Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 released

[Carl Marcum]

Hello OpenOffice community.

We want to thank everyone who helped make this release happen.

Best regards,
Carl
(on behalf of the OpenOffice PMC)



27 February 2023 - The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce 
the release of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14.


Apache OpenOffice is a popular Open Source office document productivity 
suite available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.


Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 is a maintenance release incorporating bug 
fixes and other enhancements.


This release also includes the latest dictionaries.  All users of Apache 
OpenOffice 4.1.13 or earlier are advised to upgrade.


For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4114changes

Full version of this announcement:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4114announcement

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 Release Notes:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4114releasenotes

Download the source:
https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html

Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 from the original source only:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

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Re: [RESULT] PASSED Re: [VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.14-RC1 as GA

[Carl Marcum]

I'm working on the blog post draft and announce emails today.

On 2/26/23 6:03 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Marcus,

Yes, let's get together on Slack (as always) later today.

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 25.02.23 um 20:15 schrieb Marcus:

Am 25.02.23 um 15:52 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 25.02.23 um 11:07 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 02/25/2023 9:45 AM WET Matthias Seidel
 wrote:
   The SourceForge mirrors are now ready, we could release at any
time we want.

Remembering that Microsoft does not work on weekends, I would
prefer to
do it on Sunday evening. This way AOO 4.1.14 would be available in the
Microsoft Store early next week.

What do others think?

Sounds like a good plan.
It is a good way to start the week :)

Microsoft has changed the Store recently, so an installed AOO is
detected as "installed".

Hopefully it now detects the new release and let's user install the
update...

+1
I'll start with changing the download webpages on Sunday evening
(European time).

Marcus


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Re: Testing AOO on macOS

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo,

On 2/19/23 4:45 AM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Dear All,

for some reason, our Catalina-based macMini shared instance is giving
me problems when testing AOO.

Buttons do not seem to behave properly.

For example: once AOO opens, I cannot click on "Text document" to open
a new document. My clicks seem to be ignored.

The menus work: I can click File -> New and have a new document.

I believe that these problems are given by the remote control program
I am using. I would be grateful if anyone with a ``physical'' mac in
their hands -- or other users of our shared macMini as well -- could
confirm that the UI of the current RC is working as expected.

Thank you in advance and best regards,


Testing the 4.1.14 RC1 in a macOS Ventura VM seems fine using buttons in 
the Start Menu or toolbar buttons in the applications.


Best regards,
Carl

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Re: [VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.14-RC1 as GA

[Carl Marcum]

The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:

   [X] yes / +1

   [ ] no / -1

My vote is based on

   [X] binding (member of PMC)

   [X] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [CentOS 7 x86-64]

   [X] I have tested the binary RC on platform [CentOS 8 x86-64, macOS Ventura 
M2]


I built the sources and ran the BVT and FVT automated tests 3 times each.
No test failed all 3 times.

I verified the checksums and signature for the source archive and that they 
included LICENSE and NOTICE files.

I verified the checksums and signature for the binaries for Linux x86-64 rpm 
archive and MacOS dmg including the SDK's.

I installed the RPMS on CentOS 8 (freedesktop integration) and the dmg on macOS 
Ventura and tested both for common file open/edit/save workflows and tested a 
few macros.

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: AOO 4.1.14

[Carl Marcum]

I hope you get better soon!

On 2/7/23 9:09 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 07.02.23 um 14:52 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi All,

On 2/7/23 4:48 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is time for the next release.

I have created the Release Schedule [1] for AOO 4.1.14 now. Please join!

Regards,

  Matthias

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.14



I volunteered for QA and announcements.

Thanks!

After all the time avoiding it I am now Corona positive...

However, I may still be able to do basic work.

Regards,

    Matthias


Best regards,

Carl


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Re: Pull Request 164

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

On 2/7/23 5:46 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi all,

PR #164 [1] is a huge one.

It would be great if there was additional feedback...

Regards,

    Matthias

[1] https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/164


A good test for this is to open this test file [1] in a browser and 
copy/paste into calc.


You should get all 20,000 rows.

[1] https://home.apache.org/~cmarcum/test-files/2-row-html-table.html

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: AOO 4.1.14

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

On 2/7/23 4:48 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is time for the next release.

I have created the Release Schedule [1] for AOO 4.1.14 now. Please join!

Regards,

     Matthias

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.14



I volunteered for QA and announcements.

Best regards,

Carl


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Re: Nightly Builds

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias and All,

On 1/26/23 10:09 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi all,

I think we can all agree on a 4 week  (30 days) period for archiving the
binaries?


4 weeks max seems fine to me.

And if possible only build one if there was a commit.

For Linux I build my own anyway. I really need mac builds since I can't 
build on Silicon but that's for another topic.


Best regards,
Carl


Looking at:

https://nightlies.apache.org/openoffice/install/linux64/?C=M;O=D

we should also think about shortening the filenames. For example the Git
hash could be reduced to the first 10 digits.

Opinions?

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 22.01.23 um 09:31 schrieb Peter kovacs:

The output from git --log can be filtered to a since date. If we use the last 
build date then we can check if there are entries.
Maybe some other switches would help.

Am 21. Januar 2023 15:03:02 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:

Hi Gavin,

Am 21.01.23 um 13:33 schrieb Gavin McDonald:

Hi All,

The nightly builds at https://ci2.apache.org/#/builders/58 are using up
much unnecessary
disk space on the nightlies.apache.org server.

Currently Openoffice alone is using more than 1TB - all due to these
nightly builds.
Over 600GB are the linux64 snapshots and the rest are the linsnap* ones.

Many many of these snapshots are identical to previous ones, but because
the date of the build is included then they are just repeated each day.
Even if no commits for weeks there is multi GB tars and debs being uploaded
each day.

This seems a waste.

Not only this, but no snapshots are being cleaned up, we have snapshots
dating back nearly a year just sitting there.

Lets clean this up and be smarter going forwards.

I would like to see these nightlies changed :-

1. Change to run weekly instead of daily.
2. Instead of, or in addition to 1, build and upload by commit trigger.

Just to clarify:

I think the logic should be: Look every day (night) if there was a code
change. If yes, do a build, otherwise skip.

I don't want to trigger a build with every single commit... ;-)

Regards,

    Matthias


3. Clean up snapshots older than 1 month.

Thoughts please



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maintenance Window on Forums and Wiki

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Charlie,

Do you refer to the problem with the missing SIGNATURE_REQUIRED string 
missing in this thread [1].


If a user enters the proper information in this field does the 
registration work?


[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/zj3m2q4bk0z5htt97npbk28dcw04po4n

Thanks,
Carl


On 1/20/23 11:36 AM, casa...@email.it wrote:

It seems that nobody cares about the Italian forum...

- Messaggio originale -
Da: casa...@email.it
A: "dev" 
Cc: "users" 
Inviato: Mercoledì, 11 gennaio 2023 16:42:52
Oggetto: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Maintenance Window on Forums and Wiki

I was hoping that the opportunity was good to fix the registration form of the 
Italian forum, but it was not so.
 From the Italian forum it seems you don't care about anyone...

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Da: "Dave Fisher" 
A: "dev" , us...@openoffice.apache.org
Inviato: Martedì, 10 gennaio 2023 18:57:25
Oggetto: [ANNOUNCE] Maintenance Window on Forums and Wiki

ASF Infrastructure Scheduled routine maintenance, OpenOffice forums and wiki 
starting at Jan 11, 2023 - 11:00AM UTC and ending at Jan 11, 2023 - 11:15AM UTC.

The server hosting the OpenOffice forums and Wiki will be undergoing routine 
maintenance on Wednesday the 11th of January at 11AM UTC. We expect this 
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Re: Marketing Mailing List

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Dave,

On 1/7/23 11:31 AM, Dave wrote:

The marketing mailing list has a deteriorating level of usefulness.
Since 2014 there have been 330 posts, the majority of which had very
little to do with the "marketing" the software or promotion of the project:
 Year Posts
 2014  211
 2015   40
 2016   43
 2017   21
 20184
 20192
 20203
 20213
 20223
Total 330

Apart from the small flurry of activity in 2014 just before Rob Weir
retired from the project. the mailing list has served almost no useful
purpose, other than to attract a steady 24/7 stream of spam posts.

Since the project doesn't engage in any marketing activity and those few
events at which we attend are normally discussed on the dev list, I
propose that, unless any member of the project can offer any clear and
fully justifiable reason for doing otherwise, we shut down the "spam
bait" marketing list.

Dave

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+1 for removing it.

Best regards,
Carl



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Re: T-DOSE 2023

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Michael,

On 1/7/23 9:18 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote:

Hello,

T-DOSE 2023 will be held on the 22nd and 23rd of April 2023, at a new 
location the Weeffabriek in Geldrop (near Eindhoven).


T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote 
use and development of Free Software. During this event, Free Software 
projects, developers and visitors can exchange ideas and knowledge.


https://t-dose.org/

Apache OpenOffice will have a booth at T-DOSE again.

https://t-dose.org/2023/projects/

Mechtilde and I will maintain this booth, but helpers are cordially 
welcome.


Kind regards
Michael



Thanks for the information and to you and Mechtilde for representing at 
the event.


Best regards,
Carl

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Re: Happy...

[Carl Marcum]

Happy New Year!!

On 1/1/23 2:27 PM, Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:
I’m gladly joining Matthias in wishing everyone a happy and prosperous 
new year!

Re: Profile Backup/Restore

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Dave,

On 12/30/22 2:46 PM, Dave wrote:

So AOO is incapable of, or prohibited from, spawning an external process?


I'm fairly sure it can with a shell execute or something similar.



So an AOO extension is not really an option and the very long standing
problem of our users data being destroyed by this issue continues on
unresolved, because we don't THINK it can be done instead of finding a
way to get it done.


I was only questioning swapping profiles during a session which would happen if 
launched from an extension.
I can see how an external program once launched from an extension or internal 
command could then shutdown the office if needed to perform the tasks.
With a users permission of course :)



I just threw an idea into the pot for consideration, I never claimed it
was in anyway a perfect, or even workable solution.


I didn't mean to imply anything about your proposal.

Best regards,
Carl



Best Regards
Dave

On 30/12/2022 18:49, Carl Marcum wrote:

I can understand using a standalone application but how can an extension
work if it depends on the office running?
As you said you check for it and close it first in yours.

Best regards,
Carl

On 12/30/22 8:39 AM, Moderator wrote:

Yes an extension would work, I wrote a free standing Windows exe in
PureBasicfor my own use.

You are correct in saying it is unwise to access a user profile while
AOO is running, which is why my code tests for a running instance of LO
and closes it first. Obviously I would not just close the program if the
code was not exclusively for my own personal use.

I have never developed an edition of the code for Linux or Apple,
because I have watched mailing list, forum complaints and bug reports
for over 10 years and the profile corruption issue seems to be mostly a
Windows issue.


On 30/12/2022 12:35, Bidouille wrote:

An extension will not work.
Because OpenOffice shoudn't be running to access on profile.


- Mail original -

De: "Peter Kovacs"
À:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Décembre 2022 12:40:06
Objet: Re: Profile Backup/Restore

Hi Pedro,

Am 28.12.22 um 23:30 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Thank you for the feedback.

I was not thinking of Profile corruption (although the solution for
some issues is resetting the profile which means that some part of
it was corrupted?)

It was more a tool to Backup a working profile and hopefully being
able to import it in another machine.

Having separate check boxes to import/export different parts of the
profile was my main idea (it could also be used as debugging tool
to pinpoint the problem when a corruption actually occurs)

Resetting a profile (as suggested repeatedly) solves some problems
but wastes a lot of time and effort that the user already had
accumulated in his profile.

As an example, it would be really useful to backup the personal
dictionary on one computer and being able to import (merge?) in
another.
I am aware that you can dig in to the profile structure and copy a
file. But a common user would not do that.

Can this be done with an extension?

sure we can create this as an extension. The Main issue is still we
need
to integrate the functionality.

All the best

Peter


Thanks!
Pedro


On 12/28/2022 9:34 PM WET Carl Marcum   wrote:

    Hi All,

On 12/28/22 2:53 PM, Peter kovacs wrote:

I am not sure which issue it is.
There is one script from Hana that resets the user profile. We
need to package it and make it execute by menue

I have the suspicion that the profile corruption is related to
the file corruption issue. On power fail, or sleep a file can
become corrupted when AOO tries to write in the same moment.
It is quite hard to create this.

All the best
Peter

Am 28. Dezember 2022 16:51:03 MEZ schrieb Damjan
Jovanovic:

Hi all

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 4:55 PM Matthias
Seidel
wrote:


Hi Pedro,

Am 19.12.22 um 13:39 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Is there any extension to Backup/Restore the contents of the
User

Profile?

I don't mean copy files but actually exporting and importing
the

contents?

If there isn't, is any of the developers on this mailing list
interested

in creating one?

I believe this would be a great contribution to all OpenOffice
users...

I volunteer to do any testing required!

I think this has been discussed several times in the last
years, but
nothing ever happened.

I am a bit concerned that this time you didn't even get a
reaction...


It's the festive season, many people aren't reading emails.



Personally, I would prefer an extension (OS independent), but I
could
imagine problems with copying/restoring the profile while AOO
is still
active.


Is the user profile only read at startup and written to at
shutdown or is it more dynamic than that?
If so that could be a problem for doing it during a session,
especially the restore part.

Making a backup copy during the session is probably reasonable
though.


If profile corruption is such a problem, why don't we fix it?

I've been using since S

Re: No OpenOffice Devroom at FOSDEM 2023

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Andrea,

On 12/30/22 12:52 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
You've often seen me spamming this list in the last week of the year 
in recent years calling for FOSDEM submissions, but I am not doing it 
this time... since there will be no OpenOffice devroom at FOSDEM 2023.


With the return to physical events, rooms are limited and FOSDEM tries 
to rotate projects, so OpenOffice, despite the request we filed, 
didn't make the list this year but it might find space again in future.


We should be grateful to the FOSDEM organizers for having offered us a 
room for several years, without requesting (or receiving, for that 
matter) any money or financial benefit from the Apache OpenOffice 
project.


Still, there will be other ASF projects represented in different 
devrooms and possibly an ASF booth too... so there are still reasons 
to consider attending FOSDEM


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Thanks for the information and for all that you have done for the project with 
FOSDEM.
The remote format worked good for me for a couple years and I'm glad I had the 
opportunity to participate with talks where I wouldn't have been able to 
otherwise.

Best regards,
Carl

Re: Profile Backup/Restore

[Carl Marcum]

I can understand using a standalone application but how can an extension work 
if it depends on the office running?
As you said you check for it and close it first in yours.

Best regards,
Carl

On 12/30/22 8:39 AM, Moderator wrote:

Yes an extension would work, I wrote a free standing Windows exe in
PureBasicfor my own use.

You are correct in saying it is unwise to access a user profile while
AOO is running, which is why my code tests for a running instance of LO
and closes it first. Obviously I would not just close the program if the
code was not exclusively for my own personal use.

I have never developed an edition of the code for Linux or Apple,
because I have watched mailing list, forum complaints and bug reports
for over 10 years and the profile corruption issue seems to be mostly a
Windows issue.


On 30/12/2022 12:35, Bidouille wrote:

An extension will not work.
Because OpenOffice shoudn't be running to access on profile.


- Mail original -

De: "Peter Kovacs"
À:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Décembre 2022 12:40:06
Objet: Re: Profile Backup/Restore

Hi Pedro,

Am 28.12.22 um 23:30 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Thank you for the feedback.

I was not thinking of Profile corruption (although the solution for
some issues is resetting the profile which means that some part of
it was corrupted?)

It was more a tool to Backup a working profile and hopefully being
able to import it in another machine.

Having separate check boxes to import/export different parts of the
profile was my main idea (it could also be used as debugging tool
to pinpoint the problem when a corruption actually occurs)

Resetting a profile (as suggested repeatedly) solves some problems
but wastes a lot of time and effort that the user already had
accumulated in his profile.

As an example, it would be really useful to backup the personal
dictionary on one computer and being able to import (merge?) in
another.
I am aware that you can dig in to the profile structure and copy a
file. But a common user would not do that.

Can this be done with an extension?

sure we can create this as an extension. The Main issue is still we
need
to integrate the functionality.

All the best

Peter


Thanks!
Pedro


On 12/28/2022 9:34 PM WET Carl Marcum  wrote:

   
Hi All,


On 12/28/22 2:53 PM, Peter kovacs wrote:

I am not sure which issue it is.
There is one script from Hana that resets the user profile. We
need to package it and make it execute by menue

I have the suspicion that the profile corruption is related to
the file corruption issue. On power fail, or sleep a file can
become corrupted when AOO tries to write in the same moment.
It is quite hard to create this.

All the best
Peter

Am 28. Dezember 2022 16:51:03 MEZ schrieb Damjan
Jovanovic:

Hi all

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 4:55 PM Matthias
Seidel
wrote:


Hi Pedro,

Am 19.12.22 um 13:39 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Is there any extension to Backup/Restore the contents of the
User

Profile?

I don't mean copy files but actually exporting and importing
the

contents?

If there isn't, is any of the developers on this mailing list
interested

in creating one?

I believe this would be a great contribution to all OpenOffice
users...

I volunteer to do any testing required!

I think this has been discussed several times in the last
years, but
nothing ever happened.

I am a bit concerned that this time you didn't even get a
reaction...


It's the festive season, many people aren't reading emails.



Personally, I would prefer an extension (OS independent), but I
could
imagine problems with copying/restoring the profile while AOO
is still
active.


Is the user profile only read at startup and written to at
shutdown or is it more dynamic than that?
If so that could be a problem for doing it during a session,
especially the restore part.

Making a backup copy during the session is probably reasonable
though.


If profile corruption is such a problem, why don't we fix it?

I've been using since Star Office and never once had a corrupt
file or profile.
But I also never suspended a laptop with applications running
either.

best regards,
Carl


Where are the bug reports?



Regards,

  Matthias


Thank you advance!

Best,
Pedro


Regards
Damjan

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Re: Profile Backup/Restore

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

On 12/28/22 2:53 PM, Peter kovacs wrote:

I am not sure which issue it is.
There is one script from Hana that resets the user profile. We need to package 
it and make it execute by menue

I have the suspicion that the profile corruption is related to the file 
corruption issue. On power fail, or sleep a file can become corrupted when AOO 
tries to write in the same moment.
It is quite hard to create this.

All the best
Peter

Am 28. Dezember 2022 16:51:03 MEZ schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Hi all

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 4:55 PM Matthias Seidel
wrote:


Hi Pedro,

Am 19.12.22 um 13:39 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi all

Is there any extension to Backup/Restore the contents of the User

Profile?

I don't mean copy files but actually exporting and importing the

contents?

If there isn't, is any of the developers on this mailing list interested

in creating one?

I believe this would be a great contribution to all OpenOffice users...

I volunteer to do any testing required!

I think this has been discussed several times in the last years, but
nothing ever happened.

I am a bit concerned that this time you didn't even get a reaction...


It's the festive season, many people aren't reading emails.



Personally, I would prefer an extension (OS independent), but I could
imagine problems with copying/restoring the profile while AOO is still
active.


Is the user profile only read at startup and written to at shutdown or is it 
more dynamic than that?
If so that could be a problem for doing it during a session, especially the 
restore part.

Making a backup copy during the session is probably reasonable though.


If profile corruption is such a problem, why don't we fix it?


I've been using since Star Office and never once had a corrupt file or profile.
But I also never suspended a laptop with applications running either.

best regards,
Carl



Where are the bug reports?



Regards,

Matthias


Thank you advance!

Best,
Pedro




Regards
Damjan

Re: building 4.2.X and trunk on ARM64 platforms

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,


On 12/23/22 10:12 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 23.12.22 um 15:21 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi All,

I'm working on setting up a MacBook Pro M2 with Ventura and was
wondering on the current state of building AOO 4.2+ or trunk on ARM64
for macOS or Linux. It seems pretty good at virtualization with ARM64
OS's.

I seem to remember patches being submitted for ARM but I don't find
much about building.

Yes, it would be great if we had a native ARM build... ;-)


Otherwise I'll have to try emulation for x64 and would probably be
much less performant.

macOS on M1/M2 runs the Intel binaries automatically via "Rosetta 2"
[1]. I haven't heard of performance issues.


Yes I'm running AOO on macOS fine.  This is about the ARM64 platform building 
it ;)

Best regards,
Carl



Regards,

    Matthias

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software)#Rosetta_2


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building 4.2.X and trunk on ARM64 platforms

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

I'm working on setting up a MacBook Pro M2 with Ventura and was 
wondering on the current state of building AOO 4.2+ or trunk on ARM64 
for macOS or Linux. It seems pretty good at virtualization with ARM64 OS's.


I seem to remember patches being submitted for ARM but I don't find much 
about building.


Otherwise I'll have to try emulation for x64 and would probably be much 
less performant.


Thanks,

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Re: Complete 4.1 Getting Started Guide available on mwiki

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,

On 12/6/22 13:52, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 06.12.22 um 19:48 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Under Function Key Shortcuts
Shift+F10 Opens the context (pop-up) menu.

Works for me on Windows 10.

Regards,

    Matthias



Thanks for checking.

I have an older laptop with Windows I'll check next.
It's weird that it's not working for some reason even after I reset them 
to default just in case something had changed them.


Other function keys are working like F1 for instance.

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Re: AOO4114 Windows Test builds

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,

On 12/2/22 03:53, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi all,

I just finished a new Test build for Windows. This is my first AOO41X
build with Cygwin64.

I don't expect problems, but if you have the time, please test it:

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-4114-Test/

Regards,

    Matthias




I've ran the build verification tests against it and all tests pass 
except one and I'm sure it's just my machine because that test also 
fails on 4.1.13 production where it use to pass so it seems good to me.


Since it's built with Cygwin64 is it 64-bit or still 32-bit?

Thanks,
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Re: Complete 4.1 Getting Started Guide available on mwiki

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Keith,

Hopefully this doesn't become a duplicate as I replied once from the 
wrong account...


On 12/4/22 15:50, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
The complete 4.1 Getting Started Guide is now available in PDF format 
on the mwiki at 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/AOO4_User_Guides/AOO4.1_User_Guide_Chapters.


The Chapter files will follow along shortly.


Regards
Keith
For the AOO Documentation Team


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Thanks to you and all the contributors for the updated documentation!

It just so happens I was having trouble with an automated test on 
Windows today.
It uses a Shift+F10 keystroke to open the context menu you would also 
get with a right-mouse click.

In this case it's to get to a open hyperlink command in Writer.

That keystroke doesn't seem to work on my Windows machine like it does 
on Linux so I was looking for the default shortcut keys.


I have an old copy of the getting started guide from 3.0.
There is an Appendix A - Keyboard shortcuts where these were found before.

Under Function Key Shortcuts
Shift+F10 Opens the context (pop-up) menu.

In Tools > Customize I don't see an entry for that keystroke so I'm 
wondering if something happened to it.


I don't see anything about this in the guide other than mixed in 
sections like Styles.  Will it appear somewhere else or maybe I need to 
keep looking?

I admit I haven't read it cover to cover yet.

Thanks again!
Carl

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Re: Support for maven

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Jim,

On 12/2/22 13:24, Jim Jagielski wrote:

There are some java apps that no longer support ant and
instead rely on maven. Last I checked, I don't think we
support that, do we?

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Not sure what you mean by they no longer support Ant.
Do you mean they are now built with Maven instead of Ant?

I'm not aware of anything Java in AOO itself that is being built with 
Maven.

Only Ant or Make.

That also goes for other things like the NetBeans plugins for Addons, 
Addins, client apps, etc.

There are thousands of lines of Ant in those.

Also the automated test suites are Ant built.

I tend to use Gradle in the AOO extension templates (replaces NetBeans) 
due to it's excellent support for including Ant tasks and I prefer the 
Groovy DSL to XML build files.
And I was able to reuse those thousands of lines of Ant instead of 
porting it to Maven.


That being said most things could probably be ported to Maven (or 
Gradle) if we decided to.


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Re: Check for update

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Bidouille,

On 12/1/22 12:20, Bidouille wrote:

When I go to Tools > Options > OpenOffice > Online update
Push on "Check now" button
I got "The host name ooo-updates.apache.org could not be resolved." error
Did you have same result?

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On AOO 4.1.13 and CentOS 8 it works for me.

Maybe a network or DNS issue?

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Re: [Wiki] Spam spam spam

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,

On 11/27/22 08:29, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi all,

Can we disable users that were not active for long?


What do you propose?

That user account is very active :(
Do we have a way to clean those up?

Is there any way to throttle the amount of pages created or anything 
like that?


I would also be for disabling inactive accounts and letting people 
request it to sysadmin@ or something like that if that would help.


Best regards,
Carl



Our Wiki is full of SPAM now due to "hacked" accounts...

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Bell6557==500=Bell6557

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 25.11.22 um 17:42 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Another bunch of "mysterious" posts:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ClipArt_Energ%C3%ADa_SVG

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 09.11.22 um 14:36 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Bidouille wrote:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges=500

Somebody can ban Albryan @ comcast.net and remove his posts?

User blocked. As for posts, I'll delete them later today or tomorrow,
just the time to check recent and old activity in detail.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [Action required] Cygwin x86 end-of-life

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Hi Matthias,

On 11/27/22 09:35, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 26.11.22 um 16:11 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and Damjan,

On 11/26/22 09:24, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:42 PM Matthias Seidel

wrote:


Hi Pedro,

Am 26.11.22 um 12:26 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi Matthias, all


On 11/25/2022 7:16 PM WET Matthias Seidel


wrote:

Damjan posted the needed patches to build AOO41X with Cygwin64, if
anyone wants to commit them...

If this exists and works, it should be committed ASAP.

We discussed that already a year (!) ago. Unfortunately I can't find
the
list in my archive, but I am sure Damjan posted it.


The required patches are also listed on the Wiki:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Building_old_versions

Regards
Damjan


Thanks for the links Damjan!

Matthias could you try to build with Cygwin64 if these two commits are
back-ported into a test branch for 4.1.x?

In fact it were three commits. ;-)

I somehow managed to get them merged and am building AOO41X right now
with Cygwin64.

Let's see what happens. I will open a PR then...


Good Luck!
Carl


Regards,

    Matthias


Thanks,
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Re: [Action required] Cygwin x86 end-of-life

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Hi Matthias and Damjan,

On 11/26/22 09:24, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:42 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:


Hi Pedro,

Am 26.11.22 um 12:26 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi Matthias, all


On 11/25/2022 7:16 PM WET Matthias Seidel 

wrote:

Damjan posted the needed patches to build AOO41X with Cygwin64, if
anyone wants to commit them...

If this exists and works, it should be committed ASAP.

We discussed that already a year (!) ago. Unfortunately I can't find the
list in my archive, but I am sure Damjan posted it.


The required patches are also listed on the Wiki:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Building_old_versions

Regards
Damjan



Thanks for the links Damjan!

Matthias could you try to build with Cygwin64 if these two commits are 
back-ported into a test branch for 4.1.x?


Thanks,
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Re: Missing Tab function in OpenOffice BASIC

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Hi Matthias,

On 9/26/22 4:23 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 25.09.22 um 13:37 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,

On 9/25/22 4:14 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Thanks!

Should we cherry-pick this at least for AOO42X?

Now that the tests in trunk are ran standalone and independent of the
versions I haven't been back porting anything in test to AOO42X.

Thanks for the clarification! So the standalone test are kept only in
trunk but can be run against any branch.


Yes the "test" directory in trunk is the most up-to-date tests.
The directory can be copied to another location and used and is now 
independent of having just built the office which was the way it used to 
be.
Those tests can be ran against any of the three main version branches 
after installing or copying the "installed" build and sdk to another 
location.


I should probably update the test readme since I wrote it when I was 
working in the standalone-test feature branch at that point.

I'll put it on my todo list.

Best regards,
Carl


The Tab function must not have made it into 4.1.13 but it seems to be
in AOO41X since the test passed.

Yes, the function will show up in 4.1.14.

Regards,

    Matthias


Best regards,
Carl


Regards,

     Matthias

Am 25.09.22 um 00:44 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Czesław and All,

On 8/8/22 6:23 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi Czesław and All,

On 8/8/22 12:23 PM, Czesław Wolański wrote:

Hi Carl,

user-defined function "StarBasicTab"

Function StarBasicTab(x As Long) As String
  StarBasicTab = Tab(x)
End Function

Calc does not display HT (ASCII 09) in the cell.

Testing:
Cell A2:   1
Cell B2:   =StarBasicTab(A2)
cell C2:    =REPT(UNICHAR(9);A2)

cell D2: =(B2 = C2)

See the .ods file available at the link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oh4yK6IGDdzUGwPPV7fX4J8Xr0SUlTm0/view?usp=sharing



Perfect :)
I should be able to use it just like this.
I confirm it works using a trunk build.

Since this was back in 2015, I think this is another example of us
thinking 4.2 was right around the corner and not back-porting to 4.1.

+1 to back-port it.

Best regards,
Carl


Hope this helps
Czesław


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napisał(a):


Hi Carl,
Am 08.08.22 um 00:41 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,

On 8/7/22 5:10 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 07.08.22 um 22:36 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and all,

On 8/7/22 10:08 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi,

Damjan added the missing Tab function in 2015:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=19221#c9

It was done in trunk (4.2.0) at that time.

However it introduced a regression that was fixed now in trunk and
AOO42X.

@Carl: Maybe you want to add a qa test for that function?

Maybe if someone could give me an small example of how it would be
used.
I'm assuming it is a StarBasic function and not a Calc function.
Is that correct?

Yes, StarBasic/OpenOffice Basic.
But I am not even sure if we have tests for it?

Czesław might have some code for it...

I just need an small example of a method or function in Basic that
demonstrates how one would use the Tab function and I can try to
create a
test for it.

Help says:

Print Statement [Runtime]

Outputs the specified strings or numeric expressions to a dialog or
to a
file.
Syntax:

Print [#FileName,] Expression1[{;|,} [Spc(Number As Integer);]
[Tab(pos As
Integer);] [Expression2[...]]


But I don't know if that helps.



One example is the test of Clng (convert to Long) where we have a
test
spreadsheet [1] with a Basic macro in it like:

Function StarBasicCLng(x As String) As Double
   StarBasicCLng = CLng(x)
End Function

In the spreadsheet we use this macro function in a formula like
"=STARBASICCLNG(A2)" and test equality of the cell value with
another cell.

Then we have a unit test TestFormulaDocs.java [2] that opens these
test
documents and checks that the formulas worked or not.

Let me know if you have any questions.

[1]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/data/uno/sc/fvt/StarBasicCLng.ods


[2]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/source/fvt/uno/sc/formula/TestFormulaDocs.java



The question is if we want to backport that (missing) function to
AOO41X?


Regards,


  Matthias


Best regards,
Carl


Regards,

   Matthias

Thanks,
Carl

@All: Would it make sense to cherry-pick this for AOO41X?

Regards,

    Matthias



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The test for the star basic Tab function is in trunk [1].
I ran it against trunk and AOO41X builds and it passed on both.

Thanks Czesław for providing th

Re: Missing Tab function in OpenOffice BASIC

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,

On 9/25/22 4:14 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Thanks!

Should we cherry-pick this at least for AOO42X?


Now that the tests in trunk are ran standalone and independent of the 
versions I haven't been back porting anything in test to AOO42X.


The Tab function must not have made it into 4.1.13 but it seems to be in 
AOO41X since the test passed.


Best regards,
Carl



Regards,

    Matthias

Am 25.09.22 um 00:44 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Czesław and All,

On 8/8/22 6:23 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi Czesław and All,

On 8/8/22 12:23 PM, Czesław Wolański wrote:

Hi Carl,

user-defined function "StarBasicTab"

Function StarBasicTab(x As Long) As String
     StarBasicTab = Tab(x)
End Function

Calc does not display HT (ASCII 09) in the cell.

Testing:
Cell A2:   1
Cell B2:   =StarBasicTab(A2)
cell C2:    =REPT(UNICHAR(9);A2)

cell D2: =(B2 = C2)

See the .ods file available at the link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oh4yK6IGDdzUGwPPV7fX4J8Xr0SUlTm0/view?usp=sharing


Perfect :)
I should be able to use it just like this.
I confirm it works using a trunk build.

Since this was back in 2015, I think this is another example of us
thinking 4.2 was right around the corner and not back-porting to 4.1.

+1 to back-port it.

Best regards,
Carl


Hope this helps
Czesław


pon., 8 sie 2022 o 17:07 Matthias Seidel 
napisał(a):


Hi Carl,
Am 08.08.22 um 00:41 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,

On 8/7/22 5:10 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 07.08.22 um 22:36 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and all,

On 8/7/22 10:08 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi,

Damjan added the missing Tab function in 2015:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=19221#c9

It was done in trunk (4.2.0) at that time.

However it introduced a regression that was fixed now in trunk and
AOO42X.

@Carl: Maybe you want to add a qa test for that function?

Maybe if someone could give me an small example of how it would be
used.
I'm assuming it is a StarBasic function and not a Calc function.
Is that correct?

Yes, StarBasic/OpenOffice Basic.
But I am not even sure if we have tests for it?

Czesław might have some code for it...

I just need an small example of a method or function in Basic that
demonstrates how one would use the Tab function and I can try to
create a
test for it.

Help says:

Print Statement [Runtime]

Outputs the specified strings or numeric expressions to a dialog or
to a
file.
Syntax:

Print [#FileName,] Expression1[{;|,} [Spc(Number As Integer);]
[Tab(pos As
Integer);] [Expression2[...]]


But I don't know if that helps.



One example is the test of Clng (convert to Long) where we have a test
spreadsheet [1] with a Basic macro in it like:

Function StarBasicCLng(x As String) As Double
  StarBasicCLng = CLng(x)
End Function

In the spreadsheet we use this macro function in a formula like
"=STARBASICCLNG(A2)" and test equality of the cell value with
another cell.

Then we have a unit test TestFormulaDocs.java [2] that opens these
test
documents and checks that the formulas worked or not.

Let me know if you have any questions.

[1]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/data/uno/sc/fvt/StarBasicCLng.ods

[2]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/source/fvt/uno/sc/formula/TestFormulaDocs.java


The question is if we want to backport that (missing) function to
AOO41X?


Regards,


     Matthias


Best regards,
Carl


Regards,

  Matthias

Thanks,
Carl

@All: Would it make sense to cherry-pick this for AOO41X?

Regards,

   Matthias



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I ran it against trunk and AOO41X builds and it passed on both.

Thanks Czesław for providing the test document and function.

[1]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/3b297b461537a449cdc46a885832873b48e62701

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Re: Missing Tab function in OpenOffice BASIC

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Czesław and All,

On 8/8/22 6:23 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi Czesław and All,

On 8/8/22 12:23 PM, Czesław Wolański wrote:

Hi Carl,

user-defined function "StarBasicTab"

Function StarBasicTab(x As Long) As String
    StarBasicTab = Tab(x)
End Function

Calc does not display HT (ASCII 09) in the cell.

Testing:
Cell A2:   1
Cell B2:   =StarBasicTab(A2)
cell C2:    =REPT(UNICHAR(9);A2)

cell D2: =(B2 = C2)

See the .ods file available at the link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oh4yK6IGDdzUGwPPV7fX4J8Xr0SUlTm0/view?usp=sharing 


Perfect :)
I should be able to use it just like this.
I confirm it works using a trunk build.

Since this was back in 2015, I think this is another example of us 
thinking 4.2 was right around the corner and not back-porting to 4.1.


+1 to back-port it.

Best regards,
Carl



Hope this helps
Czesław


pon., 8 sie 2022 o 17:07 Matthias Seidel 
napisał(a):


Hi Carl,
Am 08.08.22 um 00:41 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,

On 8/7/22 5:10 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 07.08.22 um 22:36 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and all,

On 8/7/22 10:08 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi,

Damjan added the missing Tab function in 2015:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=19221#c9

It was done in trunk (4.2.0) at that time.

However it introduced a regression that was fixed now in trunk and
AOO42X.

@Carl: Maybe you want to add a qa test for that function?

Maybe if someone could give me an small example of how it would be 
used.

I'm assuming it is a StarBasic function and not a Calc function.
Is that correct?

Yes, StarBasic/OpenOffice Basic.
But I am not even sure if we have tests for it?

Czesław might have some code for it...

I just need an small example of a method or function in Basic that
demonstrates how one would use the Tab function and I can try to 
create a

test for it.

Help says:

Print Statement [Runtime]

Outputs the specified strings or numeric expressions to a dialog or 
to a

file.
Syntax:

Print [#FileName,] Expression1[{;|,} [Spc(Number As Integer);] 
[Tab(pos As

Integer);] [Expression2[...]]


But I don't know if that helps.



One example is the test of Clng (convert to Long) where we have a test
spreadsheet [1] with a Basic macro in it like:

Function StarBasicCLng(x As String) As Double
 StarBasicCLng = CLng(x)
End Function

In the spreadsheet we use this macro function in a formula like
"=STARBASICCLNG(A2)" and test equality of the cell value with 
another cell.


Then we have a unit test TestFormulaDocs.java [2] that opens these test
documents and checks that the formulas worked or not.

Let me know if you have any questions.

[1]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/data/uno/sc/fvt/StarBasicCLng.ods 


[2]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/source/fvt/uno/sc/formula/TestFormulaDocs.java 



The question is if we want to backport that (missing) function to 
AOO41X?



Regards,


    Matthias


Best regards,
Carl


Regards,

 Matthias

Thanks,
Carl

@All: Would it make sense to cherry-pick this for AOO41X?

Regards,

  Matthias



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The test for the star basic Tab function is in trunk [1].
I ran it against trunk and AOO41X builds and it passed on both.

Thanks Czesław for providing the test document and function.

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/3b297b461537a449cdc46a885832873b48e62701


Best regards,
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Re: Getting Involved with Apache OpenOffice

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Monamy,

Welcome to the project.

We appreciate your interest.

Apache OpenOffice is a complex codebase. It takes time to learn your way 
around.
Feel free to ask questions on this list. Please be patient as we are all 
volunteers here.


As a developer you should learn to build the office from source [1].

You can find our priority issues in our Bugzilla instance here [2]. you 
find our priority tickets.

AOO Architecture is described here [3].

On our project site we have an orientation section to review [4].

[1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO 
(on the Bottom OS based guides)
[2] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Blocker+issues+4.2.0

[3] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Architecture
[4] https://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html

Thanks again for your interest.

Best regards,
Carl


On 9/21/22 6:11 AM, monamy islam wrote:

   Hello,
I am Monamy Islam from Bangladesh. I am a learner of C++ and a user
of Apache OpenOffice.

I would like to learn and contribute to all/any of the following topics:

- Work on bug reports and try to reproduce them
- Test the program and report problems
- Fix bugs
- Code new features

Hope to hear from you soon.

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Re: [DISCUSS] In a few weeks 333 Mio. downloads

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Marcus,

Thanks for posting it!

Best regards,
Carl

On 8/30/22 6:33 PM, Marcus wrote:

I've now published a new blog post about the 333 mio. downloads:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/more-than-333-million-downloads

PS:
I've haven't found any setting to show a sharp graphic. So, when 
someone knows how to do that ...


Marcus



Am 06.07.22 um 20:21 schrieb Marcus:

Am 06.07.22 um 15:29 schrieb Czesław Wolański:

Definitely +1 for a blog post - ganz bestimmt keine Schnapsidee ;‑)


:-D


Is information about the origin of the "Schnapszahl" given on the Duden
website reliable?
https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Schnapszahl


Yes, their decription of the term is right.

Marcus




Am Mi., 6. Juli 2022 um 14:35 Uhr schrieb Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mcke...@comcast.net>:


Marcus wrote:

In a few weeks we will see 333,333,333 Mio. downloads.

In Germany this kind of number is known as "Schapszahl" (English:
repdigit) and is in the most cases a lucky event. Is this also 
seen in

other countries?

I would honor this with a blog post. What do you think?

Thanks

Marcus

Marcus;

+1 I think it is a wonderful Idea.

Regards
Keith



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Re: How to scale the Project

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Peter,

I have often thought about starting some TODO type lists on the planning 
wiki but haven't had time yet.

We may already have one somewhere.

Besides the obvious 4.2 blockers, there are probably a number of things 
we could come up with divided by areas like main office development, QA, 
docs, infrastructure, etc.
Like in QA there are a number of new tests that need done and a large 
project could be to update the framework JUnit from 4 to 5 for example.


Maybe for areas or tasks we could and volunteers for mentors and tasks.

Then we would have concrete things to point volunteers to by interest 
instead of letting them try to find things to work on on their own.

When there is a volunteer maybe they feel a need to complete the task.

After all that maybe a new call for volunteers?

Just a thought.

Best regards,
Carl

On 8/29/22 2:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,


I had on the weekend a philosophical talk with a friend of mine. One 
Claim ha did in this discussion has been that (for whatever Reasons) 
not a lot of people have the trait of initiative. Having initiative is 
a special trait.


Since we suffer from the Issue that there are people who would like to 
help, but not show any signs of Intiative, I thought we should maybe 
discuss how we could empower programmers to work on Issues.


My friend suggested in the discussion that maybe it could work out 
that volunteers with initiative write what is to do in a specific case.


And then we look for someone to do the task. This might be inefficient 
at first. But maybe we can get people to volunteer by this method.



What do you think?  Does anyone have experience from other Projects?

And how much needxs to be layed out in order other volunteers look 
into it?



Any thoughts?

All the best

Peter


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Re: Can't find boostrap when building

[Carl Marcum]

Greetings Hao,

On 8/12/22 6:53 PM, Hao Wang wrote:

Looks like I need to provide location for dmake source code. How can I fix this 
problem ?

checking for gcc... /usr/bin/gcc
checking the GNU gcc compiler version... checked (gcc 11)
checking for -Bsymbolic-functions linker support ... found
checking whether to enable pch feature... no
checking for GNU make... make
checking the GNU make version... make 4.3
3+:
checking for dmake... checking for dmake... no
configure: no system or user-provided dmake found
configure: error: no URL for dmake source code specified, either. Use 
--with-dmake-url to supply an URL; run configure with the --help option for a 
list of possible URLs.


From: Hao Wang
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 5:04 AM
To: Matthias Seidel ; dev@openoffice.apache.org 

Subject: Re: Can't find boostrap when building

I did not give any configuration switches. Do I have to ?


The official build scripts are a good reference [1].

Since I build 4.1.x and and trunk on the same VM's I usually use config 
switches for these.


For trunk I use:

--with-dmake-url=https://github.com/jimjag/dmake/archive/v4.13.1/dmake-4.13.1.tar.gz
 \
--with-epm-url=https://github.com/jimjag/epm/archive/v5.0.0/epm-5.0.0.tar.gz

for 4.1.13 the Linux 64-bit build script has:

--with-dmake-url=http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
 \
--with-epm-url=http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz


[1] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/

Best regards,
Carl



Bravo !
Hao Wang


From: Matthias Seidel
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 4:21 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Hao Wang
Subject: Re: Can't find boostrap when building


Hi,

Am 06.08.22 um 02:24 schrieb Hao Wang:

I'm following the installation guide on the following page :

https://github.com/apache/openoffice
[https://opengraph.githubassets.com/4a6e17fa075361152ffc9a3f6215db3d728ef5ac31becb7849a37b9d6f1e9772/apache/openoffice]
GitHub - apache/openoffice: Apache 
OpenOffice
Apache OpenOffice ®. The Apache OpenOffice project (AOO) provides a full 
featured office productivity suite based on open standards. It is the 
continuation of the OpenOffice.org project.
github.com

and I ran the following commands


cd aoo/main
autoconf
./configure

Actually it is:

cd aoo/main
autoconf
./configure 
./bootstrap
source *.Set.sh
cd instsetoo_native
build --all



Can you please post your configure switches?

Also, which OS are you trying to build AOO?

Regards,

Matthias

But then I discovered there was no bootstrap file - there was only a 
bootstrap.1 file, which after removal of .1 extension, still not working.

Can anyone help me fix this problem ?

Best Regards,
Hao Wang







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Re: Missing Tab function in OpenOffice BASIC

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Czesław and All,

On 8/8/22 12:23 PM, Czesław Wolański wrote:

Hi Carl,

user-defined function "StarBasicTab"

Function StarBasicTab(x As Long) As String
StarBasicTab = Tab(x)
End Function

Calc does not display HT (ASCII 09) in the cell.

Testing:
Cell A2:   1
Cell B2:   =StarBasicTab(A2)
cell C2:=REPT(UNICHAR(9);A2)

cell D2: =(B2 = C2)

See the .ods file available at the link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oh4yK6IGDdzUGwPPV7fX4J8Xr0SUlTm0/view?usp=sharing

Perfect :)
I should be able to use it just like this.
I confirm it works using a trunk build.

Since this was back in 2015, I think this is another example of us 
thinking 4.2 was right around the corner and not back-porting to 4.1.


+1 to back-port it.

Best regards,
Carl



Hope this helps
Czesław


pon., 8 sie 2022 o 17:07 Matthias Seidel 
napisał(a):


Hi Carl,
Am 08.08.22 um 00:41 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,

On 8/7/22 5:10 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 07.08.22 um 22:36 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and all,

On 8/7/22 10:08 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi,

Damjan added the missing Tab function in 2015:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=19221#c9

It was done in trunk (4.2.0) at that time.

However it introduced a regression that was fixed now in trunk and
AOO42X.

@Carl: Maybe you want to add a qa test for that function?

Maybe if someone could give me an small example of how it would be used.
I'm assuming it is a StarBasic function and not a Calc function.
Is that correct?

Yes, StarBasic/OpenOffice Basic.
But I am not even sure if we have tests for it?

Czesław might have some code for it...

I just need an small example of a method or function in Basic that
demonstrates how one would use the Tab function and I can try to create a
test for it.

Help says:

Print Statement [Runtime]

Outputs the specified strings or numeric expressions to a dialog or to a
file.
Syntax:

Print [#FileName,] Expression1[{;|,} [Spc(Number As Integer);] [Tab(pos As
Integer);] [Expression2[...]]


But I don't know if that helps.



One example is the test of Clng (convert to Long) where we have a test
spreadsheet [1] with a Basic macro in it like:

Function StarBasicCLng(x As String) As Double
 StarBasicCLng = CLng(x)
End Function

In the spreadsheet we use this macro function in a formula like
"=STARBASICCLNG(A2)" and test equality of the cell value with another cell.

Then we have a unit test TestFormulaDocs.java [2] that opens these test
documents and checks that the formulas worked or not.

Let me know if you have any questions.

[1]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/data/uno/sc/fvt/StarBasicCLng.ods
[2]
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/source/fvt/uno/sc/formula/TestFormulaDocs.java

The question is if we want to backport that (missing) function to AOO41X?


Regards,


Matthias


Best regards,
Carl


Regards,

 Matthias

Thanks,
Carl

@All: Would it make sense to cherry-pick this for AOO41X?

Regards,

  Matthias



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Re: Missing Tab function in OpenOffice BASIC

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,

On 8/7/22 5:10 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 07.08.22 um 22:36 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and all,

On 8/7/22 10:08 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi,

Damjan added the missing Tab function in 2015:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=19221#c9

It was done in trunk (4.2.0) at that time.

However it introduced a regression that was fixed now in trunk and
AOO42X.

@Carl: Maybe you want to add a qa test for that function?

Maybe if someone could give me an small example of how it would be used.
I'm assuming it is a StarBasic function and not a Calc function.
Is that correct?

Yes, StarBasic/OpenOffice Basic.
But I am not even sure if we have tests for it?

Czesław might have some code for it...
I just need an small example of a method or function in Basic that 
demonstrates how one would use the Tab function and I can try to create 
a test for it.


One example is the test of Clng (convert to Long) where we have a test 
spreadsheet [1] with a Basic macro in it like:


Function StarBasicCLng(x As String) As Double
    StarBasicCLng = CLng(x)
End Function

In the spreadsheet we use this macro function in a formula like 
"=STARBASICCLNG(A2)" and test equality of the cell value with another cell.


Then we have a unit test TestFormulaDocs.java [2] that opens these test 
documents and checks that the formulas worked or not.


Let me know if you have any questions.

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/data/uno/sc/fvt/StarBasicCLng.ods
[2] 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testuno/source/fvt/uno/sc/formula/TestFormulaDocs.java


Best regards,
Carl



Regards,

    Matthias


Thanks,
Carl


@All: Would it make sense to cherry-pick this for AOO41X?

Regards,

     Matthias




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Re: Missing Tab function in OpenOffice BASIC

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias and all,

On 8/7/22 10:08 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi,

Damjan added the missing Tab function in 2015:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=19221#c9

It was done in trunk (4.2.0) at that time.

However it introduced a regression that was fixed now in trunk and AOO42X.

@Carl: Maybe you want to add a qa test for that function?

Maybe if someone could give me an small example of how it would be used.
I'm assuming it is a StarBasic function and not a Calc function.
Is that correct?

Thanks,
Carl



@All: Would it make sense to cherry-pick this for AOO41X?

Regards,

    Matthias





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Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Dave,

On 8/3/22 5:34 AM, Dave wrote:

Sorry folks. Dave Fisher sensed correctly it was a particularly bad day
with some domestic issues I am dealing with at the moment and I should
not have vented my frustrations at people who did not deserve my
"knee-jerk" reaction to a misunderstanding.

I would like to put my outburst aside and move on with AOO.


Thanks Dave.
Your participation is greatly appreciated.

All the best,
Carl



Regards
Dave Barton

On 02/08/2022 17:12, Dave Fisher wrote:

After 21 years working with users of OpenOffice.org, Apache OpenOffice, and 
LibreOffice Dave’s experience should be respected and not dismissed.

Assume a bad day or frustration instead of further reaction. Apologizing for 
misunderstanding someone is good, friendly community building.

Assume the best,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:

Hi Dave,

Can you explain?
I do not understand why Dave is angry.
I dont think Matthias wanted to offend Dave.

Thanks.
Peter

Am 2. August 2022 16:54:04 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher :

I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion.

If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from 
moderation.

All the best,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

I am not sure what happened here...

But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter".

According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We
should discuss if we need to remove his rights.

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage
quit.

There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to
late for that.


Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave:
Hi Matthias,

Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you
had absolutely no sense of humour.

Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you
have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted)
talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess
who they might be.

YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here
on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine".

Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list
will now be directed to null/dev.

BYE AOO!


On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,

Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave:

Hi Matthias,

Sorry, but you loose that bet.

I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and
installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only
readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with
16Gb
RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close
enough.

Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer
SOMETHING to assist Peter.

I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user.

And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer.


@Peter:
On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO
4.1.13
edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of
to create a crash, but it remained rock solid.

Is there any difference between the RC and released code?

No.

Regards,

Matthias


Regards
Dave


On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,

Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave:

Hi Matthias,

Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box.

I have never been a fan of GNOME.

I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-)

Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and
a lot
of people *are* using GNOME...

Regards,

Matthias


Regards
Dave

On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,

Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint?

We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other
distributions when
GNOME is used as DE.

Regards,

Matthias

Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave:

On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO.

As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy (From
LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes.

Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint?

Check out the document:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing


I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate.

My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So
recent fast
machine)

All the best

Peter

Hi Peter,

Not sure if this will be of any help to you.

My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am  on Linux
Mint 20.3

I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO
4.1.13
(Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with
either
AOO or LibreOffice on Linux.

However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to
edit the
OLE Calc object in your document with 

Re: Open Source Apache License

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Francis,

Thanks for the thoughtful reply to Heather but they may not be 
subscribed to the list.


Best regards,
Carl

On 8/1/22 10:34 PM, F Campos Costero wrote:

I am sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with your devices.
However, this mailing list is not the right place to get help fixing those
problems. Let me explain why that is.

The Apache Software License is just a legal text that sets out the
conditions for using, copying, and modifying software. The license does not
do anything on your device. Many pieces of software are distributed under
the Apache License, so it would not be surprising to find its text or a
reference to the license on your device.

This mailing list is used by the developers of Apache OpenOffice, a product
distributed  under the Apache License. OpenOffice, as released by this
organnization does not do any of the evil things you have experienced.
Though you do not mention OpenOffice in your message, I will say that if
you downloaded and installed OpenOffice from an unscrupulous source, it may
have been modified or other software might have been included in the
download so that malware was installed on your device. The official and
safe source for OpenOffice is https://www.openoffice.org/download/.

However the malware got on to your device, the people on this mailing list
had nothing to do with it and have no realistic way to help you. You are
right searching for expert help but this is not the right place. I am NOT
an expert in malware but I suspect you need to find a local person who can
work directly on you device to diagnose the problem.

Best regards,
Francis

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 4:36 PM Heather Jordan 
wrote:


Yes I'm writing you to inquire about distribution of said license to
unknowing parties/devices. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I do believe
that I read that is considered mis use of the license. This license has
been installed on multiple devices of mine on  occasions usually with more
attached. They are using my private information, locking me out of my
internet, crashing my devices, copying my password, looking through my
history, sending packages to my phone, breaching my banks, credit, getting
my call and message, changing my passwords, forwaring my mail. with a lot
more damage. They are using some type business because my phone says to
speak to my administration I don't have one. Could you please help
correcting this issue please?

   Thank you for your time
Heather Jordan
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Re: problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Pedro and all,

On 7/25/22 9:41 AM, Pedro Lino wrote:

It worries me that 4.1.13 does not show up on

https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

Should I report that?

Sourceforge must be changing the pages (again) because when you press the "Problems 
Downloading?" button, you no longer have the option to choose the mirror you want, 
it will simply switch to another mirror...


It seems to be fixed now.

Thanks,
Carl



Regards,
Pedro


On 07/25/2022 1:52 PM WEST Carl Marcum  wrote:

  
Hi All,


I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to
download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and
the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files
page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that
doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.

When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily
in static offline mode.
But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.

Anybody else get this?

Thanks,
Carl


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Re: problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Dave and all,

On 7/25/22 9:14 AM, Dave wrote:


On 25/07/2022 13:52, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi All,

I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to
download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and
the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files
page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that
doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.

When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily
in static offline mode.
But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.

Anybody else get this?

Thanks,
Carl

Going through the route you describe I get the same, but since I have my
browser set to block almost everything on SurceForge that doesn't surprise.

I suggest the "Alternative download link #2" in the right hand column of
https://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html


I had already grabbed them from
https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.13/binaries/

I wonder if we should change that alternate link to use the cdn?

Thanks,
Carl


Regards
Dave


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problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to 
download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and 
the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files 
page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that 
doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.


When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily 
in static offline mode.

But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.

Anybody else get this?

Thanks,
Carl


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Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13 released

[Carl Marcum]

Hello OpenOffice community.

We want to thank everyone who helped make this release happen.

Best regards,
Carl
(on behalf of the OpenOffice PMC)



22 July 2022 - The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the 
release of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13.


Apache OpenOffice is a popular Open Source office document productivity 
suite available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.


Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13 is a Security release incorporating bug fixes 
and other enhancements.


This release also includes the latest dictionaries.  All users of Apache 
OpenOffice 4.1.12 or earlier are advised to upgrade.


For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4113changes

Full version of this announcement:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4113announcement

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13 Release Notes:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4113releasenotes

Download the source:
https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html

Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13 from the original source only:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Marcus and Arrigo,

On 7/18/22 5:26 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Dear All,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 07:03:09PM +0200, Marcus wrote:


Am 16.07.22 um 15:38 schrieb Carl Marcum:

[...Carl's version]

For the blog post I propose adding this text after the second paragraph.

If you reference the 4.1.12 release blog post [1] this would replace the
sentence about the dedication to Jörg in 4.1.12.

---
It is always a good idea to backup your OpenOffice user profile before
an upgrade. It is especially important during this upgrade for users who
use the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older
version later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in
this 4.1.13 release that may make your user profile unusable for
previous versions.

[... Marcus' version ]

thanks for the text. IMHO The priority #1 should be the hint why this time a
backup is recommended. Therefore I suggest to switch the order:

1. Backup due to this release
2. Backup is always a good idea.

What do you think about this?



It is recommended to make a backup of the Apache OpenOffice users profile
before installing AOO 4.1.13. It is especially important for users who use
the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older version
later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in this 4.1.13
release that may make your user profile unusable for previous versions.

In general, it is always a good idea to do a backup of important and
personal data, so we recommend to always backup your OpenOffice user profile
before doing an upgrade to a newer release.

I personally like Carl's version best, but both are good IMHO.

I would like to suggest we only put these paragraphs (either Marcus'
or Carl's version) on the blog post and emails.

More details on the user profile (the list of directories for
different OSes) IMHO do not fit a blog post or an email for ``general
users''. I would rather only expect to see them on the release notes,
that can ``get more technical''.

I.e. this text:


Users can backup their profile by copying these directories:

Linux: /home//.openoffice
Windows 10: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice
Earlier Windows: \Documents and Settings\\Application
Data\OpenOffice
macOS: /Users//Library/Application Support/OpenOffice

More information about the users profile is in the support forum:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426

Is very good (thank you Marcus) but I would like to see it only in the
release notes.

Just my two cents.

Best regards,


Marcus I like your changes better and also Arrigo, your suggestion of 
leaving the file paths and forum link for the release notes.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Maybe others will also have opinions about both.

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

On 7/15/22 2:52 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi Marcus and All,

On 7/15/22 2:04 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 15.07.22 um 10:47 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 07/15/2022 2:26 AM WEST Carl Marcum  wrote:



As it seems the AOO 4.1.13 RC1 vote may pass (hopefully soon ), I'm
working on the announce email and blog post.

Since the .openoffice user profile is not backward compatible with
previous 4.1 versions for stored passwords, should we place a warning
for users to back up up their user profile  in the announce email, 
blog

post, release notes, etc. or not necessary?


If we do mention it, we have to make perfectly clear that this will 
only affect users that enabled the "Openoffice dialog" AND have set 
a "Master password".
These are two options that are NOT enabled by default so only 
advanced users would use both.


That said, for those users, they have to realize that they MUST make 
a backup before updating IF they intend to downgrade AOO at any 
point (which is also something common users don't do...)


I hope such a warning is not confusing/worrying for common users...


you have good ideas what the text should contain. Would you like to 
try to write a paragraph? We all can then see what needs to be added.


My thoughts are using the announcement Blog post and the Release notes 
and not the emails.


I can draft the paragraph but I don't know all the file paths to the 
profile. Mainly Mac since I don't have one.


I think it is basically a warning targeted to users whom us a master 
password.


I'll reply with a draft and hopefully someone can fill that part in 
for me.


Thanks,
Carl


Thanks

Marcus

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For the blog post I propose adding this text after the second paragraph.

If you reference the 4.1.12 release blog post [1] this would replace the 
sentence about the dedication to Jörg in 4.1.12.


---
It is always a good idea to backup your OpenOffice user profile before 
an upgrade. It is especially important during this upgrade for users who 
use the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older 
version later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in 
this 4.1.13 release that may make your user profile unusable for 
previous versions.

Users can backup their profile by copying these directories:

Linux: /home//.openoffice
Windows 10: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice
Earlier Windows ??
MacOS: TBD
---

Feel free to make other suggestions and provide any missing user profile 
paths.


[1] https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffice-4-18

Thanks,
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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Marcus and All,

On 7/15/22 2:04 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 15.07.22 um 10:47 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 07/15/2022 2:26 AM WEST Carl Marcum  wrote:



As it seems the AOO 4.1.13 RC1 vote may pass (hopefully soon ), I'm
working on the announce email and blog post.

Since the .openoffice user profile is not backward compatible with
previous 4.1 versions for stored passwords, should we place a warning
for users to back up up their user profile  in the announce email, blog
post, release notes, etc. or not necessary?


If we do mention it, we have to make perfectly clear that this will 
only affect users that enabled the "Openoffice dialog" AND have set a 
"Master password".
These are two options that are NOT enabled by default so only 
advanced users would use both.


That said, for those users, they have to realize that they MUST make 
a backup before updating IF they intend to downgrade AOO at any point 
(which is also something common users don't do...)


I hope such a warning is not confusing/worrying for common users...


you have good ideas what the text should contain. Would you like to 
try to write a paragraph? We all can then see what needs to be added.


My thoughts are using the announcement Blog post and the Release notes 
and not the emails.


I can draft the paragraph but I don't know all the file paths to the 
profile. Mainly Mac since I don't have one.


I think it is basically a warning targeted to users whom us a master 
password.


I'll reply with a draft and hopefully someone can fill that part in for me.

Thanks,
Carl


Thanks

Marcus

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[DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

As it seems the AOO 4.1.13 RC1 vote may pass (hopefully soon ), I'm 
working on the announce email and blog post.


Since the .openoffice user profile is not backward compatible with 
previous 4.1 versions for stored passwords, should we place a warning 
for users to back up up their user profile  in the announce email, blog 
post, release notes, etc. or not necessary?


Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.13-RC1 as GA

[Carl Marcum]

On 7/5/22 7:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

I am calling a VOTE on releasing the source and complimentary community builds 
of
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.13-RC1 as GA.

These artifacts can be found at:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.13-RC1/

Please cast your vote:



The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:

[X] yes / +1

[ ] no / -1

My vote is based on

[X] binding (member of PMC)

[X] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [ Linux 
x86-64 (CentOS 7) ]


[X] I have tested the binary RC on platform [Windows 10, Linux x86-64 
(CentOS 7 & 8) ]


I used the en-US rpm install for Linux and the en-US exe for Windows and 
also installed the SDK for both platforms.


Verified checksums and signatures for these binaries and source tarballs.

Verified LICENSE and NOTICE files in source.

Besides the usual testing of existing documents and creating new 
documents, I ran through an automated test program below.


--- Automated test results ---
Now that the tests in trunk are standalone I'm running them on systems I 
can't build on also.


I ran the automated Build Verification (49 tests) and the Functional 
Verification (749 tests) on Windows 10, CentOS 7 & 8.
My CentOS 7 machine is the one that runs the tests the best based on 
screen resolution and color settings and what this report is based on.
Due to still having a few tests that randomly fail due to timing or 
other issues I ran each suite 3 times.



Summary:
BVT tests
48 out of 49 passed all three runs. 1 test failed 2 runs and passed once.

FVT Tests
741 out of 749 passed all three runs.
Only 1 test failed all three times and it is due to the test and not the 
office.
fvt.uno.sc.sheet.SheetBasicTest.insertSheetFromfile - failed due to a 
timeout where a okay to update link dialog isn't okayed by the test. 
(I'm working on fixing this test soon).



--- Additional Testing ---
I verified the re-encoding of the master and stored passwords and it 
worked as expected.


Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [Discuss] Vote on Release AOO 4.1.13-RC1 as GA

[Carl Marcum]

On 7/10/22 4:51 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi All,

Checking the signature on the windows binaries I get Matthias's 
signature and not Jim's (the Release Manager).

The policy states [1] :
"All supplied packages MUST be cryptographically signed by the Release 
Manager with a detached signature."


I understand the logistics and that Matthias built the Windows 
binaries and signed them.

Maybe we could consider Matthias Co-Release manager for this purpose ?

[1] https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-signing

Best regards,
Carl

Or is it because these are convenience binaries it's different than the 
source "official" release?


Thanks,
Carl


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Re: [Discuss] Vote on Release AOO 4.1.13-RC1 as GA

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

Checking the signature on the windows binaries I get Matthias's 
signature and not Jim's (the Release Manager).

The policy states [1] :
"All supplied packages MUST be cryptographically signed by the Release 
Manager with a detached signature."


I understand the logistics and that Matthias built the Windows binaries 
and signed them.

Maybe we could consider Matthias Co-Release manager for this purpose ?

[1] https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-signing

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [DISCUSS] Preparing for 4.1.13 RC

[Carl Marcum]

Great!

On 7/2/22 1:54 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi,

all binaries for RC1 should be uploaded now:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.13-RC1/

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 01.07.22 um 21:41 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Keith,

Am 01.07.22 um 20:46 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Matthias Seidel wrote:

Am 01.07.22 um 10:34 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi all,

I have just updated the English dictionary, so I think we are ready
for RC1.

Of course I did not update the dictionary, I just committed the change
for it. Marco did it, as always! ;-)



Mathias;

Do we know which of the 6 languages were actually updated? I suspect
en-GB, and possibly en_US.

It's en-GB only.

Regards,

     Matthias

Thanks Mathias, will add that to the release notes.



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I think we need to properly warn people in the RC announcement about 
backing up their AOO user profile due to backward compatibility issues.

At least those that utilize that functionality.

Also release notes, etc.

Best regards,
Carl


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[DISCUSS] Preparing for 4.1.13 RC

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

We are preparing a release candidate for 4.1.13.
We are tracking release progress and volunteers on the planning cwiki 
AOO 4.1.13 page [1].

Some tasks can use more than one volunteer, especially QA.

If you have any questions or would like to discuss this release topic 
this is the place :)


[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.13

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [DISCUSS] Fixes for Basic lang in 4.1 line

[Carl Marcum]

On 6/9/22 11:46 AM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi All,

I have a PR-150 [1] that fixes a few issues with the Basic lang in 
AOO41X.

These were fixes by Damjan back in 2015 in trunk and AOO42X.

What I'm not sure is if leaving them out of 4.1.x was intentional or 
not due to not wanting to change API's or whatever.
To me these seem more like bug fixes and not API changes so I think we 
should bring them in.


The third issue was pointed out on the QA list recently by Lucien 
Mathay **so I included it as well. [2].
The example provided was the inspiration for the unit test I included 
for it.


One fix is a bug in the CLng (convert to Long) function and the other 
two fix issues with single line if statements.


For discussion:
Should we included these fixes in 4.1.x?


[1] https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/150
[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/hx09t5f4c4jt3x3fxn5sfkj2g0q9d56w

Best regards,
Carl



Based on the positive responses thus far I'm going to pull them in.
Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [DISCUSS] Fixes for Basic lang in 4.1 line

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Damjan,

On 6/9/22 1:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 5:46 PM Carl Marcum  wrote:


For discussion:
Should we included these fixes in 4.1.x?


The only reason I didn't include them myself, is that back then I expected
4.2.0 to be out soon, and didn't want to waste time backporting to 4.1.x
which was about to be EOL.


Thanks for the explanation!

I just wanted to make sure there wasn't another reason.

Best regards,
Carl



Regards
Damjan




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[DISCUSS] Fixes for Basic lang in 4.1 line

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

I have a PR-150 [1] that fixes a few issues with the Basic lang in AOO41X.
These were fixes by Damjan back in 2015 in trunk and AOO42X.

What I'm not sure is if leaving them out of 4.1.x was intentional or not 
due to not wanting to change API's or whatever.
To me these seem more like bug fixes and not API changes so I think we 
should bring them in.


The third issue was pointed out on the QA list recently by Lucien Mathay 
**so I included it as well. [2].
The example provided was the inspiration for the unit test I included 
for it.


One fix is a bug in the CLng (convert to Long) function and the other 
two fix issues with single line if statements.


For discussion:
Should we included these fixes in 4.1.x?


[1] https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/150
[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/hx09t5f4c4jt3x3fxn5sfkj2g0q9d56w

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: How to get debug information (Java, oxt)

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Rony,

On 6/6/22 10:15 AM, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:

Hi Carl,

On 6/4/2022 3:31 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
... cut ...

Am 03.10.21 um 15:12 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:

Searched on the Internet but found no pointers so asking here.

Problem: something goes wrong while registering a Java based 
extension (an oxt ), but no information

is supplied.

Question: how to get debug (logging) information from a Java based 
extension? Maybe with a Java

stacktrace?

---rony

P.S.: Could find the cause in the oxt, but this was really quite 
time consuming (and therefore
effortful). Some new Java code caused a Runtime exception such that 
the registering of the oxt could
not conclude; it would have helped a lot, if the Runtime exception 
was supplied rather an empty

message was given (using unopkg from the commandline).

So the error is during unopkg and not when using the installed 
extension correct?

Yes.
For runtime errors on Linux I start the office from the command line 
and you can println output to it from the extension.


Thank you very much for this hint!

Are you using the --verbose option when using unopkg from the command 
line?


Yes.

As mentioned in the other reply, one of my problems is that in order 
to quickly get (re-)adjusted to this infrastructure (being away 
because of other efforts for quite some time in between activities) I 
would need some short, functional examples (like a nutshell extension 
in Java with proper packaging to become able to experiment with both, 
the Java code and the packaging, hoping to develop a conceptual model 
by doing so). It may be the case that these samples exist, but that I 
have not found them. So any hint or link to such (Java) nutshell 
examples would be great as they probably help a lot getting afloat 
quickly.


It might be a larger example that what you're looking for but take a 
look at my openoffice-groovy project [1] that adds Apache Groovy as a 
macro language.

There is also an OXT on the extensions site [2].

If you would rather have an basic stripped down extension example I can 
generate you one from my templates or guide you in setting up so you can 
generate your own addons and addins.


[1] https://github.com/cbmarcum/openoffice-groovy
[2] https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/groovy-scripting-openoffice


Best regards,
Carl



---rony



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Re: How to get debug information (Java, oxt)

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Rony,

On 6/4/22 1:40 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

I going through old emails and no one seems to answer you.

Can you describe your setup? OS, have you sdk installed?


All the best

Peter

Am 03.10.21 um 15:12 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:

Searched on the Internet but found no pointers so asking here.

Problem: something goes wrong while registering a Java based 
extension (an oxt ), but no information

is supplied.

Question: how to get debug (logging) information from a Java based 
extension? Maybe with a Java

stacktrace?

---rony

P.S.: Could find the cause in the oxt, but this was really quite time 
consuming (and therefore
effortful). Some new Java code caused a Runtime exception such that 
the registering of the oxt could
not conclude; it would have helped a lot, if the Runtime exception 
was supplied rather an empty

message was given (using unopkg from the commandline).



So the error is during unopkg and not when using the installed extension 
correct?


For runtime errors on Linux I start the office from the command line and 
you can println output to it from the extension.


Are you using the --verbose option when using unopkg from the command line?

Thanks,
Carl


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Re: translation Server move and update

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Peter,

On 5/26/22 1:53 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hello all,


Please note that there are works coming up. I plan to do 2 Steps. Each 
seperated one from another.


1. Pootle will be moved to a new machine (No change in address)

2. Pootle update. ( I would like to upgrade the software to a new, if 
possible latest version)



I plan to do one after another. And I hope I can announce a test for 
Step 1.


This is an unrelated process to other Issues we have. So please keep 
them separated.



All the best

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Thanks for notice and your work on this!

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Re: translation Server move and update

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Peter,

On 5/26/22 1:53 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hello all,


Please note that there are works coming up. I plan to do 2 Steps. Each 
seperated one from another.


1. Pootle will be moved to a new machine (No change in address)

2. Pootle update. ( I would like to upgrade the software to a new, if 
possible latest version)



I plan to do one after another. And I hope I can announce a test for 
Step 1.


This is an unrelated process to other Issues we have. So please keep 
them separated.



All the best

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Re: Windows version: ProgIDs and typelibs for OLE/COM ?

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Rony,

On 5/5/22 6:31 AM, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:

Curious about the Windows version of AOO and its support via OLE/COM:

 * What are the ProgIds to use to automate AOO? Found the following 
ones with "office", "star" in them:


   G:\tmp\orx\ole\oleinfo\work>listProgIds.rex office
   #  415/2226: ProgId: [Dropbox.OfficeAddIn]
   #  815/2226: ProgId: [Lync.UCOfficeIntegration]
   #  918/2226: ProgId: [Microsoft.Office.List.OLEDB]
   # 1193/2226: ProgId: [OcOffice.FormRegionContext]
   # 1194/2226: ProgId: [OcOffice.OcForms]
   # 1195/2226: ProgId: [OcOffice.OneNoteHelper]
   # 1196/2226: ProgId: [Office.awsdc]
   # 1197/2226: ProgId: [Office.LocalSyncClient]
   # 1198/2226: ProgId: [OfficeCompatible.Application.x86]
   # 1199/2226: ProgId: [OfficeTheme]
   # 1278/2226: ProgId: [PDFMaker.OfficeAddin]
   # 1560/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarCalcDocument.6]
   # 1561/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarDrawDocument.6]
   # 1562/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarImpressDocument.6]
   # 1563/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarMathDocument.6]
   # 1564/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarWriterDocument.6]
   # 1928/2226: ProgId: [TFCOfficeShim.Connect]
   # 1929/2226: ProgId: [TFCOfficeShim.ControlHost.14]
   # 1930/2226: ProgId: [TFCOfficeShim.GetAddIn]

   G:\tmp\orx\ole\oleinfo\work>listProgIds.rex star
   #  175/2226: ProgId: [bhWM2Core.ctlServerStartscreen]
   #  179/2226: ProgId: [bhWM2Core.ctlStartscreen]
   #  319/2226: ProgId: [com.sun.star.ServiceManager]
   #  772/2226: ProgId: [JavaWebStart.isInstalled]
   # 1560/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarCalcDocument.6]
   # 1561/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarDrawDocument.6]
   # 1562/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarImpressDocument.6]
   # 1563/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarMathDocument.6]
   # 1564/2226: ProgId: [soffice.StarWriterDocument.6]

   Trying to get at the published interfaces for e.g. 
"soffice.StarWriterDocument.6" does not
   return any published methods, properties, events and constants as 
is the case with MS Office. So
   wondering whether there are other ProgIDs for AOO on Windows 
registered that one should use
   instead? (Usually there are version independent ProgIDs which seems 
to not be the case here.)


 * Is there an AOO typelib available that would supply the published 
interfaces usable via OLE? If

   so what would be the name and how would one install them?

---rony




This may not be what you're looking for but I found this about an OLE 
bridge [1].

From the spec...
"The bridge is automatically used when someone access the Office through 
the COM mechanism. This is done by creating the service manager 
component, that has the ProgId "com.sun.star.ServiceManager". The 
service manager can then be used to create additional UNO services. 
There is no explicit mapping from COM to UNO or vice versa necessary. 
All objects which have been obtained directly or indirectly from the 
service manager are already COM objects. "


[1] https://www.openoffice.org/udk/common/man/spec/ole_bridge.html

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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Carl Marcum]

Thanks to everyone involved in the forums migration.

Best regards,
Carl

On 5/4/22 7:06 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:

Maintenance on the Forums is completed!

The Forums are now at phpBB 3.3.7 which was released March 17, 2023. The prior 
version was 3.0.9 released July 10, 2011.

Very, very happy. Future updates should be much easier. I will follow up with 
the Forum sysadmins on these issues:

1. The Italian Forum has a weird display issues. I think that a post will need 
to be regenerated.
2. We need to find forum administrators to replace imacat for each forum.
3. I will need to document the process, customizations and migration steps.

But I’ll need a few days away.

ATB,
Dave


On May 4, 2022, at 7:38 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Https://forum.openoffice.org is now offline with a simple page to checkbook 
later..


On May 4, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:




On May 4, 2022, at 1:14 AM, David Robley  wrote:

Registration works OK; I registered a new user, got the activation email and 
activated the account. Then posted a first message and (as moderator) approved 
it, but I _did not_ get the email advising of approval although the post was 
cleared. I did check junk as that was where the activation email ended up :-).

There is an apparent inconsistency on the mod control panel; some recent events 
that are displayed under the Moderator Logs tab do not appear under the Main 
tab.

While I'm on the topic, is there any chance the change to the search page I 
mentioned at 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105949#p515320 might be 
implemented?

Done! Try it on the EN forum and I’ll propagate to the others.


And, pushing my (our?) luck even more, the extensions Banhammer and stopforumspam 
mentioned in 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104=96141#p513871

We’re going to need to take full control of the forum sysadmin role once the 
migration is completed.


On 5/2/22 17:28, Dave Fisher wrote:

The en and fr forums are available to test:

https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/

Please test these forums.

Known work to do:
- Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
- Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
- Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.

The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite some 
time.

ATB,
Dave


On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Apologies for the late communication.

The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7.

Differences so far:
1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
4. /style.php is no longer included.
5. /app.php is new.
6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French forum.
7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
rel=“alternate” to one of the links.

This doesn’t seem bad.
Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.

I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.

Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:

1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
3. Forum databases will be updated
4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.

Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
OpenOffice committers may request access.

A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.

I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to answer any 
questions.

ATB,
Dave


On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Hello all,


please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum
Modification ported.

The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until
the end of the same day.


All the best

Peter


Possible typo?  March in place of May?

Thanks Rory, It is May. My mistake.

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Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 released

[Carl Marcum]

Hello OpenOffice community.

We want to thank everyone who helped make this release happen.

Best regards,
Carl
(on behalf of the OpenOffice PMC)


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:[ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 released
Date:   Wed, 4 May 2022 18:24:00 -0400
From:   Carl Marcum 
Organization:   Apache Software Foundation
To: annou...@openoffice.apache.org



04 May 2022 - The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the 
release of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12.


This release is dedicated to Jörg Schmidt, who was a valued contributor 
to the project and suddenly passed away at the end of last year.


Apache OpenOffice is a popular Open Source office document productivity 
suite available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.


Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 is a maintenance release incorporating bug 
fixes and other enhancements.


This release also includes the latest dictionaries.  All users of Apache 
OpenOffice 4.1.11 or earlier are advised to upgrade.


For the complete overview see the list in Bugzilla:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4112changes

Full version of this announcement:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4112announcement

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 Release Notes:
https://s.apache.org/AOO-4112releasenotes

Download the source:
https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html

Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 from the original source only:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Follow Apache OpenOffice:
Twitter   https://twitter.com/apacheoo
Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO
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Re: Wiki transfere to the new server, urgend

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Peter,

On 4/28/22 1:17 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hello all,


Can some of you check shortly the new Wiki on [1] that the add ons and 
other stuff that made issues in the past are working?


The DB is not in sync with the live system. And I have not changed 
anything software side.


so it should not a big issue. But before we shut down current 
production, please have a quick look.



We want to switch as fast as possible. sorry for the haste. :/

[1] https://wikinew.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page


All the best

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I just checked some of the pages in the developer guide we had trouble 
with in the past that used the IDL Tags extension for links to the API's 
that caused blank pages and the fix still works here.

From what I can tell going through the developer guide it looks good.

Best regards,
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Re: [CLOSED] Re: [VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.12-RC1 as GA

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

Sorry I'm a little behind on the blog draft and announcement email drafts.
I'll get something together tonight and tomorrow.

Best regards,
Carl

On 4/26/22 3:00 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Jim,

Signed Windows binaries are uploaded now.

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 26.04.22 um 16:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Jim,

Am 26.04.22 um 15:24 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

I was hoping for more testing and feedback, but we have rec'd the necessary 
number of
binding votes, and so this VOTE PASSES.

Yes, I also hoped for more...

However, I will start to sign the Windows binaries and upload them later
to dist/dev.

Regards,

    Matthias


On Apr 13, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

I am calling a VOTE on releasing the source and complimentary community builds 
of
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12-RC1 as GA.

These artifacts can be found at:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.12-RC1/

Please cast your vote:

The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:

[ ] yes / +1

[ ] no / -1

My vote is based on

[ ] binding (member of PMC)

[ ] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [ ]

[ ] I have tested the binary RC on platform [ ]

This vote will be open for 7 days to allow for sufficient time
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Re: Bugzilla list_id parameter in URL question

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Marcus and All,

On 4/21/22 4:15 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 21.04.22 um 14:57 schrieb Carl Marcum:
Does anyone know what the list_id parameter is for in the URL after a 
search?


[...]


I did a quick search with Google (bugzilla url list_id) and found this 
as first hit:


https://support-bugzilla.mozilla.narkive.com/jXnwYmle/purpose-of-list-id-url-parameter 



HTH

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So it seems the list_id may be a saved result, meaning if something 
happens to an issue that would change the search result list it would 
not be updated when using the list_id in a URL.
You have to do a new search or not include the list_id in the URL to get 
the current results.

At least that is the way I'm understanding it.

Now my questions is:
When we provide a URL like this in a release blog post or announcement 
should we do a new search and use the list_id in the URL so we have a 
snapshot in time or

not include it so each user gets an up-to-date result?

For example, if an issue is changed from fixed to reopened, do we want 
that issue to appear in the list after that or not?


It might be easier on the database if we use the list_id at release time 
so everyone that follows the link isn't creating a new entry as long as 
we're okay with the snapshot in time list.


Thanks,
Carl


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Bugzilla list_id parameter in URL question

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

Does anyone know what the list_id parameter is for in the URL after a 
search?


For example:

If I do an advanced search for issues fixed in 4.1.12 milestone I get 
this for a URL:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?list_id=249822_format=advanced=FIXED=FIXED_WITHOUT_CODE_milestone=4.1.12

If I do it again I get a different list_id.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?list_id=249823_format=advanced=FIXED=FIXED_WITHOUT_CODE_milestone=4.1.12

If I remove it like this and use it:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced=FIXED=FIXED_WITHOUT_CODE_milestone=4.1.12
I get a new list_id again.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?list_id=249824_format=advanced=FIXED=FIXED_WITHOUT_CODE_milestone=4.1.12

If I reuse a previous one with the list_id it stays the same.

Are these result lists stored in the database or something?

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.12-RC1 as GA

[Carl Marcum]

The Release Candidate is good for production/GA:

[X] yes / +1

[ ] no / -1

My vote is based on

[X] binding (member of PMC)

[X] I have built and tested the RC from source on platform [ Linux x86-64 
(CentOS 7) ]

[X] I have tested the binary RC on platform [Windows 10, Linux x86-64 (CentOS 7 
& 8) ]

I used the en-US rpm install for Linux and the en-US exe for Windows and 
also installed the SDK for both platforms.


Verified checksums and signatures for these binaries and source tarballs.

Besides the usual testing of existing documents and creating new 
documents, I ran through an automated test program below.


--- Automated test results ---
Now that the tests in trunk are standalone I'm running them on systems I 
can't build on also.


I ran the automated Build Verification (49 tests) and the Functional 
Verification (744 tests) on Windows 10, CentOS 7 & 8.
Due to still having a few tests that randomly fail due to timing or 
other issues I ran each suite 3 times.


Summary:
Only 3 tests failed all three times and these are issues with the tests 
themselves and not the office.


Details:
Test method bvt.gui.BasicFunctionTest.testFind had an assertion 
inadvertently changed during a spell checking cleanup causing it to fail.

I've have a fix for it that I'll commit in a while.

Test method fvt.uno.sc.formula.TestFormulaDocs.testFormulaDocs has a 
test document "uno/sc/fvt/Basic Line as variable and Line Input.ods"
that tests a fix for Basic macros with single line IF statements from 
commit 725d867 that was never back-ported to AOO41X.


Test method fvt.uno.sc.sheet.SheetBasicTest.insertSheetFromfile must be 
a known failure because it has a comment:

// FIXME: locks up on update link confirmation dialog.
which causes a timeout failure.

Other than that everything looks fine.

Best regards,
Carl



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Re: Mwiki is very slow

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Keith,

On 4/17/22 4:20 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
THe mwiki is very slow this afternoon from western Massachusetts. 
Often will not open at all as it keeps timing out.


Regards
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It opens quickly for me in Ohio right now.

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Re: Building 4.1.12-RC1 Linux x86

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo,

On 4/17/22 9:25 AM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Dear Jim, All,

I cannot build the current RC on my CentOS 5 VM (x86, 32 bit) using
the build script from Subversion.

The configure script aborts because it cannot find the gio library:

8<8<8<8<8<8<8<-
checking whether to enable GIO support... yes
checking for GIO... no
configure: error: Package requirements (gio-2.0 ) were not met:

No package 'gio-2.0' found
8<8<8<8<8<8<8<-

Maybe we should add the parameters --enable-gnome-vfs and --disable-gio
to the script, because of commit 16f572b ?

Please let me know if there are any better solutions.

Best regards,


It isn't a requirement to test build on CentOS 5 just because that is 
our official build platform.

I gave up on it years ago.

I test build on CentOS 7 and Ubuntu 18.04 for example and modify the 
build configure to suit my systems.


Apologies if you were aware and just like the challenge :)

Best regards,
Carl

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Re: [DISCUSS] [QA AUTOMATION] merging standalone-test branch into trunk

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Damjan,

On 4/3/22 9:34 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 9:44 PM Carl Marcum  wrote:


Hi All,


Hi

I want to get some opinions on whether to merge my work on standalone

test automation into trunk and possibly AOO42X and AOO41X or leave it in
a branch and use it from there.
Six months ago I posted this [1] on qa@ and cc'd this list about the
work and haven't got any negative feedback so far.

Since this is a larger architectural issue that may affect someone who
runs the test suites after a build with some sort of scripts I wanted to
discuss it.
As I don't know if or how everyone uses them I wanted to give everyone
an opportunity to comment.

For those not familiar, this change allows anyone with Ant and Java to
compile and run the automated test suites without having first needed to
build the complete office from source as long as they have an office
with an sdk installed. This can be a conventional installation or by
having built the "installed" package from source and copied it to a
folder and the sdk into it.
For instance, this allows me to run tests on Windows and CentOS 8 even
though I don't have a build environments for them like I do for multiple
Linux versions.

Basically this change is in where the Java UNO jars and other
dependencies like javamaker, remerge, and idlc tools are found for test
compilation . I've changed it from the build output directories to the
target office and sdk instead.


Yes, that's a great idea.



Since they are standalone from the build, the test directory can be
copied separately and used from another location so it's not dependent
on which branch it's used from unless a test is added that is branch
specific like testing something that only exists in AOO42X or trunk.
Technically it could be in another Git repo even.

I'd like to propose some options in the order I prefer and get some
opinions.

1. Merge standalone-test branch into trunk and cherry-pick it into
AOO41X and AOO42X.  After that, any new tests that don't apply to AOO41X
stay in trunk and AOO42X as appropriate but as of now all tests apply.
This option seems to require the least maintenance after the merge and
allows you to use from which ever branch is checked out to align with
what you want to test.

2. Merge standalone-test branch into trunk only.  Any test work after
that wouldn't be affected by whether they are standalone or not. As
mentioned before the test directory is not dependent on the build
version (yet anyway) but this could change if tests are added that don't
apply to AOO41X for instance. At that point some tests not intended for
AOO41X would cause problems.

3. Leave standalone-test in it's own branch. This is more of a
maintenance issue as work done here needs picked into more branches but
it is an option.


I think (2) is best. Tests sensitive to the AOO version can check the
version themselves.



[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/v6bnty1qxho4o5hmt4pg0rw00yxzrhx8

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Carl



Damjan


Thanks for the feedback!

I'll put together a PR for trunk and give it a few days before merging it.

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: 4.1.12-dev developer test builds...

[Carl Marcum]

+1

On 4/7/22 5:21 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Jim,

Am 05.04.22 um 14:44 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

Are we ready for a RC1?

So, basically only three person are interested in a new release... :-(

Still, we should just go ahead and build RC1.

Regards,

    Matthias


On Mar 27, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Hi Jim,

Am 25.03.22 um 13:24 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

... Are available at

   http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/

Thanks!

I tested your builds on Ubuntu 16.04 (64bit) and macOS 12. Working as
expected.


Assuming these look good, we can progress to an RC1

Given that there was not so much response until now I would propose to
wait some more days...

That way people get the opportunity to test the builds and we also could
integrate the latest English dictionary on Tuesday(?).

My latest build for Windows can be found here:

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.12_Win_x86_install_en-US_Test.exe

Looking forward to more feedback!

Regards,

Matthias


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[DISCUSS] [QA AUTOMATION] merging standalone-test branch into trunk

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

I want to get some opinions on whether to merge my work on standalone 
test automation into trunk and possibly AOO42X and AOO41X or leave it in 
a branch and use it from there.
Six months ago I posted this [1] on qa@ and cc'd this list about the 
work and haven't got any negative feedback so far.


Since this is a larger architectural issue that may affect someone who 
runs the test suites after a build with some sort of scripts I wanted to 
discuss it.
As I don't know if or how everyone uses them I wanted to give everyone 
an opportunity to comment.


For those not familiar, this change allows anyone with Ant and Java to 
compile and run the automated test suites without having first needed to 
build the complete office from source as long as they have an office 
with an sdk installed. This can be a conventional installation or by 
having built the "installed" package from source and copied it to a 
folder and the sdk into it.
For instance, this allows me to run tests on Windows and CentOS 8 even 
though I don't have a build environments for them like I do for multiple 
Linux versions.


Basically this change is in where the Java UNO jars and other 
dependencies like javamaker, remerge, and idlc tools are found for test 
compilation . I've changed it from the build output directories to the 
target office and sdk instead.


Since they are standalone from the build, the test directory can be 
copied separately and used from another location so it's not dependent 
on which branch it's used from unless a test is added that is branch 
specific like testing something that only exists in AOO42X or trunk. 
Technically it could be in another Git repo even.


I'd like to propose some options in the order I prefer and get some 
opinions.


1. Merge standalone-test branch into trunk and cherry-pick it into 
AOO41X and AOO42X.  After that, any new tests that don't apply to AOO41X 
stay in trunk and AOO42X as appropriate but as of now all tests apply. 
This option seems to require the least maintenance after the merge and 
allows you to use from which ever branch is checked out to align with 
what you want to test.


2. Merge standalone-test branch into trunk only.  Any test work after 
that wouldn't be affected by whether they are standalone or not. As 
mentioned before the test directory is not dependent on the build 
version (yet anyway) but this could change if tests are added that don't 
apply to AOO41X for instance. At that point some tests not intended for 
AOO41X would cause problems.


3. Leave standalone-test in it's own branch. This is more of a 
maintenance issue as work done here needs picked into more branches but 
it is an option.


[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/v6bnty1qxho4o5hmt4pg0rw00yxzrhx8

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Carl

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Re: AOO 4.1.12?

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

On 3/16/22 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Thanks! I volunteer to RM. Is that OK?

+1

Thanks Jim !

I volunteered for release announcement emails and blog post.
I could also mentor if someone new wanted to try it :)

Also for general QA and I'll report on results of automated tests.
I can also work on specific test cases if some are needed.

Best regards,
Carl



On Mar 15, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Hi all,

Just FYI, I created a Release Schedule for AOO 4.1.12:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.12

Feel free to update!

Regards,

Matthias




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Re: Is the enclosed still true for AOO 4.1.x Impress

[Carl Marcum]

On 3/15/22 2:45 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi Keith,

On 3/15/22 1:37 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 09.03.22 um 22:45 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

The Chapter on Impress in the Getting Started Guide
contains the following note for using media files in Linix
based systems:

In Linux-based systems such as Ubuntu, media files do not
work straight out of the box. You need to download the
Java Media Framework API (JMF) and add the path to jmf.jar
to the Class Path in Tools > Options > OpenOffice > Java.

Is this still true for 4.1.x versions of AOO.

It's true that media doesn't work out of the box on any Linux I have.

I haven't tried to set it up but I will and let you know.

Best regards,
Carl



unfortunately, I've no experience with video or sound files in 
presentations on Linux.


Maybe other people can tell their experiences?


I'm using the Java Media Framework 2.1.1e.

Not sure I've installed it correctly yet.
I keep getting the format is unsupported errors inserting media files.

I'll follow up if that changes.

Best regards,
Carl



Thanks

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Re: Is the enclosed still true for AOO 4.1.x Impress

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Keith,

On 3/15/22 1:37 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 09.03.22 um 22:45 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

The Chapter on Impress in the Getting Started Guide
contains the following note for using media files in Linix
based systems:

In Linux-based systems such as Ubuntu, media files do not
work straight out of the box. You need to download the
Java Media Framework API (JMF) and add the path to jmf.jar
to the Class Path in Tools > Options > OpenOffice > Java.

Is this still true for 4.1.x versions of AOO.

It's true that media doesn't work out of the box on any Linux I have.

I haven't tried to set it up but I will and let you know.

Best regards,
Carl



unfortunately, I've no experience with video or sound files in 
presentations on Linux.


Maybe other people can tell their experiences?

Thanks

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Re: Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2022

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Michael,

On 3/14/22 5:31 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote:

Hello,

Mechtilde did a great job running the Apache OpenOffice (virtual) 
booth at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage this weekend.


On both days she has some usefull talks with users of free office suites.

Sje got an interesting feed back afterwards: AOO starts on a netbook 
considerably quicker and needs less ressources than LO. That is 
important for such a use case.


The workadventure was not so crowded as the real life event, but the 
Chemnitzer Linux-Tage are still one of the most important Free 
Software events in central Europe.


So it was good to have a (virtual) booth there; esp. because LO hasn't 
one, so users could get answers at our booth.


Kind regards
Michael
P. S.: Excuse my poor english.


Thanks for the update and to you and Mechtilde for representing AOO at 
the event.


Best regards,
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Re: problem reading old XML formats with trunk

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo and All,

On 2/18/22 4:03 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi Arrigo,

On 2/18/22 3:05 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Hello Carl, All,

On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 04:57:20PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:


Hello Carl, All,

I am branching the thread from here in order to prune less
interesting parts.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 10:12:05PM -0500, Carl Marcum wrote:


Hi All,

On 11/14/21 5:05 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 22:45 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,


On 11/14/21 11:44 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:31 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and All,

On 11/14/21 9:10 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

I only have a VM available with Xubuntu 18.04.6 and AOO42X, but
have no
problems opening and saving *.STW.

Okay I'll build AOO42X and see if I have same issues as trunk.

I recompiled trunk with
--enable-crashdump=yes \
--enable-dbgutil \

and now I get a better error dialog for opening these file types:
testSaveNewSTC.stc
testSaveNewSXC.sxc
--
Error: uno exception caught while importing:
attempt to insert duplicate XML tag attribute: xmlns:svg
   From File
/openoffice/main/sc/source/filter/xml/xmlwrap.cxx 
at

Line 365
Abort ? (Yes=abort / No=ignore / Cancel=core dump)

I remember that we have a commit in trunk but not in AOO42X:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/122

Until now it has not been tested... Maybe that is the problem?
I can confirm Read-Errors with AOO450 (trunk) on Windows with 
STW and

SXW.
No problems with AOO420 (AOO42X).

This merge may need to be reverted...

Thanks for checking.

It might be better at this point to fix the code.

That's why I asked for testing... ;-)

I'll do some bisecting and try to narrow it down.

I am not sure if the code was ready, Arrigo might know better.
I bisected it down to this one where it starts giving me the error 
which

makes sense according the the commit message:

ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b is the first bad commit
commit ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b

 Raise an exception when attempting to add duplicate attributes

The error is raised during parsing of file styles.xml, initial tag
, attribute
xmlns:svg="http://openoffice.org/2000/svg;

Method XMLDocumentTransformerContext_Impl::StartElement() considers
individual XML attributes and, at the end, it adds the ones it
considers missing.

The xmlns:svg is considered missing because it does not have the
expected _content_. Yes, the check is made on attribute contents,
rather than attribute names.

That attributs's content _should_ be the one indicated above, but the
caller method XMLTransformerBase::startElement() has _just changed its
content_ into
"urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:svg-compatible:1.0"

For this reason, method
XMLDocumentTransformerContext_Impl::StartElement() tries to re-add the
"xmlns:svg" element.

The first solutions that come into my mind are:

  1- have XMLDocumentTransformerContext_Impl::StartElement() consider
  element _names_ rather than values, or

  2- have XMLDocumentTransformerContext_Impl::StartElement() look for
  the ``changed'' content (urn:etcetera) instead of the ``original''
  one (http://Etcetera)

What is the best way to go?

I went for 2-

This problem should be fixed in trunk with commit
7462b7435704d287da295f8819ee4fd4bffded77


The tests on my trunk build now pass!



I could not run the tests, though, I think because they cannot
``type'' the string "@AOO" correctly.

My PC has an Italian keyboard, and I am seeing the tests type
  "AOO
instead of
  @AOO
maybe because the Italian layout has the quotes " above the 2 key?


That could be the reason.
Maybe somehow the test must use en-US localization or keyboard layout.
I'll have to put that on my list of thing to look into.



Best regards,

I will run the tests against it and report my results.


Reported above.

Thanks for the fix!

Best regards,
Carl



Thanks for working on this!

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Re: calc date search issue 60307 in AOO41X

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

On 2/18/22 4:16 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 18.02.22 um 22:08 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,

On 2/18/22 2:47 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 18.02.22 um 19:44 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Marcus,

On 2/18/22 1:32 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 18.02.22 um 00:15 schrieb Carl Marcum:

[...]

It looks like in 2015 Damjan provided one line fix and BVT test in
AOO42X and trunk with git commit 2e4d2335e [2] but it never made it
to the AOO41X branch.

I'm running a build of AOO41X with this fix included and if it's
successful and the tests pass I'll submit a PR.

sure, it's great to see that this is the only difference between all
branches. Please commit when you see that the fix is working.

I'm not sure this is the only difference.
I just wanted to address this one I found before continuing my
analysis.

If the commit works we should just cherry-pick it.

Yes if you prefer to do it that way it should be fine.
It cherry-picked into my fork fine.

The test results looked fine.
Do you want to pick it into AOO41X or do you want me to?

If you already have it at hand, please go ahead.

I was only going to PR because of the 7 years that went by since the
commit :)

I cherry-picked a one-liner for AOO41X recently that was from 2014. It
worked on trunk/AOO42X since then... ;-)

Regards,

    Matthias


Best regards,
Carl


Regards,

     Matthias


Best regards,
Carl

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I cherry picked it to AOO41X and it's commit 133efdc1 [1].

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/133efdc14496caaf90c15e33666ab1c0c1e2fbea


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Re: calc date search issue 60307 in AOO41X

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,

On 2/18/22 2:47 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 18.02.22 um 19:44 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Marcus,

On 2/18/22 1:32 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 18.02.22 um 00:15 schrieb Carl Marcum:

[...]

It looks like in 2015 Damjan provided one line fix and BVT test in
AOO42X and trunk with git commit 2e4d2335e [2] but it never made it
to the AOO41X branch.

I'm running a build of AOO41X with this fix included and if it's
successful and the tests pass I'll submit a PR.

sure, it's great to see that this is the only difference between all
branches. Please commit when you see that the fix is working.

I'm not sure this is the only difference.
I just wanted to address this one I found before continuing my analysis.

If the commit works we should just cherry-pick it.


Yes if you prefer to do it that way it should be fine.
It cherry-picked into my fork fine.

The test results looked fine.
Do you want to pick it into AOO41X or do you want me to?

I was only going to PR because of the 7 years that went by since the 
commit :)


Best regards,
Carl



Regards,

    Matthias


Best regards,
Carl

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Re: problem reading old XML formats with trunk

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo,

On 2/18/22 3:05 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Hello Carl, All,

On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 04:57:20PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:


Hello Carl, All,

I am branching the thread from here in order to prune less
interesting parts.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 10:12:05PM -0500, Carl Marcum wrote:


Hi All,

On 11/14/21 5:05 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 22:45 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,


On 11/14/21 11:44 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:31 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and All,

On 11/14/21 9:10 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

I only have a VM available with Xubuntu 18.04.6 and AOO42X, but
have no
problems opening and saving *.STW.

Okay I'll build AOO42X and see if I have same issues as trunk.

I recompiled trunk with
--enable-crashdump=yes \
--enable-dbgutil \

and now I get a better error dialog for opening these file types:
testSaveNewSTC.stc
testSaveNewSXC.sxc
--
Error: uno exception caught while importing:
attempt to insert duplicate XML tag attribute: xmlns:svg
   From File
/openoffice/main/sc/source/filter/xml/xmlwrap.cxx at
Line 365
Abort ? (Yes=abort / No=ignore / Cancel=core dump)

I remember that we have a commit in trunk but not in AOO42X:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/122

Until now it has not been tested... Maybe that is the problem?

I can confirm Read-Errors with AOO450 (trunk) on Windows with STW and
SXW.
No problems with AOO420 (AOO42X).

This merge may need to be reverted...

Thanks for checking.

It might be better at this point to fix the code.

That's why I asked for testing... ;-)

I'll do some bisecting and try to narrow it down.

I am not sure if the code was ready, Arrigo might know better.

I bisected it down to this one where it starts giving me the error which
makes sense according the the commit message:

ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b is the first bad commit
commit ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b

     Raise an exception when attempting to add duplicate attributes

The error is raised during parsing of file styles.xml, initial tag
, attribute
xmlns:svg="http://openoffice.org/2000/svg;

Method XMLDocumentTransformerContext_Impl::StartElement() considers
individual XML attributes and, at the end, it adds the ones it
considers missing.

The xmlns:svg is considered missing because it does not have the
expected _content_. Yes, the check is made on attribute contents,
rather than attribute names.

That attributs's content _should_ be the one indicated above, but the
caller method XMLTransformerBase::startElement() has _just changed its
content_ into
"urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:svg-compatible:1.0"

For this reason, method
XMLDocumentTransformerContext_Impl::StartElement() tries to re-add the
"xmlns:svg" element.

The first solutions that come into my mind are:

  1- have XMLDocumentTransformerContext_Impl::StartElement() consider
  element _names_ rather than values, or

  2- have XMLDocumentTransformerContext_Impl::StartElement() look for
  the ``changed'' content (urn:etcetera) instead of the ``original''
  one (http://Etcetera)

What is the best way to go?

I went for 2-

This problem should be fixed in trunk with commit
7462b7435704d287da295f8819ee4fd4bffded77

I could not run the tests, though, I think because they cannot
``type'' the string "@AOO" correctly.

My PC has an Italian keyboard, and I am seeing the tests type
  "AOO
instead of
  @AOO
maybe because the Italian layout has the quotes " above the 2 key?

Best regards,

I will run the tests against it and report my results.

Thanks for working on this!

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: calc date search issue 60307 in AOO41X

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Marcus,

On 2/18/22 1:32 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 18.02.22 um 00:15 schrieb Carl Marcum:

[...]

It looks like in 2015 Damjan provided one line fix and BVT test in 
AOO42X and trunk with git commit 2e4d2335e [2] but it never made it 
to the AOO41X branch.


I'm running a build of AOO41X with this fix included and if it's 
successful and the tests pass I'll submit a PR.


sure, it's great to see that this is the only difference between all 
branches. Please commit when you see that the fix is working.


I'm not sure this is the only difference.
I just wanted to address this one I found before continuing my analysis.

Best regards,
Carl


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calc date search issue 60307 in AOO41X

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

I've been running the tests suites from the standalone-test branch 
(based on trunk tests) against AOO41X, AOO42X, and trunk for comparisons 
and I found a test that fails only in AOO41X.

It's bvt.gui.BasicFunctionTest.testFindFormulasAndValues.

I tracked the test back to this issue in bugzilla i60307 [1].

This is a test for searching for part of a value in a formatted date cell.
To test this manually:

1. Open a new calc document in 4.1.x
2. Format cell A2 as a Date and set Language to "Default-English(USA)
   and select the second format in the list (Friday, December 31, 1999)
   which has a format code of " DD, ".
3. Enter "10/17/2003" in cell A2 and you should get "Friday, October
   17, 2003" in cell A2.
   (You may have to increase the width of the column)
4. Place cursor in cell A1 and open Find (ctrl-F)
5. In find dialog select "More Options -> Search in -> Values" and a
   search for "October" fails and it leaves the cursor in cell A1
   instead of finding cell A2.

It looks like in 2015 Damjan provided one line fix and BVT test in 
AOO42X and trunk with git commit 2e4d2335e [2] but it never made it to 
the AOO41X branch.


I'm running a build of AOO41X with this fix included and if it's 
successful and the tests pass I'll submit a PR.


Either way I'll update this thread.

[1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=60307

[2] 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/2e4d2335e101b0658cddb9e31f2fd229d84bfc1d


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Re: [DISCUSS] The Public Service Mission of Apache OpenOffice

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo,

I think it looks good also.
Thanks for starting the discussion!

Best regards,
Carl

On 2/17/22 8:30 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Arrigo, All,

Looks good to me!

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 15.02.22 um 20:30 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

The Apache OpenOffice PMC is calling all developers and users to
prepare the "Mission Statement" for the project.

A project’s mission statement is crucially important for defining both
the identity of the project and of the community that makes that
project a reality.

Our mission statement must outline the current state of the project
and its near and distant goals.

The "Apache Way" emphasizes that the community is more valued than the
software source code itself.

The current draft of the mission statement is here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/KALFAQ

The purpose of this [DISCUSS] thread is to get community feedback
before publishing the mission statement. We expect this discussion to
take not more than one week. This means that the mission statement
will be officially released on 22 February 2022 -- unless we find a
broad consensus on delaying it.

The discussion will take place on the development mailing list.
The list archives are public and anyone can subscribe to contribute:
https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#development-mailing-list-public

We look forward to your feedback!



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Re: Openssl, serf and curl... and NSS

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Jim,

On 2/14/22 10:04 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

The en-US version of a dev/test of AOO 4.1.12 can be found here: 
http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
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Are those linux builds 32 bit like the name implies?
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.12_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz 2022-02-14 
17:08     151M
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.12_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz 2022-02-14 
17:08     153M


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Re: OpenOffice wordmark exploration (yet without the "Apache" mention)

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Corentin,

On 2/12/22 1:45 PM, Corentin Verbrèghe wrote:

My project is to make OpenOffice better, more current, more cool. I wish
OpenOffice would come alive again.
Cordially.
Manjiro (Corentin)




I'm not sure what you are proposing to work on.
Is it a website, logos, the office program itself, or something else?

Maybe you could start by letting us know what you propose and why.

And we're very much not dead :)

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Carl



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Re: RV: Aranese Spell Checking in libreoffice

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,

Is there an AOO issue?
I don't understand.

Thanks,
Carl

On 2/10/22 3:20 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Anyone else?!

This issue is almost 7 years old now...

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 08.02.22 um 19:09 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

On 07.02.22 21:17, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi all,

Anyone who can help here?

Currently no clue. sorry.

Regards,

     Matthias

Am 30.01.22 um 12:01 schrieb Javier T:

Hi Matthias

I have been looking at the LibreOffice code and the Aranese language
is partially defined.

Is already defined

FILE ./svtools/inc/langtab.hrc
  { NC_("STR_ARR_SVT_LANGUAGE_TABLE", "Aranese") ,
LANGUAGE_USER_OCCITAN_ARANESE },

FILE ./include/i18nlangtag
#define LANGUAGE_USER_OCCITAN_ARANESE   LanguageType(0x8082)

Remains to be defined

FILE ./i18nlangtag/source/isolang
  { LANGUAGE_USER_OCCITAN_ARANESE,    "oc", "ES", k0    },

FILE ./i18npool/Library_localedata_es.mk
CustomTarget/i18npool/localedata/localedata_oc_ES \

FILE ./i18npool/source/localedata/localedata.cxx
  { "oc_ES",  lcl_DATA_ES },

add the file
/i18npool/source/localedata/data/oc_ES.xml



https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147053



De: Matthias Seidel
Enviado: Jueves, 27 de Enero de 2022 23:56
Para: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Asunto: Re: RV: Aranese Spell Checking in libreoffice


Hi Javier,


My impression is that LO did somehow enable Aranese for spellchecking.


They never added your localedata (oc_ES.xml), at least I can't find
it in their code.


I am not sure what to think of that, maybe others here have an opinion?


Regards,


     Matthias



Am 23.01.22 um 21:44 schrieb Javier T:
Hi Matthias

I have found the mail that I sent them with the modified file that
they indicated to me.

If I remember correctly this was added by the version of libreoffice
5.1

When you open a new document in libreoffice if you select the text,
it lets you define the language of the text or paragraph and
"Aranese" appears there.
When you want to define a language for the document it does not
appear or I know why.
Attached capture and the mail that I tell you.

Thank you.


[cid:part1.65E0CAD6.8A86E85D@hamburg.de]



De: Javier 
Enviado: miércoles, 13 de mayo de 2015 22:12
Para: jonathon 
Asunto: RE: Aranese Spell Checking

Occitan is composed by these diferent variants.

  Alvernès

  Bearnès

  Creixent

  Gascó

  Judeoprovençal

  Llenguadocià

  Montpellerenc (subdialecte)

  Niçard

  Occità llemosí

  Provençal

  Vivaroalpí


Aranese is a Gascon dialect spoken in Aran Valley (Spain)

I think that ISO 639 is a realy bad system to define languages an
their dialects.

Nowadays exists 2 spell checkers for libreoffice

oc_FR -  I think that is Llenguadocian (but I'm not sure)
gsc_FR - A gascon dialect spell checker.

The correct definition maybe can be
FR_oci_leng
FR_oci_gsc

But this isn't a ISO 639 code. Really I don't have a good solution
for that and I'm not sure what are the diferences between the
diferent dialects.

If you defines a code OCI_fr you need to update the oc_FR spell
checker.

In my case I prefer use oc_ES to standarize with the old
aplications. But I'm not sure what is the best choice to define it
in libreoffice.

You can decide at your own criterion, oc_ES or oci_ES. Really is not
a problem for me, because Aran Valley is the only region in Spain
where people speaks occitan. I need just a code.

I send you the locale file.

Thanks



From: toki.kant...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:00:18 +
To: javierd...@hotmail.com
Subject: Aranese Spell Checking

Javier:

I saw your request for support of Aranese in Apache OpenOffice.

I don't how difference Aranese is from Gascon, nor how different
either
of those are from Occitan.

The primary issue is ISO 639-3 Code OCI, which is for Occitan, and the
various dialects. A spell checker for Aranese will conflict with a
spell
checker for Occitan.
(I am saying that, based on working with spell checkers for various
languages of Southern Africa.)

LibreOffice currently supports Occitan as a language/local.

My suggestion is creating OCI_fr, OCI_ad, OCI_es, and maybe OCI_it as
locales. Get together with users of other dialects/languages that are
classified under OCI, and work up something that is acceptable to
everybody, but still allows them to use the grammar and spell
checkers.

Go to http://www.it46.se/localegen/select_lang.php to create the
locales.
Then either go to https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi and
file a bug requesting creation of the respective locales, or email the
xml, and I'll do that.

The _only_ reason I'm not creating the locales, is that I have no idea
what the correct information is.



jonathon




---

Hi Javier,

I cannot see oc-ES in LibreOffice. 

Re: Openssl, serf and curl... and NSS

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

On 2/10/22 1:13 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Pedro,

Am 10.02.22 um 18:16 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Hi Matthias, all


On 02/10/2022 4:29 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
  

I think Jim has Java 7 available, since we always built AOO41X with it.

Is there any reason for not updating to Java 8 which is still maintained?
Maybe we can let go of Java 7?


I'm I correct that Arrigo was only proving the build in this particular 
machine ans using Java 8 because that is what was available on that machine?


I don't think our official build for the 4.1 branch should change to Java 8.

I'm all for dumping Java 7 on 4.2 and would support at least Java 11 on 
trunk if possible because Java 8 is EOL now I believe.

But the Java for 4.2 and beyond is for another day.




We shouldn't switch the JAVA version within AOO41X without decent testing.


Or at all for the release build IMHO.



Of course it builds, but I remember some problems with JavaDoc?


I remember there was work done on Javadoc and it may have been from 6 to 
7 but I'd have to research that.


Best regards,
Carl


Regards,

    Matthias


Regards,
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Re: Openssl, serf and curl... and NSS

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo,

On 2/10/22 11:00 AM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Hello Matthias,

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 03:42:16PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Hi Arrigo,

Am 10.02.22 um 15:21 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

Dear Jim, Matthias, All,

On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 12:12:09PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:


That's right... I'll wait to even try compiling until things settle
down and we have some slowly moving target I can compile and build
against.


On Feb 8, 2022, at 6:06 AM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Hi Arrigo,

No need to apologize. ;-)

But I think, before we begin to think about upgrading serf we need to
make sure that AOO41X is able to build successfully on all platforms.

Windows and Linux are OK, I think. macOS is still pending?

AOO41X now builds under Catalina, with a single edit to the official
build script: AOO_JAVA_VERSION=1.8

So you build with Java 8?

The official build script contains the setting:
AOO_JAVA_VERSION=1.7

On our Mac mini, the script fails because Java 1.7 is not installed,
and it does not seem to be available on-line for download.


What is the architecture of the Mac Mini?
Asul has x86-64 JDK's available for Java 7 but that's all.

https://www.azul.com/downloads/?version=java-7-lts=macos=jdk

Thanks,
Carl


I found Java 8 installed, and that's why I changed the setting.

I hope it makes sense.

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Re: volunteer in contributing to Open Office

[Carl Marcum]

(adding George this time)

Hi George,

On 1/3/22 7:01 AM, George Bocianu wrote:

Good morning,
I`m George and I`m interested as a volunteer in contributing to Open Office 
project.
My time budget is for start 2-3 hours per month, but according to things to be 
done I an increase the time to that.

Best regards,George


Welcome, Do you have areas of interest you are thinking about?

If you haven't already, you may want to subscribe to the one of the 
mailing lists of your interest including this dev@ development mailing 
list [1].


[1] https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

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Re: volunteer in contributing to Open Office

[Carl Marcum]

Hi George,

On 1/3/22 7:01 AM, George Bocianu wrote:

Good morning,
I`m George and I`m interested as a volunteer in contributing to Open Office 
project.
My time budget is for start 2-3 hours per month, but according to things to be 
done I an increase the time to that.

Best regards,George

Welcome, Do you have areas of interest you are thinking about?

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Re: Happy new year!

[Carl Marcum]

Happy New Year !!

On 1/4/22 12:23 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 04.01.22 um 17:04 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

I almost forgot to wish everyone here a happy new year 2022!


I also wish all of us a happy, healthy and peaceful new year.


What is your new years resolution? Mine is still 1366x768! ;-)


Both monitor are still running with 1920 x 1080. Not really new. ;-)

Marcus


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Re: Combine VMs

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Gavin,

On 11/28/21 5:53 AM, Gavin McDonald wrote:

Hello AOO folks

Infra has taken a look at the usage of your 3 VMS and believe that
they could all be combined into a single VM.

Technically, we can see no reason why this could not be done, and
it may even simplify things, the sysadmin folks all needing only one
VM to access for all services.

So, we would like to combine Forums, Wiki and Translate onto the
same machine that has enough capacity for all.

Please discuss, and let us know your thoughts, so that we may then
alter the migration plan of the current VMs onto one.

TY



We have a ticket [1] opened by Dave about migrating the MWiki and 
possibly the database which I think may be for the mwiki and Forums but 
I'm not sure about that part.
At the time we we're trying to fix the MWiki issues with some extension 
problems that are now resolved.


So far no one has volunteered on our end to migrate the MWiki from wiki3 
to the new wiki4 vm.
Is that something infra can do or do you need a project volunteer for 
that part or which parts if combining all to one?


[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20339

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Re: Buildbot config - svn or git?

[Carl Marcum]

I think Git where ever possible.

Best regards,
Carl

On 11/22/21 5:04 PM, Pedro Lino wrote:

Hi Matthias

I would say silence is agreement.

I assumed AOO moved from SVN to GIT, so in my mind it is the only logical 
option?

If no one has opposed in 4 days (72 hours), I believe this should be a green 
light for Gavin to move on?

Regards,
Pedro


On 11/22/2021 8:53 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:

  
Hi all,


any other opinions?

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 18.11.21 um 13:38 schrieb Gavin McDonald:

Hi ,

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:42 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:


Hi Gavin

Am 17.11.21 um 11:30 schrieb Gavin McDonald:

Hi All,

With the new Buildbot 3.x we are using, we also added the ability to host
project config files from either an SVN [1] location or GIT [2] . So now
you have a choice. Currently your modified openoffice.py config lives in
SVN, but I can easily move it to GIT - the choice is yours!

Personally, I would prefer git. Do we have write access?


Yep, all committers have access



Regards,

Matthias


HTH

[1] -

https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot2/projects

[2] - https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-bb2


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Re: Openssl, serf and curl

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo,

On 11/18/21 2:09 AM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Hello Carl,

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 07:36:37PM -0500, Carl Marcum wrote:


Hi Arrigo,

On 11/17/21 2:16 AM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Dear All,

I pushed a new branch "serf", that contains the OpenSSL upgrade
commits (I reverted the reverts ;-) plus a tentative upgrade of the
serf library to 1.3.9.

A small patch is included to allow building with Python3-based SCons.

The oox module also needed minor patching because it uses some OpenSSL
functions that were refactored since OpenSSL 1.1.0.

I tested it under Linux with Peter's Docker image (adding SCons). It
builds and runs, but I am not sure how to verify if the SSL related
problems are solved.

I could not yet test if it builds under Windows and Mac. Any help
would be appreciated. Please note that the "serf" branch derives from
trunk.

Best regards,

  I tried to build the serf branch but it broke on serf module.  I think I
need Scons.
Are there instructions to add it?

Not yet. I think we should only document it if we ``officially''
choose this path.

If you are using Peter's Docker image, you can install SCons in a
temporary container with the command:

  # yum install scons


I was able to install python2-scons on CentOS 7 and build the serf branch.
I'm getting the same 9 build verification test failures on filetypes as 
with trunk.


Are there any tests for this change branch I can do manually to verify?

Best regards,
Carl


In order to make the installation permanent, we should edit the
Dockerfile.

If you are using your own computer, then you will need to install the
scons package using your distribution's package manager (apt, yum,
zypper...)

I hope this helps.

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Re: Openssl, serf and curl

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo,

On 11/17/21 2:16 AM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Dear All,

I pushed a new branch "serf", that contains the OpenSSL upgrade
commits (I reverted the reverts ;-) plus a tentative upgrade of the
serf library to 1.3.9.

A small patch is included to allow building with Python3-based SCons.

The oox module also needed minor patching because it uses some OpenSSL
functions that were refactored since OpenSSL 1.1.0.

I tested it under Linux with Peter's Docker image (adding SCons). It
builds and runs, but I am not sure how to verify if the SSL related
problems are solved.

I could not yet test if it builds under Windows and Mac. Any help
would be appreciated. Please note that the "serf" branch derives from
trunk.

Best regards,
 I tried to build the serf branch but it broke on serf module.  I think 
I need Scons.

Are there instructions to add it?

Thanks,
Carl

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Re: problem reading old XML formats with trunk

[Carl Marcum]

On 11/17/21 3:00 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi Arrigo,

On 11/17/21 2:43 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Hello All,

sorry for chiming in here so late.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 10:12:05PM -0500, Carl Marcum wrote:


Hi All,

On 11/14/21 5:05 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 22:45 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,


On 11/14/21 11:44 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:31 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and All,

On 11/14/21 9:10 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

I only have a VM available with Xubuntu 18.04.6 and AOO42X, but
have no
problems opening and saving *.STW.

Okay I'll build AOO42X and see if I have same issues as trunk.

I recompiled trunk with
--enable-crashdump=yes \
--enable-dbgutil \

and now I get a better error dialog for opening these file types:
testSaveNewSTC.stc
testSaveNewSXC.sxc
--
Error: uno exception caught while importing:
attempt to insert duplicate XML tag attribute: xmlns:svg
   From File
/openoffice/main/sc/source/filter/xml/xmlwrap.cxx 
at

Line 365
Abort ? (Yes=abort / No=ignore / Cancel=core dump)

I remember that we have a commit in trunk but not in AOO42X:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/122

Until now it has not been tested... Maybe that is the problem?
I can confirm Read-Errors with AOO450 (trunk) on Windows with STW 
and

SXW.
No problems with AOO420 (AOO42X).

This merge may need to be reverted...

Thanks for checking.

It might be better at this point to fix the code.

That's why I asked for testing... ;-)

I'll do some bisecting and try to narrow it down.

I am not sure if the code was ready, Arrigo might know better.
I bisected it down to this one where it starts giving me the error 
which

makes sense according the the commit message:

ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b is the first bad commit
commit ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b

 Raise an exception when attempting to add duplicate attributes

Yes, that's my commit. It is supposed to avoid duplicated attributes
when _saving_ files. I am surprised you see this error while _opening_
them.

I could not really understand how to reproduce this problem. Could you
please send me a RTFM or a more precise link to the
file/script/whatever?

Reverting that commit is of course possible. But it would be like
sweeping dust under the carpet. Duplicated XML attributes are just
illegal, and we should rather fix the code requesting them. IMHO, of
course.

Thank you in advance and best regards,


The test is here [1] which all these methods do you can try manually.
1. open a new writer documant.
2. type @AOO (this really doesn't matter but that's what the test does)
3. Save As "helloworld_saveas.sxw" (only extension type matters here).
4. Close and reopen it.

Repeat for the other old XML filetypes.

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testgui/source/bvt/gui/FileTypeTest.java


In the meantime I'll build trunk again and make sure I'm getting the 
save results.


Yes, I just built trunk again (c2aa676) looks like I'm two typo commits 
behind.

And I still get the errors.

These errors are upon opening a newly created file with trunk.

To test an existing file I just created a SXW file with 4.1.11 and moved 
it to my test VM.
My build of AOO42X will open it and my trunk build has a read error so 
it's not in the writing of the file from what I can tell from that test.


Thanks,
Carl



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Re: problem reading old XML formats with trunk

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Arrigo,

On 11/17/21 2:43 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Hello All,

sorry for chiming in here so late.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 10:12:05PM -0500, Carl Marcum wrote:


Hi All,

On 11/14/21 5:05 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 22:45 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,


On 11/14/21 11:44 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:31 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and All,

On 11/14/21 9:10 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

I only have a VM available with Xubuntu 18.04.6 and AOO42X, but
have no
problems opening and saving *.STW.

Okay I'll build AOO42X and see if I have same issues as trunk.

I recompiled trunk with
--enable-crashdump=yes \
--enable-dbgutil \

and now I get a better error dialog for opening these file types:
testSaveNewSTC.stc
testSaveNewSXC.sxc
--
Error: uno exception caught while importing:
attempt to insert duplicate XML tag attribute: xmlns:svg
   From File
/openoffice/main/sc/source/filter/xml/xmlwrap.cxx at
Line 365
Abort ? (Yes=abort / No=ignore / Cancel=core dump)

I remember that we have a commit in trunk but not in AOO42X:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/122

Until now it has not been tested... Maybe that is the problem?

I can confirm Read-Errors with AOO450 (trunk) on Windows with STW and
SXW.
No problems with AOO420 (AOO42X).

This merge may need to be reverted...

Thanks for checking.

It might be better at this point to fix the code.

That's why I asked for testing... ;-)

I'll do some bisecting and try to narrow it down.

I am not sure if the code was ready, Arrigo might know better.

I bisected it down to this one where it starts giving me the error which
makes sense according the the commit message:

ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b is the first bad commit
commit ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b

     Raise an exception when attempting to add duplicate attributes

Yes, that's my commit. It is supposed to avoid duplicated attributes
when _saving_ files. I am surprised you see this error while _opening_
them.

I could not really understand how to reproduce this problem. Could you
please send me a RTFM or a more precise link to the
file/script/whatever?

Reverting that commit is of course possible. But it would be like
sweeping dust under the carpet. Duplicated XML attributes are just
illegal, and we should rather fix the code requesting them. IMHO, of
course.

Thank you in advance and best regards,


The test is here [1] which all these methods do you can try manually.
1. open a new writer documant.
2. type @AOO (this really doesn't matter but that's what the test does)
3. Save As "helloworld_saveas.sxw" (only extension type matters here).
4. Close and reopen it.

Repeat for the other old XML filetypes.

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/test/testgui/source/bvt/gui/FileTypeTest.java


In the meantime I'll build trunk again and make sure I'm getting the 
save results.


Thanks,
Carl


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Re: Buildbots

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Gavin,

On 11/16/21 7:15 AM, Gavin McDonald wrote:

Hi Matthias,

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:32 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:


Hi Gavin,

Am 16.11.21 um 09:37 schrieb Gavin McDonald:

Hi All.

Ok so I am making progress.

The nightly x64 build is running fine. as are the rat builds.
I'll get the 41 branch added today - should we also do a 42 branch build?

Thanks!

It would be ideal to have all branches (trunk/AOO42X/AOO41X).


Yep no problem



As for the win10 builds I am working on those now.

I am at a stage in the win10 build where it wants dlls and exe files
(listed below) from an
'external' directory located on the machine but outside of the build
itself. These get copied in
during a build step.




No objection against copying these files from whatever location. They
haven't changed in the last years but it is always good when we can
access them.

If you take the files from the old buildbot everything should be the
correct version.

If you have questions about the Windows builds, feel free to contact me.


Perfect, new 'openoffice-externals' repository created, I'll put them in
there
and have the build(s) pull them in from there.




Regards,

Matthias


/

As can be seen at:


https://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-win7/builds/737/steps/externals/logs/stdio

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 9:54 PM Carl Marcum  wrote:


Hi Gavin,

On 11/14/21 2:16 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote:

Hi All,

As the current Buildbots arent really working, nodes offline etc, I

thought

this would be the best time to migrate your builds over to our newer
replacement
buildbot 3.2 over at ci2.apache.org .

I'll do my best to get them all running as passing as best they can,

and

will update this thread with any questions or messages.

My first query is seeing as we have no more i386 or FreeBSD

agents/nodes,

I'll probably just go ahead and remove those from the new config file.

HTH


I just realized I had somehow missed your original email about migrating
andwas discussing getting with you.

Thanks for working on this.

Let us know if you have any questions.

Best regards,
Carl





Can you point me to info on the tech stack used for the linux64 
buildbots like OS platform and how it works.


I'd like to look at future changes that could be made and I'm not 
suggesting changing anything your doing now:


A couple questions:
Is it possible to use docker containers to build with?

We have a build verification test suite using JUnit but it requires a GUI.
Are there any options to add something like this to a workflow?

Thanks again for working on this!
Best regards,
Carl

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Re: problem reading old XML formats with trunk

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

On 11/14/21 5:05 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 22:45 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias,


On 11/14/21 11:44 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:31 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and All,

On 11/14/21 9:10 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

I only have a VM available with Xubuntu 18.04.6 and AOO42X, but
have no
problems opening and saving *.STW.

Okay I'll build AOO42X and see if I have same issues as trunk.

I recompiled trunk with
--enable-crashdump=yes \
--enable-dbgutil \

and now I get a better error dialog for opening these file types:
testSaveNewSTC.stc
testSaveNewSXC.sxc
--
Error: uno exception caught while importing:
attempt to insert duplicate XML tag attribute: xmlns:svg
  From File
/openoffice/main/sc/source/filter/xml/xmlwrap.cxx at
Line 365
Abort ? (Yes=abort / No=ignore / Cancel=core dump)

I remember that we have a commit in trunk but not in AOO42X:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/122

Until now it has not been tested... Maybe that is the problem?

I can confirm Read-Errors with AOO450 (trunk) on Windows with STW and
SXW.
No problems with AOO420 (AOO42X).

This merge may need to be reverted...


Thanks for checking.

It might be better at this point to fix the code.

That's why I asked for testing... ;-)

I'll do some bisecting and try to narrow it down.

I am not sure if the code was ready, Arrigo might know better.


I bisected it down to this one where it starts giving me the error which 
makes sense according the the commit message:


ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b is the first bad commit
commit ebd28ad3a7fedadb378ee1596803008e8c6b383b

    Raise an exception when attempting to add duplicate attributes

Best regards,
Carl



Regards,

    Matthias


Thanks,
Carl


Regards,

     Matthias


Regards,

     Matthias


Now I'll try AOO42X

Best regards,
Carl


I have only done basic tests so far.

Regards,

  Matthias

Am 14.11.21 um 00:53 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi All,

When I build trunk lately I'm getting build verification test
failures
for the following tests in bvt.gui.FileTypeTest

testSaveNewSTC
testSaveNewSTD
testSaveNewSTI
testSaveNewSTW
testSaveNewSXC
testSaveNewSXD
testSaveNewSXI
testSaveNewSXW

I've also manually checked them by saving a new document in one of
these formats. Close and reopen it and I get a Read Error.
I've built and tested on CentOS 7 and Ubuntu 18.04 and get the same
results.

Does anyone have a recent build of trunk to confirm?

Thanks,
Carl

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Re: problem reading old XML formats with trunk

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Matthias,


On 11/14/21 11:44 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Carl,

Am 14.11.21 um 17:31 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Matthias and All,

On 11/14/21 9:10 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Carl,

I only have a VM available with Xubuntu 18.04.6 and AOO42X, but have no
problems opening and saving *.STW.

Okay I'll build AOO42X and see if I have same issues as trunk.

I recompiled trunk with
--enable-crashdump=yes \
--enable-dbgutil \

and now I get a better error dialog for opening these file types:
testSaveNewSTC.stc
testSaveNewSXC.sxc
--
Error: uno exception caught while importing:
attempt to insert duplicate XML tag attribute: xmlns:svg
 From File
/openoffice/main/sc/source/filter/xml/xmlwrap.cxx at
Line 365
Abort ? (Yes=abort / No=ignore / Cancel=core dump)

I remember that we have a commit in trunk but not in AOO42X:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/122

Until now it has not been tested... Maybe that is the problem?

I can confirm Read-Errors with AOO450 (trunk) on Windows with STW and SXW.
No problems with AOO420 (AOO42X).

This merge may need to be reverted...



Thanks for checking.

It might be better at this point to fix the code.
I'll do some bisecting and try to narrow it down.

Thanks,
Carl



Regards,

    Matthias


Regards,

    Matthias


Now I'll try AOO42X

Best regards,
Carl


I have only done basic tests so far.

Regards,

     Matthias

Am 14.11.21 um 00:53 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi All,

When I build trunk lately I'm getting build verification test failures
for the following tests in bvt.gui.FileTypeTest

testSaveNewSTC
testSaveNewSTD
testSaveNewSTI
testSaveNewSTW
testSaveNewSXC
testSaveNewSXD
testSaveNewSXI
testSaveNewSXW

I've also manually checked them by saving a new document in one of
these formats. Close and reopen it and I get a Read Error.
I've built and tested on CentOS 7 and Ubuntu 18.04 and get the same
results.

Does anyone have a recent build of trunk to confirm?

Thanks,
Carl

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Re: Buildbots

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Gavin,

On 11/14/21 2:16 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote:

Hi All,

As the current Buildbots arent really working, nodes offline etc, I thought
this would be the best time to migrate your builds over to our newer
replacement
buildbot 3.2 over at ci2.apache.org .

I'll do my best to get them all running as passing as best they can, and
will update this thread with any questions or messages.

My first query is seeing as we have no more i386 or FreeBSD agents/nodes,
I'll probably just go ahead and remove those from the new config file.

HTH

I just realized I had somehow missed your original email about migrating 
andwas discussing getting with you.


Thanks for working on this.

Let us know if you have any questions.

Best regards,
Carl

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