Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[coltrek via CnC-List]

Well,  I'm just jumping in here without knowing this whole thread,  and I don't 
want to cross Bill,  B/C I know that is like throwing raw meat in front of a 
Pit Bull - but- in 2005 when I brought my boat back to the shop for a refit, I 
was using a lot of PPG Concept.  Over the cabin paint, I applied a couple coats 
of PPG Strataclear, B/C they said it was the hardest clear coating they had. (I 
also put ground pearls into it,  which,  by the way looks fabulous) After I had 
done  the teak in cetol, I had some leftover Strataclear in the can, (no 
pearls) and I painted it on the teak around  the companionway as an experiment 
. Over the Cetol.  It still looks fantastic 12 years later. 
Bill Coleman C 39 Erie

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Date: 3/2/17  17:14  (GMT-05:00) 
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That stuff is not formulated for use on wood, or
over Cetol! Being a two-part urethane, it will also be a major
job to strip off when it fails. My thought is that it is just
asking for trouble. I looked up Chroma Clear. It is an
industrial finish that is only sold to professionals and
requires an advanced type of NIOSH respirator among other
precautions. People with any sort of respiratory issues or
asthma are warned not to get anywhere near it. Those are my
thoughts! :-)


  


On 3/2/2017 4:18 PM, T power wrote:



  
  
  
Any thoughts on this process.




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      Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish
  Recommendation?
 
  
  
Putting anything on top of
  Cetol sort of defeats its main advantage. Cetol breathes,
  which is beneficial to the wood, and maintenance is easy
  because a quick scrub with plain water and a 3M kitchen
  scrubby is all the prep work usually required to add a
  fresh coat or two when needed. The slight softness is a
  PLUS. If you top coat it, you lose all of that.and may as
  well just do labor intensive varnish without the Cetol.
Bill Bina




On 3/2/2017 9:46 AM, Chuck Saur via
  CnC-List wrote:



  Our boatyard manager (graduate of Great Lakes
School of Wooden Boatbuilding) told me Cetol should be
coated with at least 2 coats of Captain's Varnish (or
similar?).  Says Cetol finish by itself is too soft for his
liking.  Has worked great for me...


  

  

  


  


  
Chuck Saur


  

  

  

  



  



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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

My exterior teak has nothing but the occasional squirt with a hose for the
20 years or so. I used to oil it, but it wore off or turned black so quick I
gave up on it.

I finally have decided to work on it, I have one teak rail home for sanding.
I think sealing with thinned epoxy might be a good first step.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 

 

Coquina

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Anyone not finishing teak with varnish and letting it weather (oil/sealer
instead) as an alternative?  Dave

 

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



 

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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[BillBinaList via CnC-List]

That stuff is not formulated for use on wood, or over Cetol! Being a 
two-part urethane, it will also be a major job to strip off when it 
fails. My thought is that it is just asking for trouble. I looked up 
Chroma Clear. It is an industrial finish that is only sold to 
professionals and requires an advanced type of NIOSH respirator among 
other precautions. People with any sort of respiratory issues or asthma 
are warned not to get anywhere near it. Those are my thoughts! :-)




On 3/2/2017 4:18 PM, T power wrote:


Any thoughts on this process.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNz16sRdpFY=3=PLLD81Ey5nuIoof2Y9lL-sDWeorU3g7fpZ

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNz16sRdpFY=3=PLLD81Ey5nuIoof2Y9lL-sDWeorU3g7fpZ>

INTEGRITY FINISHING INC, Boat teak restoration 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNz16sRdpFY=3=PLLD81Ey5nuIoof2Y9lL-sDWeorU3g7fpZ>

www.youtube.com
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CLEAN & COMPLETE SINCE 1986" Your full service painting contractor. 
BOAT TEAK REPAIR





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Putting anything on top of Cetol sort of defeats its main advantage. 
Cetol breathes, which is beneficial to the wood, and maintenance is 
easy because a quick scrub with plain water and a 3M kitchen scrubby 
is all the prep work usually required to add a fresh coat or two when 
needed. The slight softness is a PLUS. If you top coat it, you lose 
all of that.and may as well just do labor intensive varnish without 
the Cetol.


Bill Bina


On 3/2/2017 9:46 AM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
Our boatyard manager (graduate of Great Lakes School of Wooden 
Boatbuilding) told me Cetol should be coated with at least 2 coats of 
Captain's Varnish (or similar?).  Says Cetol finish by itself is too 
soft for his liking.  Has worked great for me...

*
*
*
*
*Chuck Saur*




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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Anyone not finishing teak with varnish and letting it weather (oil/sealer 
instead) as an alternative?  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[T power via CnC-List]

Any thoughts on this process.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNz16sRdpFY=3=PLLD81Ey5nuIoof2Y9lL-sDWeorU3g7fpZ

[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mNz16sRdpFY/hqdefault.jpg]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNz16sRdpFY=3=PLLD81Ey5nuIoof2Y9lL-sDWeorU3g7fpZ>

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restoration<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNz16sRdpFY=3=PLLD81Ey5nuIoof2Y9lL-sDWeorU3g7fpZ>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?


Putting anything on top of Cetol sort of defeats its main advantage. Cetol 
breathes, which is beneficial to the wood, and maintenance is easy because a 
quick scrub with plain water and a 3M kitchen scrubby is all the prep work 
usually required to add a fresh coat or two when needed. The slight softness is 
a PLUS. If you top coat it, you lose all of that.and may as well just do labor 
intensive varnish without the Cetol.

Bill Bina

On 3/2/2017 9:46 AM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
Our boatyard manager (graduate of Great Lakes School of Wooden Boatbuilding) 
told me Cetol should be coated with at least 2 coats of Captain's Varnish (or 
similar?).  Says Cetol finish by itself is too soft for his liking.  Has worked 
great for me...


Chuck Saur

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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Putting anything on top of Cetol sort of defeats its main advantage. 
Cetol breathes, which is beneficial to the wood, and maintenance is easy 
because a quick scrub with plain water and a 3M kitchen scrubby is all 
the prep work usually required to add a fresh coat or two when needed. 
The slight softness is a PLUS. If you top coat it, you lose all of 
that.and may as well just do labor intensive varnish without the Cetol.


Bill Bina


On 3/2/2017 9:46 AM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
Our boatyard manager (graduate of Great Lakes School of Wooden 
Boatbuilding) told me Cetol should be coated with at least 2 coats of 
Captain's Varnish (or similar?).  Says Cetol finish by itself is too 
soft for his liking.  Has worked great for me...

*
*
*
*
*Chuck Saur*


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Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Our boatyard manager (graduate of Great Lakes School of Wooden
Boatbuilding) told me Cetol should be coated with at least 2 coats of
Captain's Varnish (or similar?).  Says Cetol finish by itself is too soft
for his liking.  Has worked great for me...


*Chuck Saur*

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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Yep.  I did 3 coats Cetol then 2 coats gloss the first time.  Lasted 4-5
years.  This last time I did 5 coats Cetol followed by 3 coats gloss.  I
think I'm 7 or 8 years out and going strong.  I do a maintenance coat of
gloss spring and fall.

Still get compliments on the brightwork.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:48 PM, RANDY via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Because Dennis said so, in his post yesterday :)
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
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> *To: *"cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, "andy stafford" <
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> *Cc: *"Patrick Davin" <jda...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 1, 2017 3:17:35 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?
>
> Just curious, why would you want to do 5 coats of Cetol followed by 3
> coats of Cetol Gloss?
>
> The instructions on the can recommend 3 coats followed by 1 gloss, or 2
> gloss if 1 gloss isn't satisfactory. But 8 coats is something I've only
> ever heard of for varnish, and the lower # of coats required with Cetol is
> one of its primary advantages.
>
> 4 coats on handrails last year took me quite a while, so I can't imagine
> wanting to do 8!
>
> -Patrick
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:54 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> From: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net>
>> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 18:53:08 + (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?
>> Thank you all for the responses and recommendations.
>>
>> For better or worse I've decided to go with Sikkens Cetol Natural Teak
>> followed by Sikkens Cetol Gloss; probably five coats of the former and
>> three coats of the latter initially.  Factors in my decision included
>> recommendations from this list, expected look, reported durability, price
>> (my second choice, Awlwood MA, is a comparatively expensive system),
>> and effort to use properly.  This season I will also clean up other
>> exterior teak besides the new handrails, and treat it with the same Cetol
>> treatment after cleaning.
>>
>
>
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[RANDY via CnC-List]

Because Dennis said so, in his post yesterday :) 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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Just curious, why would you want to do 5 coats of Cetol followed by 3 coats of 
Cetol Gloss? 

The instructions on the can recommend 3 coats followed by 1 gloss, or 2 gloss 
if 1 gloss isn't satisfactory. But 8 coats is something I've only ever heard of 
for varnish, and the lower # of coats required with Cetol is one of its primary 
advantages. 

4 coats on handrails last year took me quite a while, so I can't imagine 
wanting to do 8! 

-Patrick 

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From: RANDY < randy.staff...@comcast.net > 
To: cnc-list < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 18:53:08 + (UTC) 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? 
Thank you all for the responses and recommendations. 

For better or worse I've decided to go with Sikkens Cetol Natural Teak followed 
by Sikkens Cetol Gloss; probably five coats of the former and three coats of 
the latter initially. Factors in my decision included recommendations from this 
list, expected look, reported durability, price (my second choice, Awlwood MA, 
is a comparatively expensive system), and effort to use properly. This season I 
will also clean up other exterior teak besides the new handrails, and treat it 
with the same Cetol treatment after cleaning. 






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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Patrick Davin via CnC-List]

Just curious, why would you want to do 5 coats of Cetol followed by 3 coats
of Cetol Gloss?

The instructions on the can recommend 3 coats followed by 1 gloss, or 2
gloss if 1 gloss isn't satisfactory. But 8 coats is something I've only
ever heard of for varnish, and the lower # of coats required with Cetol is
one of its primary advantages.

4 coats on handrails last year took me quite a while, so I can't imagine
wanting to do 8!

-Patrick

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:54 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> From: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 18:53:08 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?
> Thank you all for the responses and recommendations.
>
> For better or worse I've decided to go with Sikkens Cetol Natural Teak
> followed by Sikkens Cetol Gloss; probably five coats of the former and
> three coats of the latter initially.  Factors in my decision included
> recommendations from this list, expected look, reported durability, price
> (my second choice, Awlwood MA, is a comparatively expensive system),
> and effort to use properly.  This season I will also clean up other
> exterior teak besides the new handrails, and treat it with the same Cetol
> treatment after cleaning.
>
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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thank you all for the responses and recommendations. 

For better or worse I've decided to go with Sikkens Cetol Natural Teak followed 
by Sikkens Cetol Gloss; probably five coats of the former and three coats of 
the latter initially. Factors in my decision included recommendations from this 
list, expected look, reported durability, price (my second choice, Awlwood MA, 
is a comparatively expensive system), and effort to use properly. This season I 
will also clean up other exterior teak besides the new handrails, and treat it 
with the same Cetol treatment after cleaning. 

I did look at the Jamestown Distributors survey results ( 
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/surveyMap.do?surveyId=102 ) 
and there was a recent positive response from a Sikkens user in my area (an 
arid, high-altitude, UV-intense environment). I also read this West Advisor 
article on wood finishes: https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Wood-Finishes, 
and read Don Casey's chapter on wood finishes, which is intensive on varnishing 
and makes only passing mention of "synthetic wood finishes" e.g. Cetol. 

The truth is that anything will look better than the old handrails, which were 
doubtless original (45 years old) and not well-maintained and breaking apart. 
The main question is how will the finish on the new handrails look, how long 
will it last, and how much effort will it take including regular maintenance. 

I put some pictures of Grenadine's new handrails at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTc093OExfMGRBX1E (the last two 
pictures in that folder). These were made by Jerrod Milton on my crew who is a 
very skilled woodworker and who has a very complete wood shop in his garage. I 
found an 11'x6"x1" teak plank for $200 at a local specialty wood store, and was 
able to non-destructively remove the old starboard handrail (pictured) to use 
as template. Jerrod ripped the plank in two lengthwise, stacked the two halves 
and pinned them together with small dowels where the cutouts would be, traced 
the pattern onto the stack from the old handrail template, cut two symmetric 
rails from the stacked half-planks at once on a band saw, then routed the edges 
on a router table and sanded the rails with a spindle sander. 

The new handrails will be nice and beefy, and we'll install them after 
finishing with stout screws pulled tight and butyl tape under the bases. 

Thanks again everyone. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "Joel Aronson" <joel.aron...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 7:12:55 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? 

Jamestown distributors has a varnish survey. Might be worth a look. 

On The Office I used Cetol Natural Teak and was generally happy with it. On 
Atlantis I started with Interlux Schooner Gold, but have switched to Epiphanes. 
I'm using the RapidClear because you can recoat every 5-6 hours without 
sanding. It takes a couple days to harden, but I'm liking it so far. 

Joel 

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 



I've done both sickens and epiphanies on two different boats. Other than the 
time between coats, I dont see the the benefit to sickens. It seemed softer and 
less deep a finish than the varnish. As far as upkeep, a couple of coats a year 
on either product seems a wash. I'd go with the varnish myself. Although, I 
didn't do this on the new handrails on my last boat, I think I might coat new 
wood with epoxy first then 7 or 8 coats of epiphanies. I did that on the new 
hatch boards of my last boat and was pleasantly surprised with the results! I 
made them out of some marine plywood I had left over from a project on a 
previous boat and I got a lot of compliments on those hatch boards! Lol 

Danny 

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Subject: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? 

Listers- 

Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation. 
Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak. I'm 
looking for a clear varnish with UV protection. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

One popular technique in the tropics is to fill and seal the grain using 
epoxy and then painting the wood with Sears Weatherbeater house paint or 
similar, of a "woody color". This holds up for a very long time under 
the unrelenting tropical sun, and since the paint will not have touched 
the wood or penetrated the grain, it can be easily undone if a future 
owner wants the varnished look (and endless labor) back.


Bill Bina


On 3/1/2017 9:20 AM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List wrote:

Randy,
I have been using Cetol for years on the Great Lakes, and so 
applied it last winter to the much neglected teak on my Florida project boat. 
One summer of southern sunshine (and one hurricane) and it needs it another 
coat. I will take a little more care this year and put more on. One thing that 
has not been mentioned is that the original orange Cetol is orange because it 
contains iron oxide as a UV protectant.

Steve Thomas
C 1980
Merritt Island, FL



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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

Randy,
   I have been using Cetol for years on the Great Lakes, and so applied 
it last winter to the much neglected teak on my Florida project boat. One 
summer of southern sunshine (and one hurricane) and it needs it another coat. I 
will take a little more care this year and put more on. One thing that has not 
been mentioned is that the original orange Cetol is orange because it contains 
iron oxide as a UV protectant.  

Steve Thomas
C 1980
Merritt Island, FL

 RANDY via CnC-List  wrote: 
Listers- 

Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation. 
Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak. I'm 
looking for a clear varnish with UV protection. 

Cheers, 
Randy 


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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Jamestown distributors has a varnish survey.  Might be worth a look.

On The Office I used Cetol Natural Teak and was generally happy with it.
On Atlantis I started with Interlux Schooner Gold, but have switched to
Epiphanes.  I'm using the RapidClear because you can recoat every 5-6 hours
without sanding.  It takes a couple days to harden, but I'm liking it so
far.

Joel

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I've done both sickens and epiphanies on two different boats.  Other than
> the time between coats, I dont see the the benefit to sickens.  It seemed
> softer and less deep a finish than the varnish.  As far as upkeep, a couple
> of coats a year on either product seems a wash.  I'd  go with the varnish
> myself.  Although,  I didn't do this on the new handrails on my last boat,
>  I think I might coat new wood with epoxy first then 7 or 8 coats of
> epiphanies.  I did that on the new hatch boards of my last boat and was
> pleasantly surprised with the results!  I made them out of some marine
> plywood I had left over from a project on a previous boat and I got a lot
> of compliments on those hatch boards!   Lol
>
> Danny
>
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>  Original message 
> From: RANDY via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 2/28/17 2:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
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> Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net>
> Subject: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?
>
> Listers-
>
> Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation.
> Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak.
> I'm looking for a clear varnish with UV protection.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I've done both sickens and epiphanies on two different boats.  Other than the 
time between coats, I dont see the the benefit to sickens.  It seemed softer 
and less deep a finish than the varnish.  As far as upkeep, a couple of coats a 
year on either product seems a wash.  I'd  go with the varnish myself.  
Although,  I didn't do this on the new handrails on my last boat,  I think I 
might coat new wood with epoxy first then 7 or 8 coats of epiphanies.  I did 
that on the new hatch boards of my last boat and was pleasantly surprised with 
the results!  I made them out of some marine plywood I had left over from a 
project on a previous boat and I got a lot of compliments on those hatch 
boards!   Lol
Danny
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: RANDY via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 2/28/17  2:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> Subject: 
Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? 
Listers-
Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation.  
Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak.  I'm 
looking for a clear varnish with UV protection.
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Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

I like Cetol, but I don't use it on my exterior teak. I'm a Semco believer. 
When I got Pegathy the exterior varnish was useless. Had to be stripped off. It 
was a Royal Paine Diaz, as Click and Clack would say. I put on two coats of 
Semco Honeytone. Had to put on a third later that year. Next year, two coats as 
well. Since then one coat a year. The teak looks great and feels like wood. 
Never have to sand or strip. If the rain has washed it off, I just put on one 
coat each spring. Application (with a foam brush ever-so-lightly dipped in the 
juice) is as easy as can be. It's very thin and flows on easily, and seals (and 
fills to some extent) the teak. Wouldn't go back to varnish unless someone put 
a gun to my head.
Dan SheerPegathy - Landfall 38Rock Creek off the Patapsco



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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I have been using Cetol for a while, same gallon can for 10 years.
It is basically an oil based teak coloured stain, completely different
from a varnish. It works well on Lake Ontario and when the exuberance
during racing requires a touch up I also like the ease of maintenance.


What is the new equivalent to the old just oil Cetol?


Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1





From: Fred Hazzard  
 
I like how easy  Cetol is to repair dings and scratches. A light feathering 
sand and apply another coat. 
 
Fred Hazzard 
S/V Fury 
Portland, Or 
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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

I like how easy  Cetol is to repair dings and scratches. A light feathering
sand and apply another coat.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
Portland, Or

On Feb 28, 2017 1:12 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
wrote:

I've been using Sikkens Cetol for years.  5 coats Cetol then 3 coats
clear.  Maintenance coat of clear every 6 months.  Seems to hold up well in
the Gulf Coast sun and heat.

BTW, don't use Cetol light.  Tried that once.  Not pleased.

However, I hear good things about Awlwood.  If I have to strip the wood and
re-apply, I might switch.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 1:53 PM, RANDY via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Listers-
>
> Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation.
> Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak.
> I'm looking for a clear varnish with UV protection.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Randy,

I’ll throw in with Awlwood MA. It’s a bit dear price-wise but I’ve found that 
it floats out well and that fewer coats are needed to achieve the same depth of 
gloss that regular varnish requires, ergo less work.

Keep in mind that it is a two-oars (first coat of Primer Clear then over-coated 
with Gloss. You only need the primer for the first coat.

I like it but of course, all my finished woodwork is covered up in my shed 
awaiting installation. Sometime in the distant future…

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 2:53 PM, RANDY via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Listers-
> 
> Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation.  
> Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak.  I'm 
> looking for a clear varnish with UV protection.
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy
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[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I've been using Sikkens Cetol for years.  5 coats Cetol then 3 coats
clear.  Maintenance coat of clear every 6 months.  Seems to hold up well in
the Gulf Coast sun and heat.

BTW, don't use Cetol light.  Tried that once.  Not pleased.

However, I hear good things about Awlwood.  If I have to strip the wood and
re-apply, I might switch.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 1:53 PM, RANDY via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Listers-
>
> Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation.
> Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak.
> I'm looking for a clear varnish with UV protection.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
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Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Gary — I’ve tried Sikkens in the past, and was less than happy with the 
results.  Last winter, I decided to try Awlwood on my handrails and Dorade 
boxes, and was very pleased with the results.  I hope to do my toerail this 
spring.  It looks like this product is going to hold up well, with a minimum of 
maintenance; and it goes on fast (two hours between coats), so you cn get a lot 
done in a day.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 28, 2017, at 1:53 PM, RANDY via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Listers-
> 
> Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation.  
> Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak.  I'm 
> looking for a clear varnish with UV protection.
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy
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[RANDY via CnC-List]

Listers- 

Grenadine's new exterior handrails are ready for finish and installation. 
Wanted to see if any of you have a preferred varnish for exterior teak. I'm 
looking for a clear varnish with UV protection. 

Cheers, 
Randy 
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