Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:57:15AM +0100, François Pons wrote: > Yes, but not with too old version provided package are well done (no > conflicts on file, not supported yet but will be added in a future > release, maybe for 9.1). Between the same major releases (e.g. 9.0 -> 9.1)? > For merging .r

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Le lun 20/01/2003 à 18:35, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 03:50:46PM +0100, Daouda LO wrote: > > > I thought we have a rpmdrake feature that diffs the rpmnew file with > > > the current and asks for a merge? no? > > > > Yes bu

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 03:50:46PM +0100, Daouda LO wrote: > > I thought we have a rpmdrake feature that diffs the rpmnew file with > > the current and asks for a merge? no? > > Yes but DrakX does not have this feature. And as far as I know > rpmdrake is n

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 11:57:54PM +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: > Ben Reser wrote: > > >In this situation either way you go you'll run into issues. If you > >replace config files, you'll have unhappy people complaining that their > >configs were ovewritten and that they would have worken just fine

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Salut je n'arrive pas à me désabonner du forum. J'ai suivi la procédure qui m'avait été indiquée...sans succès Voulez vous me sortir de la liste de distribution SVP? --- Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On 14 Jan 2003 06:04:19 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 14, 2003 22:32, D F wrote: > I'm sorry to intrude on a running thread. > > What I hear both of you, Pierre Fortin and Lyvim Xaphir, saying > is very much alike in most every respect. I think I see a > compromise position, here. Firstly, a

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm sorry to intrude on a running thread. What I hear both of you, Pierre Fortin and Lyvim Xaphir, saying is very much alike in most every respect. I think I see a compromise position, here. Firstly, a way that is respectful of the good points th

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 08:00, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On 14 Jan 2003 06:04:19 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 10:56, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > > > Respectfully, then WHY did Mdk add the 3rd option (2nd upgrade method) > > > -- if upgrades are so bad, Mdk s

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On 14 Jan 2003 06:04:19 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 10:56, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > Respectfully, then WHY did Mdk add the 3rd option (2nd upgrade method) > > -- if upgrades are so bad, Mdk should have removed the existing one, > > not added a 2nd one..

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I didn't care until 3 weeks ago when I got to this machine which gave > problems. If a potential windows switched had tried, they would have given > up, and probably not tried again. > > The problem is that even though most of the CD could be read on the

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 10:56, Pierre Fortin wrote: > Respectfully, then WHY did Mdk add the 3rd option (2nd upgrade method) -- > if upgrades are so bad, Mdk should have removed the existing one, not > added a 2nd one... You misunderstand. The objective is not to eliminate or deprecate upgrades;

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 11:01, Luca Olivetti wrote: > Well, I don't think that an "install only, no upgrade possible" policy > is acceptable. So far you're the only one that has presented "install only" as an official policy. My suggestion was to present a base case for comparison against upgrade

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 03:50:46PM +0100, Daouda LO wrote: > I thought we have a rpmdrake feature that diffs the rpmnew file with > the current and asks for a merge? no? Yes but DrakX does not have this feature. And as far as I know rpmdrake is not supported for upgrading between versions. I thi

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 05:01:48PM +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > Well, I don't think that an "install only, no upgrade possible" policy > > is acceptable. An upgrade should work as well as a new install. > > Hopefully you're not right: it seems that urpmi

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, andre wrote: > > > On Friday 10 January 2003 20:29, Gerard Patel wrote: > > > At 12:01 PM 1/10/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > My guess is that Mandrake switched to Shorewall because > > > the config files are way easier to change b

supermount (WAS: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.)

On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Maybe making a bugzilla entry would be better, marking it a high > priority, attach the patches, and have people vote/comment on it every > so often ... There was an entry, but someone closed it when I posted the patches here. I think we should be car

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Danny Tholen wrote: > I do not think that works (tried that before). He is very specific about what > mails he reads (or at least replies to). And sometimes this leads to patches > being forgotten/not applied. > I think he knows the andreys patches fix it and guess he will eventually apply > th

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

I do not think that works (tried that before). He is very specific about what mails he reads (or at least replies to). And sometimes this leads to patches being forgotten/not applied. I think he knows the andreys patches fix it and guess he will eventually apply them. It is only frustrating tha

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

> Anyway, how does debian handle this mess? (I'm asking because debian > users usually brag about how they only need to install once) Right, this, and how it is easy to type "apt-get install foobar" ;-) First, since Debian has more expert users than Mandrake, they are able to handle the problem

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Thomas Backlund wrote: From: "Michael Scherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you type './MakeCD --help', the optio that regulates disksize states: -- discsize Select a custom disc size (default 68100). that default translates to 649.5MB Not my experience - the Coooker MkCd discsize

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught, Beta suggestions

On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 00:21, Leon Brooks wrote: > On Saturday 11 January 2003 12:02 am, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:57:24 -0500 Sascha Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 beta1 is out on some mirrors. > > Glad to see it a little earlier.

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Saturday 11 January 2003 07:47 am, Jason Straight wrote: > Man this talk about iso size is petty Not for the dwindling number of people without 700MB-capable burners. I wouldn't complain but 9.0 was 2.5x700MB CDs, would have been just as easy to make it (say) 3x600MB or 2x650MB + 1x500MB. Ch

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Saturday 11 January 2003 02:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > Johannesburg has 1600 ADSL points available, everything else is analog, > ISDN or very expensive "Diginet" (aka R3000/month for a 64kb line before > ISP costs). Sounds suspiciously like Perth. (-: Luckily, Telstra slipped up and it is st

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Saturday 11 January 2003 12:16 am, Götz Waschk wrote: > Am Freitag, 10. Januar 2003, 11:02:35 Uhr MET, schrieb Pierre Fortin: >> 0**. ISOs created for post-standard 700MB CDs (this is like trying to >> write 2MB on *any* 1.44 floppy drive ever manufactured) excommunicated >> all users who didn't

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught - ISO sizes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 11 January 2003 07:19 pm, Jay DeKing wrote: > I've never had any trouble reading 700MB CDs, with any drive, and in fact I > was not aware that this problem existed. However, I prefer the 640MB max > ISOs. Why? Because even with the new driv

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught - ISO sizes

On Saturday 11 January 2003 08:23 pm, D F honored me with this communique: > On January 11, 2003 10:17, Thomas Backlund wrote: > > From: "Götz Waschk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Do we really want a distro that will install on fewer > > > > machines than Windows XP, Redhat 8.1, SuSE 8.2, Lycor

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:03:39 -0800 Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ben, I've been using UNIX systems since the 70s, MINIX when Linus announced Linux, and Linux exclusively since RH4.1 -- My post was not intended to get help or condescending responses; it was intended to shed light on some co

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Ben Reser wrote: In this situation either way you go you'll run into issues. If you replace config files, you'll have unhappy people complaining that their configs were ovewritten and that they would have worken just fine. If you don't then you'll have people with issues because of their config

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 05:01:48PM +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: > Well, I don't think that an "install only, no upgrade possible" policy > is acceptable. An upgrade should work as well as a new install. > Hopefully you're not right: it seems that urpmi is approaching apt in > functionality, making

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

> I have installed Mandrake 8.2 on a P233 with an 6 year old, crappy,generic > 24x reader and had no problems at all! oops. meant 9.0. Sorry. Damian

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

> I don't know any other software company that ships their official, > commercial software distribution on CDs>650MB. I had just take the first CD that was on my desk : Starcraft Brood War /home/misc $ df | grep cdrom /dev/cdrom684M 684M 0 100% /mnt/cdrom Date back to 98. I have

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

> I can guarantee you they would either > 1)Ship 2 CDs > 2)Place an offer with the CD to send you a replacement if you can't read > it > > Office 2000 didn't ship on two 700MB CDs (probably would have made it), it > shipped on 3 CDs each less than 650MB. It would not have fit on two 700MB CD anyw

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Saturday 11 January 2003 15:03, Damian Gatabria wrote: > > I don't know any other software company that ships their official, > > commercial software distribution on CDs>650MB. > > In my country, a lot of artists compose albums of nearly 80min, and > this requires 700MB CD's. Magazines also inc

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, John Danielson, II wrote: > There are three ways around this that I can think of: None of which are necesarry on another distro, or with windows. Remember, there is competition out there, to deliver a *product*, not a hobby. > > Any burner can also read, and read CDs as big

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 16:40, Pierre Fortin wrote: They have been happening since I first upgraded to 9.0 on a fresh 8.2 Have you considered that THAT may be the center of your problem? I have seldom heard of an upgrade going well. Now bug fixes, normal updates, and that

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On 11 Jan 2003 03:18:04 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 16:40, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > They have been happening since I first upgraded to 9.0 on a fresh 8.2 > > Have you considered that THAT may be the center of your problem? I have > seldom heard of an

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Buchan Milne wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] G?tz Waschk wrote: Do we really want a distro that will install on fewer machines than Windows XP, Redhat 8.1, SuSE 8.2, Lycoris, Lindows and Solaris 9 Intel??? No, but you still can install from network or hd. True, but c

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Am Samstag, 11. Januar 2003, 13:18:23 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne: > > This was already discussed on this list. I have to disagree, 700MB CDs > > are really common. I've never met a writer that could't write up > > to 703 MB on the cheap 700 MB CD-R. > It's not the writer's that are the issue, it

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Götz Waschk wrote: > This was already discussed on this list. I have to disagree, 700MB CDs > are really common. I've never met a writer that could't write up > to 703 MB on the cheap 700 MB CD-R. It's not the writer's that are the issue, it's the millions of CD-

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On 11 Jan 2003, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:28, et wrote: > > I agree with Pierre, the standard _Needs_ to be "what is ubiquitous". while > > some might argue the floppy, there are still a $hit load of cdreaders out > > there that won't handle 700meg cdroms > > There was a vote

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Jason Straight wrote: > > > > > > How exactly are you defining ubiquitous? > > > > > > Austin > > > > Yeah, I guess Mandrake and Linux are ubiquitous too, since Windows is what > > everyone has why have Linux at all? > > Oops, had that backwards but you know what I mean. :) >

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On 10 Jan 2003, Austin Acton wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:04, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > 1.44 & 650MB are ubiquitous; 700MB and DVD > > aren't yet. > > I dunno about the rest of the world, but if I go to > http://www.futureshop.ca right now (Canadian equivalent of BestBuy), and > look up record

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, andre wrote: > On Friday 10 January 2003 20:29, Gerard Patel wrote: > > At 12:01 PM 1/10/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > > My guess is that Mandrake switched to Shorewall because > > the config files are way easier to change by program. > > Also Bastille is doing additionnal securi

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Jason Straight wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > If you have an affected drive, Mandrake 9.0 was a nightmare. I say this > > after having done about 10 intalls on machines which were fine, not > > seeing what all the fuss is about, to discover it r

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Luca Olivetti wrote: > David Walser wrote: > > > autofs doesn't work very well for removable media > > I'm currently using it on a samba server (actually I've been using it > for a long time) and a cd changer and it works very well, maybe it > doesn't work well for floppies if

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:28, et wrote: > I agree with Pierre, the standard _Needs_ to be "what is ubiquitous". while > some might argue the floppy, there are still a $hit load of cdreaders out > there that won't handle 700meg cdroms There was a vote available on the Mandrakeclub site a while bac

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 16:40, Pierre Fortin wrote: > They have been happening since I first upgraded to 9.0 on a fresh 8.2 Have you considered that THAT may be the center of your problem? I have seldom heard of an upgrade going well. Now bug fixes, normal updates, and that sort of thing on the s

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 18:47, Jason Straight wrote: > Man this talk about iso size is petty, it's the price to pay for progress, > deal with it. Should distribute on tapes? 360K floppies? 720K floppies? > 1.44mb floppies? 650MB CD's, 700MB CD's? and in 5 years do you think they'll > be using CD's

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

--- Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Luca Olivetti wrote on Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at > 12:46:24AM +0100 : > > David Walser wrote: > > >autofs doesn't work very well for removable media > > It does if you set the timeout to be very low. No, I

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luca Olivetti wrote on Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 12:46:24AM +0100 : > David Walser wrote: > >autofs doesn't work very well for removable media It does if you set the timeout to be very low. > for a long time) and a cd changer and it works very well, maybe

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Saturday 11 January 2003 01:38, et wrote: > Jason, How exactly are you defining ubiquitous? in this sentence i am not > sure if I understand _your_ meaning; "Yeah, I guess Mandrake and Linux are > ubiquitous too, since Windows is what everyone has why have Linux at all?" > > ubiquitous (to me at

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Saturday 11 January 2003 01:15, Austin Acton wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:04, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > 1.44 & 650MB are ubiquitous; 700MB and DVD > > aren't yet. > > I dunno about the rest of the world, but if I go to > http://www.futureshop.ca right now (Canadian equivalent of BestBuy), an

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Jason, How exactly are you defining ubiquitous? in this sentence i am not sure if I understand _your_ meaning; "Yeah, I guess Mandrake and Linux are ubiquitous too, since Windows is what everyone has why have Linux at all?" ubiquitous (to me at least) usually means "is _everywhere" and I usally

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Saturday 11 January 2003 01:15, Austin Acton wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:04, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > 1.44 & 650MB are ubiquitous; 700MB and DVD > > aren't yet. > > I dunno about the rest of the world, but if I go to > http://www.futureshop.ca right now (Canadian equivalent of BestBuy), an

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 10 January 2003 07:24 pm, Jason Straight wrote: > On Friday 10 January 2003 07:15 pm, Austin Acton wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:04, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > 1.44 & 650MB are ubiquitous; 700MB and DVD > > > aren't yet. > > > > I dunno

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 10 January 2003 07:15 pm, Austin Acton wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:04, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > 1.44 & 650MB are ubiquitous; 700MB and DVD > > aren't yet. > > I dunno about the rest of the world, but if I go to > http://www.futureshop.c

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On 10 Jan 2003 19:15:25 -0500 Austin Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:04, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > 1.44 & 650MB are ubiquitous; 700MB and DVD > > aren't yet. > > I dunno about the rest of the world, but if I go to > http://www.futureshop.ca right now (Canadian equivalen

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

I agree with Pierre, the standard _Needs_ to be "what is ubiquitous". while some might argue the floppy, there are still a $hit load of cdreaders out there that won't handle 700meg cdroms > OK... let's take your non-petty argument farther... what kind of market > share will Mdk have if they relea

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 19:04, Pierre Fortin wrote: > 1.44 & 650MB are ubiquitous; 700MB and DVD > aren't yet. I dunno about the rest of the world, but if I go to http://www.futureshop.ca right now (Canadian equivalent of BestBuy), and look up recordable media, there are 19 types of 700MB CD-R/CD-RW

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Friday 10 January 2003 20:29, Gerard Patel wrote: > At 12:01 PM 1/10/03 -0500, you wrote: > >ShoreWall is (IMHO) awful. I install it only because I > >think it was required by some other package, but I > >"chkconfig --del" it, and keep a copy of Bastille rpms > >handy to do the job. > > My gues

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:47:32 -0500 Jason Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 10 January 2003 12:41 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Who cares about the media, it's trivial in cost to the devices > > required to read the media. > > > > Esp

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 10 January 2003 12:41 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > Who cares about the media, it's trivial in cost to the devices required > to read the media. > > Especially consider that a user buying a boxed set (AFIAK, boxed sets > were also 700MB) shouldn'

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

David Walser wrote: autofs doesn't work very well for removable media I'm currently using it on a samba server (actually I've been using it for a long time) and a cd changer and it works very well, maybe it doesn't work well for floppies if you manually eject it before autofs has unmounted i

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 10 January 2003 11:09 am, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > that supermount suckness, try disable it. I think a lot of people agree on supermount suckness, why doesn't mandrake remove it? :) - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetku

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

--- Luca Olivetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > scott chevalley wrote: > > > > > I'm sure this is a stupid question, but where can > I find info on setting > > up automount under MDK? > > install the package > >urpmi autofs > > read the man pages > >man auto.master >man 5 autofs >

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Friday 10 January 2003 23:10, Pierre Fortin wrote: > The point is that if Mandrake wants to grow its user base, it shouldn't > make things more difficult than necessary for the sake of trying to save a > few pennies by cramming the ISOs to the point where a lot of people won't > be able to burn

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Pierre Fortin wrote: ~snip~ and if it's lng, some ISOs that some non-cooker regulars to hammer on would be helpful... well with rc1 up on the mirrors that will be happening...now just hope they use bugzilla. ;) Jaqui

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

scott chevalley wrote: I'm sure this is a stupid question, but where can I find info on setting up automount under MDK? install the package urpmi autofs read the man pages man auto.master man 5 autofs edit the sample config files (/etc/auto.master, /etc/auto.misc) and then service

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:49:21 +0100 Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 10 January 2003 17:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:57:24 -0500 Sascha Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 beta1 is out on some mirrors. > > > >

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Luca Olivetti wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: RH has a working solution (automount), and they're not supposed to be a desktop distro (or weren't). the funny thing is that automount, once configured, works perfectly under mandrake too. Bye I'm sure this is a stupid question, but where can I fin

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Buchan Milne wrote: RH has a working solution (automount), and they're not supposed to be a desktop distro (or weren't). the funny thing is that automount, once configured, works perfectly under mandrake too. Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if y

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On 10 Jan 2003 11:13:30 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 11:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > This is NOT a support request for 9.0 -- > > ^ > > it is a list of reasons I have been VERY unhappy with 9.0 (the product > > of > >

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:50:01 +0200 Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been working on a physical project all day, and I must say that if the rest of this thread is as civil as what I've read so far, I *am* impressed and encouraged by the responses... but the main point is being missed:

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

At 12:01 PM 1/10/03 -0500, you wrote: >ShoreWall is (IMHO) awful. I install it only because I >think it was required by some other package, but I >"chkconfig --del" it, and keep a copy of Bastille rpms >handy to do the job. > My guess is that Mandrake switched to Shorewall because the config fi

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Steffen Barszus wrote: 7. Sound stopped working (lsof showed several apps accessing sound) -- rebooted to fix. Where are for sure other ways. I can't imagine that your often reboots are really neccessary. Both of you have been lucky (at least you *can* reboot or don't need to). I often have

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Le Vendredi 10 Janvier 2003 18:01, Chuck Shirley a écrit : > On Friday 10 January 2003 11:53, David Walser wrote: > >--- Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:57:24 -0500 Sascha Noyes > >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 be

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Friday 10 January 2003 18:41, Buchan Milne wrote: > Steffen Barszus wrote: > > Please try and trim some of the stuff you reply to ... I had trouble > finding your comments after I hit reply .. > Sorry for that > Who cares about the media, it's trivial in cost to the devices required > to read

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 11:47, Brook Humphrey wrote: > Well I dont experiance this but I have used many ac97 sound cards, Hercules > game fortisimo II and III, and cretive labs sound blaster. And none of them > will record sound under kde. It simply does not work. By the way the mic does > work a

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

Le Vendredi 10 Janvier 2003 17:47, Brook Humphrey a écrit : > On Friday 10 January 2003 08:09 am, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 5. Installation of LinModem support was more troublesome than in 8.2 -- > > > while not delivered in a Mandrake distro, at le

Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.

J. Greenlees wrote: > ~snip~ > hmm, maybe I'm lucky then only $50.00+14.5%tx CDN / month, no matter how > much data transfer I have for my connection ( eth0 and cable modem ) Yes, there is a world outside north-america and western europe ;-). Johannesburg has 1600 ADSL points available, everythin

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Buchan Milne wrote: ~snip~ And no, downloading 4 ISO images at R1.50/MB (approx $0.18 or so) is not a feasible answer to people who have bought sets. And also when the rest of the ISO are mirrored around (and as such are free to download for me). And I wouldn't try and download the 2.6GB over a

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David Walser wrote: >> >>Even if you read the errata >> >>http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3#gateway > > > Yep. Box I was working on has cable (eth0 connected > to cable modem) for internet access and ethernet > (eth1) LAN. I did notice the wrongly ask for a > gateway problem, and

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--- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Walser wrote: > > --- Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, the Connection Sharing in 9.0 didn't work at > all > > when I tried it. I had to grab the files that 8.1 > > Connection Sharing made. > > > Even if you read the

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Steffen Barszus wrote: Please try and trim some of the stuff you reply to ... I had trouble finding your comments after I hit reply .. > On Friday 10 January 2003 17:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: >>0**. ISOs created for post-standard 700MB CDs (this is like trying to >>write 2MB on *any* 1.44 floppy d

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Chuck Shirley wrote: > On Friday 10 January 2003 11:53, David Walser wrote: > > ShoreWall is (IMHO) awful. I install it only because I > think it was required by some other package, but I > "chkconfig --del" it, and keep a copy of Bastille rpms > handy to do the job. > You might want to recon

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David Walser wrote: > --- Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah, the Connection Sharing in 9.0 didn't work at all > when I tried it. I had to grab the files that 8.1 > Connection Sharing made. Even if you read the errata http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3#gateway

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Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No the ac97 was built in sound on both via and sis motherboards running athlon > xp's. the sound blaster live and game fortisimos were new pci cards. > > And the kde built in sound recorder does not record either. sounds weird, i got a couple of ac9

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 10 January 2003 08:55 am, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Well I dont experiance this but I have used many ac97 sound cards, > > Hercules game fortisimo II and III, and cretive labs sound blaster. And

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On Friday 10 January 2003 11:53, David Walser wrote: >--- Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:57:24 -0500 Sascha Noyes >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 beta1 is out >> on some mirrors. > >That can't be. 9.1's gotta be a goo

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Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well I dont experiance this but I have used many ac97 sound cards, Hercules > game fortisimo II and III, and cretive labs sound blaster. And none of them > will record sound under kde. It simply does not work. By the way the mic does > work as the so

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--- Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:57:24 -0500 Sascha Noyes > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 beta1 is out > on some mirrors. That can't be. 9.1's gotta be a good ways away, and cooker's a mess right now. > 3b. shorewall

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On Friday 10 January 2003 17:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:57:24 -0500 Sascha Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 beta1 is out on some mirrors. > > This is NOT a support request for 9.0 -- > ^

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 10 January 2003 08:09 am, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 5. Installation of LinModem support was more troublesome than in 8.2 -- > > while not delivered in a Mandrake distro, at least ensuring that a n

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Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>5. Installation of LinModem support was more troublesome than in 8.2 -- >>while not delivered in a Mandrake distro, at least ensuring that a new >>distro does not make installation of LinModem s/w more difficult is >>important

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On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 11:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: > I don't want to belabor the point; but Mdk has embarked on a slippery > slope with the release of 9.0 IMO. 9.1 will either restore or kill my > enthusiasm for future Mdk releases... I have to agree here. Mandrake is what kept me trying Linux, an

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From: "Sascha Noyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 beta1 is out on some mirrors. > Yep, and you find the postings about it on the Mandrake website... this I found on one primary mirrors... 01/09/2003 04:36732,463,1

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Am Freitag, 10. Januar 2003, 11:02:35 Uhr MET, schrieb Pierre Fortin: > 0**. ISOs created for post-standard 700MB CDs (this is like trying to > write 2MB on *any* 1.44 floppy drive ever manufactured) excommunicated all > users who didn't own standards-extending writers. This was already discussed

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On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 11:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: > This is NOT a support request for 9.0 -- > ^ > it is a list of reasons I have been VERY unhappy with 9.0 (the product of Hello everyone, this is my first post to the Cooker list. Pierre, I'd like to ask a per

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Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 5. Installation of LinModem support was more troublesome than in 8.2 -- > while not delivered in a Mandrake distro, at least ensuring that a new > distro does not make installation of LinModem s/w more difficult is > important to winning new users. this

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On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:57:24 -0500 Sascha Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 beta1 is out on some mirrors. This is NOT a support request for 9.0 -- ^ it is a list of reasons I have been VERY unhappy with 9.0 (the product of

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