Re: Setting up Anon FTP?
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:42:33AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote: Copy the the libraries from the ldd output to ~ftp/lib, or wherever the above libraries are relative to root (i.e. if in /usr/lib, copy to ~ftp/usr/lib). Make sure the libraries have a+rx permissions. And when did Debian stop doing this for you? All my systems were upgraded buzz to rex to bo to hamm, and they all had the anonymous FTP stuff set up originally automatically. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config
First you want to make sure the the WINS server is running. I've had plenty of experiences where WINS just died for no apparent reason. Next make sure in DUN that they specify the WINS server(s) in the TCP/IP config. Next make sure that they have Logon to Network in DUN checked. This way they logon to the WinNT Domain and have all the rights and permissions as if they were on the local LAN. On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Kevin Traas wrote: Here at work, I've installed a Linux box with a couple of modems hanging off it for dialin access for remote users. Everyone can dialin and access the network, etc. except that there's one little problem that I haven't been able to find any docs / info about None of these dialin users (Win95 or WinNT WS) can browse the network using Network Neighborhood. They get a Can't Browse Network message. However, everything else works fine. I've got a WINS server running and the Linux is a DNS server, so name resolution isn't a problem. However, they can't use the Network Neighborhood to browse to a server, connect a share, etc. Anyone have any ideas on how to get this configured and working? I'd really like to get it working because, well, I'm the one with a bit on the line in suggesting using the Linux box to manage remote dialin users. Now, people are starting to ask why we're not using RAS instead? My thoughts are because it only runs on NT and Microsoft made it... grin... but the people on my end aren't seeing these as good reasons TIA, Kevin Traas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installing with LS-120 drive
Hi Paul On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Paul Rightley wrote: I have persuaded a co-worker to install Debian on his machine. However, he has a LS-120 drive (essentially a 120MB capacity floppy) and no normal floppy drive. I wrote a resc1440.bin (from hamm/main/disks-i386/current) for him since rawrite2 will not work (apparently) with these disk drives. The problem is when it comes to install the kernel and modules on the HDD, the system cannot mount the floppy drive. I am trying to install Debian on /dev/hdb (an IDE drive), and /dev/hda has a NT installation. Try loadlin! It is on the CD (on my German JFL CD it is in /boot or /disks I think) but I don't know if this thing will work with NT. With loadlin (if it works with NT ;-) you should be able to do a disketteless Debian installation, but don't kill me if this is wrong, beause I've never tried it before. Bye Daniel -- Daniel Gross eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hollarstrasse 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-85053 Ingolstadt, Germany -- This is now. Later is later. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Quick Q on ADM xfs
Trying to get adm working with my sgi net running autofs. move auto_map table in pointed adm at it, tells me that it is having problem with the fs type. I think I'm just having a syntax problem, do I have to tweek the autofs table? or the cmd line (amd -D ?) or what. I found lots of info, but no examples of how that info is to be used. For instance, I'm told the linux version of amd requires a fs type to be entered which can be used with Opt= or type:=, but I don't know where to put this opt or type.. If somone out there knows could you please send some examples? Thanks much Bruce Dobrin Multi Media Dept. Sony Pictures Imageworks 310-840-8412 . there are really two groups, The Idealists and the Cynics. ... The Cynics believe everybody is corrupt; where the Idealists believe everyone is corrupt EXCEPT THEMSELVES. Ultimatly you're probably safer with the cynics. -Robert Anton Wilson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Bad blocks
I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I figure it's all bad blocks. I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them. So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD for errors. Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, how can I load linux sans mounting the HD? does it work if I boot from a floppy? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Kevin Traas wrote: None of these dialin users (Win95 or WinNT WS) can browse the network using Network Neighborhood. They get a Can't Browse Network message. However, everything else works fine. I've got a WINS server running and the Linux is a DNS server, so name resolution isn't a problem. However, they can't use the Network Neighborhood to browse to a server, connect a share, etc. If you take a look at /etc/ppp/options you can specify a 'wins-addr' option which should give your win95 dialup clients the right WINS addresses. Last time I checked NT had some problems with getting the assignment, but that might have changed since I last used it (about 1 year ago). You can also specify the dns addresses in a similar manner -- take a look at the file. The advice given in a follow-up to your email about having the clients log on to the NT domain is also correct (as is the rest of it -- this might just help make things smoother). Thomas. M$ slips up in true Freudian style... Seminar attendee: Why is [Outlook] so slow? M$ rep: That's because it's live on the network. Seminar attendee: As opposed to...? Stop the madness! Free yourselves! http://www.opensource.org/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BGP
Just a note: AFAIK debs.fuller.edu does distribute gated .debs -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Memory Usage Reports
Thanks for the reply. One other question I have isat what point does linux remove a program or its parts from memory after you have unloaded (closed) the programs in order to make use of that memory for other programs? Do you know where I can find more information on this? I haven't been able to find any info with any detail. thanks, -- tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Modem Problems....
Is there a neat utility to display what things are using what IRQs? Does not cat /proc/interrupts be of some help ? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config
None of these dialin users (Win95 or WinNT WS) can browse the network using Network Neighborhood. They get a Can't Browse Network message. However, everything else works fine. I've got a WINS server running and the Linux is a DNS server, so name resolution isn't a problem. However, they can't use the Network Neighborhood to browse to a server, connect a share, etc. If you take a look at /etc/ppp/options you can specify a 'wins-addr' option which should give your win95 dialup clients the right WINS addresses. Last time I checked NT had some problems with getting the assignment, but that might have changed since I last used it (about 1 year ago). You can also specify the dns addresses in a similar manner -- take a look at the file. The advice given in a follow-up to your email about having the clients log on to the NT domain is also correct (as is the rest of it -- this might just help make things smoother). Thanks for the comments. My apologies for not providing enough information. I do have everything set properly as mentioned above. The Win95 clients have the Log onto Network option checked and running winipcfg on them reveals that DNS, WINS, IP, Mask, Gw, etc. are all configured as expected. Any other suggestions? Regards, Kevin Traas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Kevin Traas wrote: Thanks for the comments. My apologies for not providing enough information. I do have everything set properly as mentioned above. The Win95 clients have the Log onto Network option checked and running winipcfg on them reveals that DNS, WINS, IP, Mask, Gw, etc. are all configured as expected. Any other suggestions? ummm, I'll put on my MCSE hat (blush) and say: try rebuilding the WINS database, check that browsing works with an NT RAS server, and not with Debian... errr, beyond that, I can only say that it's why I'm not a practising MCSE (even though the 'exams' i had to take were a complete joke...) (sorry for the off-topic-ness) Thomas. M$ slips up in true Freudian style... Seminar attendee: Why is [Outlook] so slow? M$ rep: That's because it's live on the network. Seminar attendee: As opposed to...? Stop the madness! Free yourselves! http://www.opensource.org/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Setting up Anon FTP?
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:42:33AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote: Copy the the libraries from the ldd output to ~ftp/lib, or wherever the above libraries are relative to root (i.e. if in /usr/lib, copy to ~ftp/usr/lib). Make sure the libraries have a+rx permissions. And when did Debian stop doing this for you? All my systems were upgraded buzz to rex to bo to hamm, and they all had the anonymous FTP stuff set up originally automatically. The version of wu-ftpd in hamm appears to install the libc5 libraries in /home/ftp/lib, rather than the libc6 versions required by ls (see bug #17110). --- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bad blocks
I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I figure it's all bad blocks. I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them. So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD for errors. Use the badblocks(8) program. Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, how can I load linux sans mounting the HD? does it work if I boot from a floppy? It shouldn't be a problem to run badblocks while the HD is mounted; it does not write to the drive, just reads from it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Commercial support (was Server Questions (fwd))
Nathan E Norman wrote: On 26 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... : However ... my boss wants to have someone we can call for support when : it doesn't work. This person, persons, or company would preferably hav e : some sort of documentation as to who they are and why we ought to pay : them when we call them. : : I'm familiar with the phenomena. I'd happy to take your money, but I : suspect that your boss wants to see a glossy brochure that says Debian : Support, Inc. on the cover and lists dozens of Fortune 500 customers. Yup, you've hit the nail on the head. : It does seem like there is a business opportunity here. A network of : consultants around the world could handle the phone calls and emails while : somebody with marketing skills fronted for them. Exactly. So, why isn't someone doing this? (You could make a hell of a lot of money). Thanks John. You've stated very concisely the issue at hand. So lets know who is interested in being part of this. I'm assuming Bruce's venture fizzled out, since I've heard nothing more. I am very interested in getting this going, but it will take a lot of work to get the details right. Here are my first thoughts: Objectives: To provide commercial support for Debian Linux. To enhance Linux' image among the `suits'. To provide a modest income for the participants. (A gold mine? - we should be so lucky!) To provide better support than people get from HP, Sun, DG and so on. (We won't bother to compare ourselves with Micro$oft.) Issues: Kinds of support: 1 - handholding; 2 - system admininstration help; 3 - help with program use; 4 - bug tracing/fixing; 5 - consultancy services; 6 - ??? Customer support contracts that don't promise what we can't perform and don't allow customers to sue us for their own stupidity. Pricing. (Can people post details of contract costs in the PC world from other organisations, please. Especially for M$ software!) A Web Page Need for telephone support (someone to call when the user can't find the return key!) - this ought to be organised by timezone and language. If a number doesn't lead to a permanently-staffed office, it probably needs call-forwarding to pass it on to a live support person. Need for business premises in each country; at the least, an office in someone's home. Somewhere to send money to! How to distribute calls fairly; emails to a support address need to be acted on very promptly, so there needs to be a system for members to adopt a support query and for other members to know that it has been taken on. If someone introduces their own customers to the support net, presumably they should get the first calls. There are a lot of issues like this to think about. Perhaps there should be some automated system for call distribution? Holiday cover? Call distribution by specialisation? If someone can't handle a call and passes it on, how do we share the charge between him and the next guy? What if the ultimate answer comes from someone outside the membership (which will probably be the case with a lot of the difficult questions)? Once people are aware of us, they may want to take a cut... How do we get paid? (Particularly with international support; it costs a lot to transfer small amounts of currency.) Who has the fun job of keeping the books? If it grows to any extent, we should soon have to employ at least a secretary/bookkeeper - possibly one per country, I'm afraid. How much would this infrastructure cost us? How long before we need to employ salesmen to keep our hamster's wheel going round? What would be the legal status of the organisation? (Among other things, that affects what taxes we have to pay, and who can get sued.) I spent a number of years doing technical support for UniVerse (a commercial database) and many questions were about how to do something that users could have read in the manuals. The ones about bugs in the software we had to pass on to VMark, but all too often these got ignored. When I finally finished doing support for it, there was still at least one problem that I had reported five years before! It will be very satisfying doing support for a product that we can get changed when it needs it! -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: minicom...
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rafael Castillo Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do i do to configurate the minicom for conecting to interntet wiht a pulse telephone line??? Use the 2nd dial option, ATDP instead of ATDT Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Luck is when preparation meets opportunity -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dump screen to file
How can I dumb the console screen to a file via a bash shell command (or program)? Thanks --- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED], finger for public PGP key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dump screen to file
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 06:08:21PM -0600, FizzyPop wrote: I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I figure it's all bad blocks. I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them. So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD for errors. The command you want is badblocks, I had similar errors a while ago, they were caused by my harddrive, well.. dying.. :) Good thing it still had warranty.. Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, how can I load linux sans mounting the HD? does it work if I boot from a floppy? that would work, as long as the floppy doesn't mount the hard drives.. I've tried several times to unmount my root partition (which is obviously impossible) I also heard that one should be able to use the remount option of mount along with -ro, but that also failed. Since I'm too lazy to run lsof, and look at what programs are accessing my root partition (prolly all of them), I usually do something like tune2fs -C 255 /dev/hda5, which causes my partition to be checked. If you actually care about why this works, read man tune2fs. Although, this is hardly ever necessary. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dump screen to file
hm, sorry, this was meant as a reply to the badblocks question :) On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:37:55PM -0500, Norbert Veber wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 06:08:21PM -0600, FizzyPop wrote: I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I figure it's all bad blocks. I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them. So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD for errors. The command you want is badblocks, I had similar errors a while ago, they were caused by my harddrive, well.. dying.. :) Good thing it still had warranty.. snip -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Anon FTP and other conflicts
And when did Debian stop doing this for you? All my systems were upgraded buzz to rex to bo to hamm, and they all had the anonymous FTP stuff set up originally automatically. Obviously Debian didn't do it; otherwise this wouldn't be an issue on this mailing list. I don't recall the base ftpd setup ever prompting me about setting up anonymous ftp. I believe the users that were having problems with setting up anonymous ftp were not using wu-ftpd. They were using the base ftpd daemon. As such, they probably had to set it up manually. However, in agreement with what you said, installing the wu-ftpd package did set up the appropriate ~ftp subdirectories. I did notice one thing about the libs. Why is the hamm wu-ftpd package installing libc5 instead of libc6? All of the binaries (ls, tar, gzip and in.ftpd) are linked against libc6 so why are the libc5 and ld-linux-1 libraries installed in ~ftp/lib by the package? Also, there were conflicts with the netstd ftpd man page that didn't allow me to install the package. To make it work I had to force the install with dpkg. I had similar problems when installing glibc-dev-2.0.7pre1-2. There was a conflict with ndbm.h from the libgdbm1-dev package (which is obsolete). I had to uninstall libgdbm1-dev before it worked. This is no problem but it is an inconvenience. Does anyone know if this issue is being addressed? Bo was the first Debian distribution that I used, and I never experienced this problem with bo. Of course, I do understand that hamm is still considered unstable. -Ossama -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
glibc install bug (was anon ftp conflicts)
My apologies. I didn't check the big reports prior to posting my last message about the glibc-dev conflict. Sorry guys. -Ossama __ Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- PGP Keys --- Public: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_PUBLIC.asc REVOKED: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_REVOKED.asc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Kevin Traas wrote: Thanks for the comments. My apologies for not providing enough information. I do have everything set properly as mentioned above. The Win95 clients have the Log onto Network option checked and running winipcfg on them reveals that DNS, WINS, IP, Mask, Gw, etc. are all configured as expected. Any other suggestions? If the people are logging in with laptops, try removing the ethernet card. And then when the machine comes up with the login screen hit Cancel, and then try logging in via DUN. Which version of Win95? Original, A, or OemB, crispy, extra crispy, with or without IE4? (Sorry so many versions to keep track of). Worst case scenerio, goto the windows directory and remove the .PWL files and restart the computer and try the above. This has worked from time to time for me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Anon FTP and other conflicts
At 20:52 -0500 1998-02-26, Ossama Othman wrote: I did notice one thing about the libs. Why is the hamm wu-ftpd package installing libc5 instead of libc6? It's a bug. Also, there were conflicts with the netstd ftpd man page that didn't allow me to install the package. To make it work I had to force the install with dpkg. I had similar problems when installing glibc-dev-2.0.7pre1-2. There was a conflict with ndbm.h from the libgdbm1-dev package (which is obsolete). I had to uninstall libgdbm1-dev before it worked. This is no problem but it is an inconvenience. Does anyone know if this issue is being addressed? Bo was the first Debian distribution that I used, and I never experienced this problem with bo. Of course, I do understand that hamm is still considered unstable. Overlaps between packages are bugs, however, dpkg usually has --force-overwrite (which turns errors about overlaps into a mere warning) implicitly enabled, however, the current release of dpkg in hamm has this disabled so there is incentive to fix overlaps. It will be reenabled before release. BTW, the latest libgdbm series of packages (in hamm) has fixed the overlap with libc6-dev, and there are bugs filed against wu-ftpd and netstd regarding the man page overlap. -- Joel Espy KleckerDebian GNU/Linux Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://espy.org/ ftp://ftp.espy.org/pub God shows his contempt for wealth by the kind of person He selects to receive it. -- Austin O'Malley (1858-1952) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Setting up Anon FTP?
At 10:26 -0800 1998-02-26, Alan Su wrote: Ossama Othman wrote (Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:31:56 -0500 (EST) ): |Why are you trying to chroot to /bin/ls? The ftpd daemon automatically |does a chroot when someone logs in as anonymous or ftp. Here is an |excerpt from the ftpd man page. Did you follow what it says? | Tony was trying to diagnose the problem, the same problem I'm having. Namely, ls depends on libc (at least) and simply copying the library to the ~ftp/lib directory doesn't work. The man page mentions nothing about this, leading me to believe that it assumes that ls is statically linked. Here is the /home/ftp on my hamm system: (106) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/home/ftp]# ls -lR total 5 d--x--x--x 2 root root 1024 Feb 17 11:15 bin/ d--x--x--x 2 root root 1024 Feb 17 11:14 etc/ d--x--x--x 2 root root 1024 Feb 17 11:32 lib/ dr-xr-xr-x 6 root root 1024 Feb 11 03:17 pub/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 487 Dec 30 10:59 welcome.msg bin: total 233 ---x--x--x 1 root root45580 Feb 17 11:15 gzip ---x--x--x 1 root root29428 Feb 17 11:15 ls ---x--x--x 1 root root 102380 Feb 17 11:15 tar ---x--x--x 1 root root56156 Feb 17 11:15 zip etc: total 3 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 18 Feb 17 11:15 group -r--r--r-- 1 root root 44 Feb 17 11:15 passwd -r--r--r-- 1 root root 172 Feb 17 11:14 pathmsg lib: total 793 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 161959 Jan 21 10:30 ld-2.0.6.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Feb 17 11:32 ld-linux.so.2 - ld-2.0.6.so -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 643772 Jan 21 10:31 libc-2.0.6.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Feb 17 11:32 libc.so.6 - libc-2.0.6.so [snip of the listing of pub] Output of ldd on /home/ftp/bin/*: (107) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/home/ftp]# ldd bin/* bin/gzip: libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) bin/ls: libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) bin/tar: libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) bin/zip: libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) And yes, it does work. -- Joel Espy KleckerDebian GNU/Linux Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://espy.org/ ftp://ftp.espy.org/pub God shows his contempt for wealth by the kind of person He selects to receive it. -- Austin O'Malley (1858-1952) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized
On 26-Feb-1998, Remco van de Meent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Anyone know of a nice way to keep different CVS servers synchronized with each other? A CVS server is a single entity. If you're looking for ways to reduce load on a CVS server, I have some ideas for that, but I believe multiple servers handling the same source packages is still not a reality for CVS. It's not impossible, but it's a difficult problem to solve. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote: A CVS server is a single entity. If you're looking for ways to reduce load on a CVS server, I have some ideas for that, but I believe multiple Please share, CVS serving on va is not exactly as lightweight as I would hope. Thanks, Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Bradshaw said: Art, is your local user name alemas? My problem is that if I use my isp Yes. And your local user name should be same as what you want as a user name in your e-mail return address (in your case, lee.bradshaw) until we find a solution for sending from any local (local to your machine) account. I'm going to try one more tiny change with Daniel's (hope he doesn't mind) script and get back to you. When we have a complete solution for these kind of accounts (typical dynamic IP PPP's), what say we collaborate to put a good tutorial on a Web page? ;-) Then those who have the know-how can properly format the info for Debian LINUX documentation (or we can learn). By the way, this one replied to you with no header adjustments. _Art I started with a Reply-To: field which I removed once I got the From: line correct. These were the first things I worked on so that other people could reply to my email. I took most of my setup from Daniel Martin's web page. You might ask him to provides links to your page if you want to provide more details on any of the issues. I don't remember seeing a restriction that the local username had to match the remote username. Check out my web page if you want to see all the effort I've put into HTML so far :^) http://www.mindspring.com/~lee.bradshaw/ If I didn't mention this before, I'm not cc'ing you because ipa.net rejects my from lines as spam. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Next Level Communications[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
diagnosing smail
Hi, I'm trying to beat smail down with a stick, am having a little trouble (actually more than a little). Would somebody *PLease* translate into English this brief /etc/smail/config snippet and answer three questions? from_field=From: \ ${if def:ident_sender\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] {$sender${if def:sender_name: ($sender_name)}}} (My interpretation: look at the From: line (or Sender: line, which?), and if the sender's identification code (whatever that means) is non-null (exists), then rewrite that line (which one: From: or Sender: ?) to look like .. here it breaks down, and that extra condition in the last line confuses me.) 1.) What is the difference between the roles of Sender:, Return-path:, and From: lines and are each required according to RFC's? (It was my understanding that there was some contention as to whether the Sender: line was required, but that it was desirable because it acts as an envelope, which is a good thing for some MTA's and MUA's. I'm not clear about the roles of Return-path:, From:, and Sender: or which are required.) 2.) Why does from_field require it begin From: (as shown in the man page below) and does from_field rewrite the From: line, or the Sender: line and how does it decide? (It seems ambiguous.) 8--- man smailconf(5) -8 from_field type: string This string will be expanded to form From: or Sender: fields. The expanded string must begin with From:, which may be replaced by other strings to form an actual header field. The default value is: From: $sender${if def:sender_name: ($sender_name)} 8--8 3.) How can I find out what ident_sender, as well as all other variables, are assigneded as? (I need to know so I can test what is happening; e.g.: when I set visible_name to u.washington.edu, and restart smail and inetd or reboot, there is no change, but I don't know why. I've tried echoing and mailing the variables, but I must be doing it wrong.) I know smail is reading my configuration because smtprewrite is being implemented, and modifying transports to remove and insert headers works, yet my attempts to modify /etc/smail/config have mostly been futile. -- David Stern -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Win95 Dialin Client Config
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I would look at SAMBA (http://samba.anu.edu.au/samba/). I have set it up succesfully under many UNIX flavours, and it works like a dream (allmost out of the box). Cheers, and good luck. - --thomas ps: What is the WINS you're talking about? Sone NIS derivation? On 26-Feb-98 Kevin Traas wrote: Here at work, I've installed a Linux box with a couple of modems hanging off it for dialin access for remote users. Everyone can dialin and access the network, etc. except that there's one little problem that I haven't been able to find any docs / info about None of these dialin users (Win95 or WinNT WS) can browse the network using Network Neighborhood. They get a Can't Browse Network message. However, everything else works fine. I've got a WINS server running and the Linux is a DNS server, so name resolution isn't a problem. However, they can't use the Network Neighborhood to browse to a server, connect a share, etc. Anyone have any ideas on how to get this configured and working? I'd really like to get it working because, well, I'm the one with a bit on the line in suggesting using the Linux box to manage remote dialin users. Now, people are starting to ask why we're not using RAS instead? My thoughts are because it only runs on NT and Microsoft made it... grin... but the people on my end aren't seeing these as good reasons TIA, Kevin Traas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-net in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNPXSx8QLb2bL5bWVAQFDWAQAx6JsJkJVYRL5yp6MkmvV/gHRyFwRGjfh TG+aITaME9NVWFwmKXH6YycuCkVa3Bc9TWx2gJoZKYqh2q23YEP6L3nTkCqRf0nW Fy6apiFJzhFmuGGTxNTOLXBOYnUEMLLzPKPcqJBR2mNu09ci+xIk7Lt4lbK7uc+a HE/OPiXjHH8= =n9Ef -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized
On 26-Feb-1998, Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote: A CVS server is a single entity. If you're looking for ways to reduce load on a CVS server, I have some ideas for that, but I believe multiple Please share, CVS serving on va is not exactly as lightweight as I would hope. Sure. 1. I'm pretty sure the load of an ftp is a lot lower than a cvs checkout. So include CVS directories in distributed source tarballs. This way, developers can just download the source tarball (or unpack it in a new directory) rather than doing a cvs checkout. This is much faster for developers, and will no doubt reduce the load on the server. It might be good to build daily tarballs if there is a lot of activity. Even relatively out-of-date tarballs can just be cvs updated, which should be a little less strain on the server. 2. Make sure all developers use -z9 to compress all files. Putting cvs -z9 in your .cvsrc should do this trick ok. (Unless network traffic is ok, but CPU load is too high, in which case perhaps this does more harm than good!). 3. Keep modules from growing too large. Developers have a tendency to check out entire systems to fix a small bug in just the documentation or other modules. 4. Reduce commit log mail traffic - either batch the mail (one per day?), or reduce number of mails sent. There might be other things that can be done - I'm not sure what's causing load problems with the server on va, but these are some of the things I'd try. I've never seen remote CVS used on a very large scale (e.g. hundreds of modules) so I'm not sure how well it scales yet. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Possible new name for deity
We are thinking about using Trove as the name for the project that has been code-named Deity until now. How about druid or pdruid (for package druid)? I don't care what they call it as long as it doesn't start with dpkg-somthing or kpkg-something. rpm may not be a better technology but it is easy to type/remember -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote: There might be other things that can be done - I'm not sure what's causing load problems with the server on va, but these are some of the things I'd try. I've never seen remote CVS used on a very large scale (e.g. hundreds of modules) so I'm not sure how well it scales yet. Va has this tendancy to have CVS processes using 30Meg of ram and minutes (on a PPro200!) of cpu power - I have yet to figure out why or how. Typical cvs's only use about 1-4M of ram.. Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
2.0.33 kernel and libc6 dependancies
Hi, all -- I just recompiled my own version of 2.0.33 kernel, based on 2.0.33_2.0.33-3 source package. Everything runs fine for the time being, and the only question I have is : how do you get rid of the kernel-source-2.0.32_2.0.32-3 package? It takes up a whole lot of space on my machine and it does absolutely nothing now that the 2.0.33 is current one. I tried to purge it (after I have installed kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-3.deb package), but I got the message that libc6-dev_2.0.6-2.deb package depends on it and it refuses to remove it. Doing a dpkg-deb --info libc6-dev_2.0.7pre1-2.deb aso shows a dependancy to the kernel-source-2.0.32. Any hints? thanks Damir -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized
On 26-Feb-1998, Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote: There might be other things that can be done - I'm not sure what's causing load problems with the server on va, but these are some of the things I'd try. I've never seen remote CVS used on a very large scale (e.g. hundreds of modules) so I'm not sure how well it scales yet. Va has this tendancy to have CVS processes using 30Meg of ram and minutes (on a PPro200!) of cpu power - I have yet to figure out why or how. Typical cvs's only use about 1-4M of ram.. This is very strange. comp.software.config-mgmt is a good newsgroup to ask CVS questions, perhaps you should try there? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: trouble with the boot-block..
The install and rescue floppies are indeed supposed to use the ramfs. Obviously the install floppy has to since at least most of the time there will be no other linux filesystem available. However, the rescue floppy does also because it has to be able to boot fully even if the root partition is corrupt (and allow you to attempt to repair same). So a boot floppy is yet a different critter and contains a kernel that has been patched (with rdev) to have your normal root partition set. When you boot the installation disks and answer the first few questions (color monitor, keyboard, etc), the hit an alt-F2 to access the second console. type 'mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /target [replacing /dev/hda1 with whatever is appropriate for your configuration of course] Lilo can remove lilo but the installation disks do not 'know' that lilo was previously installed and thus take no action when you choose not to use lilo--so yes, if you installed lilo and did not do something like fdisk/mbr is DOS or explicitly replace the boot record using the lilo command then lilo is still present. A lilo config file looks something like this: bash-2.01$ cat /etc/lilo.conf boot = /dev/hda - disk to boot from prompt - prompt for boot choices during boot timeout = 50 - continue boot with default if no response compact - kernel is compressed install = /boot/boot.b - location of the boot code map = /boot/map - location of the system map file vga = normal - vga display mode to use delay = 20 - i don't remember image = /vmlinuz - name location of the linux kernel to load root = /dev/hda4 - system root device to use label = Linux - name for this instance of system read-only - always initially mount root read only vga = 9 - vga mode to use for this instance image = /vmlinuz.old - last kernel root = /dev/hda4 label = bklinux read-only vga = 9 image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.27 - a linux bo distribution system. root = /dev/hdb3 label = olinux read-only vga = 9 image = /vmlinuz.test - a linux testing partition root = /dev/hdb5 label = test read-only vga = 9 other=/dev/hda1 - an non-linux system table = /dev/hda - location of drive structure label = DOS - instance lable (and it is MSDOS) The lilo documentation is extensive and probably the about the best documentation in the entire Linux project but you do need to study it rather carefully if you want to be able to handle everything without problems. Most things can be given 'defaults' in the general section (the section before the first image = line and then overridden in the individual sections. Gary Kline wrote: According to Jean Pierre LeJacq: On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote: According to Jean Pierre LeJacq: On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote: However, after installing Debian on my first and third SCSI drives and *not* using LILO as the boot manager, I found that I __always__ boot into Debian, into a RAM file system. After re-installing both OS's from scratch several times I've come to the conclusion that something is causing the master boot track to always throw me into the re-install RAM-fs of Linux. Are you booting from the rescue floppy disk. If yes, then indeed you will be using the RAM-fs. You can either use the boot floppy disk or LILO installed on the hard disk. Both the hard drive and the rescue floppy throw me into the RAM-fs. (In fact, trying to re-install FreeBSD from its floppy disk is impossible.) Does the same thing happen when booting from your boot floppy? Did you install LILO on the harddisk? If so, send me the /etc/lilo.conf. Yes, once I did install LILO to my harddisk; then I brought up the menu again and chose ``NO'' when asked. Evidently, once the loader installs, it's forever! I'll have to check /etc/lilo.conf (if I can get to it) tonight my time. Last night I poked around using the ash shell but couldn't make much sense of the fs layout. Would lilo.conf perhaps be in /target/etc/lilo.conf? BTW, this (Debian + FBSD) is on a separate box. Not yet linked to the rest of the world... . gary -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL
scsi: tape drive gets ONE partition's signals, load reaches 17.
For four months, I noticed no problems with my tape drive or my disk drive. In the last two weeks, I have updated a few packages in hamm, but not many. I now have two indicators that just one partition (out of 8+ partitions) on my disk drive gets its signals diverted to the tape drive. 1. mke2fs -c /dev/sdc12 results in a churning of the tape /dev/st0 for 30 minutes until I kill the process. Then I have difficulty typing a character as the load meter shows 17 horizontal lines. 2. When making backups, only the partition /dev/sdc12 fails. If I duplicate its contents to another partition, dump succeeds. Again, dumping to this /dev/sdc12 partition churns the tape drive for at least 30 minutes until I kill the dump command. The above disk drive is a wide 9GB Fujitsu. The above tape drive is an old Exabyte 8200 8mm. I have two other narrow 2GB Seagate drives externally attached. All these scsi devices are attached to an Adaptec 2940UW adapter. Because of this mixing of scsi signals between one disk drive partition and the tape drive, I no longer use the partition /dev/sdc12. The setup of my Adaptec 2940UW refuses any ultra scsi protocol, preventing an ultra problem. This cross-signal problem seems inexplicable. Has anyone any explanations/solutions? -- Jim Burt, NJ9L, Fairfax, Virginia, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mnsinc.com/jameson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not the shortcomings of others, nor what others have done or not done that one should think about, but what one has done or not done oneself. --Dhammapada [dp command for quotes from the Dhammapada, in Linux] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Help!! --/dev/ttyS0 input overflow error --
Hi everyone, I wote some code to manage a data aquisition device in the labs. It runs for a while (say 24 hrs, gathering data every 6 secs [x 50 data points]) then it crashes, crashes bad (segmentation fault) /dev/ttyS0 input overflow ... does anyone know what is causing this?? I began to get these on one of my systems, I disabled the com port in the bios and added a serial card... works fine now. The office building is very supceptable to close lightning strikes, and I presume emf is inducing current into the serial/mouse lines, frying it :( -- Walter L. Preuninger IIwaldo @ irc.wasteland.org:#unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] L I N U X Where You Really Should Be! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bad blocks
Normally you would boot from a rescue floppy for such maintenance activities and mount your filesystem read only. I haven't had to do this in a long time but it also seems to me that you can boot to single user and remount root as read only. FizzyPop wrote: I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I figure it's all bad blocks. I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them. So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD for errors. Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, how can I load linux sans mounting the HD? does it work if I boot from a floppy? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Memory Usage Reports
This certainly isn't any sort of answer to your question but does anyone know of hand if Linux frees shared code (libraries, maybe fonts) as soon as there is no code using it or does it wait until the memory is actually needed). i did look through some of the loader code and discussions about Linux memory management but it was not for this reason and it was quite some time ago... tony mollica wrote: Thanks for the reply. One other question I have isat what point does linux remove a program or its parts from memory after you have unloaded (closed) the programs in order to make use of that memory for other programs? Do you know where I can find more information on this? I haven't been able to find any info with any detail. thanks, -- tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 2.0.33 kernel and libc6 dependancies
Hummm, I have not tried that yet but it should work. When I do a dpkg --status libc6-dev it shows the dependency as kernel-source-2.0.32 (= 2.0.32-2) so your 2.0.33 should meet that requirement. Damir J. Naden wrote: Hi, all -- I just recompiled my own version of 2.0.33 kernel, based on 2.0.33_2.0.33-3 source package. Everything runs fine for the time being, and the only question I have is : how do you get rid of the kernel-source-2.0.32_2.0.32-3 package? It takes up a whole lot of space on my machine and it does absolutely nothing now that the 2.0.33 is current one. I tried to purge it (after I have installed kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-3.deb package), but I got the message that libc6-dev_2.0.6-2.deb package depends on it and it refuses to remove it. Doing a dpkg-deb --info libc6-dev_2.0.7pre1-2.deb aso shows a dependancy to the kernel-source-2.0.32. Any hints? thanks Damir -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bad blocks
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:12:29PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote: I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I figure it's all bad blocks. I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them. So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD for errors. Use the badblocks(8) program. Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, how can I load linux sans mounting the HD? does it work if I boot from a floppy? It shouldn't be a problem to run badblocks while the HD is mounted; it does not write to the drive, just reads from it. Hmmm. If badblocks doesn't write to the drive, how will this help? e2fsck -c /dev/hda2 will run e2fsck, and it will run badblocks, and note the blocks as bad and move all the data it can to other places. Note that these IDE disk errors can be power supply related. Most of the errors I was having with a disk went away when I replaced the power supply. One bad sector remained which I fixed with e2fsck. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
HELP: Got in security trouble.
Hello, If you know good documentation/Web pages about Security of Debian system and especially Web server, and how to set them right on Debian Box, please send me a note. Below is yet another story of hacker attack, which you may just ignore. Sorry if it is not exactly Debian issue. Thank you, Sasha. -- ONE MORE STORY ABOUT HACKERS ATTACK -- Well it may be true that there really is a hacker contest these days. Here is the story: couple of days ago hacker broke into our SGI system, managed to get root password but was noticed very quickly (like 20 minutes). Did not do any harm to our knowledge. We are academic institution, and there is really not much of interest. Our system administrator was swearting for 3 day to figure out that he/she broke through WWW server using security hole in CGI module to steal vital file which they used to break in. It turned out that it was me who convince A to install this CGI module, which apparently I did not compile with all security knobs turned on in my laziness. Well the module is erased and good chunk of my pages that I was so proud of are gone. Right now System administrator is extremely concerned and I have very little chances to convince him to put my pages back. So perhaps I'll put them on my Debian box, but now (welcome to hell) I need to manage WWW security there. SPECIFIC QUESTIONS: 1. Is Apache WWW server considered reasonably secure? 2. I used CGI module for WWW interface to MySQL database, any recommendations for good-free-secure one? 3. We know when the hacker tried to login, and from where, (from AOL for example) Are there any friendly communities on the Web to contact to try to chase him down? (But I'm not sure it's worth the effort). Any thoughts about what bad things this hacker could possibly leave and we need to remove? Thanks again, Sasha. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X crashes
Hi, My X crashes quite often. It happens usually after I run netscape communicator but I am not so sure that it's caused by that. Nothing special is running usually, just few Xterms and when I try to switch screens it just crashes and exits to bash prompt. I use afterstep window manager. Does anyone know what might cause this and how could I avoid it? Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Possible new name for deity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote We are thinking about using Trove as the name for the project that has been code-named Deity until now. What a pity, I'd love to see the deity install satan :) Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Possible new name for deity
Red Hat already did Disk Druid. what about ppenguin, the package penguin? Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
diagnosing smail (2)
Hi, This is a slightly shorter version of some questions I asked earlier regarding smail configuration. I've read all the smail docs available and there is no definitive smail resource, so I'd really appreciate it if someone would *PLease* take a few moments to reply. 1.) How can I find out what ident_sender, as well as all other variables, are assigneded as? (I need to know so I can test what is happening; e.g.: when I set visible_name to u.washington.edu, and restart smail and inetd or reboot, there is no change, but I don't know why. I've tried echoing and mailing the variables, but I must be doing it wrong.) 2.) Why does from_field require it begin From: (as shown in the man page below) and does from_field rewrite the From: line, or the Sender: line and how does it decide? (It seems ambiguous.) 8--- man smailconf(5) -8 from_field type: string This string will be expanded to form From: or Sender: fields. The expanded string must begin with From:, which may be replaced by other strings to form an actual header field. The default value is: From: $sender${if def:sender_name: ($sender_name)} 8--8 3.) What is the difference between the roles of Sender:, Return-path:, and From: lines and are each required according to RFC's? (It was my understanding that there was some contention as to whether the Sender: line was required, but that it was desirable because it acts as an envelope, which is a good thing for some MTA's and MUA's. I'm not clear about the roles of Return-path:, From:, and Sender: or which are required.) Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- David Stern -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dump screen to file
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote: How can I dumb the console screen to a file via a bash shell command (or program)? man xwd man import (in ImageMagick package) -- Jean-Michel Rouet (thesard Dpt ITI) | Tel : +33 298 001 730 ENST de Bretagne| email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29285 Brest Cedex | France | http://www-iti.enst-bretagne.fr/~rouet/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 2.0.33 kernel and libc6 dependancies
Hi, Create or download a kernel-headers-2.0.32 package, and install that. Then you should be able to remove the kernel sources. manoj -- Time is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't happen at once. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: stm (was Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message))
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Benoit Goudreault-Emond wrote: [A heck of a lot clipped] I hope that will be of some use to you. Apparently not... I am beginning to think I need to raise some money for a new monitor.. :( limits: 30-50 horiz 50-75 Vert Oh well... Well, you can change the first number on the modeline, I beleive it's the dot clock. Lowering that will allow you to drive the monitor at a lower synch rate. 'Sides, I had a monitor which had about the same specs once, and I ran @ 100x37 but at ~70 Hz, IIRC. You should be able to do the same (hint: you should be able to drive the 100x37 mode at the same frequency you drive your monitor when in 800x600 graphical mode). Unfortunately, I don't know what happened to that particular configuration. Sorry. Hmm, I used to have that running with my tseng et4000, but when I went to my new s3 virge, It died completely... anyway, 80x34 is fine... 80x25 is just too large... I hate DOS so much... :) Again, be darn careful when fooling around with SVGATextMode. Keep one console with stm 80x25 ready, and your finger on the monitor's off switch. :) I think that goes without saying... Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- WinErr: 006 Malicious error - Desqview found on drive --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
i made a mess with dselect
tonight,i got dselect to upgrade my debian distribution,i connected to the ftp.debian.org site (via dselect),cd to /debian,it updated her package.gz file,and i choosen to install all package suggested by dselect in the install menu,but the installation has gone wrong,i tried to undo the change but this only got me in trouble (i'm a beginner only using debian since 4th january),here's what i want to know,i need to save my personnal mail,i want to wipe-out the linux partition and re-install thing up (i'm using a CD from boot magazine to install debian on my computer): 1-:my mail is stored in /var/spool/mail/$USER (i.e.my username),do i need just to copy this file (to another partition) and when i'm done,i re-copy the file to it original place (i.e. /var/spool/mail/$USER) and pine will acomodate it ?? 2-:if i wipe-out my hard disk,does PPP networking would be available on the boot,root and install disk so that instead of using the CD,i could connect directly to the net for the latest distribution ?? 3 (and last)-:the distribution on the CD is debian 1.3.0 and the one from ftp.debian.org is 1.3.1r6 (i think..i'm not sure),does it is worth the trouble to connect to the net for the latest release or i'm better of keeping the CD version ?? thanks a lot Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
r* commands don't work
Hi, I sent a message about this when I had the problem at my last job. I left the job before ever resolving this. I'm at a new job now and I'm trying to integrate linux somehow into our environment. I plan on using linux for some minor development at first, just to get some linux machines in there. However, I still can't get the r* commands to work. I do this every day on Solaris, SunOS, and formerly HP-UX. Can someone tell my why this doesn't work? I can't even get two linux boxes to talk to each other much less a Sun box. I opened up .rhosts for root, hosts.equiv for everyone else, and even .rhosts for myself, but to no avail. I have no hosts.allow or hosts.deny file, nor am I using tcpd at all. Host names resolve via DNS or /etc/hosts with no problem. I tried having the hostname returned by uname -n be fully qualified just in case the linux r* commands are picky about that, but they shouldn't be with a + in these files! Nothing works, and its pretty annoying. It really renders the project useless if I can't get root access without needing passwords since I need to do stuff in scripts. I need rsh as well as rdist capabilities. Ssh is not an option at the moment, and really isn't the issue anyway. Shouldn't this just work?? What can I do to provide useful debuggin information? auth.log and daemon.log give standard permission denied crap. I modified inetd.conf to have: login stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/strace \ /usr/bin/strace -fv -o/tmp/OUT /usr/sbin/in.rlogind (the line continuation is just for this mail, its not in the file). I modified rshd similarly. I have the strace files, but they didn't shed any light on it from my house. I'd be glad to send them to someone who would be able to make better use of them. I'm open to any other suggestions as well. By the by, all other network related communications work OK, including YP client services, NFS, telnet, ftp, http, imap, ldap, etc. Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, -- Until we extend the circle of our compassion to all living things, we will not ourselves find peace -Albert Schweitzer Richard G. Roberto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: i made a mess with dselect
Hi, As is pointed out on the Debian site, you can get a really low priced version of the Official Debian CD from several web sites for around $5 or $6 if you don't want to download the entire distribution off the net. I would mention the company but I am not sure if that it considered advertisment on this list. Check out the Debian web site. I think it is very worth it to have the latest stable release of any software package or distribution. -Ossama __ Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- PGP Keys --- Public: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_PUBLIC.asc REVOKED: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_REVOKED.asc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
AW: r* commands don't work
Richard G. Roberto asked: [...] However, I still can't get the r* commands to work. [...] I opened up .rhosts for root, hosts.equiv for everyone else, and even .rhosts for myself, but to no avail. [...] Let's review your setup. You want to be able to rsh/rlogin to root on a remote system, right? Did you - allow root to login from remote by adding the ttyp* consoles to /etc/securetty (man 5 securetty)? - enable .rhosts for the superuser by adding -h to the in.rlogind optionlist in /etc/inetd.conf (man 8 rlogind)? That's all you need to do to get this working on a bo R6 system. I just tried it on one of my boxes, and it worked just fine. OT: Aren't you on the TLUG list, too? HTH, -- Thomas Baetzler -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
upgrading to current smail
I've had to install the bo smail, and leave it htere the last few months. About the time the spam provisions went in, the new smails don't seem to talk to the outside world; everything bounces both ways. I last tried a hamm version last week. However,every time i reinstall bo's, it all works fine. Is there a doc somewhere on debugging after the upgrade? rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bad blocks
Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, how can I load linux sans mounting the HD? does it work if I boot from a floppy? It shouldn't be a problem to run badblocks while the HD is mounted; it does not write to the drive, just reads from it. Hmmm. If badblocks doesn't write to the drive, how will this help? e2fsck -c /dev/hda2 will run e2fsck, and it will run badblocks, and note the blocks as bad and move all the data it can to other places. Running badblocks by itself first is a good way to determine whether you should just do an `e2fsck -c' or whether it's time to buy a new drive :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: AW: r* commands don't work
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard G. Roberto asked: [...] However, I still can't get the r* commands to work. [...] I opened up .rhosts for root, hosts.equiv for everyone else, and even .rhosts for myself, but to no avail. [...] Let's review your setup. You want to be able to rsh/rlogin to root on a remote system, right? Did you I my other mail I said that I need to do rsh and rdist. - allow root to login from remote by adding the ttyp* consoles to /etc/securetty (man 5 securetty)? Done. I can log in via rlogin (requiring a password) or telnet with no problem. Again, I said that in my last mail as well. - enable .rhosts for the superuser by adding -h to the in.rlogind optionlist in /etc/inetd.conf (man 8 rlogind)? on my system: RLOGIND(8) UNIX System Manager's Manual RLOGIND(8) NAME rlogind - remote login server SYNOPSIS rlogind [-aln] DESCRIPTION Rlogind is the server for the rlogin(1) program. The server provides a remote login facility with authentication based on privileged port num bers from trusted hosts. Options supported by rlogind: -a Ask hostname for verification. -l Prevent any authentication based on the user's ``.rhosts'' file, unless the user is logging in as the superuser. -n Disable keep-alive messages. It goes on to describe that authentication is done as described in the rshd man page. Besides, I'm very much more interested in rsh anyway. There is no mention of a -h option, but there is mention of the ruserok system call, and its manpage, but I can't find that man page. Also, I can't do this as myself either -- or any user, as stated in my last mail. I have netstd 2.05-1 and netbase 2.04-1 with libc5 5.4.20-1. That's all you need to do to get this working on a bo R6 system. I just tried it on one of my boxes, and it worked just fine. I'm not sure what bo R6 means, but the packages listed above should be useful to someone as a checkpoint. I'd like to install hamm from scratch, but I can't get the install disks to work. OT: Aren't you on the TLUG list, too? What's the TLUG list? I'm on the ptk list but that's got nothing to do with this, nor is it even linux specific. Thanks -- Until we extend the circle of our compassion to all living things, we will not ourselves find peace -Albert Schweitzer Richard G. Roberto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
php3 + apache = undefined `table_elts'
hello i'm using: php3 version 3.0b4-1 apache version 1.3b5-2 after having enabled the loading of php3 module in the apache config, i've got the following error while restarting the apache daemon: Restarting apache daemon...Syntax error on line 93 of /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf: dlopen() error in mod_dlopen: /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_php3.so: undefined symbol: table_elts loading php3_module failed. how come that `table_elts' is not defined? has someone been more succesful than me? thanks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
AW: AW: r* commands don't work
Hello Richard, you wrote: [...] - enable .rhosts for the superuser by adding -h to the in.rlogind optionlist in /etc/inetd.conf (man 8 rlogind)? on my system: [no -h in man 8 rlogind. Hmmm...] I have netstd 2.05-1 and netbase 2.04-1 with libc5 5.4.20-1. This might be part of the problem. I have netbase and netstd 2.16-1 and libc5 5.4.33-6. bo R6 means that I'm talking about Debian 1.3.1 R6, i.e. the stuff that's the current stable release that's out on the FTP servers. What's the TLUG list? I'm on the ptk list but that's got nothing to do with this, nor is it even linux specific. It's the Tokyo Linux User's Group's Mailing List. Seeing that you're from *.jp I was wondering wether you knew about it. While it's not particularly Debian-centric, it's a great place to get general and JP-related Linux info. HTH, -- Thomas Baetzler -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: r* commands don't work
Richard G. Roberto wrote: I opened up .rhosts for root, hosts.equiv for everyone else, and even .rhosts for myself, but to no avail. I have no hosts.allow or hosts.deny file, nor am I using tcpd at all. Host names resolve via DNS or /etc/hosts with no problem. I tried having the hostname returned by uname -n be fully qualified just in case the linux r* commands are picky about that, but they shouldn't be with a + in these files! Nothing works, and its pretty annoying. It really renders the project useless if I can't get root access without needing passwords since I need to do stuff in scripts. I need rsh as well as rdist capabilities. Ssh is not an option at the moment, and really isn't the issue anyway. Part of the security behind the .rhosts files are that they will not work unless they are mode 644. This way only the owner can add to them. Make sure the ownership is correct too. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps You mind if I smoke? Joan D'Arc ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.
Sasha writes: Below is yet another story of hacker attack,... Please do not refer to these people as hackers. This is not Newsweek. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: diagnosing smail (2)
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, David Stern wrote: This is a slightly shorter version of some questions I asked earlier regarding smail configuration. I've read all the smail docs available and there is no definitive smail resource, so I'd really appreciate it if someone would *PLease* take a few moments to reply. I'm no smail expert but here goes. There is an smail mailing list which you should find useful: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.) How can I find out what ident_sender, as well as all other variables, are assigneded as? (I need to know so I can test what is happening; e.g.: when I set visible_name to u.washington.edu, and restart smail and inetd or reboot, there is no change, but I don't know why. I've tried echoing and mailing the variables, but I must be doing it wrong.) Use the rewriting rules as in your 2nd question and included and variable you like with the prefix $. 2.) Why does from_field require it begin From: (as shown in the man page below) and does from_field rewrite the From: line, or the Sender: line and how does it decide? (It seems ambiguous.) I believe the From: is required by IETF standards. 3.) What is the difference between the roles of Sender:, Return-path:, and From: lines and are each required according to RFC's? (It was my understanding that there was some contention as to whether the Sender: line was required, but that it was desirable because it acts as an envelope, which is a good thing for some MTA's and MUA's. I'm not clear about the roles of Return-path:, From:, and Sender: or which are required.) Not sure on this one. From: is always required. The others are optional. For example, pine will prompt the user if Return-path: is defined in the message if they would prefer to use that instead of From: . -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.
Below is yet another story of hacker attack,... Please do not refer to these people as hackers. This is not Newsweek. Okay...then what are they? Gremlins? Heh..sorry. :-) In all seriousness, what would you call them? I understand that those of us who hack code to improve it may also be called hackers, such as Linux kernel hackers. The rest of the world external to the computer world seems to have adopted the term hacker to mean a person who performs computer/network related malicious acts. Who is right and who is wrong? I would have to say neither. Each of us is entitled to their own interpretation. Thank you for taking Hacker Philosophy 101. We now return you to your Debian scheduled program. :-) -Ossama -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: still crashing -- narrowing it down some though
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Marcin Kadziolka wrote: Have you got any related messages in /var/log/kern* or something? Not a thing. (I don't have a /var/log/kern* directory -- just /var/log/messages ...) The last entry in /var/log/messages is the last line from bootup, and the next entry is the restart message I get after I turn the computer off and back on when it crashes. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | So don't beg, and don't plead. | | You can't have the heart you make bleed. | |-- The Beautiful South, Love is... | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Netscape doesn't save ftp messages
I've had this problem for a long time, but have been ignoring it. When ever I click on a link using Netscape that is of the form ftp://ftp.xyz.com/dir/file the file is displayed in the netscape window. That's sorta OK for text files, but binary files do the same thing. On other versions of netscape it brings up a save file dialog. I'm running Netscape 3.01, and Debian 1.3. How do I fix this? Thanks, Jim. Jim Lynch, SGI/Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.
Below is yet another story of hacker attack,... Please do not refer to these people as hackers. This is not Newsweek. Okay...then what are they? Gremlins? Heh..sorry. :-) :cracker: /n./ One who breaks security on a system. Coined ca. 1985 by hackers in defense against journalistic misuse of {hacker} (q.v., sense 8). An earlier attempt to establish `worm' in this sense around 1981--82 on Usenet was largely a failure. It's in the jargon file, that indispensable source of information for those who know everything better ;) Of course it is in it's own debian package as an info file. Eric -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: : : Below is yet another story of hacker attack,... : : Please do not refer to these people as hackers. This is not Newsweek. : : Okay...then what are they? Gremlins? Heh..sorry. :-) : : In all seriousness, what would you call them? I understand that those of : us who hack code to improve it may also be called hackers, such as Linux : kernel hackers. The rest of the world external to the computer world : seems to have adopted the term hacker to mean a person who performs : computer/network related malicious acts. How about crackers, criminals, miscreants, vandals ... : Who is right and who is wrong? I would have to say neither. Each of us : is entitled to their own interpretation. Sure. You're entitled to any interpretation you please, but that doesn't make you right. Take a look at the jargon file. : Thank you for taking Hacker Philosophy 101. We now return you to your : Debian scheduled program. :-) : : -Ossama -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: A need to manualy run /etc/cron.weekly/man-db
On Wed, Feb 25, 1998 at 11:02:08PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And after I turned on the power, rebooted and logged again, I got a segmentation fault whenever I tried to man -w something. Only after manualy running the script the man -w something worked. Has someone else experienced this ? Yes. Please refer to the Debian-user faq: http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=58showEditCmds=1 it´s because the database of man-db is corrupted. The above reference (fom?...) is claims that the DB is getting corrupted and that rebuliding it solves the problem. This is seems to an answer. However, it is also said that the DB corruption is due to a failed search. But my claim is that the corruption appears after using the reboot or shutdown command from an xterm. Furthere, when I reboot or shutdown the machine from a VT (after switching to a VT using ctrl+alt+F?), the DB does not get corrupted. Is this a bug ? This reference to the reboot (and a previous one to running xman) make me suspicious. I wasn't able to corrupt the db even when turnung off the machine during use of man. The only corruption that I have seen is the one drived by use of the utility info which is solved by version 2.3.10-45 . which version are you running ( dpkg -s man-db can tell you)? However the newest version of man-db for bo (libc5) is available in bo-unstable (2.3.10-59bo61) toghether with a safer version of groff. fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | LÃder Minimo del Pluto- Debian Developer Happy Debian User | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E more than 34 months are needed to get rid of the millennium. [me] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problem with deinstalling emacs20
Hi, I can not (completely) deinstall emacs20. I have removed all emacs* packages, including emacs, emacs19, but I do not get rid of emacs20. This is not WinExploder in disguise, is it? ;-) I want to remove it because I had the impression it did not install properly. How do I get rid of it (without installing the whole system again)? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~dpkg -l emacs* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- pn emacs none (no description available) pn emacs-czech none (no description available) pn emacs-elnone (no description available) pn emacs-lisp-intr none (no description available) un emacs19 none (no description available) pF emacs20 20.2-2 The GNU Emacs editor. pn emacs20-el none (no description available) un emacsen none (no description available) pn emacsen-common none (no description available) pn emacspeak none (no description available) pn emacspeak-dtnone (no description available) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~dpkg --purge emacs20 (Reading database ... 24882 files and directories currently installed.) Removing emacs20 ... Checking available versions of ctags, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Discarding obsolete slave link ctags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/ctags.1.gz). Last package providing ctags (/usr/bin/ctags) removed, deleting it. Checking available versions of etags, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Discarding obsolete slave link etags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/etags.1.gz). Last package providing etags (/usr/bin/etags) removed, deleting it. Checking available versions of b2m, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Last package providing b2m (/usr/bin/b2m) removed, deleting it. Checking available versions of emacsclient, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Last package providing emacsclient (/usr/bin/emacsclient) removed, deleting it. Checking available versions of rcs-checkin, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Last package providing rcs-checkin (/usr/bin/rcs-checkin) removed, deleting it. Checking available versions of emacs, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Discarding obsolete slave link emacs.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/emacs.1.gz). Last package providing emacs (/usr/bin/emacs) removed, deleting it. /var/lib/dpkg/info/emacs20.prerm: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--purge): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 Checking available versions of ctags, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Updating ctags (/usr/bin/ctags) to point to /usr/bin/ctags.emacs20. Updating ctags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/ctags.1.gz) to point to /usr/man/man1/ctags.1emacs20.gz. Checking available versions of etags, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Updating etags (/usr/bin/etags) to point to /usr/bin/etags.emacs20. Updating etags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/etags.1.gz) to point to /usr/man/man1/etags.1emacs20.gz. Checking available versions of b2m, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Updating b2m (/usr/bin/b2m) to point to /usr/bin/b2m.emacs20. Checking available versions of emacsclient, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Updating emacsclient (/usr/bin/emacsclient) to point to /usr/bin/emacsclient.emacs20. Checking available versions of rcs-checkin, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Updating rcs-checkin (/usr/bin/rcs-checkin) to point to /usr/bin/rcs-checkin.emacs20. Checking available versions of emacs, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see an ln'.) Updating emacs (/usr/bin/emacs) to point to /usr/bin/emacs-20.2. Updating emacs.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/emacs.1.gz) to point to /usr/man/man1/emacs.1emacs20.gz. Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish (forking to background) Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock) /var/lib/dpkg/info/emacs20.postinst:
hard disk not ready - newbie, please forgive me!
I have a machine with an EIDE drive and a SCSI 1.3GB The SCSI is an old HP mainframe drive with 255 heads, 164 cylinders, and 63 sectors. I am able to use the rescue disk to start the debian install, and then modify the settings with the expert commands withing FDISK so that it doesn't see 1024 cylinders. After creating partitions, I went to initilize the partition for linux, and it tells me the drive is not ready. Any idea what this means? Do I need to format the drive or something? What settings do I need to enable/disable to have the root partition and swap partitions set up on the drive? Thanks, Andy Infante Forwarded with Changes --- From: ANDREW J INFANTE at RANC021L Date: 2/27/98 8:59AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INTERNET Subject: hard disk not ready - newbie, please forgive me! --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.
: Who is right and who is wrong? I would have to say neither. Each of us : is entitled to their own interpretation. Sure. You're entitled to any interpretation you please, but that doesn't make you right. Take a look at the jargon file. Hey, I agree that the term hacker is misused. However, just because something is in some jargon file doesn't make it right either. History books, for example, are many times right from the author's point of view but may be completely incorrect from the point of view of the people that the history book describes. You say potato, I say POTATO. (Need some voice e-mail for this one :P) Again, I do agree with you on the misuse of the term hacker. (This is just a preventative measure on my part so that I don`t nailed with flames...heh.) Sorry to keep this thread on the Debian list, guys. -Ossama -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape doesn't save ftp messages
I've had this problem for a long time, but have been ignoring it. When ever I click on a link using Netscape that is of the form ftp://ftp.xyz.com/dir/file the file is displayed in the netscape window. That's sorta OK for text files, but binary files do the same thing. On other versions of netscape it brings up a save file dialog. I'm running Netscape 3.01, and Debian 1.3. How do I fix this? Right click on the link and choose Save link as ... Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: diagnosing smail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: Hi, I'm trying to beat smail down with a stick, am having a little trouble (actually more than a little). Would somebody *PLease* translate into English this brief /etc/smail/config snippet and answer three questions? from_field=From: \ ${if def:ident_sender\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] {$sender${if def:sender_name: ($sender_name)}}} (My interpretation: look at the From: line (or Sender: line, which?), and if the sender's identification code (whatever that means) is non-null (exists), then rewrite that line (which one: From: or Sender: ?) to look like .. here it breaks down, and that extra condition in the last line confuses me.) My interpretation is that smail only makes use of the from_field variable if incoming mail has no From: or Sender: fields already; further, if there is a From: field already, then smail inserts a Sender: field using the from_field information only if the pre-existing From: field doesn't match what smail would have written with from_field. 1.) What is the difference between the roles of Sender:, Return-path:, and From: lines and are each required according to RFC's? (It was my understanding that there was some contention as to whether the Sender: line was required, but that it was desirable because it acts as an envelope, which is a good thing for some MTA's and MUA's. I'm not clear about the roles of Return-path:, From:, and Sender: or which are required.) Ok - the idea is that the From: line should be the email address of the person the mail is from, whereas the Sender: is the email address of the account the mail is from, if that's different. (Sender: headers are not required if the From: address also represents the account the mail comes from). Return-path: headers I don't quite understand; from what I can tell, they're used at this point mostly for automated error messages, and should only be inserted by the final MTA in the mail delivery process. What doesn't make sense about this to me is that often the last MTA may not have a clue as to how to go about returning mail, whereas the first MTA in the process has a chance of knowing how to get back to itself. Perhaps this makes more sense in a UUCP environment. 2.) Why does from_field require it begin From: (as shown in the man page below) and does from_field rewrite the From: line, or the Sender: line and how does it decide? (It seems ambiguous.) I think there are historic reasons (before from_field was used for Sender: fields) for having it begin with From:. 3.) How can I find out what ident_sender, as well as all other variables, are assigneded as? (I need to know so I can test what is happening; e.g.: when I set visible_name to u.washington.edu, and restart smail and inetd or reboot, there is no change, but I don't know why. I've tried echoing and mailing the variables, but I must be doing it wrong.) The best thing I can think of is a transport using the pipe driver. Try adding the following to your /etc/smail/routers (before any smarthost directive, of course): match-fake-diag-addrs: driver=gethostbyname, transport=diagnosticpipe; required=diagnostic Then add the following (anywhere) to your /etc/smail/transports file: diagnosticpipe: driver = pipe; cmd = /etc/smail/diagnostic.pl ${if def:ident_sender \ {$ident_sender} {no_ident_sender}} ${if \ origin:local {origin:local} {origin:remote}}, umask = 0022 You can add arguments to the cmd above if there's anything else you want to find out about that isn't already shown in the environment. Then, make the following short perl script /etc/smail/diagnostic.pl (and make it executable): #!/usr/bin/perl open(STDOUT, /tmp/smaildiag.$$); $| = 1; foreach (@ARGV) { print argument: $_\n; } print ---env:\n; system(env); print --stdin:\n; system(cat); Finally, add the following line to your /etc/hosts file: 192.68.42.47dummyhost.diagnostic Now, any mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will get logged to a file of the form /tmp/smaildiag.* Now, one strong word of caution: I've been trying this, and can't get it to work, quite - apparently (at least with the smail I have), it's an expansion error to include a ${if ... } clause in the cmd attribute - yes, I know this doesn't make sense, but apparently it's true. (why smail would use different string expansion rules in different places and NOT DOCUMENT IT is beyond me.) Maybe, though, it's just a bug in my 3.2-3 smail. (I hope so, because it's certainly broken behavior) I can get it to work if I cut out all the if clauses. (Well actually, it then only works when it should according to the documentation - that is, /etc/smail/diagnostic.pl $ident_sender works only when ident_sender is defined) If smail 3.100 has similar problems, that could explain why things aren't working well, if you have a ${if ... } expansion in an insert_header
Re: diagnosing smail (2)
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not sure on this one. From: is always required. The others are optional. For example, pine will prompt the user if Return-path: is defined in the message if they would prefer to use that instead of From: . You're confusing Return-Path: with Reply-To:. Return-path: is an entirely different beast. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X install/config query
Hello: I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete the process correctly. X was not configured (although everything else that I have tried seems to be). I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system. Should I remove X and re-install, or is there another way? Thanks, Dean Provins -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
What is /var/log/messages telling me???
I looked in my /var/log/messages and found the following lines (where I have removed any specific names and/or IP's). What are these lines telling me? Feb 24 06:54:45 shroom syslogd 1.3-3#22: restart. Feb 24 13:34:21 shroom kernel: ICMP redirect from IP.IP.IP.IP Feb 24 13:34:21 shroom last message repeated 3 times Feb 24 13:34:21 shroom kernel: ICMP: cannot handle TOS redirects yet! Feb 24 13:34:21 shroom last message repeated 3 times Feb 24 13:35:38 shroom ftpd[895]: repeated login failures from some.machine.com Are there any well documented (i.e. usably documented) articles and/or books on securtiy in Linux. I have no idea what TCP wrappers (or whatever) are, but I hear talk of them... I would really love an easy-to-set-up security utility and readible security logs. I know, I know, I should go out and write something like this (Now, if I would just learn a language other that Fortran...) Thanks for any assistance, Paul Rightley -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape doesn't save ftp messages
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Jim Lynch wrote: I've had this problem for a long time, but have been ignoring it. When ever I click on a link using Netscape that is of the form ftp://ftp.xyz.com/dir/file the file is displayed in the netscape window. That's sorta OK for text files, but binary files do the same thing. On other versions of netscape it brings up a save file dialog. I'm running Netscape 3.01, and Debian 1.3. How do I fix this? shift-click. You should be able to edit the preferences to make the save box pop up also. I'm running 4.04 now and don't remember the exact format of this, however. --- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with deinstalling emacs20
Hi, I can not (completely) deinstall emacs20. I have removed all emacs* packages, including emacs, emacs19, but I do not get rid of emacs20. This is not WinExploder in disguise, is it? ;-) I want to remove it because I had the impression it did not install properly. How do I get rid of it (without installing the whole system again)? Somehow you managed to remove the emacsen-common package without removing emacs20. Since emacs20 depends on emacsen-common, this means you must have forced dpkg to ignore dependencies. This is a bad thing. To fix the problem, reinstall emacsen-common, then remove emacs20, then remove emacsen-common. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X install/config query
Hello: I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete the process correctly. X was not configured (although everything else that I have tried seems to be). I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system. If neither of these is there, then you don't have X installed. You must install xbase and one of the xserver-* packages. If you want to use XF86Setup then you must also install xserver-vga16. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X install/config query
Hello: I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete the process correctly. X was not configured (although everything else that I have tried seems to be). I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system. If neither of these is there, then you don't have X installed. You must install xbase and one of the xserver-* packages. If you want to use XF86Setup then you must also install xserver-vga16. Clearly, it wasn't installed correctly. There are all kinds of X applications and libraries in place, but I must have missed something. I presume that a remove and re-install is the correct procedure then? Dean -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with deinstalling emacs20
Hi, On 27 Feb 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: Somehow you managed to remove the emacsen-common package without removing emacs20. Since emacs20 depends on emacsen-common, this means you must have forced dpkg to ignore dependencies. This is a bad thing. To fix the problem, reinstall emacsen-common, then remove emacs20, then remove emacsen-common. Yup, this did the trick! Thank you very much, I really like Debian (support) Ciao, Christian. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
NO error in fdisk :D
Hi ! Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions FIRST. The only thing still to solve right now is this: DOS fdisk gives: 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100% 2 EXT DOS1000 100% 3 Non-DOS 6423% 4 Non-DOS2047 100% Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively. DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB size.) Can anyone help ? Thanks a lot so far ! Helmut -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NO error in fdisk :D
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote: : Hi ! : : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions : FIRST. : The only thing still to solve right now is this: : DOS fdisk gives: : : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100% : 2 EXT DOS1000 100% : 3 Non-DOS 6423% : 4 Non-DOS2047 100% : : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively. : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB : size.) : : Can anyone help ? I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before, sorry. What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2? If you used NORMAL mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased with a partition that has cylinder numbers 1024. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NO error in fdisk :D
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote: : Hi ! : : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions : FIRST. : The only thing still to solve right now is this: : DOS fdisk gives: : : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100% : 2 EXT DOS1000 100% : 3 Non-DOS 6423% : 4 Non-DOS2047 100% : : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively. : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB : size.) : : Can anyone help ? I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before, sorry. What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2? If you used NORMAL mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased with a partition that has cylinder numbers 1024. The CHS for this hard disk (4,3 GB) are: C 14848 H 9 S 63 BIOS recognises 14848 and NORMAL or 524 and LBA or 7424 and LARGE I have currently set it to NORMAL. Helmut -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NO error in fdisk :D
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote: : Hi ! : : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions : FIRST. : The only thing still to solve right now is this: : DOS fdisk gives: : : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100% : 2 EXT DOS1000 100% : 3 Non-DOS 6423% : 4 Non-DOS2047 100% : : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively. : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB : size.) : : Can anyone help ? I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before, sorry. What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2? If you used NORMAL mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased with a partition that has cylinder numbers 1024. I forgot to add my question :) Does this mean I can't use two DOS paritions if the first one is already 1000 MB big ? Hemut -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X install/config query
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:12:35 MST, wrote: Hello: Hello I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete the process correctly. X was not configured (although everything else that I have tried seems to be). If dselect or dpkg says your xserver isn't configured, you might try running through [C]onfigure once or twice in dselect. I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system. Because configuration is incomplete, this could mean either it's not there, or you're not seeing it. You can always run the xserver post install script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and confirm that the files in the xserver list file, also in /var/run/dpkg/info/ exist. (There's no sense running configure if the files aren't there, and I don't know what kind of problem you encountered.) Should I remove X and re-install, or is there another way? Sometimes dselect is quirky and it takes a couple tries, I've found. If that doesn't work, I'd remove my X-server, then confirm that no outstanding conflicts or dependencies exist in dselect by running though installation in dselect, and then run through installation again in dselect, choosing your xserver. I think that XF86Setup (nicer than xf86config), is only in the VGA xserver, reason being that this is supposed to be a good default. -- David Stern -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NO error in fdisk :D
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote: : Nathan E Norman wrote: : : On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote: : : : Hi ! : : : : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux : : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions : : FIRST. : : The only thing still to solve right now is this: : : DOS fdisk gives: : : : : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100% : : 2 EXT DOS1000 100% : : 3 Non-DOS 6423% : : 4 Non-DOS2047 100% : : : : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively. : : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended : : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB : : size.) : : : : Can anyone help ? : : I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before, : sorry. : : What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2? If you used NORMAL : mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased : with a partition that has cylinder numbers 1024. : : I forgot to add my question :) : : Does this mean I can't use two DOS paritions if the first one is already : 1000 MB big ? : : Hemut Well, maybe. Here's the problem, as I understand it. DOS doesn't like partitions that cross the 1024 cylinder boundary - if your partition starts at, say, cylinder 950 and ends at cylinder 1200, DOS will see cylinders 950-1024, and that's it. It won't see any partitions that begin on a cylinder greater than 1024. So, if your first partition is using up all the cylinders to 1024, you're out of luck. (What I was asking in my last email is which cylinder does each partition begin and end on ... if you're running normal mode you're alomost certainly bumping into the 1024 limit). -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X install/config query
If neither of these is there, then you don't have X installed. You must install xbase and one of the xserver-* packages. If you want to use XF86Setup then you must also install xserver-vga16. Clearly, it wasn't installed correctly. There are all kinds of X applications and libraries in place, but I must have missed something. I presume that a remove and re-install is the correct procedure then? My guess is that you have the X libraries installed, but not the X server. See, if you do all your work on a remote machine, then you don't need an X server but you can still use X applications. But in your case, you need to install one of xserver-* plus xbase. If it still doesn't work after doing this, or if these are already installed, then remove and re-install might help, but in general this is not a solution to problems: this is not Winblows, where `reinstall' is the cure to all problems. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NO error in fdisk :D
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote: : Nathan E Norman wrote: : : On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote: : : : Hi ! : : : : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux : : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions : : FIRST. : : The only thing still to solve right now is this: : : DOS fdisk gives: : : : : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100% : : 2 EXT DOS1000 100% : : 3 Non-DOS 6423% : : 4 Non-DOS2047 100% : : : : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively. : : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended : : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB : : size.) : : : : Can anyone help ? : : I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before, : sorry. : : What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2? If you used NORMAL : mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased : with a partition that has cylinder numbers 1024. : : I forgot to add my question :) : : Does this mean I can't use two DOS paritions if the first one is already : 1000 MB big ? : : Hemut Well, maybe. Here's the problem, as I understand it. DOS doesn't like partitions that cross the 1024 cylinder boundary - if your partition starts at, say, cylinder 950 and ends at cylinder 1200, DOS will see cylinders 950-1024, and that's it. It won't see any partitions that begin on a cylinder greater than 1024. So, if your first partition is using up all the cylinders to 1024, (What I was asking in my last email is which cylinder does each partition begin and end on ... if you're running normal mode you're alomost certainly bumping into the 1024 limit). Can't tell you right now - I'm using a different computer. I'll tell you later, OK ? Thanks a lot for your help ! Helmut -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dpkg thinks my pentium is an i486 ?
In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Joost Kooij wrote: Hi, I've been playing with some package's source and now I have a question: When I run ./debian/rules it prints lines containing: -DHOSTTYPE='i486' -DOSTYPE='linux-gnu' -DMACHTYPE='i486-debian-linux-gnu' I think that the it is the line ARCH = $(shell dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture) that causes this, because it outputs i486 Why does dpkg think that I have a 486 (it is a pentium)? Isn't this because we want packages built on Intel systems to be the same? If dpgk were to report Pentium, and some compiler is going to create real Pentium code (that doesn't run on i386), then you wouldn't be able to build Intel packages on your pentium any more. Yes, I know gcc currently doesn't do much Pentium optimisations, so at the moment the question between wheter dpkg should say i586 or i486 is rather pointless anyway. But when there will be a difference, it's best to make sure that dpkg returns the same on all computers of the same architecture. (architecture being one of {spark,i386,m86k,...}) -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The upstream maintainer is allowed to do things different than Debian, but only if he has good reasons to do so. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xemacs20
Hello, I'm running a full hamm system and just installed the above. When I tried to run it for the first time, I got the following: $ xemacs xemacs: error in loading shared libraries libcompface.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ??? TIA for any help :) matty -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: IBM Token Ring Card [does not work]
Try using the diagnostic tools and setting the card to Auto 16/4. I have a Turbo 16/4 at work and it works fine. The routing table looks strange - how does the kernel pick which card to send data out on? On Wed, Feb 25, 1998 at 08:16:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] [kermit:/root] route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface eth * 255.255.255.0 U 0 01 eth0 tok * 255.255.255.0 U 0 01 tr0 localnet* 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo [kermit:/root] ping 192.234.10.10 tr0: Unknown command 02 in arb tr0: Arrg. Transmitter busy for more than 50 msec. Donald resets adapter, but resetting the IBM tokenring adapter takes a long time. It might not even help when the ring is very busy, so we just wait a little longer and hope for the best. Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | Because bloated, unstable PGP key available on public key servers | operating systems are from MS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
lyx 0.12 final in hamm is actually bo ?
Hi, looks like lyx 0.12 binal bo version live now in hamm tree. Is it known probelm ? regards OK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problem with gmp? Conflict on /dev/ttyS0?
I have been using Debian linux on an IBM Thinkpad for about a month. The machine only has one serial port. I am using a modem and kermit on that port, with device name /dev/ttyS0. I have been able to make remote connections with other machines, but there have been occasional crashes and other puzzling behavior. I have a partially installed X. The pointer/mouse device in the center of the keyboard doesn't work! (it does work when I'm running Windows 95). I'm wondering whether these two problems may be related. The booting process calls a program gpm. I don't know exactly what it does, but it seems to want to make /dev/ttyS0 the mouse device, which is the serial port on my machine. What should I do? My understanding of this stuff is very limited, and I would like to avoid recompiling the kernel if possible. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: trouble with the boot-block..
According to Bill Leach: The install and rescue floppies are indeed supposed to use the ramfs. Obviously the install floppy has to since at least most of the time there will be no other linux filesystem available. However, the rescue floppy does also because it has to be able to boot fully even if the root partition is corrupt (and allow you to attempt to repair same). So a boot floppy is yet a different critter and contains a kernel that has been patched (with rdev) to have your normal root partition set. When you boot the installation disks and answer the first few questions (color monitor, keyboard, etc), the hit an alt-F2 to access the second console. All this makes sense, of course. What I don't understand is how something got written to the MBR and why my floppy drive is ignored now. To clear my SCSI drives 1 and 3, I'll have to do a low-level format. type 'mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /target [replacing /dev/hda1 with whatever is appropriate for your configuration of course] All right. Lilo can remove lilo but the installation disks do not 'know' that lilo was previously installed and thus take no action when you choose not to use lilo--so yes, if you installed lilo and did not do something like fdisk/mbr is DOS or explicitly replace the boot record using the lilo command then lilo is still present. As I think I mentioned to Jean Pierre, my knowledge of DOS could be stuffed into a thimble. At any rate, DOS is gone, and /dev/fd0 is useless. Last night I catenated /target/etc/lilo.conf to stdout and saw something like what you've got below. But it didn't do much good because I'm not familiar with the file. Also, didn't find anything in the boot that came with v1.3. Can you tell me what to edit to what to get rid of lilo from the master boot rec? A lilo config file looks something like this: bash-2.01$ cat /etc/lilo.conf boot = /dev/hda - disk to boot from prompt - prompt for boot choices during boot timeout = 50 - continue boot with default if no response compact - kernel is compressed install = /boot/boot.b - location of the boot code map = /boot/map - location of the system map file vga = normal - vga display mode to use delay = 20 - i don't remember image = /vmlinuz - name location of the linux kernel to load root = /dev/hda4 - system root device to use label = Linux - name for this instance of system read-only - always initially mount root read only vga = 9 - vga mode to use for this instance image = /vmlinuz.old - last kernel root = /dev/hda4 label = bklinux read-only vga = 9 image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.27 - a linux bo distribution system. root = /dev/hdb3 label = olinux read-only vga = 9 image = /vmlinuz.test - a linux testing partition root = /dev/hdb5 label = test read-only vga = 9 other=/dev/hda1 - an non-linux system table = /dev/hda - location of drive structure label = DOS - instance lable (and it is MSDOS) The lilo documentation is extensive and probably the about the best documentation in the entire Linux project but you do need to study it rather carefully if you want to be able to handle everything without problems. Most things can be given 'defaults' in the general section (the section before the first image = line and then overridden in the individual sections. From what I've read so far, the Linux docs are great...and I know how murderous writing techical documentation is. The reason I want to go Debian over other Linux version is that Debian seems to be the BSD of Linux. --Flames to /dev/null, guys!-- Given its strengths toward quality-control and attention to detail, hopefully Debian will be around for a long, long time. gary -- best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Bad installation :(
Hello: I checked my file system and it's ocuppied more less 60 MB (14%). I know this is a very incomplete installation I have de Debian CD-ROM so i could reinstall or patch. It's recomendable to install all over again? or is more recommendable to patch my actual installation so i could someday have it complete? I have a partition of 500 MB, can i install the complete distribution with this disk size? Thanks Erik __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bad installation :(
I checked my file system and it's ocuppied more less 60 MB (14%). I know this is a very incomplete installation I have de Debian CD-ROM so i could reinstall or patch. It's recomendable to install all over again? or is more recommendable to patch my actual installation so i could someday have it complete? Why do you think that there is something wrong with the installation? Are programs not running properly? It is quite possible to install Linux and have only 60 MB of space taken up. This would be a rather minimal install, but it is possible. Probably, you just need to install some more programs. Try using `dselect' to do this. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
.deb installation
Hello: I have downloaded gcl_2_2_1-1.deb and libg++272-dev_2_7_2_8-0_1.deb from the www.debian.org website. I downloaded them in my Win95 machine, i want to install them in my WinNT/Linux Machine. I have mounted the WinNT File System on Linux. How can i install the both packages in Linux with the other hard disk partition mounted or how can install the packages from floppies? Thanks __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dselect nfs question
This question is overly vague; sorry ... I started playing with nfs today (nothing like a little excitement on a friday). I've got a 9 gig partition on a BSDI box, which holds my ftp mirror of debian, among other things. I want to be able to do local installs via nfs. So I fought my way through BSDI nfs config, and I can now mount the filesystem on most any server I choose. So far, so good. However, when I choose the 'nfs' method from dselect, it says my BSDI box isn't an nfs server. I think this has something to do with RPC. My guess is that Linux and BSDI are using different versions of RPC. I'm sure if I read the right fm I can figure this out, but I'm a bit lost here - I've never delved into nfs or RPC at all :/ Any pointers as to which fm's to r? TIA, -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: .deb installation
How can i install the both packages in Linux with the other hard disk partition mounted or how can install the packages from floppies? dpkg -i FILENAME1.deb FILENAME2.deb -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Server Questions (fwd)
I'm familiar with the phenomena. I'd happy to take your money, but I suspect that your boss wants to see a glossy brochure that says Debian Support, Inc. on the cover and lists dozens of Fortune 500 customers. It does seem like there is a business opportunity here. A network of consultants around the world could handle the phone calls and emails while somebody with marketing skills fronted for them. Just make sure, that the one with the marketing skills does also support stuff. I've seen too many support things overmarketed.. sure, we can handle this... To jump a bit: At least here in Finland we could use a company (why not a group) doing support stuff with Linux. I don't think it would be too hard to handle all the distributions with a little and knowledgeable staff. With the pricetag of NT+software+no support you could easily sell all the hardware+ linux+ all the software+ support-contract stuff. btw. I also know couple 'suits' who are extreamly sceptical about anykind marketing. I count them as rare exceptions :) (..running Linux both..) --j -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X crashes
Hi, My X crashes quite often. It happens usually after I run netscape communicator but I am not so sure that it's caused by that. Nothing special is running usually, just few Xterms and when I try to switch screens it just crashes and exits to bash prompt. I use afterstep window manager. Does anyone know what might cause this and how could I avoid it? You are switching from virtual-console to X, or the other way, right ? And moving the mouse at the same time? This is some glitch with mouse device locking or something like that, and causes X to crash. Are there any errors from X? --j -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .