[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, December 3, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Sidd wrote: Here's an interesting observation: ... Thus, I have been MUCH better off keeping my money in a NZ bank at an interest rate of 6.5% than I would have been if I had kept it in gold. Interesting. You mentioned USD/AU and USD/NZD, but do you

[e-gold-list] Re: NZ banks

2003-12-04 Thread Mike Schneider
At 10:56 PM +1300 12/4/03, Graham Kelly wrote: MS, Can I assist? I cannot get you a NZ account, but I can help other ways, maybe! Graham Kelly CEO CEO of what? Can you recommend an NZ bank that accepts deposit accounts (preferably with VISA debit card) from non-natives, offers that 6.5%

[e-gold-list] Re: Fairy Wings Auctions Accepting E-gold -- Great Holiday Gift

2003-12-04 Thread Daniel Burton
Jim Davidson wrote: Tell anyone else you know who would be interested in buying these items with e-gold. I'm not doing this entirely for my own financial gain. I must say that the GoldBarter.com auction site exists entirely for financial gain. It is not only okay, but preferred that people

[e-gold-list] Re: market thrills ..

2003-12-04 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
Robert B.Z. wrote: Fourthly -- the sensation of being paid .62 grams, forty times, at Noon on the first of the month is something like this: Somebody get this man laid. I Beg to differ Robert, The Marketing Major you write of has no issues regarding your concern, I think your statement rude

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold Funding on the Virtual Visa

2003-12-04 Thread Internet Investment Group
go directly to the source: http://www.epassporte.com Graham, How do we fund the Virtual Visa by the e-gold sale. Tom is looking to sell e-gold now, how does he do it? We can't find any mention of it on your web (being so new), so should he use the Fund Debit Card form? What is the e-gold

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread James M. Ray
At 5:12 PM +1300 12/4/03, Sidd wrote: Here's an interesting observation: ... You Americans must be really pissed at how your currency is being destroyed! So far, it doesn't seem to be much of an issue. Most folks have probably forgotten the high inflation days of the '70s by now, so it's a

[e-gold-list] Re: NZ banks

2003-12-04 Thread Drew
Mike, What I'm looking for should be obvious: A debit card with low or no currency-conversion fees which I can use anywhere in the world, off a deposit account with a decent rate of interest, in a currency which equals or beats gold. If should also be easy to move funds into and out of the

[e-gold-list] Re: NZ banks

2003-12-04 Thread Graham Kelly
Frankly, all members on this list SHOULD fly to NZ, and get a bank account. The NZ internal P2P transfers are mostly dynamic... ... and come to lunch with me, when you arrive! BTW, I simply call my bank, and request international transfers, mutiple times per day. Graham Kelly CEO On Fri, 5 Dec

[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr! Virtual Visa and ATM card

2003-12-04 Thread Katz Global Media
at least he shows some respect and has business communication skills. You SHOUT like you are a 12 your old spoiled brat on an aol forum. Would you not get farther if you calmed down and spoke to Graham offlist and present your advise professionally? You might get better results. Gordon NO. HE

[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr! Virtual Visa and ATM card

2003-12-04 Thread Viking Coder
at least he shows some respect and has business communication skills. You SHOUT like you are a 12 your old spoiled brat on an aol forum. Would you not get farther if you calmed down and spoke to Graham offlist and present your advise professionally? You might get better results. Yep...

[e-gold-list] Re: Professional DDOS protection

2003-12-04 Thread Katz Global Media
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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold Funding on the Virtual Visa

2003-12-04 Thread Graham Kelly
Garry, Please let me educate you here. Epassport will not fund Mark's/Tom's debit card by an ecurrency payment. However, I can and will, along with all the other customers/market makers who wish to use their/our/my services. That's what I AM! Proud to be a market maker! Guys: If you want a

[e-gold-list] Re: GoldNow has Happy Customers (mostly!)

2003-12-04 Thread Graham Kelly
LOL, My wife thinks I'm stupid, on a regular basis... but most of my staff/customers/suppliers seem to like me. Certainly, the customers vote with their $$$. As always. If only you knew the truth about Steve Renner... and Ragnar is a complete gentleman, and a sharp operator. You would be well

[e-gold-list] Re: GoldNow has 117 unhappy customers and 12 happy customers. The rest is only lies.

2003-12-04 Thread Viking Coder
I did business with goldNow and Graham Kelly and I was disgusted. Then don't re-use his services. His lies are so obvious! His www.goldnow.st page has only about 50 hits daily, check on www.alexa.com ! http://pages.alexa.com/prod_serv/traffic_learn_more.html The Alexa Toolbar turns itself

[e-gold-list] Re: GoldNow has 117 unhappy customers and 12 happy customers. The rest is only lies.

2003-12-04 Thread Katz Global Media
My understanding is that alexa only tracks traffic from alexa users with the toolbar installed and that makes it a tool with little use and is heavily underreporting peoples actual traffic. Gordon www.katzglobal.com Anonymous HostingĀ® Solutions --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list

[e-gold-list] Re: market thrills ..

2003-12-04 Thread jpm
Somebody get this man laid. He is hallucinating of a life back in 1850 when $300 could have bought him all that... Robert, my madcap friend, it is not so much the volume of gloriously passive monthly money ($300), but the style and ease of having an investment in the e-gold universe Having been

[e-gold-list] Re: USD, GAU, EUR, AUD, etc.

2003-12-04 Thread jpm
What a day for gold, with wild swings up and down, still ending up though: http://kitco.com/charts/popup/au24hr3day.html Like the previous day, a very turnaround signal - maybe a short down leg will start... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread Sidd
Hello Patrick, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: Interesting. You mentioned USD/AU and USD/NZD, but do you have a bottom line figure on NZD/AU? I mean, how much has the price of gold in NZD dropped over the last two years? Actually, from the data I have, in the same time period I quoted before, it

[e-gold-list] RE: GoldNow has 117 unhappy customers and 12 happy customers. The rest is only lies.

2003-12-04 Thread Julie Donska
I did business with goldNow and Graham Kelly and I was disgusted. His unprofessionalism only matches the ones of Ragnar from Gold Age and Steve Renner from CashCards. It is a wonder how a guy like him is let to advertise on e-gold-list every single day, his bullshits. I just have to say

[e-gold-list] Re: GoldNow has 117 unhappy customers and 12 happy customers. The rest is only lies.

2003-12-04 Thread FileMatrix
His lies are so obvious! His www.goldnow.st page has only about 50 hits daily, check on www.alexa.com ! Perhaps you would like to tell us how in God's name is that relevant to the traffic of a site?! Or perhaps you should first understand how a 'hit' of a web page is and can be counted... or,

[e-gold-list] RE: GoldNow has 117 unhappy customers BULLSHIT

2003-12-04 Thread pulakis
You are stupid ! I take e-gold from my customers for my services and I advice them to use goldnow.st to buy egold. I never heard any complaints and money are coming to me very nice YOU ARE A ASS ! I dont know Kelly and he does not know me either I dont have any affiliation with him. You are

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, December 4, 2003, at 03:22 PM, Sidd wrote: Interesting. You mentioned USD/AU and USD/NZD, but do you have a bottom line figure on NZD/AU? I mean, how much has the price of gold in NZD dropped over the last two years? Actually, from the data I have, in the same time period I

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price...link to charts

2003-12-04 Thread J Frank
The charts you may be after could be found here... Just change the studies, I use the EMA's 9,18 with 50 as filter in the 5 and 10 minute intervals, along with RSI 14 and MACD 12;26;9. For a broader look at things you may want to adjust time scales for the historic data you are after Sidd. You

[e-gold-list] Re: GoldNow has 117 unhappy customers and 12 happy customers. The rest is only lies.

2003-12-04 Thread Internet Investment Group
My understanding is that alexa only tracks traffic from alexa users with the toolbar installed with millions of users it may not be 100% accurate but it is a very useful tool in comparing popularity of sites and traffic fluctuations. you may see that paybygold has a traffic rank of 197,030

[e-gold-list] Re: customer realities

2003-12-04 Thread Internet Investment Group
Garry gave me USD worth of e-gold, and requested an exchange into DMT/Alta credits, which was delivered into his DMT/Alta account, albeit very late. AFTER the deal was concluded, he wanted a cancellation of the order. So, we reversed the entire process, and we returned USD worth of e-gold in full,

[e-gold-list] Re: customer realities

2003-12-04 Thread Jonathan Boles
On 05/12/2003, at 9:18 AM, Internet Investment Group wrote: Graham: Garry gave me USD worth of e-gold, [...] Garry: We wanted e-gold to get transferred into our ALTA account but you delivered USD. Looks fair... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

[e-gold-list] Re: GoldNow has 117 unhappy customers and 12 happy customers. The rest is only lies.

2003-12-04 Thread Jonathan Boles
On 05/12/2003, at 9:17 AM, Internet Investment Group wrote: My understanding is that alexa only tracks traffic from alexa users with the toolbar installed with millions of users it may not be 100% accurate but it is a very useful tool in comparing popularity of sites and traffic fluctuations.

[e-gold-list] Re: NZ banks

2003-12-04 Thread Mike Schneider
Mike, What I'm looking for should be obvious: A debit card with low or no currency-conversion fees which I can use anywhere in the world, off a deposit account with a decent rate of interest, in a currency which equals or beats gold. If should also be easy to move funds into and out of

[e-gold-list] RE: GoldNow has 117 unhappy customers and 12 happy customers. The rest is only lies.

2003-12-04 Thread Ian Green
That is just a piece of nonsense. Hits from whatever subset of DGC users are Alexa users, has extremely little correlation to the actual business volume GoldNow is handling. You put up a single information page about e-gold and you may get thousands of hits per day, but may be doing no business at

[e-gold-list] Re: MailVault encrypted emails

2003-12-04 Thread jpm
For god's sake Graham does your email work pal? Send me an email off list dude !! Guys, For built in PGP encryption and secure emails, go to MailVault.com , and register an account. I use them, and recommend them! Incidentally, be careful of these centralized-email systems, if privacy

[e-gold-list] Re: customer realities

2003-12-04 Thread Drew
Listen to your comments today Graham Kelly. Garry: CAPS is considered shouting in a list. AFTER the. AT THE TIME... MOST of... ALL aspects... SOME of... with BOTH those... do some WORK! LOL, My wife thinks I'm stupid, And finally. GOD. That's what I AM! /Drew

[e-gold-list] Re: MailVault encrypted emails

2003-12-04 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear JP, For built in PGP encryption and secure emails, go to MailVault.com , and register an account. I use them, and recommend them! Just for what it may be worth, a client of mine in France opened a MailVault account in 1999 on a visit to Costa Rica. Then Laissez Faire City Clerk Jack Freeman

[e-gold-list] Re: MailVault encrypted emails

2003-12-04 Thread jpm
Dear Jim, Dear JP, For built in PGP encryption and secure emails, go to MailVault.com , and register an account. I use them, and recommend them! Just for what it may be worth, a client of mine in France opened a MailVault account in 1999 on a visit to Costa Rica. Then Laissez Faire City

[e-gold-list] Re: My INTGold / INGold Debit Card

2003-12-03 Thread Andrei
Hi Nits, Thank you for your suggestion about GOLDNOW - I know they are respectable exchanger. ARE YOU SURE THAT THE CARD IS ACTIVATED ? I recieved my card with in 12 days of ordering and preloaded with $11 in it. I got a preactivated card . I don't know was it preactivated or not. I

[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-03 Thread Wayne Dawson
Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not arguing backed vs. fiat, or base system denominations, but inter-currency transaction roll-backs. When a transaction is made across non-equivalent currencies, is there an *ethical* means of determining what amount should be refunded? I don't think it's

[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
the order was reversed because goldLATER sent us usd instead of e-gold. we are faced with a loss in gold because goldLATER delayed our order. we had to wait approximately THREE WEEKS! graham kelly delayed it and should pay the price for this delay. in fact he has not to pay any price for this

[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
From: Graham Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded him. We cancelled the order because you sent us USD instead of e-gold into our ALTA account. Apparantly,

[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr!

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
From: Graham Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a result, GoldNow will be able to create a VIRTUAL Visa card for y'all literally within *seconds*, as well as fund it immediately!! (Well, maybe not ALL 32,000+ GoldNow stomers, within seconds!) The card will also have a CVV2 number. This is to be

[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCHbusiness with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
I'm not sure in the case of DMT since I'm not that familiar with it. If it was for a certain amount of -gold- in the DMT system, then the amt. of gold should be returned. yes it was for a certain amount of (e-)gold in the DMT system...but goldLATER only had USD in their ALTA account. --

[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
The ethical way to deal with a situation like this is to return the exact amount of gold by weight to the customer, not the USD value. Sidd. Why is that the case when the transaction was done in USD, and the site/emails contain notices stating such an eventuality? A transaction should be

[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr! Virtual Visa and ATM card

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
I'M EXCITED TO INFORM YOU THAT I ALREADY RECEIVED AN ENQUIRY OF A COMPETITOR OF GRAHAM KELLY: :-) COMPETITION IS GOOD AND BRINGS DOWN PROFITS. THIS IS ANOTHER HYPE. YOU DON'T NEED TO BUY THESE CARDS FROM GOLDLATER/MARKETINGGUY. IF YOU ARE INTERSTED I COULD TELL YOU WHERE (URL) YOU COULD

[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr! Virtual Visa and ATM card

2003-12-03 Thread Mike McNamara
At 11:18 AM -0500 12/3/03, Internet Investment Group LLC wrote: I'M EXCITED TO INFORM YOU THAT I ALREADY RECEIVED AN ENQUIRY OF A COMPETITOR OF GRAHAM KELLY: :-) I'm sure that everyone on the list here is excited that you've informed them personally of that exciting development. COMPETITION IS

[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr! Virtual Visa and ATM card

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
If you don't like the services or service that Graham Kelly offers, and clearly you don't, then simply don't use them in the future. I think you've made the point about your dissatisfaction many times over. still waiting for the gold --

[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-03 Thread Graham Kelly
Garry, Thank you for the opportunity to respond to this... again! You are correct, we were delayed 3 weeks, as we had issues accessing the DMT system. As I recall, so did YOU! As well, one of our suppliers of ecurrency who promised us fast delivery of DMT let us down (very unusual, and now

[e-gold-list] Re: equivalent currency exchange

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
One question though - was the exchange order in terms of USD or grams of gold? It is technically correct that e-gold does the transactional work on a grams basis. However, what was the spend, and exchange request, recorded as - 580 USD worth of or x grams of? 580 USD worth of e-gold --

[e-gold-list] Re: Fairy Wings Auctions Accepting E-gold -- Great Holiday Gift

2003-12-03 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Daniel, Fire Fairy Wings http://www.goldbarter.com/viewauction.jsp?id=315 Well, that's a new one. Tell anyone else you know who would be interested in buying these items with e-gold. I'm not doing this entirely for my own financial gain. I must say that the GoldBarter.com auction site

[e-gold-list] Re: Fairy Wings Auctions Accepting E-gold -- Great Holiday Gift

2003-12-03 Thread jrw
E-gold offers a pretty compelling argument, on their web site, that e-gold is better for merchants than credit cards. Jim Ray? What's that link again? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- e-gold Credit Card Comparison Calculator can be found using the search feature on the e-gold home page for

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold scheduled downtime notification bonus info

2003-12-03 Thread Cambist.net
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * largest total USD equivalent amount spent in one day: USD 11,763,781 What day was that? - John --- http://cambist.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraudster apprehended!

2003-12-03 Thread jpm
Outstanding ... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke

[e-gold-list] Re: SS Republic wreck is FOUND!!!

2003-12-03 Thread David Beroff
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's in INTERNATIONAL waters, so finders-keepers is still possible! WooHoo! Forgive my naivette, but wouldn't the proceeds belong to the insurance firm which covered the original wreck? = -- David Beroff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Founder/CEO, note.com LLC

[e-gold-list] Re: calling all exchange providers

2003-12-03 Thread Robert B.Z.
Sure, www.cyfrocash.com does exactly that. But the fees are steep. Cheers, Robert. budget privacy website hosting http://www.cyberfrontier.net start a profitable online business http://www.cyberfrontier.biz --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe

[e-gold-list] Re: cranking! Also, I need some help from 4 volunteers

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group
why pay a middleman when you can have it directly from the source. :-) please go to http://www.epassporte.com instead of goldLATER. graham, you thought you could make fast bucks by introducing your cards fast (before i expose it) ...but again you are to loo lategoldLATE.st From: Graham

[e-gold-list] Re: SS Republic wreck is FOUND!!!

2003-12-03 Thread James M. Ray
At 2:40 PM -0800 12/3/03, David Beroff wrote: ... Forgive my naivette, but wouldn't the proceeds belong to the insurance firm which covered the original wreck? ... Well, there are a variety of legal doctrines which apply to abandoned property, and the law would probably want to _encourage_

[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-03 Thread jpm
Also, what is your opinion of the top 3 hard gold assets to own for investment purposes? (I am speaking of the ones that are readily sellable in a high priced market.) Well I think owning IG gold (goldmoney, e-gold or whatever) is probably your best bet Gordon. You can always sell e-gold at or

[e-gold-list] Re: market thrills ..

2003-12-03 Thread Robert B.Z.
Fourthly -- the sensation of being paid .62 grams, forty times, at Noon on the first of the month is something like this: imagine waking up in the morning, but you aren't tired or hungry and have no cobwebs in your eyes, you sit up in zero gravity and find you are sitting naked in the

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraudster apprehended!

2003-12-03 Thread Robert B.Z.
Good Job !!! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke

[e-gold-list] Re: market thrills

2003-12-03 Thread Graham Kelly
Robert, Talking about market thrills, dontcha just love it when a disgruntled (ex, I hope!) customer forces your marketing plan just a tad forward? Ah well, that's life! Nothing harmed, just a bit of excitement, is all! Just a bit unexpected!! Orders continue to pour in! :) Have you sorted out

[e-gold-list] Re: Will the gold price go up?

2003-12-03 Thread Ahmed Ghazi
Hi, Current gold price is $404.xx The highest price I see since I play with e-gold. Do you think the price will go up? Yes, sure the prices will go up. I personally expect it to exceed $1000 within a few years. Please see the following article.

[e-gold-list] Re: calling all exchange providers

2003-12-03 Thread David Beroff
--- Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are any there exchange providers willing to accept regular and/or occassional direct deposits (affiliate program checks) for exchange to e-gold? We're not a provider (yet) but I guess we could do it, assuming that the affiliate program was reasonably

[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-03 Thread Katz Global Media
Hi, I would have to agree... I did call around today and the local rates on american Eagles are $31.35 over spot and to sell they are paying $4 under spot. Canadian Maples are going for $28.75 over spot. One would need a fairly large upswing to overcome that so i don't yet see how holding hard

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-03 Thread Sidd
Here's an interesting observation: In the last 2 years, most people have been excited about the rise in the gold price. On this day in 2001 the gold price was $275/ounce http://kitco.com/scripts/hist_charts/daily_graphs.cgi Today the gold price is $403/ounce.

[e-gold-list] Re: CASHCARDS

2003-12-02 Thread Steve Renner
Subject: CASHCARDS: noone cares that they ran with the money? From: Patrick Verbeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick, I cannot find you as being one of our Members Who are you and what is your complaint ? I have sent you emails to offer assistance, but you do not respond. If you have a legitimate

[e-gold-list] Re: My INTGold / INGold Debit Card

2003-12-02 Thread Nits
Hi Andrei, I have recently purchased intgold debit card and have used it a couple of times . I have read the Card announcement at INTGold site: https://intgold.com/m/debit.cgi/1. Then I asked INTGold about the terms and conditions and so on - NO RESPONSE. I also had similar problems

[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!

2003-12-02 Thread Sidd
Graham Kelly wrote: This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded him. He gave us $580 USD worth of e-gold, which was returned in *full*, less the DMT transfer fees, plus an apology for the delay.

[e-gold-list] Re: default to USD/weight?

2003-12-02 Thread Sidd
Graham Kelly wrote: I wouldn't normally disagree. However, the GoldNow terms of trade specifically advises that we default to the USD value. Besides, that not an ethical error, just a trading reality. No, you are incorrect, it is a matter of ethics. If someone gives you something and you wish

[e-gold-list] Re: SS Republic wreck is FOUND!!!

2003-12-02 Thread jpm
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/12/1201_031201_republic.html or http://makeashorterlink.com/?F278153B6 with $400,000 - oops, I mean $180 MILLION (now!) worth of gold! And it's in INTERNATIONAL waters, so finders-keepers is still possible! WooHoo! Hopefully good video soon of the

[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-02 Thread Sidd
Viking, Viking Coder wrote: Why is that the case when the transaction was done in USD, and the site/emails contain notices stating such an eventuality? Please read my previous message explaining the situation. If the reverse had happened, and the exact weight was returned, the client would be

[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-02 Thread Viking Coder
Please read my previous message explaining the situation. That message was posted while I composing mine. It would be easy to explain the logic of the refund if it was done correctly as I explained. Yes, but is it a matter of ethics, or of business practices/methods? I'm not arguing

[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-02 Thread Sidd
Viking Coder wrote: Yes, but is it a matter of ethics, or of business practices/methods? When a transaction is made across non-equivalent currencies, is there an *ethical* means of determining what amount should be refunded? There was no transaction across non-equivalent currencies, gold was

[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!

2003-12-02 Thread Cambist.net
From: Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham Kelly wrote: This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded him. He gave us $580 USD worth of e-gold, which was returned in *full*, less the DMT

[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!

2003-12-02 Thread jpm
It depends. If someone sells their gold for a certain amount of USD, say for a wire or check, and he later wants a refund, I think it is proper to deal in USD. The gold was sold at the time of the order and you are now dealing with dollars. Nuh. Note that you say John The gold was sold at the

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-12-01 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear JP, (ONE) say the system is 1/3 each of egold, pecunix, and goldmoney. Say pecunix totally evaporates. What would happen is that each user loses one third of their conglomerated-gold. (Sucks, but better than losing it all.) Wouldn't it be clever to insure against such a disaster? Then the

[e-gold-list] Re: Will December make or break the Internet?

2003-12-01 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:03 PM 11/28/2003, Michael Moore wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34163.html I don't believe either ICANN or the ITU should run the Internet. The goal should be to make centralized management irrelevant. Although some sort of centralized IP control is required, OR the

[e-gold-list] Re: 'financial architecture' for DGCs

2003-11-30 Thread zenbiker
Perhaps some existing exchange providers will offer more and more advanced services for merchants and consumers, via accounts of their own for their customers, from which they end up as the banks of the DGC world, offering a range of financial services, including own brand/related brand debit

[e-gold-list] Re: Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-30 Thread pipo
James M. Ray wrote: Today's my birthday, but I don't want anything for Jim Ray, except: http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/donate.html please give e-metal to Mozilla if you like their browser, and if you have not tried Mozilla, you're missing something very good. You will thank me (just for

[e-gold-list] Re: Stupid question

2003-11-30 Thread Katz Global Media
How do you make a link people can click to automatically take you to e-gold's shopping cart for them to pay you a preset amount? http://698942-USD20.00-Gold.e-gold.com just replace the account number and the price you need. Gordon www.katzglobal.com Anonymous Hosting(tm) Solutions --- You

[e-gold-list] Re: Stupid question

2003-11-30 Thread jpm
How do you make a link people can click to automatically take you to e-gold's shopping cart for them to pay you a preset amount? http://698942-USD20.00-Gold.e-gold.com just replace the account number and the price you need. Also, that's the wrong number at the start Gordon. It should always be

[e-gold-list] Re: Stupid question

2003-11-30 Thread Katz Global Media
why use that #? Also, that's the wrong number at the start Gordon. It should always be 241164 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your

[e-gold-list] Re: Stupid question

2003-11-30 Thread jpm
I was just kidding dude -- that is the first ever custom e-gold number - MY number! :) why use that #? Also, that's the wrong number at the start Gordon. It should always be 241164 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to

[e-gold-list] Re: Stupid question

2003-11-30 Thread Katz Global Media
I was thinking that at first then I started doubting myself. better to check... Gordon --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-30 Thread jpm
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[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-30 Thread Gold Price
Dear JP, Often at 1mdc people say well, 1mdc is based on e-gold, but no fees - could you also make one that is based on goldmoney, but no fees? So that would be fair enough, you could have a 1mdc based on egold, goldmoney, pecunix or whatever. Goldmoney will not permit such a currency because

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-30 Thread Khurram Khan
I remember me suggesting almost this same idea about a year and a half ago... http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg09415.html Check out the archives.. it might help the current discussion. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-29 Thread Robert B.Z.
Sidd, Untrue... 1g e-gold has ALWAYS been = to 1g Pecunix... Try it for yourself http://open2exchange.com/buy.sell...c2c What about the transaction fees on the deposit at pecinux? I think you have misunderstood Viking completely... Hence there has to be actual proof of the gold

[e-gold-list] Re: Yet another e-gold scam

2003-11-29 Thread Remco Boom
LOL... excellent idea! In fact, why not make it worth their while by offering a generous 5% premium if they do it in batches of $1280? That seems like a win-win situation :-) Remco At 06:00 29-11-2003, you wrote: David, Sounds like a good deal... make them pay you first! I'm sure you'll be

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-29 Thread Viking Coder
In fact, the mere existence of an independent reserve bank preempts the use of fiat, if you want to insist on proper term usage. So modify the term for proper current usage, which happens on a regular/continual basis, by removing any mention of 'government'. Fiat money = any

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-29 Thread Sidd
Robert B.Z. wrote: Sidd, Untrue... 1g e-gold has ALWAYS been = to 1g Pecunix... Try it for yourself http://open2exchange.com/buy.sell...c2c What about the transaction fees on the deposit at pecinux? It's free... Pecunix has a policy of offering preferred transaction rates to certain larger

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-28 Thread Gold Price
Dear Viking Coder, snip Or... Is the following statement not true? 1g e-gold = 1g pecunix = 1g e-bullion = 1g goldmoney The gold price per gram is different for e-gold and e-bullion while Pecunix and GoldMoney use the same price but are different again. Here is a snap shot of the current gold

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-28 Thread Robert B.Z.
How would such a conglomerated gold currency be a fiat currency? Sorry about the term abuse. I often use fiat incorrectly because of the insecurities it implies and because I want to differenciate from other digital currencies. While my idea of fiat is not necessarily correct I do assess it

[e-gold-list] Re: Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-28 Thread Asiana Gold
JMR wrote: Today's my birthday, but I don't want anything for Jim Ray, except: http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/donate.html please give e-metal to Mozilla if you like their browser, and if you have not tried Mozilla, you're missing something very good. You will thank me (just for tabbed

[e-gold-list] Re: Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-28 Thread Robert B.Z.
Happy Birthday JRM !!! May you live long and prosper ;o) Cheers, Robert. budget privacy website hosting http://www.cyberfrontier.net start a profitable online business http://www.cyberfrontier.biz budget domain registrations http://www.u2planet.com --- You are currently subscribed to

[e-gold-list] Re: UFO progress!

2003-11-28 Thread Graham Kelly
WB, LOL, YOU of little faith! I'm planning on YOU being my first passenger! Seriously, I'm looking forward to flying from the top of NZ, to Norfolk Island, then Lord Howe Island, then OZ. I'll be processing ecurrency orders at 10,000 feet on my laptop (via GPRS, when in actual range), flying

[e-gold-list] Re: Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-28 Thread Space Gold
Our hearty congratulations Jim! Regards, Paul www.spacegold.com Today's my birthday, but I don't want anything for Jim Ray, except: http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/donate.html please give e-metal to Mozilla if you like their browser, and if you have not tried Mozilla, you're missing

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-28 Thread Sidd
Robert, Robert B.Z. wrote: 1g e-gold = 1g pecunix = 1g e-bullion = 1g goldmoney No it is untrue on two counts: (1) 1g e-gold = (1g sth else - minus exchange fees) Untrue... 1g e-gold has ALWAYS been = to 1g Pecunix... Try it for yourself http://open2exchange.com/buy.sell...c2c Likewise for

[e-gold-list] Re: UFO progress!

2003-11-27 Thread Robert B.Z.
Graham, All my NZ customers will be invited for a flight (if they trust my flying!) Next year, we plan to move to Europe with the machine. Are you selling concessions for in-flight gold sales, yet? ;o) Cheers, Robert. budget privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net start a

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-27 Thread Robert B.Z.
You exchange 100g of e-gold for 100g of comgold. Those 100g of comgold aren't guaranteed to be redeemable for e-gold, but are guaranteed to be redeemable for 100g total of any of the currently underlying GBCs (17g pecunix, 13g goldmoney, 16g e-bullion, 14g 1mdc, 40g e-gold) due to the flux of

[e-gold-list] Re: UFO progress!

2003-11-27 Thread Graham Kelly
Robert, Mark my words, I'll get a pic of myself (or wife, or maybe even YOU) flying the UFO gyro, somewhere over the Pacific or Med, processing e-gold/ecurrency orders on a GPRS enabled laptop. (Maybe in Malta, GPRS is free there!) We are researching light-weight mobile cell repeaters/boosters,

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-27 Thread Drew
Hi Robert, And I believe that most 'consumers' have similar views. e-gold ruley supreme - other currencies are great because one can exchange them into e-gold, but e-gold is what people buy and spend the most. Yes, e-gold is great! Because I can instantly change it into Pecunix at

[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-27 Thread Viking Coder
You are essentially talking about an electronic reserve bank that issues fiat currency, based on supply and demand, yes? How would such a conglomerated gold currency be a fiat currency? Individual currencies (e-gold, pecunix, etc...) aren't considered fiat. 1mdc isn't considered fiat. Why then

[e-gold-list] Re: Pecunix security

2003-11-26 Thread FileMatrix
Sidd, there is no need to increase the length of the passwords. I understand that passwords are good for those people who print their PIKs and may loose them; it's a simple security backup system. For such a case, passwords need to be short to be easily remembered. Also, people who log-in from a

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