aubuti;640733 Wrote:
I don't know where you are located, but the original Boom is still
available a lot of places. With triode's Spotify plugin it ticks 3 of
the 4 boxes, lacking only the touchscreen. Is the touchscreen really
that essential? That seems more laughable to me.
I know you were
gruntwolla;640804 Wrote:
Which direction did you go? I'd love to know of decent table stereo that
has better functionality than a squeezebox. Can it access
spotify/napster/pandora etc. Can it sync with other music systems?
I think many of us agree that a Boom2 with previously mentioned
The idea that either a monophonic Radio, or the conglomeration of a
Touch plus separate amplified speakers, is a substitute for a decent
table stereo player, is laughable on many levels, including cost,
functionality, ease of use, etc.
I've had recent opportunities where a Boom 2, or the like,
indeed. there are products i **could** make work... but a mythical boom
2 would be ideal, and I shall wait and hope one comes out.
I don't think it would be very difficult... we're told the audio stages
of the radio are based on the boom; the embedded platform that the logic
of the touch and the
eganders;640712 Wrote:
I've had recent opportunities where a Boom 2, or the like, would have
been a perfect choice. Unfortunately no such device exists today, so
we've had to go a different direction.
Sad.
I don't know where you are located, but the original Boom is still
available a lot
I'm still waiting for the arrival of the Atomic Squeezebox... ;)
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28816
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eganders;640712 Wrote:
The idea that either a monophonic Radio, or the conglomeration of a
Touch plus separate amplified speakers, is a substitute for a decent
table stereo player, is laughable on many levels, including cost,
functionality, ease of use, etc.
I've had recent opportunities
slippyr4;640038 Wrote:
well, i'm new to the squeezebox scene (i got a radio last wednesday and
liked it so much I bought a touch on sunday).
The touch is for my hifi in the living room; the radio is great in the
kitchen. But now i want a device for the dining room:-
Stereo
Integrated
Slip, they really do multiply like rabbits. I found that out and to me
they are worth it.
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Ikabob
Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil
Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers).
Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3;
slippyr4;640038 Wrote:
well, i'm new to the squeezebox scene (i got a radio last wednesday and
liked it so much I bought a touch on sunday).
The touch is for my hifi in the living room; the radio is great in the
kitchen. But now i want a device for the dining room:-
Stereo
Integrated
well, i'm new to the squeezebox scene (i got a radio last wednesday and
liked it so much I bought a touch on sunday).
The touch is for my hifi in the living room; the radio is great in the
kitchen. But now i want a device for the dining room:-
Stereo
Integrated Speakers
Touchscreen
Support for
This is the kind of player I'm looking for:
http://gizmodo.com/181262/grundig-psw-500-wireless-speaker
(looks weather proof enough, mobile to place whereever you are in the
garden or garage, operates on battery or mains, big speaker to produce
good sound (strong not high quality))
I hope I can
Hey Trev, glad to hear it. I think a Radio is a great choice for a 9
year-old. Now with some judicious selections for the six presets you
have a fighting chance that you can steer him towards good musical
taste. No guarantee, but a chance.
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aubuti;636746 Wrote:
In your earlier post you were talking about the need for Receivers, and
now you're talking about a successor to the Boom, so I hope you can
where I was unclear about what you meant. But now I think I get your
point and I agree completely that it would be good to have a
justreturned;637723 Wrote:
...
Logitech, please bring back an SB3-like model, with nice design, maybe
a (tiny) set of somewhat hidden and invisible buttons (e.g. on the side
or on top)...
I would agree. I just got a SB Touch and like it, but also thing it has
strayed away from the slim
justreturned;637723 Wrote:
In my opinion SB3 is still the most awesome-looking piece of hardware
every made in this product line (designed by Slimdevices). I own Booms,
a Radio, a Receiver and a SB3, and while the SB3's fluorescent display
is not as flexible as a touchscreen, it just looks
On 6/21/11 1:55 PM, erland wrote:
Just get a Logitech Harmony remote and get a Play Music button that
does everything of the above with a single click. I haven't tried it
myself but it should work as long as all devices are controlled with a
IR remote.
I have a Harmony. It is set up for all
In my opinion SB3 is still the most awesome-looking piece of hardware
every made in this product line (designed by Slimdevices). I own Booms,
a Radio, a Receiver and a SB3, and while the SB3's fluorescent display
is not as flexible as a touchscreen, it just looks classy and is nicely
readable
justreturned;637723 Wrote:
In my opinion SB3 is still the most awesome-looking piece of hardware
every made in this product line (designed by Slimdevices). I own Booms,
a Radio, a Receiver and a SB3, and while the SB3's fluorescent display
is not as flexible as a touchscreen, it just looks
I've been reading this thread with much interest. I currently have the
original SqueezePlayer and a Radio--both are fantastic pieces of
hardware and with SqueeboxServer now supporting sync, everything is
great.
That being said, I've now moved into a larger house and would like to
start
Juggler;637401 Wrote:
... thoughts? Speculations?
Let's keep the price point realistic. Except for perhaps some very
special, very temporary promotions by particular resellers, the
Receiver (SBR) was not priced less than US$100. The list price was
$150, and when Logitech's supplies got low the
I have an AppleTV v2. It does indeed require an outboard DAC before it
can render analog audio. An outboard DAC with an optical input no less.
If I wanted to use the AppleTV as an audio output device, I would need
to either:
Using TV interface -
Turn on Stereo
Turn on DAC
Select AppleTV
aubuti;637403 Wrote:
Let's keep the price point realistic. Except for perhaps some very
special, very temporary promotions by particular resellers, the
Receiver (SBR) was not priced less than US$100. The list price was
$150, and when Logitech's supplies got low the resellers on Amazon were
naokaji;636786 Wrote:
Maybe they could just make a leap forward and bring a unified SB / Revue
/ Nas device, stores everything, plays everything, streams everything
Logitech surely should have sneaked in SBS in their Revue or should do
so with the next Google-TV device (if Logitech is the one
fuzzyT;637421 Wrote:
I have an AppleTV v2. It does indeed require an outboard DAC before it
can render analog audio. An outboard DAC with an optical input no
less.
If I wanted to use the AppleTV as an audio output device, I would need
to either:
Using TV interface -
Turn on
Interesting comments. The one point I want to draw attention to is that
Logitech is not being viewed by the average joe for home audio--they
will turn to their iPod/AirPlay for that.
Understood the points on 802.11n and GigE being too expensive... but
what would fit my bill exactly as a
Juggler;637437 Wrote:
Understood the points on 802.11n and GigE being too expensive... but
what would fit my bill exactly as a reasonably priced (not cheap),
headless audio player that I could use in each of my rooms with
speakers.
If you want high quality, just get a Touch or a used
And.
3. With an interface display + touch screen , the initial setup or
changes to said setup could be caried out at the device itself :)
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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
4. Not everyone has a smart phone. Those that do may need it for
something else (phone call?) leaving the other person with no readily
available control point for the player.
Smartphones are great devices, versatile handy. But not always great
at simultaneous multi-tasking especially among
Just by some used SB devices. Or keep a lookout for Logitech deals or
other deals online. They do turn up occasionally.
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Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3,
MF X-150 amp, Devore
Maybe they could just make a leap forward and bring a unified SB / Revue
/ Nas device, stores everything, plays everything, streams everything
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aubuti;636446 Wrote:
@gruntwolla: Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.
Why not a Touch in every place one might otherwise have a Receiver? The
price difference (about $150) is small compared to the overall cost when
you include amp and speakers, and you get better
gruntwolla;636745 Wrote:
I guess I need to clarify what I meant, as I sure didn't mean to suggest
the radio is an inferior product - just that it isn't for me.
snip
So from my point of view I hope there will be an updated version of the
Boom in the future
In your earlier post you were
@gruntwolla: Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.
Why not a Touch in every place one might otherwise have a Receiver? The
price difference (about $150) is small compared to the overall cost when
you include amp and speakers, and you get better quality and more
functionality.
aubuti;636446 Wrote:
@gruntwolla: Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.
Why not a Touch in every place one might otherwise have a Receiver? The
price difference (about $150) is small compared to the overall cost when
you include amp and speakers, and you get better
Touch is worth the extra price for also having a decent interface(s) for
setup and diagnostics.
Wifi is also better than the reciever.
receiver is rather annoying in that it's only comunicating to you with
1 button and a colored led ;) try to make sense about that.
Touch also supports more
I should say that while I think the current offerings are enough to
equip a multi-room system, it would be good to see new developments,
while working to improve the reliability of the current offerings in
parallel.
If we want to speculate about what would be a good next step, I agree
with
And a new bigger radio to replace both boom and radio boom2, bm
I'm unsure if any upgraded Touch could be big enough to run the server,
this could be wasted resources to have so much cpu in each player,
better a logitech branded base station who is an atom based server .
Imho decent server
I'm just thinking of how marketing would cope with a Touch Pro / Touch
II / Touch Base Station.
Now it really works. All USB-Drives + Large Libraries
would hit the nail, but doesn't sound all too good.
Guess they'd need to implement some new special features (hopefully
that doesn't cost much
bluegaspode;636471 Wrote:
- Access to Samba-File-Shares (to better compete with Sonos) ?
- Touch Base Station ... missing audio outs (what a waste ...) ?
- Upgraded Visuals/Screensavers ?
- Retina display
- Can play Angry Birds
- Slimmer
:-)
On a serious note, in addition to Bluegaspode's
The old hardware most obviously in need of a next generation is the
Boom, and since the Boom has been end-of-lifed, there's no conflict
with existing products. (The Radio ain't even close to being a suitable
replacement for the Boom.) Heck, Logitech could even re-use the
identical rear housing
TiredLegs;636502 Wrote:
The old hardware most obviously in need of a next generation is the
Boom, and since the Boom has been end-of-lifed, there's no conflict
with existing products. (The Radio ain't even close to being a suitable
replacement for the Boom.) Heck, Logitech could even re-use
I'd bet Slim/Logitech learned their lesson (the hard way) with the Duet
and will likely never offer another player absent a screen.
No screen, relying on another hardware device (Controller), with no web
UI setup, is just another CSR nightmare in the making. ;)
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TiredLegs;636502 Wrote:
The old hardware most obviously in need of a next generation is the
Boom, and since the Boom has been end-of-lifed, there's no conflict
with existing products. (The Radio ain't even close to being a suitable
replacement for the Boom.) Heck, Logitech could even re-use
TiredLegs;636502 Wrote:
The old hardware most obviously in need of a next generation is the
Boom, and since the Boom has been end-of-lifed, there's no conflict
with existing products. (The Radio ain't even close to being a suitable
replacement for the Boom.) Heck, Logitech could even re-use
have you guys seen the apple TV?
for $99 you have a simple, easy to use piece of hardware that can
stream audio and video digitally. your ipod and/or iphone can control
it as soon as its plugged in, or use the tiny 3 button remote that
comes with it.
what does logitech have to compete with
aubuti;636512 Wrote:
+1
And fix the problem with the woofer
mounting/surrounds(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82497)
1
basically the woofer will eventually cut lose it's only a matter of
time and hove loud you play.
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bluegaspode;636471 Wrote:
I'm just thinking of how marketing would cope with a Touch Pro / Touch
II / Touch Base Station.
Now it really works. All USB-Drives + Large Libraries
would hit the nail, but doesn't sound all too good.
Guess they'd need to implement some new special features
MrSinatra;636513 Wrote:
have you guys seen the apple TV?
Yes but they have decided to not sell it in Sweden, at least not yet.
I could import it but it still loose a lot of its attractiveness
without support for Netflix and similar services which aren't available
in Sweden. Streaming from
erland;636517 Wrote:
Yes but they have decided to not sell it in Sweden, at least not yet.
I could import it but it still loose a lot of its attractiveness
without support for Netflix and similar services which aren't available
in Sweden. Streaming from iTunes on a desktop is not something
Mnyb;636461 Wrote:
I'm unsure if any upgraded Touch could be big enough to run the server,
this could be wasted resources to have so much cpu in each player...
The Touch can not do 192 kHz because of the CPU, the rest of the HW
could do it, to support 192 kHz you probably would need twice
I'm neither an audiophile nor an Apple-hater, but AppleTV is completely
useless to me because it doesn't have analog audio outputs. Yes, it
streams audio, but does everyone have amps with digital inputs these
days?
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aubuti
MrSinatra;636525 Wrote:
what should they have? two devices with no screens. one (more
expensive) with server and one without. then let phone apps (or
computer based SP) control them, set them up, and act as remotes. if
that takes off and sales are good, then consider a third model
aubuti;636532 Wrote:
I'm neither an audiophile nor an Apple-hater, but AppleTV is completely
useless to me simply because it doesn't have analog audio outputs. Yes,
it streams audio, but does everyone have amps with digital inputs these
days?
I bet most of the users who would consider
jean2;636530 Wrote:
The Touch can not do 192 kHz because of the CPU, the rest of the HW
could do it, to support 192 kHz you probably would need twice the
amount of CPU of the current Touch. 192 kHz is essential for bragging
rights.
From my experience, what is sucking CPU and memory is
aubuti;636532 Wrote:
I'm neither an audiophile nor an Apple-hater, but AppleTV is completely
useless to me simply because it doesn't have analog audio outputs. Yes,
it streams audio, but does everyone have amps with digital inputs these
days?
Yes !
All audio is digital these days an analog
erland;636536 Wrote:
I bet most of the users who would consider getting a AppleTV have an amp
with digital input or a TV with HDMI input.
Well the tv's HDMI input is useless for audio, except for audio through
the tv speakers (barf!). I suppose a lot of the target market has A/V
receivers with
Mnyb;636540 Wrote:
Yes !
All audio is digital these days an analog interface does not make sense
between 2 digital boxes, assuming a HT reciever or processor or HTIB ,
the archaic use of an old fashioned analog 2ch amp is not very common
these days :)
HDMI is what everything uses these
aubuti;636542 Wrote:
A/V receivers and HTIB are understandably the norm now for home theater
setups, but for audio systems too? Or are you telling me that everyone
has a tv connected to their ste^H^H^H audio systems now?
Everyone who consider to get an AppleTV does.
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Erland
aubuti;636542 Wrote:
Hmm, then I suppose I'll have to take back the NAD integrated amp I got
a couple years ago and tell them they forgot to include some of the
inputs. ;-)
A/V receivers and HTIB are understandably the norm now for home theater
setups, but for audio systems too? Or are
I should count myself lucky then. Most of my friends have audio
separates in the living room/lounge parts of the house, ie, the more
public parts of the home. The tv is usually in a smaller rec room or
media room, and may or may not be connected to a HT audio system.
I have thought about
aubuti;636546 Wrote:
I should count myself lucky then. Most of my friends have audio
separates in the living room/lounge parts of the house, ie, the more
public parts of the home. The tv is usually in a smaller rec room or
media room, and may or may not be connected to a HT audio system.
I live by myself in small apartment I can not have 2 setups like one
hifi and one HT .
So I do hiend HT which is fun to with multichannel music and movies
sounds very good .
If you have house and familly thats desirable with 2 rigs one hifi and
something small and trendy to the living room TV,
I, and most of my friends with separate audio systems, also have teenage
kids. That's part of the strategy of putting the tv (and the Wii / XBox
/ PS3) in another part of the house. I don't really want to stop the
invasion, just redirect it a little bit.
It's also another reason why my system
Loving my Garrard turntable which runs through a 30 yr old Pioneer Rcvr
which powers a couple of little BW CM1s and my Touch !
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aubuti;636551 Wrote:
It's also another reason why my system connected to the tv doesn't have
a subwoofL
er.
;-)
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aubuti;636532 Wrote:
I'm neither an audiophile nor an Apple-hater, but AppleTV is completely
useless to me simply because it doesn't have analog audio outputs. Yes,
it streams audio, but does everyone have amps with digital inputs these
days?
i can't say about apple tv, as i have had little
erland;636533 Wrote:
Without the display the Touch would be completely useless to me. I
prioritize the display a lot higher than then built-in server, but I
realize I'm not the target user of Logitech neither is most of the
people on this forum.
it would still be a player, and while i can
If you believe you'll get more flexibility out of DLNA you are wrong.
DLNA is OK for video (where the controller is in the player and you are
dealing with single files) but for audio it's a failed technology and
will go away - and I say that as someone who's actually doing active
DLNA related
pippin;636576 Wrote:
If you believe you'll get more flexibility out of DLNA you are wrong.
DLNA is OK for video (where the controller is in the player and you are
dealing with single files) but for audio it's a failed technology and
will go away - and I say that as someone who's actually
I didn't say you were wrong.
I just wanted to say that if you are used to Squeezeboxes and then you
would have to use some DLNA based SB, you would be disappointed.
It's not just syncing, it's also the remote control capabilities.
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see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and
other servers that do DLNA can be remote controlled.
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www.lion-radio.org
using:
sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b -
win7 xp pro sp3 ie9 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 -
d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac
::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604'
MrSinatra;636583 Wrote:
other servers that do DLNA can be remote controlled.
No. Not a single one.
Servers are never remote controlled via DLNA. Renderers are. That's
the problem.
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*New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com
pippin;636584 Wrote:
No. Not a single one.
Servers are never remote controlled via DLNA. Renderers are. That's
the problem.
A server in DLNA is just a data source, all the logic has to be in the
renderer.
i didn't say the server would be remote controlled by DLNA.
i said other servers
MrSinatra;636585 Wrote:
i didn't say the server would be remote controlled by DLNA.
i said other servers that do DLNA can be remote controlled.
Sorry, but this is nonsense. No need for that kind of discussion.
My server can do DLNA and I can control it remotely through SSH. Cool.
What does
this is EXACTLY what SBS is doing. i guess you think thats nonsense?
sbs 7.6 will do DLNA, and can be remote controlled by your app, theirs,
or others. SBS is not the only server of which that paradigm will be
true.
i don't know why you're so intent with finding fault with what i said,
but i
MrSinatra;636589 Wrote:
this is EXACTLY what SBS is doing. i guess you think thats nonsense?
sbs 7.6 will do DLNA, and 7.6 can be remote controlled by your app,
theirs, or others. SBS is not the only server of which that paradigm
will be true.
Yes, but what's the point about that in
my apologies if i am mistaken then, but i was under the impression that
if you have a DLNA client, like say a PS3, you could send to it video
or music files from say WMP, which is a DLNA server. meaning, that a
user, via WMP directly, could control what went out over the DLNA
client.
so, are
MrSinatra;636594 Wrote:
my apologies if i am mistaken then, but i was under the impression that
if you have a DLNA client, like say a PS3, you could send to it video
or music files from say WMP, which is a DLNA server. meaning, that a
user, via WMP directly, could control what went out over
ok, so tell me if i have this straight:
if, in theory, you had a single piece of software that was both a DLNA
server, and a DLNA control point, it could, in theory, be remote
controlled by an app similar to ipeng, and control what is played over
the DLNA renderer?
is that possible in at least
MrSinatra;636599 Wrote:
if, in theory, you had a single piece of software that was both a DLNA
server, and a DLNA control point, it could, in theory, be remote
controlled by an app similar to ipeng, and control what is played over
the DLNA renderer?
If the renderer supports being
MrSinatra;636594 Wrote:
my apologies if i am mistaken then, but i was under the impression that
if you have a DLNA client, like say a PS3, you could send to it video
or music files from say WMP, which is a DLNA server. meaning, that a
user, via WMP directly, could control what went out over
aubuti;635105 Wrote:
What about multi-room audio? The Touch works fine for multi-room audio.
What direction are Logitech going? Not many people are going to buy a
Touch for every room ( plus speakers )and the radio, although good at
what it does, cannot be considered as part of a multi
It's quite highly developed now. The only things that the Touch needs
are faster processor/more memory and something that will handle large
USB drives better than the Touch does. Tiny SBS is a rather poor piece
of work.
Boom looks very dated now. Needs a touch screen.
--
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New players: Most do not know the answer. Those few that might know
are not allowed to say anything.
I highly doubt a weather proof player is high on their list. I'd
suggest you simply buy the Radio and not get it wet. ;)
--
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In general, Logitech doesn't comment on yet-to-be released products.
Like toby says, anyone who claims to know about new hardware products
is probably faking it. And anyone who really knows isn't allowed to
say.
The Touch has been out a little over a year. Have you considered that
(a) new
As long as product is not finalized and ready to be announced to the
public even the majority of Logitech Employees is left in the dark
about its existance, so in short, unless you have access to the Team
who actually develops the product there is no way to find out about
future products.
--
There are places like engadget.com where you can get informed
speculation. They post info from people who track things like
applications for FCC approval for new devices, etc. But it's still
speculation.
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aubuti
Well, I think they should come up with some new devices quick. Right now
you can chose between a Squeezebox Touch and a Squeezebox Radio. Not a
very big lineup. What about multiroom audio? The Sonos field looks
greener every time I look at it...
I think a new Receiver II would be welcome, and
What about multi-room audio? The Touch works fine for multi-room audio.
I have 8 SBs (6 different models) spread around the house.
I agree that if they want to keep the SB product line going then they
need to have some new models in the works. I'm not sure the if
condition is satisfied. From
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