Re: [CGUYS] AVG free update attack?
At 12:40 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote: Does anybody know if the AVG update prompt was legitimate? It seems to me that if this was an actual attack, work would have spread by now (I haven't heard anything about it). I am suspicious because I haven't experienced AVG presenting this type of prompt in the past, that I can recall. I got that msg. I didn't restart immediately, but turned off the computer at night. Everything seemed fine the next morning. I've had no trouble with anything since. Must admit I don't get restart notices very often from AVG, since moving up to Win7. I used to get them all the time on XP. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Digital camera battery??
I am searching online for an additional rechargeable battery for my Nikon Coolpix 775. The original battery is 7.4V 650 mAh. I am seeing choices of 7.2/7.4 800mAh (and 1000 and 1100). All say they are compatible with my camera. Most are 7.2V. Does the difference in voltage matter? Will 1100mAh last longer than 650 mAh? What is my best choice? I've just finished a road trip and kept killing the battery. It was purchased in 2001, and really doesn't owe me anything! Radio Shack sold me a non-rechargeable for $21, along the way. Rechargeables I'm seeing online are all under $15. Advice?? Thanks, Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing
At 08:03 AM 1/27/2010, you wrote: I agree and some of the biggest offenders are law enforcement and government. There is no official word yet on this one, but generally accepted that this is what happened in this accident: http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20101210382 [clips] SIDNEY -- The first female New York state trooper was killed in the line of duty when her patrol car drifted across the center line of Route 23 and collided with a westbound tractor-trailer, state police said Thursday. The speed limit was 55 mph, but speed was not a factor based on interviews with people who witnessed the crash, Molinari said. He also said drug screening came back negative, but police haven't ruled out the possibility that the trooper may have been using a cell phone or texting at the time of the crash. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing
At 08:36 PM 1/27/2010, you wrote: Isn't this easy enough to find out? Don't cell phones and/or the provider keep time stamped logs of usage? Of course they do, but I doubt we ever hear the end of the story--if anyone even wants to look. The funeral was huge--big parade of police cars. The reporting would have been totally different had it not been a police officer. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
At 04:45 PM 1/18/2010, you wrote: I'll argue it. I've only owned two cheap (~$100) digital cameras - a Kodak and a Panasonic and neither had any shutter lag at all. The few earlier cameras that had this problem got a lot of press. Shutter lag is a problem with my Nikon Coolpix. But I bought it in 2001, so I can't complain too much. I've had much fun with it over the years. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
At 10:31 AM 1/1/2010, you wrote: Example: we finally got my mother to buy a small cellphone for which you buy service with little phone cards, because we didn't want her to get stranded on the road somewhere, far from help. She keeps it turned off, most of the time. She's not a Luddite; she loves email and took to OS X with an alacrity that surprised us. But to her, the telephone is a LANDLINE in her house. She would be very DISPLEASED with any proposal that meant that she had to carry a little phone-- with a tiny, hard-to read keyboard--around with her all the time and pay a lot more for the resulting phone service. And where she lives, the cell coverage is very spotty, whereas landline service is pretty much universal, even in hard-to-reach areas. This pretty much describes my cell phone use also. I live in a mountainous area, and when you live in a valley, there's no service--regardless of how many towers they put up! My service at the house is iffy, even though I can see 2 towers out my window. This is why we've had extensive use of cable TV in this area for at least 40 years. Even though I rarely use the cell, I need to charge it occasionally. I'll plug it in and forget to put it back in my purse. Either that or I forget to charge it. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS?
At 05:08 PM 12/21/2009, you wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:19 PM, db wrote: Sorry for the bad news. It's unlikely that there is an easy or quick solution to your problem. Switch to a Mac and don't install Office. That will make him practically invincible. Ya know, I'm just a simple Windows user here. I have a few experiences under my belt, which people on this list have helped me resolve, but never anything too serious. Replies like this are wearying. Switch to a Mac??? This woman just gave a brand new computer to her son. There is a problem with it. I really don't think she wrote in to this list to be told Switch to a Mac. Do you really feel that is helpful advice at this point? If this list is meant only for Mac users, I wish someone would state that so the rest of us can find a different list that may be more helpful. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Quality control?
At 01:14 PM 11/3/2009 -0500, you wrote: Walmart dress pants $20. Material disintegrates in 2 years so pants are no longer useable. Men's shop dress pants $80. After 10 years of heavy use still look good. It is just like the Mac vs. PC comparison. Let us not get into what brands of clothes wear better! Designer jeans are a joke compared to Lee and Levi--both found at Walmart. :) Even in dressy clothes, price doesn't always mean anything, and 'labels' mean even less. Most any 10 y/o clothes are better-made than anything new. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage
At 09:51 AM 11/2/2009 -0500, you wrote: Don't fall for this. The person claimed he needed to read his emails when he wasn't online. I pointed out the fallacy involved. Namely, that if he had a job that *really* required this, he could get cell coverage over most of the country. Of course, it turned out he really has no such need, and is just using that as yet another excuse to cling to his old email app. You have no idea what his needs are. I don't travel into areas with no internet coverage very often, but when I do, it can indeed be a dead zone, with poor cell coverage. I certainly don't travel there often enough to contract for cell coverage at _any_ monthly rate! I think the good Rev lives in the midwest, which is where I have family and go maybe a couple times per year. There is NO ISP available _at all_, unless you want to sign up with the local phone co for a year-long contract, or even a monthly contract. That is one of the reasons I stick with Earthlink, who has an 800 dialup available for an as-needed price, if all else fails. Why don't all of you just lay off those of us who have searched and found the best solutions to our individual situations? We're not trying to convince you to change your way of doing things. Just know that you are not in everyman's situation. Until you get outside of your privileged environments, you cannot speak for every situation. I have available every hi-tek thing known to man when I'm at home, but when I travel, it is entirely different. Maybe it all depends on where one travels? BTW--cell coverage in my home area is very spotty, due to the very hilly/treed terrain. Within a 6 mile trip, I regulary lose coverage at least twice. I have NO cell reception at my summer home. I'm not complaining--wouldn't trade that place for all the cell coverage in the world. I've simply found a workaround for the problems I encounter. Your system wouldn't work for me. Sue--upstate NY * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
At 01:46 PM 11/1/2009 -0500, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Marcio wrote: I have asked and I repeat... what is a better alternative today? Or at least comparable?... And mind you I do use web mail too... Can't say because our EFBs have not articulated any serious reasons for sticking with Eudora. The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in pink backgrounds with yellow writing (stationeries) and animated smilies! I'd like to know what others think an email program _should do_ that Eudora doesn't. Long ago I switched from IE to (first) Mozilla and then Firefox. Initially it was because of all the pop-ups that couldn't be controlled within IE, and I saw no reason to install a pop-up blocker in IE when one was built in to Firefox. I switched from Norton AV to AVG because I ended up with all kinds of problems with Norton. I'll never put it on another machine I am associated with. AVG has never given me any problems and the price is good. :) I also run Avast on another machine, mainly because I wanted to compare AVG and Avast, and am happy with that also. I see no reason to switch either of those. I do have Thunderbird installed on a machine, mainly so that I can guide others with its use. It appears to be a fine program too, although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of real Eudora. I haven't really searched, but does T'Bird have the colored labels? I use that feature in Eudora quite often. I also like the 'trainable' junk feature--much simpler than setting up filters, and it works very well. If Eudora quits working, I guess I'll have no choice but to switch. Until then, I see no good reason to do it. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
At 09:43 AM 10/31/2009 -0500, you wrote: I sometimes end up in places and areas with no Internet connection (HORRORS? Yes Virginia there are still places like that) In that case I do not need the net because I have my email messages and can look one up if I need to. Cloud storage might be good and secure (?) But it is dependent on having a connection. Not real bright. I use a flash drive and a little program called EZ Back it Up to back up certain files daily. Initially, I added all of my mailbox files. It runs on a scheduler, or can be run manually. It overwrites changed files only. I have certain Eudora mailboxes included in this automatic backup. I'm lucky to get a 14,400 dialup connection at my summer house (no cable or DSL there). Web sites take forever to load. It is faster for me to download the mail, go offline to read/reply, and go back online to send. Also I'm not tying up the phone line this way. It's nice to have choices to suit one's purpose! Unless I lose the flash drive, I'm OK. :) Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
At 08:59 AM 10/31/2009 -0700, you wrote: I don't keep anything on flash I don't fully expect to lose. Define lose. You fear the data disappearing, or you physically lose the flash drive? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7
At 01:56 PM 10/31/2009 -0400, you wrote: I was a huge Eudora fan in a different era. It did nothing but email, but it did it very well, very intuitively. Certainly in the PC software all time hall of fame. Remember, often the alternative was Outlook. What else do you want your email to do? I have apps for specific things. One big problem I find in trying to teach new computer students is that IE appears to do all online functions, yet does nothing as well as the separate apps. Because I use Firefox, and have my bookmarks in the cloud, I put all of genealogy bookmarks in Firefox at the Senior Center so they stay synched with mine at home. I heard one man telling another one day that you have to use Firefox for those genealogy web sites. Most of them just can't grasp the concept that a browser is an app, and email is also an app (unless you're using webmail). Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
At 03:14 PM 10/16/2009 -0400, you wrote: I don't recall a Burroughs. My decks fed into an IBM 360/30 at that location c. 1972. You? _THAT'S_ a blast from the past! I remember my husband installing and supporting IBM 360's! In fact, I remember us having to move once to an IBM facility in Rochester, MN, for training for him to learn to do this! That had to have been in the mid '60's. Anyway, I've thoroughly enjoyed the responses to this thread. :) Am also heartened to know that my assumed definition of the cloud was correct. Maybe I'm not too old to catch a concept? Thanks to all. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Plain English, please...
I want to know---what is the cloud? Does it refer to storage sites on some server somewhere? Or something more esoteric than that? Am I using it and don't know? The best thing I've found in a long time is X-Marks, considering I'm often using public computers. Is my Earthlink webmail in the cloud? I'm supposed to the computer teacher at the senior center. I think I need to know what I'm talking about before I start throwing these terms around. :) Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why Am I Not Surprised?
At 03:40 PM 10/13/2009 -0400, you wrote: New Republican Party 2.0 web site debuts with bugs and blanks http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin/detail??blogid=150entry_id=49465#ixzz0TqWmanSM The first post makes Steele sound like he just discovered the internet yesterday. The accomplishments page's last listing was 2004 touting vouchers for DC school children. The issues pages is blank. The future leaders page has a brief essay with no actual featured leaders. The most contemporary heroes are Ronald Reagan and Dwight Eisenhower. I guess George W. Bush does not count?... the site keeps returning php errors, eg: http://www.gop.com/index.php/learn/what_we_believe/ returns an error message - PHP has encountered an Access Violation at 01DFBB01. Hmmm, that's the only page (besides the Donate page) that I can get to work. The home page doesn't load at all. Maybe they're working on it right now? :) I've seen far better pages belonging to 13 y/o's on Facebook. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Windows 7 review
Well, here's a review from a run-of-the-mill user, who decided to have Win7 evaluation installed on the new computer I had built about a month ago. I think I may represent the majority of home users. I find it does appear to be slower to boot, but that may be because it just doesn't even light up the monitor until the last step of the boot. The builder told me that one thing Win7 does is changes the boot order of many of the functions. I am skipping from XP to Win7--never had Vista. It has a lot of bells and whistles that aren't particularly useful to me. Pity anyone who gets Win7 for their first computer, and then has to go back to use an older OS. I do like the hover-over-icon previews. I've found no use for snap, and that is touchy. Anyone who is used to managing their own file system will have some problems. It really buries any useful files and folders, and requires quite a lot of knowledge in order to find them. It comes with no desktop icons, so you have to locate the programs (My Documents, for instance), and put them there yourself. I like that one can get rid of the IE icon! I've not had it long enough to comment any further. I will take the computer back to the shop for them to get the paid code and install that after the release date. I also can't comment on the speed, as this machine is so much bigger/faster that the one that it replaced. I only know I'm very happy with it so far. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update i.e. IE 6, 7, 8
At 11:03 PM 8/28/2009 -0400, you wrote: Has anyone had trouble with Windows Update, when using any of those versions? The only trouble I'm having is that MS seems to be pushing IE8--even after I've declined to install it 3 times now, and have hidden that update. I don't use IE (except for updates), and don't want an update. I have auto updates set for notifications, but if you use the icon at the bottom of the screen, you do not get to see what is downloading. You do get a chance to see what the updates are before you install them. I suspect I have downloaded IE8...maybe even twice, but have not allowed the install. I'm using XP Home SP3. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Asking for prepaid cell phone recommendation
David Cowdrill wrote: I live in No. Va. also and use T-Mobile pre-paid for uses like you describe. Advantages: - low cost: first year I paid $100 for 1000 min. Used 500 in first year, second year is $50 for another year. Hard to beat $4 per month. Disadvantages: T-Mobile coverage is spotty. OK here. Non-existent or weak other areas. Need to check coverage map for where you go. That's what's nice about TracFone. They buy space on all of the major companies' towers. You get coverage from whatever tower you're nearest. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Asking for prepaid cell phone recommendation
At 05:57 PM 8/23/2009 -0400, you wrote: So far I have resisted getting a cell phone for myself. Wife daughters insist on having one, so that I am paying about $150/month for same. Don't want to add on to my plan since it requires another 2-year contract, plus wifey will be constantly calling me for help, for chitchat, and for no reason other than she's bored. (I don't like to talk on any telephone since meaning of words is ambiguous without visual communication.) Heard about prepaid cell phones on this Listserv, asking for recommendations. What I want cell phone for: for travel emergency and, possibly, for travel advice from friends while traveling Estimated monthly useage: 10 minutes/month What I would use: voice telephony What I wouldn't use: text or picture messaging, web browsing, picture taking, anything else. What I don't want: people text messaging me, or calling me to chitchat. What's not important: overseas calling, or long distance except during travel emergency My location: Northern Virginia and DC. Question: is a prepaid cell phone cost effective for me? Cheaper than adding onto a family plan? What prepaid plan is recommended? I've had a TracFone for years. I never have it turned on unless _I_ want to use it. I don't give out the number. For $100/yr you get a year of service and 700 (I think) minutes. Usage minutes are doubled for out-of-area calls. You can buy minutes in many increments--at a lot of gas stations, convenience stores, Walmart, Kmart, etc. I never used my base minutes, so started using them at home for LD calls--until I went with cable phone, and there's no LD charges on that. There are cheaper plans for less amount of time, but then you need to renew the plan more often. I just go into Walmart, pick up the size of card I want, hand it to the clerk, and they do all the renewal process if you ask them to. You need to keep the account active, or you lose your phone number--if that's important. TracFone buys space on towers from most big carriers, and I've never encountered a location where I wasn't able to connect...basically coast to coast. You can add services like text msging if you want--I don't know the cost of that. The basic service doesn't include that, or pictures or web interface. The basic phone is around $20, if I remember. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV
At 11:54 PM 8/8/2009 -0400, you wrote: Huh? This is so far out of left field I just have to ask what you can possibly mean by it??? Why would anyone - admin, moderator, or member, need to be online all the time? And how could anyone without web access still use a mailing list? You can join Yahoo Groups by email, and receive all your msgs by email. I moderate several Yahoo groups, and rarely ever even go to the web site. The only things you can't do by email is edit posts or change the status of members. I don't use the web to real my email--I use Eudora with extensive filtering. It's much faster. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV
At 08:20 AM 8/9/2009 -0500, you wrote: No that is not it. I do not want to be looking on the web all the time I have work to do. When I am working, all I have to do is pop open my mail browser when I have mail, delete what I do not want, and then go back to what I am doing. I do not wan to be in a browser all the time answering stuff or replying it is a PIA. When I need an attachment for something I simply go the attachments directory and get it. I do not have to open a browser etc. etc. Maybe in the future it will be different but for now I prefer Email. Stewart Amen to that! Some email programs have ring tones that you can set for individuals. I don't even have to be sitting in front of the computer to hear if I've gotten a response from someone I've been waiting to hear from. My email is running at all times, minimized. Having the attachments in their own directory is something I rely upon heavily. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars
At 03:34 PM 8/9/2009 -0400, you wrote: I theorize that the more people use such devices instead of their brains, wits and common sense, the more reliant one becomes on those devices and the less useful the brain becomes. Also, would those old ladies, or men, even know how to use an iPhone? Some of us do. :) But I firmly agree that it's easy to become reliant on gadgets. I've become dependent on lists. If I don't have a to-do list anymore, I think I have nothing to do--so I play! It's a very lazy way of living. But don't get in my way when I have a long list! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars
First, there has not been a recognition in this debate that using the devices, particularly the GPS unit, improves driving safety. I have to agree that searching for addresses as you drive is risky business. I don't have a GPS, but I thought they talked to you? No matter where such a gadget that has to be viewed is installed, if it requires one to take their eyes off the road, that is the problem...not that it blocks one's view of the road. I don't chew gum and drive, nor do I have my cell turned on while I'm driving. For sure I couldn't dial a number or text safely while driving. I have no idea if I could drive safely with a voice-activated cell, but if I really needed a cell while driving, it seems to me that would be the safest way. Mostly, I like the cell for my convenience--not anyone else's. I've not travelled much out of my area since my husband died, but I'm thinking I might like a GPS. Please tell me that I can get one that talks? You'd be surprised what you can stick on your dashboard. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars
It seems to me that any gadgets that are not directly involved with _driving_ should not be allowed to be used by drivers. How much simpler can it get? Program your GPS before you leave! Haul anything you want in the back seat. Allow back seat passengers to do whatever they want. But keep them out of the front seat. CERTAINLY keep them from being installed. JMHO, Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
At 01:33 PM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote: You should only be angry at yourself, as nothing was installed without your permission. This is exactly why I have locked down all the computers at the Senior Center. Users have nearly no permissions. I have all browsers opening to Google's home page, to make it easy for all the newbies to use the web. However, I don't need to spend days uninstalling things that they may innocently click on and download/install. I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. Since I've started this program, the repair shop across the street has gotten several new customers. :) I've convinced that shop that when these people bring their machines in to get them cleaned, they will install Firefox and then I teach them to use that instead of IE. It solves some of the problems. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare
I just want to say thanks to the powers that be on this list for allowing this discussion. How I ended up with having nearly all conservative friends is beyond me! Admittedly, I have not gone searching the web for health care discussions, but it is very refreshing to know that there are others in this world who think more along the lines that I do, concerning this topic. It seems to me if we take away the benefits for illegal aliens and clean up the welfare system, there would be little extra cost in giving all American citizens basic healthcare. I realize I'm opening a can of worms here, especially involving illegal aliens. I have no problem with them working here. I just don't think they should be entitled to the benefits of citizens. No green card, no cash, no health care. I also don't think they should pay income taxes. Nor should they be able to send their kids to our schools without paying tuition. They should be considered visitors. If they can't support themselves here, they should go home. The year my kids turned 16 and were eligible to take driver's ed in the summer, the local school district where our summer cottage is would not let them take driver's ed at that school (because we were only seasonal residents). We spent entire summers there. And of course, we paid full school taxes there! It doesn't seem like it takes a lot of common sense to figure out what's fair for everyone. The way it is right now, if the economy takes a downturn, and jobs are lost, so is the health care. To buy it privately is not even conceivable--especially when you have been laid off your job. These are the kinds of discrepancies that need to be ironed out, IMHO. Greed is what stands in the way. Several generations of welfare in a family, illegal aliens, the government collecting income taxes from illegals, insurance companies posting millions in profits--all of this is what's making the problem. I do believe the president sees things this way also, and this is what he's trying to do something about (although he's not quite as radical as I am about making the system fair). Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare
At 04:49 PM 7/28/2009 -0500, you wrote: Sue in a vast majority of cases they do pay taxes. I do not know of any employer here in America (legitimate) who does not withhold taxes out of paychecks, unless they consider the worker a contractor. Many (A good number) of south of the border people work in the food industry (Mainly animal processing) and to get hired they must show ID/SS cards etc. Even though these numbers may be bad (stolen, made up etc.) and have passed government scrutiny (Tysons runs them all before employment) they then withhold taxes under those numbers. It is only those illegals who are working for cash under the table that do not pay taxes. I think if you checked a statistical (non biased) examination of that argument it would proof moot, as for the number that pay into the system do not collect any benefits out of the system. My knowledge of this comes from working with them for a time and observing their process. Stewart My point exactly. If they are not citizens, they should not pay taxes. Nor should they claim the benefits of citizenship. Let them work here, but pay their own way. How much more fair can you get? In many countries, you cannot own property without being a citizen. I see no problem with that either. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead
At 08:48 PM 7/17/2009 -0400, you wrote: I would assume that Death Certificates get registered centrally in a county or state. I have been told that there is a subscription service for such information, that banks check every morning. I do not know if that is true. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead
NO WAY! I've just been through this. Survivors NEED a password and User ID list. There are even accounts that are not on home computers--phone accounts. If survivors don't know the magic words, they can get nowhere in trying to resolve matters. It's quite a different matter when dealing with adult kids than it is dealing with a surviving spouse who may be dependent on accessing funds that may be in shared accounts. Thankfully my life was not interrupted financially when my husband passed. I happen to trust my adult kids. They have all of my access info. If I didn't trust them, I would have provided such a list to my attorney. Until you have lived through such a mess, you should quit worrying about computer security and get real. Sue At 05:11 PM 7/16/2009 -0400, you wrote: I think a much better solution would be to get them their own accounts. Writing down and sharing a password is a serious security breach. Besides, are you really going to remember to do that every time you change your password? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead
At 03:14 PM 7/16/2009 -0700, you wrote: And just where is this info backed up in case your computer gets hit by a blimp? It is also not good enough, as some places make you, as surviving spouse, tell them the passwords on the phone or in person. If passwords are encrypted, as most are, you'd better be able to tell them, or it's no banana. Within 12 hrs, both banks and credit unions had shut down internet access to his accounts (including our joint accounts). As had Social Security and his pension company. Be prepared for a lot of running around in person. Don't be dumb. Write them down and give them to those people who will need them. And if any of you are in that 'sandwich generation'--taking care of your parents' affairs, be sure to do this with them also if you are on their accounts. Sue On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: My wife and I both use Firefox and know how to access Saved Passwords in the Security tab of Options. Also handy when you revisit a site whose pw you have forgotten. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead
At 09:56 PM 7/16/2009 -0400, you wrote: I'm not sure I understand. They shut down your joint account within 12 hours of *what*? Your husband's death? Or when they were notified of his death? Or when the executor told them to? Banks, Social Security and probably others have some sort of inside track to deaths. They didn't shut down the joint accounts--just online access to them...until I appeared in person with proof of identity and a death certificate. I still had to give them passwords, which they insisted I change on the spot, before they turned the online access back on. SS and pension required a death certificate to be faxed before they would even talk to me on the phone. Sue And if this is the case, what good did it do you to have the password to the account? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online
At 11:16 PM 6/22/2009 -0400, you wrote: The office called today and asked a technical question about one of their video cameras. Of course, my first response was to shout at the boss RTFM! But, she _does_ pay me for this type of thing, so I googled the manual. I found it on Retrevo, apparently a new service. I can see a real need for this type of service. Then there are items sold with NO manuals! I have one of those remote sensor thermometers and needed to change the batteries last week. I knew there was some sort of trick to setting them up. I never throw ANY manual away, but seemed to remember we had to go online to find the instructions. The web site is written on the back of the thermometer! Very convenient--as long as one has access to a computer. :) I did print off a couple of pages though, for the few things that I might really need to know in the future, and put them in the file with my other manuals. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] links cut off
At 12:02 PM 6/20/2009 -0400, you wrote: On my screen the following goes all the way to the right side without wrapping. What do others see? 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012 345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234 56789012345678 I see 2 full lines, plus a little on a 3rd line. But that's probably because I don't run my email full-screen. My Eudora doesn't break the links, even at the ends of lines, though. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle
Why did we do this anyway? I have cable at home, but have no cable access at my lake property (or I would have it there also). We were able to pick up at least SOME snowy reception from the nearest city (Syracuse, NY) with analog and a roof antenna, for 3 major networks. Now with a DTV converter, we are able to pick up 2 non-network Syr channels crystal clear, but NO network channels. Nevermind that we subbed to DirectTV (satellite) several yrs ago, but were hoping that we would now be able to pick up the most local channels via digital. It didn't work. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Have you seen this net?
At 08:41 PM 5/16/2009 -0400, you wrote: When did you last see it? What do you mean by stole it anyway? When did we have our internet that we now do not have and was taken from us by illicit means? I have it. It's in my basement. The League of Extraordinary Robber Barons asked me to hold onto to it for a couple days while their lair is being redecorated. Oh, I beg to differ! I know where at least one internet is--it's in one of my senior citizen's computer! She has a different one than the one that's at the senior center, and her husband has a different one yet! Makes sense to her! I don't argue semantics with 85 y/o's. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cyber pirates
At 01:51 PM 5/8/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hackers Want Millions For Data on Prescriptions: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/07/AR2009050702515.html Has anyone read the new Jeffrey Deaver novel about data mining? It's most interesting. He's one of my favorite authors, as he does seem to do his homework before writing. The Broken Window. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Prepaid the Majority
At 04:10 PM 4/25/2009 -0400, you wrote: The topic of pre-paid cell phone plans has been much discussed on the list, but I thought such plans were just an odd corner of the market for really cheap folks like me. I just read that 60% of T-Mobile's subscribers are on pre-paid plans. Average revenue per subscriber is in the mid $50s per month. That's what I spend per year on my pre-paid. So those monthly subscribers must be dropping serious dough on feeding their communication habits! Very interesting. I REALLY don't want to be found/availble 24/7. I have TracFone prepaid, and never use all the minutes before I have to renew yearly @ around $100/1000 minutes. What plan do you have that's mid $50's? I'd be interested! I keep the cell for outgoing when _I_ want it. Mine doesn't take pictures, and I guess I could get texting/voice mail if I wanted, but I don't! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox tabs
At 10:03 AM 4/11/2009 -0400, you wrote: You type that into your address box (about:config). But be careful. Don't change anything in there unless you know what you're doing. Really, the only options you might need to change for tabs is in the ToolsOptionsTabs. Or just use your middle mouse button! :) Thanks, Tony--it works just the way I want it to! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Firefox tabs
I have Firefox set to new pages should be opened in a new tab. This works fine if I click on a link in a new email. However, if I attempt to open a new site from my Personal Tool Bar, the new page opens in the tab that is currently open. Am I doing something wrong? The only way I can seem to have more than one tab is to open a new tab first. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox tabs
At 04:29 PM 4/10/2009 -0400, you wrote: I use my middle mouse button to open links in new tabs. I don't have a middle mouse button. :) So I'm not missing something in the controls setup? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox tabs
At 05:08 PM 4/10/2009 -0400, you wrote: A laptop? Strangely, everyone I know - myself included - drags around mice with their laptops, so I *always* have a middle mouse button available. As Tom said, if you don't mind using two hands there are hotkeys. You can also right-click and open link in new tab. Thing is, you don't want EVERY link you click to open new tabs, only some of them. Have you considered a mouse for the laptop? No, not a laptop. It's a Logitech Trackman Wheel mouse. No center button--in the center is a scroll wheel. I have 2 of these mouses/mice/meese?--one for my desktop and one for my laptop. It's the only thing I've ever found that doesn't wreck my hand. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox tabs
At 05:22 PM 4/10/2009 -0400, you wrote: In Firefox/Seamonkey/Flock/Camino location bar type: about:config In search field type:tab That gives you all the available choices for how you want tabs to work. Double-click on any and you can change the parameters. Confused? This explains many of the settings, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries. For more, try http://kb.mozillazine.org/Category:Preferences You can create your own too! Betty Thanks, Betty! I found the list, now I just need to explore what they all mean! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox tabs
At 08:22 PM 4/10/2009 -0400, you wrote: Heh. That scroll wheel *is* your middle mouse button. Press it down. I know that it locks the scroll, but didn't know it did anything else. I'll be darned! :) Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Vote for Old Blue Eyes!
At 10:18 AM 4/9/2009 -0400, you wrote: This is what I get: The page you are trying to reach does not exist. http://www.businessinsider.com/what-should-microsoft-call-its-searc h-engine-bin g-kumo-poll-2009-4 Works for me. Do you have your Vista Alternate Reality Firewall on? HUH?? I'm not using Vista. Maybe I'll switch if they're offering an alternate reality firewall! Seriously--it was my mistake--the link broke and I didn't copy the rest of it. :) Besides, Old Blue Eyes was Sintra. All those musical geezers look the same to me. Sue, you must be a lot older than I am. I probably am! But you dare not give this nickname to ANYONE but Sinatra! We need to up your musical knowlege. :) Either that or your crossword abilities! On the other hand, voting for Sin would be fine too. Imagine MS putting up a $100M ad budget to promote sin! The Rev. would just have to hang it up. I think this list probably has the most hep Rev. I've ever encountered. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Vote for Old Blue Eyes!
At 04:42 PM 4/9/2009 -0400, you wrote: I'm betting that he didn't notice the bit of the URL that got wrapped to the next line. This is a good time to remind people that if you don't want to use tinyurl or similar service, you can wrap the URL with and most mail clients will link to the whole URL even if it is wrapped across multiple lines. Try it here http://www.businessinsider.com/what-should-microsoft-call-its-search-engine-bing-kumo-poll-2009-4 David, I realized what happened and simply pasted it in. I have TinyURL right on my Firefox toolbar, and use it all the time. It really solves a lot of problems. I also have the eagles' nest on my toolbar right now: http://www.suttoncenter.org/eaglecam.html in case anyone needs a diversion! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Vote for Old Blue Eyes!
At 01:56 PM 4/8/2009 -0400, you wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/what-should-microsoft-call-its-search-engine -bing-kumo-poll-2009-4 They won't let me vote for Zune Search. Drat! This is what I get: The page you are trying to reach does not exist. Besides, Old Blue Eyes was Sintra. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Targeting the kitchen,,,again
At 12:53 PM 4/1/2009 -0400, you wrote: Stylish, Touchscreen 'Kitchen PCs' Set to Grab Consumers http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/03/kitchen-pcs-gai.html Very KEWL! I always wanted someone to invent a computer about this size that could be installed flat under glass in a countertop, with a pull-out shelf underneath for keyboard. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Audacity
At 11:16 AM 3/16/2009 -0400, you wrote: I hope you are not using Windows because possible causes for your problem will be almost endless and won't have anything to do with Audacity. I use Audacity with Windows just fine. Granted, it's not Vista, if that matters. I've not tried it with Vista. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Spam Blocker
At 04:25 PM 02/19/2009 -0500, John Duncan Yoyo wrote Thunderbird has some sort of built in junk mail filtering as well. Does comcast offer any spam filtering? You might just need to turn it on. I'm a long-time Earthlink subscriber. They do a fantastic job of filtering spam, even at the medium setting. You can choose to have no filtering, medium, or high filtering. High filtering results in a challenge/response system which most email lists refuse to let you use. I wouldn't use it anyway. In a normal day, Earthlink catches maybe 30 spam messages to my account (you can go view them if you want to). One or 2 might get through to me, but I can report them back to Earthlink, and I believe they get added to their automatic filters. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Senior Computing [Was: political discussion]
At 10:02 AM 02/04/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote His greatest problem was selecting with the mouse, his hand was not steady enough to use menus. Definitely a situation where keyboard input would be superior to mousing. That's the biggest problem I've observed also. I have one Trakball, and nearly everyone is successful with that. I have a keyboard shortcut chart on the wall, but some can't seem to get the hang of that either. I helped with classes at another center previously, and the strategy there was to do mouse practice with Solitaire. Big mistake..they were trying to teach them as a group, but once they showed them how to access solitaire, that's all the students did during class! As you mention, sometimes seniors just aren't physically able to control a mouse. One-on-one works much better, along with teaching them what they want to know. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Senior Computing [Was: political discussion]
At 02:23 PM 02/04/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote Great idea. There are some trackballs that have a very big ball, like grapefruit size. I think that would probably be the best for seniors. Need to adjust the ball to make it less sensitive, so it takes a lot of motion to move the cursor. That would make tremors less of a problem. I have the Logitech TrackMan (I think it is) with the scroll wheel. The scroll wheel is also very helpful for them. I recently taught some classes for the LC for their non-tech staff. I started out with web sites. Sites like Shopzilla, Google Maps, Flickr. This got everybody excited and looking at different things that interested them. This gave them lots of active practice. And reasons for learning more. I'm so looking forward to getting some new machines for the center (which we've been promised). Someone set it up several yrs ago with equipment that was already used...running Win 2000 with 256 RAM. Then they walked off and left it. Nothing updated, nothing configured for easy. No support. No one has used this lab for a couple of years. We've been promised some XP machines soon. We do have broadband, but things like Google Earth and even interactive weather maps are going to have to wait. Right now, most of them don't know any better, so we're managing. I get so disgusted with projects like this--my tax dollars at work! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] political discussion
At 02:19 PM 02/04/2009 -0500, b_s-wilk wrote It's so easy to use the Delete key, easier than unsubscribing. Actually what I minded the most was the word Approve in the subject line. I manage several Yahoo email lists, and filter the requests to join from posts I need to moderate. Filtering on the word Approve is the only word I can find to sort on, since all the admin posts come from the same address. I also have notifier sounds to attract my attention when posts are filtered into those mailboxes. My Approvals mailbox kept getting filled with the recent political posts from this list. I finally put another rule in place in that filter to exclude any posts from Computer Guys. I just resented my nice filtering system getting co-opted by the political discussion. :) Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Needlepoint
At 03:25 PM 02/04/2009 -0500, b_s-wilk wrote Wait! Here's a computer question: Can you scan a picture you like and print it on canvas using an injet printer set to low res so it doesn't bleed through? If you can put CDs/DVDs in special inkjet printers, why not needlepoint canvas? [except for size] Betty I'm not sure about running canvas through a printer. :) I don't do needlepoint--I do counted cross stitch, and work from a chart. I do have cross stitch software that will allow you to scan a picture and turn it into an editable chart, with thread colors coded and named in 2 brands of floss. It's not particularly easy to obtain really good results, but it's fun to play with. Couldn't you do needlepoint from a chart? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Needlepoint
At 04:17 PM 02/04/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote Why not a Computerized Sewing and Embroidery Machine? I can tell you're not a true craftsperson. :) Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Needlepoint
At 06:18 PM 02/04/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote I'm insulted. Programming is a craft. That's why I find MS so revolting! I apologize. Most of my family are programmers, or have been at some point. I think of crafts as creating something tangible, but I see your point. I thought flow charts were lovely puzzles (back in the early 60's), but I soon lost track of progress. That was when a computer took up a small building or several rooms in a facility. I'm more a visual person, so it made a bit more sense to me back then. When things become invisible, I just file them away in my magick book. I don't really consider needlework something to be automated. It's what you do when you want to get away from automation! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] political discussion
At 05:18 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Matthew S. Taylor wrote Not at all - I might learn some interesting stuff. My daughter has gotten into crocheting, and cross stitch, and I can see embroidery on the way. Matthew OK, I'm just finishing my 7th Teresa Wentzler cross stitch project and looking forward to starting the 8th. I also have the senior citizens in town cutting plastic grocery bags into strips and crocheting sturdy grocery totes out of them. They're all happy about trying to be green, and it keeps them busy and outta bars. :) Now I will tell you that you're all supposed to be impressed, since y'all probably understand/care as much about this as I do about politics. :) At least I'm producing something, which is more than you guys are doing! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] political discussion
At 03:57 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote These got very little use and are now gone. I bet our politics thread will be gone soon too. I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] political discussion
At 08:54 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote --- I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind? So post something about computers, will you. Whining is prohibited. I do, when I have a question. I know just enough about computers to recognize a problem, and that's why I'm here! Overall, what I've learned on lists like this is being passed along... I have started teaching computer use at our local senior center. I have a little 4-machine lab and a whole bunch of people who are curious, yet afraid of new technology. One by one they are starting to come in to try their hand at it. I have browsers set to open with Google and 2 people now have Gmail accounts. It's only been 2 weeks, and some of them are becoming fairly confident with the machines. Anyone who wants a bit of more advanced help can ask for it. It's very rewarding to watch them walk out with big smiles on their faces. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
At 08:58 PM 01/26/2009 -0500, Ranbo wrote *RCA tv from the 60s that was hand-me-down seems to have finally died, just in time for me to consider buying a new, HD-ready tv. Someone suggested I might get a deal at Circuit City but wonder if it would be too much of a gamble if something goes wrong and all sales are final. Anyone here been snapping up any bargains there? Our local CC store has no real bargains. Best I saw was 10% off a few TV's, nothing off any computers yet. All sales final worries me a lot. When I bought a new TV (not from CC) last spring, I got it home and found the screen broken right in the center! There was no damage on the box. Some of the packing material was missing from the box, but the box was stapled shut as if it had never been opened. If I bought something under these final sale circumstances, I think I'd demand to take it out of the box at the store. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
At 09:12 PM 01/26/2009 -0600, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote You have every right to, but also understand all manufacturers warranties are still valid. Do you think a manufacturer would stand behind damage most likely caused in the store's warehouse? They might have in my case, as it was pretty obvious that all of the packing material wasn't in the box. Styro blocks were along one side, but not the other. I saw the breakage before ever taking it out of the box, so back to the store it went! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] suggestion
At 03:48 PM 01/19/2009 -0500, Andy Gallant wrote Folks, reading some of these messages is getting, well, depressing. May I offer a suggestion? If there's something that really needs to be said, how about saying it before, say, midnight tonight (EST), and then leave it all behind? Let's make a fresh start tomorrow. -Andy (now preparing to duck and cover ...) Move over, Andy--make some room for me too. This is all getting weary. How 'bout I make the 2 of you a nice sandbox and you can have your little spats in there? I'll admit you've taken me back a few years, when this kind of thing was the normal day for me. However, I was the mom, and sent the kids to their rooms until they could forget what they were fighting about! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer backup software
At 05:30 PM 12/10/2008 -0500, Ellen Rains Harris wrote What's wrong with the built-in backup? I've never lost anything using it (knock wood). I think the issue is...what would you do if your computer totally crashed. Your built-in backup wouldn't work then. If you want a true back-up you need to have it somewhere off of the machine you're backing up. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular featur
At 05:58 PM 12/05/2008 -0500, Tony B wrote Yes, Gmail (or some other modern in the cloud AJAX email app) may be _part_ of the answer. But, given that they all store multi-gigabytes of prior emails, I can't imagine why he would still want to go to the hassle of copying and pasting into Word documents. Anyway, I tried, but he doesn't seem to be interested. That is exactly why Eudora works best for this. You can display whichever headers you want in your regular mail delivery, or you can hit the blah-blah button and see all of the headers in an individual msg. Copy whichever version you like. There's really no need to store Eudora mail msgs in a Word doc, as you can create as many mailboxes as you like and have all your msgs filtered into them as they are downloaded from your server. If you leave them in Eudora mailboxes, you can open them at any time and expand the headers if you want. I would think that would be the case with most email apps? The difference with Eudora is that you can choose in advance _which_ headers you want displayed on a regular basis. Sue Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
At 05:10 PM 12/04/2008 -0500, Tony B wrote Since you already have a direct answer to your question, now I'd like to ask WHY you need (or want?) to do this? It kind of sounds like you're stuck with some ancient way of handling email that can quite likely be done better these days. I mean, we too use email for business, but I can't recall the last time I needed to copy headers from a client. What's the purpose? I use Eudora, which has a blah-blah button to expose all the headers in any email. I use headers to track and report spammers most of the time. Sometimes you just want to know who you're getting email from! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
At 04:45 PM 12/04/2008 -0500, Matthew S. Taylor wrote Pegasus email would do what you want. You can also change the message display options in Thunderbird to show the headers such that they would be copied. So will Eudora, which is probably the most versatile of all the email clients. You need to find Ver 7xx, though--not Ver 8--which is really Thunderbird. Far as I know you can still get Ver7xx at http://www.eudora.com/ It's available for both Win and Mac, and there is good online support via an email list http://lists.listmoms.net/lists/ Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto
At 02:01 PM 09/08/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote The only Eudora being released is a NEW one put out by the folks at Thunderbird, that is compatible with Vista. There is another. Google on Odysseus email. Looks like that's for Macs? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto
At 03:25 PM 09/08/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote EVERY program? A 2 y/o program is not exactly ancient. Where are the warnings: before you buy, please note ? And what choice does one have? What if we don't like OE (or Vista mail) for mail or IE for browsing? Compare to Apple. The two times they changed processors -- a big enough change that it would not run old software -- Apple included a very high-quality emulator. It was so good that people with little computer know-how didn't even notice that there had been a massive change. Not only does MS think they own our computers, it looks like they also think they own us. We must do whatever the master commands. A friend asked a couple of weeks ago about buying a new computer. Vista or Mac, she asked. My only advice was that there was going to be a learning curve with either (she was a Windows user). She got Vista. Price was the deciding factor. She paid $549 for the laptop she bought. She did compare capacity with Mac, and it would have been nearly $1000. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto
At 12:43 PM 09/08/2008 -0700, mike wrote Don't want vista? Don't buy it. XP is still around, some vendors are still selling it installed. This is a fake argument. No it's not. Only a few vendors will still install XP, and those mostly have to be ordered. If you want the price that's in the Sunday fliers, you get Vista. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto
At 02:20 PM 09/08/2008 -0700, mike wrote Yes...it is. I didn't say you could get it on the cheapest laptop at Best Buy. I just said it was available. You deny it's available and then in the next sentence admit it is. I'm done here. If all you want is to play semantics, that's enough for me. I'm starting to agree with Tom. If I have to buy new software every time MS decides it's time for a change, I might as well tackle the learning curve from Mac. If most businesses are refusing to use Vista, it's not a very good recommend for those of us out here who just want a computer that works. Right now I'm tearing my hair out trying to understand how to teach newbies to use a computer. Most of them are seniors, who are not of a mind to replace equipment and software all the time. Nor can I replace mine all the time just to be able to teach them. I hope you remember all this when you're older and on a fixed income. Perhaps we're all expected to remain up on the cutting edge or simply give up on life when we retire? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Desktop In Decline
At 05:24 PM 09/07/2008 -0400, John DeCarlo wrote And there isn't any literature or studies out there I have seen that indicate that Vista is not a failure. This is what scares me about Vista. Of the half-dozen people I know who are running it, every one of them are having problems. Most of them are having trouble running Eudora on Vista. They're also having trouble with AVG/Vista. I have a realtor friend whose lock box won't update nightly as it did on her XP machine. This is a major concern for her. Maybe some kind of built-in security that was never there before? Who knows? I finally had the opportunity to actually sit in front of a Vista machine last night. I was trying to help someone move some files from an XP machine via a memory stick. The only instruction manual she got with the new Vista machine was a huge fold-out how to hook up type of thing. I've advised her to go buy Vista For Dummies--there must BE one? Think I finally got all the hidden files to show, plus the file extensions. But it took awhile to find the controls. I think MS figures everyone who buys this OS is too dumb to want to transfer anything. They've dumbed it down to the point where I can't even find where they've hidden everything. Let alone, the frustrating msgs that say you don't have permission Very frustrating! We are not ALL computer geeks. We've mostly come along with the various OS's since Win95. Now we're facing a huge learning curve, unlike any other that MS has hit us with before. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Desktop In Decline
At 03:40 PM 09/07/2008 -0700, mike wrote Those msgs saying you don't have permission are security measures to keep remotes from installing on the machine, yes they tend to annoy most users. OK, but where's the instructions how to get around the problem? This is my complaint. Where's the instruction manuals that used to come with a new machine? Or where's the list of what books to buy to learn how to use it? Most of this is NOT intuitive to most of the computing public. Help files are of no use if you can't use common phrases to search them. Eudora was released in Oct. of 2006, not an extremely old program by any means, but Vista is a different beast then XP, so just expecting every program you ran under XP to run unupdated on Vista is going to be a disappointment. EVERY program? A 2 y/o program is not exactly ancient. Where are the warnings: before you buy, please note ? And what choice does one have? What if we don't like OE (or Vista mail) for mail or IE for browsing? I volunteer at a senior center. It's hard enough teaching them the basics of the moment, let alone having to make them change all their programs every other year. It would also be different if one could buy new equipment with older OS's, but you can't (except on rare occasions). We need a bit more backward compatibility than what MS is offering. I feel like some are complaining because their new car has anti-lock brakes and power steering...blame the car maker for my over steering and plowing into a wall. No, but at least the new car still uses gas and usually goes where you steer it when you turn on the key. You can still get them serviced. Plus, cars last most people more than a couple of years. MS is taking everyone for a ride, whether they want to go along or not. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista
At 10:19 AM 08/03/2008 -0400, gerald wrote i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not open. went to the eudora website, and see V8beta is available. is this a good choice to put in vista? or is it too early. when i loaded it, i was surprised that v8 did not overwrite 7, and it did not pick up filters, addresses, options from 7. The Eudora tech lists are saying that Eudora 8 is a whole new program. It is based on Thunderbird, with a Eudora skin. The files are not arranged the same way and the functionality is quite different. That's probably why it won't overwrite. I don't know if you can even access the data files from Eudora 7 (and previous versions). Perhaps there's an 'import' feature in V8 that works to do this? I've not paid a lot of attention to the discussions, as I'm perfectly happy with the latest 'real' Eudora V7.1.0.9 Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista
At 10:13 AM 08/03/2008 -0700, mike wrote Unfortunately you mean 'last' not latest. Mike Yeah, I know. Actually I'm still using 4.2.2 on this old workhorse machine, and it suits me fine also! On my newer machines, I'm using the last version. I'm hearing there are a few glitches using V7.1 on Vista, but people seem to be getting those ironed out. I don't have any Vista machines yet. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista
At 09:08 PM 08/03/2008 -0400, Fred Holmes wrote Is what you are saying that Eudora 8 isn't Eudora at all; it's Thunderbird with a Eudora hood ornament? Yes, that's what we're saying. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Eudora in Vista
At 03:25 PM 07/30/2008 -0400, gerald wrote i do not seem to have an attachments folder in vista. xp had programsqualcomeudoraattachments. is there one? i searched the c drive and cannot find a folder with that name. The name of the folder is attach--not attachments. Try that. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Using a non-default browser
At 10:43 AM 06/20/2008 -0400, Tony B wrote Ah. Well, you didn't say anything about Eudora. Wasn't that discontinued years ago? Nono! Eudora is alive and well. :) Some of us like the controls in Eudora so we don't have viruses and html loading in our emails. I sort of assumed you needed this for web development, because I couldn't think of another reason you'd need to open a URL in different browsers. I would also love the ability to right click and choose the browser I wanted to open things with. I use Mozilla 1.7.3 as my default browser, as it is so much faster than Firefox. It is also far less a resource hog than Firefox. However, some links and apps won't work with it. So I do use Firefox when necessary. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] current support for Eudora ... user groups?? versions??
At 10:29 AM 06/19/2008 -0700, Elaine Zablocki wrote Reading these posts about a beta version coming out from the new owners makes me realize I need to find reliable support for the version I have, and want to keep using. Does anyone have a recommendation about users groups and/or listservs to support my current version of Eudora? http://www.listmoms.net/lists/#eudora-win http://www.listmoms.net/lists/#eudora-mac Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] current support for Eudora ... user groups?? versions??
At 04:09 PM 06/19/2008 -0400, Kyle R. Graybeal wrote My version says 7.1.09 That is the final version of real Eudora, available for free at: http://www.eudora.com/download/ It is stable. They are also offering an older version that was stable: 6.2.4 There were many problems with V7.0, and they are no longer offering that for download. Please read the Read me and the Release notes on the web site before you download. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?
At 01:03 PM 06/17/2008 -0400, Matthew Taylor wrote And if it (the software) still works, defined as doing what you need it to do, it should be possible to replace the hardware without replacing all the apps, etc. The problem is that some of my software won't work on Vista. I've tried it on other machines. My biggest complaint is all the problems that Eudora/Vista present--even the latest version of Eudora. Parts of my web page software work and parts don't. Those are ones I've tried. So how do I replace the hardware and still use software that I've paid good money for over the years? I don't use IE at all, but am hearing that new releases of that aren't working well on anything BUT Vista. It would just be nice if we didn't have to keep replacing things all the time. To me, it looks like the game is played: Buy MS OS--whatever the latest version. Use all MS products on it (browsers, email programs, Office). Repeat about every 3 years. My son is pushing me to buy a Mac. Is the situation the same with them? I see no reason to switch to a more expensive system if I have to keep replacing them too. I just traded in my 10 y/o vehicle for something more economical. But it still used the same gas, I could still get service on it, and mainly it still got me where I wanted to go. Imagine if everyone had to buy a new car every few years because the old one was obselete! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista? speaking of eudora..
At 03:30 PM 06/17/2008 -0700, mike wrote Sorry...*where* you put attachments? In the email? Eudora has always separated attachments from the email and stored them in a separate file. Those of us who are used to that prefer it and don't want our attachments stored with the emails. I think T-bird/new Eudora does not store the attachments separately. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista? speaking of eudora..
At 03:02 PM 06/17/2008 -0700, mike wrote Eudora was taken over by the folks at thunderbird, has anyone tried out the beta? I see no plain dates on the site, so I'm not sure if they are actively working on it still. The WinEudora list is not recommending it. They recommend sticking with Eudora 7.1, which is free now. There are many features missing from the T-bird version that some Eudora users really want. They're describing it as Thunderbird with a skin to resemble Eudora. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?
At 08:35 PM 06/17/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote Will things slow down now? Or will Apple decide that this rapid pace is better for them? Thanks for that info, Tom. It sounds like Apple has decided to play the game too. Can you imagine a market share if someone ever decided to build a good machine and support it for more than a few years? Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?
At 10:22 PM 06/16/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote Don't be a jerk Mike. Lots of folks run old software for good reasons. I have Mac clients using software that was discontinued 15 years ago. There are those who can afford to replace software every time a new version comes out. There are young gamers who will not mind doing this. There are folks who need the latest for business reasons. Then there are the rest of us, who are just home users and happy with the word processors, spreadsheets, email programs, graphic programs, AV programs and browsers that run well on the machines we have. We get no kick out of learning a brand new OS whenever something comes out. However, many times we are forced to upgrade hardware to keep up with the changes in browsers or AV programs because they are such 'hogs'. It would make me very happy to be able to continue using what I already have...at least until the hardware breaks down! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction
At 04:53 PM 06/05/2008 -0400, Ranbo wrote After reading this thread, wondering if AVG might be what is slowing down my browsing, mainly on FireFox, but probably also some on IE? I had a program update on 7.5 this week, and my computer is now booting far faster than it has been since the previous update. I recall this happening a few times before (I've been using Free AVG for several years). After some program updates, my machine was slow to boot. Then the next update seemed to fix some problem and booting would appear to go back to normal. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] failure notice
At 04:11 PM 06/02/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote My posts to the list are bouncing. Anybody else with such problems? It's pretty bad when the list owner can't get msgs to the group. :) Most likely an AOL problem. Even if that's not true, it's always a good bet to blame AOL. I run a few lists on Yahoo, and will say I have more freaky problems with bouncing AOL members than any other ISP. I think they must live in a world of their own. Yes, I do know you're not using an AOL address, but obviously they don't like your ISP for some reason today. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] AVG
At 05:22 PM 05/06/2008 -0400, Richard P. wrote Have them upgrade to AVG Free 8.0. AVG puts this warning up every time they do a major upgrade. The links they provide tend to steer you toward the pay product but you can find the free version if you dig around a bit. I upgraded this afternoon. The only problem I had was installing their optional AVG Security Toolbar which includes its mandatory Yahoo toolbar. While I don't mind using Yahoo as a search engine, with this new version, I have yet to find a way to delete its search history. I ended up modifying the installation to lose the toolbars and just keep AVG. For them, just un-check it during the setup. Here's a direct link: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download?prd=afe Richard P. Like we NEED toolbars??? Thanks for the warning. I've still not gotten a pop-up warning from AVG. I assume I will at some point. Either that or I'll find out when it won't download virus updates. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Slate website
At 04:25 PM 04/09/2008 -0400, Fred Holmes wrote Connected via Cox Cable. Using Mozilla. Yes, I know it's out of date, but I like its interface. Fred Holmes I'm still using Mozilla also as my default browser. Firefox takes forever to load, but there's some sites that I can't use with Mozilla and then I have to open Firefox. Other programs I use regularly load very quickly. Don't bother telling me to use IE--I won't. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Updater Mess [Was: Apple Now #1]
At 03:03 PM 04/05/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote If apple wants to communicate why not do it the normal expected way via email? I already said no to them that time, now I have to do it again? An updater is not for communication, it's for updating, I'm just commenting it would be nice if they listened. Why bother asking for my email if they are going to use the updater to 'communicate' ? You really think spam is better? Don't we constantly warn people not to download and install software offered to then in email? I think the updater route is better, safer, and much more efficient. If someone at dinner asks you more than once if you want a second slice of apple pie do you slam the table and storm off in a huff? You objection seems petulant to me. Should Apple be required to keep a database of refusenicks? No, but consumers should ALWAYS have the option to opt in rather than opt out. Leave the stupid check boxes _unchecked_ unless someone opts to check them when installing updates. Having all the boxes checked automatically is pushy marketing...something I will always shy away from. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] In the market for a mouse
At 02:18 PM 03/31/2008 -0400, Ralph wrote My new (2-year old) MacBook Pro touchpad is driving me crazy. It had been my intention to work with it until I got it down-cold, but I'm ready to hang it up. I have to do a lot of right-clicking while working with Win-XP and when I do the three-finger click, the cursor sometimes jumps to another part of the screen. I doubt there's any work-around - I think the answer is to just get a windows compatible mouse. Any suggestions? Ralph I LOVE my Logitech Trak Ball. Have one for all of my machines, and have replaced one already as I wore it out (over about 3 yrs). Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] In the market for a mouse
At 03:11 PM 03/31/2008 -0400, Matthew Taylor wrote Don't get a mouse - get a trackball, specifically this one: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/166cl=u s,en That's the one I have also. I'd had trouble with hands/fingers until I got this one. It's also quite controllable for doing graphics. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CGUYS.ORG Footer Updated
At 05:50 PM 02/16/2008 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote Please at least put enough of the link that it shows in the message as an active hyperlink. I can't put a hyperlink in a text-only message. Not even if you type: http://cguys.org/ ? Sue * For information about the list, managing your list subscription, list rules, * * list archives, privacy policy, calmness, and a member map go to CGUYS.ORG. *
Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!
At 06:57 AM 02/09/2008 -0800, Paul Meyer wrote Any Doctor Who fans following Torchwood? (I know it's OT but what about all that indecipherable obscureness about Philadelphia and a (?) pig. I am not even going to ask what an iggle is.) I think an iggle is a type of bird only found in PA. :) Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MS Yahoo!
At 10:49 AM 02/09/2008 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote Iggle = Eagle in Philadelphian. and we did not even get to the tough stuff... How do you respond to Wid or widout? Definitely Wid! My husband used to mow the lawnd every week also. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Vista Makes Photographers Cry
At 06:35 PM 11/01/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote Why won't cameras work with Vista? Are they talking here about the actual camera files, or are they talking about the camera software that one is encouraged to install? I don't use camera software. Just hook the camera to the computer and grab the files off the camera drive, whatever they are, and save them as I want them saved. Am I missing something? This magazine found that your method just hook the camera to the computer and grab the files off the camera drive doesn't work with some unspecified number of cameras they tested with Vista. The magazine used the word many, but our Vista fans don't know what that word means. Are you or the article saying that Vista won't read files that are on the camera? If it will display them, I can simply move them, right? Are you saying that Vista won't recognize files from a camera plugged into a USB port? I don't know enough about the way the cameras are 'supposed' to work. I only deal with files. I don't even have camera software installed on this machine. I find no need for it. I certainly don't know enough to get into a debate. I'm simply wondering if my camera won't work on a Vista machine. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] I HATE FLASH!! And I love Flash.
At 12:55 PM 10/23/2007 -0400, Richard P. wrote I couldn't agree with you more. Here is the worst offender I have had the misfortune to use: http://www.saccuccihonda.com/ Their home page consists of nothing but several Flash animations. I tried opening up all the flash animations and finally gave up after it took so long to download each one. It is a well known Honda dealership and I never could find the extended warranty department until I Googled for a direct link. It has gotten to the point that when a Flash shows up as the first page of a browser without an option to bypass it, I just find another source for my information. Richard P. Amen to that! I do the same if there's any other options. Try telling some of these webmasters that! I've suffered through some pages like that, in order to find a contact address. The 'sales' dept is always a good bet! Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] I HATE FLASH!! And I love Flash.
At 10:42 AM 10/23/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote Flash is OK for YouTube. It's wonderful for ads, since I use Flashblock. Now I'm not distracted with flashing and blinking ads. That raises an entirely different issue. If you take the content is it okay for you to block the ads? If you don't like the ads maybe you should go somewhere else for your content? I pay good money every year for access (for instance) to the NYTimes special features. I don't think I should have to look at and load ads on a site that I'm already paying for. I do block ads, but I can't block the Java content on their site that takes forever to load (and really p* me off). I have the software to solve the puzzles--I don't need to have their stooopid Java on the site. Many of our (members) requests to put up a simple link falls on deaf ears. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] I HATE FLASH!! And I love Flash.
At 05:18 PM 10/22/2007 -0400, b_s-wilk wrote Trash with FLASH. My sentiments exactly. I don't use the computer for visual amusement. If I want that, I turn on the TV. Or better yet--go to the movies. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
At 06:37 PM 10/02/2007 -0400, Robert wrote These were a snug pocket for watches on the right side of pants just underneath the belt -- all men's pants had them until about 1955. My father reluctantly had to switch to a wristwatch when the watch pocket was removed from pants. Is THAT what that little pocket is for??? I always wondered! My jeans still all have that pocket, and I've never found anything to fit in it! Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
At 10:19 AM 10/03/2007 -0400, Harvey Simon wrote Just one question, Sue. Do you ever try to reach anyone on their cell phone? Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. Only if I know they're a regular user. Or if I've been given that number to reach them. I'm sitting here now reading my TracFone instructions. It plainly says: Airtime units are used when you access your voice mail or retrieve voice mail messages from your TracFone. So I guess it depends on the phone/plan one has. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
