On Jan 31, 2010, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system
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Subject: Re: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
Link? Second time I've asked you to back up an assertion...you
ignored the
first time, got a link this time? How about we agree that even if
this did
happen, at
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:47 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:30 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I was not reacting to anything that Apple did or did not do. I was
querying you about why you were telling someone that wanting to have a
USB port is a symptom of
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:21 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 30, 2010, at 5:30 PM, David K Watson wrote:
While price was probably an issue, I don't myself think that it was
the main one in Apple's decision to keep the physical interfaces
to a minimum. Apple likes to promote itself
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:40 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:46 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
However, and while this does not
negate the previous sentence, most computer buyers still prefer to
use, by a wide margin, computers that run under Windows as opposed to
To me, for someone to choose implies that they are reasonably informed
about the options. I believe that great masses of Windows users are not
sufficiently aware of the Mac and OS X as a serious option.
Do I even want to respond to this?
Your response is incorrect. Prefer means tend to
Thanks for the link. I usually assume Tom is just making stuff up because
he never provides links when he's in all out carpet bombing mode as he has
been.
Perhaps morons was too strong a word, but my point remains. Apple usually
takes a path that takes choices away from consumers to better
On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:57 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
What is a real free choice in this instance? Consumers may be
brainwashed, but they still have a free choice. Perhaps you are
saying that their being brainwashed may have resulted in not having a
REAL free choice...
There is some of
On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:11 AM, mike wrote:
But then those so called intellectuals...
Well that proves the previous point about ...channelling this popular
anger against intellectual snobs.
The most effective way to keep the serfs in line is to convince them
that freedom would mean their
I believe that the great masses of mac users believe cost is not a
consideration.
You may also be right, people stick to what they are used to. They stick to
what their friends have. They use things that their friends can help them
fix if something goes wrong. The thing is, mac users do the
On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:40 AM, mike wrote:
Thanks for the link. I usually assume Tom is just making stuff up
Just because you constantly make things up does not mean that I do. I
don't have to make things up because I am not defending an
indefensible position. I don't always provide links
On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:20 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
You were saying, in strictly
general terms related to current technology, that wanting to have
currently popular and widely used interface ports is indicative of
clinging to the past. Again I ask, how so? You could have said,
using
I know freedom scares liberals like you, things like self reliance are
frightening.
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:49 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:40 AM, mike wrote:
In my opinion this can cost the consumer freedoms.
If the iPhone ran multiple apps, users could choose to
You do make things up..I *still* await your link, as I have many times. You
make crazy assertions, you should back them up.
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:40 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:40 AM, mike wrote:
Thanks for the link. I usually assume Tom is just making stuff up
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:11 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
The only ones I've ever heard say they are 'forced to use windows' are mac
users. I've heard plenty of complaints from windows users, but never 'I
went into the store and the salesman forced me to buy windows'. It reminds
me of
All of this mac vs pc reminds me of what henry ford evidently said
at some time.
You can have any car I make, any color you wish, as long as it is black
Someone else also said.
Mine is biggern yours
YMMV
Rich
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On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote:
To me, for someone to choose implies that they are reasonably informed about
the options. I believe that great masses of Windows users are not
sufficiently aware of the Mac and OS X as a serious option.
Agreed. However, an
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:52 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:20 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Please do not be so damn silly. This is a meaningless non-response
to my query and shows me that you view me as being an idiot. Having a
USB port does not mean that one has
At this point, why not WAIT AND SEE what happens when the iPad gets
into the stores and people actually buy it and start using it?
It seems to me that the discussion has gone about as far as it can go
at this point, at this imperfect state of knowledge about the device
And we know nothing
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:59 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Someone else even pointed out that you can now buy an SD card that gives the
camera a wireless link. Isn't that a far better way to link your camera to
an iPad?
Perhaps so, but at what cost? $60 for a couple of gigs? Transfer
phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote:
To me, for someone to choose implies that they are reasonably informed about
the options. I believe that great masses of Windows users are not
sufficiently aware of the Mac and OS X as a serious
Constance Warner wrote:
At this point, why not WAIT AND SEE what happens when the iPad gets
into the stores and people actually buy it and start using it?
It seems to me that the discussion has gone about as far as it can go
at this point, at this imperfect state of knowledge about the device
Tom imagines a lot...now he is imagining a world where everyone is
controlled. Typically, people like this are really the ones being
controlled...as Apple does to it's users.
Hey Mike--Tom, too -
Cut out the hyperbole.
We use Macs and iPods/iPhones because they're good products, in spite of
I know freedom scares liberals like you, things like self reliance are
frightening.
Sorry, Mike, but this is unnecessary, incorrect, and insulting. You know I'm
liberal. Do you seriously believe that I am frightened by self-reliance even
though I've been self-employed for nearly
thirty years?
From:Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
David, sorry, but I have plenty of experience with multitouch devices. Of the
two I have now, the SMALL one is 12 (and they're both 16:9, by the way, not
4:3 like iPad). The iPad's touchscreen is
To be honest political discourse is ruing political discourse these days.
All people ever hear or listen to is sound bites.
If I actually believed what is said when I listen to sound bites I
would be in big trouble.
Politicians speak in sound biteese.
Have you ever seen how some of those
Apologies, I let myself get away from myself. I usually hit Tom's crazy
talk with hyperbole of my own. I suppose the difference is, I know it's
hyperbole. So to present company, no insult intended.
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
I know freedom
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote:
Can an ignorant person actually be making a choice?
Or does ignorance preclude the possibility that a choice is being made?
Wow, that's a tough one. Just how ignorant are we taking about here?
Steve
If the ipad has wifi, you can connect it that way to any service I would
expect. Thus you could get a sprint or verizon mifi and use it like that.
I know there are programs for windows and android that let you turn your
mobile phone into a wifi router and this would work too.
On Sun, Jan 31,
Not sure what point you're trying to make with the Air, but the primary
concern with it was pretty obviously keeping down the weight without
sacrificing performance, not saving money. With USB on Macs, yes,
nearly everything you expect to work with it does work with it, flash
drives, printers
I agree!
Jordan wrote:
Constance Warner wrote:
At this point, why not WAIT AND SEE what happens when the iPad gets
into the stores and people actually buy it and start using it?
It seems to me that the discussion has gone about as far as it can go
at this point, at this imperfect state of
Palm has introduced two new Palm phones that can do this. (pre and Pixi)
However they do charge you a pretty penny (30 per month) extra (this
is over and above your data plan) but cheaper than the mifi plan.
If you were traveling and knew you were going to be gone for a month
or so this
On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Jordan wrote:
More of us should have heeded David Pogue's advice quoted early in
this discussion.
Quote provided by Tom, but you didn't respond as suggested.
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On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:44 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
nonstandard SIM slot
It is not non-standard. In is the next generation SIM.
Once again, some prefer to be clinging to the past.
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More hyperbole, less agreeing, Stephen!
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Stephen Brownfield
steveei...@verizon.netwrote:
I agree!
Jordan wrote:
Constance Warner wrote:
At this point, why not WAIT AND SEE what happens when the iPad gets into
the stores and people actually buy it and
This is interesting because a lot of people blame windows under this same
scenario.
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:03 PM, David K Watson
davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote:
When some devise
doesn't fully work, it usually can be blamed on the manufacturer's
software, and you blame them, not Apple.
Probably easier to set up, but it can already be done on a lot of phones.
iPhones too if they are jailbroken...
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:
Palm has introduced two new Palm phones that can do this. (pre and Pixi)
However they do
On Jan 31, 2010, at 12:56 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, isn't that thingy the mess of wires dragging around that you
were saying Apple eschews in their visions of the future, which by the
way, is like in the next five minutes or less. Personally, I am never
in the future anyway, only in
That's ok, neither did you...and you posted it. Heh
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Jordan wrote:
More of us should have heeded David Pogue's advice quoted early in this
discussion.
Quote provided by Tom, but you didn't respond as
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:05 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
If the ipad has wifi, you can connect it that way to any service I would
expect. Thus you could get a sprint or verizon mifi and use it like that.
I know there are programs for windows and android that let you turn your
mobile
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:19 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Once again, some prefer to be clinging to the past.
Clinging to the past or just guilty of using existing technology?
Steve
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Apologies, I let myself get away from myself. I usually hit Tom's crazy
talk with hyperbole of my own. I suppose the difference is, I know it's
hyperbole. So to present company, no insult intended.
Apology happily accepted.
tjpa wrote:
On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Jordan wrote:
More of us should have heeded David Pogue's advice quoted early in
this discussion.
Quote provided by Tom, but you didn't respond as suggested.
I'm aware of that and appreciate it, (I read Pogue all the time) and I
have not
On Jan 31, 2010, at 3:32 PM, mike wrote:
Yes in fact it is non-standard, take the glasses off and read a
little more
about it. Apple used this sim for the one purpose of not allowing the
standard sims to be placed in the device. The micro sim is not a
'thing of
the future' it is just a
http://www.exopc.com/fr/exopc-slate.php
The site is in french, but you can see pretty clearly the end result. Specs
listed contain what you'd expect (unless you are already an ipad fan), still
no HD, but it is slightly more widescreen than the ipad.
Name someone in the US that is using them. Anyone? I'll give you a hint,
it's the maker of a GPS tracker for kids. That's it. I never said anything
regarding the length of time this has been out...12 years and it's still not
standard. You are changing the point of what I said just enough to
Check this link out.
PeeWee Herman has an Ipad.
http://www.switched.com/2010/01/29/pee-wee-loves-the-ipad-chairry-stays-mum/?icid=main|main|dl7|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.switched.com%2F2010%2F01%2F29%2Fpee-wee-loves-the-ipad-chairry-stays-mum%2F
Stewart
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:
Check this link out.
PeeWee Herman has an Ipad.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Schmidt, Paul paul.schm...@ssa.govwrote:
Not on this scale, but the Newman Foundation seems to do pretty good
too.
FYI You got sent to spam in my gmail with a big red warning that you may
not be who you claim to be.
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I read somewhere that, that has ben in the works for a little while now.
Stewart
At 07:19 PM 1/31/2010, you wrote:
I wonder how and why he had the set handy. Could this be a hint that Pee
Wee has something on the horizon.
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Apple internally acknowledges more 27 iMac screen issues
Apple support technicians are told to tell customers complaining about
the issue that slight variations are normal. If the customer complains
further, the tech is supposed to get contact information so the
customer can be contacted about
On Jan 31, 2010, at 6:53 PM, mike wrote:
Name someone in the US that is using them. Anyone? I'll give you a
hint,
it's the maker of a GPS tracker for kids. That's it. I never said
anything
regarding the length of time this has been out...12 years and it's
still not
standard. You are
SNL's take on iPad, from Weekend Update (this is from memory, doesn't seem to
be online):
And in technology news, Apple this week released new stuff that does the same
stuff as their old stuff. In other news. ...
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nonstandard SIM slot
It is not non-standard. In is the next generation SIM.
Once again, some prefer to be clinging to the past.
This SIM card is too small for those of us who switch cards frequently.
The micro SIM is about 30% smaller [about the size you need to cut a
regular SIM card
Tmo US or overseas? I just read an article today that said the micro sim
was not in use anywhere in the US.
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:48 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
nonstandard SIM slot
It is not non-standard. In is the next generation SIM.
Once again, some prefer to be
Apple internally acknowledges more 27 iMac screen issues
http://tinyurl.com/yd57t2o
Remedy? Soup up a Mac Mini and get one of the large HP displays that
uses an S-IPS LG Philips panel, like my son has? Find a 24 iMac
instead? In addition to this article at Ars Technica, there's more
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