As the saying goes A little dab will do ya.
Rich, your cockpit cover has torn at the back end of your boom ..the
pretty, purple piece of form you put on top of the boom end to prevent
this didn't work against the forces of nature. Hopefully, we are over
the worst of winter's weather. If
Isn't the FAA phrase for that controlled flight into terrain?
Dennis C.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Airplanes only get grounded on mountains though.
Ron
Wild Cheri
CC 30-1
STL
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I have no idea from a real world test how acetone and ATF work together as
a penetrating oil, but it does seem unlikely it works well. First off they
should not mix so they do not form a homogeneous solution. I would guess
that 100% acetone would work well to penetrate but it is not very
Damn When the PO's rocket scientists rewired my 1980 version, they
separated the panels (AC and DC) and put stud type buses on the DC side - both
for the red wires and the black. And they trimmed the wires to make a great
looking back of the panel. But.. the wires are too short to hook
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems-Common-Busbar/dp/B0091VHLW4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1426163554sr=8-2keywords=blue+sea+bus+bar
:)
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To: Joseph Scott;
Joe,
Three? Thought it was 4. More to do!
Is there an easy way to mount a bus bar to the hull? Epoxy a wood block to
it?
Joel
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List
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Also, coat all crimp connections and the connectors with TefGel prior to
Also, coat all crimp connections and the connectors with TefGel prior to
crimping and connecting.
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=546
Dennis C.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I recently learned of
Hi Joe,
Not sure what compressor you’re using, but for me Danfoss BD50 control module
was cutting out due to significant voltage drop at the compressor. Make sure
your fridge wires are good gauge. I ended up running 2x10AWG. Two 10AWG for
positive and two for return. Any by return I mean
This may help. Remember length of wire run is there and back. If wire is
in sheath, increase wire one size.
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/wiring/wiring.htm
or
http://www.marinco.com/en/services/wire-data/three-percent-voltage-drop
The first link is brought to you by your
Yes – CFIT.
CFIT was reduced when the GPWS system was developed. This is basically a depth
finder for airplanes with an alarm for rising terrain. It used radar instead of
sound to measure height. It worked great on gradually rising ground – a cliff
not so much. Now we have TAWS which uses GPS
OK, I'll try. All three products are similar when used in electrical
connections.
First, TefGel and Gardner Bender Ox Guard anti oxidation compound work
similarly from a physical standpoint. They both fill voids and are
displaced by crimping or contact leaving a thin layer on the parts. The
For starters you need 40’ or 45’ flat nylon jacklines. It is best if you can
find or make a set with Dynema line or steel wire inside the flat nylon.
On my 38 the jacklines get rigged with the eyes attached to the two 10” cleats
in the bow of the boat, then led on the deck inside of the
You might be ok using the dielectric grease on your electrical connections, but
the TefGel is certainly much better for any SS to aluminium contacts (e.g. SS
bolt into an aluminium spar). At $12 at Jamestown, it is a steal.
Marek
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Jamestown Distributors, and Teff Gel is what they use on planes.
Bill Coleman
Original message
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: 03/12/2015 9:51 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Dennis C.' capt...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List TefGel -
Nylon is not the best choice for jacklines, you want something that doesn't
stretch and lose half its strength when wet. One taut centerline jackline,
if you can rig it, the idea is to stay on the boat, not be cushioned in
your ride behind it.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
I have 10 gauge wires to/from my BD50 compressor and use a circuit breaker for
on/off with no problems. I'm considering adding a second set of 10 gauge wires
too to see how much more efficiency I get that way. Of course I won't know
until it warms up around here!
Bob
Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy
Looks like the enforcement stopped March 9th anyway. No worries.
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To: Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:20:04 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List I guess no
No sailing until April 15th? Damn!
Are we talking icebergs in the Susquehanna River? Do they expect some doofus to
have his very own “Night to Remember”?
In the northern parts of NC the Coasties are making announcements on 22Alpha
about transiting certain areas because the ice may have
Regardless of the test results, Kroil worked well for me on a number of problem
bolts on my Atomic Four, including exhaust manifold and head and in getting the
engine coupling off the shaft.
And (for reference of our Canadian listserv members) was surprisingly easy to
get close to home in
Heat will do the trick, too if you have the room to use a torch without heating
other things that shouldn’t be heated. Even a hand help map gas torch can
provide effective heat on a small stud and nut combination. If you can get it
even a little bit red it will come right off. Don’t heat it
The AC and DC should be on completely separate panels and the AC panel and
wiring should have an enclosure to prevent inadvertent contact (per ABYC). You
can always add a short length to the wire (on the DC side) so that you can
reach a terminal. I am not endorsing what a PO may have done,
That is apparently what someone did in the past. They separated the AC and DC
panels, updated them and enclosed them with boxes. The problem is they placed
the ground post for the DC circuit on the back side of the panel - almost in
the middle. Then they sized the wiring to fit. So, my 20+
[Federal Register Volume 80, Number 45 (Monday, March 9, 2015)]
[Rules and Regulations]
[Pages 12338-12341]
From the Federal Register Online via the Government Printing Office
[www.gpo.govhttp://www.gpo.gov]
[FR Doc No: 2015-05475]
While not ideal you can have a combined AC/DC panel and many manufacturers
(e.g. Blue Seas) make them as long as you (as Bob mentioned) you use a
rear cover on the AC portion (again as an example, Blue Seas makes these for
their AC panels).
Back covers are not available for all the AC
Glad I am south of the Bridge! Until April 15? Are they kidding?
Looks like South River thawed. Waiting for my creek. Hoping to get out
Sunday!
Joel
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
[Federal Register Volume 80, Number 45
Wow, it sounds like you’re on Lake Superior… :^)
http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/modis.php?region=spage=1template=subimage=t1.15070.1726.LakeSuperior.143.250m.jpg
You guys there on the Bay can now be honorary members of the Great White North
sailing club.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
Me too, but there is the little matter of being on the hard.
Gary
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From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
To: Della Barba, Joe ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List I guess no sailing this weekend
Glad I am
We still have ice on the West River but its thawing!!!
Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply
messing about in boats. --Kenneth
Dan,
The inflatable is not safety equipment. If you are going to wait for good
weather, I don't think must have a raft, but it is personal preference.
Vane Bros. in Baltimore will rent you one for $500. I'd be inclined to
rent an EPIRB. Boat US rents them, and Vane Bros. may as well. Battery
An EPIRB is nice, but a PLB is certainly good enough to get help.
As for the raft – if it were a race you would need one. The first time I did
that route our “raft” was a Dyer dinghy on the cabin top. This was in 1976
when safety was not really a thing like it is now. We would have been totally
I am sure others will way in, but nylon webbing 6000# breaking strength is
recommended by most racing bodies. Also, the strength will diminish in
proportion to uv exposure, so we stow them when not on the boat. I run them
to bow and stern cleats as others have mentioned since lack of backed pad
Sounds perfect to me.
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To: Rick Taillieu ; CnC CnC discussion list
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 17:06
Subject: Re: Stus-List Genetic Engineering
Winch grinding, mast climbing, bottom cleaning, anchor hauling ….
I had a buddy who crewed for me off-and-on who was a little fireplug of guy
(you’d want him watching your back in bar-room fight) who used climb hand over
hand up the mast (Cal 25, short mast…) while singing “I’m Simian the Sailor
Man” to the tune of the old Popeye favorite…
No prehensile tail
Safety is your call, Captain. I personally enjoy the comfort of having a real
life raft on board no matter how close to shore I am and an EPIRB is never a
bad thing if you find yourself in it or in your inflatable after having the
boat knocked out from under you. One thing to consider is the
Many thanks to all. Do you guys run line or strap, and what size?
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Like maybe an enhanced foredeck cow?
Hello Dr Moreau.
Rick Taillieu
Nemesis
'75 CC 25 #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.
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Sent: March-11-15 23:45
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Subject: Re:
Winch grinding, mast climbing, bottom cleaning, anchor hauling …. Enhanced
Foredeck Cow?
Dave
On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
Like maybe an enhanced foredeck cow?
“Hello Dr Moreau.”
Rick Taillieu
Nemesis
'75 CC 25 #371
... Enhanced Foredeck Cow?
I have always wanted a prehensile tail for doing foredeck work. More foredeck
ape than cow but you have to start somewhere.
Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 CC 43
Seattle
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How hard is it to add jellyfish genes to people?
I have heard of glowing rabbits and glowing fish made this way. I was thinking
glowing crew would be easy to keep track of at night.
Possible?
Easy to do with tools at hand or do I need to buy something?
I have a line on where to get jellyfish
The Annapolis forecast for Sunday is mid 0s and sunny, winds 13 knots, but
it will feel a lot colder than 50 with water in the mid-30s!
Joel
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Since the wind is turning to rubbing it in.. My
Since the wind is turning to rubbing it in.. My sailing club is having the
annual chili cook-off on Sat, we're spending the nite @ the boat then we be
racin' on Sunday, partly sunny, temps in the mid 60's, winds in the
teens :-)
Hang in there my Northern brethren ..
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+
I asked a friend who has done the trip a number of times and he agrees with
Tim. If your inflatable is on deck or davits and ready to go - equipped with a
ditch bag and radio - plus your personal locator - and a good radio with a high
antenna you should be OK. I would assume you have a good way
Bow cleats to toerail approximately 6' short of transom...keeps the person who
falls in next to the boat in lieu of behind the boat. Easier to retrieve
and/or hear/see for recue.
David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:02:52 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Mid 0s?
That sounds like a few days ago! More like 55 for the weekend.
Joe
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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:35 PM
To: Jean-Francois J Rivard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Kim Brown
Subject: Re: Stus-List I
Daniel — best practice would suggest using a padeye on each side deck, about
six feet forward of the transom. That way you won’t be dragged six feet aft of
the boat if you go over the side while tethered. You should also have at least
a few padeyes installed in the cockpit well; at least one
I run them from the eye for the spinnaker pole to the cleats on the cabin
top near the companionway. They eye is close enough that crew can get to
the bow without going overboard.
In the cockpit I have 6 pad-eyes - 2 below the companionway, 2 on each side
of the cockpit just above the cockpit
I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres a
good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails at the
cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.
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Daniel,
When I run with jack lines, they go inboard from the bow cleat to the stern
cleat on both sides.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/
Dan,
I would. Better safe than sorry. You never know what the Atlantic will be like
in June.
And bring a shovel. There may still be snow in Boston come June.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's
Personally, I would not consider a raft for that trip - if you are able to
plan based on weather rather than a fixed schedule, know and have
maintained your boat well and the dinghy is inflated, not rolled up in a
locker somewhere. A stop in NYC would mean coastal sailing all the way.
+1 on
Advice please. I'm taklng Pegathy from Baltimore to Boston and back in June.
I've got an 8 foot inflatable, a gps based plb (McMurdo FastFind 210), and a
new VHF with an AIS receiver. The only offshore planned is from Cape May to
Block Island. Everything else will be close to shore. Do I need
I would say a raft is an option if you have the dinghy. I would have an EPIRB.
In that area rescue is going to be pretty quick if you need it. I would also
have a waterproof handheld VHF handy so you can direct the search.
The best safety equipment you can get is the patience to await a good
Sunny and mid-80's here. Only ice in gin and tonics. Scrubbed the bottom
last weekend (year2, Slime only, Trinidad SR). Just threw a can of diesel
in. Will be sailing along the beach this weekend. Wind SSE at 12.
Kim Brown
TrustMe!!! 35-3
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“What’s that mountain goat doing up here?”
(IIRC credit to Gary Larson)
The sailing equivalent may be “is that seagull standing on something?”
Back in the 70’s I was helping deliver a CC 39 the night before a local race.
As we neared the Des Moines (south of Seattle) marina I went below to use
Bought webbing from REI.
Joel
On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Many thanks to all. Do you guys run line or strap, and what size?
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I love it. Human experimentation with no IRB forms to fill out. Lets do the
experiment. Why don’t you try eating lots of jellyfish for a few weeks and
tell us if you start glowing green? If it works, we’ll write it up for Sail
(or more likely the Journal of Irreproducible Results and put it
The Winchard LYF'SAFE JACKLINE kits are nice, if a bit pricey. The flat
grey webbing has a reflective strip woven in and the kit comes with a pair
of bulky S/S buckle of sorts with a glow in the dark cover that can be
positioned as a stopper to keep a crew member from getting too far aft.
Ken H.
I recently learned of the importance of using wires for refrigeration systems
that are 2 sizes larger than the anchor wire charts recommend--it is amazing
how the voltage drop experienced otherwise reduces the efficiency of the
fridge.
Since this is your first foray into boat wiring, use
Also be aware that ABYC standards say that a maximum of three terminals can
live on any bolt or screw terminal. I’d guess your setup probably exceeds that
by quite a bit. Dennis is right, it’s time for some proper terminal strips or
bus bars.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC
Genetic engineering?? Uh oh
KHAAN!!!
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/357/400px-khan.jpg
All the best,
Edd
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Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
NCC-1701-B
CC 37+ | City Island, NY
www.StarshipSailing.com
I have also used Micron 66 with great success for the past 6 years. Changed to
it after years with VC Offshore when was more actively racing but VC’s weekly
cleanings and wet sanding prior to launch just became annoying.
Had planned to try VIVID and bought 3 gallons as was going to be
Thanks, I bought an Isotherm 2501 which also has a BD50 compressor. I was
planning 10AWG wiring and running back to the ground bus bar. I will keep in
mind what you experienced with the main panel if I have issues although the PO
took a lot of stuff off of the main panel. Do you think you
After all the resounding endorsements of TefGel, I’ve tried to find it in my
are. And tried. And tried…. It just doesn’t seem to be available.
West Marine sells Anchor Dielectric Grease, and recommends that as an
alternative.
A local marine electronics contractor whose expertise I trust
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