Re: "Forking is a Feature" reactions?

2010-09-15 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 13 Sep 2010, at 19:29, Ben Hyde wrote: > On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> I just can't resist the opportunity to fork this discussion: >> >> http://intertwingly.net/blog/2010/09/13/One-True-Way > > tee hee > > have we pushed the apache way pages to git hub yet? That would be

Re: "Forking is a Feature" reactions?

2010-09-16 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 15 Sep 2010, at 16:38, Torsten Curdt wrote: >>> Usually patches only get applied if committers think they are good >>> enough and worthy to apply. Not every patch gets applied no matter >>> what. >> >> And how is that dependent on the version control tool? See, it isn't. >> It's a function

Re: "Forking is a Feature" reactions?

2010-09-16 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 15 Sep 2010, at 16:50, Santiago Gala wrote: > distributed SCM along those last 5 years or so) can keep the illusion > that a technical solution (called "centralization" here) can keep an > organization together more than a set of core values can. No sorry - we are arguing (or at least I am) t

Re: Consulting rates

2010-11-08 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 8 Nov 2010, at 15:37, Rich Bowen wrote: > I've been asked to take a little consulting job, and inevitably the "what do > you charge" question came around. I have not even the vaguest idea. Can > someone give me a feel for what the ballpark is these days? (Eastern USA, if > it matters.) Hap

Re: Some Apache @FOSDEM ?

2011-01-21 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 21 Jan 2011, at 10:32, Isabel Drost wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 florent andré > wrote: > >> just to know if some of you live in / come / know the city-center of >> Belgium ? > > Arriving on Friday before FOSDEM, leaving on Monday after the > conference. Same for Ardy and me. Dw. smime.p7

Re: Government License

2014-07-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Op 2 jul. 2014, om 10:33 heeft Greg Stein het volgende geschreven: > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:24 AM, David Welton wrote: > > Closest I've seen in the 'free' area is licensing that forbids military > > uses. > > Which is, once again, neither 'free software' nor open source because > it goes ag

Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 31 Oct 2002, David Crossley wrote: > > VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read > > this mail list thru a web archive? > > [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable > > > VOTE 2: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully > > subscribe to this mai

Re: comments on the votes

2002-11-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > Ah, one personal comment, we really need a better voting system :) > > doing it by hand is boring and very time consuming :/ > > > +1 The system in ~voter (see foundation cvs) can easily be augmented. My wish list after

Re: comments on the votes

2002-11-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > I would not expect for most votes to get more than a 25-50% turnout > provided the vote is going the direction the person would like. Ken Exactly; I usually watch votes when they are conducted in public; and am more inclined to vote when they go th

Re: [discussion] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-11-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Sam Ruby wrote: > I'm planning on submitting a proposal to change the bylaws of Jakarta to Now this seems an excelent idea to address the immediate and short term issues around oversight and management. However I am not sure if this is a good idea in the long run. I fundam

Re: [discussion] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-11-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > I fundamentally believe that the HTTP PMC model is flawed in > > its current form; and simply generates another 'layer' and a > > weird birthday cake. > > oh, ah? reminds

Re: [discussion] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-11-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Can you tell me what's wrong with a PMC which is almost silent, is > composed by committers and manages just one codebase? sounds like an > ideal situation for a PMC.

Re: [discussion] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-11-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > > > And I do think it is; as a PMC of a hundred members will > > never act quicker or more focused/quick as a group of 5-10 > > people recruited out of those 100 who have a task (sa

Re: [discussion] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-11-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 4 Nov 2002, Costin Manolache wrote: > The protection of the PMC matters the most for those who actually write > code and actively participate in jakarta. Bear in mind that is -this- is the number one aim - we can do that without a PMC and simply start tracking committers better; or even wid

Re: [discussion] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-11-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > Bear in mind that is -this- is the number one aim - we can do > > that without a PMC > no, we can't. please see roy's several messages on this subject. Perhals not with our current bylaws. But that can be changed. It is a matter of how on

Re: CLA for nacho@apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Jim Jagielski / [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the right person to help you. Dw. On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Ignacio J. Ortega wrote: > Hola a todos: > > Somedays ago ( about 20 did ) i did send my Signed CLA to the FAX given > in the document itself, i've tried 2 times to get some confirmation of > the succes

Re: CLA for nacho@apache.org

2002-11-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, [ISO-8859-1] André Malo wrote: > I agree with the terms described there (of course). > IANAL, but I've some doubts that it has any legal relevance here in Germany > (since it's not translated etc.). I'd like to hear some opinions/facts > according to that topic. You are ent

Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-12-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Ben Hyde wrote: > > //www.apache.org/foundation/members.html > > I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were > hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this > example. - ben But then again - I am quite happy with the ~dirkx usage for unoff

Re: Apache Trove

2002-12-09 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Nice. Very interesting. Dw. On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Steven Noels wrote: > Hi all, > > due to the recent and upcoming reorgs in terms of the > 'federation'/project/subproject structure and the assumed increased > difficulty for people finding their way around ASF projects, I have been > playing arou

Re: [ot] domain registrars

2002-12-19 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > i have *got* to transfer my domains away from networkproblems.com. > they've become completely impossible, as opposed to just mostly. Aye - same experience here; suddenly they became a lot worse in the last 6 months. Not sure what happened.

Re: HotJava proposal on the Wiki

2002-12-22 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > >With respect to the proposal that Sun be approached to turn over HotJava to > >the ASF, do you have a suitable person at Sun to fulfill your > >"ContactAtSun - We'll need a contact at Sun in order to make this happen" > >role? Is Sun aware of the

RE: RSS feed for ApacheWiki now in beta test

2003-01-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Danny Angus wrote: > Invent a CPAN style method of satisfying Java dependancies, quick while > you're still enthusiastic And define jar-filename and a a MANIFEST standard for jar's across the ASF; including license references ;-) some level of indirection system where 'j

Re: ASF use of Instant Messaging

2003-01-15 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > On the other hand, I have repeatedly noticed that when instant messaging is > available, it has multiple benefits: I fully agree to virtually all of those. I do would like however to also add a few negative ones: It also creates a backchannel which

Re: ASF use of Instant Messaging

2003-01-15 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Daniel Rall wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > 1) People should not be any more upset about the use of IRC than they > > should if two committers on a project happen to bump into each other at > > an ApacheCon and take the opportunity to discuss a problem th

Re: [announce] Agora 1.1

2003-01-16 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Very, very nice. > http://cvs.apache.org/~stefano/agora/ My Compliments ! Dw.

Re: [announce] Agora 1.1

2003-01-16 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote: > I've just used the applet version, looking great! One question: how > about adding a zoom function? Or something like the ability to select a line and see who it points to (perhaps in a window/panel) on the side; or something which makes the line very

RE: Weblogs and Obstructionism WAS: Re: weblogs on apache.org

2003-01-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> For those of us that are not on infrastructure@, what's the summary thus > far? Is it just the obvious which can be gleaned from the above, ie Andy > proposed blog software installed on an apache.org machine and someone > -1'ed it, or was it merely a page linking to blogs? Essentially infrastru

Re: sponsoring of asf: fud or truth?

2003-01-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: > According to Steven Noels: > > > - http://www.netcrucible.com/blog/ ("The whole Apache project is > > impressive in the spirit of the pre-bubble open-source projects, but > > Apache's heavy dependence on BigCo funding (IBM, Sun, etc.) kind of > > d

Re: CLOSED: Closing the infrastructure list.

2003-01-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > He cannot take it up on community@ -- that list is closed as well. > He's not a committer. Though. But that is not an @infrastructure problem. If the community decides to have a different moderation on community@ or new mailing list with differen

RE: Wiki Administration

2003-01-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> Our project is getting value out of the Wiki, in part because we have > non-Committers feeling empowered and able to contribute directly. People can do the same with patches on mailing list; and seem less likely to abuse that. Perhaps the simple validation (and display) of a valid email address

Re: Wiki Benefits

2003-01-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > People can do the same with patches on mailing list; and seem less likely > > to abuse that. > You are concerned about abuse. I don't disagree, but the mailing lists are > also capable of being abused. No sorry; I am _NOT_ worried by abuse at al

Re: Wiki Administration

2003-01-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote: > > People can do the same with patches on mailing list; and seem less > > likely to abuse that. Perhaps the simple validation (and display) of > > a valid email address may do the trick. > > The combination of a Wiki (JSPWiki, which offers an XMLRPC inte

Re: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Joshua Slive wrote: > Sorry if this has been discussed before (I just subscribed), but I don't > understand why community@apache.org would be a closed list. We have > plenty of other places in the ASF to discuss private issues (board@, > members@, pmc@, committers@ for anno

Re: Fw: You can at least forward my comments to these secret discussions about wiki

2003-01-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote: > > > > ( Note: I'm only writing you two only because Greg, you are the Chairman of > > the Board, and Andrew, you've been a proponent of Wiki. Since I only know > > about a discussion secondhand, I can only imagine what is being discussed, > > here's my

RE: You can at least forward my comments to these secret discussions about wiki

2003-01-28 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > a friend of the court brief for the "Board vs. Wiki". > > Board vs. Wiki? That's somewhat amusing in its timing, considering that the > Chairman of the Board, as a private individual not in an official capacity, Tim: Bear in mind that in the ASF

RE: You can at.....

2003-01-29 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
No trouble. Meanwhile I've asked Andrew to get you subscribed here - but his interest are not with this list. So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy. Dw

Re: You can at.....

2003-01-29 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 28 Jan 2003, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free > > to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy. > > I wouldn't mind if you a

Re: You can at.....

2003-01-29 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote: > Related to that: _who_ is able to request access for invited parties? AFAIK Anyone on this list. Or at least that was the consensus after 150Mbyte or more of dicussion on open and closedness :-) Dw.

Re: Where are we?

2003-01-30 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > I got coordinates from one of the sources listed on the website that you > pointed to, but when I then reverse-lookedup the coordinates, it put me > somewhere near Pittsburgh. Where's a good place to get (correct) > coordinates? > US people often forget

Wiki - we have a problem :)

2003-01-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Folks, I am seeing this weeking discussion reaching conclusions of sorts. However there is still a significant problem with oversight. What I mean here is -not- the ASF cultural thing of having things validated by your peers; but the oversight of the type that the ASF as a US incorperated is sup

RE: Wiki - we have a problem :)

2003-01-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > for violations of the above content rules. That group, for now, > > could be a sub-group under the auspices of the infrastructure PMC. > > I'd rather not see the infrastructure committee (or any subset > thereof) have to make the determiniation

RE: Wiki - we have a problem :)

2003-01-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Mechanism > > I believe that this relates to your overriding NOW concern, and it would > help to have some sort of accountability mechanism that is anaolgous to the > mailing lists. I'm personally neutral on this issue, but if you believe > that it is a threat to the corporation, th

RE: Wiki - we have a problem :)

2003-01-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > I agree. But the message, as posted, didn't deal with improper content. Correct. Though I can *well* understand PMC's which clearly keep the message within their own Scope. As that gives a very fair and clear policing guideline. > The issue it rai

RE: Wiki - we have a problem :)

2003-01-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > -> is a PMC or similar body who duly provides oversight > >to any abuse. > > This is a weaker oversight requirement than ensuring that information is > accurate, or that more subtle content concerns are managed. Correct - I am after wh

Re: Wiki - we have a problem :)

2003-01-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Costin Manolache wrote: > Are we now going to have similar "oversight" over the mailing lists and > archives ? If someone posts a pointer to warez or porn on one of the lists > - are we going to have to remove it from archives ? We have, in my opinion, sufficient oversight

RE: Wiki - we've got a proposed solution - hierarchy

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > The three WikiAdmins are neither official nor representatives of a proper > oversight body. The most logical group would be those who are responsible > for the site module, and I don't believe that they want it. Well - the PMC's could each voluntee

Re: How get on the map!

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Ben Hyde wrote: > I've moved the map here: > > http://cvs.apache.org/~bhyde/map.jpg Ben - could you also put the harversted lat/lon list there ? I'd like to slap a WMS (Open GIS Web Mapping Server) interface over it - so one can doe things like zoom in; or change the b

Re: How get on the map!

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote: > > slap a WMS (Open GIS Web Mapping Server) interface over it - so one can > > doe things like zoom in; or change the background, add roads, etc. > > Oh that would be neat! nearly done :-) Dw. --

WMS fun and games (Was: where are we)

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
There is a WMS (OpenGIS Web Mapping Server) available at http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/ or in older GIS packages http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/?Request=GetCapabilities For those who do not have ArcInfo or other GIS tools; see http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/as

WMS(Hint)

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
By the way; with fetches like http://demo.asemantics.com//wms/asf/?request=GetMap&styles=default&layers=comloc&bbox=-180.0,-90.0,180.0,90.0&SRS=EPSG:4326&TRANSPARENT=TRUE&width=738&height=369&format=image/png&version=1.1 you can simply fetch (part of) the world, as a jpeg/gif/png, trans

Re: How get on the map!

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map1.html Very nice. Is there any way we could combine this with WMS - so we can offer zoom/panning with ease. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: How get on the map!

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > I'm not a GIS expert at all, and I'm not sure if I understand. I'm > currently downloading the jar you pointed us to, to know more. Essentially the url demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf?request=GetCapabilities gives you metadata - in there you find that you

Re: How get on the map!

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > We should probably need a tool to merge several images into one, I imagine. Or just clever HTML/css ? .. > I'll clean a little bit, and commit (if it is clean enough) or send a > patch with the "generate_map.pl" which generates the html file to the >

RE: Wiki - we've got a proposed solution - hierarchy

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I hope we don't tear down the current one for a bit, make sure the PMC > > owned ones are a functional replacement. > > I understand your concern about data loss, and share it. See my comment > about starting the new ones as clones of the current o

Re: How get on the map!

2003-02-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote: > I can't make maps at until I convince one of the machines in my house > to build a version of xworld with tiff and gif||png support. Well - if either Santiago or you send me a hi-rez version of that background map - then I can automate the layering with eas

Re: How get on the map!

2003-02-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote: >http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?11656 Hmm MODIS - nice; that 250/pixel at Nadir - did not know they had made such a nice cloud free mosaic. Shame you cannot download them directly. Will send Babera an email. >http://www.radcyberzine.

Re: How get on the map!

2003-02-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > http://apollo.spaceports.com/~jhasting/images/earthmaps/earthmap2k.jpg > http://apollo.spaceports.com/~jhasting These links are dead now. > http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?5826 I've asked for this one - should be no problem. > While

Re: Where to place Agora?

2003-02-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > I've received many personal comments about my little thing Agora (for > those who missed it, go to http://cvs.apache.org/~stefano/agora/) and I > have already received comments, suggestions and patches (a PHP script > that harvests NNTP newsgroups in

Re: Where to place Agora?

2003-02-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > > > I am not sure that this type of project is the right sort of thing for ASF > > wide attention and support. Research projects such as this are valuable > > playgrounds - but do not

Re: Where we are.. continued.. (moved from committers@).

2003-02-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Bill Stoddard wrote: > Pretty interesting. Marry this to some of the satellite photos Now guess who we're working for/with - and who these toys are intended for once completed: http://www.asemantics.com/presos/index.html http://www.asemantics.com/showcase/sh

RE: Where we are.. continued..

2003-02-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > http://mapper.acme.com/?lat=34.036864&long=-80.963427&scale=10&theme=Image&w > idth=3&height=2&dot=Yes > > Thank G-d for trees. :-) Try SAR instead of this 2 visible band data - you may like the results :-) Dw

Re: Site scan results

2003-02-05 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
When it tells you that a file linked to is missing; is there also a way of seeing where the reference was made ? Dw On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > It may not be as much fun as a member map, but: > http://cvs.apache.org/~noel/sites/ > > The Jakarta, XML, DB and Avalon sites didn't

RE: primary distribution location

2003-02-05 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Thank you very much for this explanation. It should help explain to authors > why we are asking them to provide their LGPL code under a different open > source license. Bear in mind that although, i.e the ASF, may be allowed to do so and distribute

Re: Where we are.. continued..

2003-02-05 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Torsten Curdt wrote: > Ted Leung wrote: > > There seems to be a bug in one of the scripts. Starting with tcurdt, the > > href's and titles in the area tags are out of sync. > > I also noticed... how to do you mean "starting with"? I am currently the > latest one who added hi

Re: Where we are.. continued..

2003-02-05 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Torsten Curdt wrote: > > Which page/image are we talking about, and in wich browser ? > > http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map.html > in all browsers;) Does the same error apply: http://demo.asemantics.com//wms-real/asf/?styles=dot&VERSION=1.1.0&REQUEST=GETMAP&WIDTH=46

Re: Where to place Agora?

2003-02-05 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote: > ps. In case your not already aware the ivory tower dudes are having a > field day with all the data in "our logs". For example this data about > power law distributions in the logs. >http://fiachra.soc.arizona.edu/blog/archives/000257.html#000257 > or m

Re: Where to place Agora?

2003-02-05 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Wild! crosscorrelation between 'virtual distance' (calculated thru > agora) and 'physical distance'... h I predict that the correlation is a stronger than linear function with the uptake of real time tools such as IRC in the community under scr

Re: cvs commit: committers/krell/wms cap.xml

2003-02-07 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
00 1.1 > +++ cap.xml 7 Feb 2003 06:44:37 - 1.2 > @@ -13,7 +13,13 @@ > xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"; > xlink:href="http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/"; > /> > - Dirk-Willem van Gulik /

Re: build systems vs. license issues [Re: Hashing it out ...]

2003-02-07 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > OTOH, one of the main problems is Sun Binary License. This license > *allows* redistribution with our products, just it does not allow > individual download. Nor would we, the ASF, like to be a 'mirror' for non ASF code. > So the problem is mainly for

Re: Power Laws, Weblogs, and Inequality (fwd)

2003-02-12 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > Heh. Familiar? :) Well known since the early '60 in general social science, antropology, reologie :-) though dating back to the last century. I guess this is hitting mainstream now. Dw --

Re: The web of trust

2003-02-14 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > that are kinda cool, and you can see them at http://apacheadmin.com/gpg/ Very cool ! Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: committers / project list

2003-02-20 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > It is rather experimental. I'm playing with it, and have not yet set up > a cron to update it hourly or so in nagoya. The map below is generated on the fly - and the coordinates are checked once every 6 hours for changes in urls.txt and every 24 hour

Re: committers / project list

2003-02-20 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > It's really great. I'll try to integrate the imagemap coordinates in it, > so that the dots are clickable and show tooltips. I think I will be able > to steal some time for it during the weekend. What I can do is have the 'getFeatureInfo' return that

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Greg Stein wrote: > To be honest, I don't know what the most effective arrangement would be. I > could easily see the infrastructure team being responsible. Each project > releases their code to www.apache.org/dist/PROJECT/, and the infrastructure > guys simply index that co

RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I thought this was for Apache only jars. Just a place for projects to > > place there "Released jars" as a compliment to the zip and qz > > distributions. So there should be no license issues. > > Well, I'm still waiting to hear about some of thi

[off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
The map on: http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) Now I've noticed quite a few fo

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > I'm about 20m (60ft) NE. But I wonder what would happen if I add another > figure to the urls.txt thing. Please try ! Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, David Reid wrote: > > 1 minute is 1 nautical mile, so 1/60 instead of 1/100 could get you there. >^^^ > Only at the equator... Or use the minutes N/South - they are more constant. Dw

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jeff Trawick wrote: > can somebody remind me of where to find the address->long/lat mapping > for the US? I'm about a mile off on the new zoom in and would like to > try adding some digits. This tool http://demo.asemantics.com/zoom.pl shows the point of click bel

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital > > terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part > > of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) > > heh heh. now to tie in t

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 26 Feb 2003, David Crossley wrote: > > http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html > I gather that you must be using some browser-specific > facilities here. I use Mozilla and the map is a mess > after the first zoom. Darn - I was quite happy as I got it to work after endless fiddling on IE

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 26 Feb 2003, David Crossley wrote: > I see people talking about co-ordinate precision of > less than 100 metres. So how are they determining > their position? Do they each have a differential GPS > in their pocket? If someone has some clever facility > to determine an accurate position, then

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > My GPS (a modern cheap Garmin eTrex), averaged during a whole night up > in my house drifted no more than 5m around. This is consistent with the > positioning in the map, now that I have entered six figures in my data. Another thing to check on your G

Re: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 26 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > So that's going to be the board deciding what is right? What project's > themselves want is not right enough? That is frightening. What happened > to project self direction/determination? I am not sure where you've got that impression from; and I hope it i

RE: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 26 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Because this is not what's happening. Sam is trying to force a > collalition because of some sense of "Rightness". We would like to be > left alone and if a natural level of cooperation emerges in time so be > it. But it shouldn't be dictated from the start

RE: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 26 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > If we compete head-on with Ant why is that a concern? No and yes - in that order. Short term, propably not; long term - seems a waste of resources; espcially if you are not competing exactly head to head but slightly diverse into different areas. Which the

Re: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> > It reminds me of a dutch expression for which I do not know the US > > equivalent - such as the trust of the host is in his guests - for so > > much can he trust his guests. Actually just found "Ill doers are ill deemers" or better perhaps "Evil dooers are evil dreaders". Not sure if it is ex

Re: can Apache distribute third party libraries?

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Leo Simons wrote: > there exists some confusion within the apache community about the > redistribution of library sources and binaries by apache. The question I took an action on the last board meeting to start making an initial list of those licenses and a procedure to keep

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution

2003-02-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > "can we link to software under license X?", > And what does 'linking' mean for languages used by the ASF, e.g. Java, > PHP, Perl, scripting languages like Javascript? Actually - in a lot of cases - that is not 'our' problem. Best we can do is ask

Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in

2003-02-27 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> That map shows only one person in Australia...how are the people > determined? cvs co committers more krell/FAQ vi urls.txt cvs commit.. Done. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] F

Re: Wiki - we have a problem :)

2003-02-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Costin Manolache wrote: > My point was: if someone posts a mail with pointers to warez or porn or > spam - it will get through and will be archived in the mailing list Then it -will- be noted by the committers and the PMC in a very timely manner; no (resonable) doubt abou

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> I'm in a "just do it" kind of mood. +1 Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> Guys, does this have much to do with 'community' anymore? From what > I've read, it looks like a Java specific project. Actually - if done well - it could also be used to resolve APR dependencies; or even (auth) module dependencies. I.e. be able to do ./configure --with-module=mod_aut

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> I think in general ./ or ./index.html should return a human readable > form and ./index.xml should give machine readable form of the following Or use the Accept-type: as a selector. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL P

RE: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > >Guys, does this have much to do with 'community' anymore? From what > > >I've read, it looks like a Java specific project. For the record - this is something which affects *all* committers and the whole apache community - so community@ seems as g

RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-03-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> How much should be encoded in a URI, and how much in data associated with > the URI? You seem to be trying to encode all of the data into the URI > naming space. Why not have a single URI for the target, and then trigger > behavior based upon the content? That would seem more extensible and l

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> But a build script (or an aggregator) could ask for specific formats, > like "application/rss+xml" to get a feed with updated packages ;-) Ah - now it gets interesting - so I could let my trusty (jabber enabled) agent sit lurking an RSS feed, be able to poll my servers and notify my real-live j

RE: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> But IE doesn't specify a preference for HTML over XML, or any other text/* > type. As I understand the specification, that would require the server to > also use the user-agent for mapping, right? Depends on the client; if it was asking for x-application/asf-distro then it'd be a whole new se

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-03 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> Just for the record, my quick unscientific poll shows that the license > consumes approximately 6.7M in the httpd-2.0 distribution. But I suspect > that compresses well! ;-) Try - last time I did this it accounted for a 0.8% increase in file size of the distribution (I think that was xerces-c+

Re: OT Help, VAX BASISplus

2003-03-26 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Danny Angus wrote: > Hi, > > I'm asking an OT question here 'cos I know that there are a lot of brains and > experience here and I've pretty much drawn a blank elsewhere. > > I wondered if anyone could help me with the structure of a BASISplus > thesaurus, what do all the

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