From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Earl W asks about Reloading Solutions Direct: << Anyone have any experience
with them? >>
Sort of, though I haven't bought much from them. Head honcho is Aftab Hamid,
nice guy and very helpful. The catalogue is comprehensive, in fact the best
UK reloading catalogue I'
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Neil Francis writes, << But if - say - 70% of the country find it distasteful
- does it become reasonable to look at preventing that activity from being
engaged in? >>
This is a profoundly illiberal attitude, and a reminder of all the stuff
we've heard about gun owner
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< The key to a prosperous economy lies in keeping taxes down and reducing
regulation and setting free the creative and hard working British people to
succeed in the world economy. Opportunity has to be spread to all. Britain
must be an open society in which s
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like Mathew Wright's plan for a united (and unifying) body. But I suspect
one of the unstated difficulties in the shooting world, in addition to the
chronic parochialism and dog-in-the-manger attitude of so many Brits, is that
of social class. Take the CA - I'v
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The fact is that he didn't have a gun, he was armed with a brush, for God's
sake. In such circumstances just how reasonable is it for the poor guy to be
prosecuted for making a rhetorical threat to shoot some irritating teenagers?
What if he'd said, "Go away and
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Macnair writes, << The Tories may have been the party that enacted the
ban on handguns , however , do you think that they would have acted that way
had it not been for Labour electioneering on the back of Dunblane ?. They had
their hands forced. >>
This
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EJ Totty writes, << the foxes I knew when I was a kid, were a lot bigger than
the cats we had. >>
Correct me if I'm wrong EJ, but I suspect you're referring to the grey
(sorry, gray) fox, which is significantly bigger than our red fox. I know you
have the red on
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jonathan writes, <>
I'm sure that foxes can and do eat pussy cats, but probably not very often,
not least because a big pussy can weigh the same as a fox - which are rather
slender, delicately built creatures under all that fur. Reminds me of a
friend who often
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Gould's reminiscences of handling CCF weaponry at school remind me of
my own similar experience of the more rational attitude to firearms in the
1960s. We would collect our No.4s and the Bren from the Cadet Hut where they
were chained up, march down to the
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Agreed, Chris - it's a long time ago, but I used to hunt squirrels in the
Buckinghamshire beech woods, and shot a great many with an old BSA Airsporter
bought s/hand for 15 quid. The stock had been smashed by some oaf in the
past, and bodged-up with nails! It sp
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I disagree with Jonathan's reiteration of arguments in favour of the
efficiency of traditional hunting compared with using a rifle. I have always
been baffled by the bone-headed persistence of the hunting lobby in claiming
that the hounds 'n' horses business is t
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pity that Stuart Heal is not going on the March because he's "opposed to fox
hunting". I thought we all knew by now, even many of the diehard Bisley
single-shot target rifle types, that if we don't hang together we'll all hang
separately... Even if only out of se
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< A cohesive society can accommodate right left and centre, as long as the
common concern is liberty. >> suggests Jeff Wood. I think the word "liberty"
is the key one, indeed it is difficult to see how any gun-rights-enthusiast
could describe himself as being es
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As the Liberty (who they?) spokeswoman pointed out, Widdecombe has said
nothing new on self defence, merely done the usual political snow-job. This
is par for the course, for political "debate" between NuLab and the Tories,
because they have a cynical scam going where
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< Peter Kokalis related a particularly gruesome account of the use of the
Vulcan in his review of Dillon's minigun improvements in SOF, >>
Er, Jonathan S was referring to the Avro Vulcan bomber, Steve, not the
multi-barrel cannon... I too understood that the Vulcan ra
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< If heroin was so benign, why was it banned? >>
Really, Steve, you should know better! Surely one of the questions we face
constantly from outside is, If guns are so benign, why were they banned?
Legislation, as we know all too well, is not the rational, fair-minded
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hope, IG, that you consider criminal evidence with more care than you do
some of the postings to this list!
1. Our US friend didn't try to "impose his values" on this country, he merely
drew a useful comparison between the rights of Americans and those of
Englishmen
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am concerned that our friend in blue, IG, is becoming slightly jumpy. I
didn't imply, old chum, that 458 Win Mag (picky!) is a viable self-defence
round - unless it was for shooting a burglar's getaway vehicle, 'cos I dare
say it would penetrate an engine block - I
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Though this has cropped up before on the list, the death of the trial judge,
Sir David Croom-Johnson, produced an interesting obituary in the Telegraph.
Extract:
<<...Waldorf had been a passenger in a mini travelling along a street in
Earl's Court when he was mistaken
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< If there were no firearms controls, then this individual would have been
able to continue to possess firearms without fear of any sanctions being
applied! He would still be here. >>
As Steve points out, IG, this fellow held firearms for 20 years or so anyway.
Let'
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< Also this argument about only weak-minded people is utter crap as well,
anyone
can become a drug addict >>
Come on, Steve, you're in danger of getting a little personal here! There is
such a thing as the "addictive personality", identified a long time ago, and
it
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< any drug that has seriously harmful effects and is addictive should be
banned >>
I know it's tempting to agree with this, but the history of governments
banning things (including guns...) is a very sorry one. Reason invariably
flies out of the window, the rules are
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kenneth, an excellent list, most of which I have not read but ought to
sometime. You mention John Masters's "Bugles And A Tiger", eminently readable
autobiography by a man who changed his life post-war, left the regular army,
and became a novelist living in the USA. A
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeff, "Handgun" is an odd film - in colour BTW, not black & white - because
it was made by a Brit director whose name (infuriatingly) escapes me but who
is distinctly on the "respectable liberal art-film" side of the fence as
opposed to mass-market Hollywood. It is su
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IG writes:
<< I quoted these laws in order to show that higher crime figures are as the
result of more laws that can be transgressed and to show how society has
evolved over the past 80 odd years
:::Now the law abiding are penalised and criminal acts punish
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< various provisos such as proof of competence and physical ability >>
Yes, Tim, but as soon as we get into these sensible-seeming measures which
you suggest are acceptable compromises, we get the ratcheting-up effect: it
is in the nature of politicians and bureaucra
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not hounding you, IG, but when you say,<< Total freedom of firearms means
that people like this would be free to have firearms. >> you miss the point,
which is that he WAS armed, and from what we know about him he would have
been armed without regard to the law - as a
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jonathan writes,<< If we had a system that issued FAC's, or any type of
licence or privilege for that matter, based on the grounds that you didn't
like the look of someone then no one would get them. >>
That's what this comes down to - suggestions that X% of FAC hol
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What with the squirrels being given paramedic support at the roadside, and
the LACS wittering on about HM the Queen wringing the neck of a winged
pheasant, I'm in danger of coming on all Victor Meldrew-ish and asking what
this country is coming to... Really, it makes
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< Obergrupenfuhrer (is that spelt right?) >>
No - you left out a "p" and the umlaut over the second "u". OK I'm being
pedantic - the real problem with your posting IG is that for someone who
(often accurately) highlights the irrelevance of others' postings, and their
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Norman Bassett writes, in the latest of his always-interesting reflections,
<< And I think it would be a big step forward if the UK police accepted that
they work for the public and not for the Home Office which trains them to
regard the public as creatures from anoth
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< We both know the realities of our respective groups, but are unable to get
people to see the wider picture! >>
Very true, IG, but there is a considerable difference between our respective
groups, in that the police - though not in a direct sense "government agents"
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ho hum. Here we go again. Shooters v. police...
Listen IG, I'm sure most of us think you're a perfectly decent bloke - after
all, you go hunting, and clearly know a thing or two about ballistics, so you
can't be all bad - but you just have to realise that the long-stan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Both Jonathan and Peter seem to have mixed views on the Ruger. My two
penn'orth is that I owned only one, a Ruger 77/Mk2 VBZ varmint job in 22-250,
and I too had mixed feelings. It was very well fitted and finished, with a
particularly nice stainless barrel - very smo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
While not wanting to belittle any genuine problem which might exist with the
Rem 700, or seem indifferent to the Barbers' tragic loss of their son, I have
to say that most of the accidents described in this report are clearly due to
faulty gun-handling. If a rifle isn
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've never wanted to own a de-activated gun, and I never had any desire to
have my late Series 70 .45ACP Commander neutered - I flogged it in advance of
the ban, rather than surrender it - but can anyone confirm my feeling that
deacts are pretty damn expensive? For ph
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< Surely all you need to save squirrels is a big jar of formaldehyde. >>
This reminds me - isn't the Turner Prize pantomime imminent? If we pooled our
roadkills, pickled them, made an "installation" and won 20,000 quid, we could
donate it to shooting organisations. Wh
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This rings a bell. I once squired a lady - very briefly, until I found out
she was bonkers - who nearly had us off the road when she exclaimed, "Oh look
out, a squirrel!" and actually grabbed the steering wheel! After saving us
both from death or injury I said somethi
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am no expert on stalking, but my instinctive advice is yes, go for premium
bullets - a very minor part of your total expenditure, and how many deer are
you likely to shoot anyway? Nosler Partitions or Speer Grand Slams, and as a
cheaper alternative try Nosler Ballis
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< Fed Rep for a large area of a large police force with a good licensing
dept. that NEVER make any mistakes and an even better armed response unit)
>>
Well, IG, you won't get any crude "flaming" from me, and not even any jokes
about flat feet (actually not an occupat
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks David for the load data, which I'll forward to my chum a.s.a.p.
Don't think me ungrateful, but the MV figures look a trifle modest, which is
a difficulty my chum has commented upon. I think the problem is that as a
relatively obscure cartridge published data ten
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know why David in New Zealand received the piece by Robert Henderson,
but Mr Henderson is a libertarian political commentator who makes frequent
postings (including this one) to :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- while his email address is :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cybershooter
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< The Shooting Product Reviews section is
slowly building up and could be very good. Why don't
you check it out. >>
I did. It's boring. Apart from something on airgun pellets, it's all about
shotgun items. The site is cumbersome to use, and badly designed. Stop
push
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A chum of mine has a rifle in 6.5 x 68, a custom varmint
job which he's put together to take to S.Africa as a
long-range baboon destroyer - Shilen barrel, Nightforce
NXS scope (800 bucks in US, not the 1150 quid demanded in
UK!), Jewell trigger and so on. He's left it i
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< pictures of the shooters
wives/husbands would be sent in as well as possibley
"Comedy pics" from shoting events (bloke picking nose,
drunken person in the bar afterwards, etc.)
I'm just wondering if people on the cybershooters list
would be interested in getting
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does Neil's dad live in Devon? I know of similar occurrences in this county,
mostly subsequent to the importation of a Fireams Licencing Officer from the
Met. One of the county's best-known gundealers told me of a farmer who, after
some informal clay-shooting on farml
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom Charnock writes:
<< The clever bit is that the Parish had not noticed this was 2 1/2 months
after the close of the game season, and for sure neither had the Local
Council. But all of them now think of the local pheasant shoot as cowboys.
>>
Well, Tom, that says i
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Right, let's settle this matter - a very quick search revealed an interesting
site (http://members.aol.com/knivesuk/law.htm) which suggests it was indeed
in 1959 that flick-knives were banned, largely as a result of the kind of
kneejerk moral panic with which shooters
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unlike many of my fellow citizens I find myself neutral
regarding the Israelis and Palestinians. Spokesmen for
the latter make such wildly unrealistic demands
concerning the Israelis needing to pull out of Jerusalem
altogether (something they won't do 'til hell freezes
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe I read somewhere that the Martoranas originate
from Sicily. Perhaps the vicious no-brains who murdered
Mrs Martorana for a wristwatch should have checked this
out first...
Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org
List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I entirely agree with Alex's suggestion that undiluted
hostility toward anti-noise (or anti-shooting) urban
incomers is unproductive, and that we should attempt
to educate them. Some of the objectors to clayshooting
noise have indeed been to my house for drinks, and met
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Richard Faulds' problems with village incomers protesting
about the noise of shooting is a phenomenon I recognise.
In my village, a small group of clayshooters has held a
once-monthly shoot on land belonging to one of them
right on the edge of the village, for about fif
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<>
Yes, well, my long-standing interest in the shooting
sports doesn't extend to a smidgeon of interest in the
extraordinarily pointless activity of shooting holes in
pieces of paper with an air-rifle at 10 metres - I can't
really blame non-shooters for their massive ind
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< I've never actually seen Vihatouri powder in this
country. Who sells it? >>
Various dealers I believe - but try The Sportsman, Paignton,
Devon - which as I recall you sometimes deal with anyway.
If out of stock they'll get some for you quickly.
It's easy to think of
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have between 400 and 500 Hornady V-Max .22 cal bullets, 55gr,
which are surplus to requirements, 400 of them in still-sealed
boxes. I want 40 gr V-Max, or 40gr Ballistic Tips. Or Sierra
BlitzKings maybe. Anyone interested?
Email me direct, please.
Thanks - Anthony Har
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When Guy writes, <> he is sending exactly the same message as David
Edwards did when he started this thread. As I tried to
explain in my posting, though, while no shooter who
thinks about the subject imagines that UK dealers could
sell American kit as cheaply as it can b
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick Royall writes:
<< stop whinging unless to (sic) are going to take up
accountancy as well as shooting then you will know what
establishment costs and EOQ's are and then you will do
the decent thing and buy hundreds of guns each and
thousands of bolt on bits for them.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shooters are right to doubt the appropriateness of
voting LibDem - they say one thing (all sorts of
things in fact, they're very talkative) and do another.
Just remember that despite their protestations of
open-mindedness about things such as fox-hunting, when
in power o
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Edwards writes, <>
That's OK David, I don't take your comments personally
- though I'd emphasise that in my reply to your offer
of a Burris scope I did not imply one little bit that
you or the rest of the guntrade was profiteering at our
expense. You will recall t
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EJT's message reminds me of the situation regarding
full-auto licences in the USA. Haven't heard anything
of this for some time, but I understand that such
licences had to be granted by the Feds, and that they
"froze" the number by administrative decree , the
current nu
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Whenever I come across things like this I can't help
thinking of my grandfather, who grew up in rural
Shropshire in the late 19th century. Guns were at
least as much a part of rural life as it is suggested
they are now in NZ, and I'm sure if any teacher had
tried to inst
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In between bouts of gloom over our dwindling democracy, I try to get a few
bullets down-range before they take away my rifles.
Having put together a neat (IMHO) lightweight varminter, a .223 Win
Featherweight (actually a "Youth Ranger", same dimensions but not smoothed
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve - this subject is not as off-topic as some might think, since the
process of covering our road network with cameras has parallels with firearms
legislation. As with the latter, people-control by speed camera has a curious
history, unstated agendas, and is inimic
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< A crowd favorite was the Sig-Sauer P220 0.45 millimeter
automatic handgun >>
Love it! An automatic weapon in .45 mm! Just right for the
plague of wasps currently afflicting us...
Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org
List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeremy writes, << The German ethos of obeying the law is so deep seated that
even today you find pedestrians waiting at a red light at a German light
controlled crossing even when there are no cars coming! >>
Nothing personal Jeremy, but here we're bordering on the Br
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IG says, << I dont believe that people should disobey or
break a law, no matter how repugnant it is to the individual >>
This, IG, is exactly why some people take you to task and
we get tangled in these Nuremberg comparisons. The Law
might be a wonderful thing (I have t
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmmm, reminds me of an enlightening experience one day
when chaps were getting rid of some 303 tracer. Bang!
Puff of sand from the backstop 100 m distant, glowing
tracer whizzes straight back over our heads about a hundred
feet up, to disappear God knows where...
Cybe
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am delighted to be able to agree with Neil Francis, for once. The very idea
of government by constant plebiscite is horrifying, since it would be the
antithesis of democracy - if you believe that "democracy" should mean pretty
much the same thing as "free society".
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re. Tony Martin:
<< It's a pity he was not a drug smuggler or
part of an Easter agreement he might be let out. >> writes Graham Gartshore.
And more specifically, it's a pity he wasn't the former commander of the
Belfast Brigade of the Provisional IRA, and a current (t
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trivial Pursuit, cont'd - the latest action movie my wife has had to produce
translated subtitles for was called The Delta Force, an enjoyable piece of
mindless fun with villains getting blown away by the score, though not up to
Red Dawn I fear. Who should I see in it
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul McDermott has a restricted understanding of "corrupt", a word which does
not necessarily refer to any simple exchange of money for services rendered.
Or perhaps he's just being disingenuous.
It's a truism to say that politicians "always seek votes and popularity",
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm getting almost as fed up with people churning out
the word "democracy" as I am with Labour politicians
and their news-media sycophants banging on about
the threat to "schools & hospitals" whenever anyone
suggests a slightly less crushing tax burden might be
a good i
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ask an obscure question, get an obscure answer... I know
very little about armour, but here are two companies who
advertise in Heritage magazine:
Battle Orders, 01323 485182
Museum Replicas Ltd UK, 0845 6021905
I've sometimes wondered how on earth they kept chain
mail cl
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Assuming that Neil Francis is serious in preferring
John Lennon to Nelson, it seems a somewhat contentious
preference. Lennon was a fair tunesmith - gutsier than
McCartney - many of whose songs enlivened our youth, but
otherwise unremarkable. Viscount Nelson, on the o
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm surprised Neil Francis managed to watch it all the way through, since he
finds it so awful. And he's watched Rocky IV too! I haven't. Perhaps he reads
The Guardian and takes an academic interest in redneck popular culture.
Actually, I've been through the film-buff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All I would add to Steve's comprehensive account is that in Germany you need
a licence to handload ammo. In fact I think you need to pass an exam to get
your ticket - just like fishing, in fact, such is the German bureaucratic
mania for controlling people. There's a l
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I'd known the amount of time my fellow Cybershooters would devote to
assisting with my terminology problem, I might not have posted the query!
Many thanks to all who have helped, not least to Alex's friend in Colorado.
The original difficulty was the weird "duffle-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for your various suggestions about the weird "grazing fire on
duffle-A" line in Red Dawn - it says "duffle-A" in the transcript, but now
the video's been provided it all becomes clear: the sound quality is
terrible, but after several re-plays it's possible to m
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can some well-informed CS contributor help with some arcane jargon? In the
film Red Dawn (for which my wife is producing translated subtitles) there's a
line:
"When you reach this bunker, lay down grazing fire on this duffle-A."
OK this might be just a sloppy scriptw
79 matches
Mail list logo
