Re: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:42:33AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
 Copy the the libraries from the ldd output to ~ftp/lib, or wherever the
 above libraries are relative to root (i.e. if in /usr/lib, copy to
 ~ftp/usr/lib).  Make sure the libraries have a+rx permissions.

And when did Debian stop doing this for you? All my systems
were upgraded buzz to rex to bo to hamm, and they all had the anonymous
FTP stuff set up originally automatically.


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Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config

1998-02-27 Thread Ronn Pimentel


First you want to make sure the the WINS server is running.  I've had
plenty of experiences where WINS just died for no apparent reason.

Next make sure in DUN that they specify the WINS server(s) in the TCP/IP
config.

Next make sure that they have Logon to Network in DUN checked.  This way
they logon to the WinNT Domain and have all the rights and permissions
as if they were on the local LAN.



On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Kevin Traas wrote:

 Here at work, I've installed a Linux box with a couple of modems hanging off
 it for dialin access for remote users.  Everyone can dialin and access the
 network, etc.  except that there's one little problem that I haven't been
 able to find any docs / info about
 
 None of these dialin users (Win95 or WinNT WS) can browse the network
 using Network Neighborhood.  They get a Can't Browse Network message.
 However, everything else works fine.  I've got a WINS server running and the
 Linux is a DNS server, so name resolution isn't a problem.  However, they
 can't use the Network Neighborhood to browse to a server, connect a share,
 etc.
 
 Anyone have any ideas on how to get this configured and working?  I'd really
 like to get it working because, well, I'm the one with a bit on the line in
 suggesting using the Linux box to manage remote dialin users.  Now, people
 are starting to ask why we're not using RAS instead?
 
 My thoughts are because it only runs on NT and Microsoft made it...
 grin... but the people on my end aren't seeing these as good reasons
 
 TIA,
 Kevin Traas
 
 
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Re: Installing with LS-120 drive

1998-02-27 Thread dg

Hi Paul

On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Paul Rightley wrote:
 I have persuaded a co-worker to install Debian on his machine.
 However, he has a LS-120 drive (essentially a 120MB capacity
 floppy) and no normal floppy drive.  I wrote a resc1440.bin
 (from hamm/main/disks-i386/current) for him since rawrite2
 will not work (apparently) with these disk drives.  The problem
 is when it comes to install the kernel and modules on the HDD,
 the system cannot mount the floppy drive.  I am trying to install
 Debian on /dev/hdb (an IDE drive), and /dev/hda has a NT installation.

Try loadlin! It is on the CD (on my German JFL CD it is in /boot or /disks I
think) but I don't know if this thing will work with NT. With loadlin (if it
works with NT ;-) you should be able to do a disketteless Debian
installation, but don't kill me if this is wrong, beause I've never tried it
before. 

Bye

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Quick Q on ADM xfs

1998-02-27 Thread Bruce Dobrin
Trying to get adm working with my sgi net running autofs.  move auto_map table 
in pointed adm at it,  tells me  that it is having problem with the fs type.  I 
think I'm just having a syntax problem,  do I have to tweek the autofs table? 
or the cmd line (amd -D ?) or what.  I found lots of info,  but no examples of 
how that info is to be used.  For instance,  I'm told the linux version of amd 
requires a fs type to be entered which can be used with Opt= or type:=,  but I 
don't know where to put this opt or type..  If somone out there knows could 
you please send some examples?  

Thanks much

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Bad blocks

1998-02-27 Thread FizzyPop
I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I 
figure
it's all bad blocks.  I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a
cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed
Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them.
 So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD
for errors.
Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, how
can I load linux sans mounting the HD?  does it work if I boot from a
floppy?


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Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config

1998-02-27 Thread Thomas Lakofski
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Kevin Traas wrote:

 None of these dialin users (Win95 or WinNT WS) can browse the network
 using Network Neighborhood.  They get a Can't Browse Network message.
 However, everything else works fine.  I've got a WINS server running and the
 Linux is a DNS server, so name resolution isn't a problem.  However, they
 can't use the Network Neighborhood to browse to a server, connect a share,
 etc.

If you take a look at /etc/ppp/options you can specify a 'wins-addr'
option which should give your win95 dialup clients the right WINS
addresses.  Last time I checked NT had some problems with getting the
assignment, but that might have changed since I last used it (about 1 year
ago).  You can also specify the dns addresses in a similar manner -- take
a look at the file.  The advice given in a follow-up to your email about
having the clients log on to the NT domain is also correct (as is the rest
of it -- this might just help make things smoother).

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Re: BGP

1998-02-27 Thread Igor Grobman

Just a note:  AFAIK debs.fuller.edu does distribute gated .debs
 
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Re: Memory Usage Reports

1998-02-27 Thread tony mollica
Thanks for the reply.

One other question I have isat what point does linux
remove a program or its parts from memory after you have 
unloaded (closed) the programs in order to make use of that
memory for other programs?

Do you know where I can find more information on this?  I 
haven't been able to find any info with any detail.


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Re: Modem Problems....

1998-02-27 Thread shaul
Is there a neat utility to display what things are using what IRQs?

Does not 
cat /proc/interrupts 
be of some help ?


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Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config

1998-02-27 Thread Kevin Traas
 None of these dialin users (Win95 or WinNT WS) can browse the network
 using Network Neighborhood.  They get a Can't Browse Network message.
 However, everything else works fine.  I've got a WINS server running and
the
 Linux is a DNS server, so name resolution isn't a problem.  However, they
 can't use the Network Neighborhood to browse to a server, connect a
share,
 etc.

If you take a look at /etc/ppp/options you can specify a 'wins-addr'
option which should give your win95 dialup clients the right WINS
addresses.  Last time I checked NT had some problems with getting the
assignment, but that might have changed since I last used it (about 1 year
ago).  You can also specify the dns addresses in a similar manner -- take
a look at the file.  The advice given in a follow-up to your email about
having the clients log on to the NT domain is also correct (as is the rest
of it -- this might just help make things smoother).


Thanks for the comments.  My apologies for not providing enough information.

I do have everything set properly as mentioned above.  The Win95 clients
have the Log onto Network option checked and running winipcfg on them
reveals that DNS, WINS, IP, Mask, Gw, etc. are all configured as expected.

Any other suggestions?

Regards,
Kevin Traas


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Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config

1998-02-27 Thread Thomas Lakofski
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Kevin Traas wrote:

 Thanks for the comments.  My apologies for not providing enough information.
 
 I do have everything set properly as mentioned above.  The Win95 clients
 have the Log onto Network option checked and running winipcfg on them
 reveals that DNS, WINS, IP, Mask, Gw, etc. are all configured as expected.
 
 Any other suggestions?

ummm, I'll put on my MCSE hat (blush) and say: try rebuilding the WINS
database, check that browsing works with an NT RAS server, and not with
Debian... errr, beyond that, I can only say that it's why I'm not a
practising MCSE (even though the 'exams' i had to take were a complete
joke...)

(sorry for the off-topic-ness)

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Re: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:42:33AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
  Copy the the libraries from the ldd output to ~ftp/lib, or wherever the
  above libraries are relative to root (i.e. if in /usr/lib, copy to
  ~ftp/usr/lib).  Make sure the libraries have a+rx permissions.
 
 And when did Debian stop doing this for you? All my systems
 were upgraded buzz to rex to bo to hamm, and they all had the anonymous
 FTP stuff set up originally automatically.

The version of wu-ftpd in hamm appears to install the libc5 libraries in
/home/ftp/lib, rather than the libc6 versions required by ls (see bug
#17110). 

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Re: Bad blocks

1998-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I 
figure
   it's all bad blocks.  I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a
   cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed
   Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them.
So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD
   for errors.

Use the badblocks(8) program.

   Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, 
how
   can I load linux sans mounting the HD?  does it work if I boot from a
   floppy?

It shouldn't be a problem to run badblocks while the HD is mounted; it
does not write to the drive, just reads from it.


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Commercial support (was Server Questions (fwd))

1998-02-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
Nathan E Norman wrote:
  On 26 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
  :  However ... my boss wants to have someone we can call for support when
  :  it doesn't work.  This person, persons, or company would preferably hav
  e
  :  some sort of documentation as to who they are and why we ought to pay
  :  them when we call them.
  : 
  : I'm familiar with the phenomena.  I'd happy to take your money, but I
  : suspect that your boss wants to see a glossy brochure that says Debian
  : Support, Inc. on the cover and lists dozens of Fortune 500 customers.
  
  Yup, you've hit the nail on the head.
  
  : It does seem like there is a business opportunity here.  A network of
  : consultants around the world could handle the phone calls and emails while
  : somebody with marketing skills fronted for them.
  
  Exactly.  So, why isn't someone doing this?  (You could make a hell of a
  lot of money).
  
  Thanks John.  You've stated very concisely the issue at hand.

So lets know who is interested in being part of this.  I'm assuming
Bruce's venture fizzled out, since I've heard nothing more.

I am very interested in getting this going, but it will take a lot of
work to get the details right. Here are my first thoughts:



Objectives:

To provide commercial support for Debian Linux.

To enhance Linux' image among the `suits'.

To provide a modest income for the participants. (A gold mine? - we should
be so lucky!)

To provide better support than people get from HP, Sun, DG and so on.
(We won't bother to compare ourselves with Micro$oft.)



Issues:

Kinds of support: 1 - handholding; 2 - system admininstration help;
   3 - help with program use; 4 - bug tracing/fixing; 5 - consultancy
   services; 6 - ???

Customer support contracts that don't promise what we can't perform and
don't allow customers to sue us for their own stupidity.

Pricing.  (Can people post details of contract costs in the PC world 
from other organisations, please.  Especially for M$ software!)

A Web Page

Need for telephone support (someone to call when the user can't find the
return key!) - this ought to be organised by timezone and language. If a
number doesn't lead to a permanently-staffed office, it probably needs
call-forwarding to pass it on to a live support person.

Need for business premises in each country; at the least, an office in
someone's home.  Somewhere to send money to!

How to distribute calls fairly; emails to a support address need to be
acted on very promptly, so there needs to be a system for members to adopt
a support query and for other members to know that it has been taken on.
If someone introduces their own customers to the support net, presumably
they should get the first calls.  There are a lot of issues like this to
think about. Perhaps there should be some automated system for call
distribution?  Holiday cover? Call distribution by specialisation?

If someone can't handle a call and passes it on, how do we share the
charge between him and the next guy?

What if the ultimate answer comes from someone outside the membership 
(which will probably be the case with a lot of the difficult questions)?
Once people are aware of us, they may want to take a cut...

How do we get paid? (Particularly with international support; it costs a
lot to transfer small amounts of currency.) Who has the fun job of
keeping the books?  If it grows to any extent, we should soon have to employ
at least a secretary/bookkeeper - possibly one per country, I'm afraid.
How much would this infrastructure cost us?  How long before we need to
employ salesmen to keep our hamster's wheel going round?

What would be the legal status of the organisation?  (Among other things,
that affects what taxes we have to pay, and who can get sued.)




I spent a number of years doing technical support for UniVerse (a commercial
database) and many questions were about how to do something that users 
could have read in the manuals.  The ones about bugs in the software we had
to pass on to VMark, but all too often these got ignored.  When I finally
finished doing support for it, there was still at least one problem that
I had reported five years before!  It will be very satisfying doing
support for a product that we can get changed when it needs it!

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Re: minicom...

1998-02-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Rafael Castillo Mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how do i do to configurate the minicom for conecting  to interntet wiht a
pulse telephone 
line??? 

Use the 2nd dial option, ATDP instead of ATDT

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dump screen to file

1998-02-27 Thread Paul Miller
How can I dumb the console screen to a file via a bash shell command (or
program)?

Thanks
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Re: dump screen to file

1998-02-27 Thread Norbert Veber
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 06:08:21PM -0600, FizzyPop wrote:
   I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I 
 figure
 it's all bad blocks.  I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a
 cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed
 Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them.
  So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD
 for errors.

The command you want is badblocks, I had similar errors a while ago, they
were caused by my harddrive, well.. dying.. :)  Good thing it still had
warranty..

   Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, how
 can I load linux sans mounting the HD?  does it work if I boot from a
 floppy?

that would work, as long as the floppy doesn't mount the hard drives..  I've
tried several times to unmount my root partition (which is obviously
impossible)  I also heard that one should be able to use the remount option
of mount along with -ro, but that also failed. Since I'm too lazy to run
lsof, and look at what programs are accessing my root partition (prolly all
of them), I usually do something like tune2fs -C 255 /dev/hda5, which causes
my partition to be checked.  If you actually care about why this works, read
man tune2fs.  Although, this is hardly ever necessary.


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Re: dump screen to file

1998-02-27 Thread Norbert Veber
hm, sorry, this was meant as a reply to the badblocks question
:)

On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:37:55PM -0500, Norbert Veber wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 06:08:21PM -0600, FizzyPop wrote:
  I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I 
  figure
  it's all bad blocks.  I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a
  cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed
  Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them.
   So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD
  for errors.
 
 The command you want is badblocks, I had similar errors a while ago, they
 were caused by my harddrive, well.. dying.. :)  Good thing it still had
 warranty..

snip


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Anon FTP and other conflicts

1998-02-27 Thread Ossama Othman

 And when did Debian stop doing this for you? All my systems
 were upgraded buzz to rex to bo to hamm, and they all had the anonymous
 FTP stuff set up originally automatically.

Obviously Debian didn't do it; otherwise this wouldn't be an issue on this
mailing list.  I don't recall the base ftpd setup ever prompting me about
setting up anonymous ftp.  I believe the users that were having
problems with setting up anonymous ftp were not using wu-ftpd.  They
were using the base ftpd daemon.  As such, they probably had to set it up 
manually.

However, in agreement with what you said, installing the wu-ftpd package
did set up the appropriate ~ftp subdirectories.

I did notice one thing about the libs.  Why is the hamm wu-ftpd package
installing libc5 instead of libc6?  All of the binaries (ls, tar, gzip and
in.ftpd) are linked against libc6 so why are the libc5 and ld-linux-1
libraries installed in ~ftp/lib by the package?

Also, there were conflicts with the netstd ftpd man page that didn't allow
me to install the package.  To make it work I had to force the install
with dpkg.  I had similar problems when installing glibc-dev-2.0.7pre1-2.
There was a conflict with ndbm.h from the libgdbm1-dev package (which is
obsolete).  I had to uninstall libgdbm1-dev before it worked.  This is no
problem but it is an inconvenience.  Does anyone know if this issue is
being addressed?  Bo was the first Debian distribution that I used, and I
never experienced this problem with bo.  Of course, I do understand that
hamm is still considered unstable.

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glibc install bug (was anon ftp conflicts)

1998-02-27 Thread Ossama Othman
My apologies.  I didn't check the big reports prior to posting my last
message about the glibc-dev conflict.  Sorry guys.

-Ossama

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Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config

1998-02-27 Thread Ronn Pimentel


On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Kevin Traas wrote:

 Thanks for the comments.  My apologies for not providing enough information.
 
 I do have everything set properly as mentioned above.  The Win95 clients
 have the Log onto Network option checked and running winipcfg on them
 reveals that DNS, WINS, IP, Mask, Gw, etc. are all configured as expected.
 
 Any other suggestions?
 

If the people are logging in with laptops, try removing the ethernet card.
And then when the machine comes up with the login screen hit Cancel, and
then try logging in via DUN.  Which version of Win95?  Original, A, or
OemB, crispy, extra crispy, with or without IE4?  (Sorry so many versions 
to keep track of).

Worst case scenerio, goto the windows directory and remove the .PWL files
and restart the computer and try the above.  This has worked from time to
time for me.  

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Re: Anon FTP and other conflicts

1998-02-27 Thread Joel Klecker
At 20:52 -0500 1998-02-26, Ossama Othman wrote:
I did notice one thing about the libs.  Why is the hamm wu-ftpd package
installing libc5 instead of libc6?

It's a bug.

Also, there were conflicts with the netstd ftpd man page that didn't allow
me to install the package.  To make it work I had to force the install
with dpkg.  I had similar problems when installing glibc-dev-2.0.7pre1-2.
There was a conflict with ndbm.h from the libgdbm1-dev package (which is
obsolete).  I had to uninstall libgdbm1-dev before it worked.  This is no
problem but it is an inconvenience.  Does anyone know if this issue is
being addressed?  Bo was the first Debian distribution that I used, and I
never experienced this problem with bo.  Of course, I do understand that
hamm is still considered unstable.

Overlaps between packages are bugs, however, dpkg usually has
--force-overwrite (which turns errors about overlaps into a mere warning)
implicitly enabled, however, the current release of dpkg in hamm has this
disabled so there is incentive to fix overlaps. It will be reenabled before
release. BTW, the latest libgdbm series of packages (in hamm) has fixed the
overlap with libc6-dev, and there are bugs filed against wu-ftpd and netstd
regarding the man page overlap.

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Re: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-27 Thread Joel Klecker
At 10:26 -0800 1998-02-26, Alan Su wrote:
Ossama Othman wrote (Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:31:56 -0500 (EST) ):
|Why are you trying to chroot to /bin/ls?  The ftpd daemon automatically
|does a chroot when someone logs in as anonymous or ftp.  Here is an
|excerpt from the ftpd man page.  Did you follow what it says?
|

Tony was trying to diagnose the problem, the same problem I'm having.
Namely, ls depends on libc (at least) and simply copying the library
to the ~ftp/lib directory doesn't work.  The man page mentions nothing
about this, leading me to believe that it assumes that ls is
statically linked.

Here is the /home/ftp on my hamm system:

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[/home/ftp]# ls -lR
total 5
d--x--x--x   2 root root 1024 Feb 17 11:15 bin/
d--x--x--x   2 root root 1024 Feb 17 11:14 etc/
d--x--x--x   2 root root 1024 Feb 17 11:32 lib/
dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root 1024 Feb 11 03:17 pub/
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  487 Dec 30 10:59 welcome.msg

bin:
total 233
---x--x--x   1 root root45580 Feb 17 11:15 gzip
---x--x--x   1 root root29428 Feb 17 11:15 ls
---x--x--x   1 root root   102380 Feb 17 11:15 tar
---x--x--x   1 root root56156 Feb 17 11:15 zip

etc:
total 3
-r--r--r--   1 root root   18 Feb 17 11:15 group
-r--r--r--   1 root root   44 Feb 17 11:15 passwd
-r--r--r--   1 root root  172 Feb 17 11:14 pathmsg

lib:
total 793
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root root   161959 Jan 21 10:30 ld-2.0.6.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   11 Feb 17 11:32 ld-linux.so.2 -
ld-2.0.6.so
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root root   643772 Jan 21 10:31 libc-2.0.6.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Feb 17 11:32 libc.so.6 -
libc-2.0.6.so
[snip of the listing of pub]

Output of ldd on /home/ftp/bin/*:

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[/home/ftp]# ldd bin/*
bin/gzip:
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
bin/ls:
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
bin/tar:
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
bin/zip:
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

And yes, it does work.

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Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized

1998-02-27 Thread Tyson Dowd
On 26-Feb-1998, Remco van de Meent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey,
 
 Anyone know of a nice way to keep different CVS servers synchronized with
 each other?

A CVS server is a single entity.  If you're looking for ways to reduce
load on a CVS server, I have some ideas for that, but I believe multiple
servers handling the same source packages is still not a reality for
CVS. It's not impossible, but it's a difficult problem to solve. 


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Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized

1998-02-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote:

 A CVS server is a single entity.  If you're looking for ways to reduce
 load on a CVS server, I have some ideas for that, but I believe multiple

Please share, CVS serving on va is not exactly as lightweight as I would
hope.

Thanks,
Jason


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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-02-27 Thread Lee Bradshaw
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 Lee Bradshaw said:
  Art, is your local user name alemas?  My problem is that if I use my
  isp
 
  Yes. And your local user name should be same as what you
 want as a user name in your e-mail return address (in your case,
 lee.bradshaw) until we find a solution for sending from any local
 (local to your machine) account.  I'm going to try one more tiny
 change with Daniel's (hope he doesn't mind) script and get back to
 you.  When we have a complete solution for these kind of accounts
 (typical dynamic IP PPP's), what say we collaborate to put a good
 tutorial on a Web page? ;-) Then those who have the know-how can
 properly format the info for Debian LINUX documentation (or we
 can learn).  By the way, this one replied to you with no header
 adjustments.
 
_Art

I started with a Reply-To: field which I removed once I got the From:
line correct.  These were the first things I worked on so that other
people could reply to my email.

I took most of my setup from Daniel Martin's web page.  You might ask
him to provides links to your page if you want to provide more details
on any of the issues.  I don't remember seeing a restriction that the
local username had to match the remote username.  Check out my web page
if you want to see all the effort I've put into HTML so far :^)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lee.bradshaw/

If I didn't mention this before, I'm not cc'ing you because ipa.net
rejects my from  lines as spam.

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diagnosing smail

1998-02-27 Thread David Stern
Hi,

I'm trying to beat smail down with a stick, am having a little trouble 
(actually more than a little).  Would somebody *PLease* translate into 
English this brief /etc/smail/config snippet and answer three questions?

  from_field=From: \
  ${if def:ident_sender\
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  {$sender${if def:sender_name: ($sender_name)}}}

(My interpretation: look at the From: line (or Sender: line, which?), 
and if the sender's identification code (whatever that means) is 
non-null (exists), then rewrite that line (which one: From: or Sender: 
?) to look like .. here it breaks down, and that extra condition in the 
last line confuses me.)

1.) What is the difference between the roles of Sender:, Return-path:, 
and From: lines and are each required according to RFC's?  (It was my 
understanding that there was some contention as to whether the Sender: 
line was required, but that it was desirable because it acts as an 
envelope, which is a good thing for some MTA's and MUA's.  I'm not 
clear about the roles of Return-path:, From:, and Sender: or which are 
required.)

2.) Why does from_field require it begin From: (as shown in the man 
page below) and does from_field rewrite the From: line, or the 
Sender: line and how does it decide? (It seems ambiguous.)

8--- man smailconf(5) -8

  from_field
type: string

This string will be expanded to form From: or Sender:
fields. The expanded string must begin with From:, 
which may be replaced by other strings to form an   
actual header field. The default value is:

  From: $sender${if def:sender_name: ($sender_name)}

8--8

3.) How can I find out what ident_sender, as well as all other 
variables, are assigneded as?  (I need to know so I can test what is 
happening; e.g.: when I set visible_name to u.washington.edu, and 
restart smail and inetd or reboot, there is no change, but I don't know 
why. I've tried echoing and mailing the variables, but I must be doing 
it wrong.)

I know smail is reading my configuration because smtprewrite is being 
implemented, and modifying transports to remove and insert headers 
works, yet my attempts to modify /etc/smail/config have mostly been 
futile.
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RE: Win95 Dialin Client Config

1998-02-27 Thread Thomas Heide Clausen
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I would look at SAMBA (http://samba.anu.edu.au/samba/). I have
set it up succesfully under many UNIX flavours, and it works
like a dream (allmost out of the box).

Cheers, and good luck.

- --thomas

ps: What is the WINS you're talking about? Sone NIS derivation?

On 26-Feb-98 Kevin Traas wrote:
 Here at work, I've installed a Linux box with a couple of
 modems hanging off
 it for dialin access for remote users.  Everyone can dialin
 and access the
 network, etc.  except that there's one little problem that I
 haven't been
 able to find any docs / info about
 
 None of these dialin users (Win95 or WinNT WS) can browse
 the network
 using Network Neighborhood.  They get a Can't Browse
 Network message.
 However, everything else works fine.  I've got a WINS server
 running and the
 Linux is a DNS server, so name resolution isn't a problem. 
 However, they
 can't use the Network Neighborhood to browse to a server,
 connect a share,
 etc.
 
 Anyone have any ideas on how to get this configured and
 working?  I'd really
 like to get it working because, well, I'm the one with a bit
 on the line in
 suggesting using the Linux box to manage remote dialin users. 
 Now, people
 are starting to ask why we're not using RAS instead?
 
 My thoughts are because it only runs on NT and Microsoft
 made it...
 grin... but the people on my end aren't seeing these as good
 reasons
 
 TIA,
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Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized

1998-02-27 Thread Tyson Dowd
On 26-Feb-1998, Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote:
 
  A CVS server is a single entity.  If you're looking for ways to reduce
  load on a CVS server, I have some ideas for that, but I believe multiple
 
 Please share, CVS serving on va is not exactly as lightweight as I would
 hope.

Sure. 

1. I'm pretty sure the load of an ftp is a lot lower than a cvs checkout.
   So include CVS directories in distributed source tarballs.  This way,
   developers can just download the source tarball (or unpack it in a
   new directory) rather than doing a cvs checkout.  This is much
   faster for developers, and will no doubt reduce the load on the
   server.  It might be good to build daily tarballs if there is a
   lot of activity.

   Even relatively out-of-date tarballs can just be cvs updated,
   which should be a little less strain on the server.

2. Make sure all developers use -z9 to compress all files.  Putting
cvs -z9 
   in your .cvsrc should do this trick ok. (Unless network traffic is
   ok, but CPU load is too high, in which case perhaps this does more
   harm than good!).

3. Keep modules from growing too large.  Developers have a tendency to
   check out entire systems to fix a small bug in just the documentation
   or other modules.

4. Reduce commit log mail traffic - either batch the mail (one per
   day?), or reduce number of mails sent. 

There might be other things that can be done - I'm not sure what's
causing load problems with the server on va, but these are some of
the things I'd try.  I've never seen remote CVS used on a very large scale
(e.g. hundreds of modules) so I'm not sure how well it scales yet.



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Re: Possible new name for deity

1998-02-27 Thread John Spence

 We are thinking about using Trove as the name for the project that
 has been code-named Deity until now.

How about druid or pdruid (for package druid)?

I don't care what they call it as long as it doesn't start with
dpkg-somthing or kpkg-something.

rpm may not be a better technology but it is easy to type/remember



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Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized

1998-02-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote:

 There might be other things that can be done - I'm not sure what's
 causing load problems with the server on va, but these are some of
 the things I'd try.  I've never seen remote CVS used on a very large scale
 (e.g. hundreds of modules) so I'm not sure how well it scales yet.

Va has this tendancy to have CVS processes using 30Meg of ram and minutes
(on a PPro200!) of cpu power - I have yet to figure out why or how.
Typical cvs's only use about 1-4M of ram..

Jason


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2.0.33 kernel and libc6 dependancies

1998-02-27 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi, all --

I just recompiled my own version of 2.0.33 kernel, based on 2.0.33_2.0.33-3
source package. Everything runs fine for the time being, and the only question
I have is : how do you get rid of the kernel-source-2.0.32_2.0.32-3 package?
It takes up a whole lot of space on my machine and it does absolutely nothing
now that the 2.0.33 is current one. I tried to purge it (after I have
installed kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-3.deb package), but I got the message
that libc6-dev_2.0.6-2.deb package depends on it and it refuses to remove it.
Doing a dpkg-deb --info libc6-dev_2.0.7pre1-2.deb aso shows a dependancy to
the kernel-source-2.0.32. 
Any hints?

thanks

Damir


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Re: keeping cvs servers synchronized

1998-02-27 Thread Tyson Dowd
On 26-Feb-1998, Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote:
 
  There might be other things that can be done - I'm not sure what's
  causing load problems with the server on va, but these are some of
  the things I'd try.  I've never seen remote CVS used on a very large scale
  (e.g. hundreds of modules) so I'm not sure how well it scales yet.
 
 Va has this tendancy to have CVS processes using 30Meg of ram and minutes
 (on a PPro200!) of cpu power - I have yet to figure out why or how.
 Typical cvs's only use about 1-4M of ram..

This is very strange.  comp.software.config-mgmt is a good newsgroup to
ask CVS questions, perhaps you should try there? 



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Re: trouble with the boot-block..

1998-02-27 Thread Bill Leach
The install and rescue floppies are indeed supposed to use the ramfs. 
Obviously the install floppy has to since at least most of the time
there will be no other linux filesystem available.  However, the rescue
floppy does also because it has to be able to boot fully even if the
root partition is corrupt (and allow you to attempt to repair same).  So
a boot floppy is yet a different critter and contains a kernel that has
been patched (with rdev) to have your normal root partition set.

When you boot the installation disks and answer the first few questions
(color monitor, keyboard, etc), the hit an alt-F2 to access the second
console.

type 'mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /target
[replacing /dev/hda1 with whatever is appropriate for your configuration
of course]


Lilo can remove lilo but the installation disks do not 'know' that lilo
was previously installed and thus take no action when you choose not to
use lilo--so yes, if you installed lilo and did not do something like
fdisk/mbr is DOS or explicitly replace the boot record using the lilo
command then lilo is still present.

A lilo config file looks something like this:
bash-2.01$ cat /etc/lilo.conf
boot = /dev/hda - disk to boot from
prompt - prompt for boot choices during boot
timeout = 50 - continue boot with default if no response
compact - kernel is compressed
install = /boot/boot.b - location of the boot code
map = /boot/map - location of the system map file
vga = normal - vga display mode to use
delay = 20 - i don't remember
image = /vmlinuz - name  location of the linux kernel to load
root = /dev/hda4 - system root device to use
label = Linux - name for this instance of system
read-only - always initially mount root read only
vga = 9 - vga mode to use for this instance
image = /vmlinuz.old - last kernel
root = /dev/hda4
label = bklinux
read-only
vga = 9
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.27 - a linux bo distribution system.
root = /dev/hdb3
label = olinux
read-only
vga = 9
image = /vmlinuz.test - a linux testing partition
root = /dev/hdb5
label = test
read-only
vga = 9
other=/dev/hda1 - an non-linux system
table = /dev/hda - location of drive structure
label = DOS - instance lable (and it is MSDOS)


The lilo documentation is extensive and probably the about the best
documentation in the entire Linux project but you do need to study it
rather carefully if you want to be able to handle everything without
problems.  Most things can be given 'defaults' in the general section
(the section before the first image = line and then overridden in the
individual sections.

Gary Kline wrote:
 
 According to Jean Pierre LeJacq:
  On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote:
 
   According to Jean Pierre LeJacq:
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote:
   
 However, after installing Debian on my first and third SCSI
 drives and *not* using LILO as the boot manager, I found that
 I __always__ boot into Debian, into a RAM file system.

 After re-installing both OS's from scratch several times I've
 come to the conclusion that something is causing the master boot
 track to always throw me into the re-install RAM-fs of Linux.

Are you booting from the rescue floppy disk.  If yes, then indeed you
will be using the RAM-fs.  You can either use the boot floppy disk or
LILO installed on the hard disk.
   
   Both the hard drive and the  rescue floppy throw me
   into the RAM-fs.  (In fact, trying to re-install FreeBSD
   from its floppy disk is impossible.)
 
  Does the same thing happen when booting from your boot floppy?  Did
  you install LILO on the harddisk?  If so, send me the /etc/lilo.conf.
 
 
 Yes, once I did install LILO to my harddisk;
 then I brought up the menu again and chose
 ``NO'' when asked.  Evidently, once the loader
 installs, it's forever!
 
 I'll have to check /etc/lilo.conf  (if I can
 get to it) tonight  my time.   Last night I
 poked around using the ash shell but couldn't
 make much sense of the fs layout.  Would lilo.conf
 perhaps be in /target/etc/lilo.conf?
 
 BTW, this (Debian + FBSD) is on a separate box.
 Not yet linked to the rest of the world... .
 
 gary
 
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scsi: tape drive gets ONE partition's signals, load reaches 17.

1998-02-27 Thread Jameson Burt
For four months, I noticed no problems with my tape drive or my disk drive.
In the last two weeks, I have updated a few packages in hamm, but not many.
I now have two indicators that just one partition (out of 8+ partitions) on my 
disk drive gets its signals diverted to the tape drive.

1. mke2fs -c /dev/sdc12
   results in a churning of the tape /dev/st0 for 30 minutes until I kill the 
process.
   Then I have difficulty typing a character as the load meter shows 17 
horizontal lines.
2. When making backups, only the partition /dev/sdc12 fails.
   If I duplicate its contents to another partition, dump succeeds.  Again, 
dumping to this /dev/sdc12 partition churns the tape drive for at least 30 
minutes until I kill the dump command.

The above disk drive is a wide 9GB Fujitsu.  The above tape drive is an old 
Exabyte 8200 8mm.  I have two other narrow 2GB Seagate drives externally 
attached.  All these scsi devices are attached to an Adaptec 2940UW adapter.

Because of this mixing of scsi signals between one disk drive partition and 
the tape drive, I no longer use the partition /dev/sdc12. The setup of my 
Adaptec 2940UW refuses any ultra scsi protocol, preventing an ultra problem. 
  This cross-signal problem seems inexplicable.  Has anyone any 
explanations/solutions?

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RE: Help!! --/dev/ttyS0 input overflow error --

1998-02-27 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
 Hi everyone,
   I wote some code to manage a data aquisition device in the labs.
 It runs for a while (say 24 hrs, gathering data every 6 secs [x 50 data
 points]) then it crashes, crashes bad (segmentation fault) /dev/ttyS0
 input overflow ... does anyone know what is causing this??

I began to get these on one of my systems, I disabled the com port in the
bios and added a serial card... works fine now. The office building is
very supceptable to close lightning strikes, and I presume emf is inducing
current into the serial/mouse lines, frying it :(

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Re: Bad blocks

1998-02-27 Thread Bill Leach
Normally you would boot from a rescue floppy for such maintenance
activities and mount your filesystem read only.  I haven't had to do
this in a long time but it also seems to me that you can boot to single
user and remount root as read only.

FizzyPop wrote:
 
 I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I 
 figure
 it's all bad blocks.  I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a
 cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed
 Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them.
  So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD
 for errors.
 Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, 
 how
 can I load linux sans mounting the HD?  does it work if I boot from a
 floppy?
 
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Re: Memory Usage Reports

1998-02-27 Thread Bill Leach
This certainly isn't any sort of answer to your question but does anyone
know of hand if Linux frees shared code (libraries, maybe fonts) as soon
as there is no code using it or does it wait until the memory is
actually needed).  i did look through some of the loader code and
discussions about Linux memory management but it was not for this reason
and it was quite some time ago...


tony mollica wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reply.
 
 One other question I have isat what point does linux
 remove a program or its parts from memory after you have
 unloaded (closed) the programs in order to make use of that
 memory for other programs?
 
 Do you know where I can find more information on this?  I
 haven't been able to find any info with any detail.
 
 thanks,
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Re: 2.0.33 kernel and libc6 dependancies

1998-02-27 Thread Bill Leach
Hummm, I have not tried that yet but it should work.  When I do a 
dpkg --status libc6-dev
it shows the dependency as  kernel-source-2.0.32 (= 2.0.32-2) so your
2.0.33 should meet that requirement.

Damir J. Naden wrote:
 
 Hi, all --
 
 I just recompiled my own version of 2.0.33 kernel, based on 2.0.33_2.0.33-3
 source package. Everything runs fine for the time being, and the only question
 I have is : how do you get rid of the kernel-source-2.0.32_2.0.32-3 package?
 It takes up a whole lot of space on my machine and it does absolutely nothing
 now that the 2.0.33 is current one. I tried to purge it (after I have
 installed kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-3.deb package), but I got the message
 that libc6-dev_2.0.6-2.deb package depends on it and it refuses to remove it.
 Doing a dpkg-deb --info libc6-dev_2.0.7pre1-2.deb aso shows a dependancy to
 the kernel-source-2.0.32.
 Any hints?
 
 thanks
 
 Damir

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Re: Bad blocks

1998-02-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:12:29PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
  I keep getting {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }'s and I 
 figure
it's all bad blocks.  I ran fsck /dev/hda2 but it only seems to do a
cursory examination (not taking nearly as long as the scan when I installed
Linux) and I keep getting the same errors after presumably correcting them.
 So I was wondering what the utility was to thouroughly check all of the HD
for errors.
 
 Use the badblocks(8) program.
 
  Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, 
 how
can I load linux sans mounting the HD?  does it work if I boot from a
floppy?
 
 It shouldn't be a problem to run badblocks while the HD is mounted; it
 does not write to the drive, just reads from it.

Hmmm. If badblocks doesn't write to the drive, how will this help?
e2fsck -c /dev/hda2 will run e2fsck, and it will run badblocks, and
note the blocks as bad and move all the data it can to other places.

Note that these IDE disk errors can be power supply related. Most of
the errors I was having with a disk went away when I replaced the power
supply. One bad sector remained which I fixed with e2fsck.

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HELP: Got in security trouble.

1998-02-27 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hello,

If you know good documentation/Web pages about Security of Debian system and 
especially Web server, and how to set them right on Debian Box, please send me 
a note.  Below is yet another story of hacker attack, which you may just 
ignore.  Sorry if it is not exactly Debian issue.

Thank you,
Sasha.

--  ONE MORE STORY ABOUT HACKERS ATTACK --

Well it may be true that there really is a hacker contest these days.  Here is 
the story: couple of days ago hacker broke into our SGI system, managed to get 
root password but was noticed very quickly (like 20 minutes). Did not do any 
harm to our knowledge.  We are academic institution, and there is really not 
much of interest.

Our system administrator was swearting for 3 day to figure out that he/she 
broke through WWW server using security hole in CGI module to steal vital file 
which they used to break in. It turned out that it was me who convince A to 
install this CGI module, which apparently I did not compile with all security 
knobs turned on in my laziness.  Well the module is erased and good chunk of 
my pages that I was so proud of are gone.  Right now System administrator is 
extremely concerned and I have very little chances to convince him to put my 
pages back.  So perhaps I'll put them on my Debian box, but now (welcome to 
hell) I need to manage WWW security there.

SPECIFIC QUESTIONS:
1. Is Apache WWW server considered reasonably secure?
2. I used CGI module for WWW interface to MySQL database, any recommendations 
for good-free-secure one?
3. We know when the hacker tried to login, and from where, (from AOL for 
example) Are there any friendly communities on the Web to contact to try to 
chase him down? (But I'm not sure it's worth the effort). Any thoughts about 
what bad things this hacker could possibly leave and we need to remove?

Thanks again,
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X crashes

1998-02-27 Thread Martin Pelikan
Hi,

My X crashes quite often. It happens usually after I run netscape
communicator but I am not so sure that it's caused by that. Nothing
special is running usually, just few Xterms and when I try to switch
screens it just crashes and exits to bash prompt. I use afterstep window
manager. Does anyone know what might cause this and how could I avoid
it?

Martin


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Re: Possible new name for deity

1998-02-27 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
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  has been code-named Deity until now.

What a pity, I'd love to see the deity install satan :)

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Re: Possible new name for deity

1998-02-27 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 Red Hat already did Disk Druid.
 

what about ppenguin, the package penguin?

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diagnosing smail (2)

1998-02-27 Thread David Stern
Hi,

This is a slightly shorter version of some questions I asked earlier 
regarding smail configuration.  I've read all the smail docs available 
and there is no definitive smail resource, so I'd really appreciate it 
if someone would *PLease* take a few moments to reply.

1.) How can I find out what ident_sender, as well as all other 
variables, are assigneded as?  (I need to know so I can test what is 
happening; e.g.: when I set visible_name to u.washington.edu, and 
restart smail and inetd or reboot, there is no change, but I don't know 
why. I've tried echoing and mailing the variables, but I must be doing 
it wrong.)

2.) Why does from_field require it begin From: (as shown in the man 
page below) and does from_field rewrite the From: line, or the 
Sender: line and how does it decide? (It seems ambiguous.)

8--- man smailconf(5) -8

  from_field
type: string

This string will be expanded to form From: or Sender:
fields. The expanded string must begin with From:, 
which may be replaced by other strings to form an   
actual header field. The default value is:

  From: $sender${if def:sender_name: ($sender_name)}

8--8

3.) What is the difference between the roles of Sender:, Return-path:, 
and From: lines and are each required according to RFC's?  (It was my 
understanding that there was some contention as to whether the Sender: 
line was required, but that it was desirable because it acts as an 
envelope, which is a good thing for some MTA's and MUA's.  I'm not 
clear about the roles of Return-path:, From:, and Sender: or which are 
required.)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: dump screen to file

1998-02-27 Thread Jean-Michel Rouet
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 How can I dumb the console screen to a file via a bash shell command (or
 program)?
 

man xwd

man import (in ImageMagick package)

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Re: 2.0.33 kernel and libc6 dependancies

1998-02-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Create or download a kernel-headers-2.0.32 package, and
 install that. Then you should be able to remove the kernel sources.

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Re: stm (was Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message))

1998-02-27 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Benoit Goudreault-Emond wrote:

 [A heck of a lot clipped]
   
   I hope that will be of some use to you.
   
  
  Apparently not... I am beginning to think I need to raise some money for a
  new monitor.. :( limits: 30-50 horiz 50-75 Vert
  Oh well...
 
 Well, you can change the first number on the modeline, I beleive it's
 the dot clock.  Lowering that will allow you to drive the monitor at a
 lower synch rate.
 
 'Sides, I had a monitor which had about the same specs once, and I ran @ 
 100x37
 but at ~70 Hz, IIRC.  You should be able to do the same (hint: you should be
 able to drive the 100x37 mode at the same frequency you drive your monitor 
 when
 in 800x600 graphical mode).  Unfortunately, I don't know what happened to that
 particular configuration.  Sorry.

Hmm, I used to have that running with my tseng et4000, but when I went to
my new s3 virge, It died completely... anyway, 80x34 is fine... 80x25 is
just too large... I hate DOS so much... :)
 
 Again, be darn careful when fooling around with SVGATextMode.  Keep one 
 console
 with stm 80x25 ready, and your finger on the monitor's off switch. :)

I think that goes without saying...


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i made a mess with dselect

1998-02-27 Thread Alain Toussaint
tonight,i got dselect to upgrade my debian distribution,i connected to the
ftp.debian.org site (via dselect),cd to /debian,it updated her package.gz
file,and i choosen to install all package suggested by dselect in the
install menu,but the installation has gone wrong,i tried to undo the
change but this only got me in trouble (i'm a beginner only using debian
since 4th january),here's what i want to know,i need to save my personnal
mail,i want to wipe-out the linux partition and re-install thing up (i'm
using a CD from boot magazine to install debian on my computer):

1-:my mail is stored in /var/spool/mail/$USER (i.e.my username),do i need
just to copy this file (to another partition) and when i'm done,i re-copy
the file to it original place (i.e. /var/spool/mail/$USER) and pine will
acomodate it ??

2-:if i wipe-out my hard disk,does PPP networking would be available on
the boot,root and install disk so that instead of using the CD,i could
connect directly to the net for the latest distribution ??

3 (and last)-:the distribution on the CD is debian 1.3.0 and the one from
ftp.debian.org is 1.3.1r6 (i think..i'm not sure),does it is worth the
trouble to connect to the net for the latest release or i'm better of
keeping the CD version ??

thanks a lot
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r* commands don't work

1998-02-27 Thread Richard G. Roberto
Hi,

I sent a message about this when I had the problem at my
last job.  I left the job before ever resolving this.  I'm
at a new job now and I'm trying to integrate linux somehow
into our environment.  I plan on using linux for some minor
development at first, just to get some linux machines in
there.  However, I still can't get the r* commands to work.
I do this every day on Solaris, SunOS, and formerly HP-UX.
Can someone tell my why this doesn't work?  I can't even get
two linux boxes to talk to each other much less a Sun box.

I opened up .rhosts for root, hosts.equiv for everyone else,
and even .rhosts for myself, but to no avail.  I have no
hosts.allow or hosts.deny file, nor am I using tcpd at all.
Host names resolve via DNS or /etc/hosts with no problem.  I
tried having the hostname returned by uname -n be fully
qualified just in case the linux r* commands are picky about
that, but they shouldn't be with a + in these files!
Nothing works, and its pretty annoying.  It really renders
the project useless if I can't get root access without
needing passwords since I need to do stuff in scripts.  I
need rsh as well as rdist capabilities.  Ssh is not an
option at the moment, and really isn't the issue anyway.

Shouldn't this just work??  What can I do to provide useful
debuggin information?  auth.log and daemon.log give standard
permission denied crap.  I modified inetd.conf to have:

login   stream  tcp nowait  root /usr/bin/strace \
/usr/bin/strace -fv -o/tmp/OUT /usr/sbin/in.rlogind

(the line continuation is just for this mail, its not in
the file).  I modified rshd similarly.  I have the strace
files, but they didn't shed any light on it from my house.
I'd be glad to send them to someone who would be able to
make better use of them.  I'm open to any other suggestions
as well.

By the by, all other network related communications work OK,
including YP client services, NFS, telnet, ftp, http, imap,
ldap, etc.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Cheers,

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Re: i made a mess with dselect

1998-02-27 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

As is pointed out on the Debian site, you can get a really low priced
version of the Official Debian CD from several web sites for around $5 or
$6 if you don't want to download the entire distribution off the net.  I
would mention the company but I am not sure if that it considered
advertisment on this list.  Check out the Debian web site.

I think it is very worth it to have the latest stable release of any
software package or distribution.

-Ossama

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AW: r* commands don't work

1998-02-27 Thread TBaetzle
 Richard G. Roberto asked:
[...]
 However, I still can't get the r* commands to work.
[...]
 I opened up .rhosts for root, hosts.equiv for everyone else,
 and even .rhosts for myself, but to no avail. 
[...]

Let's review your setup. You want to be able to rsh/rlogin 
to root on a remote system, right? Did you

- allow root to login from remote by adding the ttyp*
consoles to /etc/securetty (man 5 securetty)?
- enable .rhosts for the superuser by adding -h to the
in.rlogind optionlist in /etc/inetd.conf (man 8 rlogind)?

That's all you need to do to get this working on a
bo R6 system. I just tried it on one of my boxes,
and it worked just fine. 

OT: Aren't you on the TLUG list, too?

HTH,
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upgrading to current smail

1998-02-27 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

I've had to install the bo smail, and leave it htere the last few months.

About the time the spam provisions went in, the new smails don't seem to talk 
to the outside world; everything bounces both ways.  I last tried a hamm 
version last week.  However,every time i reinstall bo's, it all works fine.

Is there a doc somewhere on debugging after the upgrade?

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Re: Bad blocks

1998-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
  Also, I've been told not to run disk checks while the HD is mounted, 
how
   can I load linux sans mounting the HD?  does it work if I boot from a
   floppy?

It shouldn't be a problem to run badblocks while the HD is mounted; it
does not write to the drive, just reads from it.

   Hmmm. If badblocks doesn't write to the drive, how will this help?
   e2fsck -c /dev/hda2 will run e2fsck, and it will run badblocks, and
   note the blocks as bad and move all the data it can to other places.

Running badblocks by itself first is a good way to determine whether
you should just do an `e2fsck -c' or whether it's time to buy a new
drive :-)


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Re: AW: r* commands don't work

1998-02-27 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Richard G. Roberto asked:
 [...]
  However, I still can't get the r* commands to work.
 [...]
  I opened up .rhosts for root, hosts.equiv for everyone else,
  and even .rhosts for myself, but to no avail. 
 [...]
 
 Let's review your setup. You want to be able to rsh/rlogin 
 to root on a remote system, right? Did you

I my other mail I said that I need to do rsh and rdist.

 
 - allow root to login from remote by adding the ttyp*
 consoles to /etc/securetty (man 5 securetty)?

Done.  I can log in via rlogin (requiring a password) or
telnet with no problem.  Again, I said that in my last mail
as well.

 - enable .rhosts for the superuser by adding -h to the
 in.rlogind optionlist in /etc/inetd.conf (man 8 rlogind)?

on my system:

RLOGIND(8)   UNIX System Manager's Manual
RLOGIND(8)

NAME
 rlogind - remote login server

SYNOPSIS
 rlogind [-aln]

DESCRIPTION
 Rlogind is the server for the rlogin(1) program.  The server provides a
 remote login facility with authentication based on privileged port num
 bers from trusted hosts.

 Options supported by rlogind:

 -a  Ask hostname for verification.

 -l  Prevent any authentication based on the user's ``.rhosts'' file,
 unless the user is logging in as the superuser.

 -n  Disable keep-alive messages.

It goes on to describe that authentication is done as
described in the rshd man page.  Besides, I'm very much more
interested in rsh anyway.  There is no mention of a -h
option, but there is mention of the ruserok system call, and
its manpage, but I can't find that man page.  Also, I can't
do this as myself either -- or any user, as stated in my
last mail.

I have netstd 2.05-1 and netbase 2.04-1 with libc5 5.4.20-1.

 
 That's all you need to do to get this working on a
 bo R6 system. I just tried it on one of my boxes,
 and it worked just fine. 

I'm not sure what bo R6 means, but the packages listed above
should be useful to someone as a checkpoint.  I'd like to
install hamm from scratch, but I can't get the install disks
to work.

 
 OT: Aren't you on the TLUG list, too?

What's the TLUG list?  I'm on the ptk list but that's got
nothing to do with this, nor is it even linux specific.

Thanks

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php3 + apache = undefined `table_elts'

1998-02-27 Thread tibor simko
hello

i'm using:

  php3 version 3.0b4-1
  apache version 1.3b5-2

after having enabled the loading of php3 module in the apache config,
i've got the following error while restarting the apache daemon:

  Restarting apache daemon...Syntax error on line 93 of
  /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf: dlopen() error in mod_dlopen:
  /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_php3.so: undefined symbol: table_elts
  loading php3_module failed.

how come that `table_elts' is not defined?  has someone been more
succesful than me?
  
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AW: AW: r* commands don't work

1998-02-27 Thread TBaetzle
Hello Richard,

you wrote:
[...]
  - enable .rhosts for the superuser by adding -h to the
  in.rlogind optionlist in /etc/inetd.conf (man 8 rlogind)?
 
 on my system:
[no -h in man 8 rlogind. Hmmm...]
 I have netstd 2.05-1 and netbase 2.04-1 with libc5 5.4.20-1.
 
This might be part of the problem. I have netbase and netstd
2.16-1 and libc5 5.4.33-6. bo R6 means that I'm talking about
Debian 1.3.1 R6, i.e. the stuff that's the current stable release
that's out on the FTP servers.

 What's the TLUG list?  I'm on the ptk list but that's got
 nothing to do with this, nor is it even linux specific.
 
It's the Tokyo Linux User's Group's Mailing List. Seeing
that you're from *.jp I was wondering wether you knew
about it. While it's not particularly Debian-centric, it's a
great place to get general and JP-related Linux info.

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Re: r* commands don't work

1998-02-27 Thread Tim Sailer
Richard G. Roberto wrote:
 I opened up .rhosts for root, hosts.equiv for everyone else,
 and even .rhosts for myself, but to no avail.  I have no
 hosts.allow or hosts.deny file, nor am I using tcpd at all.
 Host names resolve via DNS or /etc/hosts with no problem.  I
 tried having the hostname returned by uname -n be fully
 qualified just in case the linux r* commands are picky about
 that, but they shouldn't be with a + in these files!
 Nothing works, and its pretty annoying.  It really renders
 the project useless if I can't get root access without
 needing passwords since I need to do stuff in scripts.  I
 need rsh as well as rdist capabilities.  Ssh is not an
 option at the moment, and really isn't the issue anyway.

Part of the security behind the .rhosts files are that they will
not work unless they are mode 644. This way only the owner can
add to them. Make sure the ownership is correct too.

Tim

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Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.

1998-02-27 Thread john
Sasha writes:
 Below is yet another story of hacker attack,...

Please do not refer to these people as hackers.  This is not Newsweek.
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Re: diagnosing smail (2)

1998-02-27 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, David Stern wrote:

 This is a slightly shorter version of some questions I asked earlier 
 regarding smail configuration.  I've read all the smail docs available 
 and there is no definitive smail resource, so I'd really appreciate it 
 if someone would *PLease* take a few moments to reply.

I'm no smail expert but here goes.  There is an smail mailing list
which you should find useful: 

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 1.) How can I find out what ident_sender, as well as all other 
 variables, are assigneded as?  (I need to know so I can test what is 
 happening; e.g.: when I set visible_name to u.washington.edu, and 
 restart smail and inetd or reboot, there is no change, but I don't know 
 why. I've tried echoing and mailing the variables, but I must be doing 
 it wrong.)

Use the rewriting rules as in your 2nd question and included and
variable you like with the prefix $.


 2.) Why does from_field require it begin From: (as shown in the man 
 page below) and does from_field rewrite the From: line, or the 
 Sender: line and how does it decide? (It seems ambiguous.)

I believe the From:  is required by IETF standards.

 3.) What is the difference between the roles of Sender:, Return-path:, 
 and From: lines and are each required according to RFC's?  (It was my 
 understanding that there was some contention as to whether the Sender: 
 line was required, but that it was desirable because it acts as an 
 envelope, which is a good thing for some MTA's and MUA's.  I'm not 
 clear about the roles of Return-path:, From:, and Sender: or which are 
 required.)

Not sure on this one.  From:  is always required.  The others are
optional.  For example, pine will prompt the user if Return-path: 
is defined in the message if they would prefer to use that instead of
From: .

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Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.

1998-02-27 Thread Ossama Othman


  Below is yet another story of hacker attack,...
 
 Please do not refer to these people as hackers.  This is not Newsweek.

Okay...then what are they?  Gremlins?  Heh..sorry.  :-)

In all seriousness, what would you call them?  I understand that those of
us who hack code to improve it may also be called hackers, such as Linux
kernel hackers.  The rest of the world external to the computer world
seems to have adopted the term hacker to mean a person who performs
computer/network related malicious acts.

Who is right and who is wrong?  I would have to say neither.  Each of us
is entitled to their own interpretation.

Thank you for taking Hacker Philosophy 101.  We now return you to your
Debian scheduled program.  :-)

-Ossama


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Re: still crashing -- narrowing it down some though

1998-02-27 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Marcin Kadziolka wrote:

 Have you got any related messages in /var/log/kern* or something?

Not a thing.  (I don't have a /var/log/kern* directory -- just
/var/log/messages ...) The last entry in /var/log/messages is the last
line from bootup,  and the next entry is the restart message I get after I
turn the computer off and back on when it crashes.

 Will


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Netscape doesn't save ftp messages

1998-02-27 Thread Jim Lynch
I've had this problem for a long time, but have been ignoring it.
When ever I click on a link using Netscape that is of the form
ftp://ftp.xyz.com/dir/file  the file is displayed in the netscape 
window.  That's sorta OK for text files, but binary files do the
same thing.  On other versions of netscape it brings up a 
save file dialog.  I'm running Netscape 3.01, and Debian 1.3. 

How do I fix this?

Thanks,
Jim.



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Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.

1998-02-27 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 
 
   Below is yet another story of hacker attack,...
  
  Please do not refer to these people as hackers.  This is not Newsweek.
 
 Okay...then what are they?  Gremlins?  Heh..sorry.  :-)

:cracker: /n./  One who breaks security on a system.  Coined
   ca. 1985 by hackers in defense against journalistic misuse of
   {hacker} (q.v., sense 8).  An earlier attempt to establish
   `worm' in this sense around 1981--82 on Usenet was largely a
   failure.

It's in the jargon file, that indispensable source of information for
those who know everything better ;)  Of course it is in it's own debian
package as an info file.

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Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.

1998-02-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Ossama Othman wrote:
: 
:   Below is yet another story of hacker attack,...
:  
:  Please do not refer to these people as hackers.  This is not Newsweek.
: 
: Okay...then what are they?  Gremlins?  Heh..sorry.  :-)
: 
: In all seriousness, what would you call them?  I understand that those of
: us who hack code to improve it may also be called hackers, such as Linux
: kernel hackers.  The rest of the world external to the computer world
: seems to have adopted the term hacker to mean a person who performs
: computer/network related malicious acts.

How about crackers, criminals, miscreants, vandals ...

: Who is right and who is wrong?  I would have to say neither.  Each of us
: is entitled to their own interpretation.

Sure.  You're entitled to any interpretation you please, but that
doesn't make you right.  Take a look at the jargon file.

: Thank you for taking Hacker Philosophy 101.  We now return you to your
: Debian scheduled program.  :-)
: 
: -Ossama

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Re: A need to manualy run /etc/cron.weekly/man-db

1998-02-27 Thread fpolacco
On Wed, Feb 25, 1998 at 11:02:08PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   And after I turned on the power, rebooted and logged again, I got a 
   segmentation fault whenever I tried to man -w something. Only after 
   manualy 
   running the script the man -w something worked.
   Has someone else experienced this ?
  
  Yes. Please refer to the Debian-user faq:
  http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=58showEditCmds=1
 
  it´s because the database of man-db is corrupted.
 
 The above reference (fom?...) is claims that the DB is getting corrupted and 
 that rebuliding it solves the problem. This is seems to an answer.
 However, it is also said that the DB corruption is due to a failed search. 
 But 
 my claim is that the corruption appears after using the reboot or shutdown 
 command from an xterm. Furthere, when I reboot or shutdown the machine from a 
 VT (after switching to a VT using ctrl+alt+F?), the DB does not get corrupted.
 Is this a bug ?

This reference to the reboot (and a previous one to running xman) make
me suspicious. I wasn't able to corrupt the db even when turnung off the
machine during use of man.

The only corruption that I have seen is the one drived by use of the
utility info which is solved by version 2.3.10-45 . which version are
you running ( dpkg -s man-db   can tell you)?


However the newest version of man-db for bo (libc5) is available in
bo-unstable (2.3.10-59bo61) toghether with a safer version of groff.


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Problem with deinstalling emacs20

1998-02-27 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi,
I can not (completely) deinstall emacs20. I have removed all emacs*
packages, including emacs, emacs19, but I do not get rid of emacs20.
This is not WinExploder in disguise, is it? ;-)
I want to remove it because I had the impression it did not install
properly. How do I get rid of it (without installing the whole system
again)?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~dpkg -l emacs*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
pn  emacs   none (no description available)
pn  emacs-czech none (no description available)
pn  emacs-elnone (no description available)
pn  emacs-lisp-intr none (no description available)
un  emacs19 none (no description available)
pF  emacs20 20.2-2 The GNU Emacs editor.
pn  emacs20-el  none (no description available)
un  emacsen none (no description available)
pn  emacsen-common  none (no description available)
pn  emacspeak   none (no description available)
pn  emacspeak-dtnone (no description available)


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~dpkg --purge emacs20
(Reading database ... 24882 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing emacs20 ...
Checking available versions of ctags, updating links in /etc/alternatives
...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Discarding obsolete slave link ctags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/ctags.1.gz).
Last package providing ctags (/usr/bin/ctags) removed, deleting it.
Checking available versions of etags, updating links in /etc/alternatives
...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Discarding obsolete slave link etags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/etags.1.gz).
Last package providing etags (/usr/bin/etags) removed, deleting it.
Checking available versions of b2m, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Last package providing b2m (/usr/bin/b2m) removed, deleting it.
Checking available versions of emacsclient, updating links in
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Last package providing emacsclient (/usr/bin/emacsclient) removed, deleting
it.
Checking available versions of rcs-checkin, updating links in
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Last package providing rcs-checkin (/usr/bin/rcs-checkin) removed, deleting
it.
Checking available versions of emacs, updating links in /etc/alternatives
...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Discarding obsolete slave link emacs.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/emacs.1.gz).
Last package providing emacs (/usr/bin/emacs) removed, deleting it.
/var/lib/dpkg/info/emacs20.prerm: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove: No
such file or directory
dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--purge):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Checking available versions of ctags, updating links in /etc/alternatives
...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Updating ctags (/usr/bin/ctags) to point to /usr/bin/ctags.emacs20.
Updating ctags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/ctags.1.gz) to point to
/usr/man/man1/ctags.1emacs20.gz.
Checking available versions of etags, updating links in /etc/alternatives
...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Updating etags (/usr/bin/etags) to point to /usr/bin/etags.emacs20.
Updating etags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/etags.1.gz) to point to
/usr/man/man1/etags.1emacs20.gz.
Checking available versions of b2m, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Updating b2m (/usr/bin/b2m) to point to /usr/bin/b2m.emacs20.
Checking available versions of emacsclient, updating links in
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Updating emacsclient (/usr/bin/emacsclient) to point to
/usr/bin/emacsclient.emacs20.
Checking available versions of rcs-checkin, updating links in
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Updating rcs-checkin (/usr/bin/rcs-checkin) to point to
/usr/bin/rcs-checkin.emacs20.
Checking available versions of emacs, updating links in /etc/alternatives
...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see 
an ln'.)
Updating emacs (/usr/bin/emacs) to point to /usr/bin/emacs-20.2.
Updating emacs.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/emacs.1.gz) to point to
/usr/man/man1/emacs.1emacs20.gz.
Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish (forking to background)
Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock)
/var/lib/dpkg/info/emacs20.postinst: 

hard disk not ready - newbie, please forgive me!

1998-02-27 Thread ANDREW INFANTE



 I have a machine with an EIDE drive and a SCSI 1.3GB

 The SCSI is an old HP mainframe drive with 255 heads, 164 cylinders,
 and 63 sectors.  I am able to use the rescue disk to start the debian
 install, and then modify the settings with the expert commands withing
 FDISK so that it doesn't see 1024 cylinders.  After creating
 partitions, I went to initilize the partition for linux, and it tells
 me the drive is not ready.  Any idea what this means?  Do I need to
 format the drive or something?  What settings do I need to
 enable/disable to have the root partition and swap partitions set up
 on the drive?

 Thanks,

 Andy Infante
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Date: 2/27/98 8:59AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INTERNET
Subject: hard disk not ready - newbie, please forgive me!
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Re: HELP: Got in security trouble.

1998-02-27 Thread Ossama Othman
 
 : Who is right and who is wrong?  I would have to say neither.  Each of us
 : is entitled to their own interpretation.
 
 Sure.  You're entitled to any interpretation you please, but that
 doesn't make you right.  Take a look at the jargon file.

Hey, I agree that the term hacker is misused.  However, just because
something is in some jargon file doesn't make it right either.  History
books, for example, are many times right from the author's point of view
but may be completely incorrect from the point of view of the people that
the history book describes.

You say potato, I say POTATO.  (Need some voice e-mail for this one
:P)

Again, I do agree with you on the misuse of the term hacker.  (This is
just a preventative measure on my part so that I don`t nailed with
flames...heh.)

Sorry to keep this thread on the Debian list, guys.

-Ossama



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Re: Netscape doesn't save ftp messages

1998-02-27 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 I've had this problem for a long time, but have been ignoring it.
 When ever I click on a link using Netscape that is of the form
 ftp://ftp.xyz.com/dir/file  the file is displayed in the netscape 
 window.  That's sorta OK for text files, but binary files do the
 same thing.  On other versions of netscape it brings up a 
 save file dialog.  I'm running Netscape 3.01, and Debian 1.3. 
 
 How do I fix this?

Right click on the link and choose Save link as ...

Eric Meijer

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Re: diagnosing smail

1998-02-27 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes:

 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to beat smail down with a stick, am having a little trouble 
 (actually more than a little).  Would somebody *PLease* translate into 
 English this brief /etc/smail/config snippet and answer three questions?
 
   from_field=From: \
   ${if def:ident_sender\
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   {$sender${if def:sender_name: ($sender_name)}}}
 
 (My interpretation: look at the From: line (or Sender: line, which?), 
 and if the sender's identification code (whatever that means) is 
 non-null (exists), then rewrite that line (which one: From: or Sender: 
 ?) to look like .. here it breaks down, and that extra condition in the 
 last line confuses me.)

My interpretation is that smail only makes use of the from_field
variable if incoming mail has no From: or Sender: fields already;
further, if there is a From: field already, then smail inserts a
Sender: field using the from_field information only if the
pre-existing From: field doesn't match what smail would have written
with from_field.
 
 1.) What is the difference between the roles of Sender:, Return-path:, 
 and From: lines and are each required according to RFC's?  (It was my 
 understanding that there was some contention as to whether the Sender: 
 line was required, but that it was desirable because it acts as an 
 envelope, which is a good thing for some MTA's and MUA's.  I'm not 
 clear about the roles of Return-path:, From:, and Sender: or which are 
 required.)

Ok - the idea is that the From: line should be the email address of
the person the mail is from, whereas the Sender: is the email address
of the account the mail is from, if that's different.  (Sender:
headers are not required if the From: address also represents the
account the mail comes from).  Return-path: headers I don't quite
understand; from what I can tell, they're used at this point mostly
for automated error messages, and should only be inserted by the final 
MTA in the mail delivery process.  What doesn't make sense about this
to me is that often the last MTA may not have a clue as to how to go
about returning mail, whereas the first MTA in the process has a
chance of knowing how to get back to itself.  Perhaps this makes more
sense in a UUCP environment.

 2.) Why does from_field require it begin From: (as shown in the man 
 page below) and does from_field rewrite the From: line, or the 
 Sender: line and how does it decide? (It seems ambiguous.)

I think there are historic reasons (before from_field was used for
Sender: fields) for having it begin with From:.

 3.) How can I find out what ident_sender, as well as all other 
 variables, are assigneded as?  (I need to know so I can test what is 
 happening; e.g.: when I set visible_name to u.washington.edu, and 
 restart smail and inetd or reboot, there is no change, but I don't know 
 why. I've tried echoing and mailing the variables, but I must be doing 
 it wrong.)

The best thing I can think of is a transport using the pipe driver.
Try adding the following to your /etc/smail/routers (before any
smarthost directive, of course):
match-fake-diag-addrs:
driver=gethostbyname,
transport=diagnosticpipe;
required=diagnostic

Then add the following (anywhere) to your /etc/smail/transports file:
diagnosticpipe:
driver = pipe;
cmd = /etc/smail/diagnostic.pl ${if def:ident_sender \
{$ident_sender} {no_ident_sender}} ${if \
origin:local {origin:local} {origin:remote}},
umask = 0022

You can add arguments to the cmd above if there's anything else you
want to find out about that isn't already shown in the environment.

Then, make the following short perl script /etc/smail/diagnostic.pl
(and make it executable):
#!/usr/bin/perl
open(STDOUT, /tmp/smaildiag.$$);
$| = 1;
foreach (@ARGV) { print argument: $_\n; }
print ---env:\n;
system(env);
print --stdin:\n;
system(cat);

Finally, add the following line to your /etc/hosts file:
192.68.42.47dummyhost.diagnostic

Now, any mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will get logged to
a file of the form /tmp/smaildiag.*

Now, one strong word of caution: I've been trying this, and can't get
it to work, quite - apparently (at least with the smail I have), it's
an expansion error to include a ${if ... } clause in the cmd attribute 
- yes, I know this doesn't make sense, but apparently it's true.  (why 
smail would use different string expansion rules in different places
and NOT DOCUMENT IT is beyond me.)  Maybe, though, it's just a bug in
my 3.2-3 smail.  (I hope so, because it's certainly broken behavior)

I can get it to work if I cut out all the if clauses.  (Well actually, 
it then only works when it should according to the documentation -
that is, /etc/smail/diagnostic.pl $ident_sender works only when
ident_sender is defined)

If smail 3.100 has similar problems, that could explain why things
aren't working well, if you have a ${if ... } expansion in an
insert_header 

Re: diagnosing smail (2)

1998-02-27 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Not sure on this one.  From:  is always required.  The others are
 optional.  For example, pine will prompt the user if Return-path: 
 is defined in the message if they would prefer to use that instead of
 From: .

You're confusing Return-Path: with Reply-To:.  Return-path: is
an entirely different beast.


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X install/config query

1998-02-27 Thread Dean Allen Provins
Hello:

I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete
the process correctly.  X was not configured (although everything else
that I have tried seems to be).

I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system.

Should I remove X and re-install, or is there another way?

Thanks,

Dean Provins


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What is /var/log/messages telling me???

1998-02-27 Thread Paul Rightley
I looked in my /var/log/messages and found the following lines
(where I have removed any specific names and/or IP's).  What
are these lines telling me?

Feb 24 06:54:45 shroom syslogd 1.3-3#22: restart.   
Feb 24 13:34:21 shroom kernel: ICMP redirect from IP.IP.IP.IP  
Feb 24 13:34:21 shroom last message repeated 3 times
Feb 24 13:34:21 shroom kernel: ICMP: cannot handle TOS redirects yet!   
Feb 24 13:34:21 shroom last message repeated 3 times
Feb 24 13:35:38 shroom ftpd[895]: repeated login failures from some.machine.com

Are there any well documented (i.e. usably documented) articles and/or
books on securtiy in Linux.  I have no idea what TCP wrappers (or whatever)
are, but I hear talk of them...  I would really love an easy-to-set-up
security utility and readible security logs.  I know, I know, I should
go out and write something like this  (Now, if I would just learn
a language other that Fortran...)

Thanks for any assistance,

Paul Rightley


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Re: Netscape doesn't save ftp messages

1998-02-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Jim Lynch wrote:

 I've had this problem for a long time, but have been ignoring it.
 When ever I click on a link using Netscape that is of the form
 ftp://ftp.xyz.com/dir/file  the file is displayed in the netscape 
 window.  That's sorta OK for text files, but binary files do the
 same thing.  On other versions of netscape it brings up a 
 save file dialog.  I'm running Netscape 3.01, and Debian 1.3. 
 
 How do I fix this?

shift-click.

You should be able to edit the preferences to make the save box pop up
also.  I'm running 4.04 now and don't remember the exact format of this,
however. 

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Re: Problem with deinstalling emacs20

1998-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Hi,
   I can not (completely) deinstall emacs20. I have removed all emacs*
   packages, including emacs, emacs19, but I do not get rid of emacs20.
   This is not WinExploder in disguise, is it? ;-)
   I want to remove it because I had the impression it did not install
   properly. How do I get rid of it (without installing the whole system
   again)?

Somehow you managed to remove the emacsen-common package without
removing emacs20.  Since emacs20 depends on emacsen-common, this means
you must have forced dpkg to ignore dependencies.  This is a bad
thing.

To fix the problem, reinstall emacsen-common, then remove emacs20,
then remove emacsen-common.


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Re: X install/config query

1998-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Hello:

   I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete
   the process correctly.  X was not configured (although everything else
   that I have tried seems to be).

   I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system.

If neither of these is there, then you don't have X installed.  You
must install xbase and one of the xserver-* packages.  If you want to
use XF86Setup then you must also install xserver-vga16.


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Re: X install/config query

1998-02-27 Thread Dean Allen Provins
Hello:
 
I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete
the process correctly.  X was not configured (although everything else
that I have tried seems to be).
 
I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system.
 
 If neither of these is there, then you don't have X installed.  You
 must install xbase and one of the xserver-* packages.  If you want to
 use XF86Setup then you must also install xserver-vga16.
 

Clearly, it wasn't installed correctly.  There are all kinds of X
applications and libraries in place, but I must have missed
something.  I presume that a remove and re-install is the correct
procedure then?

Dean


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Re: Problem with deinstalling emacs20

1998-02-27 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi,
On 27 Feb 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:

 Somehow you managed to remove the emacsen-common package without
 removing emacs20.  Since emacs20 depends on emacsen-common, this means
 you must have forced dpkg to ignore dependencies.  This is a bad
 thing.
 
 To fix the problem, reinstall emacsen-common, then remove emacs20,
 then remove emacsen-common.
Yup, this did the trick! Thank you very much, I really like Debian (support) 

Ciao,
Christian.


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NO error in fdisk :D

1998-02-27 Thread HELMUT LEINFELLNER
Hi !

Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux
on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions
FIRST.
The only thing still to solve right now is this:
DOS fdisk gives:

1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100%
2 EXT DOS1000   100%
3 Non-DOS  6423%
4 Non-DOS2047   100%

Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively.
DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended
one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB
size.)

Can anyone help ?

Thanks a lot so far !

Helmut


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Re: NO error in fdisk :D

1998-02-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote:

: Hi !
: 
: Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux
: on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions
: FIRST.
: The only thing still to solve right now is this:
: DOS fdisk gives:
: 
: 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100%
: 2 EXT DOS1000   100%
: 3 Non-DOS  6423%
: 4 Non-DOS2047   100%
: 
: Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively.
: DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended
: one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB
: size.)
: 
: Can anyone help ?

I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before,
sorry.

What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2?  If you used NORMAL
mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased
with a partition that has cylinder numbers  1024.

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Re: NO error in fdisk :D

1998-02-27 Thread HELMUT LEINFELLNER
Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote:
 
 : Hi !
 :
 : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux
 : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions
 : FIRST.
 : The only thing still to solve right now is this:
 : DOS fdisk gives:
 :
 : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100%
 : 2 EXT DOS1000   100%
 : 3 Non-DOS  6423%
 : 4 Non-DOS2047   100%
 :
 : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively.
 : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended
 : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB
 : size.)
 :
 : Can anyone help ?
 
 I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before,
 sorry.
 
 What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2?  If you used NORMAL
 mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased
 with a partition that has cylinder numbers  1024.
 

The CHS for this hard disk (4,3 GB) are:
C 14848
H 9
S 63
BIOS recognises 14848 and NORMAL   or
  524 and LBA  or
 7424 and LARGE

I have currently set it to NORMAL.

Helmut


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Re: NO error in fdisk :D

1998-02-27 Thread HELMUT LEINFELLNER
Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote:
 
 : Hi !
 :
 : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux
 : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions
 : FIRST.
 : The only thing still to solve right now is this:
 : DOS fdisk gives:
 :
 : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100%
 : 2 EXT DOS1000   100%
 : 3 Non-DOS  6423%
 : 4 Non-DOS2047   100%
 :
 : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively.
 : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended
 : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB
 : size.)
 :
 : Can anyone help ?
 
 I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before,
 sorry.
 
 What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2?  If you used NORMAL
 mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased
 with a partition that has cylinder numbers  1024.

I forgot to add my question :)

Does this mean I can't use two DOS paritions if the first one is already
1000 MB big ?

Hemut


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Re: X install/config query

1998-02-27 Thread David Stern
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:12:35 MST, wrote:
 Hello:

Hello

 I recently installed Debian 1.3 on a '386, but apparently did not complete
 the process correctly.  X was not configured (although everything else
 that I have tried seems to be).

If dselect or dpkg says your xserver isn't configured, you might try 
running through [C]onfigure once or twice in dselect.

 I cannot find 'xf86config' or 'XF86Setup' on the system.

Because configuration is incomplete, this could mean either it's not 
there, or you're not seeing it.  You can always run the xserver post 
install script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and confirm that the files in the 
xserver list file, also in /var/run/dpkg/info/ exist.  (There's no 
sense running configure if the files aren't there, and I don't know 
what kind of problem you encountered.)

 Should I remove X and re-install, or is there another way?

Sometimes dselect is quirky and it takes a couple tries, I've found.  If that 
doesn't work, I'd remove my X-server, then confirm that no outstanding 
conflicts or dependencies exist in dselect by running though installation in 
dselect, and then run through installation again in dselect, choosing your 
xserver.

I think that XF86Setup (nicer than xf86config), is only in the VGA xserver, 
reason being that this is supposed to be a good default.

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Re: NO error in fdisk :D

1998-02-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote:

: Nathan E Norman wrote:
:  
:  On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote:
:  
:  : Hi !
:  :
:  : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux
:  : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions
:  : FIRST.
:  : The only thing still to solve right now is this:
:  : DOS fdisk gives:
:  :
:  : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100%
:  : 2 EXT DOS1000   100%
:  : 3 Non-DOS  6423%
:  : 4 Non-DOS2047   100%
:  :
:  : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively.
:  : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended
:  : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB
:  : size.)
:  :
:  : Can anyone help ?
:  
:  I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before,
:  sorry.
:  
:  What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2?  If you used NORMAL
:  mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased
:  with a partition that has cylinder numbers  1024.
: 
: I forgot to add my question :)
: 
: Does this mean I can't use two DOS paritions if the first one is already
: 1000 MB big ?
: 
: Hemut

Well, maybe.  Here's the problem, as I understand it.  DOS doesn't like
partitions that cross the 1024 cylinder boundary - if your partition
starts at, say, cylinder 950 and ends at cylinder 1200, DOS will see
cylinders 950-1024, and that's it.  It won't see any partitions that
begin on a cylinder greater than 1024.

So, if your first partition is using up all the cylinders to 1024,
you're out of luck.

(What I was asking in my last email is which cylinder does each
partition begin and end on ... if you're running normal mode you're
alomost certainly bumping into the 1024 limit).

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Re: X install/config query

1998-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
If neither of these is there, then you don't have X installed.  You
must install xbase and one of the xserver-* packages.  If you want to
use XF86Setup then you must also install xserver-vga16.


   Clearly, it wasn't installed correctly.  There are all kinds of X
   applications and libraries in place, but I must have missed
   something.  I presume that a remove and re-install is the correct
   procedure then?

My guess is that you have the X libraries installed, but not the X
server.  See, if you do all your work on a remote machine, then you
don't need an X server but you can still use X applications.  But in
your case, you need to install one of xserver-* plus xbase.

If it still doesn't work after doing this, or if these are already
installed, then remove and re-install might help, but in general this
is not a solution to problems: this is not Winblows, where `reinstall'
is the cure to all problems.


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Re: NO error in fdisk :D

1998-02-27 Thread HELMUT LEINFELLNER
Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote:
 
 : Nathan E Norman wrote:
 : 
 :  On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, HELMUT LEINFELLNER wrote:
 : 
 :  : Hi !
 :  :
 :  : Just wanted to let you know that I can finally run both Win95 and Linux
 :  : on different partitions. The key to this was to put the DOS partitions
 :  : FIRST.
 :  : The only thing still to solve right now is this:
 :  : DOS fdisk gives:
 :  :
 :  : 1 PRI DOS YESHUA 1000 FAT16 100%
 :  : 2 EXT DOS1000   100%
 :  : 3 Non-DOS  6423%
 :  : 4 Non-DOS2047   100%
 :  :
 :  : Partition 3 + 4 are Linux swap and Linux native, respectively.
 :  : DOS fdisk recognises the primary DOS partition (1), but not the extended
 :  : one (2). (This one is split into 4 logical partitions, each 250 MB
 :  : size.)
 :  :
 :  : Can anyone help ?
 : 
 :  I'm hopping into this thread, so if I missed something from before,
 :  sorry.
 : 
 :  What are the cylinder numbers on partition 2?  If you used NORMAL
 :  mapping, which I seem to recall you did, DOS isn't going to be pleased
 :  with a partition that has cylinder numbers  1024.
 :
 : I forgot to add my question :)
 :
 : Does this mean I can't use two DOS paritions if the first one is already
 : 1000 MB big ?
 :
 : Hemut
 
 Well, maybe.  Here's the problem, as I understand it.  DOS doesn't like
 partitions that cross the 1024 cylinder boundary - if your partition
 starts at, say, cylinder 950 and ends at cylinder 1200, DOS will see
 cylinders 950-1024, and that's it.  It won't see any partitions that
 begin on a cylinder greater than 1024.
 
 So, if your first partition is using up all the cylinders to 1024,
 
 (What I was asking in my last email is which cylinder does each
 partition begin and end on ... if you're running normal mode you're
 alomost certainly bumping into the 1024 limit).
 

Can't tell you right now - I'm using a different computer.
I'll tell you later, OK ?

Thanks a lot for your help !

Helmut


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Re: dpkg thinks my pentium is an i486 ?

1998-02-27 Thread joost witteveen
In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Joost Kooij wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've been playing with some package's source and now I have a question:
 
 When I run ./debian/rules it prints lines containing:
 -DHOSTTYPE='i486' -DOSTYPE='linux-gnu' 
 -DMACHTYPE='i486-debian-linux-gnu'
 I think that the it is the line
   ARCH = $(shell dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture)
 that causes this, because it outputs i486
 
 Why does dpkg think that I have a 486 (it is a pentium)?

Isn't this because we want packages built on Intel systems to be the
same? If dpgk were to report Pentium, and some compiler is going
to create real Pentium code (that doesn't run on i386), then you
wouldn't be able to build Intel packages on your pentium any more.

Yes, I know gcc currently doesn't do much Pentium optimisations, so
at the moment the question between wheter dpkg should say i586
or i486 is rather pointless anyway. But when there will be a difference,
it's best to make sure that dpkg returns the same on all computers of
the same architecture. (architecture being one of {spark,i386,m86k,...})



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xemacs20

1998-02-27 Thread Matt Thompson
Hello,

I'm running a full hamm system and just installed the above.  When I tried
to run it for the first time, I got the following:

$ xemacs
xemacs: error in loading shared libraries
libcompface.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory

???

TIA for any help :)
matty


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Re: IBM Token Ring Card [does not work]

1998-02-27 Thread Adrian Bridgett
Try using the diagnostic tools and setting the card to Auto 16/4. I have a
Turbo 16/4 at work and it works fine. The routing table looks strange - how
does the kernel pick which card to send data out on?

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[snip]
 [kermit:/root] route
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
 eth *   255.255.255.0   U 0  01 eth0
 tok *   255.255.255.0   U 0  01 tr0
 localnet*   255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
 
 [kermit:/root] ping 192.234.10.10
 tr0: Unknown command 02 in arb
 tr0: Arrg. Transmitter busy for more than 50 msec. Donald resets adapter, but 
 resetting 
 the IBM tokenring adapter takes a long time. It might not even help when the 
 ring is very busy, so we just wait a little longer and hope for the best. 

Adrian

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lyx 0.12 final in hamm is actually bo ?

1998-02-27 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
Hi,

looks like lyx 0.12 binal bo version
live now in hamm tree.

Is it known probelm ?

regards

OK


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Problem with gmp? Conflict on /dev/ttyS0?

1998-02-27 Thread Charles Blair
   I have been using Debian linux on an IBM Thinkpad for about a month.
The machine only has one serial port.  I am using a modem and kermit
on that port, with device name /dev/ttyS0.  I have been able to make
remote connections with other machines, but there have been occasional
crashes and other puzzling behavior.

I have a partially installed X.  The pointer/mouse device in the
center of the keyboard doesn't work!  (it does work when I'm running
Windows 95).

I'm wondering whether these two problems may be related.  The booting
process calls a program gpm.  I don't know exactly what it does, but it
seems to want to make /dev/ttyS0 the mouse device, which is the serial
port on my machine.

What should I do?  My understanding of this stuff is very limited,
and I would like to avoid recompiling the kernel if possible.






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Re: trouble with the boot-block..

1998-02-27 Thread Gary Kline
According to Bill Leach:
 The install and rescue floppies are indeed supposed to use the ramfs. 
 Obviously the install floppy has to since at least most of the time
 there will be no other linux filesystem available.  However, the rescue
 floppy does also because it has to be able to boot fully even if the
 root partition is corrupt (and allow you to attempt to repair same).  So
 a boot floppy is yet a different critter and contains a kernel that has
 been patched (with rdev) to have your normal root partition set.
 
 When you boot the installation disks and answer the first few questions
 (color monitor, keyboard, etc), the hit an alt-F2 to access the second
 console.

All this makes sense, of course.  What I don't understand is
how something got written to the MBR and why my floppy drive
is ignored now.  To clear my SCSI drives 1 and 3, I'll have to
do a low-level format.  

 
 type 'mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /target
 [replacing /dev/hda1 with whatever is appropriate for your configuration
 of course]


All right.

 
 
 Lilo can remove lilo but the installation disks do not 'know' that lilo
 was previously installed and thus take no action when you choose not to
 use lilo--so yes, if you installed lilo and did not do something like
 fdisk/mbr is DOS or explicitly replace the boot record using the lilo
 command then lilo is still present.


As I think I mentioned to Jean Pierre, my knowledge of
DOS could be stuffed into a thimble.  At any rate, DOS
is gone, and /dev/fd0 is useless.  

Last night I catenated /target/etc/lilo.conf to stdout
and saw something like what you've got below.  But it
didn't do much good because I'm not familiar with the
file.  Also, didn't find anything in the boot that came
with v1.3.

Can you tell me what to edit to what to get rid of lilo
from the master boot rec?

 
 A lilo config file looks something like this:
 bash-2.01$ cat /etc/lilo.conf
 boot = /dev/hda - disk to boot from
 prompt - prompt for boot choices during boot
 timeout = 50 - continue boot with default if no response
 compact - kernel is compressed
 install = /boot/boot.b - location of the boot code
 map = /boot/map - location of the system map file
 vga = normal - vga display mode to use
 delay = 20 - i don't remember
 image = /vmlinuz - name  location of the linux kernel to load
 root = /dev/hda4 - system root device to use
 label = Linux - name for this instance of system
 read-only - always initially mount root read only
 vga = 9 - vga mode to use for this instance
 image = /vmlinuz.old - last kernel
 root = /dev/hda4
 label = bklinux
 read-only
 vga = 9
 image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.27 - a linux bo distribution system.
 root = /dev/hdb3
 label = olinux
 read-only
 vga = 9
 image = /vmlinuz.test - a linux testing partition
 root = /dev/hdb5
 label = test
 read-only
 vga = 9
 other=/dev/hda1 - an non-linux system
 table = /dev/hda - location of drive structure
 label = DOS - instance lable (and it is MSDOS)
 
 
 The lilo documentation is extensive and probably the about the best
 documentation in the entire Linux project but you do need to study it
 rather carefully if you want to be able to handle everything without
 problems.  Most things can be given 'defaults' in the general section
 (the section before the first image = line and then overridden in the
 individual sections.
 

From what I've read so far, the Linux docs are great...and
I know how murderous writing techical documentation is.

The reason I want to go Debian over other Linux version
is that Debian seems to be the BSD of Linux.  --Flames to
/dev/null, guys!--   Given its strengths toward quality-control
and attention to detail, hopefully Debian will be around for
a long, long time.

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Bad installation :(

1998-02-27 Thread Erik Rodríguez
Hello:

I checked my file system and it's ocuppied more less 60 MB (14%).

I know this is a very incomplete installation

I have de Debian CD-ROM so i could reinstall or patch.

It's recomendable to install all over again? or is more recommendable to 
patch my actual installation so i could someday have it complete?

I have a partition of 500 MB, can i install the complete distribution 
with this disk size?

Thanks

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Re: Bad installation :(

1998-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I checked my file system and it's ocuppied more less 60 MB (14%).

   I know this is a very incomplete installation

   I have de Debian CD-ROM so i could reinstall or patch.

   It's recomendable to install all over again? or is more recommendable to 
   patch my actual installation so i could someday have it complete?

Why do you think that there is something wrong with the installation?
Are programs not running properly?  It is quite possible to install
Linux and have only 60 MB of space taken up.  This would be a rather
minimal install, but it is possible.  Probably, you just need to
install some more programs.  Try using `dselect' to do this.


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.deb installation

1998-02-27 Thread Erik Rodríguez
Hello:

I have downloaded gcl_2_2_1-1.deb and libg++272-dev_2_7_2_8-0_1.deb from 
the www.debian.org website.

I downloaded them in my Win95 machine, i want to install them in my 
WinNT/Linux Machine.

I have mounted the WinNT File System on Linux.

How can i install the both packages in Linux with the other hard disk 
partition mounted or how can install the packages from floppies?

Thanks

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dselect nfs question

1998-02-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
This question is overly vague; sorry ...

I started playing with nfs today (nothing like a little excitement on a
friday).  I've got a 9 gig partition on a BSDI box, which holds my ftp
mirror of debian, among other things.  I want to be able to do local
installs via nfs.  So I fought my way through BSDI nfs config, and I can
now mount the filesystem on most any server I choose.  So far, so good.

However, when I choose the 'nfs' method from dselect, it says my BSDI
box isn't an nfs server.  I think this has something to do with RPC.  My
guess is that Linux and BSDI are using different versions of RPC.

I'm sure if I read the right fm I can figure this out, but I'm a bit
lost here - I've never delved into nfs or RPC at all :/  Any pointers as
to which fm's to r?

TIA,

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Re: .deb installation

1998-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
   How can i install the both packages in Linux with the other hard disk 
   partition mounted or how can install the packages from floppies?

dpkg -i FILENAME1.deb FILENAME2.deb


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Re: Server Questions (fwd)

1998-02-27 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 I'm familiar with the phenomena.  I'd happy to take your money, but I
 suspect that your boss wants to see a glossy brochure that says Debian
 Support, Inc. on the cover and lists dozens of Fortune 500 customers.
 
 It does seem like there is a business opportunity here.  A network of
 consultants around the world could handle the phone calls and emails while
 somebody with marketing skills fronted for them.

 Just make sure, that the one with the marketing skills does also support stuff.
 I've seen too many support things overmarketed.. sure, we can handle this...

 To jump a bit: At least here in Finland we could use a company (why not a 
 group) doing support stuff with Linux. I don't think it would be too hard to 
 handle all the distributions with a little and knowledgeable staff. With the 
 pricetag of NT+software+no support you could easily sell all the hardware+
 linux+ all the software+ support-contract stuff. 



 btw. I also know couple 'suits' who are extreamly sceptical about anykind 
 marketing. I count them as rare exceptions :) (..running Linux both..)

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Re: X crashes

1998-02-27 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 Hi,
 
 My X crashes quite often. It happens usually after I run netscape
 communicator but I am not so sure that it's caused by that. Nothing
 special is running usually, just few Xterms and when I try to switch
 screens it just crashes and exits to bash prompt. I use afterstep window
 manager. Does anyone know what might cause this and how could I avoid
 it?

 You are switching from virtual-console to X, or the other way, right ? 
 And moving the mouse at the same time? 

 This is some glitch with mouse device locking or something like that, 
 and causes X to crash. 
 
 Are there any errors from X?

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