It must be remembered that the presentation layer is optional, and CSS
isn't always available. It might be due to a server error or timeout (i
experience that on maybe 1% of page loads), or, as HTML rendering
capability extends to ever-smaller devices, a physical limitation.
span has no default
.
It's a CMS, but I can use conditional comments in the template.
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écrit :
Hi,
At http://test.permaculture.co.nz I am trying to tighten the layout a
little in order to fit more content above
technique has been applied to the link
inside the p rather than to the block element.
Is it safe to give p#skip-link a zero height?
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#999;
border-left: 1px solid #444;
border-bottom: 1px solid #444;
border-radius: 30px;
background-color:#edece6;
padding: 0.8em;
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21:42, Richard Grevers wrote:
Problem 1: Centre column has narrow content, e.g.
http://www.permaculture.org.nz/classified - the left column moves
off-left.
Make...
#content {width: 100%;}
...active again.
Have not tested, but given the negative margin design basis the above
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Other than railing against the fact that you can only apply a fixed
background relative to the viewport rather than a container, what can
I do to position the *left* edge of a background image at 50% with a
fluid
appearing as the screen gets too wide or too narrow.
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possible
order permutations)
- image backgrounds on some columns (difficult with
- full height columns
- sticky footer
Are there any more up-to-date layout articles?
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. While, it still works in IE6 to 8,
what is the best alternative?
Use the expression, but in an external stylesheet targeted to the
versions of IE which need it, called from a conditional comment.
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start=5, while support
for css counters isn't universal.
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Google chrome (2.0.172.31) appears to minimise the width of floated
tables which have no explicit width, while most other browsers assume
100%. Is this actually a bug or just one of those undefined behaviours
that serve as a lesson to always follow Braden's mantra?
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Google chrome (2.0.172.31) appears to
minimise the width of floated
tables which have no explicit width, while most other
browsers assume
100
overlap rather than
dropping to vertical alignment.
4) In IE6, #heading is going extremely wide (much more than 100%),
causing horizontal scrolling and the centred content block to drift to
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, set the encoding of your page to UTF-8. Also,
avoid using Verdana on the page, as pre-vista versions of verdana are
buggy and put diacriticals on the wrong character in some browsers.
(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdana )
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be some length
of page for which that would look ugly, and it would presumably siffer
from exactly the same triggering issue.
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preload resourced defined in :hover
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is truncated at the right-hand side in
IE7. What have I done to offend it?
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Richard Grevers wrote:
When I remove no-repeat, the background becomes visible, but its offset
varies as you change the page width. How can I get it static where I want it
to be?
That .leftcol is 100% wide, so
probably not a case of failing to hide overflow but of it making
the element larger than you expect. Slap on a red border as a test and
I bet it will be beneath your unwanted bit of blue.
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://catalog.etco.com/item.php?sku=08393l=e English
You would be best to use attribute selectors for the lang attribute -
except your markup seems to be lacking them.Their use (for the
secondary language on the page) would be a good idea.
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corners will become much easier, but I'm picking that
everyone will support border-radius before that.
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that the default language of the site doesn't have /it, and
if you come up with a language-based navigation management as the site
grows, you can always create a redirect from /it to / if that assists
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the item number
outside the div. I only have Opera, firefox 2 and IE6 available to
test with at present, but its orking fine on all of those
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Having had problems with onetruelayout before, I tried Gunlaug's
companion column example.
FYI: companion column is not mine. It's Ingo Chao's (linked to from my
site).
I stand corrected. (Sorry Ingo!)
But I
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http://www.vine.org.nz/index.php/services uses a
negative-margin based
How can I make the left-column
(which is sized in ems) full height?
http://www.vine.org.nz/index.php - complicated by the
presence
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http://www.vine.org.nz/index.php/services uses a
And also:
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/companions.html
Having had problems with onetruelayout
a similar problem on three-column pages
e.g. http://www.vine.org.nz/index.php - complicated by the presence of
the two-column masthead, which may mess up 100% heights. (I still have
to redo the footer there as I write)
some days I hat implementing other people's designs :-)
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I'm not sure which of several changes did it, but the 2-column
negative margin layout at
http://www.vine.org.nz/index.php/services
suddenly has a disappeared left column (in IE, firefox, Opera)
HTML and CSS both validate.
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On 4/8/08, Richard Grevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure which of several changes did it, but the 2-column
negative margin layout at
http://www.vine.org.nz/index.php/services
suddenly has a disappeared left column (in IE, firefox, Opera)
HTML and CSS both validate.
Never mind
#propdef-font
If the latter, the values have to be in a specific order: Value:[ [
'font-style' || 'font-variant' || 'font-weight' ]? 'font-size'
[ / 'line-height' ]? 'font-family' ]
Firefox might be being stricter about this than IE.
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,
the border is added, and a negative margin applied to the image to
prevent it moving.
The original used multiple classes in order to control color, and of
course you need a separate class for each size of image you want to
use the effect on.
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- haven't tried IE's) just scales everything
proportionately - it doesn't break layouts, only magnifies them. So
the solution of using an image still works.
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- fixed (or possibly em) sized.
6) full width footer.
7) any column longest.
In other words, when the screen is narrow enought to trigger the
min-width of the center column, there will be a horizontal scrollbar
and the right column will start to vanish.
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in the latest 9.5 weekly, but the
overlay does partly (50%) cover the vertical scrollbar and its bottom
arrow button.
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-break-inside set to avoid but nothing works.
Any ideas?
What browser are you testing in? IE has no support for paged media.
Opera supports it but with a few bugs, and Firefox had patchy support
last time I checked.
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be to leave the image absolutely positioned and float a
transparent image to push the text out of its way.
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quirks mode rendering in IE?
From memory, getting the parent wrong for absolute positioned elements
was an IE5 / 5.5 bug, and might have only been fixed for standards
mode in IE6.
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doesn't have a sound understanding of CSS.
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to correct it, so
you will have to work around it in the design:
Either
1) Move the form so that the menus won't intersect the form elements
or
2) Hide the form elements when the menus extend.
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in the way of them simply writing their
response in the box.)
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matters, but does this mean that all
machines running IE6 will be forced to upgrade to IE7?
No, because last time I heard they still aren't releasing IE7 for all
those Win2000 systems (like the one I'm posting from - using Opera of
course)
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that there is a nett saving in total
bandwidth as well as requiring one fewer requests.
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to the relevant elements. Putting text of various colours
over a single image background will never work reliably.
Oh, and your design seems to assume that everyone has white window
backgrounds. We don't. So if your design requires a white background
you need to declare it.
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that stylesheet. (Mine just makes the body text fonts
bigger).
The Mediawiki source should show you how it's done.
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allow the buttons/ menu to fix to the text??
We'd need to see the site in order to offer constructive advice, but
in general I would put eliminating the frameset at a much higher
priority than converting the layout to css.
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ordering them both ways in the source. Once again no
problem in Opera or Mozilla.
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add a class and simply style that class (with a
background image)?
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debugging and figuring the net resultant style on any element.
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commencing the first div (you might even find that it isn't
clickable).
Try this:
liaimg /span class=legendfoo/span/a/li
and style .legend {display:block; text-align:center;}
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or not they are accepting/applying css?
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Checks in IE7 and Safari would also be appreciated.
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in nearly every
browser (13pt vs 16pt, IIRC) so you would at least need to allow for
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for this?
http://www.codestyle.org/ has surveys of the most commonly installed
fonts for each OS. They switched to measuring by a java applet rather
than user judgement earlier this year, so accuracy has improved a bit
(for the given sample).
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the vertical flow. As you
will see, this can be achieved via a combination of margin (in ems)
and line-height.
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the effect would be a 'sprite' method: Have
a background image containing both the bright and greyed icons and
reposition it as necessary.
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element.
The irony is that if you have #fe on #ff, the validator won't
issue a warning, but it will still be invisible.
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of the elements. Of course as soon as
you declare a border to test that, the margins will no longer
collapse.
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the margin if
you change to a different width image, and you have to decide what you
want to happen with the second paragraph.
What CSS needs is some sort of orphan protection with floats :-)
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width it is almost certainly a rounding error.
You could try eliminating the text-align:center on body, or serving it
only to IE 5.5 and older (plus ensure IE6 is in standards mode)
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field
names and indicating that you have matching data stored. Not sure if
it is css-controllable.
Why are you so determined to destroy the accessibility of your site by
removing the focus outlines, though?
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the
backgrounds and hope (possibly in vain) that no browsers experience
any small differences.
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level element. Why, for deity's sake? I guess I could insert a
block element and then force it back to inline, but that is just
ridiculous
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Can someone on a mac please check this out for me?
*http://tinyurl.com/2bnwgu
um, your image replacement appears to be broken in Opera (checked in
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with a
carefully selected boundary.
But I don't think its a css problem. - other than it would look better
if your text block had a transparent (the default) background
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colour in IE6.
Are you by any chance using a .png as a repeating background? If so
that is the problem. IE6 does not render colors of .png's correctly.
...or jpgs :-(
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celllspacing=0
becomes
td,th {border: 1px solid;}
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soemthing they are comfortable with.
Search for other layout methods which can achieve what you are after.
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might be a small bug.
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google for wmode transparent.
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functions to render the control.
Standard workarounds:
1) Redesign so the form isn't in the path of the menu
2) Use scripting to hide the form element while the menu is displayed
and re-show it when the menu closes.
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?)
Any ideas?
Note: It doesn't validate: I haven't yet tackled the task of
pummelling Miva into sniffing for IE and sending content as xml rather
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Richard Grevers wrote:
Same page, http://www.freeparking.co.nz/hosting/
The Firefox 2 users in our office report that the background images
for the rounded boxes in the right hand column (Renew hosting and
Select currency) are escaping
this must be a bug in Firefox - is there a workaround?
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I don't see that in Firefox/2.0.0.3...the page looks fine to me.
ok folks, here's a screenshot: http://www.freeparking.co.nz/test/ff2.jpg
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to standards in Opera, firefox is nearly always fine,
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Richard Grevers wrote:
Do Mac users have any problems with the updated page?
There are 15 captures here
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=334605.
Fair warning if the client is a nit-picker like me who gets-off on
pushing
javascript [1], which gives valid code,
no click to activate and is pretty bulletproof. keep your
alternative content small, as it is downloaded!
[1] http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
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On 3/23/07, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard Grevers wrote:
We are getting random float drops on the newly redesigned
http://www.freeparking.co.nz/hosting/
Depends on what full width (100%) is in pixels. What you have now should
be more than enough, but you're using
% + 27% (=99%) - how low do we need to go to
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that would make the remaining floats
expand into the space left by the dropped float.
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Richard Grevers wrote:
We're seeing a bizarre behaviour from IE7 on the page http://www.paen.net
The 2 or 3 boxes on the right ought to be over on the right with a
reasonable gutter between them and the body text, and they display
that way
is defined as 9em. I've already tried changing
that to px: As 120px it exhibits the same behaviour. As 180px, the
boxes overlay the body text.
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the first letter of
the heading, but not the first letter of each word the way
text-transform:capitalize should.
By the way, which browsers exhibit the error? Looks fine in Opera
(unless you've changed the markup)
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as content and
hyperlink that (using css to disable underline and border)
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Richard Grevers, New Plymouth, New Zealand
Hat 1: Development Engineer, Webfarm Ltd.
Hat 2: Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz
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and add an onclick event,
Firefox ignores the onclick event.
Do you have a test page?
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Richard Grevers, New Plymouth, New Zealand
Hat 1: Development Engineer, Webfarm Ltd.
Hat 2: Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz
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defined appearing between
the images.
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Richard Grevers, New Plymouth, New Zealand
Hat 1: Development Engineer, Webfarm Ltd.
Hat 2: Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz
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to
disable Opera's default FOUC-killing delay, because I prefer to get
text ASAP.
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Richard Grevers, New Plymouth, New Zealand
Hat 1: Development Engineer, Webfarm Ltd.
Hat 2: Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz
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Try containing each label/input pair in a div or p element any
apply the clear to that rather than the label.
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Richard Grevers, New Plymouth, New Zealand
Hat 1: Development Engineer, Webfarm Ltd.
Hat 2: Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz
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