Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade

2015-08-13 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
As far as I know if you have AWS and AWA you only need boat speed through the water to get TWS and TWA which is shown by True on the i60 wind. If you want to display the magnetic angle from where the wind is coming from, such as on an old ST50 multidisplay, then you need boat heading which

Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring

2015-08-13 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
We did some more testing yesterday. Batteries fully charged by solar panel would not start the engine with both buttons held down after 20 seconds of glow plugs. Started fine with start button alone. Batteries read about 12.7v and rapidly went down to 12.5 after 15 seconds of glow plugs. The

Re: Stus-List Universal 40

2015-08-13 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
And in another place: http://www.westerbeke.com/technical%20manual/200154_m30-m40-m50_technical_man.pdf Dennis C. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Here:

Stus-List Universal 40

2015-08-13 Thread John Russo via CnC-List
A friend just purchased a 1984 Bristol 38 with a Universal 40 engine and wondered if anyone could provide a wiring diagram for the engine and electrical control panel etc that he can use as a starter diagram to help trace out his wiring. I have been following the recent discussions re glow plugs

Re: Stus-List Universal 40

2015-08-13 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Here: http://l-36.com/read_pdf.php?file=manuals11/200157_M12-M50_Operator_Man.pdftitle=Universal+Diesel++M+40+Operator%27s+Manual Joel On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:53 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: A friend just purchased a 1984 Bristol 38 with a Universal 40

Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade

2015-08-13 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
If your ST60 is giving you True readings then you have boat speed through the water wired in to the Seatalk bus. I would guess you have a through hull paddle wheel connected to a Speed or TriData unit. That is all you need for the new i series, though somewhere there will be the need to convert

Stus-List plumbing...

2015-08-13 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I know this has been discussed a bit before; but I had yet another “aneurysm” to the original 1979 plastic hose coming out of my water heater while motoring last weekend; which is pushing me into some drastic measures regarding my water system. Yes, it’s all still original; stained plastic

Re: Stus-List Water pump seal replacement

2015-08-13 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
FYI, Depco Pump has lots of pump parts. http://www.depcopump.com/MarineCatalog-111/MarineCatalog111.html Dennis C. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 1:31 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Raw water pumps are all basically the same. I think it can be done on your level, take your

Stus-List Water pump seal replacement

2015-08-13 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
My Beta 28 HP diesel, circa 2001, has developed a sea water leak on the engine side/aft 'end' of the Jabasco (I think) pump which is driven directly by the engine, not by a belt. This engine has a primary coolant which is cooled by this water pump circulating sea water thru a heat exchanger.

Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring

2015-08-13 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You didn't mention a solenoid for the glo-plugs. Did i miss that? Without a solenoid for the glo-plugs (and fuel pump) then just as the second article stated (which is supported by your description of

Re: Stus-List Water pump seal replacement

2015-08-13 Thread svpegasus38
Raw water pumps are all basically the same. I think it can be done on your level, take your time and use your phones camera to document each step. When taking it apart lay the parts out in order of disassembly. Reassemble inreverse order. The parts break down is usually a good

Re: Stus-List Water pump seal replacement

2015-08-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Seems like something I would attempt. You might find a selection of sockets and an extension to be a valuable alternative to a press for getting the seals in and out. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Aug 13, 2015 2:12 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring

2015-08-13 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
As a note, the wiring diagram shows the preheat solenoid on the engine side of the harness connector. That leads me to believe it is attached to the engine and is not at the panel. Further, the hot lead to the solenoid is a #10 red wire from the hot connection on the starter solenoid. Follow

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Patrick, I have a similar system on my 35/3, but rather than having a slide stop I have a metal plate (a gate) that (sort of) allows the slides to stay in the slot while dropping to the boom. That allows me to use the horn. A rigger can make a plate that screws on and eliminates the stop. As

Re: Stus-List Yanmar Heat Exchanger

2015-08-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
If the precombustion chambers get stuck again, I pull the fuel shutoff and turn (bump) the engine over with the injectors out. It doesn't hurt to have something to cushion the chamber as it is ejected from the port. I think the aluminum sleeve is fine. I can't figure out how it would work with

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
A gate is easy to build and fit to the mast to allow the slides to go all the way down to the gooseneck. You might have to modify it a bit to fit your track. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/sailgate/sailgate.htm Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 13 August 2015 at

Re: Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds

2015-08-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Heaving to is balance between the backwards thrust of the headsail, the forward thrust of the mainsail and the rudder hard over keeping the whole thing going. You're also balancing the rotation of the boat about the keel. The headsail is trying to turn the boat off the wind and the mainsail and

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
I’m not sure even the best mainsail tracks truly allow you to drop sail on a broad reach in 25 kts anyway. I've never heard of anyone reefing on a downwind run. Fully recognizing the high cost of adding a Harken Batt car system, if one is expecting to reef in all conditions including

Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring

2015-08-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yes, but he didn't mention the existence of one. It sounds like it was removed or bypassed and the start push button power moved up stream of the glo-plug button. Josh On Aug 13, 2015 2:21 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Josh Muckley

Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade- SPX-5 with Seatalk and SeatalkNG

2015-08-13 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I am guessing the e7d is SeatalkNG but the i40 is Seatalk. At least with my SPX/5 and firmware level there was no conversion between Seatalk and SeatalkNG. The converter was easy to install, though it would have been easier if I knew I needed it and hadn't dressed and tied all the cabling first.

Stus-List Electronics Upgrade

2015-08-13 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Reluctantly I’ve yielded to the logic and will be adding both a knot meter and dedicated radar/chart plotter. Fred - The Nobeltec radar product was interesting but I couldn’t get past the dedicated wifi network (or two wifi networks) Kudos to whoever first mentioned the need for the knot

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Down wind in following seas with big waves can be a work out. I've never heard of anyone reefing on a downwind run. You must have had a lot of wind. When i sail downwind, wing and wing in big waves i always set a preventer. Most CCs don't have keels that make up a significant length of the

Re: Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds

2015-08-13 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Patrick. There is no reason to heave to when reefing (assume you’re reefing the main). Luff the main or head up so that it can luff, drop the halyard (premarked is good) and then reef with either one or two lines. No mess, no fuss, 30 seconds at most. It can also be a one person job with

Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds

2015-08-13 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
I'm splitting this out from my reefing email because that one was getting big (sorry!) and heaving to seems big enough to be a separate topic. I searched the archive but didn't find too much on what configurations people have found work best. Two questions really - - What sail config leads to a

Re: Stus-List Yanmar Heat Exchanger

2015-08-13 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Josh, Great input! Very clever idea for removing pre-combustion chamber as well. I wish I had thought of it sooner. Fair winds, Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If the precombustion chambers get stuck

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
Thanks, good tips here. I want to minimize going forward. So using the topping lift is probably not something I'm going to do. Unless that were run back to the cockpit, but that seems excessive and I'd need to add clutches. I don't mind going forward in conditions with moderate or low waves, but

Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
I have some questions on reefing. I know the basics, but want to get more advanced so that it's easy even in challenging conditions. Especially learning any handling characteristics that are specific to CC's. Difficulty reefing was the one of the few sail handling issues we had on our cruise of

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Eric Baumes via CnC-List
As mentioned above, It is a combination of apparent wind and comfort level. If you are a cruiser then I would consider heaving to then reefing the main. The boat will be relatively flat and comfortable when you work on setting the reef. I used to do this when single/short handed and it was much

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 115, Issue 53

2015-08-13 Thread Garry Cross via CnC-List
Boat's sail in the apparent wind. I don't know how an instrument could figure out the true wind and direction without knowing the boat speed. -- Forwarded message -- From: dwight veinot dwight...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Date: Thu, 13 Aug

Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade- SPX-5 with Seatalk and SeatalkNG

2015-08-13 Thread PME via CnC-List
Mike, I think I read the same Ray documentation which seemed to show that one could connect Seatalk and SeatalkNG devices via the SPX-5 controller. I installed my i40 speed system with Seatalk connector wired to the Seatalk ports on the SPX-5. It powers the i40 system, and the speed display

Re: Stus-List Stanchion support problem

2015-08-13 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Fawcetts may have the tube. If not, most riggers will. South Shore Yachts for the bracket. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:01 PM, TOM VINCENT via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Not paying attention this past Monday I hit the piling at the fuel dock with the stanchion

Stus-List Yanmar Heat Exchanger

2015-08-13 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Well, I bought a CC 37+ a few weeks ago and have been having nothing but trouble. It started with a fuel injector seal failure that allowed combustion gases to escape into the cabin. Below the injectors are pre-combustion chamber that where frozen in place requiring the cylinder head to be

Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds

2015-08-13 Thread Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
Patrick, On Pegathy, also an LF38, I have never reefed the main. I have two reef points, but I take it down, or just don't put it up. The boat sails very well under jib alone, and I reef the roller furling jib in very high winds - sailed from Martha's Vineyard to Natucket very comfortably in 40

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Kenyon and Selden sell premade sail track gates. In theory all you need to do is drill and tap a couple of holes in the mast. But the curvature of the CC mast may not be exactly the same as the curvature of the premade gate – on my 25 I had to modify the curvature slightly to make the system I

Re: Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds

2015-08-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yeah, so i guess the boat may be moving forward sorta. Assuming you get the boat stopped, then it will crab sideways. Since the crash back was started on the other tack the crabbing action often times brings the boat closer to the victim. Josh On Aug 13, 2015 9:25 PM, Josh Muckley

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
I reef hove to by preference. The boat sits pretty quietly with the main slacked off and the jib backed, no problem at all and a much easier platform to work from. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 13 August 2015 at 20:07, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Re: Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds

2015-08-13 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
A couple of random thoughts Yes, the boat is creeping forward while hove to. No need to belittle 6-8' seas with short interval - nasty enough. Short interval is far worse than much larger seas with room to spread out Sea directly behind you - much more than the 6' you saw and you'd have

Re: Stus-List Easy reefing without a mainsail slide track?

2015-08-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
ARSS. I like that. I’ve always considered it to be just good seamanship, but I’ve been accused of being excessive in my expectations of others from time to time. Rick Brass Washington, NC (ARSS = Anal Retentive Sailors Syndrome. I have a team working on developing a purple

Re: Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds

2015-08-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The boat is moving forward while hove-to I'll have to think on that one for a while. There is a man-overboard maneuver that I call a crash back. You basically turn up into the wind but don't release the headsail sheets. Once the bow is through the wind turn the wheel back all the way and lock

Re: Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds

2015-08-13 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Really, when you're hove to, you're pointing about 60 degrees off the wind and your COG is about 90 degrees to the breeze. How hard you have the main sheeted controls your angle to the breeze. I will roll most of the jib in big breeze...leaving as little as 10 or 20% out. Coming home to New

Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade

2015-08-13 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Dwight — do you also have an ST60 Speed in the system? If so (and I expect you probably do…), that’s how your wind instrument can calculate TWA and TWS. Otherwise you’re stuck with just AWA and AWS. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Aug 13,

Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring

2015-08-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
You didn't mention a solenoid for the glo-plugs. Did i miss that? Without a solenoid for the glo-plugs (and fuel pump) then just as the second article stated (which is supported by your description of the connector) the panel is providing all 24amps of current which is the choke point for the

Re: Stus-List Universal 40

2015-08-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Here is a link to the documents library for Westerbeke/Universal: http://www.westerbeke.com/pages/documentlibrary.htm You will find the wiring diagrams, parts book, operators manual, and service information as PDF downloads on this page. Also look at the model history to see the chronology

Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade

2015-08-13 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
so my old Raymarine st 60 wind instrument gives me apparent wind speed and angle and true wind speed and angle at the push of a button...I figured those measurements were close enough to accuarte to be good enough for my sailing needs...I don't think boat speed or heading or anything else is