Re: [slim] SB3 Screensaver when off: No clock Option?

2011-11-15 Thread Gazjam

Thanks Guys,

I like what 7.6 onwards does so I'll be sticking with that I think..it
worked before with 7.7 which is the odd thing?

Clock works fine on MySqueezebox.com, just broke on the Server.
Going to try a full uninstall/reinstall see what happens.

Cheers.


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Re: [slim] Vaguely interested in Spotify/Napster/whatever

2011-11-15 Thread cliveb

OK, thanks to everyone who has replied. Pleased to hear about the
mysb.com integration in SBS. I think I will try loading up a recent
SBS/LMS on a spare machine and have a play.

One other important thing I didn't mention in my original post is that
I use a few 3rd party plugins that absolutely MUST continue to work:
- Power Switch II
- Power Save
- Other Players
(I also use Custom Browse and Lazy Search, but could live without
them).

So I will need to find a version of SBS/LMS that supports these plugins
AND mysb.com integration. Is that possible?


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-11-15 Thread bluegaspode

moishap;670185 Wrote: 
 I've checked that post and have tried syncing either way - Squeeze
 Player on HTC HD2 (Leo) to Squeezebox Radio, or Squeezebox Radio to
 Squeeze Player - same out of sync. 
 
 I guess you may want to add two more no sync cases. Out of curiosity
 I installed your app on my second phone HTC Sensation - no luck.
 Yes. No difference. 
 

Guess, will indeed start to compile a list of synchronisation
compatible devices and post them in my blog. Anyone interested, please
do some tests and report here about your synchronisation experiences.
What Android version is running on your two mobiles by the way?

Could you further clarify what 'out of sync' means to you:

- Do they roughly start at the same time but slowly drift apart?
- Don't they start at the same time and don't get in sync in at least
30seconds (if boxes don't start at the same time, they still try to
catch up over time ...) ?
- Do all devices skip heavily all the time, trying to get into sync but
are not successful?
- Is one device 'just' a little bit behind but always with the same lag
- so they do actually sync if it wasn't for the time-lag? (For this last
point there are options in the server for each player to accomodate for
this by the way. One can configure small delays there)


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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released

2011-11-15 Thread AndrewFG

vagskal;670201 Wrote: 
 .. I had no idea that WMP somehow was awake and chatting with
 Whitebear.
 
 If you come to think of anything else any hint would be appreciated.Following 
 is just an idea...

As you know, Windows 7 and Windows Media Player 12 do have their own
built in features for networked media sharing and playing; and it is
perhaps just possible that those apps are somehow interfering with the
sharing process between JRMC and Whitbear (??) so one suggestion is to
look at: 

1) Windows Control Panel Network Sharing options, and/or 
2) Windows Media Player Streaming options

And check if there is anything in those settings that might be blocking
your UPnP transactions.

Note: As far as I recall, the settings in Windows Control Panel and in
Windows Media Player (and even in Winows Firewall) are often inter
related; i.e. you can turn media sharing functions on/off via either or
both applications; and it is sometimes quite confusing to find out what
is going on. Also, in my experience once you have changed things in the
Windows network, you may need to wait a long time before all the
settings filter through to all apps and devices.


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Re: [slim] Vaguely interested in Spotify/Napster/whatever

2011-11-15 Thread garym

cliveb;670208 Wrote: 
 OK, thanks to everyone who has replied. Pleased to hear about the
 mysb.com integration in SBS. I think I will try loading up a recent
 SBS/LMS on a spare machine and have a play.
 
 One other important thing I didn't mention in my original post is that
 I use a few 3rd party plugins that absolutely MUST continue to work:
 - Power Switch II
 - Power Save
 - Other Players
 (I also use Custom Browse and Lazy Search, but could live without
 them).
 
 So I will need to find a version of SBS/LMS that supports these plugins
 AND mysb.com integration. Is that possible?

Mysb.com integration works with EVERY version of SbS or LMS. So create
account and add credentials to whatever version of SbS you currently
use. Doing this won't interfere with your plugins.


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Re: [slim] Which amp for a squeezebox?

2011-11-15 Thread AndrewFG

linvale;646569 Wrote: 
 Have you considered skipping an amp and connecting directly to powered
 speakers?Indeed. I use an old pair of the Yamaha powered monitors; but the 
 MSP3
also look worth investigating...

http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/global/en/products/speakers/ms101iii/
http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/global/en/products/speakers/msp3/


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Re: [slim] Which amp for a squeezebox?

2011-11-15 Thread ScottRennie

Have a look at the Pro-ject stuff - I have found it to be very good!


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-11-15 Thread gruntwolla

Hi folks,

I had to get a replacement htc desire the other day, and I
reinstalled Squeezecommander. Now I am having an issue wih cover art in
some folders not showing in Squeezecommander.

I am a bit baffled for 2 reasons. The album art is still
displaying correctly on my duet controller, and secondly, I can see no
difference between the layout of the folders that do display correctly
in Squeezecommander, and those that don't.

I guess I'm missing something obvious here, but any help
appreciated,

Trev


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread kesey

sherington;670195 Wrote: 
 My Pa - now 85 - has an SB3 stuck (with tape) to the top of his enormous
 projector TV, connected wirlessly to his desktop PC, with SB server on
 it  hooked to his surround sound system - plays his classical
 collection almost all day - never has a problem. It really took all of
 20 mins to set it all up for him  teach how to get at his collection
 - which I had also digitized in less than a day with dBpowermmp. The
 whole thing took way less than a day and he has been a really happy
 bunny ever since - he has been running now for about 5 years.

Well done sherington. Nice story. Its great to hear that your Pa is
listening to his music via the SB3.

When a person is willing to learn, nice things can happen. 

My wife is a technophobe of the first order. She used to love her
various Nokia phones - 6310s etc because they were so easy to use. She
was very much reluctant to move to her HTC Desire even though she knew
from the kids that it would work for her. Now she's emailing, googling,
bopping photos all over the shop, using Viber, Whatsapp and loads of
handy programs.

She uses the Squeezebox Boom and has a series of favorites (ripped CDs,
radio stations etc.) that she likes. She has no interest in messing with
Squeezecentre or that sort of thing. No problem. I do. But if I didn't
she would be perfectly happy with the use she gets out of the Boom.

The Slim/Squeeze series of products is useful, and as easy or difficult
or as esoteric to use as a person chooses to make them. That to me is
what makes them great. They work. The Squeezebox Classic is a work of
art - a beautiful pretty thing that allowed music a new way out of the
box.


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-11-15 Thread enz01

Hi Christian

I've got an HTC Desire S and want to use SQ with my VBA SBS/Touch/Boom
set-up. However, I assume that the Desire S suffers from the UDP
broadcast bug that you mentioned earlier. Assuming that is the case,
will SQ actually work on the HTC Desire S or is it only certain SQ
functions which are affected? If the latter, please can you tell me
what bits of SQ **won't** work on it.

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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-11-15 Thread maggior

I tried syncing with my Xoom and my son's Boom (gee, this stuff makes
it's own poetry ;-).  The results were not so good.

First I started playing the Boom, and as it was playing I sync'ed my
Xoom to it.  The sync wasn't perfect, but it was close.  

In an attempt to force it to resync, I skipped to the next track.  At
this point the sync was unacceptable and was probably a good .25
seconds out.  Changing tracks did not improve it at all.

At this point I gave up.

My music is encoded in FLAC.  I do not have transcoding configured for
the Xoom (i.e. it is coming as FLAC to the Xoom).  My server version
can be found in my sig.

I don't really care since I won't use this functionality and really
wouldn't expect it to work.  But you asked :-).


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Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom.  SuSE 11.0 Server running
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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread vrette

Just listed my Revue on eBay. I'm just going to bite the bullet and buy
a xBox to use as an extender with my HTPC running Windows 7 Media
Center. Buh-bye Google TV...


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Re: [slim] SB3 Screensaver when off: No clock Option?

2011-11-15 Thread Michael Herger
 I like what 7.6 onwards does so I'll be sticking with that I think..it
 worked before with 7.7 which is the odd thing?

This is an intermittent issue which has cropped up with 7.6 for the first  
time. A server restart would usually fix this.

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17497

I've seen this myself on exactly one SB3, one time. And I'm running quite  
a few devices :-)

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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.0 released

2011-11-15 Thread ralphy

I've sent you a test build to try via email.

Squeezeslave does everything I need except wma decoding which I have
working but it's not ready for general consumption yet.  Beyond that
I'm not planning any new development.

I suspect squeezeslave currently works with Triode's spotify plugin, if
the check for direct streaming support in the player was removed from
the plugin.  But I haven't tested that, so I could be totally wrong. 

I've had 4-5 forum members offer to look at adding support for other
sampling rates, but so far no one has submitted any patches to test.  I
have indicated that it requires a lot of rewriting of the code to get
working and I'm not prepared to spend the time to do so.


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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released

2011-11-15 Thread vagskal

Thanks for your advice! Unfortunately I am having no luck with this.

I tried blocking just WMP. When that did not work, I tried to shut off
media streaming in the control panel network settings and made sure
that all WMP related functions were blocked in Windows Firewall
advanced settings while all Media Center Extenders related functions,
including UPnP, were allowed there for the local network. I waited at
least half an hour between these steps, but no luck. I could not see in
Windows Firewall advanced settings any other program except something
called Network identification that mentioned UPnP.

One thing I noticed in the media streaming section of the control panel
was that the icon representing WMP hade a green play button on it while
the corresponding icons for MC and Whitebear (which showed just on of
my four SB players in that list) did not have such play buttons.

I suppose using MC as a full feathered front end for the Squeezeboxes
is not for me. Too bad. But thanks for trying to help out!


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.0 released

2011-11-15 Thread routerunner

I downloaded the source from the trunk and following the instruction I
was nearly able to cross compile for mipsel architecture by using
emdebian...I said nearly as I'm stuck into an error whilst attempting
to compile the vorbis library as below:

checking for Ogg... cross compiling; assumed OK...
yes
checking for oggpack_writealign... no
configure: error: Ogg = 1.0 required !
make: *** [lib/vorbis/lnx26/lib/libvorbis.a] Error 1

Any help would be really appreciated...


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[slim] .cue files not being handled by 7.7

2011-11-15 Thread Ken
I upgraded to 7.7 (on OS X Lion, and on Windows 7) and find that the 
server no longer recognizes my single album FLAC+cue files. I have a few 
hundred of these and none are being recognized by the server. Browsing 
through the library shows the album, but the entry lists its contents as 
empty. Navigating to the directory via the Music Folder shows the files, 
but provides no controls for accessing them. I rolled back to 7.6 and 
the problem was still there on OS X, but not on Windows. Rolling back to 
7.5 on OS X seems to work fine.

Has anyone else seen this behavior with single album FLAC files using 7.7?

Thanks,
Ken

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Re: [slim] .cue files not being handled by 7.7

2011-11-15 Thread chill

Hi Ken

In preparation for installing Lion in the next few days, I finally got
around to installing 7.7 last night (over 7.5.something), on a Mac Mini
running OS X 10.6.8, and was pleasantly surprised how smoothly it went. 
Most of my rips are FLAC+CUE, and I didn't encounter any problems.

Do you perhaps have tags in your FLAC files, in addition to the
information in the CUE files?  Did you notice any problems in the
database scan?

Chris


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-11-15 Thread flattermann

The only feature that is affected by the UDP bug is the 'catch lost
players' that I've added in the newest version.
I.e. reconnect an ip3k player (SB3, Transporter, Receiver, Boom) that
has lost the connection to its server.

Everything else will work fine.

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Re: [slim] .cue files not being handled by 7.7

2011-11-15 Thread Mnyb

Cue+ file is broken in the browse music folder function, but should
work fine in the standard menus artits albums genre, search and
search.


http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17404

is it case sensitive on linux it has always been case sensitive, but
how does it work on OSX and modern windows ? Example on my  linux
server a cue sheet refering to file foo.flac would not work if the file
name is Foo.flac


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-11-15 Thread flattermann

gruntwolla;670236 Wrote: 
 Hi folks,
 
 I had to get a replacement htc desire the other day, and I
 reinstalled Squeezecommander. Now I am having an issue wih cover art in
 some folders not showing in Squeezecommander.
 
 I am a bit baffled for 2 reasons. The album art is still
 displaying correctly on my duet controller, and secondly, I can see no
 difference between the layout of the folders that do display correctly
 in Squeezecommander, and those that don't.
 
 I guess I'm missing something obvious here, but any help
 appreciated,
 
 Trev

Have you already tried a 'Clear Cache' in SqueezeCommander?

Where does the cover art problem happen?
In the musicfolder view, the album view or the NowPlaying view?

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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-11-15 Thread srdegnan

Hi

Have been using squeezeplayer without issues on a HTC desire.

Just picked up a samsung galaxy s2 and once installed receiving a wifi
invalid server error. Squeezecommander works fine.

I have two squeezebox servers to select from. It can see them both fine
(one on 7.7 one on 7.6) but both have same error. 

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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-11-15 Thread srdegnan

Hi

can ignore - I changed the 'name' of the phone from the default and it
was happy!

srdegnan;670278 Wrote: 
 Hi
 
 Have been using squeezeplayer without issues on a HTC desire.
 
 Just picked up a samsung galaxy s2 and once installed receiving a wifi
 invalid server error. Squeezecommander works fine.
 
 I have two squeezebox servers to select from. It can see them both fine
 (one on 7.7 one on 7.6) but both have same error. 
 
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-11-15 Thread bluegaspode

maggior;670245 Wrote: 
 In an attempt to force it to resync, I skipped to the next track.  At
 this point the sync was unacceptable and was probably a good .25
 seconds out.  

How long did you wait for Boom + Xoom to get into sync again? Give it
10-30seconds at least before you skip again. (it often takes less then
30seconds). This resyncing would only happen on the very first song of
a playlist by the way - songs that are skipped automatically don't
bother the sync.

The start of the song is where I have the least influence on the
Android device. 
A Squeezebox (and iOS) can say: Dear little Soundchip, here you have
some audio data, please prepare for instant playing but only start when
I tell you.
On Android I can only say: Dear little Soundchip, here is the data of
the next song, pleaassse start to play it as soon as possible so
that I don't start too much out of sync.

SqueezePlay then tries to catch up the lost time as soon as possible,
but the Squeezebox-Server first observes its players for some time
before sending correction infos to each player.


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-11-15 Thread gruntwolla

flattermann;670275 Wrote: 
 Have you already tried a 'Clear Cache' in SqueezeCommander?
 
 Where does the cover art problem happen?
 In the musicfolder view, the album view or the NowPlaying view?
 
 Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk

I haven't tried a  clear cache  yet. I'll give that a go and get back
to you tomorrow after work if that doesn't help.

Thanks for the quick reply,

Trev


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread nicolas75

Mnyb;670112 Wrote: 
 This statement is bizzare !
 
 
  So you confirm that in its current state, this product cannot be
  suitable for wide audience, without dedicated computer aware staff
 to
  install and support the system.
  With the price it costs, which may exceed the devices price, does it
 ?
 
  Otherwise they have to stick to very basic use (streaming internet
  radios for example), which is most customers do.
 
 
 
 People have computers and people have wifi and network and routers
 BEFORE adding a squeezebox to it .
 
 And have been ripping CD's before for use on their PC . Or frankly been
 stealing tons of files with p2p software for ages.
 
 You are implying that so called normal people can't operate their own
 computers (install a program, for example squeezeboxserver) .
 
 Nor can they use their own router or add clients to their own network
 (for example follow the instructions on a Radio/Touch to make it
 connect )
 
 And the the impossible task of putting a CD in the cup holder .
 
 And you deliberately misinterpret parts of what shaboyi tries to tell
 us.
 
 An observation , custom installs is not for for everyone these kind of
 clients obviously have money and are not at all interested in some diy
 to make this fly, they have more profitable things to do with their
 busy life.
 
 A person with more time than money can do this for himself, with some
 care it actually works.
 
 People are not imbeciles I have observed them driving cars operating
 heavy machinery using computers in their work etc.
 
 Regarding very basic use
 
 Many people would be quite satisfied with just a spotify or pandora
 machine , not all people have music collections these days or if you
 are uniterested in sq you find it faster on spotify than in your own CD
 pile anyway .
 
 Streaming services is the great time saver for non hifi people , the
 hours I spent tinkering with the system pales in comparison to the time
 used to rip thousands of CD's .
 
 I think someone only wanting the very basic use of streaming service
 realize this, a couple of hours on a weekend wasted but you suddenly
 saves 100's of hours not having to rip your scratched cd's and what
 about the warped vinyl and old cassettes .
 
 And there is of-course problems a lot of them , but the basic
 architecture is ok .
 
 A problem some won't admitt to is the unreliable scanning is in
 reality that all the files you downloaded with p2p are tagged by
 cretins, such a collection would of-course be a horrible mess and not
 usable by any other way than music folder it often looks very odd in
 album or artist ;)

You simply missed the most important part of my post.
Which is people are not necesseraly stupid or imbecile (should I point
out that YOU misinterpret what I said  ?)
They simply do not accept to loose time with unreliable products or
weird interface, only acceptable when you have a geek or nerd way of
thinking.
And in that respect, I do think they are much smarter than geeks or
nerds.

I can deal with computers, I do develop softwares much more complicated
than LMS.
I am like the vast majority of Logitech target market (tech aware or
not).
I don't want to mess with geek behavior, because computers and
softwares are not a hobby, there are tools.
This market DEMAND stuff reliable and easy to install.
SBS/LMS is not, a bunch of customers say so.

One should not blame tags or artwork when LMS crashes (it almost never
happened to me, but it does happen a lot for many customers), nor
loosing time fixing tags if they don't care about them.
Why ?
Because this is not acceptable, and no other popular music software
crash with bad or stupid artwork, leaving the customers with unusable
library.

Forcing people to fix their artwork IS stupid (except as a TEMPORARY
workaround until the mandatory LMS fix is done).

The only acceptable solution is 2 mandatory things :
- Allow people to suppress ANY kind of scan if they want.
- Make the scanner bad-artwork-and-bad-tagging-proof 

Check MediaMonkey if you don't understand what it means.

It is not because a few dozens of geeks on a forum say those customers
are wrong (or stupid), and that their one-armed blind 110 years old
grandfather, or their six month baby little sister, installed LMS with
their right foot, while developping a funny perl plugin with the left
big toe, use it without trouble, are happy with it, and so that
everybody should be happy, that those few dozens of geeks are right.

Logitech target market, those who pay for the devices, hifi dealers
choosing a product to sell it in order to make a living (not spending
their time writing on a forum that customers are stupid because the
product is so great), those people, some tech-aware, some others not,
say that in its current state, those products are not reliable and easy
to use for wide audience.

Fortunately it seems that Logitech CEO has figured out that.
With a little hope, this may be easily corrected.
Aknowledge that a software like 

Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released

2011-11-15 Thread AndrewFG

vagskal;670257 Wrote: 
 I tried blocking just WMP.I don't think blocking things in WMP would help at 
 all. I think the
blocking has an impact similar to the firewall and tends to prevent
UPnP traffic from getting through. Rather my suggestion was to UN-block
stuff.

Perhaps one intermediate step, rather than playing around with JRMC, is
to see if you can get things working inside WMP 12 itself. You should
easily be able to Browse the Content Directory Your Library (by
Whitebear) and you should be able to Play To Your Player (by
Whitebear). The screenshots on http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver
show how it looks. This works pretty much out-of-the box
automatically...

Then if it does work with WMP 12, you know that the OS / firewall /
networking / Microsoft / stuff is all fine, and the only remaining
problem is JRMC. And if otherwise, we at least learned that JRMC is not
the bad guy...


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-11-15 Thread maggior

bluegaspode;670288 Wrote: 
 How long did you wait for Boom + Xoom to get into sync again? Give it
 10-30seconds at least before you skip again. (it often takes less then
 30seconds). This resyncing would only happen on the very first song of
 a playlist by the way - songs that are skipped automatically don't
 bother the sync.
 
 The start of the song is where I have the least influence on the
 Android device. 
 A Squeezebox (and iOS) can say: Dear little Soundchip, here you have
 some audio data, please prepare for instant playing but only start when
 I tell you.
 On Android I can only say: Dear little Soundchip, here is the data of
 the next song, pleaassse start to play it as soon as possible so
 that I don't start too much out of sync.
 
 SqueezePlay then tries to catch up the lost time as soon as possible,
 but the Squeezebox-Server first observes its players for some time
 before sending correction infos to each player.

Ah, OK.  I learned something new :-).  I may have given it 10 seconds,
but definitely not 30 seconds.  I figured that it would attempt to
realign the sync at the start of each track, which was why I tried
that.

Tonight I'll give it 30 seconds or more and see if it adjusts itself
into sync.


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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released

2011-11-15 Thread vagskal

 You should easily be able to Browse the Content Directory Your Library
 (by Whitebear) and you should be able to Play To Your Player (by
 Whitebear).

Hmm. Do you mean that I have to first load my SBS library (by
Whitebear) in MC to be able to use the Send to command?

What I want is to have the files on the MC PC sent for playback to my
SBs in full quality and with the info displayed on my SBs that I am
used to (as I said, I could point MC to the same files as SBS sees, if
that would make things easier). I want to use MC, with all the info in
the MC database and MC's powerful options for building playlists etc.,
as a front end for full quality playback on my SBs.

Earlier this year you tried to help me to load my rather large SBS
library into  MC but it never succeeded (import stalled or was at least
too slow to use), and the files I got imported into MC showed not even
all the info available in SBS. I think I remember that the Send to
command in MC worked earlier this year for files in the MC library but
then my flac files got transcoded and the info on the SBs looked like
an internet radio station was played. Now I was told in the MC forum
that full quality playback with all info available to SBS was possibly
when using the Send to command. That is why I wanted to try using
Whitebear again.

Again, thanks for your kind help! I appreciate it a lot.


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Re: [slim] .cue files not being handled by 7.7

2011-11-15 Thread chill

Mnyb;670274 Wrote: 
 ...but how does it work on OSX...

Sorry - not sure, all my CUE files seem to point to the correct (case
sensitive) FLAC files.

But I knew I shouldn't have opened my big mouth on this subject - it
felt like I was tempting fate even while I was writing my first reply! 
This evening I ripped a couple of new CDs to FLAC+CUE and did a rescan
('Look for new and changed media files' only), and then browsing by
Artist to the new albums all I saw was the single FLAC file (which was
playable) - the CUE file information didn't seem to have made its way
into the database.

A rescan with 'Clear library and rescan everything' fixed it though. 
Not the same problem as the OP (probably), but it seems related.  I'll
see if its reproducible with another new rip later this evening.


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.0 released

2011-11-15 Thread MusicManiac

routerunner;670261 Wrote: 
 
 checking for oggpack_writealign... no

I believe that is a part of libogg - might want to check on your
dependencies. I'm not somewhere I can look into the error more right
now.

Out of curiosity, does the mips binary posted at googlecode work for
you? 

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[slim] Benchmark Trade In Policy

2011-11-15 Thread garym

Interesting email I just received from Benchmark. Any US person thinking
about a benchmark, might find this saves them a few bucks.  I don't work
there (but I am a happy owner of an older Benchmark DAC I).

===

'DEAD or ALIVE Trade-Up’ Program For Non-Benchmark Products
Due to the successful response to the first Benchmark Trade-Up program,
we are pleased to announce the expansion of the Trade-Up program to
accept any digital to analog converter, analog to digital converter, or
microphone preamplifier, “dead or alive.” If you or your friend has an
old unit that meets that description, here is a great opportunity to
upgrade your gear and receive a credit of 50% of the original purchase
price, up to a maximum credit of $800, depending on the product.

Forward this e-mail to your friends or colleagues. Remember, we will
take any DAC, ADC, or microphone preamplifier in any condition. Convert
that old piece of gear, collecting cobwebs, into a brand new Benchmark
product with the latest technology and stellar performance. 

The trade-up program is only valid for Benchmark customers in the
United States. The program starts on November 15, 2011 and ends on
December 16, 2011. 

Upgrades available on at www.benchmarkmedia.com trade-up or by calling
1-800-262-4675


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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released

2011-11-15 Thread MrC

vagskal - don't give up.  It does work fine, as we discussed over at
Interact.

I think you're just stumbling on something that will turn out to be
pretty minor.

I'm not sure where you are currently, or what your setup is, but I
would do this:

1) shutdown MC and Whitebear
2) disable Windows firewall's on relevant systems
3) disable A/V software, ensuring that their network packet inspectors
are out of the way
4) ensure WM* streaming is disabled
5) launch MC with DLNA enabled (just turn on
Server/Renderer/Controller).  Check the TCP port number.  Restart MC if
you've made changes - I don't know how quickly the server is updated -
so be safe.
6) launch Whitebear, and check the Status page.

At this point, in a working system, you should see SB zone's appearing
under Playing Now in MC.


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread aubuti

nicolas75;670305 Wrote: 
 Aknowledge that a software like MediaMonkey is years ahead LMS as far as
 files selection, library management, and scanning reliability are
 concerned (anybody not convinced should seriously try).
 
I'm curious to try MediaMonkey, but before I go to the bother of
installing it, could you explain how MM gets the tracks from my
computer to my stereo systems? I've browsed the MM web page, and so far
to me it looks to be more like iTunes, Winamp, Foobar2000, etc. That is,
designed to play back on the computer itself, or possibly output to an
audio system via soundcard, USB, or maybe digital output. But maybe I'm
overlooking something. Thanks.


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread nicolas75

aubuti;670379 Wrote: 
 I'm curious to try MediaMonkey, but before I go to the bother of
 installing it, could you explain how MM gets the tracks from my
 computer to my stereo systems? I've browsed the MM web page, and so far
 to me it looks to be more like iTunes, Winamp, Foobar2000, etc. That is,
 designed to play back on the computer itself, or possibly output to an
 audio system via soundcard, USB, or maybe digital output. But maybe I'm
 overlooking something. Thanks.

I am using it like Winamp or Foobar2000 on a computer.
It may be possible to run it with some smartphone plugins, but I didn't
check and I don't know.

A USB dac is connected to the computer and to my stereo system.
Since I do need a computer with the Squeezebox Touch anyway and have
everything wired, I am seriously thinking in replacing the Squeezebox
Touch system by a good USB dac, a small silent nettop, and a good user
friendly music software (ideally with some android smartphone app as a
remote for the software).

Some good nettops running Windows 7 have a remote, can be connected to
a Touch screen (not squeezebox touch here, but computer touch screen),
softwares can probably be run with an android smartphone.

There is a MediaMonkey plugin for Squeezeboxes (MonkeySqueeze), but I
don't know how it works exactly and I understood I do need LMS and its
database to use it.
If so, I cannot get rid of LMS scanner.

The point is not to compare MediaMonkey to Squeezeboxes system (I don't
really like the look of MediaMonkey interface, but that's just me).
The point is to see that it is not that difficult to have a software
which can :

- select some files wherever there are (internal HDD, external HDD,
network location, usb stick)
- add full directories to the library if you feel like it.
- have an advanced library management with automatic rescan if you
really want it
- etc ...

All that without any hassle for normal users, no mandatory scans, no
unexpected rescans when you don't expect them, no scan or rescan
crashes (at least nothing compared to SBS/LMS)

I give MediaMonkey example because I use it, and think that file
selection and library management are really great and reliable, but it
is probably the same for Winamp, Foobar, etc ...


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.0 released

2011-11-15 Thread gharris999

Ralphy: any chance we could get a '-FL' or '--discoverylist' arg that
would have squeezeslave just list the addresses and ports of the
available servers and then exit?

Also, a '--pidfile=' arg would be helpful.

Thanks.


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.0 released

2011-11-15 Thread routerunner

MusicManiac;670352 Wrote: 
 Out of curiosity, does the mips binary posted at googlecode work for
 you? 
 -mm

I'm working on making a SageTV HD200/HD300 acting as a Logitech Duet
under specific circumstances, which includes the ability to
modify/recompile the squeezeslave code as appropriate. To answer to
your question, yes the current mipsel build does run on both platforms,
however I still need to cross compile the soundcore.ko and em8oss.ko
to the specific linux version the boxes are running on. Also I managed
to find the Sigma SDK version the HD300 is using, but not the HD200
which is an older model.


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Re: [slim] Which Burr-Brown DAC is better - PCM1748 (SB3) or PCM1690 (Onkyo 709)?

2011-11-15 Thread boren

Thanks for all the comments. I guess listening tests are the best way to
compare the two, unfortunately I'm not so experienced in this. Are there
any DAC-challenging samples that are recommended to more easily hear the
sound quality differences between models?


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread aubuti

nicolas75;670385 Wrote: 
 I have a USB dac connected to the computer and to my stereo system.
 It behaves like a external soundcard.
 
Ah, that's what I was afraid of. Doesn't sound like a solution for me.
And I'm already familiar with the capabilities of all-purpose
audio/media software like iTunes, Winamp, Foobar, Songbird, etc etc.
Thanks anyway.


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread garym

aubuti;670399 Wrote: 
 Ah, that's what I was afraid of. Doesn't sound like a solution for me.
 And I'm already familiar with the capabilities of all-purpose
 audio/media software like iTunes, Winamp, Foobar, Songbird, etc etc.
 Thanks anyway.

yep, my pre-SB system was Foobar2000 on laptop w/USB HDD  S/PDIF 
Benchmark DAC I  stereo. I also looked at MediaMonkey for a bit (and
it was quite good), but liked the infinite flexibility of Foobar2000
and its plugins. But it was the search to get my music storage and
computer away from the stereo, as well as far removed from any internal
soundcard issues (which are many!) that got me to SB products. Wasn't
even thinking about Synching players at the time, but that has now
become a critical factor as well.


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[slim] lost playlists Help!!

2011-11-15 Thread thesil

Somehow, I have lost my playlists. I see them on i tunes , but none show
up on my player. I have an SB3 with a duet remote. Running MAC os 7.7 .
I just upgraded to the iPhone 4s, but that shouldn't have anything to
do with it. Any help would be great. thanks


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-11-15 Thread maggior

OK, that's better :-) .  Letting it play for a good thirty seconds gets
it in good sync.  It's quite tight.  I'm right next to the boom and I'm
holding the xoom up to me right ear.  There's a very slight echo, but if
the devices were spread out more, I'm sure I wouldn't notice it.  Very
nice!!!


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Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom.  SuSE 11.0 Server running
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Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934 albums, 515 artists.
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Re: [slim] Android Controller App

2011-11-15 Thread ctbarker32

Just got my Kindle Fire today. 

Tried to install Logitech Controller App from GetJar but no joy.

Any chance Logitech could publish this app officially in the Amazon
App store?

This would really make my day.

Thanks.

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Re: [slim] Which Burr-Brown DAC is better - PCM1748 (SB3) or PCM1690 (Onkyo 709)?

2011-11-15 Thread Mnyb

On thing I cant figure is if there is any real analog pass thru in that
reciever I doubth it has it.

It's pure audio mode turns of the video circiuts , that i figured.

if you are going to use any processing including the subwofer output,
digital conection is a given.

Most modern av recievers digitise the analog inputs. This means that
the Squeezebox analog ouput with ist DAC is going to an ADC ( analog to
digital converter ) in the Onkyo and then to the Onkyo's DAC, you want
to avoid this, by using a digital input.

Given this recievers advanced eq posibilities I think you are meant to
use digital inputs for any serius source, the analog inputs are there
to support legacy sources that does not have digital outputs.

The short answer :
On most modern AV recievers you should use a digital input for your
squeezebox.

IMO I think most modern design have abandoned the concept of a pure
analog path, the volume controll is probably digital too, so you also
want to keep the Squeezebox at 100% volume for bit perfect transmission
to the digil processor in the onkyo.


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-11-15 Thread moishap

bluegaspode;670209 Wrote: 
 What Android version is running on your two mobiles by the way? Sensation is 
 2.3.4 kernel 2.6.35.13 i'll put HTC HD2 aside now, as it is
originally a WinMo phone and was reflashed with Android.

bluegaspode;670209 Wrote: 
 
 - Do they roughly start at the same time but slowly drift apart?
 - Don't they start at the same time and don't get in sync in at least
 30seconds (if boxes don't start at the same time, they still try to
 catch up over time ...) ?
 - Do all devices skip heavily all the time, trying to get into sync but
 are not successful?
 - Is one device 'just' a little bit behind but always with the same lag
 - so they do actually sync if it wasn't for the time-lag? (For this last
 point there are options in the server for each player to accomodate for
 this by the way. One can configure small delays there)
It looks like the phone is in-sync for 3-5 seconds, but then rapidly
falls behind. I tested with the .flac and skipping to the next song
just repeats the cycle - in-sync and quickly falling behind.
Interestingly enough - I do no hear neither Squeezebox Radio, nor my
phone skipping in the attempts to re-sync.


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Re: [slim] Android Controller App

2011-11-15 Thread mkozlows

mherger;656167 Wrote: 
 We're about to release 1.1.2 to fix the issues HTC users have seen.
 Please see the following posting for details:
 
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656166#post656166

Just saw it hit the market today -- fixes the scroll issues for me,
thanks!

One weird thing is that it seems to lock the screen to landscape
orientation no matter how I hold it.  Not sure if that's intentional or
a bug, but either way, it's better than the scroll artifacting.


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread gruntwolla

The main issue throughout this thread is one that has been discussed God
knows how many times in these forums, mainly along the lines that if one
is a geek, go for Squeezebox; if not try Sonos or others.

Speaking purely for myself, I've long thought that view to be well off
the mark. The average under 25 these days is extremely tech savvy,
perfectly happy to download and use apps for their smartphones etc, so
to suggest they can't cope with SBS/LMS software is ridiculous.
Equally, for those who treat their music seriously, it is not a problem
as they tend to know what they want, and do the research accordingly. So
we are left with the large percentage of people who either can't be
bothered, or are genuinely happy with inferior products.

For that last group, why would they be interested in wifi players at
all. If they're happy with an ithingy dock playing aac files,then who
are we to criticise?

So this brings us on to who Squeezeboxes should be aimed at, how to
make them more user friendly, and how to market them. Personally, I've
thought for a long time that Logitech have missed a trick by not having
their own branded version of a vortebox. A  box that can rip and tag
accurately,with a stable linux version of SBS/LMS preinstalled, and
perhaps a 250 GB HD could be pretty cheap if produced in bulk, and
could be offered as a bundle with the Touch.I certainly wish I had
heard of Vortebox BEFORE I ripped/tagged and added cover art to all my
cds.

I also think it's incorrect/unhelpful to state that mediamonkey ( for
example) is years ahead of LMS/SBS. I used to use mediamonkey in my pre
SBS days, and I certainly don't miss it. The name SBS kind of gives it
away really.It's primarily a SERVER, and as far as I'm concerned it
does that rather well. Having said that, things can always be
improved,can they not?
Regards,
Trev


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread Gingernut63

@nicolas75, aubuti

nicolas75;670385 Wrote: 
 There is a MediaMonkey plugin for Squeezeboxes (MonkeySqueeze), but I
 don't know how it works exactly and I understood I do need LMS and its
 database to use it.
 If so, I cannot get rid of LMS scanner.

This is not totally correct. If you have LMS on your PC then you don't
have to have a LMS music database, hence no scanning. An empty folder
is all that is required for the music folder address. MediaMonkey can
manage your music database and it tells Squeezebox what to play. LMS is
still required and anyway it has useful plugins that MediaMonkey
doesn't. LMS on a Linux NAS (e.g. ReadyNAS DUO) does require a managed
music database due to file format issues between the windows OS and
Linux.

Try MediaMonkey(basic)/MonkeySqueeze for yourself and see the
advantages of playing your music collection on Squeezebox using these
freeware programs. The official release is here:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/browse/item/monkeysqueeze/

Also try the MonkeySqueeze Development site for the latest beta which
has playlist sync:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=59907


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Re: [slim] Android Controller App

2011-11-15 Thread Michael Herger
 Just saw it hit the market today -- fixes the scroll issues for me,
 thanks!

Great!

 One weird thing is that it seems to lock the screen to landscape
 orientation no matter how I hold it.  Not sure if that's intentional or
 a bug, but either way, it's better than the scroll artifacting.

Ugh... what device are you using? Can you give me the details from  
Settings/Advanced/About? I'm particularly interested in the screen  
resolution reported, the screensize and Android version.

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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread MrC

aubuti;670399 Wrote: 
 Ah, that's what I was afraid of. Doesn't sound like a solution for me.
 And I'm already familiar with the capabilities of all-purpose
 audio/media software like iTunes, Winamp, Foobar, Songbird, etc etc.
 Thanks anyway.

Try JRiver Media Center w/Whitebear.  You can stream your raw FLACs
directly to your SBs.


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Re: [slim] MonkeySqueeze

2011-11-15 Thread Gingernut63

The latest Beta release is available for testing on the MonkeySqueeze
Development forum. Improvement in playlist sync between MM and LMS!

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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread Mnyb

garym;670404 Wrote: 
 yep, my pre-SB system was Foobar2000 on laptop w/USB HDD  S/PDIF 
 Benchmark DAC I  stereo. I also looked at MediaMonkey for a bit (and
 it was quite good), but liked the infinite flexibility of Foobar2000
 and its plugins. But it was the search to get my music storage and
 computer away from the stereo, as well as far removed from any internal
 soundcard issues (which are many!) that got me to SB products. Wasn't
 even thinking about Synching players at the time, but that has now
 become a critical factor as well.

Very similar to what I had , but in my case it was an stationary
computer a long catv coax to my DAC.
i was alo using foobar 2000, which brings up the other problem with a
computer centric solution.
it's top down you sit at the computer and pushing out music to your
system.
And you mentioned the soudquality, fiddling with asio for all and/or
kernel streaming to have good soundquality ( without the kmixer messing
it up ) this alos removed system sound from the output.

I got bored with that and basically only used while I was using my
computer and for years I did not have any conection to my stereo untill
I got my first squeezebox. It instanly gave me the two things I lacked
in my competer centric setup.

* computer independent soundquality.

* a bottom up solution where I pull music from my collection via the
player UI I don't have to be near the computer hosting the music I did
not have mine in the listening room even when I used it for music ( I
can not have a noisy pc in the listening room bizarre idea )
this also leads to an architechture where multiroom is an natural
extension and these player started to multiply.

this worked rigth out the box, no fiddling and nerd solutions yet that
came later ;)

A later added a small not so power consuming server to the party (
headless no monitor or keyboard ) it just sits in a corner in another
room.

My current favorite UI is iPeng it brings a very nice UI where i miss
very little.

I sometimes use desktop software to genrate a playlist for later use
with the squeezebox system.

the web-UI i dont regard it a player that would be unfair, but as an
admin interface to the server with some player like cabalilities.

No the squeezebox system is not near what it could do alot of
unfullfilled posibilties.

If ever wanted to go back to a topdown solution again it would be an
laptop + usb dac, the squeezebox is not the tool for that.

Another thing that is special with squeezeboxserver is that by design
it is NOT a media manager you can be assured that it never writes to
files or move them or do anything to them. It just scan them so that
they can be served to the players ( the whole collection can be read
only ).
The idea is that there is plenty of software out ther that does this
much better, this probably includes 
Media Monkey :) and ripping CD or bying music has other solutions that
logitech never could compete with


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Re: [slim] Android Controller App

2011-11-15 Thread Michael Herger
 Just got my Kindle Fire today.

 Tried to install Logitech Controller App from GetJar but no joy.

 Any chance Logitech could publish this app officially in the Amazon
 App store?

I've forwarded your request - just to get a mail from a different corner  
within the company to check whether the app would be compatible a few  
minutes later. It seems we're checking the options :-).

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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released

2011-11-15 Thread AndrewFG

vagskal;670325 Wrote: 
 Hmm. Do you mean that I have to first load my SBS library (by Whitebear)
 in MC to be able to use the Send to command?Not particularly...

The world of UPnP Media (also called DLNA) comprises three elements:
i) DMS Digital Media Servers (libraries), 
ii) DMR Digital Media Renderers (players), and 
iii) CP Control Points -- which do two things a) Browse the DMS Content
Directory, and b) play music to and otherwise control DMRs.

Whitebear represents your SBS library as a DMS, and it also represents
each Squeeze player as a DMR. JRMC is has its own library (which it
also represents as a DMS), it is a player via your PC's audio system
(which it also represents as a DMR), and finally it is a CP too.

Basically (at least in theory) any CP can browse any DMS and play to
any DMR interchangeably as follows:
A) JRMC can browse its own library and play to a Squeeze player DMR
hosted by Whitebear.
B) JRMC can browse an SBS DMS library served by Whitebear and play to
itself.
C) JRMC can browse an SBS DMS library served by Whitebear and play to a
Squeeze player DMR served by Whitebear.

vagskal;670325 Wrote: 
 What I want is to have the files on the MC PC sent for playback to my
 SBs in full quality and with the info displayed on my SBs that I am
 used to Yes that is possible. That would be option A) above.

vagskal;670325 Wrote: 
 (as I said, I could point MC to the same files as SBS sees, if that
 would make things easier).It would not make things easier ;-)

vagskal;670325 Wrote: 
 I want to use MC, with all the info in the MC database and MC's powerful
 options for building playlists etc., as a front end for full quality
 playback on my SBs.You could do this either via option A) above or via option 
 C) above.
There are some benefits in using C) because it allows tighter
integration of tag meta data between the library and the players, but
A) also works if that is what you prefer.

vagskal;670325 Wrote: 
 Earlier this year you tried to help me to load my rather large SBS
 library into MC but it never succeeded (import stalled or was at least
 too slow to use), and the files I got imported into MC showed not even
 all the info available in SBS.How large is your library? Mine has 10k tracks 
 and it takes about 30
minutes to load. However once JRMC has loaded it, it keeps a local
database in cache so reloading is not needed. You only need to reload
into JRMC when you have changed your SBS library, and most times this
occurs automatically in the background anyway.

vagskal;670325 Wrote: 
 I think I remember that the Send to command in MC worked earlier this
 year for files in the MC library Ok, so we just need to work out what changed 
 since then.

vagskal;670325 Wrote: 
 but then my flac files got transcoded and the info on the SBs looked
 like an internet radio station was played. Now I was told in the MC
 forum that full quality playback with all info available to SBS was
 possible when using the Send to command.In option A) above, Whitebear causes 
 the playing track to show TrackNr
- Title - Album - Artist (fixed format) and no AlbumArt. Whereas
option C) provides tighter integration, so the player will show the
meta data in whatever format you have selected in the Squeeze player
settings, and it will also show the album art. This is why I recommend
C) rather than A).


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread Muele

Mediamonkey and the Squeeze-ecosystem obviously fill two different
needs.

The one thing were they can easily be compared is the scanning. And MM
is far ahead. Both in terms of effectiveness, efficiency and fault
tolerance. Logitech could learn from that.

Btw I'm very pleased to here that Logitech is devoted to Squeezebox.
Lets just hope it is not too late and they have a (couple of) new
model(s) up their sleeve, so they have something new and shiny to focus
their (renewed?)marketing around.

Btw, what's up with the Touch/Radio placement in all their powerpoints
and marketing? Radio everywhere, Touch nowhere. I do realize the Radio
is very important and sells well, but it seems they are trying to hide
the touch away.


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread Gingernut63

Mnyb;670441 Wrote: 
 That is a design choice and a holy cow here ?
 
 Should the software have more media manager like capacity ? Some thinks
 it an extremly bad idea . I'm a bit ambivalent, but sometimes when I
 look at a track I'm playing and thinking why did I put it that genre ?
 I wish I could simply change it from the UI .
 Honestly the worst case scenario if a media software botches the files
 is that you have to dig out your backup ?

Good questions Mnyb. For me that is the most frustrating part about
using LMS. It's not the plugins but the interface with your music
collection. You cannot edit the files, creating playlists is a trial
and it's slowww accessing music, and to top it off, there is the slow
scanning.

It does depend entirely on what you want from it. I suppose if you play
an album from beginning to end then it possibly does that ok. But it
does really struggle outside of that area. I remember reading somewhere
someone made a comment that LMS appeared to be created to manage a
playlist of 100 albums without any thought of expansion. It really
struggles with a large private music collection.

I'm not saying LMS is a waste of time, it does have it's uses but it
does need an improvement in the management of the database. It maybe a
holy cow to some, leave it as it is they say, but it's certainly not a
religious experience for others.


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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread cunobelinus

On 16 Nov 2011, at 07:30, Muele wrote:

 Btw I'm very pleased to here that Logitech is devoted to Squeezebox.

Pleased to where?

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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-15 Thread Muele

cunobelinus;670449 Wrote: 
 On 16 Nov 2011, at 07:30, Muele wrote:
 
  Btw I'm very pleased to here that Logitech is devoted to Squeezebox.
 
 Pleased to where?

Ja, undskyld at engelsk ikke er mit modersmål. Men jeg rettede dog
fejlen to minutter inden du nåede at påpege den.


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