Re: [ccp4bb] ctruncate bug?

2013-06-20 Thread Randy Read
Hi, The intensity-based likelihood refinement target was in our paper in 1996 (http://www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk/Personal/randy/pubs/li0224r.pdf). It's perfectly happy with negative net intensities. Basically, the question you're asking with a negative net intensity is what is the

Re: [ccp4bb] ctruncate bug?

2013-06-20 Thread Randy Read
RoadE-mail: rj...@cam.ac.uk Cambridge CB2 0XY, U.K. www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk On 20 Jun 2013, at 22:18, Douglas Theobald dtheob...@brandeis.edu wrote: On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Randy Read rj

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser 2.5.2 in ccp4 6.3.0 does not output Hendrickson Lattman coefficients

2013-07-03 Thread Randy Read
this feature extremely useful? Best wishes, Randy Read On 2 Jul 2013, at 18:41, Petr Leiman petr.lei...@epfl.ch wrote: I have just found out that phaser v. 2.5.2 in ccp4 6.3.0-021 does not output columns with HL coefficients. I cannot find a combination of buttons in CCP4i GUI to enable

Re: [ccp4bb] Output of Phaser

2013-07-31 Thread Randy Read
(corresponding to the LLG after placing the second component. I hope that helps! There's also an explanation on our Phaser Wiki: http://www.phaser.cimr.cam.ac.uk/index.php/Molecular_Replacement#Annotation, which gets into some even more obscure aspects of this annotation line. Randy Read

Re: [ccp4bb] Output of Phaser

2013-07-31 Thread Randy Read
, and I am sorry for not making it clear at the begining. Thank you so much! Sincerely, Chen On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Randy Read rj...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Dear Chen, For each component that is placed, Phaser reports the Z-scores for the rotation function (RFZ) and translation

Re: [ccp4bb] Stereo monitors for use with Pymol and Coot

2013-09-09 Thread Randy Read
Hi Alice, I've got an LG DM2352D-PZ passive stereo monitor, which seems to be comparable to the Zalman and works under the Zalman setting in coot and ccp4mg on my Mac. I've been happy with it, at least since I worked out some video settings (very different from the defaults) that made it

Re: [ccp4bb] examples of applied struct bio?

2013-09-16 Thread Randy Read
Hi Frank, How long of an incubation period between structure, insight and application are you willing to accept? Here are a few possibilities, leaning towards longer incubation times. 1. Structure of DNA - necessary for understanding of replication, translation, sequencing, etc: contributed

Re: [ccp4bb] Docking models into low-res SAD map

2013-09-20 Thread Randy Read
much luck -- probably I've been doing something wrong! The next time I have a problem like this, I'll have to try Situs colores, which I hadn't heard about until this discussion. Best wishes, Randy Read On 19 Sep 2013, at 16:03, Pete Meyer pame...@mcw.edu wrote: Another vote for Situs colores

Re: [ccp4bb] A case of perfect pseudomerehedral twinning?

2013-10-16 Thread Randy Read
) and then use either pointless or xtriage to see if those Fcalcs obey higher symmetry. Another good approach is to use the zanuda program in the CCP4 suite, which is designed to answer questions about pseudosymmetry and other related problems. Good luck! Randy Read - Randy J. Read

Re: [ccp4bb] [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement using low sequence identity templates

2013-10-21 Thread Randy Read
Hi Eleanor, Yes, the initial LLG scores in Phaser are highly dependent on the assigned sequence identity, which is translated into an initial estimate of the effective RMSD of the model. However, the latest versions of Phaser refine the RMSD estimate at the end of the job and, assuming that

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB structure validation

2013-10-31 Thread Randy Read
sometime in the new year once they're confident that it is stable. The motivation is exactly as you say: to save time for both the depositors and the annotators, and to improve the quality of the deposited structures! Best wishes, Randy Read On 31 Oct 2013, at 15:25, Debasish Chattopadhyay debas

Re: [ccp4bb] Weird MR result

2013-11-15 Thread Randy Read
in one search, Phaser should have accounted for the tNCS implied by the Patterson peak. Best wishes, Randy Read - Randy J. Read Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute for Medical ResearchTel: +44 1223 336500 Wellcome Trust/MRC Building

Re: [ccp4bb] Orientation of molecules

2013-11-22 Thread Randy Read
Chain Here, and then it just moves the original copy of that chain to the new symmetry position. Once you've adjusted all the chains to what you want, you just save the model. No more need for emacs or grep or even vi! Regards, Randy Read On 21 Nov 2013, at 18:24, Phil Jeffrey pjeff

Re: [ccp4bb] How it could be possible?

2013-12-02 Thread Randy Read
for in the same job by clicking the Add another search button. I hope that answers the question you were asking! Best wishes, Randy Read On 2 Dec 2013, at 04:11, Prem Prakash prem...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, The density obtained after molecular replacement using phaser at 2.5 Angstrom

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question

2013-12-05 Thread Randy Read
Hi Fred, Send me the logfiles (off-line), because this shouldn't be happening and I'd like to have a look. That said, we've been seeing some similar problems in certain circumstances, i.e. B-factor refinement refines to significant negative B-factor values, and data at high resolution have

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question

2013-12-06 Thread Randy Read
/index.php/Molecular_Replacement#Annotation. Best wishes, Randy Read On 5 Dec 2013, at 08:36, vellieux frederic.velli...@ibs.fr wrote: Hiyya all, I have a question about the latest Phaser output, concerning TFZ = and TFZ == . I do not know how to interpret outputs of the type TFZ = 5.2

Re: [ccp4bb] rotation peak number in new version phaser

2013-12-06 Thread Randy Read
like: PURGE ROT ENABLE ON PURGE ROT PERCENT 50.0 I've just tested and this works for me. Let me know if you're still having trouble with this. Best wishes, Randy Read On 5 Dec 2013, at 10:11, LISA science...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, I try to solve the crystal structures of a mult

Re: [ccp4bb] How degenerate keyword in Phaser can be used?

2013-12-09 Thread Randy Read
files where they were still mentioned, but the documentation has just now been updated. Best wishes, Randy Read On 9 Dec 2013, at 09:20, Rojan Shrestha ro...@riken.jp wrote: Hello, Can somebody tell me how the Phaser degenerate function can be used with MR_BTF? My script is as follows

Re: [ccp4bb] twinning fun

2014-01-29 Thread Randy Read
separated by the same translation). If there's higher order tNCS, then this works less well in the current version. We give some examples in the paper describing the algorithm: http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2013/02/00/dz5268/dz5268.pdf. Best wishes, Randy Read On 29 Jan 2014, at 13:30

Re: [ccp4bb] Scripting error running Phaser_EP/HYSS?

2014-01-30 Thread Randy Read
option to find sites or run HySS separately and provide the substructure PDB file to the pipeline. Thanks for reporting the problem! Best wishes, Randy Read On 29 Jan 2014, at 17:33, Roger Rowlett rrowl...@colgate.edu wrote: Is there a scripting error in ccp4-6.4.0/share/ccp4i/scripts

Re: [ccp4bb] 2 ligands/monomer

2014-03-04 Thread Randy Read
Hi, Another example is the Shiga-like toxin B-subunit pentamer (i.e. the cell-surface binding component of this A-B toxin), which binds 3 Gb3 trisaccharides per monomer: http://pdbe.org/1bos http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9485303 Best wishes, Randy Read On 4 Mar 2014, at 10:41, Derek

Re: [ccp4bb] version incompatibility between phaser 2.5.6 and current ccp4i?

2014-04-24 Thread Randy Read
by ccp4i and the commands expected by the installed executable, for any CCP4 program, this would be a good place to look. Best wishes, Randy Read On 21 Apr 2014, at 00:19, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu wrote: I seem to have a version incompatibility between phaser 2.5.6 and the current ccp4

Re: [ccp4bb] stalled refinement after MR solution

2014-05-08 Thread Randy Read
if something doesn’t work as expected. Best wishes, Randy Read - Randy J. Read Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute for Medical ResearchTel: +44 1223 336500 Wellcome Trust/MRC Building Fax: +44 1223 336827 Hills Road

Re: [ccp4bb] Difficult MR with MBP fusion protein

2014-05-16 Thread Randy Read
of the model, and possibly the quality of the model for the target protein. Best wishes, Randy Read On 16 May 2014, at 16:03, Niu Tou niutou2...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Recently we collected some data of a MBP fusion protein, at around 4A resolution. The protein itself is about half of the MBP

Re: [ccp4bb] [ccp4bb] map manipulation questions

2014-05-20 Thread Randy Read
programs easier to use. Best wishes, Randy Read On 20 May 2014, at 14:52, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu wrote: But, if you convert to structure factors and recalculate the map in a different cell, the features will be stretched to fill the cell, which I take it is the original problem

Re: [ccp4bb] odd phaser failure

2014-05-20 Thread Randy Read
Hi, I guess Airlie only replied to Eleanor off-line. This is a problem that Isabel Uson had already reported to us. It’s fixed in the current version of Phaser, which is in the pipeline to be released through the CCP4 update mechanism. Best wishes, Randy Read On 20 May 2014, at 16:53, jie

Re: [ccp4bb] [ccp4bb] phaser issue MR

2014-06-03 Thread Randy Read
and translated. If you look at that file, you’ll see that it doesn’t contain the ENSEMBLE definitions, so those still have to be provided in the script that refers to the .sol file. Best wishes, Randy Read - Randy J. Read Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute

Re: [ccp4bb] CNS MR Help

2014-06-13 Thread Randy Read
experimental phasing. Best wishes, Randy Read On 12 Jun 2014, at 20:14, Appu kumar appu.kum...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I have tried MR in Phaser, MRage, Molrep , Mrbump but i am not getting the true solution which it supposed to be. Although the resoution of data

Re: [ccp4bb] packing test PHASER

2014-06-17 Thread Randy Read
I agree that looking at the packing is a good idea, but I also agree that having the wrong space group is a likely possible explanation. That’s the most common scenario when there are many clashing solutions with high TFZ scores. Randy Read On 17 Jun 2014, at 15:52, Roger Rowlett rrowl

Re: [ccp4bb] New PDB validation reports

2014-07-14 Thread Randy Read
in a similar way. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2631636/) Some indication of completeness probably would be a good thing to include in the validation reports. Best wishes, Randy Read On 10 Jul 2014, at 20:26, Katherine Sippel katherine.sip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've

Re: [ccp4bb] wwPDB and CCDC

2012-04-13 Thread Randy Read
Hi Paul, What you might be remembering is the following paragraph from our Validation Task Force report: The Cambridge Crystallographic Data Centre (CCDC) has recently entered into collaboration with the wwPDB partners. As part of the agreement, wwPDB will have access to Mogul, which will be

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-19 Thread Randy Read
map. If so, then you should try Molrep from the current CCP4 or a newer version of Phaser (recent Phenix release, or upcoming CCP4 release). Regards, Randy Read On 19 Apr 2012, at 07:20, LISA wrote: Hi all, I am trying to solve one structure by molecular replacement with phaser in CCP4

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Supplying PDB file to reviewers

2012-04-19 Thread Randy Read
, Michael Rossmann wrote a program years ago that will extract coordinates from a stereo pair, and I'm sure one could do much better with multiple images. Regards, Randy Read On 19 Apr 2012, at 15:09, Antony Oliver wrote: This subject raised (and keeps raising) its head above the parapet not all

Re: [ccp4bb] Suggestions for solving a structure with 8-10 copies per asymmetric unit

2012-05-01 Thread Randy Read
where the identical side chains are left intact, and other residues are trimmed at most to the gamma atom. We're always interested in feedback, so if there are still cases where Phaser rejects good solutions we'd like to hear about them! Regards, Randy Read On 1 May 2012, at 00:18, Ho Leung Ng

Re: [ccp4bb] llg is negative in phaser

2012-06-19 Thread Randy Read
of the estimated RMSD at the end of the automated search, so the negative LLG should become positive or, at worst, zero. Best wishes, Randy Read On 19 Jun 2012, at 09:43, LISA wrote: Hi all, does anyone solve their structure by molecular replacement with phaser with LLG 0? Thanks lisa

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac5.7 refine pesudo-translational symmetry

2012-07-31 Thread Randy Read
molecules that look better in density than others. Best wishes, Randy Read On 31 Jul 2012, at 13:11, Qixu Cai wrote: It's a P212121 dataset. I have used phaser to find four solution in ASU. This is the phaser log file: PEUDO

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser with MR------search ensemble

2012-08-15 Thread Randy Read
, and this works for me. Good luck! Randy Read = On 15 Aug 2012, at 10:07, Eleanor Dodson wrote: The ensemble should be a set of coordinates Eleanor On 15 Aug 2012, at 04:42, 李华 wrote: Dear ccp4er, I try to use Phaser MR to solve a structure. A mtz file from oasis was used as a ensemble

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser and space groups

2012-08-20 Thread Randy Read
prematurely, but now waits until the choice is unambiguous), so there shouldn't be a real incentive to submitting separate jobs for the possible space groups. Thanks for reporting it, and sorry for the trouble! Randy Read On 20 Aug 2012, at 16:06, Jan Abendroth wrote: Hi all, we have been

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] poorly diffracting and twinned trigonal crystal

2012-09-07 Thread Randy Read
. One way to do this manually is to check whether the Fcalcs from the MR solution have higher symmetry, but I think the Zanuda server is doing that kind of thing automatically. Best wishes, Randy Read Begin forwarded message: From: Randy Read rj...@cam.ac.uk Date: 7 September 2012 09:10:19

Re: [ccp4bb] How to output water molecules with Phaser?

2012-10-02 Thread Randy Read
latest version of Phaser is a bit more clever. One side effect is that Se-Met residues were left out of the models, but now Phaser recognises the codes of some modified amino acids and carries them along. Best wishes, Randy Read On 2 Oct 2012, at 15:32, Koji Yonekura wrote: Hi all, I am

Re: [ccp4bb] How to output water molecules with Phaser?

2012-10-02 Thread Randy Read
replacement search? Or are they temporarily put aside and them simply added to the PDB in frame with the molecular replacement solution (but are not part of the weighted structure factors output in the final mtz)? F On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Randy Read rj...@cam.ac.uk wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] PNAS on fraud

2012-10-18 Thread Randy Read
As much fun as it is to bash Nature, Science and Cell, the evidence that they publish poorer quality structures doesn't actually hold up well. Gerard Kleywegt (cited below) and I tried to use that supposition as the basis of a positive control for our case-controlled validation paper in Acta

Re: [ccp4bb] small proteins that do not crystallize

2012-10-25 Thread Randy Read
Dear Karolina, We had one nice example where the protein could easily be concentrated to about 50mg/mL without crystallising, at which point we realised that it would be a good project for collaborating with our NMR colleagues, i.e. the RING domain of the Kaposi's sarcoma-associated

Re: [ccp4bb] MR solution

2012-11-07 Thread Randy Read
Actually, the symmetry relating these solutions is a 2-fold around the y-axis, which is not a crystallographic operator in P41. So either this is a twinned crystal, and the two solutions relate to the two twin components, or the true symmetry is higher. What is special about the solutions

Re: [ccp4bb] wrong space group or wrong refinement strategy

2012-12-01 Thread Randy Read
is twinned, then it's probably P41 with the twinning increasing the apparent symmetry of the data. But it's important to look at all the evidence, not just the Rfree after refinement, especially as the application of a twin target always lowers Rfree. Best wishes, Randy Read - Randy J

Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo translational symmetry Problem or Wrong Spacegroup

2012-12-07 Thread Randy Read
this, there's always a potential issue with twinning. I'd be interested in seeing the logfile (off-list) for the Phaser run, which should give an indication of whether the intensity moments suggest twinning, once the statistical effect of tNCS has been accounted for. Best wishes, Randy Read

Re: [ccp4bb] NCS from electron density

2012-12-12 Thread Randy Read
Hi, The only tool I'm aware of is Tom Terwiliger's phenix.find_ncs_from_density, the operators from which can be passed onto his phenix.ncs_average program. Most programs expect you to have heavy atom sites or protein models from which the NCS can be deduced. Regards, Randy - Randy J.

Re: [ccp4bb] Boveral in SFCheck

2012-12-14 Thread Randy Read
papers are retracted. As Zhijie noticed, the paper describing 2HR0 still hasn't been retracted, along with a number of other relevant papers. Best wishes Randy Read - Randy J. Read Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute for Medical ResearchTel: +44 1223

Re: [ccp4bb] Unit Cell of Ensemble must be orthogonal

2013-01-17 Thread Randy Read
on using electron density as a model! Before Kevin's nice cmapcut program (and Tom Terwilliger's equally nice phenix.cut_out_density procedure) it was a laborious process that required a very long explanation. Best wishes, Randy Read On 17 Jan 2013, at 03:20, Wei Feng wrote: Dear all, When

Re: [ccp4bb] CASP ROLL needs your structures!

2013-01-20 Thread Randy Read
Hi, The definition of new fold at the PDB depends on how it is categorised in SCOP version 1.75, which was released in June 2009. Once the SCOP database is updated again, we'll see how many new folds were really represented by PDB entries deposited in the last few years. Randy - Randy

Re: [ccp4bb] perfect twin

2013-01-22 Thread Randy Read
group. It's worth a try, especially if the MR attempts in P6222 gave a reasonable peak for the rotation search. Best wishes, Randy Read On 22 Jan 2013, at 06:25, LISA wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know how to check a data is twin and how to detwin? My data is 3.3 A with space group P6222

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD Citation

2013-01-29 Thread Randy Read
, and their standard deviations. Best wishes, Randy Read - Randy J. Read Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute for Medical ResearchTel: +44 1223 336500 Wellcome Trust/MRC Building Fax: +44 1223 336827 Hills Road

Re: [ccp4bb] How to split a dataset with PST?

2013-02-26 Thread Randy Read
to select them. To get the reflections with greater than average intensity, you could use something like this: sftools read NCSanalysis.mtz select column NcsEps 1 write bigeps.mtz stop yes I hope that helps! Randy Read - Randy J. Read Department of Haematology, University

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfree reflections

2013-03-26 Thread Randy Read
. For cases with very small cells and limited resolution, I've sometimes wondered if we could put some of the cross-validation data back into the working set, after the model has become sufficiently good, but I've never really tested this idea. Regards, Randy Read On 26 Mar 2013, at 11:54, Ed

Re: [ccp4bb] High number of clashes with high TFZ score

2013-03-27 Thread Randy Read
if there are any hints of other explanations in the output. Best wishes, Randy Read On 27 Mar 2013, at 08:32, Rojan Shrestha ro...@riken.jp wrote: Hello, I am trying phasing using homology models with Phaser. We obtained very high TFZ scores with many clashes. The number of clashes are around

[ccp4bb] Openings for Phaser team

2007-04-16 Thread Randy Read
There are two positions available for people to join the team developing Phaser, funded by the NIH grant that supports the development of the Phenix package. (Of course, the same version of Phaser goes into CCP4 as well!) If you're interested, please look at

Re: [ccp4bb] How many reflections for Rfree?

2008-06-17 Thread Randy Read
-validated sigmaA estimation. Later on, when the model is better, you could afford to absorb some of those reflections into the working set. Now, what are the chances that such a procedure would pass through the refereeing system without raising any eyebrows? Randy Read On 17 Jun 2008

Re: [ccp4bb] Ref for B-factor Underlying Phenomenon

2008-12-11 Thread Randy Read
mean-square displacement of 1A^2 has a B- factor of about 26A^2 (8*Pi^2/3). Regards, Randy Read On 11 Dec 2008, at 09:39, Eleanor Dodson wrote: A small molecule crystallography text would give you the formulation for an ideal case. A rough guide is that a B factor of 80 is equivalent

Re: [ccp4bb] iMosflm in 6.1 under OS X

2008-12-18 Thread Randy Read
Strange ... I just updated to OS 10.5.6, and fully expected to have to reinstall X11 yet again, but I still have 2.3.1 on my machine after the update. Odd that it should be inconsistent from one machine to another. Randy Read On 17 Dec 2008, at 22:54, William G. Scott wrote: Please, we

Re: [ccp4bb] Published derivation of mFo-DFc formula?

2009-01-09 Thread Randy Read
for stimulating the discussion about this point! Regards, Randy Read On 8 Jan 2009, at 11:43, Ian Tickle wrote: All - I didn't get a single response to my posting last week (https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind0812L=CCP4BBT=0O=D X=512817322E87355F7FY=i.tickle%40astex

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser brute rotation function: how to output .rlist?

2009-02-10 Thread Randy Read
possible to explain why you're not getting one? Thanks. Randy Read On 9 Feb 2009, at 23:52, Allyn Schoeffler wrote: Hello all, We've recently installed the newest version of PHASER, and when I do a brute rotation function, I don't get an .rlist file output even though the job completes

Re: [ccp4bb] Halide soaking

2009-03-31 Thread Randy Read
) is more sensitive and convincingly finds more sites than an anomalous difference Fourier (which is not iterative). There's a tutorial on our web page with real (albeit lysozyme) data illustrating how this works. Regards, Randy Read On 31 Mar 2009, at 18:17, Ethan Merritt wrote: On Tuesday

Re: [ccp4bb] Is it possible to mutate a reversible epimerase into an inreversible one?

2010-05-18 Thread Randy Read
the transition state barrier going in one direction but not the other. Regards, Randy Read On 18 May 2010, at 08:31, Vinson LIANG wrote: Dear all, Sorry for this silly biochemistory question. Thing is that I have a reversible epimerase and I want to mutate it into an inreversible one. However, I

Re: [ccp4bb] About solvent flattening

2010-06-04 Thread Randy Read
programs to determine SigmaA values from cross-validation data), it would probably behave better, but I suspect something more basic is going wrong. Regards, Randy Read On 4 Jun 2010, at 11:09, Ian Tickle wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:28 AM, zhan...@umbc.edu wrote: I was using ccp4-6.0.2. I

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] error in running Phaser NMA mode

2010-06-25 Thread Randy Read
Forgot to also post this response to the BB. Randy Begin forwarded message: From: Randy Read rj...@cam.ac.uk Date: 25 June 2010 12:59:12 GMT+01:00 To: Yong Y Wang wang_yon...@lilly.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] error in running Phaser NMA mode Dear Yong, Sorry about that! I suspect

Re: [ccp4bb] To view the 2mFo-DFc map generated by SIGMAA

2010-08-11 Thread Randy Read
Hi Eleanor, I hate to disagree with you, even partially, but it depends on whether or not you're doing phase combination with external phases. In the usual case with just model information, SIGMAA doesn't take the absolute value of 2mFo-DFc so it can be positive or negative and goes with the

Re: [ccp4bb] Matthews Coeff.

2010-09-18 Thread Randy Read
assumption about the protein having a certain partial specific volume. Nonetheless, Phaser (and probably other programs) also reports the solvent content in the cell content analysis step, so you're free to choose the one you prefer. Regards, Randy Read On 18 Sep 2010, at 19:52, Tim Gruene

Re: [ccp4bb] diffcult MR case

2010-11-29 Thread Randy Read
that, I would suspect some sort of pseudosymmetry problem, or some other pathology with the data. Best wishes, Randy Read On 29 Nov 2010, at 13:16, xiuwen zhang wrote: Dear colleages, Currently I met problem in a MR case and hope somebody could advise me. The crystals belong to sg

Re: [ccp4bb] brute force MR

2010-12-08 Thread Randy Read
Hi, There are a number of possibilities that come to mind: 1. Use the ROTATE AROUND option of the brute-force rotation function in Phaser to generate a set of rotation angles similar to your real-space solution, then use each of these for a full translation search. 2. Use my old program

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser MR hiccup

2011-01-17 Thread Randy Read
Hi Eleanor, A bit more context about what Phaser was doing at the time might help... As a first guess, it looks like there was an odd character in a text file (PDB file?). Do you have a PDB file with funny line terminators or something like that? Regards, Randy On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:50,

Re: [ccp4bb] Low resolution MR

2011-01-20 Thread Randy Read
comes down to questions of how much information you have, which you can think about in terms of how distinctive the shape is at your resolution or even how many reflections you have. Best wishes, Randy Read On 20 Jan 2011, at 13:35, Simon Kolstoe wrote: Dear CCP4bb, I've just started on a new

Re: [ccp4bb] Let's talk pseudotranslational symmetry (or maybe it's bad data).

2011-02-10 Thread Randy Read
or a pure 2-fold (as Eleanor discussed) is more likely to be the problem. Regards, Randy Read On 9 Feb 2011, at 22:08, Jon Schuermann wrote: Just to add to Phil and Eleanor's response... I would NOT use Phaser for MR with PTS present. It doesn't handle it correctly yet, since the likelihood

Re: [ccp4bb] Density sharpening with Truncate?

2011-02-28 Thread Randy Read
you look at a map. The fact that you can define the target in terms of E-values means that, if your model and data are both good, the likelihood target can be thought of as sharpening the data anyway. Best wishes, Randy Read On 28 Feb 2011, at 09:02, Dirk Kostrewa wrote: Dear CCP4ers, I

Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-31 Thread Randy Read
Judging from some examples in the literature, if there's no density for the ligand, you publish in Nature! On 31 Mar 2011, at 14:32, Huanwang Yang wrote: If a part of sequence has no density, this part will be cut from coordinates. If the side chain of a residue is lack of density, the

Re: [ccp4bb] how to combine the experimental phase and molecular replacement phase

2011-07-13 Thread Randy Read
derivatives. Regards, Randy Read On 13 Jul 2011, at 02:08, Jiamu Du wrote: Dear All, I am now working on a low resolution phase determination (around 3.3 A with Se anomalous signal around 3.8 A). I can find the Se site and get the phase, but the density map is not so good. Some part

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser and Molrep gave different solutions

2011-07-21 Thread Randy Read
Hi, Although it's pretty much true that if TFZ8, the solution is correct, there are hard cases where a correct solution has a significantly lower TFZ score. Also, we've been finding that TFZ scores are generally lower for monoclinic space groups like P21, at least in the search for the first

Re: [ccp4bb] Another paper structure retracted

2011-08-11 Thread Randy Read
entry (3o8k) is still present, but perhaps it will become obsolete later. Regards, Randy Read On 10 Aug 2011, at 22:01, David Schuller wrote: Time to fuel up the gossip engines for the approaching weekend: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096921260800186X RETRACTED

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with deleting reflections from an mtz file

2011-08-17 Thread Randy Read
Hi Eleanor, Depends on what makes them rogues. If, say, they have very large amplitudes then you could do something like: sftools read rogue.mtz select col 1 1 write norogue.mtz end Or if it's easier to select just the rogue reflections by some combination of select commands, you can do

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser problem

2011-08-29 Thread Randy Read
Hi Amir, When this error was reported before, it turned out that the sequence file used to define the composition had the one-letter code Z (presumably for Se-Met), which Phaser-2.1.4 doesn't recognise. I'm not sure what the newer versions in CCP4 and Phenix would do with this, but at the

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser 2.3.0

2011-09-01 Thread Randy Read
Hi, Could you send me some representative logfiles (probably off-list)? This might give a hint. It must be something unusual, because we have a fairly wide range of test cases and none of them have any problems. Thanks and best wishes, Randy Read On 1 Sep 2011, at 14:58, alexander.schif

Re: [ccp4bb] No Cl- or S Anomalous Signal

2011-09-02 Thread Randy Read
in the ccp4i GUI). In this situation you don't want to look for S or Cl atoms as such, because the real part of their scattering is already accounted for well in the protein model. Best wishes, Randy Read On 1 Sep 2011, at 23:29, Jacob Keller wrote: Update: I tried more anomalous maps

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser 2.3.0 floating point exception

2011-09-06 Thread Randy Read
from a mono application (and I confess that I don't really know yet what that means). Once the problem he ran into has been defined a bit better, we can look into whether it's something we can fix on our end. Regards, Randy Read On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:25, Petr Leiman wrote: Dear Randy

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice rings... [maps and missing reflections]

2011-10-11 Thread Randy Read
If the model is really bad and sigmaA is estimated properly, then sigmaA will be close to zero so that D (sigmaA times a scale factor) will be close to zero. So in the limit of a completely useless model, the two methods of map calculation converge. Regards, Randy Read On 11 Oct 2011, at 19

Re: [ccp4bb] MR - small coiled coil, 1.65A = 1.000 solutions, all of them wrong

2011-10-17 Thread Randy Read
is that, with a long helix, there will be many nearly-correct solutions offset by partial turns. So the sequence register could be wrong. Good luck! Randy Read On 17 Oct 2011, at 18:09, Napoleão Valadares wrote: Hi there! I got crystals from some synthetic peptides I bought, they are 30

[ccp4bb] Fixed! Intermittent floating point exception in Phaser-2.3 under 64-bit Linux

2011-10-19 Thread Randy Read
. We do pretty exhaustive tests, but they don't include compiling on one architecture and testing on another, so if everyone had suffered in silence we would never have been aware of this problem! So we (and, I'm sure, other developers) really do appreciate bug reports. Best wishes, Randy Read

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser

2011-11-07 Thread Randy Read
Hi Eleanor, I think you should find it in the Additional Parameters section, second line, labelled Packing criterion. The default (chosen largely because you had been asking for something like this!) is to allow a number of clashes equal to 5% of the number of residues. Let me know if it

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-09 Thread Randy Read
simultaneous separate jobs! Regards, Randy Read On 9 Nov 2011, at 07:21, Ed Pozharski wrote: See page 3 of this http://www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk/phaser/ccp4-sw2011.pdf On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 09:22 +0900, Francois Berenger wrote: Hello, How faster is the OpenMP version of Phaser

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser problem child killed: segmentation violation in phaser

2011-12-01 Thread Randy Read
crash any more, but unfortunately, it didn't solve the structure either. The bug is fixed now for future versions of Phaser. Best wishes, Randy Read On 29 Nov 2011, at 10:11, Sita Ram Meena wrote: Hi CCP4 community. While running the Phaser in the CCP4 GUI, It was terminated and giving

Re: [ccp4bb] Failure in Phaser EP

2011-12-12 Thread Randy Read
I just realised that my reply on this issue only went to Arko, and not to the BB. I think that the problem was because of an internally out-of-synch CCP4 installation that was made available for Windows for some time. Here's my reply, which makes a similar point to David's. = As Tim

Re: [ccp4bb] Failure in Phaser EP-and a new problem!

2011-12-12 Thread Randy Read
at 8:40 PM, Randy Read rj...@cam.ac.uk wrote: I just realised that my reply on this issue only went to Arko, and not to the BB. I think that the problem was because of an internally out-of-synch CCP4 installation that was made available for Windows for some time. Here's my reply, which makes

Re: [ccp4bb] Reasoning for Rmeas or Rpim as Cutoff

2012-01-29 Thread Randy Read
Just one thing to add to that very detailed response from Ian. We've tended to use a slightly different approach to determining a sensible resolution cutoff, where we judge whether there's useful information in the highest resolution data by whether it agrees with calculated structure factors

Re: [ccp4bb] Reasoning for Rmeas or Rpim as Cutoff

2012-01-30 Thread Randy Read
relevant papers from Brunger's group) Best wishes, Randy Read On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:09, arka chakraborty wrote: Hi all, In the context of the above going discussion can anybody post links for a few relevant articles? Thanks in advance, ARKO On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Randy

Re: [ccp4bb] Reasoning for Rmeas or Rpim as Cutoff

2012-01-31 Thread Randy Read
has not become standard best practice in the 14 years since it was published? phx On 30/01/2012 09:40, Randy Read wrote: Hi, Here are a couple of links on the idea of judging resolution by a type of cross-validation with data not used in refinement: Ling et al, 1998: http

Re: [ccp4bb] Lysozyme/Xenon derivatives Phenix.

2012-02-03 Thread Randy Read
, Randy Read On 2 Feb 2012, at 16:43, Brennan Bonnet wrote: Hi all, I have a strange result using Phenix's AutoSol to look for xenon sites in lysozyme. For a few months now I have been trying to produce xenon derivatives of lysozyme using pressures in the range of 50-350psi and time ranges

Re: [ccp4bb] proper or improper ncs?

2012-02-21 Thread Randy Read
an improper rotation. On the other hand, if you combine a crystallographic symmetry operator with that transformation, you might still find that it's equivalent to a proper rotation. Regards, Randy Read On 21 Feb 2012, at 13:47, Francis E Reyes wrote: Hi all This structure has

Re: [ccp4bb] proper or improper ncs?

2012-02-21 Thread Randy Read
parallel to the axis. Regards, Randy decomp.f Description: Binary data On 21 Feb 2012, at 14:01, Randy Read wrote: Hi, I'm sure there's a way to do this in CCP4, but using some little jiffy programs I've collected over the years... That's a 133 degree rotation around an axis defined

Re: [ccp4bb] MTZ file

2012-03-01 Thread Randy Read
Hi, Just one correction to this. Phaser doesn't substitute values with the same name in an output MTZ file. To get the anisotropy corrected F and SIGF values, you have to run phaser in the separate anisotropy correction mode, and even then it appends the string _ISO to the column names and

Re: [ccp4bb] twin refinement in refmac

2012-03-02 Thread Randy Read
to say that all the refinement programs that handle twinning will do this appropriately. Regards, Randy Read On 2 Mar 2012, at 08:01, arka chakraborty wrote: Hi all, I will like to know, as a follow up of what Prof. Randy Read said, what should be done to do the refinement against

Re: [ccp4bb] Help! weird thing

2012-03-12 Thread Randy Read
website (and getting ccp4i to interpret the command phaser as phenix.phaser). Best wishes, Randy Read On 12 Mar 2012, at 16:06, Anastassis Perrakis wrote: Hi - I agree with Garib that its likely a pseudo-translation issue. I also agree with that the advice he gives is correct

Re: [ccp4bb] MR and pseudo-translationnal-symmetry

2012-03-13 Thread Randy Read
translation and reindex in a smaller cell, throwing away the weak half of the data, but I think the y-component of your translation is too far from zero for that to be a reasonable alternative. Best wishes, Randy Read On 13 Mar 2012, at 09:21, vincent Chaptal wrote: Dear ccp4, I have a case

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