i think the lcd should be color on the remote, but i see no harm in
having a secondary video output to a tv or whatever, superimposing
info.
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I have read with interest some of the responses on this thread and they
are very varied indeed. Personally, I like to keep an open mind however
I do think that Logitech have a steep climb if they want to establish
themselves in the high-end audio market.
I must say that I have always been very
earthbased;150284 Wrote:
I think a cool idea would be for the SB to have a video output so lyrics
and album info/art could be shown on the TV.
Not crazy about the idea unless it doesn't take away from the focus on
the LCD. I bought a squeezebox cuz I didn't want to have to use a TV to
listen
i've been watching and following slim since the first days. i currently
have 4 squeezebox3 units and have resold my older units to friends and
family. i have too say that this announcement brings a bit of sadness
to my life. although i know there are examples of
I was shocked when I read the announcement. However following the thread
gives some hope.
I hope that a product in the upper consumer range like the squeezebox
will still be marketed under the slimdevices brand name. I really
wouldn't like to have a Logitech product on my stereo.
And I really
I hope this means parallel streams of new product development. I for one
fancy a WiFi connected portable Slimserver compatible player. Just up
Logitechs' street.
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Mitch Harding;150093 Wrote:
I, on the other hand, would purchase Microsoft hifi if it sounded good.
The
label doesn't affect the sound.
On 10/26/06, P Floding
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wrote:
That is the way it works in the connoisseur
dwc;150096 Wrote:
I on the other hand have been part of a small company that was *not
*acquired by a larger one.
It went out of business as players with much bigger budgets stomped the
market.
Sean did the right thing for Slim Devices.
Actually, in our case we might as well have been
Now when you mention it.
I had one of those black spherical ones that looked quite funky when
they came out. It was USB (so was advanced for its time). Support for
it was just dropped for no apparent reason not long after I got it.
Made me mad as hell as those things weren't cheap in those days.
John Gorst;147457 Wrote:
Video squeezebox??
(not actually interested in one myself)
I think a cool idea would be for the SB to have a video output so
lyrics and album info/art could be shown on the TV.
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Wow, i just bought a Logitech Harmony 525 remote. If any of the Harmony
software devs come a knocking on Slim's door to offer help with
slimserver, LOCK IT!
This has to be the worst software i have used in a long time, makes in
Sonic Stage look good. Oh dear, i worry even more now.
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I live in the Uk and my experience of logitech has been nothing but
excellent. I had a conflict between a logitech device and a PCi card on
my computer. I ended up on first name terms with a support guy in europe
and he battled away with the problem until everything was sorted. Very
friendly, so
Wow, Good luck... I'm in the process of sending my squeezbox back
becauase I was unable to get Slimserver to work even with some customer
support... I don't think slimdevices is ready for the general consumer
market. For the general computer consumer I think it is very
complicated.
GP
That is too bad. Did you try to get help from these mailing lists? There are many helpful users here...On 10/26/06, GregP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Wow,Good luck...I'm in the process of sending my squeezbox back
becauase I was unable to get Slimserver to work even with some customersupport...I
For the general computer consumer I think it is very complicated.
Yes, its probably not user-friendly enough for most people. I was
talking to my brother (who doesn't know beans about computers) and
raved about my Squeezebox. He said: very cool, where can I get one?
And I answered: I warn
junien;147410 Wrote:
Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of
the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit.
The first thing I'll say is that we are very excited about the
opportunity that Slim Devices will bring to Logitech. This is
a great extension of
JackOfAll;148617 Wrote:
Well, I'm certainly not narrow minded; I listen. As I hinted in a
previous post, I socialise with audiophiles. As a direct result of
hearing a Squeezebox in my system, at least 5 people have bought one.
Let me tell you, it was hard enough to get those people to leave
P Floding;150082 Wrote:
That is the way it works in the connoisseur arena. And there is nothing
level-headed people can do about it, no matter how logical their
arguments are. I would NOT want a Microsoft hifi. Period!
Well, for the connoisseurs there's always sonos, olive, or sooloos
:).
I, on the other hand, would purchase Microsoft hifi if it sounded good. The label doesn't affect the sound.On 10/26/06, P Floding
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:That is the way it works in the connoisseur arena. And there is nothing
level-headed people can do about it, no matter how logical
P Floding;150078 Wrote:
I've been part of a small company that was acquired by a larger one, and
I can see all sorts of problems on the horizon.
I on the other hand have been part of a small company that was *not
*acquired by a larger one.
It went out of business as players with much bigger
[[Microsoft logoed SB3]]
Ouch! That would indeed be much, much worse in my opinion. Then I
WOULDN'T have bought one, for sure.
*sigh*
Generalizations hurt everybody. I recently bought a Microsoft Natural
Elite Pro Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (there's probably some other words in
the title, but
Grats to Sean and the Slim crew!
(When is the party?)
-Dan
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Human nature is a strange thing.
You hit the nail on the head.
For me, I'm already in the club. Unless Audio Research, Classe or Theta
builds something similar, I'll probably buy a Transporter. Just please
don't name it LogSqueeze.
I liked your posting: while the message is the same as said
isn't Porsche just a Volkswagen (or therefore: Skoda!) with spoilers?
It's the same company, isn't it?
No, two completely separate companies, who have colaborated on occaision.
Skoda is owned by VW, as is Audi.
Tom
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This is a bit off topic first.
Not completely separate - Porsche own 25% of VW (i.e. blocking rights)
and F. Piech chairman of VW supervisory board owns about 12% of Porche
and was CEO of VW up to 2002.
Following the analogy in relation to SD. The VW Phaeton was a
commercial failure - people
Tom;148975 Wrote:
isn't Porsche just a Volkswagen (or therefore: Skoda!) with spoilers?
It's the same company, isn't it?
No, two completely separate companies, who have colaborated on
occaision.
Skoda is owned by VW, as is Audi.
Tom
Porsche owns 25% of Volkswagen and there some
ezkcdude;148950 Wrote:
Much, much, much worse...
[[Microsoft logoed SB3]]
Ouch! That would indeed be much, much worse in my opinion. Then I
WOULDN'T have bought one, for sure.
I'm actually surprised that noone has made a Logitech logoed SB image
yet. I guess it was just too obvious.
Harry G;148941 Wrote:
I know that Mercedes today is made by Chrysler, whose cars we also
wouldn't buy, yet, the association doesn't bother me. Maybe because
they're so different.
Ouch, that hurt my german auto pride^^..
Mercedes Cars are still made by Mercedes, here in god ol'
I think I have come up with the worst case scenario.
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But for the audiophiles who talk of their audio systems like they talk
of fine wines, mechanical watches or art, this doesn't really work.
Hello,
all along this thread i keep reading how audiophiles like a product
or don't by just looking at the brand name or the faceplate. Please
stop that
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 05:31:11AM -0700, rhymesgalore wrote:
Harry G;148941 Wrote:
I know that Mercedes today is made by Chrysler, whose cars we also
wouldn't buy, yet, the association doesn't bother me. Maybe because
they're so different.
Ouch, that hurt my german auto pride^^..
junien;147410 Wrote:
Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of
the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit.
Greetings! Let me introduce myself: I've been a user of the SlimServer
software for several years, loving it so much that I built a computer
just to
radish;147454 Wrote:
(my Harmony 880 STILL won't charge properly because of a faulty cradle,
and support are pretty horrible to deal with) but we'll see.
Wow. I had that same problem. That was the first of two times I've had
to return my Harmony 880. While the remote is great for
junien;147518 Wrote:
Well... we are just starting the integration. Our main focus will be on
jumpstarting sales at retail.
This statement makes a huge amount of sense to me. Logitech has huge
distribution and marketing channels, and as far as I know, the
SqueezeBox is still distributed
What ends? The unfounded doomsaying? I sure hope so!On 10/22/06, RadioClash
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I was expecting something like this for the past few months as there is
no way that SD have financial clout to market their products long-term
on a worldwide basis.
After the loss of http://www.meedio.com I was very concerned to see
this thread in the General Discussion Forum. It seems my
stevieweevie;148695 Wrote:
I was expecting something like this for the past few months as there is
no way that SD have financial clout to market their products long-term
on a worldwide basis.
After the loss of http://www.meedio.com I was very concerned to see
this thread in the General
Before the acquisition I could send email to supportATslimdevices.com
and was guarranteed to receive a personal reply the very next business
day.
Now I've sent the same message three (3) times and have NOT received
any reply...
US$20M isn't a whole lot of money for LOGI (with a market cap of
djfake;148744 Wrote:
Before the acquisition I could send email to supportATslimdevices.com
and was guarranteed to receive a personal reply the very next business
day.
Now I've sent the same message three (3) times and have NOT received
any reply...
US$20M isn't a whole lot of money
stevieweevie;148695 Wrote:
(*how about a portable and child friendly and child-proof squeezebox
please!)
No thank you!
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Wow - that made my day. Welcome Logitech. I think that is great news. It
will not harm to add a bit more consumer orientied point of views to the
Slim Devices Audiophile centric world. Make cash on the consumer side to
support the top notch development for a little market segement. I am
excited..
mauidj;148578 Wrote:
gorman, I'm sorry but I don't think it is fair of you to label people
narrow minded because they have an opinion.Sorry, I totally want to clarify
the difference between stating that
something is narrow minded thinking and stating you people are
narrow minded. I did not
There seems to be quite a lot of negativity floating around here towards
logitech. My take? It's only been a few days - give it a chance!
FWIW I don't think Logitech will be bad for slim. As others have
pointed out, they acquired harmony a while ago and those products just
keep getting stronger
DrNic;147980 Wrote:
Well, I don't whether to be happy or sad Come to think of it I feel
it's more disappointment.
I too hope that the big company ethos doesn't bleed over into Slim
Devices, but somehow really have to try to convince myself of this.
All I ask (like most on here) is that
gorman;148822 Wrote:
is somebody saying that a Logitech branded Transporter would have
received worse reviews than a Slimdevices branded one?
Nope, but with a Logitech brand name, it might never have been reviewed
at all by the audio publications. And I have no doubt used units will
have lower
LHawes;148024 Wrote:
Just heard the news so am of course quite late to the discussion. Read
most of the posts and can see many different futures ahead for SD and
Logitech but to my mind the most likely is that Logitech will create a
good or perhaps very good music device - with a much larger
Here here.
Grammar-Nazi
It's HEAR HEAR, as in Oh my fellows, won't you unplug your ears and
hark unto the clear wisdom emanating from this person who is
speaking?
/Grammar-Nazi
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Stop whining, people! ;-)
I could have been much, much worse:
(And I still would have bought one!)
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Human nature is a strange thing.
Before I bought my wife her last Mercedes, a car buff friend insisted
we drive a Honda before making up our minds. He felt the Accord coupe
was a more modern, somewhat better car than the Mercedes coupe and
would save us about $8000.
From the test drive, I'll
blackbear;148919 Wrote:
Stop whining, people! ;-)
I could have been much, much worse:
(And I still would have bought one!)
Much, much, much worse...
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Congratulations! Never thought that a mainstream company like Logitech
would pay $20 million bucks for a niche producer. How much is that per
unit sold?
I'm pretty sure that Logitech did not aquire you to buy market power or
just the technical design of your products. They could have done that
I'm surprised! Good luck to Sean and SD. I really hope that the
acquisition by Logitech doesn't destroy the ethos and personality that
SD had. Whilst I feel confident that Logitech can increase the sales of
low-end product, I wonder how long it will be until meeting a product
price point will
JackOfAll;148535 Wrote:
And I agree with some of the other posters regarding the Transporter;
putting a Logitech badge on it is a very bad idea!At the tenth remark along
this line I got fed up. What sort of narrow
minded thinking is spreading among the community?
5 Years ago who the heck
gorman;148544 Wrote:
At the tenth remark along this line I got fed up. What sort of narrow
minded thinking is spreading among the community?
JackOfAll, this is not targeted specifically at you, yours is only the
last post of this kind that I can read without replying. Peace. :)
gorman,
gorman;148544 Wrote:
JackOfAll, this is not targeted specifically at you, yours is only the
last post of this kind that I can read without replying. Peace. :)
Well, I'm certainly not narrow minded; I listen. As I hinted in a
previous post, I socialise with audiophiles. As a direct result of
And so it ends.
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I would like to congratulate the Slim Devices crew on their sale to
Logitech.
I have only had my Squeezebox for unde a month but it is possible one
of the finest things I have bought.
As long as the management team stay, or have opportunity to imprint
their ethos on the Logitech appointed
Media Streaming is clearing an up and coming
market and SD are not going to be able to continue forever on ripped
CDs as a source - CD is a dated format now and I'm sure the music
industry would dearly love to hasten its demise. Online music and DRM
is going to be the future whether we like it or
Unless it's a IR based device (limited functionality and not what
people want) or just a fancy Logitech/SD branded web tablet (i.e. a
crippled 770), it's going to have to have some kind of proprietory
software if it's going to be as slick as, and compete with, the Sono's.
What does proprietary
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
and all you can really say
CardinalFang wrote:
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
and all you
CardinalFang wrote:
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
and
PhilNYC wrote:
Jetlag;147912 Wrote:
2. FLAC support in perpetuity (unless something better AND also free
comes along in the interim)?
With the never-ending price drops in hard drive prices, why not just
rip to WAV files and not worry about FLAC?
Because WAV files don't support tagging.
thaumaturge;147968 Wrote:
Well, Sean and the boys cashed out. I'm disappointed, but not surprised.
Good for them. Better to take the offer now before the SB shipments
drop off after even more media-server products are released this
quarter at half or a third of the SB price.
I doubt the
Mark Lanctot;147869 Wrote:
Good God, why? That's one of the best things about the Squeezebox!
Other manufacturers don't use ones this large because they feel they
are too expensive. In fact I believe I read that the display is the
highest-cost component in the whole player. However SD
As a consumer that just wants things to work well and support as many
formats as possible without DRM rubbish (which has never stopped anyone
from copying music), I'm in two minds about this. However, as long as
support for a wide range of formats (especially FLAC) remains and I
don't have to
sorenson;148140 Wrote:
Yes, I would have to say you are correct in your assumption, but my
point being that with large databases the VFD is a bit limited to work
with (it might be that I am the limited one!), but I do see you point
and have to agree with it, so it would have to be the remote
Robin Bowes;148118 Wrote:
CardinalFang wrote:
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote:
FLAC support is here to stay.
SqueezeNetwork is here to stay.
Linux/Unix support is here to stay.
With all due respect Dan, no-one could or should make that promise.
Things beyond your and your company's
jarome;148157 Wrote:
3) I hope SD does NOT do things like adding video or color screens.
There is no real reason to see album covers, and the niche market is
high-end audio, not video.
Yes! And there are growing calls for this, in this thread and others.
Video streamers and music players
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the
service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi
gear...
That's just silly.
Kevin
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I've just spent over an hour reading through the entire 25 pages and
growing of this thread. I've owned a Squeezebox2 for about a year and
a half now, and have recently been contemplating buying a Squeezebox3.
Just thought I would add my 2 cents, although I'm probably not going to
say anything
Kevin O. Lepard;148189 Wrote:
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the
service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi
gear...
That's just silly.
A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badge. Which one would you prefer on
your drive?
People
CardinalFang;148196 Wrote:
I wouldn't buy a Logitech Transporter because they are not renowned for
high-end audio engineering or for understanding the needs of the HiFi
audience. Right now, that's dumb, in 2-3 years, it may well be smart.
We shall see.
I don't think you'll have to worry
CardinalFang;148110 Wrote:
Things beyond your and your company's control can affect what happens
The same statement, exactly, would have been true before Logitech
bought SD.
The marketplace could change, someone could bring out a slim-killer,
one of the principals could be caught in an
Michaelwagner;148210 Wrote:
I think there's an awful lot of (perhaps self-serving) speculation going
on here.
I enjoy the debate, no more, no less. It won't change anything but it's
kinda fun to chew the fat with fellow enthusiasts.
Michaelwagner;148210 Wrote:
In another thread, I wrote:
LHawes;148208 Wrote:
Large buinesses simply do not pursue small markets and the transporter
represent a VERY small market. That is why I would not expect it to
survive for very long.
A small market perhaps, but I would expect the Transporter has much
higher margins than lower cost products.
Quoting CardinalFang
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Ultimately, I would tend to agree with you, I don't see a Transporter 2
in the future.
I'd agree with you there as well. However, I would say that this was
still the case for me a week ago. Transporter is a BIG leap from SB3,
in technology and
It would really be great if Sean or Junien would comment on some of the
concerns that have been raised in this thread since the announcement.
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
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On 10/19/06, Lowrent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and theservice stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi
gear...For me, hi-fi and music are about sound, not the logo on the box. If you knew the quality was the same, why
Jetlag;148239 Wrote:
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
Talk about throwing down the gauntlet! I wonder if anybody will take
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Quoting Jetlag [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It would really be great if Sean or Junien would comment on some of the
concerns that have been raised in this thread since the announcement.
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
oh good lord. that's just too
Sean and Julien have both already commented and responded to several
comments here. But the flood of responses here probably make it
difficult to respond to them all at once.
It's not like they have no other business to take care of in this
acquisition. Like talking to their own staff, etc.
Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?
They've been chained to thier desks in a cube farm somewhere and are
not given internet access so that thier productivity isn't harmed by
browsing and forum-posting activities.
Logitech is protecting thier
On 10/20/06, nicketynick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Jetlag;148239 Wrote: Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their
posts?Talk about throwing down the gauntlet!I wonder if anybody will takethe bait?Actually, I sincerely hope that both of them have better things
According to the late breaking news crawler on the San Francisco
Chronicle web site, a large cruise missile with the *Logitech* logo was
just sighted in the air, headed south towards Mountain View.
Come on, you guys!
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Shoot! I meant to post earlier, now I'm buried on page seven. Even I
only read till page 3.
Anyways, I wanted to add my $.02
Congrats to the SD-Team, I hope this aquisition comes as a reward for
your hard work and commmitment.
I'm a little worried...yada.. yada.. yada. But, I've been a big
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the
service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi
gear...
That's just silly.
A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badge. Which one would you prefer on
your drive?
Never owned either. But if the _only_
I agree completely.On 10/20/06, Kevin O. Lepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and theservice stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-figear...That's just silly.
A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badge. Which one would you
God this thread is hard to keep track of :)
None of us know the details of the deal SlimDevices have done with
Logitech, so we don't know how SD will operate in the future.
Will they be dictated to by Logitch board? or will the be a completely
seperate, but wholy owned subsidury?
Everyone
funkstar;148296 Wrote:
None of us know the details of the deal SlimDevices have done with
Logitech, so we don't know how SD will operate in the future.
Right. And until we know that, if we ever know that, this is all just
uninformed electrons flapping in the breeze.
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Kevin O. Lepard;148294 Wrote:
If you're not buying it because it doesn't perform, that's one thing.
If you're not buying something that does perform, but because it says
Logitech on it instead of AUDIOPHILE EXPENSIVE BRAND X on it (or
for that matter SlimDevices), then I stand by my
Kevin O. Lepard;148294 Wrote:
Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the
service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my
hi-fi
gear...
That's just silly.
A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badge. Which one would you prefer
on
your
Quoting CardinalFang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
.
You've just described the audiophile market :-)
Doesn't really fit with me. Sure, it's the joke, but any company
making audiophile gear had to start somewhere. Any name is made or
broken on the quality of their gear. Calling yourself TacT
Jack Coates;148260 Wrote:
Actually, I sincerely hope that both of them have better things to do
than to participate in this pathetic whine fest.
What are bulletin boards about except to discuss things? People like to
talk about stuff. That doesn't make it pathetic, it's just human nature.
CardinalFang;148311 Wrote:
Most ordinary consumers take the Volkswagen, the same way that they'll
taken an iPod and not an equally good alternative. Results actually
don't matter that much to most people and they won't do the comparison,
they'll take the brand they won't be embarassed about.
I've read the 27 pages(probably 28 by the time I post this) of the
hand-wringing, grousing, congrats, and various 'special interest'
concerns about the Logitech acquisition, and am, for the most part,
amused. I suppose that, because of my age, I see things a bit
differently and prefer to look at
CardinalFang;148316 Wrote:
People like to talk about stuff. That doesn't make it pathetic
No, but the whining does.
Face it. We don't know what's going to happen. Logitech is a specific
company, at this specific point in time, with these specific leaders,
subject to these specific market
konut;148335 Wrote:
I've read the 27 pages(probably 28 by the time I post this)
Only 7 pages now.
Did someone move 20 pages somewhere else? Or is page size different for
different users?
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