I have wondered for a while why the 30-1 prop shaft is on the port side.
My Gori 2 blade folding has excellent bite in reverse and the prop walk
is to port. Having the shaft on port would give one the theory that the
few degrees of offset would add to pulling the stern to port.
The Goman Express
Home Hardware sells pure propylene glycol. Search for Cryo-Tek concentrated
antifreeze.
18.9 liters ( 5 US gallons ) is $135.
It may be that glycerin based antifreeze is the best choice for winterizing an
engine block
though other than in sprinkler systems it has not caught on.
Michael Brown
I have a 3Di 155% genoa which has survived three years of racing. The
previous 3Dr ( yes "r" ) lasted 6 weeks, and the replacement 3DL accumulated
$1,200 in repairs by the end of the second summer. The 3Di has had some
minor winter sail care, edges done due to lifeline or stanchion chafe. I
I have the extension pipe installed between the distributor and the
alternator belt. There is just a cap on the end that I remove to drain
the block. It is easy. The two drain plugs on the block are simple to get
to. The drain plug on the bottom of the water pump is a bit fiddly to
start back in,
My atomic 4 is raw water cooled, I have drained the engine and water pump
using the drain plugs and not used any antifreeze. That has worked in Toronto
for the last nine years.
I did experiment with a thin tube and suction pump the first year to see how
much water
was left in the block. I doubt
Thinking out of the box here.
The way the alternator is wired in and the state of charge of your battery may
be adding to the randomness of the problem.
If the output of the alternator is a heavy gauge short run directly to the
battery or the positive stud on the starter then the
battery will
> -Halyard at masthead. On the 33-2 there are three halyards available, all
> are in-masthead sheaves, parallel to each other . I currently use the
> centre one for the Genoa, and any other halyard chafes its neighbour on one
> tack.
> -Tack downhaul. There isn't one forward of the
If you are using a modern engine oil with friction modifiers it may
be partially causing the problem.
The Paragon transmission does not shift gears in the traditional sense,
it has a hub that is a permanently engaged planetary gear. For forward
a clutch plate contacts the outer ring gear and
Hi Rick,
I am not familiar with the rule of thumb for optimum whisker pole length,
though it looks like
the geometry is setting the pole at right angles to the boat, and the jib holds
a 60 degree angle
at the tack.
For light air dead run I set the jib at 90 degrees to the centerline to
If the desired effect is to have both the main and genoa projecting maximum area
going dead down wind them both sails need to be set at right angles to the wind,
which is about the same as right angle to the centerline of the boat.
Assuming a 155% LP and the foot at right angle to the boat the
If you turn the rudder it moves completely out of the way. Even with the
rudder centered my ladder
does not touch it but is close.
Check the stern from the inside. There may be stiffening strip laminated
horizontally across that
provides a good location to bolt the ladder to.
Michael Brown
The US Sailing rules reference the ISAF Equipment Rules of Sailing.
ERS defines a spinnaker pole in F.1.4 (d) (i) as:
> A spar attached to the mast spar to set a spinnaker.
Similarly a whisker pole as:
> A spar attached to the mast spar and a headsail clew.
So while the US Sailing rules do not
Hi Tom,
you can look up boat classes on the Lake Ontario PHRF website without being
a member or handicapper.
Go to:
www.phrf-lo.org
and click on "Valid Class Search" on the left hand side. Enter "C 34" in
"Class Name"
and that will display the six classes that PHRF-LO has ratings for. You
thing, and anything even slightly
off is slower").
Cheers,
Randy
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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016
I am just back from 47 hours of racing a C 30-1, the Lake Ontario 300
Scotch Bonnet course. We do the Double Handed Flying Sail class, and
carry both a symmetrical and asymmetrical spinnakers.
As usual Lake Ontario presents a wide range of sailing conditions even
over 2 days, ranging from dead
This is a quote from the USSailing "History of US PHRF Affiliated Handicaps
2016" document.
USSailing may have some data but from a quick search I did not see a summary.
PHRF racing participation is declining across the country. While there are many
factors that
have caused this decrease in
I'm curious: How many of you guys race every Wednesday night?
Started one night a week, either Tuesday in white sail or Wednesday
in flying sail, in 2000. Sailed both nights staring 2004, then bought
the boat in 2009. A couple of years ago the club offered a flying sail
start on Tuesdays
PHRF-LO lists the 30-1 draft at 5', and the shoal draft version at 4' 2".
Though the manufacture's displacement specs are usually optimistic,
the shoal draft version is claimed to be 500 or 600 pounds heavier.
I would guess that the extra weight, possibly extra waterline, is not as
much of a
Yes, there is a 2016 list.
They may be doing something different with the list this year.
This note came through in our PHRF-LO newsletter:
>From a statistical standpoint, USSailing determined that the ‘high,’ ‘low,’ &
>‘mean’
data were inadequate for establishing the most accurate PHRF rating
Hi Pat,
I was at the PHRF Lake Ontario Toronto West District meeting when the 30-2 XL
class PHRF was set in 2013. The process used was to determine comparable boats,
which was easy because the 30-2 class already was rated. There also was a custom
30-2 XL with a modified keel and rudder. It was
Does your setup look like this?
http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005
If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to locate.
I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
of the todo list yet.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1
Date:
The guidance I received is that the shaft needs to be a tight fit inside the
coupler.
The matched prop shaft and coupler set I got back from the prop company would
not slide together by hand, needed light taps from a rubber mallet. The company
said if there was much play and even a slight bit of
A prop shaft company I dealt with advised me to use steel cup point grub screws
centered in a slight dimple on the shaft.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1
Four years ago I put a new Universal M3-20B in our club launch, and new
shaft as well. Drilled pretty deep holes in the shaft for the set
A couple of questions.
1) What is the height of your boom? Pre '77 the factory standard was
pretty low, under 6' from the cockpit sole to the underside of the boom.
2) When you say "moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway"
I assume you to the stern of the companionway. Are you
I have both symm and asymm spinnakers flying from a pole. I assume
you mean to connect a guy to the spinnaker tack and pole that out.
The symm is better from 120 AWA to 180 AWA, the asymm starts to
work as well tighter than 120 AWA.
If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and
Good points.
Unfortunately the advice I have received is that testing or practicing with
expired flares is
illegal, at least in Canada. I could imagine in a sudden distress situation,
particularly including
heavy wind and waves, that a crew member that has never fired or even loaded a
shotgun
The pull out platform the settee cushions sit on can be lifted off. Under that
is an access
plate that screws off. I usually in the spring use a clean microfiber cloth and
wipe down
the tank with clean water and a little bit of bleach.
There are various chemicals you can add ( Sudbury Aqua
As a last resort, drill a hole through the center large
enough to take a hacksaw or jigsaw blade. Cut out to
the edge including into the threads at a location that
is just a bit counterclockwise from one of the original
holes. Use a punch at a low angle and hammer.
At some point I will replace my
For years. at least on Lake Ontario, the normal size of a symmetrical spinnaker
was 183%. PHRF-LO at the time allowed up to a 183% before a rating adjustment.
You may have 183% spinnakers. I have rarely measured old spinnakers and managed
to get the original dimensions within 1%.
Michael Brown
I think PHRF Lake Ontario might be setting a record for the number
of measurements submitted for a C 30-1.
When I started it was two, largest spinnaker max girth and headsail LP.
This year I made 18 measurements and submitted 13 numbers.
With a folding prop it comes out to FS: 174 and NFS: 198
The "E" measurement of the C 30-1 is 11.50'. That would be
from the stern of the mast along the boom to the edge of the main
leach when fully pulled back by the outhaul.
You may be an inch or two shorter, if so I doubt replacing the sail
just for that would make any sense.
It is hard to tell
This might be a rough starting point, the CS 30.
http://bottrell.ca/BoatDocs/CS30Polars.pdf
You could pick a few datapoints and see how close you are.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:24:38 -0600
From: Lorne Serpa
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Now that I've launched my boat and weighed my trailer empty, I conclude that
> my boat weighs ~8700 pounds with absolutely nothing aboard and empty tanks.
Thanks Randy.
I guess that is what the 30-1 weighs.
I remember some spec a while back that claimed 7900 lbs, which is what PHRF-LO
At a recent LOOR night Geoff Moore from North Sails spoke about sails and trim
for the "offshore" races. His recommendation was to have the reefing line tied
around the boom.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1
Josh
The 2007 C that we race and the 2008 C that I sail on both are just
tied around
The bearing should be snug in the cutlass. While it is hard
to describe snug once it is in you should not be able to
rotate it easily by hand.
You can cut the bearing down with a hacksaw. It might be easier
if you put a wooden dowel, plastic pipe or something in it that
prevents damaging the
I have the Gori 11.5 x 8 on Windburn, also with an Atomic 4.
My guess is that it is slightly over pitched and that 11.5 x 7.5
or 11.5 x 7 might be the optimal size.
I have not found it to be an issue since Windburn is kept light for
racing and bereft of bimini and dodger. While motor sailing,
s. How well do
you suppose a horizontal antenna would work for your VHF? :-)
Bill Bina
On 3/2/2016 9:33 AM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote:
> The splitter works well, worth the price.
>
> There are some technical challenges to consider. A VHF antenna will be
> tuned
> (
The splitter works well, worth the price.
There are some technical challenges to consider. A VHF antenna will be tuned
( some better than others ) to 157 MHz. FM is 88 - 108 MHz. The better the
VHF antenna the less FM signal strength it will pass through. The FM station
has a choice of
Hi Paul,
are you looking for:
1 - a SP ( Speed Potential ) rating for a C 34
2 - a SP for your C 34
3 - an ASP ( Adjusted Speed Potential ) for your C 34 ( possible rating
adjustment for sail size )
4 - a valid PHRF certificate, likely from PHRF-LO, so you can enter a race
This might help a
Hi Bill,
do the sport boats on Lake Erie have different FS and NFS ratings?
I have been able to race FS against a wider range of boats the last
couple of years including J/80 and Melges 20. They have a "sweet"
spot in TWS, but do not perform exceptionally at higher or lower winds.
No idea
PHRF Lake Ontario has supplied both FS and NFS ratings ( if appropriate )
for years. They use to track both FS and NFS races and analyze the results.
For 2012 season this was changed to keeping a FS SP based on race results
and using a calculated offset for NFS.
I see these two Johnson bearings:
870322100 * BIND ID: 1 1/4 OD: 1 1/2 Wall thickness:
1/16
870322101 BIRD ID: 1 1/4 OD: 1 3/4 Wall thickness: 1/8
You could try contacting a local machine shop to see if they could
turn down the "BIRD" to an OD of 1 5/8.
Some of the transmissions are oil bath, and some share the oil with the engine.
If that oil is one of the newer oils it may have friction modifiers in it which
can
be too slippery. When first going into reverse the symptom is poor power and
excess force on the "gear" shifter.
I have an atomic 4
I have wondered what the limiting factor would be when carrying too much sail
area,
and had a chance to test it out over a 5 hour sail. Part of the reason is I do
sail and
race solo so knowing what to expect is an advantage, and also Lake Ontario does
get
variable weather and sometimes poor
I have a C 30 "77" model year.
>From my HIN ZCC304531076 I would guess it is #453 laid up October 1976.
I have the sliding door and after a few years of ownership the PO dropped off
the
folding door that the PPO had removed.
At haulout, so no mast and most stuff removed the crane weighs me at
1/4" stainless steel with stainless steel mandrel pop rivets have a tensile
strength up to 2000 lbs.
http://www.crawfordproducts.com/ultragrip.htm
Even an aluminum / aluminum rivet is fairly strong at up to 890 lbs.
I doubt there is any advantage to using a rivet unless the wall thickness of
I have a Gori 2 blade 11.5 x 8 on Windburn, a 77 30-1 with an Atomic 4 (
Stevedore ).
My guess is that at 8 it is over pitched but 11.5 x 8 appears to be the
smallest standard
Gori prop size. I can get to about 6.2 kts into light weather, and can tow
another 10,000 lb
boat into waves at 5 kts.
PHRF Lake Ontario has the ToT multipliers listed in tables:
http://www.phrf-lo.org/index.php?option=com_content=category=81=198
PHRF-LO uses 566.431 and 401.431 for A and B, seems to be different from
everywhere else.
That has the effect of setting the scratch boat at 165 which is fairly high,
The trap would answer the question if the water was in fact coming in the vent
line.
If it was, it might identify the conditions that cause it.
I could imagine water splashing in a few tablespoons at a time, but not causing
an
issue until enough accumulated in the tank to get picked up. That
g working on a principle of Dorade box
(with a float?) would be required.
Marek
From: Michael Brown via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Michael Brown
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel vents
Would it help to put a fuel / water separator into the
Would it help to put a fuel / water separator into the vent line?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Diesel-Fuel-Water-Separator-Replaces-5864-002-Thread-M14-1-5-/171859797203
The simple ones have no filter elements so would not impede air flow. They
would capture water coming in.
The more
The asyms work best when they bring the AWS up and AWA forward. That is hard
to do on the typical C which neither planes or easily exceeds hull speed. It
looks
like a wild ride on the J/80s, Melges and such when they lift off and scream
downwind
in a breeze.
I raced in a very mixed fleet for
I had a Raymarine ST4000 wheel drive that worked but in some circumstances
not well. Trying to use it upwind into waves had it steering all over the
place, and
playing with the damping settings didn't solve it. At lower speeds it would
hunt a lot.
At the Toronto boat show I spoke with the
I went to 3/8 VPC for spin halyards to save weight. The knobby surface
provides good hand grip. The line locks well in the clutch.
I tried 7/16 for jib sheets and also found them a bit slippery. The other issue
is we broke the core on one line earlier this year. The core - core eye splice
was
The chart maps stiffness as heel from 1 pounds per square inch on the sails.
The three Landfalls,
LF 42 - LF 43 - LF 38, have a sail area / displacement rating of around 15. The
30-1 is 18.4, and
the 41 is 19.35. The Landfalls are stiffer due to less sail area, the 41 due
to a deep keel.
I
We used tape about 5 years ago on my C 30 stripe, but painted the star.
Some edge chipping and wear but still OK.
I found a reflective tape at an auto supplier, can't remember which one, that
ended up being the correct width. By day it is solid red, at night it reflects
red
and silver in
Don't hurt yourself laughing, PHRF-LO has the Star at 193.
That is with a -12 for no motor.
The skipper, a good friend, suggested something in the 160 range also.
Out of curiosity, when you say:
And, we race in light wind and flat water, which favors them.
is it your observation that they
Hi Joel and Mike. I won't disagree with any of your points, though I was
commenting
on what I think is a different topic. Aside from planning, surfing or
momentarily being
overpowered in a gust some boats get to a much higher percentage of hull speed
in moderate winds. I think everyone
Not including surfing or being pushed by waves I rarely get over calculated
hull speed on my 30-1.
Sometimes do it reaching on flat water with the 195% spinnaker. In one case I
did get to about 7 kts,
which leaves an impressive ditch directly behind the boat. At the same time a
Viking 22 slowly
As far as I know if you have AWS and AWA you only need boat speed through the
water
to get TWS and TWA which is shown by True on the i60 wind.
If you want to display the magnetic angle from where the wind is coming from,
such as
on an old ST50 multidisplay, then you need boat heading which
If your ST60 is giving you True readings then you have boat speed through the
water
wired in to the Seatalk bus. I would guess you have a through hull paddle wheel
connected to a Speed or TriData unit.
That is all you need for the new i series, though somewhere there will be the
need to convert
I am guessing the e7d is SeatalkNG but the i40 is Seatalk.
At least with my SPX/5 and firmware level there was no conversion between
Seatalk and SeatalkNG.
The converter was easy to install, though it would have been easier if I knew
I needed it and hadn't dressed and tied all the cabling first.
Does seem to be the case. I guess when I get too old for racing, which I hope is
not in the near future, someone else might step up to preserve the Windburn
racing heritage.
For sale, $20K in top condition racing sails, $10K in electronics, $10K in
Harken rigging.
Comes with a CC 30 in good
One thing that can cause this is when the oil is not draining back from the
head or wherever
fast enough. At higher RPM you might be pumping more oil up, and after a while
sucking
air in the pan instead of oil.
You might be able to determine if this is the case by measuring the oil level
by
and is there anyway of improving the grip with either a replacement part or
modifying the existing serrations
My ARCO 40 winches are chromed bronze. I took them to a chrome plating shop and
had them stripped and returned.
( Mayfair Plating http://mayfairplating.com )
A machine shop lightly
The brushless motors do get better battery life.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/system/m12-fuel
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/batteries-and-chargers/2510-20
I have the 18V version, was on sale at the time. Great drill. One thing I like
is the ability to slow start into aluminum or SS
I used the Duramax packing, same stuff as discussed in the pbase article.
Shaft turns easily, no heat build up and no drips at rest. It is hard to tell
what the flow rate is under power, a guess would be a drip every 2 - 5 minutes.
After a year I pulled the shaft ( easy to do on a 30 ). No wear
the center of
effort aft and has the same effect as raking the mast on a level boat...
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I think the initial tuning of about 8 of rake, usually done by hanging
a weight
I think the initial tuning of about 8 of rake, usually done by hanging
a weight on the main halyard, is a reference assuming the boat is
sitting level in the water. At least a few of the CC 30-1 I have
looked at are stern heavy, some by a couple of inches. I suspect
that will add some to the rake
That looks pretty much the same as I found on Windburn.
I used 2 white oak for two of the girders ( stringers ? ) and
1.5 for the center girder. The challenge was cutting the oak
to match the curve of the bilge, which was different on the
two sides. Further, the sides did not run parallel bow to
You could plug your specs in here and see what the recommendation is:
http://www.vicprop.com/displacement_size.php
I would have guessed a Gori 15X10 to be a little big, maybe the 14X9.5 is OK.
The 12X6 seems too small. If it cannot bite the water and stay connected
it will churn - cavitation -
I would file/grind/buff down the suspected crack to see what it is. At worst the
end is defective and you are sure. I doubt taking 1/64 or less off will make a
cracked part any worse. At best after you buff it out there is no crack and the
die does not show up you should be good.
From your
Lots of choices. If we start with
- a non-racing application
- fairly stiff mast
- no desire for forcing a pre-bend
- a small amount of rake
- a minimal gap between the mast and partners at the cabin top
then
1 - pick a starting point and block the mast heel.
2- on a windy day, say towards the
The sticky but working MHU might be repairable.
There are kits available:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Raymarine-Autohelm-ST50-Wind-Vane-Bearings-O-Rings-/390530744370
That will do the ST50 units with black ends, some of the ST60 units.
The bearings are available separately, NMB
Whale Gusher as in the foot pedal / level manual pump?
If you meant Whale Gulpher then +1 for those. When I rebuilt
the mast step I put the remote pickup at the low spot and
an electronic switch. Good so far.
Michael Brown
Windburn
CC 30-1
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 14:05:56 -0400
From: Danny
consensus opinion on how to adjust PHRF ratings to allow spin
and JAM boats to compete in a single (small) fleet
Typical it works poorly. On moderately heavy days were most boats can
get up towards hull speed and sail deep downwind the JAM boats will be
about as fast as the spin boats but will
The advantage of running wing on wing is to get the maximum sail area in
clean air. With a genoa of 155% or larger it will sit partially behind the main
downwind when broad reaching. Not as much with a 135% and smaller.
Running dead down wind in light air wing on wing works great on a 170%
As a technical reference I like how a closed forum works. Who knows, I may need
to look up the best way to clean off Marvel Mystery Oil someday.
For the mix of technical, QA, social and banter the email digest works well
for me.
I do tend to read in batches, sometimes days apart, so end up
On longer runs, say over 20', there is a lot of mechanical ( geometric ? )
purchase pulling on the jackline mid way. I use low stretch webbing, the
stuff sailmakers use for tacks and reinforcing corners. Even on a 28' run
firmly tightened down I can easily lift the midpoint 2'. I suspect on a 40'
I have no idea from a real world test how acetone and ATF work together as
a penetrating oil, but it does seem unlikely it works well. First off they
should not mix so they do not form a homogeneous solution. I would guess
that 100% acetone would work well to penetrate but it is not very
I would advise an AGM, maybe as the starting battery and for emergencies,
simply in case of a knockdown or other rare event.
My background with AGMs is from the computer industry were the are used
in Uninterruptible Power Supplies ( UPS ). Overall I was not and still am not
impressed. The high
Hi Wally.
I am interested. I have a CC 30-1 with an Atomic 4. Currently I am using a
Gori
2 blade 11.5 x 8 but would consider getting a second one as a spare.
If you get the right wave direction at the mouth of the Niagara River it can
produce
some huge standing waves. I am not sure what
The force of a couple of halyards should not be enough to elongate holes
in the mast.
When I replaced the mast step in Windburn I doubted I would get the height
exactly the same so I made up adjustable mast collar hold down clamps.
I can see the deck rises a bit when the shrouds and backstay are
Possibly Siggy's Dancer, DJ Richardson.
Dave posted under Do it yourself the
deck and chain plate overhaul he did.
Michael Brown
Windburn
CC 30-1
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:51:27 -0500
From: Andrew Burton a.burton.sai...@gmail.com
To: John Pennie j...@svpaws.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
As gasoline engines go the Atomic 4 has a flat torque curve.
There are various version of the A4 around, but the common 30 HP
variant had about 35 ft/lbs at 1000 RPM, and peaks around
43 ft/lbs. From about 1800 RPM to 3500 RPM it stayed within
about +/- 1.5 ft/lbs.
If you compare the Beta Marine
Official temp was -28C ( -18.4F ) last night. That is not the wind chill.
The house outside thermometer registered -30C ( -22F ) around midnight.
I am about 100 km north of Toronto. We may see a few days around -30F
in the winter, rarely may see something closer to -40.
Better so far compared to
Interlux has added Biolux to some of their products available in the US.
The same base product sold in Canada is not available with Biolux.
As an example Interlux Canada sells VC-17m, Interlux US sells VC-17m Extra
with Biolux.
http://www.yachtpaint.com/can/diy/products/antifouling/vc-17m.aspx
From a procedural point of view I believe the contractor has an inescapable
responsibility to inform a client of deliverables, costs and risks in a plainly
worded contract. Unless you have given clear carte blanc ro proceed with the
job the contractor has a further responsibility to advise you of
When I switched from wire/rope halyards to all rope I removed the sheaves and
machined them from a V groove to a U groove. At the same time I replaced the
bearings with new oilite bronze. After two years I pulled the sheaves again and
the bearings were noticeably worn with cracks at the edges.
That might have been the mast for Fantome, an R boat at the National Yacht Club.
http://www.fantomer18.com/
The mast was replaced in 2013 when the previous wood mast failed.
Does look good.
Michael Brown
Windburn
CC 30-1
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 11:16:16 -0500
From: Ken Rodmell
Glad your trip was yesterday.
Forecast today is for 70 km/hr winds with gusts to 100 along the shore.
Docking would have been interesting to say the least.
Michael Brown
Windburn
CC 30-1
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:12:03 +
From: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
I have user Sobstad in Barrie for standing rigging and swagged lifelines. The
work is done
at Transat Marine which is also in Barrie.
http://www.transatmarine.com/main/homepage.html
You can contact Richard Osborne as Sobstad - sobs...@bellnet.ca
Transat was originally owned by John Osborne,
Check the amount of bolt sticking out. You may need a deep
or extra deep socket. If the nut is 1 1/2 the bolt is 1 and
requires 350 ft/lbs of torque. To me that would be a 1 drive
and at least an 18 bar.
As a start I would recommend borrowing or renting the
appropriate socket, short extension and
An interesting website on quotes attributed to Darwin:
http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/six-things-darwin-never-said
Michael Brown
Windburn
CC 30-1
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:14:38 + (UTC)
From: Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net
To: OldSteveH oldste...@sympatico.ca, CNC boat owners,
Any experience with Lithium-Iron batteries?
I have a Costco group 31 deep cycle that I use for house and starting the
Atomic 4.
In reserve is a group 24 AGM that is intended to only be used to start the
engine if
the house battery dies or in an emergency to get home.
I have considered saving
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Brown via CnC-ListTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSent: Wednesday, October 01,
2014 4:00PM Subject: Re: Stus-List boatbatteries
Any experience with Lithium-Iron batteries?
I have aCostco group 31 deep cycle that I use for house
Ouch! The club here has two smaller fixed cranes and a pole cat - a used
utility truck with a
boom arm. The smallest fixed crane will do masts easily up to 30 - 32' boats.
All are available
for free with volunteers operating the pole cat.
For haul out the club hires in two large cranes. So we
You may also want to take a look at the fleets in your area and see who you
will be racing against.
If the LF38 you are interested in PHRFs in around 165 for white sail that could
put you into a
varied fleet, possibly a lot of lighter 30 - 32' that will leave you in the
dust around the cans.
Likely the same as most other clubs National Yacht Club has a membership
category
for crew. Thanks to a few skilled computer programmers at NYC there is a full
online crew
bank with skill level and preferences that automates the matches and emails
everyone.
Every spring the club runs a special
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--JonathanIndigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On Sep 11, 2014, at 13:04, Michael Brown via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
Likely the same as most other clubs National Yacht Club has a membership
category
for crew. Thanks to a few skilled computer programmers at NYC there is a full
online crew
bank
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