logic.
We will defeat our enemies with scientific accuracy!


xponent
Your Morning Humor Maru
rob


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jim Sharkey

Jan Coffey wrote:
I'm sorry if you take this personaly.

I didn't take it personally.  I just thought that engaging in fat 
jokes was even more childish than Erik's comment, and that it,
in my mind at least, weakened your position and made you look bad.

Jim

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jim Sharkey

Erik Reuter wrote:
Jane's posts 

Mmm, the sweet smell of eighth grade taunting.  Let's see, we've had 
fat jokes and calling the other guy a girl.  Can making fun of one 
another's mom be far behind?  :)

Jim
Your momma's so fat she stepped on a dollar and made change Maru

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:39:55 -0500
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 11:17:44PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:

 Jeez Erik, you don't even know the guy.  Andrew's a damn good fellow
 and not prone to noise.  I can understand you not agreeing with him,
 but these knee-jerk retorts are just plain silliness on your part.
And you don't read so well, Rob. Your S/N is also very low.

 I know you think you can fly under the radar forever, and perhaps
 you will, but I truly wonder how long it will be before you see how
 absolutely opaque you are to everyone.
As long as we are being honest, Rob, you are definitely the most
insincere sounding person on the list. I long ago stopped respecting
your posted opinions after seeing all the insincere psychobabble
nonsense you post.
--
Erik Reuter
First of all, let me say that after getting to know Robert a bit in the last 
few months, I think he's a pretty cool guy. In direct contrast to you of 
course; and I'm not too sure that he posts much insincere psychobabble 
nonsense. You on the other hand post SINCERE NONSENSE (minus the 
psychobabble). And it's so childish that I can't understand how you justify 
saying the things that you do.

I should also like to say that after reading and gauging what the both of 
you produce on a regular basis, I have come to the conclusion that Robert is 
a lion and you, a boar. Which leads me to this dandy little quote from the 
Illiad:

A boar does not wear out easily, but a lion
will overpower it when the two face off
over a trickling spring up in the mountains
they both want to drink from. The boar
pants hard, but the lion comes out on top
I urge caution Erik. For Robert drinks from this spring regularly. And 
second time around he may not be so nice to the little piggy wiggy.

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Travis Edmunds



From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:14:34 -0600
Travis Edmunds wrote:

 Ah, but if you have ever seen how flies cluster about the brimming milk
 pails on a dairy farm in early summer...
All the dairy farms I've hung out on were using milking machines, no
pails, no access to vast quantities of milk for the flies
	Julia

But the flies always buzz around for some reason. Milk or no.

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:26:43PM -0330, Travis Edmunds wrote:

 First of all, let me say that after getting to know Robert a bit
 in the last few months, I think he's a pretty cool guy. In direct
 contrast to you of course; and I'm not too sure that he posts much
 insincere psychobabble nonsense. You on the other hand post SINCERE
 NONSENSE (minus the psychobabble).

Well, you're half right (2/3). Again, as long as we are being honest,
the posts of yours that I have read have been a waste of my time. Not
surprising you and Rob would enjoy each other's babble. Although it
is disappointing that you make so little effort to discern sense from
nonsense before posting your tripe, and that you draw conclusions from
such a short baseline.


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/28/2004 6:23:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Their argument being that biology dictates that you are born with either 
 tab A or slot B.*  Biology designed tab A to fit into slot B, and 
 biology didn't design two tab As or two slot Bs to fit together, 
 therefore that takes precedence over everything else, or, IOW, those who 
 engage in SS activity are trying to escape biology by attempting to fit 
 parts together which were not designed by biology to fit together.
 
 bob z;
biology designs things for sure [or to be more precise natural selection 
designs things] but it does not do this in a rational way. it does not look 
forward for instance. so some things happen that are not designed. sexuality is 
certainly designed to produce offspring but that design is limited in its 
specificity. to be brief there is no arguement from nature that would indicate that 
homosexuality is somehow bad or unnaturual. it cannot become the dominant mode 
of sexual expression because it does obviously reduce the chance of its genes 
being passed on but within limits it can persist 




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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Julia Thompson
Travis Edmunds wrote:

 I urge caution Erik. For Robert drinks from this spring regularly. And
 second time around he may not be so nice to the little piggy wiggy.

Little piggy wiggy?

Please.

If Erik is a pig, he's Some Pig!

Julia

wondering how many people will miss the reference
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jim Sharkey

Julia Thompson wrote:
If Erik is a pig, he's Some Pig!

I'd even argue he's Terrific!

Jim
That was an easy one Maru

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:04:30 -0500 (EST), Jim Sharkey 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Julia Thompson wrote:
If Erik is a pig, he's Some Pig!
I'd even argue he's Terrific!

Jim
That was an easy one Maru
Aye, not much of a tangled web...

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
BULLY!

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 11:17:44PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
 
  Jeez Erik, you don't even know the guy.  Andrew's a damn good 
fellow
  and not prone to noise.  I can understand you not agreeing 
with him,
  but these knee-jerk retorts are just plain silliness on your 
part.
 
 And you don't read so well, Rob. Your S/N is also very low.
 
  I know you think you can fly under the radar forever, and perhaps
  you will, but I truly wonder how long it will be before you see 
how
  absolutely opaque you are to everyone.
 
 As long as we are being honest, Rob, you are definitely the most
 insincere sounding person on the list. I long ago stopped 
respecting
 your posted opinions after seeing all the insincere psychobabble
 nonsense you post.
 
 
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:14:34 -0600
 
 Travis Edmunds wrote:
 
   Ah, but if you have ever seen how flies cluster about the 
brimming milk
   pails on a dairy farm in early summer...
 
 All the dairy farms I've hung out on were using milking machines, 
no
 pails, no access to vast quantities of milk for the flies
 
  Julia
 
 
 But the flies always buzz around for some reason. Milk or no.

We are so very sorry, there is nothing we can do, but swat them.

Cluster flies maru

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
BULLY!

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:26:43PM -0330, Travis Edmunds wrote:
 
  First of all, let me say that after getting to know Robert a bit
  in the last few months, I think he's a pretty cool guy. In direct
  contrast to you of course; and I'm not too sure that he posts 
much
  insincere psychobabble nonsense. You on the other hand post 
SINCERE
  NONSENSE (minus the psychobabble).
 
 Well, you're half right (2/3). Again, as long as we are being 
honest,
 the posts of yours that I have read have been a waste of my time. 
Not
 surprising you and Rob would enjoy each other's babble. Although it
 is disappointing that you make so little effort to discern sense 
from
 nonsense before posting your tripe, and that you draw conclusions 
from
 such a short baseline.
 
 
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Travis Edmunds wrote:
 
  I urge caution Erik. For Robert drinks from this spring 
regularly. And
  second time around he may not be so nice to the little piggy 
wiggy.
 
 Little piggy wiggy?
 
 Please.
 
 If Erik is a pig, he's Some Pig!

Hay, I thought we were stoping the fat jokes.

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Michael Harney

From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 BULLY!

Now was this Bully! meant in the sense that you think Eric is someone who
picks on people he thinks are weaker than him, or in the sense of strong
agreement as was the expression used by President Theodore Roosevelt? :-)

Michael Harney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 09:57:03PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:

 In fact, I have had the same BMI at a time when I was woefully out of
 shape as I had a few years later when I'd gotten into the best shape
 of my life, because I'd lost as much fat weight as I had gained muscle
 weight. :)

I think you may be setting a higher standard for yourself than just
health risks. Which is fine, but note that there is a range of body fat
to muscle that is acceptable from a health risk standpoint. Even if you
replaced some of your muscle with fat, you may not have significantly
increased your health risks. As long as your BMI is between 18.5 and
25, and your waist is less than 35 inches in circumference (female, 40
male), it is unlikely that you have obesity-related health risks. Only
exceptionally sedentary and/or elderly people (i.e., extremely low
muscle mass) pass the BMI and waist criteria and still have health risks
due to body-fat.

Of course, 30 minutes of exercise a day is almost always good for your
health, no matter what your BMI.

Here is a good article from the NIH about overweight and obesity
assessment and treatment:

  http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/prctgd_b.pdf


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:07:10 -0600
At 04:05 PM 2/27/04, Travis Edmunds wrote:

Biology taking precedence over society. And take some solace in the fact 
that we can't escape biology.


Isn't that essentially the same answer some are giving about SSM (and SS 
activity in general)?



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RE: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 03:38:32PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:

 You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now.  Maybe I shouldn't
 be, but I am.

Funny, the comment didn't even register on me. Most of it is because I
don't pay a lot of attention to Jane's posts anyway since the S/N is so
low, but also, what a ludicrous thing for a person who has never met
me to write.
 
Erik, I am a little confused. On the one hand you are persuasively arguing
the case for an enlightened and socially progressive approach to SSM.
 
Then on the other hand, you are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow  sub-optimal
to be a women. Do you really think women are somehow less than men, and that
suggesting someone is a bit girlie is actually an insult?
 
The fat thing was uncalled for, I agree, and I confess, its kinda amusing to watch
you two poke your tounges at each other, but I would rather read yours and Jans
thoughts on something a little more intellectual. You both seem to have something
to offer.
 
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:18:11AM +1100, Andrew Paul wrote:

 Erik, I am a little confused.

I agree.



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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Baker
Andrew said:
 
 You are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow sub-optimal to be a
 women.

Actually, he isn't. He's calling Jan Jane because Jan keeps calling
Erik by variants of his name with additional or alternative letters.

Rich
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RE: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 12:18:11AM +1100, Andrew Paul wrote:

 Erik, I am a little confused.

I agree.

Well, thats what happens when people don't explain themselves properly.
It was a fairly simple question.
 
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RE: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Richard Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Andrew said:

 You are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow sub-optimal to be a
 women.

Actually, he isn't. He's calling Jan Jane because Jan keeps calling
Erik by variants of his name with additional or alternative letters.

Yes, quite possibly, I wasn't supporting eithers behaviour, I was more
interested in why Erik choose that particular form of attempted humiliation.
Seems at odds with some of his other positions on things.
 
Anyway, no matter, they do go on like a pair of old women don't they !
 
Andrew (Hypocrite Class)
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:41:40AM +1100, Andrew Paul wrote:

 Anyway, no matter, they do go on like a pair of old women don't they !

You do go on like a doofus, don't you?



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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Baker
Erik said:

 You do go on like a doofus, don't you?

I don't know if Andrew does, but I know I do!

Rich
GCU Single Line Reply
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:39:22PM +, Richard Baker wrote:
 Erik said:
 
  You do go on like a doofus, don't you?
 
 I don't know if Andrew does, but I know I do!

Occasionally, everyone does I think. But your S/N is quite high. So far
as I have seen, his is very low.


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:51:02 -0500
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:39:22PM +, Richard Baker wrote:
 Erik said:

  You do go on like a doofus, don't you?

 I don't know if Andrew does, but I know I do!
Occasionally, everyone does I think. But your S/N is quite high. So far
as I have seen, his is very low.


Ah, but if you have ever seen how flies cluster about the brimming milk 
pails on a dairy farm in early summer...

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Travis Edmunds wrote:

 Ah, but if you have ever seen how flies cluster about the brimming milk
 pails on a dairy farm in early summer...

All the dairy farms I've hung out on were using milking machines, no
pails, no access to vast quantities of milk for the flies

Julia

and there were at least 2 different ones I can recall offhand
(but my mother-in-law grew up with milk pails on her family's dairy
farm)
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:13 AM 2/28/04, Travis Edmunds wrote:

From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:07:10 -0600
At 04:05 PM 2/27/04, Travis Edmunds wrote:

Biology taking precedence over society. And take some solace in the fact 
that we can't escape biology.
Isn't that essentially the same answer some are giving about SSM (and SS 
activity in general)?

Insert Tab A Into Slot B Maru

-- Ronn!  :)
Hey! Call me stupid, but I'm not following you Ron...


Their argument being that biology dictates that you are born with either 
tab A or slot B.*  Biology designed tab A to fit into slot B, and 
biology didn't design two tab As or two slot Bs to fit together, 
therefore that takes precedence over everything else, or, IOW, those who 
engage in SS activity are trying to escape biology by attempting to fit 
parts together which were not designed by biology to fit together.

(*Ignoring the relatively small number born with something not clearly 
identifiable as either a tab or a slot.)

Euphemisms 'R' Us Maru

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need


 Andrew said:

  You are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow sub-optimal to be a
  women.

 Actually, he isn't. He's calling Jan Jane because Jan keeps
calling
 Erik by variants of his name with additional or alternative letters.


Those two have a real alternate lifestyle going of late.


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Transnomites Maru
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-28 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need


 On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:39:22PM +, Richard Baker wrote:
  Erik said:
 
   You do go on like a doofus, don't you?
 
  I don't know if Andrew does, but I know I do!

 Occasionally, everyone does I think. But your S/N is quite high. So
far
 as I have seen, his is very low.


Andrew?

Jeez Erik, you don't even know the guy.
Andrew's a damn good fellow and not prone to noise.
I can understand you not agreeing with him, but these knee-jerk
retorts are just plain silliness on your part.

I know you think you can fly under the radar forever, and perhaps you
will, but I truly wonder how long it will be before you see how
absolutely opaque you are to everyone.

xponent
Rob Is A Insert Putdown Here Maru
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:05:47 -0600
Is Erik leaving the group?
Will other people complain?
Will the penguins and the antelope join with the elephants and the
aardvarks in opposition to the gay marriage amendment?
The answers to these questions and more,
on tomorrows episode of
The Edge Of Dawn.


xponent
All Your Soap Are Ours Maru
rob
lol That was hilarious!!!

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jan Coffey wrote:
 Oh yes thank you for reminding me, I had almost forgotten all 
about 
 you Erick.
 Come to mention it I also forot these words: bully, adipose, 
 corpulent, fleshy, gross, heavy, obese, overblown, overweight, 
 porcine, portly, pursy, stout, upholstered, weighty,  beefy, 
bulky, 
 chunky, dumpy, full-bodied, heavyset, squat, stocky, stubby, 
thick, 
 thickset; paunchy, potbellied; brawny, burly, husky, ass, damfool, 
 donkey, imbecile, jackass, jerk, nincompoop, ninny, tomfool, 
ament, 
 cretin, dullard, dullhead, dumbbell, dummy, ignoramus, moron, 
 simpleton, stupid, ...rubber ...glue.
 
 IMO, your original post a lot more interesting than Erik's attempt 
 at a pithy dismissal.  Generally, that kind of response just makes
 me roll my eyes at how impressed he is with his own intellect, and 
 I thought your little definitions were amusing and described most 
of 
 the typical Internet argument tactics I see a lot of pretty well. 

Thank you. My core group of friends have a tendency to take word 
creation to a new level. I admit, mine are generaly the least 
amussing. My favorite I have heard recently is Stupiphany. Think 
Kelso on That 70s Show. 

 However, while I enjoy unpacking my adjectives as much, if not 
more, than the next guy, I have to say, Jan, that falling back on fat 
 jokes is not the best way to gain the sympathy of, well, anybody 
with
 two synapses capable firing in concert.

That sound like a double standard Jim. It's ok to raz someone else 
about there mind, but not their body? I was taking Erich's raz in 
stride (hence the Thank you for reminding me of you 
 rubber..glue buisness. 

However, you would think that if it's ok to raz someone claiming that 
they look pathetic becouse of something they did, why is it not ok to 
raz them back about looking pathetic becouse of something they did 
not do? (Namely get enough exercice for their caloric intake) Or if 
you prefer soemthing they did do, like eating too much for their 
level of physical activity. 

After all, razing is generlay done to make one's self feel better, If 
you know you may appear pathetic from time to time you might have a 
tendency to acuse others of looking pathetic, if you know you make 
typographical blunders you may find humor in the same mistakes others 
make. 

Personaly I find that razing others about something I am myself 
guilty of, simply looks hypocritical, and besides it never ends up 
making me feel any better. I always just end up feeling worse about 
myself. Erich obviously doesn't agree with this, but since I do, that 
left me nothing to raz Erich back about other than the way he treats 
his body. After all, if you only follow like tit for like tat when 
someone is using pasive agressivness, or logical inacuracies you 
always just end up in a frustraiting cycle and tipicaly you both look 
like idiots. On the other hand if you simply swipe back on a topic 
that the other is self concious about they tend to shut their trap, 
and move on. This seems to me in most cases to be the fastest way to 
end the whole mess without beeing walked all over. One's got to keep 
their personal dignity after all.

I'm sorry if you take this personaly. Maybe being self concious about 
your fat index is why. However, someone else who is self concious 
about appearing pathetic may have taken Erich's raz personaly as well.

Personaly I would have prefered no personal attacks at all, but if 
someone else is going to play dirty and without rules, well, that's 
just it then isn't it, no rules, no rules





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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote:

 However, you would think that if it's ok to raz someone claiming that
 they look pathetic becouse of something they did, why is it not ok to
 raz them back about looking pathetic becouse of something they did
 not do? (Namely get enough exercice for their caloric intake) Or if
 you prefer soemthing they did do, like eating too much for their
 level of physical activity.

You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now.  Maybe I shouldn't
be, but I am.

And it's not just the caloric intake and activity level -- my body is
*trying* to hang on to a chunk of the extra weight I gained while I was
pregnant, and will not probably not start dropping it until the babies
are 9 months old or so, if what happened after my first pregnancy is any
indication.  (This is related to the fact that I'm breastfeeding the
babies, which is a lot better for them in the long run, and was better
for *me* at least initially.)  And, dammit, I'm still hungry a lot --
hungry for stuff with the right nutrients to be making more milk for
them.  (At least I'm refraining from eating if I'm not hungry, and that
is a luxury I didn't have 6 months ago.)

And while a number of people who are overweight just have been eating
too much, there are those with medical conditions that are contributing
to their obesity, and some of that is just out of their control.  You're
not being fair to *them* -- after all, they didn't choose their
condition, not the way someone chooses to do something stupid.  (And I
didn't choose to have twins, although I knew there was a reasonable risk
of my having twins, so there's a point to which that *is* my own fault. 
But my genes aren't something I had any control over.)

Julia

Size 16 jeans, hoping to get down to 12 before the year is up, and down
to 8 sometime next year
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 03:38:32PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:

 You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now.  Maybe I shouldn't
 be, but I am.

Funny, the comment didn't even register on me. Most of it is because I
don't pay a lot of attention to Jane's posts anyway since the S/N is so
low, but also, what a ludicrous thing for a person who has never met
me to write. Incidentally, my BMI is 22 kg/m^2, which is well within
the healthy range of 20 - 25.  So the whole thing comes out of right
fieldanyway, not worth worrying about. If you're not currently
feeling quite at the level you want to be, Julia, I'm sure you'll get
there soon -- I can't imagine how hard it is to keep perfectly fit after
what your body has been through!


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:19:58 -
SNIP!!


Personaly I would have prefered no personal attacks at all, but if
someone else is going to play dirty and without rules, well, that's
just it then isn't it, no rules, no rules
Fight fire with fire...

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:38:32 -0600
Jan Coffey wrote:

 However, you would think that if it's ok to raz someone claiming that
 they look pathetic becouse of something they did, why is it not ok to
 raz them back about looking pathetic becouse of something they did
 not do? (Namely get enough exercice for their caloric intake) Or if
 you prefer soemthing they did do, like eating too much for their
 level of physical activity.
You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now.  Maybe I shouldn't
be, but I am.
And it's not just the caloric intake and activity level -- my body is
*trying* to hang on to a chunk of the extra weight I gained while I was
pregnant, and will not probably not start dropping it until the babies
are 9 months old or so, if what happened after my first pregnancy is any
indication.  (This is related to the fact that I'm breastfeeding the
babies, which is a lot better for them in the long run, and was better
for *me* at least initially.)  And, dammit, I'm still hungry a lot --
hungry for stuff with the right nutrients to be making more milk for
them.  (At least I'm refraining from eating if I'm not hungry, and that
is a luxury I didn't have 6 months ago.)
	Julia

Biology taking precedence over society. And take some solace in the fact 
that we can't escape biology.

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:05 PM 2/27/04, Travis Edmunds wrote:

From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:38:32 -0600
Jan Coffey wrote:

 However, you would think that if it's ok to raz someone claiming that
 they look pathetic becouse of something they did, why is it not ok to
 raz them back about looking pathetic becouse of something they did
 not do? (Namely get enough exercice for their caloric intake) Or if
 you prefer soemthing they did do, like eating too much for their
 level of physical activity.
You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now.  Maybe I shouldn't
be, but I am.
And it's not just the caloric intake and activity level -- my body is
*trying* to hang on to a chunk of the extra weight I gained while I was
pregnant, and will not probably not start dropping it until the babies
are 9 months old or so, if what happened after my first pregnancy is any
indication.  (This is related to the fact that I'm breastfeeding the
babies, which is a lot better for them in the long run, and was better
for *me* at least initially.)  And, dammit, I'm still hungry a lot --
hungry for stuff with the right nutrients to be making more milk for
them.  (At least I'm refraining from eating if I'm not hungry, and that
is a luxury I didn't have 6 months ago.)
Julia
Biology taking precedence over society. And take some solace in the fact 
that we can't escape biology.


Isn't that essentially the same answer some are giving about SSM (and SS 
activity in general)?



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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jan Coffey wrote:
 
  However, you would think that if it's ok to raz someone claiming 
that
  they look pathetic becouse of something they did, why is it not 
ok to
  raz them back about looking pathetic becouse of something they did
  not do? (Namely get enough exercice for their caloric intake) Or 
if
  you prefer soemthing they did do, like eating too much for their
  level of physical activity.
 
 You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now.  Maybe I 
shouldn't
 be, but I am.
 
 And it's not just the caloric intake and activity level -- my body 
is
 *trying* to hang on to a chunk of the extra weight I gained while I 
was
 pregnant, and will not probably not start dropping it until the 
babies
 are 9 months old or so, if what happened after my first pregnancy 
is any
 indication.  (This is related to the fact that I'm breastfeeding the
 babies, which is a lot better for them in the long run, and was 
better
 for *me* at least initially.)  And, dammit, I'm still hungry a lot -
-
 hungry for stuff with the right nutrients to be making more milk for
 them.  (At least I'm refraining from eating if I'm not hungry, and 
that
 is a luxury I didn't have 6 months ago.)
 
 And while a number of people who are overweight just have been 
eating
 too much, there are those with medical conditions that are 
contributing
 to their obesity, and some of that is just out of their control.  
You're
 not being fair to *them* -- after all, they didn't choose their
 condition, not the way someone chooses to do something stupid.  
(And I
 didn't choose to have twins, although I knew there was a reasonable 
risk
 of my having twins, so there's a point to which that *is* my own 
fault. 
 But my genes aren't something I had any control over.)

Julia, 

The body goes through a lot of changes to produce offspring. There is 
no reason you should be touchy about the shape 3 people's vessle is 
in after 2 leave that vessle and that vessle is still the main source 
of nurishment for them. What you have done is a butiful thing, and 
the shape you are in now is now less butiful than the thing you have 
done.

This is very differnt though. Some people do have thyroid conditions 
and the like which causes them to have more body fat than most would 
in they ate and exerciezed properly. However, this may have been the 
case in our society at one time that most obease people fit this 
discription, but I am not so sure that it is still that way.

Never the less, we are still talking about a double standard. If it 
is OK to raz someone about their use of language even though they 
have a condition which causes them definincy, then why is it not OK 
to raz someone if they have a condition which causes obesity?

No one seems at all preturbed about how our president or anyone else 
is constantly razed for using the wrong word, or a less appropriate 
word, or phrasing something in a way that is caloquial, or makeing a 
statment which is intended to express a specific concept, but which 
is phrased in a clumbsy way and allows for too much misunderstanding.

These are of course the communication dificulties experienced by 
Dyslexics and to some extent Autistics. 

Why is it that it is acceptable to make fun of these peopel, or 
worse, acuse them of beliefes they do not have, or intentions they do 
not have, to twist their intent against them for no good reason, but 
it is a horendous offence to make fun of someone who has a very high 
likelyhood of simply not caring for the only body they have.

Sorry, but this seems like a double standard, and it seems so heavily 
wieghted twards the absurd that it makes me wonder what exactly our 
society favors. 







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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 03:38:32PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
 
  You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now.  Maybe I 
shouldn't
  be, but I am.
 
 Funny, the comment didn't even register on me. Most of it is 
because I
 don't pay a lot of attention to Jane's posts anyway since the S/N 
is so
 low, but also, what a ludicrous thing for a person who has never met
 me to write. Incidentally, my BMI is 22 kg/m^2, which is well within
 the healthy range of 20 - 25. 

Wrong again E-Rich (TLN)

Two people can have the same BMI, but a different percent body fat. A 
person with adiquate muscle mass and a low percent body fat may have 
the same BMI as a person who has a lot of body fat because BMI is 
calculated using weight and height only. It also doesn't take into 
consideration body type, bone dencity etc. So someone can be fat and 
still have a BMI of normal. A naturaly skinny guy with a big head 
and a big tummy for instnace. AFAIK BMI was developed mainly for 
children and is not so usefull for those who have passed puberty.

Of course, BMI has nothing at all to do with performance, so maybe 
BMI is a good mesure for you. We simplply don't have the information 
at hand, so how could we say? 

Are you left handed or right handed E-Rich?


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote:

 Two people can have the same BMI, but a different percent body fat. A
 person with adiquate muscle mass and a low percent body fat may have
 the same BMI as a person who has a lot of body fat because BMI is
 calculated using weight and height only. 

In fact, I have had the same BMI at a time when I was woefully out of
shape as I had a few years later when I'd gotten into the best shape of
my life, because I'd lost as much fat weight as I had gained muscle
weight.  :)

Now, I haven't lost any weight in the past couple of months, but I'm
probably in slightly better shape from having bulked up some muscles
here and there, most notably in my arms.  Still have some ways to go,
though.

Julia
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Reuter
Awww, pooor Jan. Hurt his itty bitty ego when he couldn't
support absurdities with a wittle evidence wevidence. Aww.

 
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
 
  On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:46:13PM -, Jan Coffey wrote:
 
   How exactly is missrepresentation and bullying any different
 Erick?
 
  I don't usually answer questions with questions, Jane, but this is
  ridiculous. You honestly don't see the difference between using the
  force of law (i.e., making a new law) to coerce people to your will
 vs.
  writing a few emails expressing an opinion? Pathetic.
 
   We do NOT send terse, one line replies.
 
  I do. And I stopped reading hear. Goodbye! Discuss with yourself,
 'cause
  I'm done.
 
 
 Is Erik leaving the group?

Probably just the thread.

 Will other people complain?

Maybe.

 Will the penguins and the antelope join with the elephants and the
 aardvarks in opposition to the gay marriage amendment?

Dunno about the antelope and elephants.  Penguins are sensitive to my
needs.  :)

 The answers to these questions and more,
 on tomorrows episode of
 The Edge Of Dawn.
 
 xponent
 All Your Soap Are Ours Maru
 rob

All your soap are belong to us?

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 02:04:49PM -, iaamoac wrote:
 
 IAAMOAC to you too Mac.

I'm certainly not a member of YOUR civilization. Now, if I started a
constitutional amendment to stop you from marrying certain women that I
don't approve of, then maybe I would be in your ballpark...


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 02:04:49PM -, iaamoac wrote:
  
  IAAMOAC to you too Mac.
 
 I'm certainly not a member of YOUR civilization.

Which is, of course, exactly what David Brin meant by that.

JDG

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:04:38PM -, iaamoac wrote:

 Which is, of course, exactly what David Brin meant by that.

I don't think it means what you think it means. It certainly doesn't
give you the right to go around forcing your will on others.


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:04:38PM -, iaamoac wrote:
 
  Which is, of course, exactly what David Brin meant by that.
 
 I don't think it means what you think it means. It certainly doesn't
 give you the right to go around forcing your will on others.

How exactly is missrepresentation and bullying any different Erick?
I am not a list admin, but here is a little reminder none the less.

We do NOT send terse, one line replies. 

If our reply is more appropriately directed only at the original 
poster, we don't send it to the entire list. 

Personal attacks, whether direct or indirect are not welcome. These 
should be handled off list, and if you disagree with some 
controversial point, direct the attack at the argument, not the 
person. 

Abusive or inflammatory language is not welcome. 

Having a little rant, or making a little fun is one thing, but you 
seem to have become abusive.


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:46:13PM -, Jan Coffey wrote:

 How exactly is missrepresentation and bullying any different Erick?

I don't usually answer questions with questions, Jane, but this is
ridiculous. You honestly don't see the difference between using the
force of law (i.e., making a new law) to coerce people to your will vs.
writing a few emails expressing an opinion? Pathetic.

 We do NOT send terse, one line replies.

I do. And I stopped reading hear. Goodbye! Discuss with yourself, 'cause
I'm done.

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote:
 
 On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:04:38PM -, iaamoac wrote:
 
  Which is, of course, exactly what David Brin meant by that.
 
 I don't think it means what you think it means. 

Inconceivable!

Julia
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Jim Sharkey

Jan Coffey wrote:
Oh yes thank you for reminding me, I had almost forgotten all about 
you Erick.
Come to mention it I also forot these words: bully, adipose, 
corpulent, fleshy, gross, heavy, obese, overblown, overweight, 
porcine, portly, pursy, stout, upholstered, weighty,  beefy, bulky, 
chunky, dumpy, full-bodied, heavyset, squat, stocky, stubby, thick, 
thickset; paunchy, potbellied; brawny, burly, husky, ass, damfool, 
donkey, imbecile, jackass, jerk, nincompoop, ninny, tomfool, ament, 
cretin, dullard, dullhead, dumbbell, dummy, ignoramus, moron, 
simpleton, stupid, ...rubber ...glue.

IMO, your original post a lot more interesting than Erik's attempt 
at a pithy dismissal.  Generally, that kind of response just makes
me roll my eyes at how impressed he is with his own intellect, and 
I thought your little definitions were amusing and described most of 
the typical Internet argument tactics I see a lot of pretty well. 

However, while I enjoy unpacking my adjectives as much, if not more, than the next 
guy, I have to say, Jan, that falling back on fat 
jokes is not the best way to gain the sympathy of, well, anybody with
two synapses capable firing in concert.

Jim
Could afford to hit the gym more himself Maru

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Jim Sharkey

Julia Thompson wrote:
Inconceivable!

You made the classic Internet blunder!  The first is never get 
involved in a flame war on Brin-L, but only slightly less well known
is never show off your vocabulary when a bunch of know-it-alls are online!  :)

Jim
Amusing people for fun but no profit since 1967 Maru

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote:

 However, while I enjoy unpacking my adjectives as much, if not more,
 than the next guy, I have to say, Jan, that falling back on fat
 jokes is not the best way to gain the sympathy of, well, anybody with
 two synapses capable firing in concert.

Hm.  Anyone who's been to a few SF cons should know that that can be a
really touchy subject in fandom, as well.

Julia

who could stand to shed some, but the body is probably going to cling to
it for a few more months of the breastfeeding
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Seeberger wrote:

 xponent
 All Your Soap Are Ours Maru
 rob
All your soap are belong to us?
Somebody set up us the bath.

Move Zest for great justice!

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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:09:26 -0500 (EST)
Julia Thompson wrote:
Inconceivable!
You made the classic Internet blunder!  The first is never get
involved in a flame war on Brin-L, but only slightly less well known
is never show off your vocabulary when a bunch of know-it-alls are online!  
:)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..HA...HA.HA *THUD*

Jon
GSV Hilarious
Jim
Amusing people for fun but no profit since 1967 Maru
Wallace Shawn is the best. :)
J
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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need


 On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:46:13PM -, Jan Coffey wrote:

  How exactly is missrepresentation and bullying any different
Erick?

 I don't usually answer questions with questions, Jane, but this is
 ridiculous. You honestly don't see the difference between using the
 force of law (i.e., making a new law) to coerce people to your will
vs.
 writing a few emails expressing an opinion? Pathetic.

  We do NOT send terse, one line replies.

 I do. And I stopped reading hear. Goodbye! Discuss with yourself,
'cause
 I'm done.


Is Erik leaving the group?
Will other people complain?
Will the penguins and the antelope join with the elephants and the
aardvarks in opposition to the gay marriage amendment?

The answers to these questions and more,
on tomorrows episode of
The Edge Of Dawn.



xponent
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rob


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Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-25 Thread Jan Coffey
Oh yes thank you for reminding me, I had almost forgotten all about 
you Erick.

Come to mention it I also forot these words: bully, adipose, 
corpulent, fleshy, gross, heavy, obese, overblown, overweight, 
porcine, portly, pursy, stout, upholstered, weighty,  beefy, bulky, 
chunky, dumpy, full-bodied, heavyset, squat, stocky, stubby, thick, 
thickset; paunchy, potbellied; brawny, burly, husky, ass, damfool, 
donkey, imbecile, jackass, jerk, nincompoop, ninny, tomfool, ament, 
cretin, dullard, dullhead, dumbbell, dummy, ignoramus, moron, 
simpleton, stupid, ...rubber ...glue.
  
and.. thesaurus

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You forgot pathetic
 
 
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