Re: [DX-CHAT] desecheo

2009-03-06 Thread Norm Gertz

 dee say shee o according to a former VQ9 operator

73   Norm   K1AA


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Subject: [DX-CHAT] desecheo



dessa chay'-oh

according to my sister, the retired advanced spanish teacher


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Are CW ops getting older?

2008-07-01 Thread Norm Gertz
Shelby...I am remembering some of my old friends who could not use a key 
any longer following a stroke or other ailment.
The keyboard allowed them to continue the mode that they loved so well and 
help to perpetuate a great skill.


73   Norm  K1AA


- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Are CW ops getting older?


I will agree with you there.  Second best means of copying is my Vibroplex 
paddle w/ built-in keyer in the rig.


Contesting  DX chasing a keyboard is the only way to go.  Yup, copy with 
the ears... still have to translate it anyway be it writing it in a 
paper log or typing it into the logging program.


73;
w2mw

Kurt W. Zimmerman
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From: Shelby Summerville [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Are CW ops getting older?
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 8:23 AM
N2RRA sarcastically wrote: Folks! Just because you use
a keyboard for CW does not make you CW operators unless you
can receive and send CW with some sort of keyer. Any fool
can send with a keyboard, but when put to test can you step
up?

While opinions are like another part of the anatomy,
we all have one, and most of them stink! I
really have no idea how what is used to send, or receive
has anything to do with CW ops getting older? My CW may not
be the best, but I copy with my ears, and use a keyboard to
send. If that makes me a fool, I can live with
that.
Personally, I find computer generated CW, far
easier to copy.

C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio Procedure-on phone

2008-06-05 Thread Norm Gertz

Daveyou have hit the nail on the head...

When you talk about radio operating procedures in past years where traffic 
nets abounded and circuit discipline was entirely different you are in 
another generation.  When WWII evolved thousands of amateur radio operators 
enlisted and were quickly pounding a key with a minimum of training.  This 
could never happen today.


Unknown to many of the more recent hams is that the Q signals were used by 
net participants to cut down on time expended to send the entire item in 
code.


We will probably never see those activities again.the military does not 
even bother with CW these days..new radios do not even have a key jack 
nor do the present day communicators even know the code.  This is the 
digital battlefield now...


At least we still have our memories.

73   Norm   K1AA
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From: David Yarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio Procedure-on phone


In the past, using the phrase break, break, break--called a triple 
break--was supposed to only occur in an emergency.  This comes from net 
operating procedures mainly.  Otherwise, you would just say break, break 
if you wanted to be recognized, but not for emergency purposes. 
Nonetheless, a single break is often used to request recognition.  The 
term break, spoken only once, is also intended to indicated a separation 
between parts.  For example, when passing a message, there will often be 
heard the term break after the address of the person for whom the 
message is intended, but prior to the actual text.  The military similarly 
used the word break as a separator between parts.  Another example is 
that a net control station might use the term break to clearly indicate 
the end of one task or communication, and the beginning of another.


Net operating procedures are not all that familiar to most hams these days 
as there are not very many nets left.  There was a time when I was very 
active in net operations, and there were lots of nets in which to 
participate.  Most were run under very strict procedures.  The ones I hear 
today are much less formal for the most part.  Perhaps the MARS nets still 
in operation are run more formally, but only a handful of others seem to 
retain that kind of net discipline.  But net operations used to be 
primarily for the purpose of passing traffic, whereas now most of them 
are just a regularly scheduled event where people show up, and perhaps 
take their turn at a short, informal transmission.


So, I don't think the documented procedures have necessarily changed, but 
the actual practice of these procedures has moderated substantially.


Dave W7AQK


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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio Procedure-on phone


The line Break, Break, Break appears in The New Technician Class FCC 
License Preparation, Third Edition, which contained the July 1, 1990 326 
Question Pool.  Gorden West, WB6NOA is credited, and it was Developed and 
Published by Master Publishing, Inc., and distributed by Radio Shack.  I 
quote from page 41:


3AB-2-1-2 Why should users of a station in repeater operation pause 
briefly between transmissions?

A. To check the SWR of the repeater
B. To reach for pencil and paper for third party traffic
C. To listen for any hams wanting to break in
D. To dial up the repeater's autopatch

ANSWER C: A repeater is like a party linethere may be others who may 
wish to use the system.  In an emergency, stations may break in saying 
Break, Break, Break.  Give up the channel immediately.  Always leave 
enough time between picking up the conversation for other stations to 
break in.  It's a pause that may refresh someone else's day in an 
emergency.


I don't necessarily agree with Gordo, but the first time I saw it in 
print was in one of his manuals.


vy 73, Mike

Jim Abercrombie wrote:
Also, in what book does it say the term break, referring to a VHF 
repeater, mean emergency?  All of that is perfect nonsense.

Jim



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Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio Procedure-on phone

2008-06-03 Thread Norm Gertz
There are two distinct systems involved here.

The Q signals have always been as listed;  some operators twisted their 
meanings just like slang;  this still continues.  In past years the military 
and commercial high speed operations used Z signals in their procedure;  no Q 
signals.

The phonetic alphabet is another matter however.  The military uses phonetics 
based on an international system to enhance joint operations among different 
countries.  There is no confustion whatsoever among military operators when it 
comes to phonetics.

The police departments historically have used their own phonetics;  sometimes 
originated by the speaker on the spot.  Today its not unusual to hear a police 
officer using names of states for phonetics.

There will always be some who are different.

Norm  K1AA


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Beaudet 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio Procedure-on phone


  Many if not most of new hams are graduates of the CB ranks.
  While I'm glad that they discovered ham radio, I'm also
  irked that they brought their vocabulary and procedures
  with them.
  Things like Got a copy?, I'll be on the side, 
  How much power are you throwing?, you've got Bill here,
  and many other expressions are learned on 27 MHz and
  not forgotten after they pass a ham exam.

  They use QSL as a question, meaning do you acknowledge?
  Of course, they usually should say over or go ahead on phone.
  We learned a different set of rules and standards but these
  ex CBers are filling the ranks. I hear them every day and 
  even though many are good folks, I surely would wish they
  would leave their CB ways at the door as they enter our fraternity.

  74, Bob W1YRC
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:27 AM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio Procedure-on phone


T his reminds me:  

Why are new hams using QSL instead of OVER ?   

The Q-code was made for telegraphy to save  time and avoid language 
confusion. !

73  
 RAG   Ragnar Otterstad   LA5HE JW5HE OZ8RO


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   From UK:
   Has anyone out there got a copy of Standard Radio Procedures ?

   The reason I ask is that the police (I work in a police control room) 
are introducing what they call 'Airwave Speak' which is being adopted by police 
forces nationally. The grandly titled 'National Police Improvement Agency' has 
come up with a definitive list of words which are classed as good procedure, 
i.e   'OVER'  'STAND BY'  'ACKNOWLDGE'   'NEGATIVE' etc.. the usual stuff.
  However, they have binned for some unknown reason  'ROGER' and 
replaced it with 'RECEIVED' and have also brought in 'PLEASE'  'SORRY' and 
'THANK YOU'  amongst other changes!

  No, this is not april 1st. This is genuine.

  Although it will standardise terminology used by all police forces they 
have omitted to consult the armed forces who also have access to 'Airwave' and 
I believe have missed an opportunity to standardise Radio Procedures amongst 
ALL emergency services with whom we are supposed to be able to work if the 
proverbial you know what hit the fan.

  If I could get hold off or even print out from some internet site a 
definitive copy of  CORRECT Radio Speak I intend to make my disapproval known.

  SORRY? THANK YOU?   ... give me strength!


  Mick Martin

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Re: [DX-CHAT] SWL QSL-ing and more

2008-03-18 Thread Norm Gertz
Just a reminder.during the earlier days it was required of Russians wishing 
to obtain a license to prove their ability to use radio receivers by obtaining 
SWL report confirmations.

They were assigned call letters and sent out large numbers of cards through the 
years.

We were always encouraged to reply as it was of value to the amateur radio 
community.

73   Norm  K1AA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Elmar NL13289 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:20 PM
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] SWL QSL-ing and more


  Hello all,

  This weekend some more QSL cards came in via the bureau as an answer to my 
reception report.
  The QSL card that draw my attention was the QSL from Charles HS0ZCW. 
  It's the first QSL card I receive that is especially designed for answering 
SWL Reception reports!
  So thanks a lot Charles!
  How many of you do reply on a QSL card from a SWL?

  Every now and then, discussions are started on this reflector about good and 
bad manners when operating.
  Pile-ups are a great example of mis behaviour by quite a few hams.
  Those amateurs need to start over again and do a few years of SWL-ing.
  Give it a try to log about 6 stations in a row (with complete RS(T)-reports) 
for a station not working split in a pile-up.
  Thats what I allways try to do. But it can be hard sometimes because of the 
manners of stations trying to contact the calling station.

  73s, Elmar NL13289

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Re: [DX-CHAT] DXpedition Expectations

2008-02-11 Thread Norm Gertz
Mike and all...human nature will prevail in amateur radio as it does in the 
population as a whole.

The bad actors on the air are the same guys that were the schoolyard bullies' 
those who sneak into lines ahead of you and those who cut you off in traffic.

Their behaviour rarely changes throughout life  The best we can do is to ignore 
them;  they are after all looking for attention.

73NormK1AA
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  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXpedition Expectations


  Superbly stated!
  John Owens - N7TK

-- Original message -- 
From: rfman45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Many of the problems already cited in these current threads are certainly 
contributing factors in today's chaotic world of pileups. Civility in general 
in society is woefully missing and its absence is also felt on the bands.
 
 Another contributing factor, I believe, is the very high set of 
expectations that DXpeditions set for themselves through advance publicity 
announcements. The high hopes of planners is evident in the press releases, 
requests for information on needed band/modes, planning for favorable 
propagation and times to various areas of the world, real-time online logs, 
etc. They, and we, want the very best possible results.
 
 While I and all DXers wish all DXpeditioners the very best success, 
planners may well be painting themselves into a corner in an effort to put 
their efforts in the best favorable light. DXpeditions to difficult-to-reach 
spots and/or places with problematic governments are, by definition, outs ide 
of the normal course of things and many unexpected events can therefore more 
easily present themselves, derailing even the best laid plans. It's not 
difficult to activate Spain; Heard Island is another matter.
 
 I am as enthusiastic as any when an expedition is announced; I have 
nothing but respect for our fellow hams who devote themselves to my favorite 
aspect of operating.
 
 However, the combination of the anticipation of a rare place being QRV, 
the talk of needing this or that band and the final event of the station coming 
on the air makes for an explosive mix that finally ignites in the inevitable 
fracas of the resulting pileup. I'm definitely in favor of advance publicity 
and any necessary fundraising, assistance, etc. but planners must be careful 
not to raise expectations too high and we, in the pileups, have to act more 
reasonably in our conduct and in what we expect.
 n bsp;   Best DX es 73,
 
   Mike W2LO


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Re: [DX-CHAT] my last on Ten Tec woes

2007-10-29 Thread Norm Gertz
Charlie.in all fairness I must say that I recently called Ten Tec 
regarding my old venerable Triton IV which had served me so well through the 
years and was pleased to find out that they do indeed have replacement parts 
and continue to service that model after 30 years or more.


73   Norm   K1AA


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Subject: [DX-CHAT] my last on Ten Tec woes


There is not a  little of any more of my story.  The repair advice T T guy 
just blew his job this time and I wanted to say that is not correct.


For orphans, look at T T web site for a list.  The fault, Dear Brutus, is 
also the mfgs. who just stop making a part with no regard to its users.


Gotta shake the tree sometimes to get the ripe top fruit.  Unfortunately, 
some rotton ones also rain down on one's head,73


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Re: [DX-CHAT] 100 watts and a vertical!

2007-10-02 Thread Norm Gertz
Paul..sure brought back memories of the stories years ago about the 
QRPer who walked up the hill to bare his soul to the old timer


73   Norm   K1AA


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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:49 AM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] 100 watts and a vertical!



 One of the Local QRPers called us on the phone the other day,
and he was clearly upset.  Usually he showed up in person and told us
the news of the day, complete with arm waving, finger pointing and
pacing back and forth.  This time he didn't have the time to make his
way up the hill.

 Did you hear him? he bellowed at us, and we thought we'd have
to get out our handkerchief and wipe off the phone.  Hear who? we
bellowed back, and stop shouting.  There was a moment of silence
for this one had a complaint to lodge, and he didn't want us to hang
up on him.  Did you hear that Big Gun in the next county work the
guys on that DXpedition in Africa?  The one I need for a brand new
one overall, and the one I know he already has confirmed?  That's the
one.  Did you hear it??!!

 We took a deep breath and replied, No, not really, but what is
the problem?  It seems to us they are going to be there for at least
a week, and some of the reports say maybe two weeks.  Everyone can't
work them the first day.  The QRPer was not to be consoled at
all.  Maybe so, Buster, he continued, but here we are, at the very
bottom of the solar cycle, and you know they are going to be
tough.  Really tough for us who need them. His voice was now
starting to show a bit of contempt.  Why is it that those fellows
who already have these countries, and some of them on four or five
bands and modes, keep calling and working them when they know there
are hundreds, and maybe even thousands of us who need it for a new one? 
Why?


 What could we say?  Even during the Low Days of DXing, there
will be those who get through early, and those who get through late,
and some who do not make it at all.  This fellow who worked them the
first day, is he high up on the DXCC listings?  And does he have a
beam and an amplifier?

 Right on both counts!  How did you know?

 It's the first day of the DXpedition, we replied.  Only the
top dogs are going to make it.  And that has nothing to do with the
solar cycle.  What are you using?

 My multi-band vertical and 100 watts, was the reply, and
don't give me that stuff about beams and amplifiers beating out
verticals and 100 watts, either!  I know that.  What I want to know
is why the fellows with the beams and amplifiers do it?  They don't
need it.  Why don't they QRX and let us modest stations through?

They do it because they can, he replied slowly, in a neutral
voice.  What do you expect them to do?  They are DXers.  They have
spent years and years building up their stations, and when they
started out, they had the same or less than you.  They got sand
kicked in their face by the Big Guns of years past.  Now they are the
Deserving, and remember the most important Eternal Enigma of DXing,
'Only the Deserving . . .'

 The QRPer snarled under his breath and continued on, I've heard
all of that before, and I don't understand it.  It seems to me that
if they were really true blue Hams, and followed the Amateur's Code,
they would work stuff they already have.  At least not until the last
day or so.  It's the same every time a rare one shows up.  They all
have to get in the log first.  And if they work them on phone, then
they have to work them on CW.  And that's not good enough,
either.  Then they start again on another band, and another
band.  Everywhere I go I hear a wall of QRM.  I'll never work them!

 Yes you will, son!  Absolutely.  You are a DXer.  And DXers
always work the DX.  You just might not get them this time.  But that
one will come around again.  They always do.  We apparently had
turned on a little extra oxygen with that comment, for the QRPer's
voice shrieked through the ear piece like a cutting torch!  That
might be 5 years!  Maybe 7 or 8!  Some help you are!  Bang and
click, and there was nothing but a dial tone.

 We walked out on the verandah and looked down across the valley
and towards the distant hills.  We recalled this same QRPer telling
us just a few weeks ago that he was only a couple of years from
retirement, and that he was entitled to a substantial severance
package.  We further recalled that he was planning to get a couple of
towers with it and a few of those 4 and 5 element monobanders.  He
even said he'd have enough left over to get one of those overseas
amplifiers with the tubes that were good for full legal power and
maybe even a little more.  We had to wonder, when he got the new
station up and running, if he'd stand by and let the new guys with
the 100 watts and the verticals and dipoles through first.  As Albert
had often said, All things are relative, although some more than
others.  Somehow 

Re: [DX-CHAT] W.D. (Denny) Evans, GW3CDP - SK

2007-09-18 Thread Norm Gertz
Memories..Denny ruled the net with an iron fist..referred all key 
down QRMers to his kitty cat.

He was a very dedicated radio amateurrip Denny..

73   Norm  K1AA


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From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] W.D. (Denny) Evans, GW3CDP - SK



This is sad news.  I remember Denny from my early DX'ing days in the early
to mid 1980's, back when he was the usual NCS for the 15 meter Snooky's
Net.  Always no-nonsense, as I recall, but always a gentleman, and always
willing to lend a hand if needed.

Didn't run into him much after I realized I didn't need DX Nets anymore, 
but
I'd still stop by once in a great while to his nets just to say hello. 
And

it saddens me to realize that it's been over 15 years since I heard him on
the air.

One of the good guys in the DX World.  He will be missed.

73, ron w3wn

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K2EWB
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:43 PM
To: Undisclosed Recipient
Subject: [DX-CHAT] W.D. (Denny) Evans, GW3CDP - SK


W. Denzil Evans, GW3CDP (Denny to his many friends) passed away on 
Saturday,
15 September '07 at the age of 81 after a short illness. During his 
lifetime

he was most active in Amateur Radio DX-ing.  He had achieved #1 Honor Roll
(Phone) and was close to completing the CW mode. He was a long time member
of both the R.S.G.B. and the A.R.R.L. He served in India and Burma in the
British Royal Signals during WWII.  Condolences can be sent to Denny's 
widow

Ann, at his address as
listed on QRZ.com.  R.I.P. Dear Friend, You shall be missed but not
forgotten.
Leon Katz, (K2EWB)




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Re: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread Norm Gertz
The detention center is a new addition to the Guantanamo basecreated for 
the Gulf War detainees.


The main base at Gtmo has a mission of its own..a Navy squadron, Marines 
and other support personnel.


Even if they tore down the detention center it would not affect the original 
base.


73   Norm  K1AA


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:32 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo



There's some discussion in the news about Gitmo Bay:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/21/guantanamo/index.html

It's hard to tell if they are talking about just closing the detention 
center or closing the whole base.  Hopefully the base will remain.


73, Zack W9SZ


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds

2007-05-11 Thread Norm Gertz
I notice that there are very few of the DX station operators contributing to 
this thread.
I remember operating from VP5 in 1977there was a demand for 80M 
contacts..not easy to string up an 80M antenna there because of the real 
estate.
We found a reel of stainless steel leader wire and hooked it on to a large 
kite and started unreeling..ultimately strung up 330' and

proceeded to make a multitude of contacts until we lost the kite.

I do not remember receiving a single green stamp but all QSLs received were 
answered faithfully.


73   Norm  K1AA


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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds




I hope so.  What better way to hatch new DXers?

I can just see it now - Martha, hand me my binoculars.  I think I see a
rare yellow-speckled DX-beeper. I'd know that call anywhere
-  di-di-di-di-dit dah-dit dah-dit.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Fri, 11 May 2007, DAVE WHITE wrote:


They do seem like an impressive job.

  Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the 
first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land 
above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was 
allowed because they perched on the rocks?  Or did I get that wrong.


  I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-)

  Dave G0OIL





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Re: [DX-CHAT] VU7LD

2006-12-24 Thread Norm Gertz
Lou and Bill.I think that the FCC in those days hand picked the 
examiners.they were usually unsmiling and quite menacing to the young 
applicants. 
Most of the time the field office was a smelly, musty space;  many cigarette 
smokers at that time.
I dont think any of those things worked as a detriment;  most passed their 
tests in those days.

73  Norm  K1AA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: Ron Notarius W3WN ; DX-Chat 
  Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 10:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] VU7LD


  Hi Lou-

  Yes, I know who you are talking about. The old buzzard must have been there 
for ages, I'm just about 61 now. I had to take my general/advanced in NYC in 
the 70's. I think everyone was scared of the old guy. But he was fair and 
accurate. Saw him fail a priest on my visit.

  73
  Bill W2PKY


  - Original Message -
  From: lmecseri -KE1F 
  Date: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:12 pm
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] VU7LD
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Ron Notarius W3WN , DX-Chat 

   Guys,
   
   To get my Extra, I had to demonstrate my CW sending skill in 
   downtown 
   Manhattan to a very old FCC officer. (I will be 70 in January) :-(
   
   I love CW, I do only CW and RTTY contesting, I don't do phone. I 
   don't 
   have mic connected to my HF radio.
   
   Merry Christmas/Happy Holiday and a Happy New Year.
   
   73s
   
   Lou KE1F
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Hello Ron-

Have operated most modes but still come back to CW. Enjoy 
   nailing a 
big DX station in a pile up!
Says it all!
Bill
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Ron Notarius W3WN
Date: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:46 pm
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] VU7LD
To: DX-Chat
   
 Sorry you feel that way Lou. However, I think you're grossly
 mistaken. If
 anything, I think the opposite will occur.

 Those who continue to operate on CW will do so because they
 enjoy it, not
 because they're trying to get their code speeds up to pass a
 test. It
 follows then that if it is enjoyed, it will maintain at least
 some modicum
 of popularity.

 CW is an acquired taste. Not everyone acquires it. It took me
 a long time
 to really settle down and enjoy it. I actually find that lately
 I spend
 much more time cruising the exclusive CW sub-bands for DX and
 ragchews than
 I do the Phone 'bands. Never in a googleplex of nanoseconds
 thought that
 would happen!

 73

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 BehalfOf lmecseri -KE1F
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:50 AM
 To: Shelby Summerville
 Cc: DX-Chat
 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] VU7LD


 But since CW is no longer a requirement for a HAM license the
 mode CW is not
 and will not be popular.


 73s

 Lou KE1F


 Shelby Summerville wrote:

 On 12/19, I wrote: I thought I worked VU7LD/VU3ELR, 12/16,
 1455Z, 20
 SSB. Now, according to the online log, I DID work VU7LD/VU3ELR
 on 12/16!
 My
 apologies to anyone that I may have caused not to work VU7, as
 I again
 worked VU7LD/VU3RSB, yesterday. I assure y'all that I'm NOT a
 DX hog, nor
 do I have any desire for that reputation!
 
 Happy Holidays
 
 73, Shelby - K4WW
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Re: [DX-CHAT] VU7LD

2006-12-22 Thread Norm Gertz
CW will still be the mode of choice for many of our radio amateurs 
regardless of the test requirements.  Through the years many who 
successfully copied the 13 wpm required never did operate CW for reasons of 
their own.
Rather than being a demiselook at the Fists organization which in a 
few years has many thousands of members.  When the FOC which is a CW only 
organization has their Marathon weekend the bands come alive with signals.


As Ron states   CW is an acquired taste those that embrace it are like 
musicians with their own signature styles.


73   Norm  K1AA
- Original Message - 
From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: DX-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] VU7LD


Sorry you feel that way Lou.  However, I think you're grossly mistaken. 
If

anything, I think the opposite will occur.

Those who continue to operate on CW will do so because they enjoy it, not
because they're trying to get their code speeds up to pass a test.  It
follows then that if it is enjoyed, it will maintain at least some modicum
of popularity.

CW is an acquired taste.  Not everyone acquires it.  It took me a long 
time

to really settle down and enjoy it.  I actually find that lately I spend
much more time cruising the exclusive CW sub-bands for DX and ragchews 
than

I do the Phone 'bands.  Never in a googleplex of nanoseconds thought that
would happen!

73

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of lmecseri -KE1F
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:50 AM
To: Shelby Summerville
Cc: DX-Chat
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] VU7LD

clip
But since CW is no longer a requirement for a HAM license the mode CW is 
not

and will not be popular.
clip

73s

LouKE1F


Shelby Summerville wrote:


On 12/19, I wrote: I thought I worked VU7LD/VU3ELR, 12/16, 1455Z, 20
SSB. Now, according to the online log, I DID work VU7LD/VU3ELR on 12/16!

My

apologies to anyone that I may have caused not to work VU7, as I again
worked VU7LD/VU3RSB, yesterday. I assure y'all that I'm NOT a DX hog, 
nor

do I have any desire for that reputation!

Happy Holidays

73, Shelby - K4WW
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Re: [DX-CHAT] W6AM - then now

2006-06-04 Thread Norm Gertz
I wonder if anyone has a photo of Don Wallaces mobile setup with the KW amp 
in the trunk etc?


73   Norm  K1AA


- Original Message - 
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:19 AM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] W6AM - then  now


Considering how ideal for RF that site was considered BEFORE Don bought 
it,

I have to wonder...

do they allow antennas there now, or are they prohibited by CCR's or 
HOA's

or whatever.

What a bitter irony that would be, if one of THE premier RF locations now
bans antennas!

73

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of petethepup
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:05 AM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] W6AM - then  now


Rolling Hills ain't what it used to be.

After reading the note in the latest Contesters rate sheet regarding
the W6AM page at -

http://www.qsl.net/ne6i/w6am/

I forwarded this interesting URL to my friend Tim, KA8DDZ. The next day he
returned this striking Google Maps comparison of the rhombic farm
as it was back in the day, and what the area looks like now. Scroll to the
last 2 pictures at the bottom of my picture page -

http://home.alltel.net/okhn8ux/pictures.htm

Little boxes all in a row now... a lil sad, actually.  At least we have 
the

pictures from yesteryear to keep the memories alive.

Rich, N8UX


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread Norm Gertz
Ron..my recollections of behaviour were of the time periods in the late 
30's up until WWII..  After resumption of amateur radio activities following 
the war intentional QRM seemed to grow in frequency and in intensity.


Vulgar language was unheard of  in those early days.  Poor operators in 
those days had chirpy signals, raw AC and over modulated.  In spite of more 
primitive techniques the
FCC appeared to be very vigilant and not many violators escaped that pink 
ticket.


In self defense, some DX operations ran  list operations by the numbers; 
not loved by one and all but it gave out many new countries to the 
multitude.


Those that lose their cool and cause disruption are akin to those oddballs 
that exhibit road rage on the highways.


I can also recall that now and then a DX station would pull the big switch 
when frustrated by these characters.


Yes, 30 years ago there certainly was such behaviousr  For at least 15 years 
the 14313 three ring circus was in full swing and you could hear almost 
anything vulgar on there all day long.


To his everlasting credit Riley Hollingsworth cleaned up that mess and those 
perpertrators hopefully are now put to rest for good.


God bless Amateur Radio and the good guys.

73   Norm  K1AA





- Original Message - 
From: Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'DX-CHAT' dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S



Years ago there was no DX Cluster network that announced to the world
the instant the rare DX appeared and on what frequency.

Also, in the old days, there was no implied guarantee of a QSO, or
multiple band-mode QSOs, with each DXpedition.  You had to tune, tune
tune, be in the right place at the right time and hope propagation
was favorable.  Sometimes luck played a role, too.  Now, if someone
doesn't work a DXpedition, they start insulting the operators (or
QRMing the operation) for ignoring their part of the world.

Maybe we need to involve the cable TV industry in Dxpeditions to
provide the technology for on-demand QSOs :.)

73,
Barry W2UP

On 21 Apr 2006 at 8:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I would have to respectfully disagree with Norm's comment that years
ago intentional QRM was almost unheard of.

It may not have been at the level that you seen nowadays, but it's
always been there.

I can still recall one evening in college (about 30 years ago...
*sigh*), when a bunch of us were operating K3CR on 20 phone, when a
small pile-up developed (don't ask me why, we weren't a special
event, just a college club station, and a pretty active one at the
time to boot).  5 minutes or so into the pileup, we got hit with
carriers and various rude comments.  Then someone else jumped on and
informed the jammers that he'd called the local FCC monitoring
station... and someone else taunted him back that the FCC wasn't going
to do anything... and so on.  As I remember, we eventually just gave
up and QSY'd.

I've had carriers and other QRM wipe either me or my intended QSO out
in contests and DX chasing situations going as far back.  Again, maybe
not as often as you can see nowadays, but it happens.

Why is it more prevalent today?  For one thing, IMHO, sheer numbers.
We have more hams today than we did 30 years ago, and as a result,
while the percentage of lids has (hopefully) remained small, the
actual number has risen.  And when it takes only 1 or 2 ding dongs to
create havoc...

We also as a society seem to have grown more tolerant over the years
of rude and obnoxious behavior.  There are many reasons for that, too
many to list here.  Suffice, when rude behavior is tolerated in other
parts of society, it gets reflected on the bands too.

And in some situations, the testosterone (or equivalent) takes over.
Sometimes, some of those win at any and all costs  take no
prisoners hams will do anything to make sure that THEY make the
contact, and will sometimes prevent YOU from doing so -- so that they
can claim I WON and, by default, you lost.  It's against the true
spirit that amateur radio once had and still aspires too... but it
happens all too often.

73, ron wn3vaw

From: Norm Gertz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri Apr 21 07:45:47 CDT 2006
To: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'WC7N' [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 'DX-CHAT' dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT]  Gentlemen  HAM'S

My observations through the years is that the bad apples who
generate QRM and engage in outrageous behaviour on the air are also
comporting themselves in the same manner in their everyday lives. I
disagree with one of the writers who alleged that most of the
violators are old timers, extra class etc. Years ago intentional QRM
was almost unheard of and operators did not have the luxury of split
nor a VFO.  You were limited to a handful of crystals. Perhaps newer
is not always better in spite of the sophisticated equipment we now
have.  If you have a poor operator at the helm then you expect low
grade performance.

73   Norm   K1AA

Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL info TROLLing

2006-03-30 Thread Norm Gertz
Wow is right..how much further must we go to protect ourselves against 
these deviants?
I recall receiving a QSL from a VU for a contact mid day on the East Coast 
on 80 meters...no different than moving the decimal point.


73   Norm  K1AA


- Original Message - 
From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Peter Penta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] QSL info TROLLing



--- Peter Penta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just like the morons who
decided to take 18 MHz, 17meter cards and decided they wanted to be top
banders and toss in a period.  1.8 MHz WOW !!!


This is why I write the freq:

   18.0 or 18.1

so it's harder to forge.  Of course writing the band as 17M works too!

Then there's the whole 10 MHz / 10 Meters problem...  Again, I write:

   10.1

73 - Jim AD1C


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Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL info

2006-03-28 Thread Norm Gertz
Roland.chances are that the collector is an employee of the postal 
service down there.


73  Norm   K1AA


- Original Message - 
From: Roland Guidry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'Mark Horowitz' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] QSL info



I sent a QSL card with $2/sase in 11/2004. No QSL card. Seems he is a
collector...

Roland, NA5Q

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of

Mark Horowitz
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:59 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] QSL info

Does anyone have a good qsl route for PY0S/PS7JN.  I sent a qsl via 
qrz.com

at the following address, with no success.  I sent it Sept'05 .
  Joca Neto
  P.O.BOX 251
  59010-970  Natal-Rn
  Brazil.

Any info would be appreaciated.
Thanks
73,
Mark
K2AU


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Guantanamo

2006-03-26 Thread Norm Gertz



Dont know how it is set up these 
days. Previously the FCC gave blocks of calls to the deployed 
militaryremember the KA calls in Japan in the 50's?
The call assignments were usually made by 
the communications officer who was supposed to verify that the applicant was a 
duly licensed amateur.
Through the years there have been many KG4 
calls assigned.most were the operators initials.
Many calls were reissued many timesthe 
good CW calls as an example.
In this case of the KG44; I am quite sure 
that the person who handles the call assignments does not have authority to add 
another number to the prefix.

73 Norm K1AA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 5:18 
AM
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] Guantanamo
  
  I am surprised that there is no mention of Gitmo in "The FCC Rulebook", but 
  I guess it is impossible to cover everything.
  Perhaps the military needs to do some training missions to Navassa and 
  Desecheo!"Nothinggreatiseverachievedwithoutenthusiasm."-RalphWaldoEmerson.


Re: [DX-CHAT] Question

2006-03-19 Thread Norm Gertz



Many times through the years when a DX 
station has asked for "up" several times and is ignored they have immediately 
gone QRT.look forward to this in the future also.

73 Norm 
K1AA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:01 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Question
  
  Assuming the Dx station moves around and answers callers on their own 
  frequency, and does not work more than one caller on a particular frequency- 
  The DX operator has no way to communicate to the pileup as a whole. They will 
  be listening on their own frequency for the Dx to answer them, not listening 
  for other qsos. As new stations find the pileup, or see it spotted, will 
  likely begin spreading out farther and farther trying to be sure they are 
  calling on a clear frequency. Even if the spread is mentioned in DX spots 
  operators will likely try to push the edges hoping the Dx will go just a 
  little higher to find them in the clear.
  Although finding the frequency of the previous qso and calling there, or 
  where the Dx will next be listening, is a pretty basic skill to DXing, I think 
  you will find 90% of the callers are not doing this. They sit in one spot, or 
  pick spots at random, and call their lungs out. If they are loud enough 
  eventually they get the contact, but not with the satisfaction of getting it 
  because they were able to listen and choose the best place and time to call. I 
  have been able to very easily work weak JA callers from CY9 despite many loud 
  US and European callers by finding a relatively clear spot in the listening 
  spread and dropping hints to the pileup. Just say "203" for example. The good 
  DXers are listening, and within a few seconds call on that frequency. You can 
  work 6- 10 stations before the crowd listen long enough to catch on. When the 
  bedlam starts, find another fairly clear spot and again just mention the 
  frequency. The best Dxers get the contact easily, while many others blindly 
  call barely taking a breath. I have put many good JA operators in the log this 
  way. But- that was not the question.
  Really, except perhaps in the biggest pileups, split would not be needed if 
  operators were able to listen and use timing. Obviously, this is not possible. 
  Stations simply cannot contain themselves enough to call when the DX asks QRZ 
  or otherwise indicates he is ready for a call, and not transmit the rest of 
  the time. But, too many stations must transmit all the time, even if the DX 
  has identified another station and is trying to work it. They transmit when 
  they are not the station identified, and often even while the Dx station is 
  transmitting, hence split is needed. But, anyone who has been a Dxer for more 
  than 5 minutes knows this.
  What is the solution to the qrm on the DX frequency? Well, if someone 
  doesn't know the DX is woking split, or by accident is on the wrong VFO, or 
  whatever, it would be no problem if ppeople had the smallest amount of self 
  control. If the offending station is calling with proper timing, when the Dx 
  says QRZ, or is otherwise ready for a call, calling on the DX transmit 
  frequency is of no consequence other than a waste of time for the caller. The 
  trouble is the lack of self control which requires many listeners to try to 
  enlighten this individual. They are now transmitting when the DX is 
  transmitting, rendering the DX inaudible to many. Is there a solution? 
  Apparently not. These are likely not new or inexperienced DXers. Education 
  hasn't worked, expecting people to change their personality or develop self 
  control is a lost cause. The bedlam will continue.
  What about intentional qrmers? Nothing short of direction finding and 
  enforcement by Governments will have any effect on that, and that simply will 
  not happen. What choice does the Dx have but to continue on the best he can, 
  and work those fortunate enough to hear him through the bedlam? I have even 
  monitored stations intentionally interfering with high seas rescue operations 
  where lives hung in the balance. If people with transmitting equipment are 
  sick enough to do that, how can we expect any less regarding Dx operations? 
  There are many possible motives involved in qrming a particular Dx operation, 
  and expecting the ones doing such things to somehow develop self control and 
  concern for one's fellow man is not realistic. Can we somehow come up with new 
  ways to circumvent the problem of qrm on the DX transmit frequency? Maybe, but 
  I don't think answering callers on their own frequency is the way. I think 
  this has been done before, resulting in massive chaos.
  73 for now,
  Duane, WV2B
  "Nothinggreatiseverachievedwithoutenthusiasm."-RalphWaldoEmerson.


Re: [DX-CHAT] Question

2006-03-19 Thread Norm Gertz



This will never endthese intentional 
jammers are the equivalent of the "schoolyard bullies"...
whether from frustration or twisted 
philosophies they will sadly always be with us.

Norm K1AA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Osten B 
  Magnusson 
  To: Norm Gertz ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:53 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Question
  
  
What about intentional qrmers?
  
  These guys have now found another way to make it difficult for DX'ers in 
  a "split" pile-up. They quickly find the station that's been answered by the 
  DX-station and send a carrier over the caller instead - this also 
  prevents the QSO to "be finished". 
  
  Whatever we do, these intentional QRM'ers will be ahead of us!
  
  73/DX de Osten SM5DQC ( also SM5DXCC 
  ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
Norm Gertz 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:39 
PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Question

Many times through the years when a DX 
station has asked for "up" several times and is ignored they have 
immediately gone QRT.look forward to this in the future 
also.

73 Norm 
K1AA

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  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:01 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Question
  
  What about intentional 
  qrmers? Nothing short of direction finding and enforcement by Governments 
  will have any effect on that, and that simply will not happen. What choice 
  does the Dx have but to continue on the best he can, and work those 
  fortunate enough to hear him through the bedlam? I have even monitored 
  stations intentionally interfering with high seas rescue operations where 
  lives hung in the balance. If people with transmitting equipment are sick 
  enough to do that, how can we expect any less regarding Dx operations? 
  There are many possible motives involved in qrming a particular Dx 
  operation, and expecting the ones doing such things to somehow develop 
  self control and concern for one's fellow man is not realistic. Can we 
  somehow come up with new ways to circumvent the problem of qrm on the DX 
  transmit frequency? Maybe, but I don't think answering callers on their 
  own frequency is the way. I think this has been done before, resulting in 
  massive chaos.
  73 for now,
  Duane, WV2B
  __SNIP by 
  SM5DQC__


Re: [DX-CHAT] Question

2006-03-19 Thread Norm Gertz
Very true Jerry.some years back when the cesspool of amateur radio 14313 
existed a college professor psyciatrist who specialized in this type of 
behaviour gave one sentence of advice for this situation Ignore, Ignore 
and Ignore


73   Norm   K1AA


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To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Question


We're giving the freebanders and intentional QRMers entirely too much 
attention and too much publicity. Going back 40+ years I can't remember a 
DXpedition that didn't get some QRM, though it's a lot more these days... 
but that just makes working the DX that much more of a challenge. Ignore 
those malicious QRMers. They only do it to irritate us, and when we get 
annoyed, they win.


Every time I hear one of the Deserving lose his cool and even acknowledge 
the existence of these jerks, I cringe... because some idiot QRMer just 
got what he wanted. We need to keep our focus on the DX, play the game our 
way, not their way, and work the DX right over them. Pretend they are not 
even there. That way, we win and they lose.


Something to think about.

73,  Jerry K3BZ


- Original Message - 
From: David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Question



Ron,

I must add one more as I know this for a fact.  Now that we are near the 
bottom of this sunspot cycle, some of those Freeband Nuts in Europe and 
the US that have all that expensive ham gear can't use it much on 27  28 
MHz. They are having Big Fun QRMing ham DXpeditions and braging about 
it on their web sites.


I will take this opportunity to thank all the Gentlemen DXers that have 
responded to my question here on dx-chat and direct.  It has been very 
informative.


Dave - K4SSU  (K4SSU/KP1)


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Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Question



Peter,

Hmmm.  Not a bad idea, but I'm not so sure how well it would work.
Remember, at the time that US Phone privileges started at 14.200, the 
14.1 -

14.2 part of the band was filled with DX Phone.  Now, while a lot of the
region below 14.150 still has DX Phone, you're also finding more and 
more

digital modes in the same area.

More importantly, moving the unofficial calling frequencies won't solve 
the

fundamental problem involved.  Wherever the DX station listening up
transmits, on any band, you will always have the combined problems of:

1. The DX'er who accidently forgets to put his rig in split and 
transmits on

top of the DX
2. The lid who deliberately neglects to put his rig in split and 
transmits

on top of the DX
3. The alleged DX'er who claims that they can't work split... sometimes
true, sometimes not
4. The operator (sometimes DX'er, sometimes not) who hears the DX 
calling,
but doesn't hear or doesn't understand listening up who calls on the 
DX's

frequency
5. The frequency cops, most of whom mean well, who transmit on top of 
the DX
to try and tell the aforementioned ops that they're QRM'ing the DX... 
and in

the process, QRM the DX
6. The net or alleged net or sked or alleged sked that always operates 
on
or around this frequency and time, thus giving them hypothetical 
ownership

of the frequency range, who either demand that the DX move, the pile-up
move, or who blunder on with their QSO anyway
7. The usually innocent QSO that suddenly gets QRM from the DX and/or 
pileup
due to propagation shift, who rather than move (if they can) try to 
blunder

on, either not knowing or not caring that they're now QRM'ing the DX 
pileup back

I can go on, and I'm sure someone will add a few, but you get the point.
Some of this can be solved by better operators... and better operators
happen when those of us who know them try to teach them or show them 
better.
Some of this is just, well, bad luck.  And some of this is caused by 
that
extremely small percentage of lids (and even smaller percentage of those 
who

make regular lids look good) who for their own reasons of ego, perceived
slights, general mean streaks, sadism, or mental illness (diagnosed or
otherwise) enjoy making life miserable for the rest of us.

73

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Peter W2IRT
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Question


At 10:01 03/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



What is the solution to the qrm on the DX frequency?  Well, if
someone doesn't know the DX is woking split, or by accident is on
the wrong VFO, or whatever, it would be no problem if ppeople had
the smallest amount of self control. If the offending station is
calling with proper timing, when the Dx says QRZ, or is otherwise
ready for a call, calling on the DX transmit frequency is of 

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents

2006-03-16 Thread Norm Gertz
With all this speculationbe advised that Desecheo, Vieques, Culebra et 
al are all regular stops for the drug traffickers and others who always 
leave piles of trash all without any kind of permission from F  W.  DEA 
people are regular visitors to these islands.
While I can accept that F  W has regulations regarding who may set foot on 
the island I cant see how they can restrict amateur radio operators, 
photographers, bird watchers etc from plying their trade.  On US soil only 
the FCC can regulate amateur radio.


Watching this thread evolve with all its speculation is not worthy of the 
space on the chat page.


73   Norm  K1AA

- Original Message - 
From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: DX Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents



On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote:


I've been doing a lot of searching through Gov't documents, which are
accessible through the internet. It substantiated some very interesting,
although well known, information. Amateur Radio is expressly prohibited
on KP5 islands. Those of you who were active in the late 80's and early
90's remember those problems, and accusations. I will always remember
some Gov't official both on the TV news and in the print media making a
statement to the effect he had see cleaner garbage dumps than the
conditions left behind by the ham-radio operators who were at KP5. As it
turns out no one, especially a low-level bureaucrat, at FW has the
authority to give permission for ham radio at KP5.


[snip]


As I pointed out above, and I think it is pretty widely known, special
permission for KP5 is just not routinely going to happen, it almost
requires an act of Congress.



It's evidently NOT widely known.  What are your references that amateur
radio operation is expressly ptohibited on KP5 island?

Zack W9SZ

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Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Norm Gertz
Not surprised.some bureaocrat/political appointee was mad that he was 
not consulted etc
The sad part is that dope runners and others go ashore there all the time 
without getting caught.


73   Norm   K1AA


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:16 AM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?



Well, it seems the order from on high for KP5 to QRT has
been dismissed as one of those things.  Those who worked
them will get the card - myself included.

But my inquiring mind still wants to know who took it
upon them self to decide that KP5 should be cut short.

Rich, N8UX.

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Re: [DX-CHAT] C6 - suffix or prefix?

2006-03-01 Thread Norm Gertz
Peterif you would just look at the license you received from 
telecommunications it will specifically state that you should use the /C6A 
suffixits been that way for many years.


73   Norm   K1AA


- Original Message - 
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dx-chat@njdxa.org; Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] C6 - suffix or prefix?


The Bahamas requires you to use yourcall/C6A. This is stated on your 
license once issued.  I just looked at my license. Been there few times.


Will send you picture of my license if you like.

Bill W4WX
EX C6AJT, W4WX/C6A..

Bill

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To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] C6 - suffix or prefix?


Hi, just wondering. When I operate from C6 in just over a week, I'll be 
doing so with a reciprocal Bahamian license based on my US call; should I 
be signing C6/W2IRT or W2IRT/C6?


Thanks.



- Peter

W2IRT

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Re: [DX-CHAT] C6 - suffix or prefix?

2006-02-24 Thread Norm Gertz
Listen to the Waterway gang on 7268 after 8 eastern morningsmany of the 
boats are in the Bahamas.you will see that they all sign with /C6A 
suffix.


73   Norm   K1AA


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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:40 PM
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A,  don't think it works quite that way in C6

http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2001/01/03/1/?nc=1#New

http://www.qsl.net/oh2mcn/c6.htm

73  GL,
Mike K1MK
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- Original Message -
From: Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:53 pm
Subject: [DX-CHAT] C6 - suffix or prefix?


Hi, just wondering. When I operate from C6 in just over a week,
I'll
be doing so with a reciprocal Bahamian license based on my US
call;
should I be signing C6/W2IRT or W2IRT/C6?

Thanks.



- Peter

W2IRT

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Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.

2005-12-17 Thread Norm Gertz
Shame on you unhappy campers...these guys deserve credit for undertaking 
this chore..it is hard work to say the least.the heat, bugs, 
landcrabs and all the other diversions.   Aak anyone who has ever done this.


I heard them stand by for EU last night and JA this morning.  They are doing 
their job as best they can.


You should be able to find where he is listening with a little effort;  you 
cant depend on a cluster.


NormK1AA

- Original Message - 
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Kurt W. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.


This is the first time I have ever heard of poor spots.   This is 
unbelievable!!! These guys taking their time, money, etc and staying up 
for hours without sleep in a tent at 120 degrees and you complaining about 
the quality of the THEIR operation...   You should be ashamed of 
yourself...


I, and many others, worked them on 30 meters yesterday.  It took me about 
15 minutes.


Have you ever tried golf?  Sounds like you need a change.

Bill W4WX


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To: dx-news@njdxa.org
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:37 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.



Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m.
Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was 
listening.

I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same
frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to 
transmit.



Future reference why not give some indication, from time to time, where 
you

are listing.

I spend 3 hours, call me foolish... and I still don't know if I'm in the 
log

for 30m.  I thought I heard him reply to me...

Is it me just getting old and cranky?

73;
Kurt - W2MW


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Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.

2005-12-17 Thread Norm Gertz

Jim writes:How did we ever work DX *before* packet? 

You know how we did..with paper logs, finding the right spot by hunting 
and a lot of patience.


Looks like our push button culture has moved in on the DX scene.

73Norm   K1AA 

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Re: [DX-CHAT] CQ song

2005-11-20 Thread Norm Gertz

Try  http://www.zerobeat.net/morse505.html
hope thats what you are looking for.

73   Norm   K1AA


- Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WC7N [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX-CHAT dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] CQ song



At 03:31 PM 11/20/2005, WC7N wrote:

I know I kept that neat song that was on the web about a year ago 
that the theme was CQ... Real good band and singers.


Does somebody have it or the route for it... Wanted to play that 
today for a friend but couldn't find it.

Search google for cq serenade
Some VE2 was a band leader and recorded it.
73 - Jim AD1C


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Re: [DX-CHAT] cancel radio for VU2RBI

2005-07-25 Thread NORM GERTZ
Charles.you did it with all good intentions..there is no problem. 
Glad she will be taken care of.


73   Norm


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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] cancel radio for VU2RBI



We all make mistreaks.  But it takes an exceptional person to admit it.

de Paul, W8AEF

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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:45 AM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] cancel radio for VU2RBI


Dear fellow DXers  I made a significant mistake and wrong 
understanding regarding VU2RBI's need for a new ham radio rig.  I had 
discovered that her current radio is not working and had the hope 
something could be done to help.  Bill, W4WX, to continue the retraction, 
will be contacting anyone who may have proposed some help .


I was wrong to have made this call for help and hope all will forgive my 
misunderstood idealism.  Sometimes, I type before I think everything to 
the conclusion.

73,

Charles Harpole
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Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

2005-07-18 Thread Norm Gertz
Remember.condensation from the extreme changes in temperature also 
creates water.


73   Norm   K1AA]


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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings


I don't know why, but single, double, and triple wraps don't 
matter--mosture still gets in.


Last week I took a 4 element 2m yagi off a 40' tower and when I tilted the 
boom (maybe 40 long) water came pouring out of the end.


This in the Arizona desert in a location that has not seen rain in 6 
months.


de Paul, W8AEF in Phoenix, AZ.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A

2005-07-16 Thread Norm Gertz
From an old dedicated CW operator..licensed since 1937 and was a high 

speed CW operator at WAR 41/42...
Computer generated CW has allowed many operators with problems or handicaps 
to produce perfect CW.
Yes, to answer your question, it is valid for CW DXCC.  There are no 
restrictions on how you copy...with a pencil, on a mill or via a code 
reader.


73   Norm   K1AA


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Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A


Well Jerry I think I qualify as a serious CW operator , Honor Roll CW and 
all with my Bencher or vibroplex speed key.  I believe no matter how the 
signal is generated, computer, key, etc, what goes out over the air is a 
CW signal composed of dots and dashes.  What you hear is a CW signal and 
how you copy it or generate the CW signal, I do not believe is  addressed 
in the DXCC regs.


I hear some SSB ops actually use a recording device to transmit their call 
and actually record the incoming signal.  But I guess your theory is that 
it really isn't true SSB operations.


Rod WC7N
- Original Message - 
From: Jerry K3BZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: (Reflector) DX-CHAT dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A


Apparently SV2ASP/A is sending and receiving CW using a computer program 
in
both directions. Does this qualify as a real CW QSO?  Valid for CW 
DXCC?


If the answer is yes, the next question is should it be?

No flames, pleaseit's only a question. I'm not singling out Monk 
Apollo,

there's a growing number of guys doing this.  And it's a serious
question I'm just wondering about the opinions of serious CW ops out
there.

73,  Jerry K3BZ



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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yosemite Sam

2005-02-12 Thread Norm Gertz
Looks like the perpetrator has achieved his/her goals and got the attention 
they wanted..as in the case of intentional QRMers, the best advice is to 
IGNORE them..let the FCC do its job.

73   Norm  K1AA
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From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: John and Mary Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yosemite Sam


No, it has been identified as a snip from the cartoon Bunker Hill Bunny
(Warner Bros., Looney Tunes, 1949).  It IS Yosemite Sam.  So the voice is
that of Mel Blanc.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, John and Mary Powell wrote:
What is the nature of the speaker's voice, foreign sounding ?.
73
John. ZL1BHQ
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To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 2:23 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yosemite Sam


 I posted this on another group and no one responded.  Hopefully it's 
 not
 too off-topic but the mystery intrigues me.

 *

 There is a station we've been discussing a lot lately on the spynumbers
 discussion group.  We're calling it Yosemite Sam.

 The station transmits a brief signal in DSB (no carrier) on 4 
 frequencies
 - 3700 (yes, in the middle of 75/80 meter band), 4300, 6500 and 10500 
 kHz.
 The signal consists of an 800 msec data burst of some sort followed by
 Yosemite Sam saying Varmint, I'm a gonna blow you to 
 smithereenies.
 The signal appears on 3700 kHz, then ten seconds later on 4300 kHz, 
 then
 ten seconds later on 6500, then ten seconds later on 10500.  It then
 repeats the cycle on 3700.  So it appears on any one freqency every 40
 seconds.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need

2003-09-10 Thread Norm Gertz
Larry..your question sparked some interest by the troops.
The fact is however that we really cannot generate Q signals just for the
USA;  these are international in nature.
Nothing however is to prevent any operator from making a query in any manner
he chooses.

73NormK1AA
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Norm Gertz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need


 Larry, you are right that it doesn't fit.  However, everyone knows
 exactly what it means.  Can you imagine the confusion as everyone, world
 wide, tried to implement such a change.  I learned it years ago as a
 novice.  While it literally isn't correct, why change it if it ain't
 broke.  I don't get it.

 Steve, N4JQQ

 Norm Gertz wrote:
 
  Larry.how about QBY?Is the freq busy?
 
  73   NormK1AA
 
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  From: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:06 AM
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need
 
   Would someone at ARRL who is in a leadership position
   take the following for action, pass it through the hallowed
   halls, under that curved piece of wood, and promulgate
   in the right direction. Oh, Wayne Mills, what say OM ?
  
   We CW Ops have needed an appropriate Q Signal for
   years for Is the frequency in use ?
  
   QRL ?  - Are you (your station) busy (sending/receiving
  traffic) ?  does not fit.
  
   QRZ ? - Who (what station) is calling me ? does not fit.
  
   I though about QFU: F - Freuency,  U - use. That does
   fit, but well we CW Ops know that at times (especially
   in unruly pile-ups), we hear all too many  FU's.
  
   So...What about QFB ? - Is the Frequency Busy (in use) ?
  
   What say CW Ops - can anyone come up with a better
   one ?  On SSB, Is the frequency is use ? - that's easy. We
   CW guys need something more fitting than QRL or QRZ !
  
   Larry - K4WLS
  
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Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need

2003-09-09 Thread Norm Gertz
Larry.how about QBY?Is the freq busy?

73   NormK1AA


- Original Message - 
From: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need


 Would someone at ARRL who is in a leadership position
 take the following for action, pass it through the hallowed
 halls, under that curved piece of wood, and promulgate
 in the right direction. Oh, Wayne Mills, what say OM ?
 
 We CW Ops have needed an appropriate Q Signal for
 years for Is the frequency in use ?
 
 QRL ?  - Are you (your station) busy (sending/receiving
traffic) ?  does not fit.
 
 QRZ ? - Who (what station) is calling me ? does not fit.
 
 I though about QFU: F - Freuency,  U - use. That does
 fit, but well we CW Ops know that at times (especially
 in unruly pile-ups), we hear all too many  FU's.
 
 So...What about QFB ? - Is the Frequency Busy (in use) ?
 
 What say CW Ops - can anyone come up with a better
 one ?  On SSB, Is the frequency is use ? - that's easy. We
 CW guys need something more fitting than QRL or QRZ !
 
 Larry - K4WLS
 
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-03 Thread Norm Gertz
Ronit will never happen.closing down Roosevelt Roads means a loss of
2000 plus jobs and millions of dollars spent in the local economy.
Conquistador Hotel next door stayed shut down for years until recent times.

They are now wishing for relief for the victims.

73   Norm   K1AA
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From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen


 Too far away...

 You know, of course, the irony of the Navy pulling out of Vieques (sp?) as
a
 bombing range.  They've also closed the Naval base there.  NOW the
islanders
 don't know if they're going to get enough of a tourist trade to replace
the
 loss.

 Proof once again of the old (allegedly BY) proverb:  Be careful what you
 wish for.  You might get it.

 73, ron wn3vaw

 We're not going to fall for a banana in the tail pipe.

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen


 In a message dated 9/2/03 10:44:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:

  I need BS7...that's it...let it resurface...!   WA8JOC

 The Puerto Ricans want the Military to stop using one of their islands
 for Bombing Practice.  I hereby nominate  'Scaffold Reef'  as their next
 target.  Talk about a 'Deleted Entity' !   :-)

 Tom  N4KG  (worked both operations, one on CW other on SSB...so it goes)
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Re: [DX-CHAT] CW Send Speed - QRS

2003-08-25 Thread Norm Gertz
Larrychalk it up to the new generation.

In times past CW operators automatically reduced their speed to that of the
other station or the slowest station in the net.

As you recommend.there is nothing wrong with asking the other station to
QRSits just a matter of courtesy.

73Norm   K1AA

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From: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:56 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] CW Send Speed - QRS


 Due to the lousy prop on the higher bands of late, I have
 been spending a lot of time on 30M. Probably, due to the
 same reason, so have a lot of New Ops just getting their
 feet wet on CW and Older Ops getting back on the air
 whose CW is a bit rusty.

 About 90 % of the time I have found that these New Ops
 and Older Ops are sending around 5 WPM faster than
 what they can copy. If during a QSO, a sta told me my
 CW was too fast and I was sending at the same speed he
 was sending, I politely told him so, and added the remark
 that his CW speed was what the other Op almost always
 used as a guage for his send speed. So, I said, please adjust
 your send speed to what you can copy. I of course went
 QRS to say this.

 Many stas thanked me for this tip, while other stations,
 even with strong signals, never came back to me after this
 suggestion. I really did not mean to humiliate anyone or
 make anyone get upset, I just thought it was a helpful tip.

 Not once, however, did I hear PSE QRS from the other sta.
 QRS has always meant Please decrease your send speed
 to WPM, or today just simply decrease your send
 speed.

 If you are a New Op just getting your feet wet with CW
 or an Older Op just getting back on the bands and your
 CW is a bit rusty, please adjust your send speed to what you
 can comfortably copy. Most experienced CW Ops are
 very congenial and obliging. Even if you happen to make
 out the call of a CQ faster than you can copy, call the sta
 and give a PSE QRS. Bet the other Op will slow down for
 a QSO with you.

 Don't ever feel bad about having to tell the other station to
 QRS. I can't copy 45 WPM anymore, so I often have to
 say QRS myself !!!

 Thanks all and DX-Chat,  Larry   K4WLS


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Isn't that a Lynyrd Synyrd song, or am I thinking of FreeBIRD?

2002-12-04 Thread Norm Gertz
Ron wrote:   Other FB activity:  Guantanamo Bay?  We have some military
personnel
breaking the law?  Really? 

Should not happen on a military base..I will see that the base Comm
Officer is advised and hope that corrective measures are taken as required.

73   NormK1AA

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Military contacts?

2002-07-15 Thread Norm Gertz

If indeed he was on a Navy ship then he had to use their equipment and have
the approval of the ships CommO etc...
If he was on a capitol shipcarrier etc it is possible they had a club
station but even then they would normally require the operator to show proof
of an amateur license.
I think it was just some wise guy operating from home pulling a leg or two.

73Norm   K1AA

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