Re: [slim] Thank you so much, and good bye :)
Dogberry2 wrote: Good luck with your new music solution, Autopilot. I hope it works out well for your needs. As for me, I don't really have any maintenance issues, but since I'm the only one who puts new music into the system, that does simplify things. I know my wife would never want to have to bother with that side of it; she just wants to play the music, not maintain the database. And that suits me, because I'm pretty fussy about tagging, and prefer to do it myself anyway. But as for the system itself, in my house there is no maintenance, really. Our WiFi is rock solid, and I haven't had to do anything with LMS in a long time. I'm a couple releases behind, but even when I do get around to updating, it won't take me more than fifteen minutes; it isn't painful. Everybody has to make his own choices, of course, and I know not everybody's SB experience has been smooth and easy sailing. I do see that the Squeezebox line is somewhat of a niche system, but I happen to be in that niche. My requirements when I started were: 1. Music throughout a multi-level house 2. A large, lossless personal music library 3. Easily controlled from anywhere in the house 4. Ability to synchronize any combination of rooms The SB system does all those things, and does them well. As far as I'm aware, no other system really meets all those requirements, at least within the same price range. Although there were some glitches over the years, they were really quite minor, and I can't recall the last time there was even a minor problem. There are now 8 players (Duets, Touches, Booms and Radios) in addition to a couple computers using SqueezePlay, and that covers most of the house quite well (though I might pick up another Radio or Boom for the basement workshop and/or garage). Among the hardware players there are frequently anywhere from two to six playing in sync. The majority of our listening is still from our own library, but we also have started using Sirius/XM and Pandora quite a bit. As a bonus, we get access to our personal music collection when we travel. Last month we spent a week in a secluded cabin in the woods. There was no cell phone reception, but the place did have Internet access (via satellite dish) and WiFi, so I took one of the Booms along. I connected it to the IP address of the home system, set the bitrate limiting, and we had our music -- all our music -- with us on vacation, using SqueezeCommander on our phones to control it, just like at home. That's not a primary requirement for me, but it's a nice extra feature. I don't fret much over the fact that official support is now coming to an end. If I lose the ability to put Sirius/XM on the Squeezebox players, that will be a bummer, but it isn't the end of the world. Other than that, I don't really need anything from Logitech or MSB.com anyway. I figure the hardware is good for a long time (barring physical accident), and by the time the devices start failing I'm hopeful that there will be adequate replacements available. But that's far enough in the future that I just don't worry about it. I'm in no hurry to liquidate the SB system and start over. But regardless of what system anyone decides to go with, we can all agree that what matters most is what the Doobie Brothers told us: Listen to the music! This is very similar to me, a few years back when I first got into SB's I was living on my own in my flat and time wasn't a problem, fast forward a few years and I live with my partner and have a young family so time and money is limited so my main focus is being able to listen to music to relax - my Sb system is rock solid, I have a HP micro server with vortexbox which automates a lot of processes (cd/DVD ripping etc.), then from that 4-5 SB players, listening to mainly my lossless collection spotify with the odd bit of internet radio, there is the occasional bit of work but nothing too taxing, I have no reason to change it or not considering leaving. My dad recently bought a sonos setup and it works well for him, only one room currently and he uses an old phone as controller, however I don't see any gain in functionality to want to leave SB socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100307 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
Meridion wrote: My ratings. This is the most simple way of telling LMS which tracks I like. Track ratings allow using dynamic playlists to play my favourite music. When rating are displayed, I know which tracks I already rated (or not) and I can remember better which tracks I like without having to prelisten them when selecting to play them manually. Maybe my brains are not as perfect as yours, but I don't always remember the titles of my thousands of tracks I like(d)... For those with perfect brains and those not using ratings I suggested to have track ratings displayed optionally. Same for me, I have various top rated dynamic playlists based on rating (decade/genre split etc.), in fact I'm listening to top rated indie as I type this. Slightly linked, I can't play dynamic playlists from OS, does anyone have this problem? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do you want to create/manage playlists ?
1. What kind of device would you like to use when creating the playlists ? - A computer - A tablet - A smart phone - A Logitech Controller, Radio or Touch display - A IR remote - Something else My preference would be to use tablet/smart phone followed by the SB players themsleves and finally a computer, I'm looking for ease of use playlists over spending a long time creating and deciding what should be in it 2. How do you decide what should be part of a playlist ? - By selecting the individual tracks you want to include - By selecting the albums you want to include - By selecting the artists you want to include - By automatically selecting 100 tracks that matches some search criteria (genre, ratings, ...) - Something else I listen to 2 types of playlists 1) album playlists - mainly new music, in this case I'll add an album (either local or on spotify) and then queue up another one with 'add to end' 2) dynamic/smart playlists - I've got various playlists set up using erlands dynamic playlists based on 'top rated' and then the smartmix playlist, these are both heavily used for more casual listening with variations of decades, genre etc. 3. How do you decide which order the tracks should have in the playlist ? - Random ordered tracks - Random ordered albums - Drag and drop albums to put them into the right order - Drag and drop tracks to put them into the right order - Something else See above 4. What's the most frustrating limitation with SBS/LMS playlist management today ? - That it doesn't support relative paths in playlist files which are scanned - That it's too hard to reorder tracks in existing playlists - That it's too hard to create completely new playlists - Something else There is no native smart playlist from the web interface/phone controller, so for example when I loaded music into google music it created some auto playlists, whereas with SB i have had to set up various plugins/ratings/mixes although the results are good The web interface is very limited, it would be great if controllers had the ability to drag and drop or suggest tracks etc. 5. What kind of device would you like to use when modifying existing playlists ? - A computer - A tablet - A smart phone - A Logitech Controller, Radio or Touch display - A IR remote - Something else don't really use static playlists 6. What kind of modifications do you usually do on already existing playlists ? - Reorder tracks in the playlist - Remove tracks, albums or artists from the playlist - Add new tracks, albums or artists to the playlist - Something else see above Is there anything else than the above you feel is important to take into consideration if anyone would like to improve the playlist management ? socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94988 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What does VortexBox give me that I didn't know I needed?
maggior wrote: Huh, I didn't know vortex box supported DVDs too. What format does it rip too? Which Roku are you using to stream? Thanks, Rich Its rips to mkv, I've got a roku xs with the plex channel installed, plugged into tv, also got plex app on phones/tablet for streaming there Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98423 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What does VortexBox give me that I didn't know I needed?
agillis wrote: Simplicity. That's what you get that you don't have now. Drop a CD in the drive and it shows up on your SqueezeBox 5 minutes later. One box, no hassles. +1 I have been running vortexbox for a number of years and its great, not just for auto ripping CD's but also DVD's which are both then automatically updated on LMS and plex for Roku DVD streaming. The CD tagging accuracy is very good, occsionally get a unknown artist but rarely, every few months I'll manually update the tags with mp3tag to make sure genre/year etc. is how I want it. Having a young family this simplicity and time saving is a big plus for me, my server runs quietly hidden away and vortexbox automates a lot of this, occasionally need to reboot which I can easy do on my tablet via the web interface socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98423 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of online services in your family ?
erland wrote: For those of you who are living together with a spouse or kids, I'd like to understand a bit better how you would like to use premium online streaming services. Ignore what's supported in LMS and Squeezebox today and instead think about how you would like it to work in the future. One limitation I still want to apply is that with one online streaming account you will still only be able to stream a single song to one device or to multiple devices synchronized, basically no possibility to play different songs to different devices simultaneously as this usually is prohibited by the streaming providers and won't change in the future. The questions I'm wondering about is related to if you have separate premium streaming service account for each family member or if you are using one account for the whole family. If you have separate accounts, is the main purpose of that to be able to stream simultaneously or is it mainly to be able to keep track of individual favorites and playlists ? If you have separate accounts, do you feel it would be important to be able to listen to the music from one of the account on all player devices in the house ? If you have separate accounts, do you have accounts from different streaming providers or does all family member use the same streaming provider ? If you have a single account for the whole family, are you severely missing the ability to keep track of individual playlists or favorites for each family member ? Do you have any ideas how you would like online streaming services to work on your Squeezebox and portable devices from a family perspective ? How would your dream system handle it ? I'll post a separate thread for local music, so don't use this thread to say that you don't use online services. 1) one account - spotify We aren't missing individual playlists for user, its myself my girlfriend and she will just listen to what I set up - spotify usage is mainly me listening to new albums before I buy, playlist wise its local music and smart/dynamic playlists that are used 95% of the time Dream system for me would be able to link online/local music more in terms of music discovery, so if I'd had a few Josh Rouse albums in my local library it would aggregate his online local music and also alert me when he had a new album or single out rather then me always having to review websites/magazines etc. for new music socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?
erland wrote: If you want smart playlists you also need to add handling of statistic data such as play counts, last played time and ratings to the list, smart playlists without this is more or less useless IMHO. Often you want to filter or limit the smart playlist to things like: - Only include music you don't listen to very often - Only include music you haven't listen to for a long time - Only include music which you love (top rated tracks) - Exclude music you hate (low rated tracks) - Only include music you listen to often. Neither Sonos nor Logitech seems to understand this need, which is why I decided to provide support for all of it through third party plugins instead. It could be that smart playlists is something that would only used by a small subset of the users and that this is the main thing that makes it less interesting for them to include support for it, but then it's strange that both Apple (iTunes/iPod) and Microsoft (WMP) has decided to include it in their products because especially Apple is usually pretty restrictive regarding including features which is only used by a few users. Possibly it might be that both Apple and Microsoft is focused at local music while Logitech is more focused at streaming from online services. That feature and your plugins are a 'Must' for me of any system, I have 'smart' playlists set on rating, genre, decades, years which are heavily used - I then use the 'top rated' tracks to convert to mp3 for usage on apple/android devices Basically Erland you are a legend :-) In terms of moving away from SB I would need that functionality there or the ability for clever people to develop plugins socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97599 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?
garym wrote: I assume olive_media represents olive in some way. That's good...I'm happy to see you here. As you'll find, there are lots of people here that are serious about use of network music streamers in good (or great!) audio systems. I have often said I would pay 10 times what I paid for a SB TOUCH if it had the same or better functions/quality. The Olive ONE looks like an interesting product. Sort of a SB Boom that you add your own speakers to. I'm sure there is a market for that. And I'd even want that as a *part* of a whole house system. However, I hope OLIVE is considering additional products, as the OLIVE ONE would not meet my key criteria. To summarize my criteria: 1. At least one type Player without amp/speakers that I can connect to my DAC via either S/PDIF coax, optical, or USB. Preferably all 3 options for digital out. Would also have built in DAC so that users can simply connect to preamp/amp with analog. That is, something like the Squeezebox TOUCH. (nice addition, ability to plug in cable for automatically turning on/off another component) 2. At least one type player that can serve as a table or bedside radio (with built in physical controls and display). That is, something like the Squeezebox Radio or Boom. 3. [ Nice, but not required] A very high quality networked player with built in high quality DAC, high quality build and components, all digital outs, analog outs, plus BALANCED analog outs. That is, something like the TRANSPORTER (nice addition, wired plug in cable for ability to turn on/off another component) 4. Possibility of perfect synching across different players in same network. 5. Support of many codecs (FLAC, mp3, m4a, AAC, ALAC, WAV, etc.). 6. Support of at least 24/96, 24/192 better. 7. Good implementation of digital volume control 8. Support of Gapless playback 9. Reasonable database management (must handle large libraries 200,000 tracks) 10. Reasonable artwork management 11. Playlist functions (preferably some sort of smart playlist ability) 12. Ability to use smart phones or tablets to control everything 13. Ability to provide scrobbling data to last.fm. 14. Mechanism for connecting to free (pandora, etc.) and paid services (MOG, Spotify, SiriusXM, etc.). This would be something like mysqueezebox.com. Yes, with some minor things missing, this describes the Squeezebox line at its heyday. Don't take this as nostalgia. I'm not wedded to SB items, but I am wedded to the functionality provided. I look forward to some quality products from Olive. I *almost* bought an OLIVE digital music player many years ago and have always thought of Olive as a good company. [I also sent this info in an email to: i...@olivehd.com] Pretty much agree with all that also, I also am wedded to the functionality, if another company offered that and additional features/new players that I hoped Logitech would do then I would be tempted to start migrating from my current SB setup. Definately interested in seeing how the olive one concept develops, its easy to be cynical so trying to keep an open mind on it! socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97599 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
theslime wrote: I had to register just to say that after installing this app for the first time, it's the first time in more than a year (since the SqueezeCommander development stopped, more or less) I've not badly regretted buying a Squeezebox Touch. I hate remotes and using it with an Android app - and, preferably, a good Android widget - was the main reason I bought a Squeezebox in the first place, and all other app development the last year (apart from Orange Squeeze, that is) has been underwhelming, to say the least - especially disappointing since I have four Android devices in the house that runs ICS or newer, and the official app looks about three years old, design-wise, and lags badly even on a Nexus 7 (which is no easy feat, consider I can play GTA III stutter-free on it). So: Cheers! No problems so far, making this the best 18 Norwegian kroner I ever spent. Even a lockscreen widget as the icing on the cake. I love my Squeezebox again. Agreed. Would love to see a tablet optimised android app in the same way ipeng and squeezepad are available for the ipad. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Keep the spirit up guys; just bought a new Radio and used Receiver
I do use spotify a fair bit, this is to listen to albums before I decide to buy them or not and occasionally playlists from there - however I use Triodes plugin which as far as I'm aware runs seperately to mysb.com. Even less usage is of BBC radio which I think would still be available. Local music is my main way of listening to music socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dear Squeezebox, still love you
chrisinparis wrote: Great thread, I agree completely. Will raed the rest later :) Like an earlier poster, I spend little enough time on my setup now (plugins, tags, backups), but it's still working. Problems I encounter are due to my network (I think). My SB3 was a birthday present a number of years back; I picked up a Radio (great sound!) after moving a couple of years ago. Still want to improve my setup (separate libraries - actually a number of Erlend's plugins - musicip, better tags and cover art), hopefully my visit today will spur me on to do something. If Logitech did decide to stop SqueezeBoxen, I would definitely try to bag some stock for the future. Haha, just remember a conversation a few weeks ago with someone whi is doing his best to use DLNA for all audio and video - I do not want to have to do that :( (Radio and SB3 are regularly synched to play the same music). Its the same for me, occasional tagging when my vortexbox doesnt get it 100% right but generally server is rock steady and ripping automated Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2 socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93924 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dear Squeezebox, still love you
I'm not as active on the forums as previously, mainly due to a young family but I still love my Squeezebox set-up too. Listening to it is a daily part of life, I listen to a lot of music still and we often listen to music with our son, its always a big way for me to unwind and put my headphones on hooked up to amp/SB Touch. My set-up is pretty low maintenance now, I run a vortexbox server, main elements that are important to me are dynamic playlists based on ratings, spotify for new music and being able to auto rip/tag the cd's when I buy them - I have automated some things on the server so that 'top rated' amp; 'recent' tracks are converted to mp3 and then auto sent to my phone/tablet for music on the go (when not using spotify), I'm pretty pleased that I can buy a new CD or rate some tracks and it is on my mobile devices automatically without any manual intervention. In terms of tagging then I will once or twice a month clean up the 'recent' and 'top rated' music so tags are spot on, generally I am going through my collection and rating but that is slow, very rarely get the chance to do that. As an aside I have also recently got into movie streaming, I bought a roku streamer and hooked it up to 'plex' which is installed on my vortexbox, thats also been used to rip DVDs - same principles as to SB in that space saving in not needed DVDs out and a seperate player as well as the ease of access direct onto TV and tablets. Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2 socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93924 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?
I'm actually quite happy with my Squeezebox setup, I spent a lot of time getting it so that it is pretty low maintenance, especially important since my son was born I'm more inclined just to listen to music and my tinkering/forum posting has dropped dramatically. Roughly speaking the main elements I use are - vortexbox on HP proliant microserver for storing music/running SBS - Dynamic playlists for 'top rated tracks' However in terms of what is missing then - Android Tablet App - Specifically designed for tablet space - Collection interface/playlist management - I would probably spend more time interacting with my collection if there was a better way to manage and creat playlists/rate tracks etc. socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why not in a car?
Audio in the car is one area which I still have to rely on apple unfortunately (and occasionally cd) I have a ford focus and installed a Kenwood head unit, it has a direct connection for iPod/iPhone so I can control on the stereo itself, mainly I use spotify on my old iphone 3G whilst listening as it has all 'new music' on, I had to jailbreak and install 'Music controls' app to be able to fully use the spotify app with the stereo but it works very well, I then occasionally use an ipod which has 'Top Rated' tracks on and obviously more capacity to store them - thats mainly when my girlfriend is in the car and she doesn't like my music! I'm mainly an Android user so I'm hoping that in time there will be head units that come out which will support my Android phone and tablet and cut down on the number of devices I need to use! -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94033 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
froth;690904 Wrote: The biggest issue I have with the squeeze line is ease of use for techo neofites. My system is sold, little to no issues all rooms using wireless with a wireless infrastructure that has N based devices and extenders. Even my microwave no longer causes disruptions in the kitchen setup. The problem comes when the wife wants to use the system beyond presets I have put on a boom in the kitchen for her or the favorites I have created. We use iPeng on ipod and iphones to control the system. So to me the interface is good and easy to use. She still has troubles, the kids not so much but they do say things are much easier to do when playing music from their ithing docked in a base. In fact, often if they are in a room with a boom, instead of just using ipeng to play what they want, they will connect their ithing to the external input into the boom and play right from their ithing. I hate that as for the most part we keep everything on the server and then when they want to update their ithing they have a way to easily add the music to their ithing from the server. For the wife if I know she is doing something and will want certain rooms synced, I predo that for her and then ask her what she will want to play for music so I can easily put the sources there for her such as streaming from Sirius XM or playlists from our large library. So I end up being the DJ so to speak just so she does not get frustrated, go to the basement and unboxes thousands of CD's and go old school. In some ways I believe we need a very simple interface offering basic features to make this easy on the people who are not technical. For example, a sync interface where is actually tells you what to do on the infterface to sync devices in very easy terms and steps. iPeng is close but not close enough so my wife can easily figure it out. I agree and think its frustrating for us SB enthusiasts, we have an excellent system that delivers so much functionality and music, multi-room, multi-service etc. etc., yet I've often had conversations with people who just aren't interested and happy to stick with ipod in a dock producing a basic sound, I've learnt now just to let it go, safe in the knowledge that my system is much more suited for my needs My girlfriend does use the system via iPeng, she knows what to do however isn't a massive music listener compared to me (prefers to have the TV on as background noise which drives me mad!), however she will listen to BBC radio, playlists, albums if needed so she knows what to do, she likes the benefits when some of her friends come round and I'll put on one of the dynamic playlists (e.g. 80s pop!) - however she also is quick to mock my 'geek' system, haha -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
TheLastMan;691041 Wrote: I feel your pain! Things are not so very different in my household. However I have reduced the extent of a couple of the problems: UPDATING KIDS ITHING FROM SERVER: Both my older children have access to a laptop which they use to update their pods. I have set up iTunes on this so that it uses folders in the same music library on my server as the Squeezebox (not a shared library, just adding folders from my SB library). My library is split into two identical halves, one with MP3s for pods and one with FLACs for squeezebox. This library is synced between NAS and a PC giving some backup protection for their iThings, and I have set up iTunes on the laptop so that when they add music from the server it keeps a local copy on their iTunes folder on the lappie. After a bit of cajoling they also let me buy downloads and rip CDs for them as I can do that a lot cheaper than iTunes, and usually a lot quicker too. My son is now getting interested in this process and has offered to take over the job! He is an intelligent lad and understands the advantages. WIFE FRIENDLY CONTROL: My wife is happy to use the Controller, because it has real hardware buttons with obvious functions not disimmilar to an iPod. She simply does not get on with either iPeng on my iPod or Squeezecommander on her HTC. I have also added an extra genre tag to her music so that it is all located in the one menu location, she does not need to scroll through long lists of my what's this awful racket music to get to her own stuff. SYNC PLAYERS: Not sure what your problem is here. I have set it up so that the choose player and sync options are a the top of the home menu so that she can find them easily. Even my technophobe wife quickly got the hang of the sync option after 2 minutes of training (the limit of her patience with these things!). However she finds swapping between players with the Controller a bind, so I may have to buy a second one! Its a shame Mrs TheLastMan won't pick up Squeezecommander or iPeng as they are really easy for controlling and syncing players! -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
Hello I recently bought an Asus transformer Prime and it auto installed orangesqueeze and squeezecommander, have to say that out of the 2 I much prefer the look and feel of OS on the 10inch screen - obviously I'm aware it isn't a tablet version however it still looks good, especially the now playing screen in portrait orientation. I'm aware that a tablet version is on your to-do list but unsure of the status of that? However couple of general comments - Main thing stopping me adopting OS is being unable to support Erlands dynamic playlists and rating via trackstat, this is an important way I listen to music. - On the tablet in landscape mode the space to the right of the artwork could be used better - Would be great to view larger/grid artwork when viewing artists/albums/new music etc. - Squeezeplayer works very well, really like the integration of the two If you are planning a beta programme for the tablet version then let me know, happy to help test that thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Dynamic Playlist onto iPod/iPhone via spotify
Hi All In SB I heavily use Erlands dynamic playlists with trackstat for 'top rated' tracks, I wanted to get the top rated playlist onto my mobile devices, this is the method I used on my linux server (vortexbox) 1. The toprated.m3u playlist with all rated songs is created when I rescan (auto scheduled), I then do a quick clean up on that with a grep command for step 2 2. use rsync to transfer the tracks in the playlist from 'flac' folder to 'mp3' folder, approx 15% of my library 3. Run flac2mp3 mirror to convert to mp3 4. Point spotify to 'mp3' folder as local music, scans for new music each time I open it 5. Use spotify to tranfer to ipod/iphone/HTC desire etc. Works pretty well, I'll be automating 1-3 and will use spotify to periodically update mobile devices, may well look to add in a 'new music' transfer as well however a lot of those albums are on spotify already. Couple of limitations - I believe that step 2. won't delete tracks in the destination folder if say I unrate a song, not a massive issue - Spotify isn't as good as say iTunes for handling 'local' music and creating dynamic playlists, e.g. on SB I drill down into top rated 80s, 90s, indie, pop etc. etc. - however there is no reason why you couldn't use itunes for steps 4/5 for apple devices as I believe it auto monitors a folder (not used itunes for a while) Quite interested to hear whether others have tried anything like this? (there might be an easier way) Also whether alternative software is better for handling the transfer to mobile devices? Cheers Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92784 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices
My journey started nearly 4 years ago so has been all Logitech for me, I came to know about SB players in early 2008 and bought a Duet on a holiday to the states in that summer (it was a lot cheaper!) Duet - Initially I had problems, mainly due to not having a dedicated server and losing connection when I switched library on and off, but that cleared up and it became steady, I however ended up not using the receiver when the Touch came out as the sound quality was so much better. I still use the controller. Touch - I have 2 of these and think they are fantastic, sound excellent as well Boom - Bought not long after the Duet when it was launched, still a fan but prefer the newer screens Radio - Does a very good job in my kitchen. Overall I'm very pleased with the devices I've purchased under logitech, however like most share concerns that there doesn't currently seem to be anything in the pipeline and the team had been cut which brought some problems and a lack of profile, hopefully that will cahnge. Can't deny that the devices have changed how I listen to music and nearly 50k scrobbles to lastFM since 2008 proves that! -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92232 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
elziko;676170 Wrote: Can I ask how the tablet version is going? Do you have an ETA or any beta versions to test? I have an Asus Transformer. Thanks! I'm getting an Asus transformer prime next year, I'm sure Christian is working on a tablet version and its a potential big market for him, fingers crossed he is! -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
Goodsounds;675107 Wrote: Like most people, I'm not interested in learning about an operating system. I'd get more bang from the buck from learning more about some of the apps I need to use, like Word or Excel. But I'm not interested in learning more about them either. Linux's lack of acceptance among PC users is because people are happy to pay for the simplicity and ease of use they get from the MS and Apple products. These products don't need to be better, and I'll accept what (I think) is your view that they're inferior. It doesn't matter, perception wins out. I think the lines are getting blurred here, you need to differentiate between Linux and Vortexbox - Vortexbox is based on linux but has been custom built to be very user friendly, auto rips, pulls in tags/artwork etc, you can do all tasks from an easy to use web interface, you don't need to be geeky and get into the bones of it, that is one of the beauties of the distro. Whereas if I build a windows home server I would have to install LMS, configure various settings etc. etc., much the same using a mac mini -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
firedog;675148 Wrote: Supposedly true, but not really. Vortexbox is easy if it installs without problem on your machine (often doesn't); but is anything but easy if you have somewhat non standard hardware or if you want to introduce some minor option it isn't setup for.(e.g. something basic like install 2nd hard drive) Just go to the Vortexbox.org forum and check the solutions to problems that arise for users (And there are many). For virtually every one of them, the solution involves logging on with a command line program like Putty and writing/editing code. Example: http://vortexbox.org/documentation/how-to-add-a-second-drive-to-your-vortexbox/ So even user friendly' Vortexbox is way to geeky for most people. I only know one person besides me that would go anywhere near it, and he's definitely a computer geek. Unfortunately, this is pretty much true for all the Linux distros I've encountered. And don't get me wrong: I like Vortexbox and think it works well. It just isn't suitable for anything approaching the mainstream computer user, unlike Windows and Apple OSes. Personally I have installed vortexbox on 3 boxes with no issues, an old compaq desktop, a mini ITX box and a HP proliant microserver, I guess its different for every user. What I am talking about above is setting up a box specifically to rip, tag, get cover art and run LMS, in terms of user friendliness then vortexbox is a lot easier then setting up say windows home server and trying to get it to do the same. My view is that the example of adding a 2nd hard drive is going above and beyond the core features, however you have a very strong user community who can support users if they want to go down that route, but there is no need to do that if you don't want to so I don't agree that its not mainstream compatible. Also remember that the SB Touch is a mini linux server, designed specifically for the core features then it runs perfect for its users, I imagine the % of users who want to log in from the command line and adapt is small - vortexbox is a similar concept (however requires more initial set-up), a version of linux adapted specifically, in this case as a media jukebox. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
garym;675198 Wrote: you mean like vortexbox? As the owner and user of two vortexbox appliances, I agree. Nothing against the automatic vb approach (and I played with it just to see how it works, etc.). But for my ripping, I use dbpa to rip to FLAC (I'm particularly fond of ACCURATERIP, which VB doesn't have), then I make sure my tags and art is exactly what I want, then I use dbpa to create mp3 mirror (for my iphone/ipods). Then I move all this stuff onto the Vortexbox Appliances from my windows machine (over my network). Yes, a few steps and not automatic but it is an easy work flow and I know that what I end up with is exactly what I really want For me the ease of use and automation wins out over some tagging inaccuracies, however what I will do is every month or so I use mp3tag to access the files on my vortexbox and correct any tags for new music - the tagging is actually pretty good now and I would say 80% of the time I am happy, however for something recent like Wilko's new album vortexbox didn't return any genre or year tags so I keen to correct that! I also use bliss or the vortexbox 'get cover art' button for cover art which is very good for updating artwork. I guess one of the plus points for vortexbox is that you can easily get in afterwards to correct the results and it includes tools to help that -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
garym;674121 Wrote: Yep, I have it and know how it works but don't use it. A couple of reasons. Mostly because there are not many hours of the day someone is not listening and I might even want to listen at 3:00 in the morning (I love my soft pillow speaker). I know it can wol but don't really want to bother. I sorta think that everything is more trouble free when it just stays on. No evidence for this, just a gut feeling. And leaving it on 24/7 probably adds less than $20 a year to my electric bill! I was the same with mine, did look into the plugin but decided to leave on 24/7 -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Spotify Apps
Hi All Wondered what the views were on spotify apps that were announced yesterday? http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/30/spotify-apps-hands-on/ For me this is a good step forward, I use spotify mainly for new music and playlists, judging by some of the apps that are going to be available this saves me from having to switch between web browser and spotify search and can now get pitchfork, guardian reviews etc within spotify, quite interested to see what the lastFM app is like and other playlist generation tools. I did wonder whether there would technically ever be scope for a Squeezebox app for spotify where you could auto send music to play on a SB player, that would be quite smart if you find music on the spotify desktop/mobile app and send to SB player to play, currently I tend to use spotify app slightly more to find music and add as playlist then play via Triodes plugin rather then search and play with the plugin. ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91983 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
I would have liked to be on the survey, shame it couldn't be opened to forum members! Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
flattermann;672166 Wrote: Yes, thanks, that's already fixed in the Beta and will be included in the upcoming version. Great thanks Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Hi Christian Noticed a potential bug yesterday but may need others to verify, its only minor though. I heavily use the ratings plugin, either by tapping the stars from the main now playing screen or by searching for a song and setting the rating in the context menu (press and hold on a song) - however I noticed that the context menu isn't working, it isn't saving the rating (the main noy playing screen works as expected) I tested this by rating with my Duet controller which recorded ratings through both methods, has anyone else seen this bug? thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
toby10;671764 Wrote: I'm sure there might be a small segment of the streaming population that rely exclusively on services and own no music of their own. But I'd bet the vast majority of service users also have a music collection of varying degrees. I use both myself, my rather smallish music library of a few thousand songs and then I utilize several services for my enjoyment. Those services have indeed influenced numerous purchases of additional artists/albums into my music collection. I do see your point and your interest in completely owning and controlling your music. I simply don't agree that it must be all or nothing, that's all. :) For me the two co-exist nicely, I probably listen to my local music 75% of the time then spotify most of the rest and a small % of internet radio, I used to use LastFM heavily before that became subscription based. Spotify is used for trialling new music, user playlists and the occasional ad hoc album/song I don't have in my collection. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
jo-wie;671786 Wrote: I do not know if it's wise to last only on streaming services. Some people are not happy when they read messages like the following http://www.stholdings.co.uk/2011/11/16/removal-of-content-from-spotify-simfy-rdio-napster/ Yes availability can change, also some albums not available to stream Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
sherington;671037 Wrote: Bought an original SB but have now moved on to a Touch - that pushed me into sorting out the artwork, since one could now see it - the sound quality on the Touch is also fabulous - way better than the old SB, although that really worked well too. The whole thing made me (continuously - to this day) really sort out my tagging, but that is as long a process as ripping was in the first place, wo will take years to get absolutely right! Onwards and upwards Logitech - you have a gem here, with a larger market than you appear to think! I started with a Duet 3.5 years ago, then bought a boom, a radio and 2x Touch - the orginal Duet box isn't used but I still use the controller. All SB players are great and I listen to so much more music now, I ripped my collection with vortexbox and the tags/artwork are in a good condition, not exactly how I would want all of them but due to time constraints (young kid!) I now just enjoy listening to the music with the occasional tagging session. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
I've reduced the amount of time I spent 'working' on my SB/music system this year (first born arrived in Jan), 4 main tools I use to reduce the overhead 1) Reliable server - Invested in a HP proliant microserver which is rock steady, quick and quiet 2) Vortexbox - Installed on above, have had for a number of years and reduces the manual ripping/tagging work 3) Erlands plugins - Use ratings/dynamic playlists, 'top rated' playlists form the bulk of background/casual listening 4) Spotify - Use spotify for other playlists and also for music on the go, this has reduced the time needed to get music onto iphone/android phone for in car and on the go music Before I spent quite a bit of time making sure tags/artwork was correct, still had a lot to go but that has dropped down the priority list, I will probably once a month go in and correct new music tags where I wasn't happy with the vortexbox result (e.g. year or genre incorrect) - I've probably spent more ad-hoc time rating tracks in my library however limited time - I prefer now just to chill out and listen to the music :-) -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
nicolas75;670531 Wrote: You probably never use your library the way a lot of people does. If you want to play some files wherever there are located, without necesseraly keeping them in your database, and make frequent changes to your library, MediaMonkey is really years ahead LMS (ease of use, speed, reliability). The first time I tried MediaMonkey was several years ago, and at that time, it was already much more convenient than LMS is today. There is NO file selection feature in LMS. You have to declare a directory to LMS, and place this file in this directory. If you just want to play a flac file located on a USB stick, and then disconnect the stick and forget about this file, LMS behavior is a nonsense. Your obviously quite frustrated that SBS/LMS doesn't meet your requirement, however I suspect for the majority of users it works well and does what they want - it does for me complimented by Erlands plugins. However I can understand where users get frustrated around playlists, as mentioned I tend to user ratings based playlists and edit on the fly if needed as well as Spotify playlists rather then spending a lot of time myself on creating playlists - I also heavily used the LastFM 'my library' and 'my recommendations' playlists before they started charging - I prefer to get others to do the work rather then spending ages myself creating playlists but every user is different. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
gruntwolla;670645 Wrote: You are pretty strident with your opinions, but when all is said and done that is all they are - opinions. All I want from my squeezebox SERVER is to to stream my flac and mp3 files to my 5 squeezeboxes around the house, and sync them as and when needed. This is exactly what it does. I only ever access the web interface for maintenance. Everything else is done on Squeezecommander. I hardly ever buy cd's anymore - Spotify and Napster work seamlessly, and there are plenty of sites to download hi res files. If a friend should pop by with some flac files on a stick, then admittedly my choice is limited, but as previously stated, no one is suggesting that SBS/LMS can't be improved. However, regarding the things LMS can do that MM cannot - does that make MM behaviour a nonsense? Of course not - one was designed as a player, the other a server. Finally, when I eventually upgrade to my much longed for Cyrus hifi system, you would be welcome to come round to my house and plug your USB stick straight into the back of the amp! Trev LMS is a very effective server with a decent but improvable interface, where it lacks is playlist management IMO however you can add Erlands plugins, ipeng/squeezecommander, other programs to create static playlists or for windows users look into MM/MS on what that offers. In terms of plugging a USB drive then I guess the only option is to transfer into your music folder then you can play from there without having to re-scan -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
Grahame;670650 Wrote: Not True, This feature has been around since pre LMS, it's just non intuitive. Get the file path to the file / folder / directory of interest In the Web Interface Paste this into the Internet Radio - Tune In URL Field Click on the play (Tune in) or Add Buttons See your desired files queued up or played using the file reference , rather than a stream URL. Result. For Bonus Points, work out the request / command sent to LMS generated by this interaction, then embed it in a shell extension, so you could play the file directly from the file system (in much the same way as the foobar2000 Shell / File Explorer Context Menu additions) - Or have an app you could drag and drop the file onto to play them, or whatever Operating system dependent mechanism works for you. The Capability is there - its just how you expose it in a useful manner. interesting, I didn't know that! thats easier to what I mentioned about copying to music folder -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
Atlantic;669471 Wrote: Her focus, rightly in my view, is on music streaming - from the internet, for now, with SQ Radio - though I think she'll need to move up to a SQ radio device that can dock an iPhone or Android phone. (Tech detail: docking not strictly necessary since device could stream over WiFi or BT, but there will be battery issues for the main user, and a dock could provide power and recharge.) But this focus on music streaming is correct because it is the high-volume future, and where Logitech is likely to do well. Hi Atlantic This is a very good point, I think this would appeal to the mass market more, if you think about it the Touch has capability (mixed reviews I think) to load music from USB/SD and play, how different in HL theory is that to plugging in an ipod/iphone and loading music? Perhaps a seperate dock as Sonos went for I guess the challenge would be around software, ability to give the user the option to quickly interact between ipod/iphone (potentially airplay?), 'local' music and internet services whilst still allowing the 3rd party plugins etc. Thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
toby10;669168 Wrote: SqueezeBox is and likely will remain a niche product. Ask your friends how they listen to their digital music over their hi-fi, their own library or a subscription service. The answers will be (in no particular order): - I don't, just use iPod (or mp3 player, smart phone, Zune) with ear buds - iPod dock (standalone or connected to hi-fi) - AVR with networking services - third party box (PS3, Xbox, Roku, Boxee, PopCornHour, WD, Netgear, etc..) - TV (or some other DLNA device) - cable or sat TV digital music ch's - Sat radio XM/Sirius - AirTunes - computer (by itself or connected to AVR) - etc... We all know the negatives of the above vs using a SB player, but those are the likely answers from 80% of the users out there. The only SB users I am aware of are those who have seen my SB players in use and only after I thoroughly demo explain what SB is do they buy. Even then it is very few who do actually buy. In my entire social circles including family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, I've only ever run across a total of two Sonos users out there. and I know a lot of people. Dedicated NMP's like SB Sonos are indeed very niche markets. ;) Not to say there isn't money to be made in these narrow markets, but the numbers are small compared to the lesser devices out there. For my friends the list is even less then that, pretty much all of them are - ipod on its own - ipod in dock - laptop for itunes/spotify/you tube etc. - Through TV A friend at work is really bought into SB's after I lent him my Boom (he has since bought his own and a server with a Touch planned) and I know another friends Dad has a Squeezebox Radio, I know another guy from work who bought a Sonos system a few years back, not sure if he still uses it though -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
Mnyb;669266 Wrote: +1 they should not aim at the massmarket, they should aim at to be biggest in thier niche . a product for music nerds and hifi nuts, I'll bet there is 100 time more music nerds that hifi nuts and shall we gues that 1/10 hifi nut own a squeezebox or a sonos or similar, so they have not come close to saturate thier niche market . I always believed that it is possible to expand 10 to 100 times in this niche ? this would be profitable enough to support the product. I think Logitech would seriusly overeach thier competence if they even tried to aproach massmarket in this kind of product. they done it in mice and pc speakers ,but I don't think they can with this kind of product. A prerequsite 90% of the population don't have is a serius music interest, they just want's a device that plays something A little effort in ripping and tagging on some serius exploring of the apps function for the online services should tweak any music entusiast :) but without a real music interest you wont get involved and explore the product, You wont be motivated to learn a little bit to get so much more back . and seruisly I find some desktop software harder to use than my whole squeezebox system ? dumbing it down would be a serius mistake , there a lot of products that demands a little inital effort to use but loved by thier users . some of my colegues are into diving or waterskiing or motorbikes . I would find scuba gear waterskiis or offroad motorcycles hard to operate and maintain. I would have a learning curve if tried thier stuff I would not blame the product. Some very good points. I want more and SB players give me more - more choice, quicker access, intro to HiFI/Hi-res etc. etc. - the mass market don't want that. I think it is probably hard for us SBE's (squeezebox enthusiasts) to get our head round why joe public wouldn't want a solution as good as ours. However with logitech you have generally a mass market company, mice, keyboards, speakers etc. who bought some niche products - SB, Harmony and also has struggled with another potentially niche product in the Revue - there is a conflict in the product make-up -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The supposed competition
pski;667296 Wrote: So, how long does it take to rebuild an iTunes library? The thing iT supports different libraries. If we are to believe it the iC product can merge all your and your family's stuff. This is not that hard. In windows (does not deserve being capitalized) hold shift and start iT. Make a new one. You can change back by doing the same thing and picking your old iT library. In the settings, point to your secret SBS music directory. You will then also have to get the artwork. It takes a while because apple drags it's entire dev/run time library wherever it goes. This is the same reason why iT on windows is so slow. P I gave up on iTunes a while back, I wanted to use Linux as my desktop and windows/itunes was s slow, I've replaced my iphone with an android phone with spotify as the main music player/source - things are a lot better.. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91334 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Media Server
FredFredrickson;666868 Wrote: Ok so- I had the same password problem. The standard control panel does not work with my password, but I can access the web interface. No biggie, the regular control panel is redundant anyway. As far as features, it's obvious they released this to coincide with the Google TV 2 update for the revue, because now we can stream video from this. The question is: Will we be seeing a merger of television upnp and squeezebox playback? SqueezeboxTV perhaps? the SB touch with video? I will fork over all of my money Unsure of what any plans are, however I did notice that the download page on mysqueezebox.com now refers to Revue and has lines between that and a SB player.. http://www.mysqueezebox.com/download -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91262 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
flattermann;666191 Wrote: Well, I'm not sure yet. But the Tablet version is a completely rewritten App, therefore I'll probably also sell it as separate App. So, the answer of your question is probably 'no'. You cannot upgrade for free from the current Classic version to the future Tablet version. Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk Hi Christian Are you working on a tablet version of SC? This would be good news to me, looking to get a tablet early next year and obviously would prefer an android version, a tablet version of SC would be the last tick in the box to get one! I think it should be a seperate app with another income stream for you cheers Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
JJZolx;665822 Wrote: I think that sums it up quite well. Turns out that the 'slim' client-server approach used by Slim Devices was totally wrong for the consumer market. That's how we ended up with so much reliance on mysqueezebox.com, and with products marketed not for their ability to play your own music, but for their ability to play low audio quality service like Pandora and Rhapsody. I've mentioned a few times that I believe a 'Touch 2' with beefed up spec and ability to support plug and play USB stick/external HDD would be a lot easier to sell - not just as its easier to understand, it removes the server on a pc element and also quite a handy way of demo-ing in places like PC world. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
warpian;665836 Wrote: I am with Paul Raulerson, if only for his imaginative way of putting things! I really want to hook up a asynchronous USB dac to a SB, which at this moment is not really feasible. Soundcheck (with his Touch Toolbox) made the USB port available for output, but the USB driver on the Touch is too old (not class 2 audio capable). So I would really like to see Logitech put an updated Touch on the market with an newer USB driver. That's why this thread interests me. However, we can make this work using Squeezeslave on e.g. a fanless FitPC (which is smaller than a duet and with a SSD is completely silent). The only hurdle is to make hi res work in Squeezeslave. Which unfortunately is not an endeaver for the faint of heart as Ralphy explained to me. You may say: I am loosing the bigger picture here... but once we have an (audiophile) alternative for the SB hardware, we are pretty much on our own. Let people who just want streaming services use their iPads and iPhones etc. They can stream whatever an App Store or Android Market app has to offer directly to a DAC already today (have a look at Arcam's rDAC with support for Kleer). Eventually the SB concept will probably loose out to this type of solution for the mass market. But let the mass market be the mass market. I dont see any reason why the SB server x client solution wouldnt be able to survive as a niche open source initiative for a bunch of well-bred enthusiasts :-) But as Erland says, there are no signs from Logitech that they are about to abandon the SB yet. So why worry anyway? thus my two cents Tom I think because stock is getting low and its been 2 years since any new products have been launched that people are speculating on the future, most taking a pessimistic view that Logitech are looking to pull the plug -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
gruntwolla;665626 Wrote: I think all this stems ( for me anyway) in disappointment that whenever I go into a hifi shop ( something I'm doing quite frequently at the moment ) there is always a sonos system on display ready for a demo, whereas one can only buy Squeezeboxen online nowadays. That is fine for those of us who know what Squeezebox is all about, but it doesn't suggest much commitment to the brand from Logitech. In a shop, if a couple of Touches were available to demo through decent speakers,with knowledgable staff on hand,then I think we all know they would sell. I am more than happy with what squeezebox/sbs/mysb.com does at the moment - just disappointed that it seems that in the future inferior systems will prevail. Trev Hi Trev I went to the Manchester HiFi show last sunday, which I enjoyed, Logitech had no presence at all there - from a streaming perspective Sonos had a stand as did Simple Audio (although I managed to miss it!) - There was also the big hulk boxes of Naim, Cyrus etc which looked big, bulky and a bit dated compared to Sonos/SB. One dealer had an OliveHD unit, nice UI but not touch screen and again a very big unit. Quite a few dealers were demo-ing iPad's into DACs. I did overhear some people talking about SB products so I imagine some existing/potential users attended however what is disappointing is that the marketing is non existent for SB products. I too have found nothing on display in HiFi shops also Thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
castalla;664663 Wrote: A bit off topic - but it all seems a bit of a storm in a teacup. What real world use is a track rating system anyway - it's sort of like OCD trainspotting in my book. If I rate a track as rubbish, borderline, uninteresting, then I just dump it. I also recognise what are '5 star' albums, tracks, etc. without the need for a statistic. I suppose if you have 1000s of tracks then you might need some rating system - but then how often are you going to actually listen to 1 or 2 star tracks anyway? Seems a rather esoteric feature to be part of the core system. I'd rather Logitech spent their time and resources developing a usable equaliser plugin. Just my 2 eurocents worth. We use trackstat quite heavily to rate the tracks we like, from that I pull out various dynamic playlists e.g. Top Rated 80s, 00s, indie, pop etc - these general use playlists are used heavily. I have about 20k tracks and approx 2k 'top rated' ones spanning various genres/decades -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
mherger;664438 Wrote: Well, I've just tried to use my long-standing, pre-existing installation of Multi-Library, which I was not aware of upgrading, and it's demanding the licensing plug in. That appears to be retrospective charging, in that it disables an existing service and then demands payment without notice, and would therefore appear to be illegal under EU law. You should sue Erland. Really. After offering his services for years he now wants to have a beer? This must be illegal. Guys, your postings are poor jokes. -- Michael Agree here, Erland has put a massive effort in supporting and developing the playlists, just be thankful you got years of free usage and free support, if you want to continue then pay up or if not don't If the price is too much then how about paying for a year at a lower cost and then saving up over the year for the lifetime cost Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
cunobelinus;664441 Wrote: On 20 Oct 2011, at 12:38, Michael Herger wrote: Well, I've just tried to use my long-standing, pre-existing installation of Multi-Library, which I was not aware of upgrading, and it's demanding the licensing plug in. That appears to be retrospective charging, in that it disables an existing service and then demands payment without notice, and would therefore appear to be illegal under EU law. You should sue Erland. Really. After offering his services for years he now wants to have a beer? This must be illegal. Guys, your postings are poor jokes. -- Michael OK, if you like. I have no objection whatever to people charging for their work, but within the law. Retrospective charging is not. I wouldn't dream of telling someone I was making a gift of something - anything - and then enforcing payment for it after my gift had been accepted. This have a beer argument is spurious and utterly disingenuous. Fancy a pint? OK Here it is. That's 20 Euros, please. Pathetic, Michael, truly pathetic. Pay it or don't, sometimes life brings up some tough luck, and in the grand scheme of things this is pretty small fryIMO Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
Soulkeeper;664454 Wrote: Oh, so this is why Custom Browse doesn't work anymore (I haven't read this thread before). I occasionally used it to browse artist by letter. Oh well. I guess I can do without. It was of course noble of Erland to make this plugin for free originally. But marketing-wise, I can't help thinking that nag-ware (or, well, anything, really) would have been more psychologically effective than the give-and-then-take-away approach. After all, software, and especially UI, is at least 50% psychology. Too many developers fail to realize that. I doubt marketing came into any initial plans, it was probably born from a technical interest in improving squeezeboxserver, then as the years have gone by the overhead of running the plugins has increased - at that point I think for Erland it was a stop the plugins or get some financial compensation -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
reniera;664470 Wrote: Michael, are you from Logitech ? If you are not, fine, I respect your opinion and don't read further. If you are, I can tell you that you have no idea what such statement can create in term of bad feeling about a company and products that were once so desired. You seriously meant that we have to pay for fixing your product ? Realy, if you are from Logitech, you better be back to dev. work and add this basic code in 7.6.3 and close the discussion. wrong - its not fixing the product, squeezebox is open source so anyone can develop a plugin of which there are a wide variety, its enhancing the base server software not fixing it. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
cunobelinus;664473 Wrote: On 20 Oct 2011, at 13:21, Soulkeeper wrote: Oh, so this is why Custom Browse doesn't work anymore (I haven't read this thread before). I occasionally used it to browse artist by letter. Oh well. I guess I can do without. I've never previously attempted to use Multi Library, despite downloading it some months ago. I tried to do so this time only as an experiment for this thread. I can certainly do without it. That's not the point. It was of course noble of Erland to make this plugin for free originally. But marketing-wise, I can't help thinking that nag-ware (or, well, anything, really) would have been more psychologically effective than the give-and-then-take-away approach. And would have been within the law. Perhaps, though, Erland likes the thrill of putting himself outside it and then getting his mates to shout sue him; or is happy in the the knowledge that he is behaving in a way that the legislative bodies of the EU and its constituent states - representative of how many million people? - have agreed is so shabby and dishonest that it should not be allowed. Well, a couple of days ago, I might well have paid for future updates for this - despite not using it - and maybe for those of a couple more of his plug ins that I've got on the system but never or very rarely used. I'd have been happy to do so for future updates, too, if I used them and had been given a choice. But I'm certainly not paying for them now. After all, software, and especially UI, is at least 50% psychology. Too many developers fail to realize that. Too many developers can't even spell it (let alone psychology). Would love to see you take this to the european court of law, go for it, the majority will just sit back and listen to some music complimented by Erlands excellent plugins, but do keep us all updated with progress of your legal adventure if you decide to go for it -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
cunobelinus;664491 Wrote: +1. Perfect summary. On 20 Oct 2011, at 14:39, Phil Leigh wrote: Just to be clear, I have no issue with Erland choosing to charge people for his work going forward - that is his inalienable right. However, nobody SHOULD provide anything - under licence or under contract - for free or for a price - and then disable it or disable it until a fee is paid... UNLESS it was spelled out at the time of supply (i.e. as a Licence/contract term) that this could or would happen. I'm not saying anyone should or even could sue anyone - that's just silly. I was talking about the general case of retrospective modification of contract or license terms which is normally something only Governments can do with impunity... !! ok so legally there is a potential conflict, what are you going to do next? Your options look like 1) Legally take it further 2) Write your own version of the plugins which is legally correct and keep them free fully in your control 3) use previous versions of plugins which are still free 4) Swallow the conflict and pay for the plugins Despite the legal issue I'm still sticking with 4) -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New SWAP forum proposition
gizek;664004 Wrote: Some of us here, have posted various SB items for sale. Personally I managed to conduct a few successful transactions. Since there is no separate forum or rules regarding posting items for sale/wanted, I propose to create a new forum. It might not be a high traffic area but at least people would know where to go. For sure many people would find it very helpful. What do you think ? *** Hello I think it is a very good idea, would be good for people to go into one place to view them - particularly with stock running low for some products ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
reniera;663940 Wrote: I respect your opinion, but seriously, track rating and play count were present in all media players I used in the past (winamp, itunes, mediamonkey, Windows Media players, ipod, ipad). I would agree on ratings being important and central to a number of other products, however as a comparison Sonos (I believe could be wrong) doesn't have any support for ratings. For the record the 2 important Erland plugins I use are Trackstat and Dynamic Playlists based on the ratings, a lot of our listening is based on Top Rated All, pop, rock, indie, 80s, 90s, 00s etc. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
exile;663874 Wrote: bottom line in my opinion is that erland's plugins have completely transformed my listening experience. so if erland now feels that in order to keep these fantastic plugins going that he needs some modest revenue then I think a modest charge is just fine. If people are too cheap then it's their loss. spot on -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] question re: forum rules
Hi All I'm about to list a SB related item on eBay, I was going to post a link on here however don't want to break any forum rules - Never really see anything for sale on here so I'm guessing its not allowed. Can someone please confirm for me? thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sonos at target
unfortunately Logitech doesn't seem to market Squeezebox at all I'm off to the Manchester (UK) show www.manchestershow.co.uk at the end of this month, Sonos have a display and there is an airplay demo with Denon however no sign of Logitech -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90930 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
T-bird;662223 Wrote: Have you tried to set Ignore WIFI status under settings? Since I done that I haven't had any connection problems and I have the same phone Before it was a 50-50 chance to get it to connect, and if it didn't I had to toggle wifi off-on Hello T-Bird, Thanks for this tip, I have checked that setting and will monitor. Christian - also dropped you a mail to join the beta group Cheers Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
dave77;662411 Wrote: socistep, what version of SBS do you run, I have an HTC Desire HD and have not had any problems with SC, I've been using it for about a year now. Hi Dave I was running 7.5.3 then upgraded to 7.6.1, the problem was seen on both versions thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Christian and tbird - good news, looks like changing the ignorewifi setting has fixed my problem, I've been on and off wireless 3 times today and each time SC has connected correctly, it seems quicker as well Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Hi Christian, Normally I would see the problem when I had not been connected to wireless then reconnected and it wouldn't work, e.g. popping out to shops with SC still running. Restarting SC wouldn't fix the problem, the only way was to toggle WiFi off and on and the restart SC However today it has worked after being out this morning, last night I did get an Android update so perhaps this has fixed it, will keep monitoring and report back Thanks Ian Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Hi Christian, Unfortunately the problem is still there as described above, has happened 2-3 times since yesterday morning. Thanks Ian Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
flattermann;661935 Wrote: Sound like a plan, but no, sorry, I'm still around. (But I can understand your anger and I'm really sorry. But I promise you that I'll be much more active again now.) Hi Christian Great to see you back and also that nothing serious had happened! Congratulations on becoming a father, my son is 9 months old and I know how much time/energy they take up. I wasn't angry just a bit frustrated as really like Squeezecommander but it disconnects a lot with HTC desire HD, happy to work with you to troubleshoot that one. Cheers Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
pippin;661173 Wrote: Well, the problem is that Android users don't really buy Apps. If you look at the App market you will see that as of the NUMBER of Apps, Android is at least at par with iOS right now, however if you look at the App REVENUES, iOS Apps still hold like 90% of the market. Now add to that that there are actually free options available on Android, one of them from Logitech and you don't really get something that churns out enough money to make it your first priority in life... I disagree Pippin, this is a paid app, on Android marketplace it is showing that it has between 10,000 and 50,000 downloads and believe it cost £3. On that basis then the income could potentially be between £30,000 and £150,000 - obviously I don't know whether the developer gets 100% of the app fee and what costs there are to develop/maintain, you will probably know a lot more then me. However to me that is potentially a very good income from the application. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
pippin;661237 Wrote: I believe I know the numbers and it's closer to 30.000£ than to 150.000£. Plus, a lot of that was BEFORE the Logitech App came out. Google gets 30% and the tax man between 25% and 50% so do your math, how many years can you live off that? It's the same with iPeng. iPeng is still doing fine in comparison but it's at the brink of what justifies a full-scale effort. I would probably not start to develop it know if I didn't already have it. Logitech keeps changing so much on the Squeezebox System that you can't just sit back and keep counting money. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that it should be first priority, far from it, and hope everything is ok with Christian. The actual income % is very interesting so thanks for sharing. However at £30,000 less google amount and tax of 40% its still 13k (which is the bare minimum) which on top of main job, again still a decent amount to make - for then to communicate once in 5 months isn't great. There would be potential to make more money had this been supported well, an android tablet version would be very popular IMO - squeezecommander has the basis of a very good app but is buggy and unsupported in its current form for many users. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
pippin;661240 Wrote: I believe since most of the issues with the App are still more customer-service kind of issues than real technical issues with the App he would do himself a bad favor with that kind of strategy. For me its a technical issue, the app keeps disconnecting from the SB server, for some reason the only way to resolve is to toggle wifi on and off, I can't consistently use for longer then 15-30mins. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
bluegaspode;661242 Wrote: Just to do the math correctly for the Google World: He had 5000 sales in April 2010 and 10.000 sales in Feb. 2011 (can be seen on other sites). So expect him to be at 14.000 right now. (Also expect that his daily sales will have drastically dropped since there is the free Logitech App). In Okt. 2009 he released the first version, so he is involved for 2 1/2 year with this project. Google takes 30% share, German income tax again around 30%. Social insurance contributions 20%. VAT shouldn't apply for him as I think he configured Google to add it to each purchase where applicable. Accountant to support his GmbH might be around 3000 / year, purchasing some common test devices one needs for Android development will be 1000. Even if we don't substract german taxes and social contributions and calculate it from his companies point of view: 14.000*3/2,5y*0,7 - 2y*3000 - 1000 = 4760 / year = 400 / month. Economically at common rates 400 justify 4h of development or support per month, now much less due to the Logitech App. If he just paid it out to himself, he'd get around 200 / month. People not working at all in Germany get around 700 / month (Hartz 4 + Wohngeld). Don't want to argue, if it's a good income or not. Everyone has to decide for himself, if it's a good decision to stick (or start) with Squeezebox App development as a hobby. At least one shouldn't try to found a company based on those numbers ;) I think you also need to consider that the app was on sale for 6euros at some point, according to the website, also there was a major rewrite in May - see post #440 - I bought on the back of this and many other would have done, so potentially would have seen a peak in May. I guess this is the risk that you take in purchasing an app that the developer may reprioritise -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Tablet
I too have my eye on a Android tablet. Unfortunately Android is lagging behind Apple apps for both smartphone and tablet - the best products look to be iPeng and Squeezepad. On Android there is squeezecommander for a smartphone but if you check out the thread on that it has been unsupported for a while by the author - I was hoping that iPeng/Squeezepad could be ported or hopefully someone else is working on a tablet app - I think that will be the push I need to get an android tablet -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Bytec;659974 Wrote: No news about Squeezebox Commander and no activity in bug tracker page. :( Is Squeezebox Commander dead? I've concluded the author developed a decent product, made some money and disappeared leaving us with a buggy product and him upgrading to an executive box at Borussia Dortmund :-) -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
pippin;660231 Wrote: Well, I can relieve you on the latter part: he did already have pretty much one of the best seats you can get in Dortmund's stadium before so no reason for updating. And a real fan would never ever go to an executive box, wouldn't he? No, I'd really tend to believe he's probably still very busy with his new-born son and moving into his new home. haha that is true, I wouldn't ever go in an executive box out of choice - however my Dad won a competition at work for a box at Old Trafford in April so I will watch Everton (lose) for the first time in a posh box! I think you are right Pippin however it is frustrating for the users who have invested in the product that we aren't getting the support - you'd never have that on ipeng... -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do Squeezebox owners marry dim women?
My other half uses the SBs and ipeng and likes listening to music but doesn't have a massive interest in it, she does get annoyed when I press the wrong button and start playing the living room player when she is watching tv :-) Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Jacobb;657348 Wrote: Yes and yes ;-) 7.5.3 to 7.6.1 Good news! Hopefully this works for me and others, I'm actually getting a new server this week which I'll be putting 7.6.1 on so I can compare to my other server which runs 7.5.3 -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Jacobb;656730 Wrote: Hi,I found the source of my connection problems. I needed to update my sb server to the latest version. Apparently squeezecommander is not backwards compatible. All works fine for me again. Tx for great app , jacob Hi Jacob Can you elaborate a bit further, e.g. what version were you on and what did you upgrade to (I'm guessing to 7.6.1?). I've got connection problems with my HTC Desire HD and I'm using 7.5.3 I believe so not at the cutting edge, interested to see whether the server upgrade would solve the problem. Can others also comment on their connection problems and what version of SB server they are using thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox (and others) on IFA trade show in Berlin
I find it very frustrating, there are some great products in the SB line and a loyal and dedicated user community some of who are producing some excellent add-ons to enhance the system. Yet Logitech have cut the team, reduced the marketing and seemingly has no strategy for the future - its sad to see how weak the product line looks against Sonos and Streamium in those pictures I'm happy with the way my system works, I have 4 zones (plus one player boxed), a vortexbox server and it all hangs together well - however we all want to play with new toys and look for improvements to what we have - its part of being into gadgets/technology/streamers -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] new features on iPad: SqueezePad 1.8.0 hits the store!
Hi Stefan Squeezepad looks fantastic, will you ever be producing an android tablet equivilant application? I have my eye on a samsung galaxy tab for early next year but a swaying factor would be for controlling Squeezebox players cheers Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89562 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
My desire HD loses connection, not sure what causes and won't auto reconnect. The only way to solve is to turn wireless off and on. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Goodsounds;652607 Wrote: I'm wondering if this project is showing signs of being orphaned? He dropped off the radar screen for several months with no advance warning, popped back up for one quick posting, and then went away again for what's now been another two weeks. I hope not, but, hmmm. yes potentially seems that way...still waiting for the HTC desire HD connection issue to be fixed... Christian - Please can you give an update on whether you'll be working on this project again? -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] spotify - track not available in your region - confused
Hi All Am aware there has been discussion about this before, e.g. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17002 However am confused by the issue here, for example, today I queued up the new album by Bombay Bicycle Club which is available to listen in UK region as a pre-release - the first time it worked perfectly on my Squeezebox, however this evening I've gone to listen to it again and I keep getting the 'track not available in your region' message via both the official and triodes plugin routes. When I play on desktop or HTC phone app it plays fine but not on SB, I've tried deleting and re-adding etc. but still won't play. Does anyone know why it would play once and then not after that? quite frustrating! Thanks in advance Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...
autopilot;651003 Wrote: For me... 1. Cost. 2. A portable battery powered option for the garden etc. 3. The third party BBC iplayer plugin 4. Having a screen on the players. 5. Being able to use an IR remote as well (made posible by point 3). 4. 5. for me are very important and often get overlooked, I don't want to faff around with my smartphone all the time to control the music - the touch IR remote is excellent. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify sound quality
SilverRS8;650992 Wrote: Spotify is 320kbps. The highest compressed quality. I believe information of the stream is accessible by the 'more info' menu. I've got Spotify and think its great. However not all tracks are at 320kbps, there are a couple of blogs on the web about it, I do notice a difference with some albums but overall the quality is good for me -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89455 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...
kweller;649116 Wrote: Me too although I'm not sure about the 'slightly' nor 'keeping me occupied' as once they're done they're done. If my experience is anything to go by I would stay there. I'm much happier now as I have a working system once again but it took a while to get there. Installing 7.5.3 on top of 7.6.1 didn't resolve my issues so I uninstalled everything and installed 7.6.1 as a clean install. That sorted out the Classics but the Touch was still displaying the wrong track information. I then uninstalled 7.6.1 and installed 7.5.3 which sorted everything out. I long ago gave up on wireless SQB connection but I don't think that's the fault of the hardware, wireless is horrible in this house for some reason even with repeaters. Now they are all wired things are much more stable and when it works I love it. As I think I said earlier I don't install betas but I do install the 'released' versions. It causes issues lots of times even though I clear and rescan, reboot the server and turn round three times while chanting (perhaps it should be four times?) so I'm my own worst enemy really. I think I'm learning that when I have a version that works, and 7.5.3 does, I should stick with it unless there's a compelling reason for me to take the new release. Kevin re: tagging - I've got quite a bit to go to get it how I want it, however I prioritised concentrating on top rated tracks and making sure the genre/years are correct. I ripped my library with a vortexbox and although it was very quick there was quite a bit of tag work to do. Agree Re: versions, I was probably more like you last year but my son was born in Jan so spending ages on SB system is well down the priority list, its stable for me* so have left it on a few versions behind, I rate songs and do tagging but mainly I concentrate on listening to the music :-) * stable apart from the baby monitor which can zap the wireless when a decent distance from the router, SB doesn't do too bad but causes rebuffering - laptop and smartphone seem to struggle more -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Good to see you back, I thought you might have been drinking all.summer celebrating Dortmunds title! I still use SC but have the connection problems on my HTC desire HD which a few of us mentioned just before you went Cheers Ian Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...
Its 3 years since I bought my first SB product which was a Duet, I now have 4 zones - 2 touch's, a Radio and a Boom, the Duet has been mothballed! I still love the product range and what it gives me, listen to so much more music and also gave me the introduction into getting more HiFi kit that I've always wanted. I'm also a bit of a geek with slight OCD for which managing the tags on a collection keeps me occupied, I like the technology side and I love music so I've no regrets. I'm not on the cutting edge of software running 7.5.3 with a vortexbox on a server, it runs very well probably 95% of the time, there are issues now and again - mainly with the baby monitor zapping wireless and outages at spotify end but the pro's FAR outweigh the con's for me. I did look into Sonos 3 years ago but was put off by 3 main reasons 1) the cost - Although now slightly cheaper with the advent of smartphone controllers 2) Lack of options/customisation - couldn't function without my dynamic playlists from Erland for example 3) Lack of on-player controls/display - I get home, I press a preset button on my Radio and music plays through all of downstairs, no need to get phone out, open app, navigate menu etc. etc., plus the bundled IR remote with the Touch are great! I don't think its a VHS v Betamax debate, Sonos have a very different product range, some will love it but for a lot of people it isn't the choice for them -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify invitation
Hi All I have a spotify subscription and think its great to be honest, the main pro's for me - Availability - great range of songs, not sure how it stacks up against Napster/Rhapsody in terms of million of songs though - Playlists - This is a killer feature for me, ability to search and find playlists from other users, you can get any type of playlist for any situation and cuts out doing a lot of work yourself! For example one of my favourite playlists is a BBC 6music weekly radio playlist playlist, updated each week and great for finding new music - this trumps iTunes, Napster etc. for me - Offline usage - I use spotify on the go on iphone/HTC phones, cut out the manual element of maintaining a mp3 collection - Software - very slick, updates automatically from iphone, HTC phone, Squeezebox, Linux desktop software, as soon as a choose a playlist on one devices its automatically on the other cons - Not all music is available - recent example is the Arctic Monkeys album not being on spotify so I just bought the CD without trialling - Viewing your music isn't comparable to SB, music is organised by playlists as opposed to artist/album/genre/playlist etc. options you get in SB server - I think this will get better I still buy CD's but trial all my new music on spotify first before only buying the stuff I like Thats my views, any questions please let me know! cheers Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify invitation
MeSue;640739 Wrote: I just joined. Still figuring it out. Here's my profile if anyone wants to send me music to try: http://open.spotify.com/user/mesue Here's my best of 2011 playlist :-) a work in progress! http://open.spotify.com/user/socistep/playlist/62z2B6UoyMTiIUAh4OqFWQ -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Baby Monitor impacting wireless network?
Hi all Slightly off my original topic but still wireless related. Just returned from holiday and switched power back on, noticed problems with wireless for smartphones and also my SB boom which is probably furthest away from router, rebuffering and losing connection to server. I wondered whether a Nintendo Wii which also connects wirelessly might impact, sure enough once I disconnected then wireless strength improved, no devices having connection issues and SB server working well. As per the original topic then this might improve performance when the monitor is on, perhaps the Wii was flooding the router or something Ian Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I vent?
jimzak;637177 Wrote: Pre-SB, I was merely a collector of music. Now I am listening constantly whenever I am home. I have one of everything, all controllable via my iPad or my Android phone or scattered controllers. The only chore I have now is converting my CD collection to .flac; I foresee that going on for another 3-5 years. I'll hit file 100,000 in the next week or so. Same here for me, I had a Cd player but didn't really listen enough, its now 3 years since I bought my first SB system and listen to so much more - not just my music but also background music around the house. The state of my music collection still needs work, particularly to get genre's and years corrected - I automated ripping via a vortexbox but the tagging isn't as good as it would be on say dbpoweramp but it enabled me to rip quickly and box CD's up into the loft -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Baby Monitor impacting wireless network?
Hi All Thanks for the replies. I actually tried changing the router channel, it was previously on 11 so moved to 13, will check again to see whether the problem gets any better. In terms of homeplugs then I've used before and didn't have a great record with them plus may struggle with plugs in downstairs rooms, don't really want to get 4 plug jack etc. That leaves another baby monitor which is wifi friendly or a security cam type option, if the problem causes a lot of inconvienience then I may look further into these Thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Baby Monitor impacting wireless network?
Hi All Has anyone got any tips for reducing the impact of a video baby monitor on wireless networks? (ethernet isn't an option unfortunately). The monitor is operating on the same frequency of 2.4ghz. Realised on friday when I was sat in the conservatory listening to headphone through Touch/amp and using my laptop how much the monitor was impacting causing rebuffering/cut-outs on the Touch and a much bigger impact onto the laptop. I did some speed tests with and without the monitor on via laptop and was getting about 9-10mbps with it off and 2mbps with it on and causing router drops etc. Impact isn't really consistent as it seems to be less impact when monitor is in living room and within a couple of metres of the router however we like to listen to a lot of music in the evening and would like to reduce impact. Any tips appreciated! thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Baby Monitor impacting wireless network?
maggior;637272 Wrote: You might want to make a more radical change in channel. If it was on 11, moving it to channel 13 may not make a huge difference. Moving it to channel 1 though would be quite significant. very good point! thanks -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
Some thoughts from me... Slim Devices was very much an advanced niche product bought by a company that generally deals in mass market peripherals, it seems to me that the old slim devices team/products have become lost in the big logitech pool, treading water, all marketing has been removed, the team has been reduced and no-one knows whether additional products will be released. On the plus side, the Touch and Radio products were well received I believe, would be interested to see the sales stats for those also. On top of that user habits have changed in the last few years, I think with the advent of smartphones that a lot of people want jack of all trade devices for home, and as mentioned music systems seem to be less of importance compared to tv/home theatre type systems and thats where the money for streaming will be spent more I believe in the future. The SB product range is for music fans generally however doesn't have the mass market appeal - lets face it the mass market either runs iTunes from a PC, has an ipod/iphone docked music player or a way of plugging their ipod/iphone into - having network streamed players is beyond the capabilities of most. Sonos appeals more to people with more cash as its plug and play but they have desperately tried to hang-on to the Apple generation by pushing iPhone/iPad apps/ipod docks more then their own controllers for example. I don't know which way the product line will go, for me my current set-up works very well and as a music lover I can't ask for anymore, I have all my local music mixed with internet radio and online services, sure there are improvements here and there but it does exactly what I want -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Guy48065;634446 Wrote: Still no answer? Last I knew he was traveling--went to Google IO--but should have returned by now. I emailed him about his tracker server possibly being down got a reply on the 12th but I still can't log in and haven't gotten a reply to my followup email on the 26th. Somebody must know... Its been a month since Christian was on the site and also on his twitter feed, so I hope that all is ok with him -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Spotify app: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor
sadglad;634122 Wrote: I can only play one song in Spotify (logitechs app) on my Squeezebox Radio, then it goes silent and tries to play the other songs in the playlists but skips to the next one after a while. Also silent. After a while it says: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor. What can I do? It worked normally a couple of weeks ago. I have the latest squeezebox server on my PC and my NAS. Hi I had a problem last night with a similar message, I had 2x Touch and a radio synced up and was playing a playlist, quite a few times I was getting the message saying something like Connection Timed Out: No Error It would skip to the next song after that, I was guessing it was a problem at the Spotify end as opposed to something wrong with Squeezebox server? ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88067 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Has anyone heard from Christian aka Flattermann? This was quite an active thread and Christian was turning round support queries quickly however I noticed that Christian hasn't posted since the 13th -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Fozzy;631885 Wrote: I am having the same trouble on an HTC Desire-Z running Anroid 2.2.1, i.e. the latest official HTC ROM for that phone. I don't have to go out of WiFi coverage for the problem to appear - just use SqueezeCommander in the morning then go back and try to use it later in the day and find my server is shown in the list as disconnected and choosing Connect does nothing - no error message and no indication of becoming connected. Hi Again I noticed the same last night with my Desire HD, I was listening to some music with Squeezecommander enabled, it connected fine first time then suddenly disconnected when I tried to skip a track, I also noticed that it wasn't pulling back any cover art. It was showing as disconnected and connect wouldn't work as the user above had. Thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
T-bird;631679 Wrote: I have same phone running stock android 2.3.3 Also same problem, no need to restart phone just toggle wifi off/on and I get connected. As long as I'm home I can quit the app and always get connected again without problem, leaving home so I loose my wifi I have the same connection problem again when I'm back Another thing is it always sync a lot when connecting, my libaray is about 8K and sync always start somewhere round 2200 and counting down Hi T-Bird Sounds like its a problem with our phone/version of android, I also have the same problem when leaving home and returning as you explained. Christian - please can you review? Thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Hi Christian As per my post above I love the new version of the app. However I am having problems on my HTC Desire HD, basically I am having problems connecting to my server, it seems to me that if I have been in Squeezecommander once, exit and then re-open it won't find my local server, it just comes up as disconnected and then when I click to connect it won't. The only way I have to solve this problem is to restart my phone and then it connects as expected automatically. Please can you advise on what I should do to investigate and I'll also supply any information you need Thanks Ian -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
The new version is a great leap forward, looks a lot better and all the functionality gaps have been plugged...I wasn't expecting it to improve so much when I upgraded. Thanks Flatterman -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to manage playlists ?
1. What kind of device would you like to use when doing advanced playlist management ? A normal computer/laptop ? A tablet ? A netbook ? Something else ? Normal computer and when I get one later in the year then a tablet 2. Do you have any examples of good playlist management user interfaces in some other app which you feel has solved the problem in a good user friendly way ? I'm not a massive fan of Apple products much but I actually like iTunes for playlists and also banshee on Ubuntu, the main thing for manual playlists for me is to bve able to view my collection and search easily and then also review other playlists 3. Is there a reason you would like to continue using the third party application you currently use even if a better user interface for playlist management would be offered through SBS ? Only for managing my old ipod 4. Is it important to integrate it with some other application ? For example integration with dragdrop with the operating system file manager or something similar ? Not for me 5. In case not already answered in question 2 and 4, do you have some ideas what kind of features or user interface layout you think is important for advanced playlist management ? Mentioned above, also I would like to be able to link to dynamic/smart playlists, e.g. so I could quickly review my 5* tracks and pull out tracks from there - that would be a great feature, so for example there is about 1000 tracks in that and I could get into that and pull out 100 tracks for a specific reason 6. How do you do advanced playlist management today ? Which app ? From a computer, laptop, tablet or something else ? Mainly Banshee on a laptop which creates an m3u into the playlists folder, I also use the playlist However I would also say that my time spent producing manual playlists now is pretty minimal, I use 2 main sources to get my playlists 1) Your excellent dynamic playlists plugin and specifically a 'top rated tracks', this is the heaviest used playlist on my setup, we use this for casual listening/having friends round etc. 2) Spotify playlists - Since getting a spotify premium subscription then I use spotify playlists a lot, choosing from my android phone mainly via sharemyplaylists.com -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87372 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squidget - A SqueezeBox Widget for Android
ganjastone;625535 Wrote: Hi Arris, Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate any feedback that enable me to improve Squidget. Android Widgets are very limited, but even so they are such a killer feature that I can't understand how Apple didn't integrate something similar. It was one of the main reasons for me to choose Android over iPhone. I'm indeed aware of the screen state (on / off) and will poll status every 5 seconds in the coming release when the screen is on. I also take the comment regarding the player icon and will go over all layouts to enlarge it. I suggest you try the other layouts. I think you might find the 4x2 very convenient and it spares some real estate. It shows the basic controls people use most and you can switch its layout to less used controls pressing on the orange button on the side (4x1 uses the same layout toggling but the controlling buttons are a bit smaller (still they fit perfectly on my HTC Desire HD) and I guess if you have small display / large fingers / low co-ordination (like my wife :)) you won't find it useful). Avi I've recently moved from an iPhone to a HTC Desire HD and IMO the OS is head and shoulders above iOS (I do miss iPeng though!) - I love the widgets and having all the information I want quick to hand, I will take a look at your widget shortly -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86993 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
Couple of things from me 1) Touch 2 Has been mentioned numerous times before, one of two options - Upgraded CPU/memory etc. so that full server can be ran on device and enabling USB HDD plugin to be successfull for all, I think this has the potential to be a great feature as TinySBS has been well received by a lot of people - Integrated Touch with ripping solution, someone mentioned before but a one stop box that rips/tags CD's and then acts as a player, this would fully remove the 'server' element which confuses the masses. Potentially like a Brennan JB7/vortexbox mixed with a SB Touch 2) Smart streaming An update to the OS so that it brings in an element of 'smart' decisioning on your music libraries - Links Spotify, LastFM etc. with your local music more effectively - Provides recommendations up front on new music or if an artist you have in your collection releases a new album, again linking lastFM, spotify etc. to your local music - Download sync - You can easily download from Amazon, HDTracks etc. into your SB via on screen rather then having to go onto seperate pc, this would be powerful if you linked with recommendations This could be a feature that you can turn on or off as required -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
