Re: Is Open Office Going Away?

2019-09-21 Thread Marcus
Am 18.09.19 um 17:16 schrieb Mike Kuldayev: I'm working in an online school and our teachers frequently encourage their students to download Open Office for free from your homepage. Recently, I've got wind that Open Office might be going away and/or students won't be able to

Re: Is Open Office Going Away?

2019-09-21 Thread Marcus
students to download Open Office for free from your homepage. Recently, I've got wind that Open Office might be going away Not, as far as I am concerned. Voting on next 4.1.7 version release just completed ;-) and/or students won't be able to download it for free in the near future. A

Re: Is Open Office Going Away?

2019-09-21 Thread Jose R R
wind that Open Office might be going away > Not, as far as I am concerned. Voting on next 4.1.7 version release just completed ;-) > and/or students won't be able to download it for free in the near future. > Also, absolutely false. As a matter of fact AOO seems going on so strong that

Is Open Office Going Away?

2019-09-21 Thread Mike Kuldayev
Hello, I'm working in an online school and our teachers frequently encourage their students to download Open Office for free from your homepage. Recently, I've got wind that Open Office might be going away and/or students won't be able to download it for free in the near future. So

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-03-21 Thread Kay Schenk
, Kay Schenk wrote: I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. 2019. I am one of the moderators for the AOO group. Here is information I just received. I know MANY are disappointed by this decision, and we need to discuss what to do with the current AOO information. I just

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-03-21 Thread Matthias Seidel
>>> Hi Kay, Hi Keith, >>>> >>>> Am 05.02.19 um 00:58 schrieb Kay Schenk: >>>>> On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: >>>>>> On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>>>>>> I'm assuming most of you know that Googl

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-03-18 Thread Kay Schenk
4/19 12:59 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> Hi Kay, Hi Keith, > >> > >> Am 05.02.19 um 00:58 schrieb Kay Schenk: > >>> On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > >>>> On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >>>>> I'm assuming most o

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-03-14 Thread Matthias Seidel
nk wrote: >>>>> I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. >>>>> 2019. >>>>> I am one of the moderators for the AOO group. Here is information I >>>>> just >>>>> received. I know MANY are disappointed

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-28 Thread Peter Kovacs
he primary ownership for our Apache > OpenOffice brand account from Ariel. > With Google+ going away, we should now get some content in our YouTube > channel (271 subscriber). > > @Kay: I would like to add you as administrator... > > Regards, > >    Matthias > >> O

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-28 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi all, Am 26.02.19 um 06:45 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > Does it make sense to contact google to try to regain control over the > account? I am happy to say, that I got the primary ownership for our Apache OpenOffice brand account from Ariel. With Google+ going away, we should now get some c

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On 2/24/19 12:59 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Kay, Hi Keith, Am 05.02.19 um 00:58 schrieb Kay Schenk: On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. 2019. I am one of the moderator

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-25 Thread Peter Kovacs
tthias Seidel wrote: >>>> Hi Kay, Hi Keith, >>>> >>>> Am 05.02.19 um 00:58 schrieb Kay Schenk: >>>>> On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: >>>>>> On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>>>>>> I'

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-24 Thread Kay Schenk
t; On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > >>>> On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >>>>> I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. > >>>>> 2019. > >>>>> I am one of the moderators for the

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-24 Thread Matthias Seidel
ote: >>>>> I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. >>>>> 2019. >>>>> I am one of the moderators for the AOO group. Here is information I >>>>> just >>>>> received. I know MANY are dis

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On 2/24/19 12:59 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Kay, Hi Keith, Am 05.02.19 um 00:58 schrieb Kay Schenk: On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. 2019. I am one of the moderator

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-24 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Kay, Hi Keith, Am 05.02.19 um 00:58 schrieb Kay Schenk: > > On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. 2019. >>> I am one of the moderators for t

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-06 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 2/4/2019 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. 2019. >>> I am one of the moderators for the AOO group. Here is

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On 2/2/19 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. 2019. I am one of the moderators for the AOO group. Here is information I just received. I know MANY are disappointed by this decision, a

Re: Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-02 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 2/2/2019 1:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. 2019. > I am one of the moderators for the AOO group. Here is information I just > received. I know MANY are disappointed by this decision, and we need to > discuss wh

Google+ going away on April 2, 2019

2019-02-02 Thread Kay Schenk
I'm assuming most of you know that Google+ is going away April 2. 2019. I am one of the moderators for the AOO group. Here is information I just received. I know MANY are disappointed by this decision, and we need to discuss what to do with the current AOO inform

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-18 Thread Peter Kovacs
After some thinking, I think this is not easy to answer without more clarification. So I have updated the List I have once started (Now called Points of Interest). Added the going Agile topic, and will clarify the Point. So no one has to read this discussion in order to get the picture

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-17 Thread Peter kovacs
How long should a reasonable demonstration period be? And what are the success criterias that has to be fulfilled? Am 17. Februar 2018 16:08:10 MEZ schrieb Patricia Shanahan : > > >On 2/17/2018 1:04 AM, Peter kovacs wrote: >> >> >> >>> +1 A practical demo of what the proposals mean in practic

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/17/2018 1:04 AM, Peter kovacs wrote: +1 A practical demo of what the proposals mean in practice will be far more useful than abstract discussion. How about your Idea to check all Arrays and replace them with containers? We would create a master ticket, Create sub tickets for each cas

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-17 Thread Peter kovacs
>+1 A practical demo of what the proposals mean in practice will be far >more useful than abstract discussion. > How about your Idea to check all Arrays and replace them with containers? We would create a master ticket, Create sub tickets for each case. Describing what we have to do. Then dist

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-16 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/13/2018 2:22 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Marcus wrote: @all: What do you think is the first topic we should start with? I think the only reasonable way forward is that Peter chooses one of the many available tasks (digital signatures? Java 9 support? MSVC update? .docx export? you name

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus wrote: @all: What do you think is the first topic we should start with? I think the only reasonable way forward is that Peter chooses one of the many available tasks (digital signatures? Java 9 support? MSVC update? .docx export? you name it) and experiments the workflow limited to it.

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-13 Thread Marcus
Am 12.02.2018 um 22:15 schrieb Peter Kovacs: On 10.02.2018 13:26, Marcus wrote: Therefore let me summarize: - Use BZ for the development work (e.g, fixing a specific bug). - Work in Jira for the project tasks and technical coordination (e.g.,   Windows signing). - Use Confluence for project w

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Thanks Peter for driving this topic. I don’t think we all agree, but we can (a) try to advance our project organization and (b) acknowledge how we are using the many tools we already use. > On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > On 10.02.2018 13:26, Marcus wrote: > >> >>

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-12 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 10.02.2018 13:26, Marcus wrote: Therefore let me summarize: - Use BZ for the development work (e.g, fixing a specific bug). - Work in Jira for the project tasks and technical coordination (e.g.,   Windows signing). - Use Confluence for project work and as documentation base. - Take the Agil

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-11 Thread Peter Kovacs
How can I build only core package? I am only aware to build everything, or a certain range of modules, or I can build explicit one module. I do not want to take away the ability to build all in one step. But I think if you are only rebuilding core it saves you a lot of time. And if you can check

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
> On Feb 9, 2018, at 20:05, Peter Kovacs wrote: > >> On 09.02.2018 01:19, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >> On February 8, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: >> >> # Devide the Project into different selfcontained parts. so we have >> smaller chunks to swallow. (Maybe we should consider breaking

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-10 Thread Marcus
Am 10.02.2018 um 07:20 schrieb Peter Kovacs: On 09.02.2018 23:08, Marcus wrote: Am 08.02.2018 um 00:32 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Peter Kovacs wrote: I would like to propose that we apply Agile development methods as much as we can. it depends what you mean with agile. IMHO forget Scrum as we

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-10 Thread Marcus
Am 10.02.2018 um 06:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: Migration would be done by infra. They wrote up everything need to know: https://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheBugzillaToJiraMigration I find it cumbersome that all our users should then use Jira to open a bug report. What about to keep Bugzilla

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-10 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
wouldn't bring us any nearer to closed > issues. BTW, start new? Then you would trash all old issues which isn't a > good thing. Move them over to Jira? Great, who is the volunteer to do the > migration? ;-) > > > +1 to that. We have Bugzilla bug numbers in SVN and even in the code, and links to Bugzilla URLs in places too, who is going to find and replace all of those? I also find Bugzilla much faster to work with and lighter on the network (not everyone is in a 1st world country). Damjan

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Openness can be a real problem. I have mainly done security fixes that had to stay on the private lists until released and disclosed. Patricia > On Feb 10, 2018, at 06:20, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > >> On 09.02.2018 23:08, Marcus wrote: >>> Am 08.02.2018 um 00:32 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: >>> Pe

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-09 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 09.02.2018 23:08, Marcus wrote: Am 08.02.2018 um 00:32 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Peter Kovacs wrote: I would like to propose that we apply Agile development methods as much as we can. it depends what you mean with agile. IMHO forget Scrum as we are not the community to get a commitment for

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-09 Thread Peter Kovacs
Migration would be done by infra. They wrote up everything need to know: https://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheBugzillaToJiraMigration Again, it is not about the tool it is about the workflow. I would like to have a Kanbanboard, to get transparency what is worked on, who can I approach if I h

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-09 Thread Marcus
Am 08.02.2018 um 00:32 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Peter Kovacs wrote: I would like to propose that we apply Agile development methods as much as we can. it depends what you mean with agile. IMHO forget Scrum as we are not the community to get a commitment for this. Kanban would be nice. At th

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-09 Thread Marcus
Am 09.02.2018 um 01:19 schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On February 8, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: # Start spreading knowledge in our development team. 1) I would like to propose a Product Backlog / OIL (OpenIssue) List to priorize Issues we need to work on. The most Valueable item come

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-09 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 09.02.2018 01:19, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On February 8, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: # Devide the Project into different selfcontained parts. so we have smaller chunks to swallow. (Maybe we should consider breaking the compile Process into individual compile steps by package just

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On February 8, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: >Thank you these are good points. >On 08.02.2018 00:32, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> Peter Kovacs wrote: >>> I would like to propose that we apply Agile development methods as >>> much as we can. >> >> Well, "as much as we can" is the key here. O

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-07 Thread DurgaPrasad Potnuru
+1 I am in favor, and like the way duscussions are heading. Willing to contribute in setting up project in Jira if thus goes through On Feb 8, 2018 11:21, "Peter Kovacs" wrote: > Thank you these are good points. > > On 08.02.2018 00:32, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> Peter Kovacs wrote: >> >>> I wo

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
Thank you these are good points. On 08.02.2018 00:32, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Peter Kovacs wrote: I would like to propose that we apply Agile development methods as much as we can. Well, "as much as we can" is the key here. OpenOffice is as agile as an elephant. A lot of us use Agile in their

Re: [proposal] going Agile

2018-02-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Peter Kovacs wrote: I would like to propose that we apply Agile development methods as much as we can. Well, "as much as we can" is the key here. OpenOffice is as agile as an elephant. A lot of us use Agile in their daily work activities, and maybe they even like it, but it's a totally differ

[proposal] going Agile

2018-02-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello all,  - I would like to propose that we apply Agile development methods as much as we can. For start we need clarity what task are the most pressing ones.  1) I would like to propose a Product Backlog / OIL (OpenIssue) List to priorize Issues we need to work on. The most Valueable item

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-04 Thread Carl Marcum
nd I'll dig it up from the website. https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/devtools/ I don't know how going for the "dirty" solution will affect scripts. It will surely result in misaligned trees in dist/ and SourceForge but this is not particularly problemati

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Marcus
ask and I'll dig it up from the website. https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/devtools/ I don't know how going for the "dirty" solution will affect scripts. It will surely result in misaligned trees in dist/ and SourceForge but this is not particularly pro

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Marcus
ce so they don't have to be redone for each maintenance release of AOO or end up with multiples in each AOO release? Multiple? You will want to look up the distinction between dist and archive. If you don't find the relevant documentation, just ask and I'll dig it up from the webs

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Carl Marcum
On 04/03/2016 04:25 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Carl Marcum wrote: I hope you don't take my suggestion for disagreement. Of course not. Let's simply find together the right way to publish this source package in the tree. As I wrote, I am OK with adding devtools/ provided this doesn't break th

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Carl Marcum wrote: I hope you don't take my suggestion for disagreement. Of course not. Let's simply find together the right way to publish this source package in the tree. As I wrote, I am OK with adding devtools/ provided this doesn't break the JS generation for download page. I see no oth

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Carl Marcum
e/openoffice so they don't have to be redone for each maintenance release of AOO or end up with multiples in each AOO release? Multiple? You will want to look up the distinction between dist and archive. If you don't find the relevant documentation, just ask and I'll dig it up

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
e for each maintenance release of AOO or end up with multiples in each AOO release? Multiple? You will want to look up the distinction between dist and archive. If you don't find the relevant documentation, just ask and I'll dig it up from the website. https://dist.apache.org/rep

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Carl Marcum
On 04/03/2016 11:49 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 03/04/2016 Marcus wrote: Am 04/03/2016 03:34 PM, schrieb Carl Marcum: Are the artifacts and signatures copied to new names or recreated and signed? They are moved, using svn move. If it's for the NetBeans plugin you can look at the name stru

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Carl Marcum
On 04/03/2016 11:41 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: The RC artifact that is approved as a release is the artifact that is released. If you check the last RC for AOO 4.1.2 at you'll see that the folder has the RC name, tied to the source tree.

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 03/04/2016 Marcus wrote: Am 04/03/2016 03:34 PM, schrieb Carl Marcum: Are the artifacts and signatures copied to new names or recreated and signed? They are moved, using svn move. If it's for the NetBeans plugin you can look at the name structure above for the AOO files. Maybe it's possib

RE: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
identified by the release those files are a candidate for, not by the RC. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 06:35 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: procedure for going from RC to releas

Re: procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Marcus
Am 04/03/2016 03:34 PM, schrieb Carl Marcum: I'm looking for the procedure for how the approved RC files are released. are you looking for the general release process for AOO? Or for the Netbeans plugin you are creating? Are the artifacts and signatures copied to new names or recreated and

procedure for going from RC to release

2016-04-03 Thread Carl Marcum
I'm looking for the procedure for how the approved RC files are released. Are the artifacts and signatures copied to new names or recreated and signed? I know where they go but not how the names are changed. Thanks, Carl - T

Re: Going

2016-01-29 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
is > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:53 >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Going >> >> >>> On 29 Jan 16, at 12:31, Kay Schenk wrote: >>

RE: Going

2016-01-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Going > > > > On 29 Jan 16, at 12:31, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > > I'm happy to see that you're still remaining on the "dev" list. ☺ > > I might that way help out or at least gripe entertainingly and &

Re: Going

2016-01-29 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 29 Jan 16, at 12:31, Kay Schenk wrote: > > I'm happy to see that you're still remaining on the "dev" list. ☺ I might that way help out or at least gripe entertainingly and occasionally voice the desire that users of AOO and LO be better served by not having to figure out which project to

Re: Going

2016-01-29 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > Hi All, > I'm stepping down from the AOO PMC after many years. If one includes the > decade plus I dedicated to Openoffice.org as the community manager and > chair of the community council, as well as lead and co-lead of many > projects

Re: Going

2016-01-29 Thread Marcus
Hi Louis, thats very sad to read. But thats life. Things are coming and they are going and you have to juggle them on your schedule plan. Thanks a lot for your work and dedication in all these many years. I hope you will return someday. :-) Marcus Am 01/29/2016 12:39 AM, schrieb Louis

RE: Going

2016-01-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, January 28, 2016 16:39 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Going > > On 01/28/2016 06:39 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm stepping down from the AOO PMC after many years. If one includes > the decade plus I dedicated to Openoffice.org as

Re: Going

2016-01-28 Thread Carl Marcum
On 01/28/2016 06:39 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Hi All, I'm stepping down from the AOO PMC after many years. If one includes the decade plus I dedicated to Openoffice.org as the community manager and chair of the community council, as well as lead and co-lead of many projects, big and small,

Going

2016-01-28 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi All, I'm stepping down from the AOO PMC after many years. If one includes the decade plus I dedicated to Openoffice.org as the community manager and chair of the community council, as well as lead and co-lead of many projects, big and small, and the five years since on the PMC, it's been 16 y

Re: Facebook Fanpage going direction 10000 Fans

2013-11-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/4/13 4:12 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: >> Hi all >> >> The Apache OpenOffice Facebook Fanpage going direction 10 k Fans. We hav at >> the Moment 9981 Fans. Just for the Record >> > > We now have 10,0

Re: Facebook Fanpage going direction 10000 Fans

2013-11-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Hi all > > The Apache OpenOffice Facebook Fanpage going direction 10 k Fans. We hav at > the Moment 9981 Fans. Just for the Record > We now have 10,031 Facebook Fans.This is good for a Facebook page that only started in

Facebook Fanpage going direction 10000 Fans

2013-11-01 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi all The Apache OpenOffice Facebook Fanpage going direction 10 k Fans. We hav at the Moment 9981 Fans. Just for the Record Greetings Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
raid of this long US weekend, and hope we do not > have > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wait > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> unt

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
raid of this long US weekend, and hope we do not > have > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wait > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> until next week. > >

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread imacat
gt;>>>> to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wait >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> until next week. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>&

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
f volunteers (I play only a small part) >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> getting it all. Max spam page lifetime is about an hour; typical is >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> a few minutes. We may be humans fighting bots, but we're winning

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
s, better spam prevention, &c. /tj/ On 23 November 2012 09:00, C wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti < pesce...@apache.org wrote: Thanks Clayton, you probably know the inner details of our Mediawiki configuration better than most people here, so it is grea

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
uot;invitation only" fix to LocalSettings.php. This turns off the >>>>> faucet. >>>>> 2) SQL delete of all unused accounts (no contributions in any space). >>>>> This eliminates the spammers' backlog of new accounts, so we sysops >>

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
> don't have to block them one at a time. This will hit a lot of old >>>> accounts, too. Good; that's overdue. It is possible that a few >>>> legitimate accounts could be hit, but contributors normally go right in >>>> and fix something, and/or create their user pages,

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
on, you probably know the inner details of our Mediawiki configuration better than most people here, so it is great that you are going to coordinate with Jan to neutralize this attack. Jan will be leading the defense. I'll be hanging around more in the background trying to explain why thing

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
w the inner details of our Mediawiki configuration better than most people here, so it is great that you are going to coordinate with Jan to neutralize this attack. Jan will be leading the defense. I'll be hanging around more in the background trying to explain why things are wonky with

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
; > 4) Upgrades, extensions, better spam prevention, &c. > > > > /tj/ > > > > > > > > On 23 November 2012 09:00, C wrote: > > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti > > > >> wrote: > > >>> Th

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
es, extensions, better spam prevention, &c. > > /tj/ > > > > > On 23 November 2012 09:00, C wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti > >> wrote: > >>> Thanks Clayton, you probably know the inner details of our Media

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread TJ Frazier
, extensions, better spam prevention, &c. /tj/ On 23 November 2012 09:00, C wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Thanks Clayton, you probably know the inner details of our Mediawiki configuration better than most people here, so it is great that you are going to c

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread jan iversen
wrote: > > Thanks Clayton, you probably know the inner details of our Mediawiki > > configuration better than most people here, so it is great that you are > > going to coordinate with Jan to neutralize this attack. > > > Jan will be leading the defense. I'll be h

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-23 Thread C
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Thanks Clayton, you probably know the inner details of our Mediawiki > configuration better than most people here, so it is great that you are > going to coordinate with Jan to neutralize this attack. Jan will be leading th

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/11/2012 C wrote: TJ pointed me at the Wiki Spam problem. I can try to lend a hand. Thanks Clayton, you probably know the inner details of our Mediawiki configuration better than most people here, so it is great that you are going to coordinate with Jan to neutralize this attack

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-22 Thread C
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > Thank, Clayton. I was wondering if there might be a malicious anti-AOO > intent behind the spam, but from what you say it does not seem likely. It's definitely not anti-OOo vandalism. Just the usual blog/SEO spam. Clayton

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 20:25:02 +0100 C wrote: > > Purely out of interest, do any of the Wiki moderators see any general theme > > to the spam attacks? > > The accounts are autogenerated - there is no person sitting at a PC > somewhere creating accounts. The page content is generally random... >

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-22 Thread jan iversen
you determine if it's a real user or a bot? As well, > this doesn't deal with the fact that there are literally 100s of spam > accounts sitting there... validated as real accounts, waiting in the > wings to be used. > Well it is at least a simple solution, that buys time. >

Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
. How do you determine if it's a real user or a bot? As well, > this doesn't deal with the fact that there are literally 100s of spam > accounts sitting there... validated as real accounts, waiting in the > wings to be used. > > If this situation is left as is... the admin

Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-22 Thread C
This does add a lot of overhead for the admins though. How do you determine if it's a real user or a bot? As well, this doesn't deal with the fact that there are literally 100s of spam accounts sitting there... validated as real accounts, waiting in the wings to be used. If this situ

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 07/11/2012 Fan Zheng wrote: >> Suggestion: >> We should assign a specified person be responsible to broadcasting the >> status and the progress online, before the next CONF. > > I agree, but choose someone who is not a speaker and make su

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-08 Thread imacat
On 2012/11/08 07:37, Andrea Pescetti aid: > On 07/11/2012 Fan Zheng wrote: >> Suggestion: >> We should assign a specified person be responsible to broadcasting the >> status and the progress online, before the next CONF. > > I agree, but choose someone who is not a speaker and make sure he has > a

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-08 Thread Yue Helen
Hi Andrea, Although not there, read your slides online, it's terrific! A wonderful presentation, with great summary and vision. Helen 2012/11/8 Andrea Pescetti > Kay Schenk wrote: > >> Yes! No begrudging their busy-ness from me. I'm sure we'll hear lots on >> the weekend! >> > > It's really n

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 07/11/2012 Fan Zheng wrote: > Suggestion: > We should assign a specified person be responsible to broadcasting the > status and the progress online, before the next CONF. I agree, but choose someone who is not a speaker and make sure he has access to Roller (and has actually tried to use it) be

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Donald Harbison
@Andrea, OK, I updated FB and G+ and kicked off a tweet...will follow with more as you and the HH team post more updates. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Donald Harbison wrote: > Great stuff Andrea! > > I really like your Personal story. Very well done. > > We'll tweet and tie back to these posts

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Donald Harbison
Great stuff Andrea! I really like your Personal story. Very well done. We'll tweet and tie back to these posts from FB and G+. Keep it coming! ...your recommendations with respect to ACNA are most welcome. We will need to figure that out very quickly with CFP closing very soon. On Wed, Nov 7, 2

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Kay Schenk wrote: When you get this ON the blog, let us know so we can highlight it in the right hand panel. Blog post now live. It is the report of Day 1. I hope reporting about Day 2 and Day 3 will work more smoothly, and since I now have a working Roller account (thanks Marcus) I'll take c

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Kay Schenk
best for us. Regards, Andrea. Andrea, super! When you get this ON the blog, let us know so we can highlight it in the right hand panel. -- ---- MzK "You're not going to believe car are you?" -- Dave Harken (Kevin Spacey) "Horrible Bosses"

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Kay Schenk wrote: Yes! No begrudging their busy-ness from me. I'm sure we'll hear lots on the weekend! It's really nice to see that many people eager to know about ApacheCon! Thanks to Armin's account we now have a draft blog post covering day 1 at https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previe

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Fan Zheng wrote: > In general, they forgot the absent people these days :( > > Suggestion: > We should assign a specified person be responsible to broadcasting the > status and the progress online, before the next CONF. > 在 2012/11/7 4:52 PM,"Peter Junge" 写道: > > >

Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Fan Zheng
In general, they forgot the absent people these days :( Suggestion: We should assign a specified person be responsible to broadcasting the status and the progress online, before the next CONF. 在 2012/11/7 4:52 PM,"Peter Junge" 写道: > As this list is in general very silent since Sunday, I would gue

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