Mariano, I'll reply in more detail re licensing and formatting when I
get home from vacation on March 1. Meanwhile I'm glad to see others
stepping up to help with editing. --Jean
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Frank et al,
Perhaps I yelled too soon! I have found an .odt file
"OpenOffice.org Style Guide for US Documentation". This looks to be
most of what I need. There is a sample Title Page included, and good
advice for other things. I can get started with it, unless there is
something else I
Bill,
I am doing some proof reading and formatting for Mariano Casanova's
tutorial.
What I need is a template for the final document. I did have an stw
file called "OOoUSDocument-template", but it seems I have lost it. I
cannot seem to find anything like it on the web site now. Is there
Frank,
I am doing some proof reading and formatting for Mariano Casanova's
tutorial.
What I need is a template for the final document. I did have an stw
file called "OOoUSDocument-template", but it seems I have lost it. I
cannot seem to find anything like it on the web site now. Is there
Mariano Casanova wrote:
Any Base experts that can help me finish part III?
Do you mean Base or Basic? You mentioned you'd need
some Basic experience.
Frank
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I have the .odt downloads. I will get to work.
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Any Base experts that can help me finish part III?
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From: William Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: dev@documentation.openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [documentation-dev] Mid level base tutorial
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:08 -0300
Frank,
I have not been active for a while (several years I guess),
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:08 -0300
Frank,
I have not been active for a while (several years I guess), but I
still read the documentation mail. Mariano has a project which I think
Frank,
I have not been active for a while (several years I guess), but I
still read the documentation mail. Mariano has a project which I think
I am fitted to help with. I have downloaded all three parts of the Base
tutorial. A cursory look at Part I shows me a number of places where
pro
Frank:
At this moment I am focusing on part III (and final) of the Mid Level Base
Tutorial. Content of Parts I and II is basically completed and now requires
prof reading and maybe layout design.
Part III covers the specifics of coding with base the features discussed in
parts I and II. It alr
Frank:
Thanks for your guidance. I have uploaded the three parts for the tutorial as
promised. Parts I and II could benefit from a kind reader that spots technical
errors or grammatical sins. I am still working on part II and, clearly, on part
III.
Part II requires that I include the reports f
Mariano Casanova wrote:
I will convert the Tutorial to PDF and upload the files to the site
you pointed. I will create a folder inside the Base folder with the
three parts of the tutorial instead of one long file given that they
are in different stages of completion at this moment.
I do not see
Frank:
I will convert the Tutorial to PDF and upload the files to the site you
pointed. I will create a folder inside the Base folder with the three parts of
the tutorial instead of one long file given that they are in different stages
of completion at this moment.
I do not see an "up-load" or
Mariano Casanova wrote:
Frank:
---Frank Peters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
This has been a fun project and I have learned a lot. The goal
has been to enable non-initiated users to build fairly complex
databases with Base. I feel that we are very close to that
objective. Any help in this last ph
Frank:
---Frank Peters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> This has been a fun project and I have learned a lot. The goal has
>> been to enable non-initiated users to build fairly complex databases
>> with Base. I feel that we are very close to that objective. Any help
>> in this last phase is deeply a
Mariano,
I am proud to announce the completion of 3/4 of the Base tutorial
that advances to a medium level of complexity. Part I is being
polished and part II is basically locked.
That's great news. To be honest, I was fighting with Base myself
lately and I cannot wait to have a look at the tu
I am proud to announce the completion of 3/4 of the Base tutorial that advances
to a medium level of complexity. Part I is being polished and part II is
basically locked.
Part III, that concerns itself with the production of forms that use functions
and some OObasic and reports that dump to Cal
Mariano Casanova wrote:
Just a short note to let you know that the work on the mid level Base
tutorial is advancing, even if we are under the radar sometimes.
There is a lot of information to digest, process, select and organize
in educational terms. Drew Jensen has been invaluable help.
Than
Hi Frank,
Just a short note to let you know that the work on the mid level Base tutorial
is advancing, even if we are under the radar sometimes.
There is a lot of information to digest, process, select and organize in
educational terms. Drew Jensen has been invaluable help.
Mariano
--
Mariano Casanova wrote:
Hi Drew, nice to hear from you.
I am very excited about ending this job and being able to coordinate with you.
Please let me know if you still have the forms and reports for the example or
if you need them again. I think that they pretty much help delineated the end
re
Hi Drew, nice to hear from you.
I am very excited about ending this job and being able to coordinate with you.
Please let me know if you still have the forms and reports for the example or
if you need them again. I think that they pretty much help delineated the end
result desired.
I will be w
Mariano Casanova wrote:
Hello Frank,
I have not received response from Drew, either to my open letter on Jan 9th nor
to mail sent to a personal account. Do you know if he is still participating or
maybe on vacation? At this moment the tutorial aims to explain how to actually
implement with BA
Hello Frank,
I have not received response from Drew, either to my open letter on Jan 9th nor
to mail sent to a personal account. Do you know if he is still participating or
maybe on vacation? At this moment the tutorial aims to explain how to actually
implement with BASE the options explored on
Hi Drew!
I am happy to see that you are ready to continue with this project. We
certainly didn't make it for the Nov. 15 date. Well, we do what we can.
The last part of the tutorial has to do with explaining how to code the design
that was developed in the previous parts of the tutorial. I am p
Mariano Casanova wrote:
Hi Drew:
Could you please comment on this text? Particularly if something is wrong or
incomplete.
Thanks!
Mariano
On table attributes of not null, unique and key
Base allows you to specify certain attributes for the columns in your tables.
In this tutorial we will co
Hi Drew:
Could you please comment on this text? Particularly if something is wrong or
incomplete.
Thanks!
Mariano
On table attributes of not null, unique and key
Base allows you to specify certain attributes for the columns in your tables.
In this tutorial we will consider the following optio
Drew:
I received the UML design. First, I am not sure if the Account and
TransactionType tables complement or replace my more modest Payment table. I
have the feeling that they replace it, but it remains in the design. Let me
know.
Also, I don't see the change in the Patient phone table, other
Hi Jean,
> Many authors want the protection and control of the PDL for their
> work; I have no argument with anyone who does. However, the PDL
> has some requirements that many of us think are a major nuisance
> for user documentation, especially items that are updated
> frequently to reflect chan
Mariano,
Regarding the tutorial you are writing, do you have a preference
on the license under which it will be released? (If you have
already stated a preference, I apologise for missing that note.)
The OOoAuthors group uses the Creative Commons Attribution
License for its user guides, but
Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
Joe Smith wrote:
Are there any plans to include a section comparing, in practical
terms, which database type to choose for some typical projects?
[...]
This is a critical choice that the current UI gives almost no help
with. It then falls to written documentation to
Jean,
Your correct. That would be a good place for this, kind of the natural
place I suppose.
OK, which outline is being updated then...I am so easily confused
sometimes...the file that you sent out or the wiki page?
Drew
On 9/27/07, Jean Hollis Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Smith wrot
Joe Smith wrote:
Are there any plans to include a section comparing, in practical terms,
which database type to choose for some typical projects?
[...]
This is a critical choice that the current UI gives almost no help with.
It then falls to written documentation to explain the concepts and
Ah, I was just having a little fun - at your expense...
Truth is those are good points, but this is Mariano's show and
therefor his call on something like that.
Not too mention, if it weren't for feature creep we would be having
this conversation by chiseling glyphs in a slab of stone and hurling
Andrew Jensen wrote:
LOL - Joe in the software development world we would call that feature creep!
Ouch. Well at least it was good for a chuckle.
LOL - Joe in the software development world we would call that feature creep!
On 9/26/07, Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > ...
> > Finally, there should be some mention of the fact that Base is not
> > actually married to the embedded HSQLdb engine at all. The fact
Andrew Jensen wrote:
...
Finally, there should be some mention of the fact that Base is not
actually married to the embedded HSQLdb engine at all. The fact that
it ships with this is more a matter of convenience, the design of the
module is such that additional database engines could be supporte
Not a problem at all.
There is a section on this in the HSQLdb users manual - a somewhat
outdated version of which can be found on-line at http://hsqldb.org.
The document included with the HSQLdb distribution package is actually
more current then the wed site, and I will email a copy the latest on
Frank has set up a OOo Docs Wiki where I intend to publish more polished
work. In the meantime I will accept Andrew's offer and will ask him for
details once I am ready to submit any material.
Thank you all for your help and interest in this work!
Andrew, I would like some help undewrstanding the
Thanks, Drew. I thought that's what you meant, so thanks for
confirming. Sounds ro me like your server is a good place for
storing images for the working drafts of this document, since you
and Mariano will be the main people working on it.
--Jean
Andrew Jensen wrote:
yes, my server dishes up
yes, my server dishes up lots stuff to folks on the the forum, the
wiki and as direct download via httpd addresses, the access I meant
was for write / edit privileges.
The other thing you are right about, and is a pleasure to see - is
that this is a case of maybe too many options and not enough..
Putting them on the OOoAuthors website is another possibility.
Whatever you guys choose, I think it should be somewhere that
other people (such as me) can get to the figures too. Docs&Files
& OOoAuthors both fulfill that request; an FTP server that allows
others (without accounts) to view the
If not, or maybe as an early alternative.
I could set aside a slice on my ftp server and five Mariano an access
account. Then link to these for the pages until the final files are
ready to be moved to the wiki.
On 9/25/07, Frank Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will be adding drafts here as the writing progresses.
I will also include links to the figures that I could need. I understand
that I must harbor them elsewhere.
You could upload them to the wiki, but that can be a bit cumbersome.
Does anyone know if we could use t
That's fine, Drew. Thanks. We will drop this feature for now and focus on
the other features. I will adjust the outline correspondingly.
Mariano
> Oh darn, that is too brief an answer to that question.
>
> The engine supports it, when used as an embedded engine in a Base file
> however it is not
Oh darn, that is too brief an answer to that question.
The engine supports it, when used as an embedded engine in a Base file
however it is not directly supported. Using code to wrap around your
database solution one can take advantage of it again, but given this
it most likely would be more of an
Hi,
For the target reader you have in mind the best answer is no.
On 9/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I created a wiki page:
> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Tutorials/Base_(Mariano)
> >
> > Feel free to add content.
> >
> > Frank
>
> T
> I created a wiki page:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Tutorials/Base_(Mariano)
>
> Feel free to add content.
>
> Frank
Thanks Frank!
I will be adding drafts here as the writing progresses.
I will also include links to the figures that I could need. I underst
Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
I imagine that, as the writing progresses, it should be posted here. I
also imagine that any questions I could have should also be posted here.
If this is not the proper channel, please re-direct me.
Please don't post drafts or diagrams to the list; attachments are a
p
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Joe Smith wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The tutorial is aimed to persons that have little or no knowledge in
> > database design and that need to develop a functional application of
> > mid-level complexity. This application would stand alone in their
> > computers (as
Hi Jean, Marano, et al
Mariano is the author I am just a helper, so it is his decision on how
he want to work, IssueZilla or wiki or both.
Drew
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The tutorial is aimed to persons that have little or no knowledge in
database design and that need to develop a functional application of
mid-level complexity. This application would stand alone in their
computers (as opposed to becoming a front end for a MySQL applicatio
Mariano wrote:
I imagine that, as the writing progresses, it should be posted here. I
also imagine that any questions I could have should also be posted here.
If this is not the proper channel, please re-direct me.
Please don't post drafts or diagrams to the list; attachments are
a problem fo
Hi Drew,
The tutorial is aimed to persons that have little or no knowledge in
database design and that need to develop a functional application of
mid-level complexity. This application would stand alone in their
computers (as opposed to becoming a front end for a MySQL application
harbored in som
Hello Mariano,
I received your direct email with the first draft outline for the tutorial
and have been waiting to see your post in the mailing list to respond.
First - it is a very clean concise outline, IMO and I for one would be drawn
to read it.
However my first question would be - Who is th
I would first like to thank Frank Petters, Scott Carr, Jean Weber and
Andrew Jensen for a warm reception and guiding me to this mailing list.
My name is Mariano Casanova and I would like to help in the development of
a mid-level tutorial for Base. I have drafted a proposal centered on the
problem
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