[Cooker] XFree86 patch for bug 5906

2003-09-28 Thread Hugues Fournier
I just want by this message to draw attention on the availability of a XFree86 approved patch for Bug 5906 (committed in XFree86 CVS tomorrow from the last news I got) Please see http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5906 Regards, Hugues Fournier

[Cooker] [Bug 6003] [Hardware] New: usb drivers are not stable

2003-09-28 Thread [janpietersollie]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6003 Product: Hardware Component: Hardware Summary: usb drivers are not stable Product: Hardware Version: 9.2-0.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED

[Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Warly
It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml, we should do it now. - What could we do to

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Jure Repinc
Warly wrote: - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? Well maybe a bit too many problems with mirrors. And the mirror list could be improved a bit (new looks, new mirrors added, old ones removed) And it would be nice to get beta testers start testing earlier and not too late when the

[Cooker] [Bug 5864] [suspend-scripts] suspend is no longer available in gnome menu

2003-09-28 Thread [mr]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5864 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Aimak Rokalno
This is my first day and the first post in this list :) - What could we do to improve 9.3/10.0 development. I believe that in this actual GNU/Linux distros market, like any other market, only those with exclusive or catching features may get popular and eventually successful. MandrakeClub is

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Reinsch
Hi! On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:19:44 +0200 Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? - What could we do to improve 9.3/10.0 development. - mdk seems to develop/change their own tools (Drak* - with the exception of urpmi and

[Cooker] Re: And next?

2003-09-28 Thread guran
Hi I will discuss drakconnect and my perceptions. This setup has two boxes, a firewall with Mdk 9.1 and a user box with different Linux distributions. Firewall setup. My firewall has a stable IP and many local DNS's. During setup I only have the right to setup one DNS server. The reason for

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Nora Etukudo
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Warly wrote: - Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs? No. I don't need ISO's at all during development. 'rsync'ing to a local server and installing via net from there is cheap, fast and reliable. I would like to see more focus on Mandrake AutoInstall.

Re: [Cooker] Re: And next?

2003-09-28 Thread guran
söndagen den 28 september 2003 13.23 skrev guran: Thus Mdk should have 'navigation plan' as in Navigare necesse est vivere non est necesse. To me this plan has to coincide with the plan from the user community, if you want them to cooperate in its fullfillment. Here is a discussion

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Francisco Alcaraz
What about a metadistro with a cdrom (in the future a dvdrom) runing Mandrake from the cd-driver? similar to Knoppix but with all the Mandrake goodies. Lot of people has started to use linux after a successfull Knoppix/Gnome-live cd experience. Regards Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain)

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2003 10:19 schrieb Warly: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? - the mirror situation - the mailinglists were eating mails (on all

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Scherer
On Sunday 28 September 2003 13:17, Michael Reinsch wrote: Hi! - some packages have a maintainer who is not really the maintainer of this package (i.e. most changes are done by someone else), so a bug report isn't assigned to the correct person. we all receive bugreport for all packages, but,

Re: [Cooker] How to write a Mandrake HOWTO ?

2003-09-28 Thread Leon Brooks
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:09, Austin wrote: Old corporate style is official and looks nice (use XML-related format or whatever), and can be edited with your favorite editor, but can't be transferred easily to the wiki, where most docs should reside IMHO. At the very least, it draws people to the

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Reinsch
Hi! On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:22:14 +0200 Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - How to have more contributors? Decreasing time consumption and power needed to participate. It was sometimes like fighting against windmills to get heared on the cooker list. Splitting up the lists could

[Cooker] Re: And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread David Walser
Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? the mirror situation, of course Also, a lot of MDK developers got heavy into bugfixing the last couple

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 13:48, Nora Etukudo a écrit : On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Warly wrote: - Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs? No. I don't need ISO's at all during development. 'rsync'ing to a local server and installing via net from there is cheap, fast and

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Robert L martin
- What was wrong in 9.2 development process? - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml, we should do it now. - What could we do to improve 9.3/10.0 development. - What should we do to improve the Wiki. - Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs? - What could we do,

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Warly wrote: - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? I think the targets for a release should be set much earlier in the process. Especially targets for nr of major bugs in the software to be released. Focus more on a small set of features that

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 14:46, Michael Reinsch a écrit : Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decreasing time consumption and power needed to participate. It was sometimes like fighting against windmills to get heared on the cooker list. Splitting up the lists could help here.

[Cooker] Some apps for next mandrake

2003-09-28 Thread Steffen Barszus
Hi ! I just want propose two apps for next mandrake. _Typo3_ This one is a full blown CMS. Its really nice, has a lot of possibilities. It has further some big references. http://www.typo3.org I have no clue how webapps are packaged. But it would be nice if one could just urpmi typo3 and

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 09:19, Warly wrote: - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? The beta/RC process is flawed as heavy development continues during the beta/RC process. If Mandrake tools have to change (new features, fix incorrect behaviour, etc) then they should be changed based on a set

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Nora Etukudo
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 03:05:48PM +0200, Pierre Jarillon wrote: This is not my opinion. Some problems are only found with a fresh install or an upgrade of a previous stable distribution. Well, I don't like upgrades, I do only fresh installs. Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Luca Olivetti
Michael Reinsch wrote: - some packages have a maintainer who is not really the maintainer of this package (i.e. most changes are done by someone else), so a bug report isn't assigned to the correct person. And sometimes they make gratuitous changes to the spec file without even testing that the

[Cooker] Gigabyte Realtek Audio Controller (was Re: Boot images)

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Altizer
Of course, I was not thinking when I sent this out and did not include specifics of the problem with the sound. Testing with XMMS: ALSA: No output to speakers. OSS: Normal playback but with interspersed and frequent garbled sound. Artsd (with OSS selected as Audio I/O): Works perfectly

[Cooker] [Bug 6004] [Installation] New: Installation locked changing sound driver at summary 9.2RC2

2003-09-28 Thread [jpmasius]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6004 Product: Installation Component: Installation Summary: Installation locked changing sound driver at summary 9.2RC2 Product: Installation Version: 1.847 Platform: PC

Re: [Cooker] Re: And next?

2003-09-28 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 13:23, guran a écrit : I will discuss drakconnect and my perceptions. I have a similar perception... The architecture of drakconnect must be rebuilt. I wish an extensive use of profiles. Examples: home eth0adslfirewall on

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Altizer
Michael Reinsch wrote: Hi! On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:22:14 +0200 Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - How to have more contributors? Decreasing time consumption and power needed to participate. It was sometimes like fighting against windmills to get heared on the cooker list.

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 09:19, Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? Similar to 9.1 - RC stage too early so loads of major stuff was fixed while

Re: [Cooker] kde-3.2-alpha2 for test.

2003-09-28 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le ven 26/09/2003 à 16:25, jokerman64 a écrit : On Friday 26 September 2003 14:16, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le jeu 25/09/2003 à 16:09, Laurent Montel a écrit : I compile all with --enable-debug=full = -g3 I don't know if this is related but quanta is pretty unusable ! I have a big 3000+

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 09:19, Warly wrote: BTW, I guess this thread is a good place to bring this in. I now think I actually understand the whole Red Hat / Fedora situation - RH are basically cutting the consumer desktop loose as a supported segment, and making it more of a community-supported,

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 14:05, Pierre Jarillon wrote: Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 13:48, Nora Etukudo a écrit : On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Warly wrote: - Should we have cooker snapshot ISOs? No. I don't need ISO's at all during development. 'rsync'ing to a local server

Re: [Cooker] screem-0.8.1

2003-09-28 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le sam 27/09/2003 à 21:16, Charles A Edwards a écrit : If anyone should be interested in using 0.8.1 I have made avaiable http://www.eslrahc.com/screem-0.8.1-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm I don't have syntax color highlighting with a PHP and CSS files ... (screem:2637): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file

Re: [Cooker] mplayer security problem

2003-09-28 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Samstag, 27. September 2003, 15:25:35 Uhr MET, schrieb Vincent Danen: Attached is the diff against the 0.91 version. This is all that is required to fix the problem? The only other diff between 0.91 and 0.92 is the changed version number. I'm afraid there could be more buffer overflow

[Cooker] Status of the kernel 2.6 in contrib

2003-09-28 Thread Laurent Saint-Michel
Hi, I tryed to install the kernel 2.6 on a fresh cooker, everything were okay except : 2:kernel-2.6.0-0.test5.1mdk## No module aic7xxx found for kernel 2.6.0-0.test5.1mdk No module aic7xxx found for kernel 2.6.0-0.test5.1mdk Why the module is

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Blindauer Emmanuel
Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 10:19, Warly a écrit : It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? Some problems with mirors mainly - We though a bit late in the 9.2

[Cooker] [Bug 6005] [harddrake] New: Change of sound driver efective in memory, but not on HDD

2003-09-28 Thread [jpmasius]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6005 Product: harddrake Component: harddrake Summary: Change of sound driver efective in memory, but not on HDD Product: harddrake Version: 9.2-16mdk Platform: PC

Re: [Cooker] Suggestion for program inclusion

2003-09-28 Thread Luca Berra
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:50:04AM -0300, Damian Gatabria wrote: I think it makes a great addition to mkisofs and bchunk. Tarball (8.1Kb) can be downloaded at: http://gregory.kokanosky.free.fr/v4/linux/nrg2iso.en.html Of course, when i say inclusion, i'm referring to 9.3/10.0. ;oP packaged it at

[Cooker] [Bug 6006] [Bugzilla] New: No password was sent to my email address so I had to force it by

2003-09-28 Thread [vatbier]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6006 Product: Bugzilla Component: Bugzilla Summary: No password was sent to my email address so I had to force it by Product: Bugzilla Version: 2.17.4 Platform: Other

Re: [Cooker] Some apps for next mandrake

2003-09-28 Thread Leon Brooks
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:39, Steffen Barszus wrote: I just want propose two apps for next mandrake. _Typo3_ _XFCE4 _ KDE 3.2 ('tis gunna be _awesome_ :-) Move NeverBall in from Contrib. Very addictive! I'd personally like to shovel at least half of Contrib into the main distro, but I can't

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le dim 28/09/2003 à 14:30, Michael Altizer a écrit : Michael Reinsch wrote: Hi! On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:22:14 +0200 Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - How to have more contributors? Decreasing time consumption and power needed to participate. It was sometimes

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Francisco Alcaraz wrote: What about a metadistro with a cdrom (in the future a dvdrom) runing Mandrake from the cd-driver? similar to Knoppix but with all the Mandrake goodies. # urpmi mklivecd # mklivecd livecd.iso # cdrecord dev=0,0,0 livecd.iso (of course, there is

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Diego Iastrubni
(I sent it once, but i beleave it was lost too deep inside another thread). I always see Mandrake as a desktop distro, so my wishes are from that side. mcc: * bring back capabilities for changing the lilo/grub theme * real support for linmodems (even if the drivers will not be on the d/l

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? I think compared to previous releases, there wasn't as much feature-planning (as

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread lamikr_mdk
Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml, we should do it now. How about

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote: (I sent it once, but i beleave it was lost too deep inside another thread). I always see Mandrake as a desktop distro, so my wishes are from that side. mcc: * bring back capabilities for changing the lilo/grub theme * real support for

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Emmanuel Moll
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 9:19 am, Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? For me, it was the relative closeness of it all. It would be nice to add

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Warly wrote: - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? I think the targets for a release should be set much earlier in the process. Especially targets for nr of major bugs in the software to be released. Focus more on a small set of features that

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Diego Iastrubni
, 28 2003, 20:46,Buchan Milne: * real support for linmodems (even if the drivers will not be on the d/l edition) LTmodem support is in Drakxtools, it *should* work if the ltmodem packages are included. I have provided packages and tested them (drakconnect still does some weird things

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Felix Miata
Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? I wasn't aware of it soon enough. Was the first beta announced on the expert list? If so, I missed it.

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Austin
Many of these ideas have been brought up, but I'm going to express my opinions with no regard for possible repetition. On 09/28/2003 04:19:44 AM, Warly wrote: - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? Too much change to kernel and drak tools during the rc phase. This happens every time.

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Scherer
* use also apt-get (with the same repositories, IMHO this can be done no?), let the user which app use to install rpms. IMHO it just wastes mirror space ... how many use apt? it doesn't matter, apt is patched to use hdlist in mdk :) -- Michaël Scherer

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Austin
On 09/28/2003 01:11:01 PM, Buchan Milne wrote: I have some work to do before I have an ISO that is better (easier to use, more GIS apps, much smaller ISO) than GIS-Knoppix. It would be nice to see someone contribute a GNOPPIX one, I will try and do a KNOPPIX-like one also, and some others are

[Cooker] [Bug 6007] [kdeadmin] New: SysV-Init Editor crashes with KUniqueApplication DCOP communication error

2003-09-28 Thread [vatbier]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6007 Product: kdeadmin Component: program Summary: SysV-Init Editor crashes with KUniqueApplication DCOP communication error Product: kdeadmin Version: 3.1-8mdk Platform:

[Cooker] [Bug 6008] [Hardware] New: Logitech QuickCam PRO 4000 USB webcam not workin in 9.2 RC2

2003-09-28 Thread [arne]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6008 Product: Hardware Component: Hardware Summary: Logitech QuickCam PRO 4000 USB webcam not workin in 9.2 RC2 Product: Hardware Version: 9.2-0.7mdk Platform: PC

[Cooker] [Bug 4721] [devfsd] Officejet won't print

2003-09-28 Thread [richtl]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4721 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|

[Cooker] [Bug 6009] [evolution] New: Dropdown date selectors crash evolution

2003-09-28 Thread [richtl]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6009 Product: evolution Component: evolution Summary: Dropdown date selectors crash evolution Product: evolution Version: 1.4.4-8mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status:

[Cooker] [Bug 5038] [Hardware] Officejet only prints in color

2003-09-28 Thread [richtl]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-28-09 18:27 --- Will try this on Monday. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Spencer
Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? Too many major bugs remained in the betas before rc's were started. IMHO, betas need to start a little bit

Re: [Cooker] And next ? - cooperation with major disk vendor?

2003-09-28 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
One thing I saw which could enhance the availablilty of Mandrake was to make an alliance with a major disk vendor, eg. Maxtor, to preinstalle mandrake on a number of disks - free of charge. I think this is what Lindows have done with Seagate for their 40 GB disks, and I see quite some potential

[Cooker] [Bug 6010] [apache2-common] New: ApacheBench does not work

2003-09-28 Thread [pitrou]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6010 Product: apache2-common Component: program Summary: ApacheBench does not work Product: apache2-common Version: 2.0.47-6mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status:

[Cooker] [Bug 6011] [kdebase-progs] New: Konqueror : bad rendering

2003-09-28 Thread [cpjc]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6011 Product: kdebase-progs Component: program Summary: Konqueror : bad rendering Product: kdebase-progs Version: 3.1.3-79mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status:

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3679 days Michael Reinsch wrote: Hi! On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:22:14 +0200 Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - How to have more contributors? Decreasing time consumption and power needed to participate. It was sometimes like fighting against windmills to get

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:39:33PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. Stop using the term RC. Recent rc versions are nothing but late betas, not even close to suitable for release. Go to

[Cooker] [Bug 6010] [apache2-common] ApacheBench does not work

2003-09-28 Thread [pitrou]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6010 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-28-09 18:44 --- Ok a little ethereal dump. I launch Ethereal on the ADSL interface and then try to ApacheBench www.mandrakelinux.com. Here it is : [EMAIL PROTECTED] data]# tethereal

[Cooker] [Bug 5556] [kdeartwork] No screensavers are installed in 9.2rc2

2003-09-28 Thread [aricou]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5556 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-28-09 18:54 --- For #7 I have tried with a fresh installation of 9.2 RC2, and retry after update to cooker and update to cooker. But they disspaear when switching back to Mandrake

[Cooker] [Bug 6012] [rpmdrake] New: rpmdrake doesn't finish sorting package names

2003-09-28 Thread [leon]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6012 Product: rpmdrake Component: program Summary: rpmdrake doesn't finish sorting package names Product: rpmdrake Version: 2.1-35mdk Platform: All OS/Version: All Status:

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread LE BERRE Daniel
Le dim 28/09/2003 à 21:38, Spencer a écrit : Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? Too many major bugs remained in the betas before rc's

[Cooker] [Bug 6010] [libapr0] ApacheBench does not work

2003-09-28 Thread [pitrou]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6010 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-28-09 19:04 --- After reverting to the version of libapr0 found on the Mandrake 9.1 CD (2.0.44-11mdk), it works. So I guess the bug is rather related to the APR library. --

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Damon Lynch
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 05:34, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Warly wrote: - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml, we should do it now. Please, this *must* be done. Why? Most people interested in the server development work will have

[Cooker] [Bug 6013] [urpmi] New: unable to force urpmi.update

2003-09-28 Thread [cpjc]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6013 Product: urpmi Component: program Summary: unable to force urpmi.update Product: urpmi Version: 4.4-37mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread lamikr_mdk
There *must* be a better way for contributors to gain a klama account. With the dramatic increase in packages and contributors, poor Lenny must be snowed under. I *almost* feel guilty bugging him:-) and all official and contrib files should be signed... It is a little bit scary situation to

[Cooker] [Bug 6011] [kdebase-progs] Konqueror : bad rendering

2003-09-28 Thread [manu]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6011 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-28-09 19:13 --- this bug is related to konqueror itself, not mandrake. Please close this bug here and open a new one at bugs.kde.org, provide your URL. You can add by the same time

Re: [Cooker] screem-0.8.1

2003-09-28 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:46:52 + FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have syntax color highlighting with a PHP and CSS files ... Can you try with http://www.eslrahc.com/screem-0.8.1-0.2mdk.cae.i586.rpm Charles -- Dyslexia means never having to say that you're ysror.

[Cooker] [Bug 6011] [kdebase-progs] Konqueror : bad rendering

2003-09-28 Thread [cpjc]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6011 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 19:39, Felix Miata wrote: 2-Software management should open one panel with 5 options instead of a submenu with 5 options. It should be an integrated suite, if not one simple app. Oh, for crying out loud, PLEASE STOP TROLLING THIS. It's not going to happen, the reasons

[Cooker] [Bug 6013] [urpmi] unable to force urpmi.update

2003-09-28 Thread [fpons]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6013 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-28-09 19:49 --- MD5SUM file management has not been linked to -f option, which is problably a bad idea in fact. You can use --no-md5sum added to avoid mirror problems related to md5sum

[Cooker] Re: newsgroup (was And next ?)

2003-09-28 Thread Frej Soya Rasmussen
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:47:45 +0300, lamikr_mdk wrote: Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement

[Cooker] [Bug 5979] [rpm] urpmi problem--strange output

2003-09-28 Thread [fpons]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5979 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Component|urpmi

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 01:19, Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml,

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 10:19, Warly a écrit : - What could we do, as a community, to increase the acceptance of mandrakelinux? Friday and saturday, ABUL, our LUG, participated in an exhibition, I have shown how to install and use Mandrake 9.1 to people who are only PC users, afraid by

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Tuomo Stauffer
My $0.02 and no offence ! Best so far. Unfortunatelly I'm not in position to offer much but I'm a Mandrake user ( fan ). My $0.02, this, as all the projects, would need a champion / dictator willing to work 24h / day AND say what is included and what is not, what is ready and what is not, etc.

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: - How to have more contributors? A bugzilla (or similar product) for the release version? Seems strange I know but if you hook people on the concept as users with a smaller bug number (hopefully) in a release version you could well spark the

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Peter Chen
On Sunday, Sep 28, 2003, at 13:34 US/Eastern, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Warly wrote: - How to have more contributors? We need clear documentation/instructions on how to contribute. At present, contributor status seems random (he who bugs Lenny the most gets an account). There are

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Laurent Saint-Michel
Hi, Le Dimanche 28 Septembre 2003 10:19, Warly a écrit : It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? As indicated, mainly the mirror process - We though a bit

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Diego Iastrubni
, 28 2003, 21:44,Michael Scherer: * use also apt-get (with the same repositories, IMHO this can be done no?), let the user which app use to install rpms. IMHO it just wastes mirror space ... how many use apt? it doesn't matter, apt is patched to use hdlist in mdk :) does it mean

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Robert L martin
What about a metadistro with a cdrom (in the future a dvdrom) runing Mandrake from the cd-driver? similar to Knoppix but with all the Mandrake goodies. there are a couple mandrake related projects to do exactly that. Maybe Mandrakesoft could adopt one of them and or start a wiki node with

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Robert L martin
No. I don't need ISO's at all during development. 'rsync'ing to a local server and installing via net from there is cheap, fast and reliable. This is not my opinion. Some problems are only found with a fresh install or an upgrade of a previous stable distribution. and lets not forget the

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Austin
On 09/28/2003 06:26:43 PM, Diego Iastrubni wrote: áéåí øàùåï, 28 áñôèîáø 2003, 21:44, ðëúá òì éãé Michael Scherer: * use also apt-get (with the same repositories, IMHO this can be done no?), let the user which app use to install rpms. IMHO it just wastes mirror space ... how many use

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Felix Miata wrote: 5-A usable normal boot and/or rescue floppy should be at least offered for creation during install. After install, creating a boot and/or rescue floppy should actually be possible on any system. Barring that, the creation process that fails should offer

[Cooker] Attn: Juan - Kernel srpm

2003-09-28 Thread Rocco Stanzione
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Juan, I haven't dug through the spec file to see exactly where the problem is, but if I rebuild the current kernel source, it doesn't respect --without up or - --without enterprise. After long arguments about the proper way to build a recent

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Robert L martin wrote: What about a metadistro with a cdrom (in the future a dvdrom) runing Mandrake from the cd-driver? similar to Knoppix but with all the Mandrake goodies. there are a couple mandrake related projects to do exactly that. Maybe Mandrakesoft

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread jokerman64
On Sunday 28 September 2003 09:39, Luca Olivetti wrote: Michael Reinsch wrote: - some packages have a maintainer who is not really the maintainer of this package (i.e. most changes are done by someone else), so a bug report isn't assigned to the correct person. And sometimes they make

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread jokerman64
On Sunday 28 September 2003 09:38, Nora Etukudo wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 03:05:48PM +0200, Pierre Jarillon wrote: This is not my opinion. Some problems are only found with a fresh install or an upgrade of a previous stable distribution. Well, I don't like upgrades, I do only fresh

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Robert L martin
Doing Knoppix MIB with Mandrake files would KILL. I am looking at doing something like this now ... but I'm not sure if I have access to such a version of Knoppix (is it in standard knoppix yet, or still a remastered version?). (this project boots from cd and then mounts a flash memory key

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 01:19, Warly wrote: It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to have some brainstorm. May you give your opinion on : - What was wrong in 9.2 development process? - We though a bit late in the 9.2 developement process to split cooker ml,

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 15:07, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: - How to have more contributors? A bugzilla (or similar product) for the release version? Seems strange I know but if you hook people on the concept as users with a smaller bug number

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 28 September 2003 01:18 pm, Diego Iastrubni wrote: * use also apt-get (with the same repositories, IMHO this can be done no?), let the user which app use to install rpms. I don't understand the continued romanticism with apt when urpmi has matured so nicely. It even takes two fewer

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 28 September 2003 06:07 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ Very Cool. Thanks Vincent -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx

Re: [Cooker] And next ?

2003-09-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 28 September 2003 05:36 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Warly While the people here can help in answering this question for sure. It's also one that should go out to the expert list as well. Some of the people here are on both yes, but there is a group there that has dedicated itself

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