Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
which player are you using? what else is running? whats cpu usage like? Dean Kenward Vaughan wrote: Is this an issue with the amd64 arch, or something else? I have an AMD 5600+ cpu paired with an Nvidia 7600 GS card, which strikes me as more than adequate to work with a DVD (my older XP 2500+ had no problems...). The video is literally jerky, and poorly sync'd with the audio. It doesn't seem to matter what player I use. I have done nothing with card settings, but do have the latest driver in place. Relavent parts of my xorg.conf: - Section Module Loadi2c Loadbitmap Loadddc # Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection ... Section Device Identifier nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GS] Driver nvidia BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection - Is there other info I could provide? Anyone have thoughts which might help? Should I install a 32 bit system on this machine for these things? Kenward -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 00:51 -0500, Jaime Ochoa Malagón wrote: are you using compiz/beryl/XGL? None of the above, though I couldn't find beryl/xgl (xgl is apparently part of a few other packages) you should not have problems with that hardware... glx is working? Don't know how to tell. Part of the output from glxinfo is as follows: -- daddy:~# glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation server glx version string: 1.4 server glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_NV_video_out, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB GLX version: 1.3 GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GS/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 2.1.0 NVIDIA 97.55 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_color_buffer_float, GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, ... -- glxgears works smooth? At 6340 fps, it's doing fine for me. Kenward On 6/7/07, Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this an issue with the amd64 arch, or something else? I have an AMD 5600+ cpu paired with an Nvidia 7600 GS card, which strikes me as more than adequate to work with a DVD (my older XP 2500+ had no problems...). The video is literally jerky, and poorly sync'd with the audio. It doesn't seem to matter what player I use. I have done nothing with card settings, but do have the latest driver in place. Relavent parts of my xorg.conf: - Section Module Loadi2c Loadbitmap Loadddc # Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection ... Section Device Identifier nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GS] Driver nvidia BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection - Is there other info I could provide? Anyone have thoughts which might help? Should I install a 32 bit system on this machine for these things? Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 15:52 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: which player are you using? I've tried mplayer, codeine, ogle, totem, and vlc. Totem ca't read the disc. what else is running? whats cpu usage like? I disabled everything else including xscreensaver, and shutdown folding @home as well. Essentially no processes outside that of the system and X, excepting evolution. I run fluxbox for WM. I have 2 Gb Mushkin memory. ** One thing that comes to mind is that I have no patch audio wires from the player to the MB at this point. Could this make a big difference in what the player has to do to get things to work? I saw a fair amount of output from codeine about dropped frames (being too old) as well as other issues. I can post some of that in a separate email. Kenward Dean Kenward Vaughan wrote: Is this an issue with the amd64 arch, or something else? I have an AMD 5600+ cpu paired with an Nvidia 7600 GS card, which strikes me as more than adequate to work with a DVD (my older XP 2500+ had no problems...). The video is literally jerky, and poorly sync'd with the audio. It doesn't seem to matter what player I use. I have done nothing with card settings, but do have the latest driver in place. Relavent parts of my xorg.conf: - Section Module Loadi2c Loadbitmap Loadddc # Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection ... Section Device Identifier nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GS] Driver nvidia BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection - Is there other info I could provide? Anyone have thoughts which might help? Should I install a 32 bit system on this machine for these things? Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:34:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: ** One thing that comes to mind is that I have no patch audio wires from the player to the MB at this point. Could this make a big difference in what the player has to do to get things to work? This would/should make no difference. The last time I had that cable attached was on a SB Pro. Sounds like you have a bad dvd drive (or badly configured IDE (e.g. no DMA)). Copy the DVD to HD (or a chapter with mencoder) and see if that does anything for performance. -- When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. Daniel Tryba -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 system
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:05:42AM +, Sam Varghese wrote: The Core 2. I am surprised if an Athlon 64 beat the Core 2 on video encoding. Weird. What codec and encoder program managed that? It's a little fan next to the graphics chip, comes on the motherboard. Once it starts making a racket, you can live with the noise or else get the board replaced. I chose the latter option. Do you mean the south bridge fan? Nothing to do with graphics. Aren't they usually just a 40mm fan? Can't they be replaced? My experience has been different so I'll agree to disagree. I have just seen many posts on this list where people ran memtest, found nothing wrong, but eventually swapped out the ram and their problems went away. memtest is good at telling you if you have a problem, but terrible at telling you that you don't have a problem. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 system
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 04:05:24PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I don't see anything that would be inherently a no-go with linux but I do know from reading this list that wifi is interesting. make sure its covered. I didn't see wifi on the list. IIRC, the difference between M2N-SLI Deluxe and the M2N32-SLI Deluxe is that the 32 includes wifi onboard. I didn't see a dvd writer either. PX760 is rather nice, and pxfw can update the firmware from linux on it. I've an LG read/burn anything; works fine. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 system
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 09:20:35AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: IIRC, the difference between M2N-SLI Deluxe and the M2N32-SLI Deluxe is that the 32 includes wifi onboard. The M2N32-SLI is an nforce 590, while the M2N-SLI is a 570. That means the 32 has dual 16x slots, while the other has dual 8x slots. As for the wifi, I have never found anywhere that says what chipset they use, although I believe it connects by USB, so it is some USB wifi chipset. I guess if lucky it is a ralink and it may in fact work, and other wise who knows what the changes are. I've an LG read/burn anything; works fine. Being able to easily update firmware to support new types of media is quite handy. I don't have windows on my machine. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 system
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 06:03:40PM -0400, Robert Isaac wrote: If you go the Dell route be sure to pick the Ubuntu pre-installed choice. It may be Ubuntu, but it is the GNU/Linux sale that counts. That particular offer comes only with xp home (not vista, and xp pro is an add on cost). I think I will wait and buy a properly made machine at some point. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:34:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: I've tried mplayer, codeine, ogle, totem, and vlc. Totem ca't read the disc. xine perhaps? Although mplayer tends to work too. I disabled everything else including xscreensaver, and shutdown folding @home as well. Essentially no processes outside that of the system and X, excepting evolution. I run fluxbox for WM. I have 2 Gb Mushkin memory. ** One thing that comes to mind is that I have no patch audio wires from the player to the MB at this point. Could this make a big difference in what the player has to do to get things to work? That only applies to audio CDs. I saw a fair amount of output from codeine about dropped frames (being too old) as well as other issues. I can post some of that in a separate email. Any chance DMA isn't enabled for the DVD drive? That would cuase a ton of extra cpu work reading the drive and make it read much slower too. cat /proc/ide/hda/settings |grep -i dma Replace hda with whatever the DVD drive is. I have this: using_dma 1 0 1 rw The first value is current, followed by min and max. 1 means using dma, 0 means not using dma. Usually if you don't have DMA, you have the wrong ide driver loaded for your IDE chipset. Usually the debian kernels are quite good at detecting and loading the right drivers from the initrd, but sometimes it needs help. My Athlon 700 with a 6600GT has no problem playing DVDs. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xephyr on AMD64 Etch a.k.a multiseat
Hi, I'm following this howto[1] to make a multiseat system on AMD64, I saw there were precompiled binaries for Xephyr, and I started to create some packages with apt-get source applying the patches on that page[1] 1.http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Multiterminal_with_Xephyr The steps I followed to apply the patches were: apt-get source xserver-xephyr sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xephyr wget http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/multiterminal/howtos/xephyr-patches.tgz mv xephyr-patches/kdrive-evdev.patch xorg-server-1.1.1/debian/patches/46_kdrive-evdev.patch mv xephyr-patches/kdrive-ephyr-evdev.patch xorg-server-1.1.1/debian/patches/47_kdrive-ephyr-evdev.patch cd xorg-server-1.1.1/ fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage cd .. dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xserver-xorg-dev_1.1.1-21_am d64.deb xdmx_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xdmx-tools_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb xnest_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xvfb_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb xserver-xephyr_1.1.1-21_amd6 \ Then when I try to make /usr/sbin/Xephyr.sh -display :0.1 -br -xauthority \ /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -geometry 1024x768+0+0 -keyboard \ /dev/input/kbd1mt -mouse /dev/input/mouse1mt,5 -use-evdev -dpi 92 I get an error that sugests the patches weren't applied correctly, because the options geometry, keyboard and evdev are not allowed. Mi questions : * Does anyone have experiences of multiseat with AMD64? * If so, the Xephyr approach or something else? (documents?) * If with Xephyr, do you have a recommendation for applying the necessary patches? Maybe a pointing to a howto or a manual? I suspect that I'm applying the patch incorrectly, how to do that in a correct way? Thanks in advance. P.D: I have the graphics card working with the two monitors fine, but I'm not able to make the keyboard and the mouses with the monitor become an independent seats. -- Recomiendo SLEC, la comunidad del software de libre redistribución y educación en Colombia http://www.slec.net signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:44:00AM +0200, Gilles Sadowski wrote: Certainly not, I had only bad experiences with all-in-one systems. Dell is probably better than Fujitsu-Siemens but I'd rather have standard components, for a desktop computer. But... The budget we have might be enough to also buy a laptop. Which one(s) would you recommend? The main requirements are that - it must be light (the more so, the better); small screen size is not a problem as this won't be for watching DVDs... - it should have a _working_ graphics output (to plug it to a projector); some laptops seem to have problems with this, under Linux... - it must have a supported WIFI chipset. I think about the only way to be quite sure wifi will work on a laptop is to get something with an intel cpu/chipset/wifi in it. intel actually tries to support linux for their wifi chips. My wife has an Asus R1F, which from what I have read is very very easy to install linux on, although she hasn't tried it yet. I believe it has the intel 39xx wifi chip (the a/b/g wifi) which recently had support contributed to the kernel by intel. I think the only part of that model that is known to not (yet) work with linux, is the tablet screen input, but it is USB based, and quite likely wacom based, so people are working on it. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:08:41AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:34:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: I've tried mplayer, codeine, ogle, totem, and vlc. Totem ca't read the disc. I don't know your board. My EN7300GT Silent does the mpeg conversion in hardware with the nvidia driver so my CPU sits mostly idle and memory use is slight. I run vlc. I have debian-multimedia in my sources.list and have the suggested/recommended packages (per vlc) installed as well. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xephyr on AMD64 Etch a.k.a multiseat
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:14:38AM -0500, Igor TAmara wrote: Hi, I'm following this howto[1] to make a multiseat system on AMD64, I saw there were precompiled binaries for Xephyr, and I started to create some packages with apt-get source applying the patches on that page[1] 1.http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Multiterminal_with_Xephyr The steps I followed to apply the patches were: apt-get source xserver-xephyr sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xephyr wget http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/multiterminal/howtos/xephyr-patches.tgz mv xephyr-patches/kdrive-evdev.patch xorg-server-1.1.1/debian/patches/46_kdrive-evdev.patch mv xephyr-patches/kdrive-ephyr-evdev.patch xorg-server-1.1.1/debian/patches/47_kdrive-ephyr-evdev.patch cd xorg-server-1.1.1/ fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage cd .. dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xserver-xorg-dev_1.1.1-21_am d64.deb xdmx_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xdmx-tools_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb xnest_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xvfb_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb xserver-xephyr_1.1.1-21_amd6 \ Then when I try to make /usr/sbin/Xephyr.sh -display :0.1 -br -xauthority \ /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -geometry 1024x768+0+0 -keyboard \ /dev/input/kbd1mt -mouse /dev/input/mouse1mt,5 -use-evdev -dpi 92 I get an error that sugests the patches weren't applied correctly, because the options geometry, keyboard and evdev are not allowed. Mi questions : * Does anyone have experiences of multiseat with AMD64? * If so, the Xephyr approach or something else? (documents?) * If with Xephyr, do you have a recommendation for applying the necessary patches? Maybe a pointing to a howto or a manual? I suspect that I'm applying the patch incorrectly, how to do that in a correct way? Thanks in advance. P.D: I have the graphics card working with the two monitors fine, but I'm not able to make the keyboard and the mouses with the monitor become an independent seats. Can you run the graphics card as two seperate X servers though? I have only ever heard of people doing multi user setup using seperate PCI video cards that could be run with a seperate X config for each card by specifying the PCI ID for each device. I guess if you disable cinerama, you might be able to get screen 0.0 and 0.1 managed seperately somehow. I hadn't heard of xephyr before, although it sounds like it is intended to manage dividing one X session into seperate sessions. Neat idea. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
Instead of Dell, you might consider someone like LAC http://laclinux.com They sell nothing but Linux installed on computers _AND_ they will pre-install the real Debian! I haven't bought from them, but plan to. Geary there did help me for free with a AMD kernel issue a few years ago. While I have several AMD servers, I would not let that control what you get for a lap-top. As someone that does hardware level work, I can testify that Intel is a lot more Linux friendly than they get credit for - they make a lot (not all) of their hardware data sheets available so drivers are easy to write. While not ideal, they have firmware drivers for wifi that just drop into place ( /lib/firmwwear). The thinkpad I set up for Linux went smoother than any other laptop. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When faced with the reality that he would have to start working a real job for a living, the politician became about a quarter turn past hand tight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xephyr on AMD64 Etch a.k.a multiseat
I do a few atemps but not really success... If you have multiple video cards listen ti Lennart... If you have only one video card Xephyr seems the right option, and I suggest try first with the original patched code in a chroot, If I understand clearly the trick is configure NOT MOUSE to X beacuse Xephyr should use it raw... good luck let us know success :-) On 6/8/07, Igor TAmara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm following this howto[1] to make a multiseat system on AMD64, I saw there were precompiled binaries for Xephyr, and I started to create some packages with apt-get source applying the patches on that page[1] 1.http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Multiterminal_with_Xephyr The steps I followed to apply the patches were: apt-get source xserver-xephyr sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xephyr wget http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/multiterminal/howtos/xephyr-patches.tgz mv xephyr-patches/kdrive-evdev.patch xorg-server-1.1.1/debian/patches/46_kdrive-evdev.patch mv xephyr-patches/kdrive-ephyr-evdev.patch xorg-server-1.1.1/debian/patches/47_kdrive-ephyr-evdev.patch cd xorg-server-1.1.1/ fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage cd .. dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xserver-xorg-dev_1.1.1-21_am d64.deb xdmx_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xdmx-tools_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb xnest_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb \ xvfb_1.1.1-21_amd64.deb xserver-xephyr_1.1.1-21_amd6 \ Then when I try to make /usr/sbin/Xephyr.sh -display :0.1 -br -xauthority \ /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -geometry 1024x768+0+0 -keyboard \ /dev/input/kbd1mt -mouse /dev/input/mouse1mt,5 -use-evdev -dpi 92 I get an error that sugests the patches weren't applied correctly, because the options geometry, keyboard and evdev are not allowed. Mi questions : * Does anyone have experiences of multiseat with AMD64? * If so, the Xephyr approach or something else? (documents?) * If with Xephyr, do you have a recommendation for applying the necessary patches? Maybe a pointing to a howto or a manual? I suspect that I'm applying the patch incorrectly, how to do that in a correct way? Thanks in advance. P.D: I have the graphics card working with the two monitors fine, but I'm not able to make the keyboard and the mouses with the monitor become an independent seats. -- Recomiendo SLEC, la comunidad del software de libre redistribución y educación en Colombia http://www.slec.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGaXJdtV4JcpE0AlYRAmqUAKC3gd7f8k9e1NxCVhzw0DWV8G7RNwCfWpNA rO3f8+uKlvM18kO5aFv05EU= =NNcw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Jaime Ochoa Malagón Integrated Technology Tel: (55) 52 54 26 10
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:44:00AM +0200, Gilles Sadowski wrote: Certainly not, I had only bad experiences with all-in-one systems. Dell is probably better than Fujitsu-Siemens but I'd rather have standard components, for a desktop computer. But... The budget we have might be enough to also buy a laptop. Which one(s) would you recommend? The main requirements are that - it must be light (the more so, the better); small screen size is not a problem as this won't be for watching DVDs... - it should have a _working_ graphics output (to plug it to a projector); some laptops seem to have problems with this, under Linux... - it must have a supported WIFI chipset. I think about the only way to be quite sure wifi will work on a laptop is to get something with an intel cpu/chipset/wifi in it. intel actually tries to support linux for their wifi chips. My wife has an Asus R1F, which from what I have read is very very easy to install linux on, although she hasn't tried it yet. I believe it has the intel 39xx wifi chip (the a/b/g wifi) which recently had support contributed to the kernel by intel. I think the only part of that model that is known to not (yet) work with linux, is the tablet screen input, but it is USB based, and quite likely wacom based, so people are working on it. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd get an Intel P965 or 975 motherboard, besides some BIOS/MTRR issues with 4 and 8GB of memory, they work very well. Justin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:51:32PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: I'd get an Intel P965 or 975 motherboard, besides some BIOS/MTRR issues with 4 and 8GB of memory, they work very well. Well I hope the kernel developers manage to explain to intel what their MTRR setup bugs are in their BIOS so that they will actually fix it in the BIOS. So far they (intel) seem to think their BIOS is doing nothing wrong. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 14:03 +0200, Daniel Tryba wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:34:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: ** One thing that comes to mind is that I have no patch audio wires from the player to the MB at this point. Could this make a big difference in what the player has to do to get things to work? This would/should make no difference. The last time I had that cable attached was on a SB Pro. Sounds like you have a bad dvd drive (or badly configured IDE (e.g. no DMA)). The results are the same whether on my reader/burner or my read-only drive. Perhaps the DMA part (though dma is apparently configured)? hpotter:/home/daddy# cat /proc/ide/hda/settings |grep -i dma using_dma0 0 1 rw Copy the DVD to HD (or a chapter with mencoder) and see if that does anything for performance. Sorry, but how do I do that? Using dd? (All my computing knowledge is built up--hobbyist level...) Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:51:32PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: I'd get an Intel P965 or 975 motherboard, besides some BIOS/MTRR issues with 4 and 8GB of memory, they work very well. Well I hope the kernel developers manage to explain to intel what their MTRR setup bugs are in their BIOS so that they will actually fix it in the BIOS. So far they (intel) seem to think their BIOS is doing nothing wrong. -- Len Sorensen Yeah it's quite strange, a developer from Intel has patched the kernel and I am using his patch against 2.6.22-rc4 and he says the BIOS has issues, but the BIOS people say its not their problem. Justin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IA-32 libraries
Dear all, I'm new to Linux. I've just installed Debian 4.0 on a server based on EA64T architecture. When trying to install the Intel Fortran Compiler, the installation fails because the IA-32 version of the following libraries cannot be found: libstdc++ libgcc glibc Can anyone tell me where to find them? This is what I've done so far (logged in as root): apt-get install ia32-libs The answer I get is that ia32-libs is already installed in its latest version apt-get ia32-libs-dev The answer I get is that this package is not available but it can be replaced with lib32z1-dev, lib32bz2-dev and ia32-libs. When trying to install them I get a message saying that they're already installed in their latest version. Thank you very much for your help Irene
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 11:08 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:34:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: I've tried mplayer, codeine, ogle, totem, and vlc. Totem ca't read the disc. xine perhaps? Although mplayer tends to work too. Codeine is a frontend to xine, and gives me some info on the settings I can change in xine as well. The one setting that _seemed_ to make any difference was the one concerning a pitch alignment workaround for buggy (video) drivers. Still had problems, which xine reports as dropped frames due to age. I disabled everything else including xscreensaver, and shutdown folding @home as well. Essentially no processes outside that of the system and X, excepting evolution. I run fluxbox for WM. I have 2 Gb Mushkin memory. ** One thing that comes to mind is that I have no patch audio wires from the player to the MB at this point. Could this make a big difference in what the player has to do to get things to work? That only applies to audio CDs. OK. Good to know. I saw a fair amount of output from codeine about dropped frames (being too old) as well as other issues. I can post some of that in a separate email. Any chance DMA isn't enabled for the DVD drive? That would cuase a ton of extra cpu work reading the drive and make it read much slower too. cat /proc/ide/hda/settings |grep -i dma Replace hda with whatever the DVD drive is. I have this: using_dma 1 0 1 rw Ahh. I had not seen this earlier when I scanned your letter briefly before answering someone else's up the list. My result: using_dma 0 0 1 rw Looks like I need to turn on dma with hdparm. If that works, I can place it into rcS.d, yes? The first value is current, followed by min and max. 1 means using dma, 0 means not using dma. Usually if you don't have DMA, you have the wrong ide driver loaded for your IDE chipset. Usually the debian kernels are quite good at detecting and loading the right drivers from the initrd, but sometimes it needs help. Well, I have an MSI K9A Platinum, with the SB600 controller. I have to boot with nomsi/irqpoll kernel options, and currently have msi left out of the kernel configuration altogether. I'm uncertain about any kernel configuration items I might want to activate. I think I need to burrow into the board's handbook for other chips which might be a part of the system. I will get into the BIOS configuration to look at the ide settings (DMA mode, etc.), but was curious how much difference that makes to the kernel, as I have always had the impression that Linux works more or less independently of the BIOS once it has booted up. Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:19:09AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: The results are the same whether on my reader/burner or my read-only drive. Perhaps the DMA part (though dma is apparently configured)? hpotter:/home/daddy# cat /proc/ide/hda/settings |grep -i dma using_dma0 0 1 rw That says dma is NOT being used. That is almost certainly the whole problem. Could you include the output of 'dmesg' to show what driver is being used for it? -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IA-32 libraries
Am Freitag 08 Juni 2007 schrieb Irene Laiz: Dear all, I'm new to Linux. I've just installed Debian 4.0 on a server based on EA64T architecture. When trying to install the Intel Fortran Compiler, the installation fails because the IA-32 version of the following libraries cannot be found: libstdc++ libgcc glibc Can anyone tell me where to find them? This is what I've done so far (logged in as root): apt-get install ia32-libs The answer I get is that ia32-libs is already installed in its latest version apt-get ia32-libs-dev The answer I get is that this package is not available but it can be replaced with lib32z1-dev, lib32bz2-dev and ia32-libs. When trying to install them I get a message saying that they're already installed in their latest version. Thank you very much for your help Irene Hi Irene, my suggestion: Just create a chroot into yous system. You find the howto here: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html Look below Using an IA32 chroot to run 32-bit application. Doing so, you have the advantage of an easy managing. Add the path to the chroot into /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu.conf, so that the 64-bit-system will find it. Add those two lines: /var/chroot/sid-ia32/lib /var/chroot/sid-ia32/usr/lib That is all. With this chroot you will be able to run 32-bit-applications as well. Maintainers: This is working for me, if I made something wrong (i.e. withe the paths), feel free, to correct me. Good luck Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 13:47 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:41:33AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Ahh. I had not seen this earlier when I scanned your letter briefly before answering someone else's up the list. My result: using_dma 0 0 1 rw Looks like I need to turn on dma with hdparm. If that works, I can place it into rcS.d, yes? No, the debian kernels enable DMA by default. If you don't get DMA it almost always means the ide-generic driver is being used rather than the driver for your specific chipset. The generic driver can't do DMA since DMA requires specific knowledge of the chipset. Well, I have an MSI K9A Platinum, with the SB600 controller. I have to boot with nomsi/irqpoll kernel options, and currently have msi left out of the kernel configuration altogether. Oh that stupid chipset. Is that even working properly with linux yet? Always good to hear... :) The board had a good Linux review when I got it from Newegg. I know 2.6.20 had some more patches to fix some issues with that chipset. If you are running 2.6.18 that Etch uses then I would expect problems like this. 2.6.21 from Sid might work better. In general I recommend avoiding ATI chipsets in the first place. I'm uncertain about any kernel configuration items I might want to activate. I think I need to burrow into the board's handbook for other chips which might be a part of the system. I will get into the BIOS configuration to look at the ide settings (DMA mode, etc.), but was curious how much difference that makes to the kernel, as I have always had the impression that Linux works more or less independently of the BIOS once it has booted up. Which kernel version are you running? 2.6.21 Looks like I should try to get more info about the SB600 and try different options.. Kenward -- Len Sorensen -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:09:43AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Always good to hear... :) The board had a good Linux review when I got it from Newegg. Given the number of updates and problems on lkml for the SB600, I have a hard time believing someone would consider it a good linux board. It's an ATI after all. Maybe if you only use SATA it works OK. :) Which board model is it? Looks like I should try to get more info about the SB600 and try different options.. Well hopefully there is a proper driver for the PATA ports on it. Everything I have found so far talks about SATA only. I know many new intel chipset boards use a JM or marvel controller for PATA since intel only does SATA now. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Solved in a round about way] Re: Ideas why dvd playback is jerky?
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 17:27 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:09:43AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Always good to hear... :) The board had a good Linux review when I got it from Newegg. Given the number of updates and problems on lkml for the SB600, I have a hard time believing someone would consider it a good linux board. It's an ATI after all. Maybe if you only use SATA it works OK. :) Which board model is it? The MSI K9A Platinum. I chose it as much for its cooler operating temperature (vs. a hotter nvidia board) as anything else. Even with this problem, I can't say I'm turned off by it. It seems to do alright. Who knows, though? What boards do people really have no problems with? I'm not against switching, though my wife's eyebrows will likely go up... ;-) Looks like I should try to get more info about the SB600 and try different options.. Well hopefully there is a proper driver for the PATA ports on it. Everything I have found so far talks about SATA only. I know many new intel chipset boards use a JM or marvel controller for PATA since intel only does SATA now. Well, this is the first thing I've run into w.r.t. issues, outside of learning how to boot up with the proper kernel options (which the kernel warns may impact performance). My HD's are SATA, and I was using the PATA for the dvd drives. I've solved the issue of DMA, though. I installed a Promise pci IDE controller, up to now unused in another system (my daughter's), and hooked things up to that. Aside from discovering that I had to choose the right pci slot for it to keep BIOS from freezing up, it's working and the DVDs are smooth now. Many thanks to you, Daniel, Doug, and Dean for your help in pinpointing the problem! Kenward -- Len Sorensen -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
