Re: Question about what package to report bug

2024-03-06 Thread Erwan David
Le 06/03/2024 à 18:19, ke6jti a écrit : Hi, I have a possible kernel regression for a usb-dvb tuner card.  I know the error in dmesg points to kernel : au0828 but I am not sure what package this belongs to.  I think it belongs to v4l(video for linux) but I am still not sure what specific v4l

Question about what package to report bug

2024-03-06 Thread ke6jti
Hi, I have a possible kernel regression for a usb-dvb tuner card.  I know the error in dmesg points to kernel : au0828 but I am not sure what package this belongs to.  I think it belongs to v4l(video for linux) but I am still not sure what specific v4l package. Thanks for you help.

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?,oris it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

2024-03-05 Thread gene heskett
On 3/5/24 00:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 07:44:41PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 3/4/24 11:42, Albretch Mueller wrote: spend days on end reading, coding and thinking about Math? [...] Your traceroute might be your isp throttling things as traceroute demands an answer

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?, oris it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

2024-03-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 07:44:41PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 3/4/24 11:42, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > spend days on end reading, coding and thinking about Math? > [...] > Your traceroute might be your isp throttling things as traceroute demands an > answer from every machine it passes thru

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?, oris it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

2024-03-04 Thread gene heskett
On 3/4/24 11:42, Albretch Mueller wrote: spend days on end reading, coding and thinking about Math? [...] Your traceroute might be your isp throttling things as traceroute demands an answer from every machine it passes thru to get to the destination. Some ISP's might frown on that as its a

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?, or is it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

2024-03-04 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 3/4/24, Andy Smith wrote: > Please could you rephrase your entire email to only contain > coherent, direct questions at least tenuously about Debian. I am downloading one by one a bunch of (relatively small) documents I need (I work on corpora research) and the critical part of my bash

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?, or is it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

2024-03-04 Thread David Christensen
<>> DiG 9.18.19-1~deb12u1-Debian <<>> +time christuniversity.in ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 49715 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ;

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?, or is it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

2024-03-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 10:37:28AM -0600, Albretch Mueller wrote: > spend days on end reading, coding and thinking about Math? Please could you rephrase your entire email to only contain coherent, direct questions at least tenuously about Debian. If this results in an empty email, this is

electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?, or is it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

2024-03-04 Thread Albretch Mueller
299_dig.txt ; <<>> DiG 9.18.19-1~deb12u1-Debian <<>> +time christuniversity.in ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 49715 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSEC

Re: Generic Linux / clib question

2024-02-10 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 08:45:32AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > The readline library is released under the full GPL, not the LGPL. If > > > you dynamically link it with a program, then you can only release that > > > program under terms compatible with the

Re: Generic Linux / clib question

2024-02-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The readline library is released under the full GPL, not the LGPL. If > > you dynamically link it with a program, then you can only release that > > program under terms compatible with the GPL. This is an intentional > > choice. to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >

Re: Generic Linux / clib question

2024-02-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 06:36:18PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > The readline library is released under the full GPL, not the LGPL. If > you dynamically link it with a program, then you can only release that > program under terms compatible with the GPL. This is an intentional > choice.

Re: Generic Linux / clib question

2024-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 03:20:46PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 17:37 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 02:30:54PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > > Years ago, I knew the name of the routines one could use to have some > > > stdin history and be able to edit

Re: Generic Linux / clib question

2024-02-09 Thread Van Snyder
On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 17:37 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 02:30:54PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > > Years ago, I knew the name of the routines one could use to have some > > stdin history and be able to edit it, like you can do in XTerm or > > gnuplot or > > > > I can't

Re: Generic Linux / clib question

2024-02-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Van Snyder wrote: > Years ago, I knew the name of the routines one could use to have some stdin > history and be able to edit it, like you can do in XTerm or gnuplot or Sounds like readline: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Readline https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/readline An

Re: Generic Linux / clib question

2024-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 02:30:54PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > Years ago, I knew the name of the routines one could use to have some > stdin history and be able to edit it, like you can do in XTerm or > gnuplot or > > I can't remember them now, or find them. I think you're talking about the

Generic Linux / clib question

2024-02-09 Thread Van Snyder
Years ago, I knew the name of the routines one could use to have some stdin history and be able to edit it, like you can do in XTerm or gnuplot or I can't remember them now, or find them. Does anybody know the names? Thanks, Van Snyder

Re: find question

2024-01-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 12:25:03AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > Except that from the man page, -delete implies -depth. Maybe that's a > GNUism; I don't know. Oh, maybe that's new? I'm not sure. Anyway, yeah, -delete is a GNUism. POSIX find doesn't have it at all. > That leaves the

Re: find question

2024-01-13 Thread Richard Hector
SIX documentation of a command to be superior to the GNU documentation of that same command, especially a GNU man page. GNU info pages are often better, but GNU man pages tend to be lacking. Understood, thanks. Though it might be less correct where GNUisms exist. That leaves the question: When us

Re: nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-01-12, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > I "only" have to find out what mechanism adds the lower, en2 default > route within a few minutes, once I delete it. I ran "radvdump", but > that only dumped the correct announcement my provider sends for the > net over the PPPoE connection. Hm. > > Thanks

Re: nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 07:35:14PM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: > meta l4proto udp log level info prefix "udp" accept Thanks for that, and thanks to Michael Kjörling, your replies really helped. I found log lines similar to: 2024-01-12T19:51:32.999346+01:00 pi kernel: [3401524.305759]

Re: nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-01-12, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > If I insert the following rule at the bottom, everything starts to > work: > > meta l4proto udp accept Add log to see what would be dropped: meta l4proto udp log level info prefix "udp" accept Provide "nft list ruleset" to better see what nft

Re: nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 05:26:57PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > My suggestion would be to insert a "udp log" rule. (Pretty sure you > only need "udp", not "meta l4proto udp".) Thanks, I will try that. Yes "meta l4proto udp" might be cargo cult configuration ;) > That will give you a

Re: nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 12 Jan 2024 16:19 +0100, from r...@h5.or.at (Ralph Aichinger): > If I insert the following rule at the bottom, everything starts to > work: > > meta l4proto udp accept > > but I don't know how to limit this over broad rule (so it does not > forward UDP to the internal network on en0, which

Re: nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 03:52:46PM +, Tom Furie wrote: > other input/output rules that are interfering, but since you've abridged > your ruleset we have no way of knowing. Sorry, wanted to include the full rulest an forgot. I've still have left off the "table ip nat" and "table ip filter"

Re: nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 03:52:46PM +, Tom Furie wrote: > Where is the DNS server the dmz host is resolving against? In your dmz, > your internal network, on the firewall machine, outside? You may have > other input/output rules that are interfering, but since you've abridged > your ruleset we

Re: nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Tom Furie
Ralph Aichinger writes: > I am currently fighting with the following problem: I've got a system > that has 3 relevant interfaces: ppp0, en0 and en2, for external, > internal and dmz respectively. > > The dmz is IPv6 only, a homelab testbed more or less. > > I've got the follwing rules in

nftables firewall question: matching udp in ipv6

2024-01-12 Thread Ralph Aichinger
Hello! I am currently fighting with the following problem: I've got a system that has 3 relevant interfaces: ppp0, en0 and en2, for external, internal and dmz respectively. The dmz is IPv6 only, a homelab testbed more or less. I've got the follwing rules in /etc/nftables.conf for ipv6 (i am

Re: find question

2023-12-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 10:56:52PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > find $dir -mtime +7 -delete "$dir" should be quoted. > Will that fail to delete higher directories, because the deletion of files > updated the mtime? > > Or does it get all the mtimes first, and use those? It doesn't delete

find question

2023-12-29 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all, When using: find $dir -mtime +7 -delete Will that fail to delete higher directories, because the deletion of files updated the mtime? Or does it get all the mtimes first, and use those? And how precise are those times? If I'm running a cron job that deletes 7-day-old directories

Re: Question de Noël

2023-12-28 Thread Sébastien Dinot
Bonjour à tous, didier gaumet a écrit : > Donc globalement pas de dysfonctionnement avec Wayland si on emploie > un bureau vraiment prévu pour (Gnome, peut-être KDE de nos jours (je > connais mal)). L'expérience m'a malheureusement montré le contraire. J'ai acheté en juin 2023 un mini PC mis sur

Re: Question de Noël (mais quelle année?)

2023-12-26 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, > > tout compte fait comparable à la compression protocolaire de type > > freeNX (comme X2go quoi). j'ai fais qq tentatives à l'époque et > > ce que j'ai vu était assez loin de pouvoir valider l'affirmation. > > C'est possible en utilisant Waypipe [1], disponible dans Debian 12. >

Re: Question de Noël (mais quelle année?)

2023-12-26 Thread Marc Chantreux
Salut, > > * Il y a enfin un compositor qui m'attire: > > https://github.com/riverwm/river > > Merci pour le lien. Est-ce que tu as évalué dwl qui est le remplaçant de > dwm ? > > https://codeberg.org/dwl/dwl Nope: j'attend maintenant qu'un utilisateur me dise que wayland est isofonctionnel

Re: Question de Noël (mais quelle année?)

2023-12-26 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le 2023-12-26 10:43, Marc Chantreux a écrit : * adieu remote display. visiblement c'est un WONTFIX de la communauté wayland qui dit en gros: utilise un truc qui render et compresse des images sur le réseau (VNC) en m'expliquant que c'est tout compte fait comparable à la

Re: Question de Noël (mais quelle année?)

2023-12-26 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 26 décembre 2023 Marc Chantreux a écrit : > * à l'époque, rien dans le monde wayland ne ressemblait à dwm. > > Ce Noël-ci: > > * Il y a enfin un compositor qui m'attire: > https://github.com/riverwm/river Merci pour le lien. Est-ce que tu as évalué dwl qui est le remplaçant de dwm ?

Question de Noël (mais quelle année?)

2023-12-26 Thread Marc Chantreux
salut à tous, je suis passé sous wayland accidentellement lors d'une mise à jour du passage à bulleye (à l'époque j'étais encore sous gnome3) et déjà à l'époque, c'était stable. mais !!! je ne pouvais plus partager mon écran pendant les confs (jitsi, BBB, …). quand j'ai compris que j'étais sous

Re: Resolu: Question de Noël

2023-12-26 Thread didier gaumet
), il n'y aura aucune conséquence fâcheuse: le bureau en question continuera à utiliser Xorg vu qu'il est incompatible avec Wayland (au moins pour le moment car certains de ces bureaux (Xfce et Cinnamon, pour les autres je ne sais pas) entreprennent des travaux de mise en compatibilité avec

Resolu: Question de Noël

2023-12-25 Thread Informatique BILLARD
D writes: Bonjour à toutes et tous, en ce jour de Noêl je lis quelques pages sur Wayland le remplaçant de X11. Et la une question émerge, peut-on sans trop de risque de dysfonctionnement installer wayland sous debian 12 . Merci François-Marie

Re: Question de Noël

2023-12-25 Thread Lamourec Alain
Bonjour Tout dépend de ton environnement de bureau : gnome -> oui kde -> oui xfce -> non Informatique BILLARD writes: Bonjour à toutes et tous, en ce jour de Noêl je lis quelques pages sur Wayland le remplaçant de X11. Et la une question émerge, peut-on sans trop de

Re: Question de Noël

2023-12-25 Thread didier gaumet
Le 25/12/2023 à 10:52, Informatique BILLARD a écrit : Bonjour à toutes et tous, en ce jour de Noêl je lis quelques pages sur Wayland le remplaçant de X11. Et la une question émerge, peut-on sans trop de risque de dysfonctionnement installer wayland sous debian 12 . Bonjour, Quand tu

Question de Noël

2023-12-25 Thread Informatique BILLARD
Bonjour à toutes et tous, en ce jour de Noêl je lis quelques pages sur Wayland le remplaçant de X11. Et la une question émerge, peut-on sans trop de risque de dysfonctionnement installer wayland sous debian 12 . Merci François-Marie

Question about CNC

2023-12-14 Thread Eric Risch
Hi, Does your company need machining details? As a company with many years of experience on the market, we are able to provide competitive terms of cooperation, timely execution of orders, as well as details and components with high geometric accuracy and strength properties. I can also offer

ntpsec as servr question

2023-12-08 Thread gene heskett
Actually I did find it, was not a journalctl command but tcpdump. So call in the St Bernards. Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect

RE: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-06 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, >> $ cat /etc/network/interfaces [...] >> # The primary network interface >> allow-hotplug ens32 >> iface ens32 inet static > Depending on what services your computer runs, you may wish to change > "allow-hotplug ens32" to "auto ens32". Thanks that one got by me when I created a new

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-05 Thread Tom Dial
On 12/4/23 02:43, gene heskett wrote: So the next question is, is ntpsec serving my time, or utc. This hdware clock is supposedly set to UTC, but what is ntpsec serving? It s/b serving UTC IMO. But I'm in the dark here, haven't had to fool with this in the last 24 years. I'm pretty sure

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-04 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > I've also setup ntpsec as a server on this machine, and have the > printers chrony synching to this machine but the chrony on the printer > is stuck in PST, exactly 4 hours behind this machine regardless of the > setting in /etc/timezone. Chrony only does UTC. chronyc

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 09:30:14AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > It's serving *the* time :-) Well put :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
York zone, both seem to work correctly here. "The printer" is probably not 4 hours behind anything. Presumably it's just some part of the printer's software which chooses to use PST when *displaying* time information. > So the next question is, is ntpsec serving my time, or utc. It's serving *the* time :-) Stefan

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/12/2023 11:38, John Hasler wrote: Max Nikulin wrote: From my point of view, it should be possible to put a file with mapping of mac addresses to desired IPs and names to his dd-wrt router. I expect that dnsmasq is running or can be installed there. Dnsmasq as a DHCP server on the router

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-04 Thread gene heskett
ca/NewYork zone, both seem to work correctly here. So the next question is, is ntpsec serving my time, or utc. This hdware clock is supposedly set to UTC, but what is ntpsec serving? It s/b serving UTC IMO. But I'm in the dark here, haven't had to fool with this in the last 24 years. The cur

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-03 Thread John Hasler
Max Nikulin wrote: > From my point of view, it should be possible to put a file with > mapping of mac addresses to desired IPs and names to his dd-wrt > router. I expect that dnsmasq is running or can be installed > there. Dnsmasq as a DHCP server on the router should be better than > maintaining

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/12/2023 23:39, John Hasler wrote: Max Nikulin wrote: As to a GPS receiver, it should be doable and 169.254.x.y addresses will not be an issue any more. Be careful with cables when connecting it however: https://www.wired.com/2012/02/neutrinos-faulty-cable/ CNC machines don't need

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-02 Thread John Hasler
Max Nikulin wrote: > As to a GPS receiver, it should be doable and 169.254.x.y addresses > will not be an issue any more. Be careful with cables when connecting > it however: https://www.wired.com/2012/02/neutrinos-faulty-cable/ CNC machines don't need accurate time. They need precise internal

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-02 Thread mick.crane
On 2023-11-30 19:06, gene heskett wrote: On 11/30/23 09:14, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: I want to put it at 192.168.71.100/24. How do I do that in /etc/dhcpcd.conf? You don't. That file tells the client how to get an ip (among other things) from the server. The default configuration

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/12/2023 05:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: In either case, the static-ness or dynamic-ness of the address is much less important than the fact that the address*works*. You are able to communicate with the printer, using your network. This means the printer should be able to communicate*back*,

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-02 Thread gene heskett
On 12/1/23 16:22, gene heskett wrote: On 12/1/23 13:27, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:30:35AM +, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:24:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Gene, Please do us *all* a favour to try and help you. Write us out a list of

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/12/2023 02:24, gene heskett wrote: On 12/1/23 10:27, Max Nikulin wrote: so I have to repeat it. You *do* *not* have NetworkManager installed hence it can not overwrite files. What particular *evidences* do you have that namely NetworkManager overwrites /etc/network/interfaces? I am

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Like I said, boring. Not boring at all. I assume that you also have a desktop or laptop on that network? If I was running it I would *definitely* be using DHCP. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 23:21:05 +0700 Max Nikulin wrote: > As to a GPS receiver, it should be doable and 169.254.x.y addresses > will not be an issue any more. Be careful with cables when connecting > it however: https://www.wired.com/2012/02/neutrinos-faulty-cable/ And there is plenty of expertise

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 04:57:25PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > root@mkspi:/etc# ls -ld /etc/network/interfaces > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 106 Jul 24 19:10 /etc/network/interfaces OK. Now we have something to work with, at least. > date > Tue 03 Jan 2023 06:44:56 AM PST > The clock is

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 12/1/23 14:42, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 02:24:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: root@mkspi:/etc# nmcli -bash: nmcli: command not found I do not know the mechanism by which my addition and deletions were done during boot, I had added the correct data to put eth0 at

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 12/1/23 13:27, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:30:35AM +, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:24:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Gene, Please do us *all* a favour to try and help you. Write us out a list of all your machines - and if a printer

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 11:21:05PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 30/11/2023 23:12, Andy Smith wrote: > > Unless you have a dedicated time source (e.g. GPS receiver, atomic > > decay source, …) > > A nitpick. I am puzzled by the word "decay" in this context. Electron > transition between

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 02:24:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > root@mkspi:/etc# nmcli > > > -bash: nmcli: command not found > I do not know the mechanism by which my addition and deletions were done > during boot, I had added the correct data to put eth0 at 192.168.71.100 in > /e/n/i, and

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > Oh, oh... my first "Internet" (not in the sense of IP, obviously!) > connection was via UUCP. Likewise. -- John Hasler ihnp4!stolaf!bungia!foundln!john j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 12/1/23 10:27, Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/12/2023 17:42, gene heskett wrote: On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/12/2023 10:24, gene heskett wrote: Then, please, explain clearly what is "networkmangler", what is "/e/n/i", and what particular evidences you have that namely

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 04:55:01PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2023-12-01, John Hasler wrote: > > > > BTW my network experience goes back to bang paths. I'm currently using > > both hosts files and DHCP. > > In addition to legacy use, in 2021 new and innovative UUCP uses are > growing [...] Oh,

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 12/1/23 08:42, Dan Purgert wrote: On Dec 01, 2023, gene heskett wrote: [lotsa snipping ... ] You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which looks as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I want a pool of

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 12/1/23 08:25, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:20:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which looks as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I want a

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:30:35AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:24:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Gene, Please do us *all* a favour to try and help you. Write us out a list of all your machines - and if a printer has an embedded SBC, it's a machine in

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Curt
On 2023-12-01, John Hasler wrote: > > BTW my network experience goes back to bang paths. I'm currently using > both hosts files and DHCP. In addition to legacy use, in 2021 new and innovative UUCP uses are growing, especially for telecommunications in the HF band, for example, for

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/11/2023 23:12, Andy Smith wrote: Unless you have a dedicated time source (e.g. GPS receiver, atomic decay source, …) A nitpick. I am puzzled by the word "decay" in this context. Electron transition between energy states in atomic clocks is not decay. Nuclear decay is hardly related to

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/12/2023 17:42, gene heskett wrote: On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/12/2023 10:24, gene heskett wrote: Then, please, explain clearly what is "networkmangler", what is "/e/n/i", and what particular evidences you have that namely "networkmangler" overwrites "/e/n/i".

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 01, 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:20:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I > > installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which looks > > as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 01, 2023, gene heskett wrote: > [lotsa snipping ... ] > > You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I > installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which > looks as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I want a pool of 16 > addresses, say from

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:20:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I > installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which looks > as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I want a pool of 16 addresses, say from >

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 12/1/23 05:59, gene heskett wrote: On 12/1/23 05:41, Dan Purgert wrote: On Nov 30, 2023, gene heskett wrote: On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp.

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 01, 2023, gene heskett wrote: > On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote: > > [...] > > What I see in your messages are false claims, e.g. that DHCP addresses > > are unstable. DHCP servers *may* be configured to assign fixed addresses > > to particular clients. > > > My ISP does that, so my

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 01, 2023, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/1/23 05:41, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Nov 30, 2023, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Gene writes: > > > > > let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT > > > > > have dhcpcd installed. No

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 12/1/23 05:41, Dan Purgert wrote: On Nov 30, 2023, gene heskett wrote: On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp. I'm sure it's running dhclient. do

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/12/2023 10:24, gene heskett wrote: If you would bother to read what I posted, you would have seen that networkmangler claimed credit for that overwritten /e/n/i file. Then, please, explain clearly what is "networkmangler", what is "/e/n/i", and

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Dan Purgert
On Nov 30, 2023, gene heskett wrote: > On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > > > let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT > > > have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp. > > > > I'm sure it's running dhclient. do > > > > ls

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread gene heskett
On 11/30/23 23:04, John Hasler wrote: Klipper runs on OctoPi, a customized Linux distribution. As installed it is set up to use DHCP. You can either install a DHCP server on your network and it will just work, or you can figure out how to modify OctoPi to do things your way. You seem to be

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:24:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 11/30/23 21:37, Max Nikulin wrote: > > So to install "klipper is just a program" you run some scripts that > > overwrite /etc/network/interfaces and you blame NetworkManager and some > > other stuff instead. > If you would

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread David Wright
On Thu 30 Nov 2023 at 22:30:12 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > > > let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT > > > have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp. > > > > I'm sure it's running dhclient.

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/12/2023 10:24, gene heskett wrote: If you would bother to read what I posted, you would have seen that networkmangler claimed credit for that overwritten /e/n/i file. Then, please, explain clearly what is "networkmangler", what is "/e/n/i", and what particular evidences you have that

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > At risk of repeating myself forever, I don't need an unstable address, > I don't want whatever the heck is left in the pool. Hosts files do > that, dhcp doesn't. It just hands out the next number in the pool. > hosts files are static. A forveer lease. You're doing things the hard

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread John Hasler
Klipper runs on OctoPi, a customized Linux distribution. As installed it is set up to use DHCP. You can either install a DHCP server on your network and it will just work, or you can figure out how to modify OctoPi to do things your way. You seem to be banging your head against a wall trying to

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread gene heskett
On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp. I'm sure it's running dhclient. do ls /etc/dhcp and ps ax | grep dhc You don't need to do

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread gene heskett
On 11/30/23 21:37, Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/12/2023 01:44, gene heskett wrote: /e/n/i waa replaced, and nothing in an ip a or ip r was changed. [...] On 11/30/23 07:31, Max Nikulin wrote: May it be that klipper-related "optimizers" add some script? The classic NIH syndrome, advertized

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 08:33:47PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > This machine has a working ntp On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 09:05:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT have > dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp. OK,

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT > have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp. I'm sure it's running dhclient. do ls /etc/dhcp and ps ax | grep dhc You don't need to do anything on that machine. Just install a dhcp

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/12/2023 01:44, gene heskett wrote: /e/n/i waa replaced, and nothing in an ip a or ip r was changed. [...] On 11/30/23 07:31, Max Nikulin wrote: May it be that klipper-related "optimizers" add some script? klipper runs fine on several other bananapi-m5 here, w/o any special treatment

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread gene heskett
On 11/30/23 14:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 02:06:16PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: What I just found is /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, which if you read it, contains some examples at the bottom of it, such as: -- #alias { # interface "eth0"; # fixed-address

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread gene heskett
On 11/30/23 13:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 04:12:48PM +, Andy Smith wrote: Once you've got your networking sorted out and you are setting up an NTP server, your next issue will be that one NTP server isn't enough:

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread John Hasler
dhcpcd is a DHCP client with a remarkably poorly chosen name. DHCPCD(8)System Manager’s Manual DHCPCD(8) NAME dhcpcd — a DHCP client dhcpd is a DHCP server. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 14:13:22 -0500 Greg Wooledge wrote: > I thought your system had dhcpcd > installed and running. Why would it *also* have a configuration file > for dhclient? These are two completely different DHCP client > packages. I can't imagine why dhcpcd would read this file at all.

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 02:06:16PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > What I just found is /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, which if you read it, contains > some examples at the bottom of it, such as: > -- > #alias { > # interface "eth0"; > # fixed-address 192.5.5.213; > # option subnet-mask

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread gene heskett
On 11/30/23 09:14, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: I want to put it at 192.168.71.100/24. How do I do that in /etc/dhcpcd.conf? You don't. That file tells the client how to get an ip (among other things) from the server. The default configuration should work. You assign static ips on the

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread gene heskett
On 11/30/23 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On 30/11/2023 17:15, gene heskett wrote: I want to put it at 192.168.71.100/24. How do I do that in /etc/dhcpcd.conf? This is already in /etc/hosts like this: You're confusing the DHCP server and the DHCP client. People have told you that you must

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