N.Y. Takes Aim
State Sues Gunmakers, Citing æCondition of DangerÆ
The State of New York is the first state to sue the firearms industry. They claim gun
manufacturers and wholesalers created "a condition of danger." (Liana J. Cooper/AP
Photo)
By Samuel Maull
The Associated Press
N
Colorado high court clears way for vote on gun show loophole
DENVER (AP) _ The Colorado Supreme Court has rejected an attempt by the gun lobby to
keep off the Nov. 7 ballot an initiative that would close the so-called "gun-show
loophole."
Currently, only people buying guns from
I take back what I was saying about Spanish gun laws -
go and have a read of this, it's only a few hundred
sections long:
http://www.ses3.com/page502.htm
Or if you were thinking of moving to Argentina:
http://www.seguridadprivada.com.ar/leg0620429.htm
The Spanish like their laws long, it
World Forumá
on the Future of
Sport Shooting Activities
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News Clippings - Vol 1 Issue 1 - June 13, 2000
"These items are sent to WFSA members, and others, as a non-commercial
informational service. They consist of third party press reports and
The Birmingham Post
POLICE FACE MORE GUNS ON STREETS
31/7/00
By Alun Thorne
After a shooting in a crowded shopping area, a senior
Birmingham police officer yesterday spoke of his fear that
some youths are now carrying guns every time they go out.
Police said it was a miracle no one was
Shot teenager loses fight for life
A teenager has lost his fight for life, 10 days after
being accidentally shot in the head by his stepbrother.
Steven Doyle, 15, of Dunbar, East Lothian, died of his
injuries in Edinburgh's Western General Hospital.
He was shot by Steven Wight, also 15, as
Man fires shot outside court
Armed police were called to Luton crown court after a man
fired a gun outside a court building.
The shot was heard by people sitting inside and witnesses
outside saw a man in his late 20s fleeing with a handgun
tucked into his trousers.
A Bedfordshire Police
Bit of crossed communication here, if you use bigfoot.com
as your ISP can you reply! No-one else, thanks!
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Man arrested following courtroom drama
A man has been arrested by police hunting for two men
sprung from the dock at a magistrates' court during an
armed raid.
Thames Valley Police said the 22-year-old, who was
arrested near Maidenhead, was being interviewed by
detectives on suspicion of being
Sunday Telegraph
ISSUE 1906 Sunday 13 August 2000
Gun ban threatens British Games prospects
By David Bamber Home Affairs Correspondent
BRITISH shooters are threatening to boycott the 2002
Commonwealth Games in Manchester because the Government's
ban on handguns prevents them practising.
This has got to be the dodgiest website I have found on
guns, (mmm, I'm sure they have all the licenses), but
the video is pretty interesting:
http://www.fullautoglock.com
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Has anyone got a manual for the original HK P7 that they
would be willing to part with or do a photocopy of for
me?
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Secret Service Takes on School Violence
Aims to Help Identify Potentially Dangerous Youths
Aug. 17, 2000
NEW YORK (AP) -- Long the guardian of America's
presidents and currency, the Secret Service is extending
its expertise to a new domain: the nation's schools.
The agency believes that some
Policeman jailed for stealing amnesty gun
A policeman who gave away a pistol which was handed in
during a guns amnesty following the Dunblane School
massacre has been jailed for six months.
Desmond Pearson, a Constable with the South Yorkshire
force, had been found guilty at an earlier trial
Teaching Gun Safety
Does Gun Education in School Really Save Lives?
By Claire Moore
Aug. 20 ùIt may be the only issue people on both sides of
the gun control debate can agree on.
Proponents and foes of gun control say they want gun
education and avoidance programs taught in public
Sky Sports One will be showing the White Gold Cup in
clay pigeon shooting in the primetime viewing slot
of 8 am on Monday, 11 September.
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Folks, I've made a major error which means you haven't
received any mail for the last few days. Don't worry,
I'll have it sorted out soon, continue sending stuff to
me for publication.
BTW, I am going to start using a new heading for the crime
stories, i.e. "crime", I used to use "pol" because
RURAL AREAS HIT AS CRIME SPILLS OVER FROM INNER CITIES
101531 SEP 10
By Gordon Darroch, PA News
Better transport links and improved security in city
centres are helping to feed a rising trend of crime in
rural areas, research published today suggests.
The value of countryside
The Sunday Times
October 1 2000
BRITAIN Gun lobby attacks Straw over curbs on teenagers
James Clark, Home Affairs Correspondent
BRITAIN'S shooters have been warned that they face
"decimation" as Labour widens its attack on country sports
to include severe restrictions on shooting by teenagers.
FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED SEPT. 17, 2000
THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz
Will rewrite nation's history to suit new tenant
Some publicity has been generated by the prominent play given leftist
college professor Garry Wills' review of the new book
Go and have a look at this: www.handguncontrolinc.org
It's too funny.
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Newsletters,
Britain Beefs Up Controls on Firearms
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain said Wednesday it was tightening
up firearms controls, including new restrictions on shotguns
and raising the minimum age for owning a gun to 18.
Home Office Minister Charles Clarke unveiled a package of
new measures but stopped
Well here it is, the bad news and the not so bad news,
the Govt. response to the HAC report, the Govt. intends:
GENERAL:
-a ban on the use of lethal firearms (an oxymoron, as all
firearms in our legislation by definition are lethal) by
anyone aged under 16 unless supervised by a responsible
October 4, 2000
SIG: Sale of the Small Arms Division
SIG continues its strategic reorientation. Relevant
to the focus on packaging technology, the group is
selling off the Small Arms Division. Retroactive per
1.1.2000, German private investors are taking over the
business units: pistols,
Does anyone know where to get a good quality rifle rack
for ten rifles or so? They have some nice ones down at
Bisley but I haven't seen any yet for gallery rifle
length rifles. The racks used for TR are too tall for
my purposes. Made of decent wood as well, not crappy
plastic.
Steve.
NRA to air TV spots boosting Bush
Interest groups prepare to join the ad wars
ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON, Oct. 13 ù The National Rifle Association is
set to launch TV ads boosting George W. Bush and other
gun control opponents as interest groups and campaigns
plot strategy for the three
I have noticed that in the digest sometimes the lines
get cut short with an "=" at the end of the line, I
thought I had solved this problem some time ago but
apparently not. Does everyone have this problem or
is it just me?
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It wasn't in the HO press release, but in the command
paper the Government says:
"The Government accepts the principle recording the
details of all firearms on the database [of certificate
holders and applicants] but would wish to consult
further wiht the police service and other interested
1st U.N. conference on small arms to be held in N.Y. in 2001
.c Kyodo News Service
NEW YORK, Oct. 30 (Kyodo) - The United Nations will host the first conference
on controlling trade in small arms in July next year, U.N. sources said
Monday.
The conference, scheduled for July 9-20, was
At www.guns2u.com
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U.S. vs. STEWART -- ATF MISFIRES AGAIN
TODAY'S HEARING IN COURT REVEALS ATF INEPTITUDE
by Angel Shamaya
Executive Director
http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com
(Phoenix, Arizona) July 10, 2000
Bob Stewart will be sleeping in his own bed again tonight.
All arguments in the government's current
Right, you can now have a digest if you want it, essentially this
means that instead of getting a dozen or so emails a day they are
all squashed into one email.
I expect a lot of you might want this so please bear with me as
it will take time to process requests.
One important point - if you
At the risk of being laughed at, I was wondering whether
anyone has an L98A1 Cadet Rifle they would be willing to
sell. I keep hearing that they have accuracy problems
but I can't help thinking that it has to do more with
the ammunition as RG ammo I have tried lately has been
very grim.
I will
New rights will make for bad law, say Tories
By Martin Bentham
Sunday Telegraph: Legal pile-up
THE legal system will be plunged into chaos costing
millions of pounds by Labour's Human Rights Act, Ann
Widdecombe, the shadow home secretary, claimed last
night.
Miss Widdecombe said a ruling on
The Birmingham Post
17 July, 2000
1,000 IN GUN PROTEST
Almost 1,000 people took to the streets of Handsworth and
Lozells in Birmingham at the weekend to voice their anger
over the spate of shootings in the area.
Community leaders and prominent members of Birmingham's
black churches were joined
Please could you make sure when you are sending stuff
for publication that it is in plain text, not HTML
encoded. In theory the gateways are supposed to
automatically do this but often they don't and I end
up with a scrambled message with all the headers added
onto it which takes time to clear
I was reading through a Spanish gun magazine today, and I
was fascinated to read about a rifle being sold there in
.307 Winchester.
Spain has a law banning modern military-style semi-autos in
military calibres, so you either have it converted to
straight-pull or have it in a non-military
I just thought I would share with you my wisdom after shooting
some Geco 9mm today though my Armalon PC rifle.
I don't know how much 9mm I have gotten through in my life
but it must be in six figures by now.
Recently I have gotten exasperated (and bored) with PMC 9mm
which works okay but it
CLINTON TO KEEP GUN BUYBACK PROGRAM DESPITE GOP OBJECTIONS
CHAPPAQUA, N.Y. (AP) _ President Clinton intends to
continue offering federal money to local governments for
gun buyback programs, despite a challenge from House
Republicans who claim the administration lacks legal
authority. Clinton
Would anyone happen to have a printed copy of the July 1st
article in which Judge Clark made his comments about gun
collecting being "a dangerous, unhealthy fascination"?
I need a copy of it.
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Man arrested following courtroom drama
A man has been arrested by police hunting for two men
sprung from the dock at a magistrates' court during an
armed raid.
Thames Valley Police said the 22-year-old, who was
arrested near Maidenhead, was being interviewed by
detectives on suspicion of being
Some of you may have seen the ad from Cotswold Arms recently
advertising a CO2 version of the AK-74 assault rifle. The
urge took me so I bought one -
The rifle itself has made by Izhmash stamped on it, the people
who make AK-74s for the Russian Army, however the internal
mechanism is actually
Police officer in custody over teenager's death
An Italian police officer accused of shooting a teenager
who was driving his scooter without a helmet has been
taken into custody in Naples.
Mario Castellano was shot to death last week when he ran
a police checkpoint set up to enforce a recent
We have four subscribers who use bigfoot as their ISP,
if you receive this message can you please reply to me.
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The website has been updated with an article on the
Tir Federal. Go to:
http://www.cybershooters.org/editoria.htm and follow
the link.
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ATK Produces One Hundred Millionth Round of Small Caliber
Ammunition at Lake City Army Ammunition Plant
Minneapolis, Aug. 15, 2000 û ATK (Alliant Techsystems,
NYSE: ATK) said it has produced the one hundred millionth
round of small caliber ammunition at the Lake City Army
Ammunition Plant in
By Graeme Paterson, PA News
NEIGHBOURS FIGHT OLYMPIC HERO'S 'NOISY' RANGE
The family of Olympic gold medal winner Richard Faulds
are locked in a planning battle with neighbours who have
objected to a clay pigeon shooting range at their farm,
it emerged today.
Neighbours near the Faulds'
Clinton Announces Steps to Block Illegal Gun Sales
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Aiming to keep guns out of ``the
wrong hands,'' President Clinton unveiled on Saturday an online
system intended to block minors and criminals from using
fraudulent firearms licenses to buy guns by mail or over the
I just tried this out, it does work, you put the FFL number
in and it gives the address and expiration date.
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I have received a rather stupid letter from the FCS
saying they will not be making any more interest payments,
because they have no "authority" to do so. This seems odd
as the courts never ruled that compensation was payable
to David Steed but they did pay him.
The only solution is to sue en
Brazil's Supreme Court overturns decree banning gun sales
October 19, 2000
Web posted at: 3:37 PM EDT (1937 GMT)
SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- The Supreme Court has overturned
a nationwide ban on gun sales decreed earlier this year as
part of a government program to curb rising crime rates in
Latin
People asked me about this awhile ago, I just found it
lurking in one of my folders - courtesy of Dean Speir:
Just make certain that the _FBI QIT_ target is utilized before anyone
starts blowing smoke up their own backside about B-A-A-A-D they are. And
also remember, this course is shot cold.
Bit slow off the mark on this one, but it has come to my
attention that the ACPO Use of Firearms committee has
adopted a policy that police forces should destroy all
surplus firearms rather than selling them off - I have no
idea why, it is truly a bizarre waste of taxpayer's
money.
Fortunately
Yes, I've finally gotten around to starting the reviews
section, go to www.cybershooters.org and click on the
"Reviews" button.
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Old, but worth reminding you all of it:
http://www.nypostonline.com/business/6190.htm
POLITICIANS JOIN NRA SHOWDOWN
By PAUL THARP
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Politicians are rallying around Toys "R" Us and luxury
purveyor LVMH for taking a stand against the
I have added reviews both to the cybershooters website
and the DGCA website (http://www.cybershooters.org/dgca)
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TWO MEN SHOT IN STREET
Two men are in a serious condition in hospital after they
were gunned down in the street in broad daylight, Scotland
Yard said.
The victims, one aged in his mid-20s and the other in his
mid-30s, were shot outside St Martin's Estate in Tulse Hill,
south London, at 3pm
70% Decline in Gun Dealers in 7 Years
NewsMax.com Wires
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/30/204447.shtml
Friday, Dec. 1, 2000
WASHINGTON (UPI) - The number of gun dealers in the United States has
dropped more than 70 percent since 1993, when the Brady Bill was passed, a
survey
Two Men Shoot First, Figure It Out Later
WINNIPEG (Reuters) - Two 20-year-old men in rural western
Canada could be banned from handling firearms after what police
on Friday called a bizarre experiment.
It began when one of the men brought a military-style
bullet-proof vest back to their Swan
AOL Fires Gun Owners
Date:10/30/2000 1:01:00 AM
Written By:Sarah Thompson, M.D.
AOL Fires Gun Owners
by Sarah Thompson, M.D.
Director, Utah Gun Owners Alliance
http://www.UTGOA.org
America Online, http://www.aol.com, has been known to gun owners for
some time for their support of anti-gun
Does anyone have any experience with this calibre?
Apparently it is .222 Remington Magnum necked up to
6mm.
When I was in Switzerland recently SM told me they had
started making ammunition in this calibre, and apparently
the European 300m ISSF champion used it.
I was going to buy a Free Rifle
I've had some people moaning about the number of messages.
This is largely IG's faultG.
There is a simple solution, I can put you on digest
and you get one or two messages a day instead of 20-odd.
Let me know if you are interested.
BTW, if you reply to a digest message be sure to be clear
Okay, this is a pretty clever virus, it changes the name
of the file attachment as well. Delete anything you get
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with an attachment that ends
with ".SCR" It will have an old message title or a blank
message title. In fact I bet other people may have gotten
this one too
One of our list subscribers has contracted a virus and
it is likely that some of you are on his subscriber list.
It uses an old email subject line so it looks like a
genunine email. It is blank with an attachment called
HANSON.SCR
I have no idea what it does but a fair guess is that
at a
And here's something else from the SM website:
PRESSRELEASE
October 2000
Swiss Ammunition Enterprise Corp wins Handgrenade Contract
with UK Ministry of Defence's (MOD) Defence Procurement
Agency (DPA),
After several years of evaluation SM Swiss Ammunition
Enterprise Corp. In Thun, Switzerland
President Clinton: Commemorating and Strengthening the Brady Law
Thursday, November 30, 2000
Today, joined by Jim and Sarah Brady, President Clinton will
celebrate the 7th anniversary of the signing of the Brady Law
by announcing new efforts to strengthen enforcement of this
landmark
Sorry, that should have been 3534 metres in the last message.
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Innocent plea in office killings
MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS
WAKEFIELD, Mass., Dec 27A software engineer
accused of targeting seven co-workers for methodical slaughter
was denied bail Wednesday after pleading innocent to seven
counts of murder. Michael McDermott, 42, stood
I've decided to make the Cybershooters award a bit different
this year, and as it will probably take forever to decide on
the recipient, I thought I'd better get started now!
This year (or rather 2001) we're going to give the award to
the person or company that made the greatest contribution
to
Another update to the website, this one covers the Swiss
Ammunition Enterprise:
http://www.cybershooters.org/swiss_ammunition_enterprise.htm
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These are quite interesting links, the picture gallery has a
picture of just about every small arm the US uses in about
every circumstance possible:
http://www.pica.army.mil/pmsa
http://w4.pica.army.mil/oicw
The OICW page has an MPEG of the 20mm grenade being fired at
night.
Steve.
Angus Hobdell recently won the Grand Master class of the
American Handgunner World Shootoff 2000, but lost overall
to Everette Brunelle who used a stock STI (if there is such
a thing), i.e. no compensator or optics. (Oh, and he
shot from the Isoceles stance too ;-b)
Steve.
Cybershooters
I have been told the specification of the refitted SA80s,
the L85A2 and L86A2, will include:
A new barrel;
A new bolt and carrier assembly including firing pin;
New heavier springs and carrier guide rods;
New gas system;
New furniture;
New magazine.
The bolt head has been redesigned with one
FIVE KILLED IN SUPERMARKET SHOOT-OUT
Thursday 04 January 2001 5:50pm
Five armed robbers have exchanged gunfire with police and
security guards at a supermarket in Jacarei, Brazil,
killing five people and wounding 13 others.
The robbers attacked security guards who had come with an
Electronic Telegraph
ISSUE 2057 Thursday 11 January 2001
Handgun crime soars despite Dunblane ban
By Thomas Harding
THE number of crimes involving handguns reached its highest level for
seven years in 2000, leading the pro-gun lobby to suggest that the ban
introduced after the Dunblane
Police move to tackle huge rise in gun crime
By Ian Burrell, Home Affairs Correspendent
15 January 2001
A national firearms database is to be established for the first time,
amid fears over record levels of gun crime.
The setting up of the database, recommended by the official inquiry
Actually thinking about this today, presumably 12 ft/lb
was decided on back when grey squirrels were pretty rare,
so shooting the smaller red squirrels wouldn't have been
a problem. With the fat sloath grey squirrels that inhabit
inner cities nowadays, a 12 ft/lb air rifle is less likely
to
Go and have a look at this:
http://www.official-documents.co.uk/document/cm50/5001/5001-03.htm
There's a lot of interesting stuff here. Look for example
at table 3.12, that indicates that 142 handguns were stolen
from residential premises 1999-2000. As very few handguns
can be legally
My griping on a variety of issues can be read in my
latest editorial at:
http://www.cybershooters.org/january_2001_editorial.htm
Also if you're interested in guns G I have heavily
updated some of the reviews on the DGCA website at
www.cybershooters.org/dgca - especially the M4 review.
Also in the latest editorial is a link to the new guidance
on antiques:
http://www.cybershooters.org/january_2001_editorial.htm
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Probably I shot from the hip a bit on this one but while doing
a bit of research for my editorial I came across this claptrap:
http://hamilton.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=65
Posted by some homes for needy people organisation. Possibly
worth pointing out that the people in
I've updated the FAQ for the first time in a long time, as
I keep getting asked the same questions.
It's at http://www.cybershooters.org/subscribe.htm
Most of the changes are in section 2.
One thing I would point out again is that the most common
reason I get given for unsubscribing is
Actually if you want to have a real laugh go and have a look at
this:
http://www.gun-control-network.org/CrimStats0101.htm
Apparently having the highest handgun-related homicide figure ever
is "statistically insignificant"!
So if it in fact does not "save one life" they attempt to
Gun lovers' housing complex proves big hit
A US complex where gun lovers can buy a plot for a family
home along with a Uzi sub-machine gun for nearly L250,000
is nearly sold out.
The 500-acre Front Sight complex in the Nevada desert is
sold as a protected enclave where families can live
This is from the new draft guidance to police:
"3.1The term 'game' covers those animals and birds that
may be shot for food. Apart from deer which are dealt with
below, these may include Rabbit, Hare, Pheasant, Partridge,
Grouse, Woodcock, Snipe, Bustard and other game birds. The
For Immediate Release Gun Lock Hotline: (800)
726-6444
February 7, 2001 Contact: Russ Rader
Release # 01-078 (301) 504-0580 Ext. 1166
NSSF Contact: Bill Brassard (203) 426-1320
CPSC, National
I've been having a problem with mail bouncing from mcmail.com
accounts. I have no idea why, either they're useless or
they have a filter that thinks Cybershooters is spam, like
bigfoot.com
Anyway, if you are subscribed under an mcmail.com account do
not be surprised if you miss some
Once upon a time there was a girl named Goldilocks.
Being young and full of jingoism, she joined the Cadet Force
and later the Army and became a nurse, serving with
distinction in the Falkland Islands.
During her time in the cadets she had become a keen shooter,
and upon leaving the Army
Right, seeing as we've been going for nearly five years I thought
it might be time we held a competition.
Originally I was going to be dreadfully dull and suggest a GR
comp., but I can't help thinking that there are a lot of
disciplines that should be popular in this country and aren't.
McCain Planning Gun Control Bill
By Mark Preston of Roll Call
http://www.rollcall.com/pages/news/00/2001/02/news0208c.html
Seizing on Congress' failure to reach a bipartisan agreement on gun
safety legislation, Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Joe Lieberman
(D-Conn.) are quietly working
Given that my mailbox is at exploding point on this thread,
I will have to end it here.
This is not the forum for talking about whether or not fox
hunting is a good idea, this is for shooters, although I
recognise there is some overlap when it comes to field sports
as many of them require a gun.
Strict Law Amounts to Gun Ban in Maryland
CNSNews.com
Friday, Feb. 23, 2001
Even supporters of Maryland's strict new gun law admit it has created a
"de facto ban" on gun sales in the state.
Maryland's gun "safety" law approved last fall requires gun makers to
test-fire all guns shipped into
Army running out of bullets
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The U.S. Army is running out of bullets.
A memo sent this week by Fort Hood, Texas, the Army installation
with the largest population, says soldiers are suffering a worldwide
shortage
of 9 mm ammunition.
Message text written by Neil Francis
I can't see an issue here. This is just a central database of people who
hold firearms in the UK. If someone can tell me this is any different than
me being on a central database for having a driving licence, national
insurance number, a visa card with
Neil, I'm not keen on starting another bash the NRA thread, but frankly I
think they will shortly sink under the weight of their own incompetence so
I wouldn't worry.
Steve.
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Are you seriously telling me that by putting up a personal WWW page on
guns
and this country's attitudes to them or writing to any pro gun maillist or
BBS on the Internet will attain you a file in MI x?
Come on - get real. You have said as much yourself
I meant "standard" as in Joe Blow goes into a shop and his PC
has it on there, rather than an RFC which has been around for yonks,
you're right.
Microsoft tells me it won't ship with Win2K until next year at least,
there is support for it in the DNS that ships with it though.
I know there are
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Right or wrong I agree the argument is, in a way, pointless
but if you get into an argument about this with someone in a pub you will
lose for the above reasons.
Obviously never been in a pub argument with me.
Steve.
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