Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
He's also a helluva nice guy. He often helps out on the "pre-net" for the Sunday Collins Collectors Assn 14.263 net at 2000Z. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary K9GS Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:34

Re: [Elecraft] On VHF & UHF radios

2015-09-17 Thread Edward R Cole
While its true there is a drop off in numbers of serious weak-signal hams, I consider myself one. I have antennas and equipment for 50/144/222/432/900/1296/2400/3400/10,368 MHz I do eme on 144 and 1296 and building for 50 and 3400 eme. Being in Alaska really is in the VHF wilderness as there

[Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread ae4pb
Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd hardware dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically without being overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless hardware and the rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or nearly all) hardware that

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread Rick Robinson
Also using a bath towel under your work helps grab those little parts that amazingly grow legs and wander or jump off. On Thursday, September 17, 2015, ae...@carolinaheli.com < ae...@carolinaheli.com> wrote: > Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd hardware > dance.

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
Ah yes. The lemming washers. 73, Mike NF4L > On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Rick Robinson wrote: > > Also using a bath towel under your work helps grab those little parts that > amazingly grow legs and wander or jump off.

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread Jim Rogers
The assembly manual is quite clear when it calls for SS (stainless steel) hardware. RE: surgical rubber gloves - I would advise against that. The purpose of the anti-static mats and ESD percautions would be defeated by the use of any insulating material between you and the boards you are

Re: [Elecraft] Does the K3S/10 have the fans in the case?

2015-09-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
You are seeing a picture of the K3S/100 if it has fans. The K3S/10 has a blank panel where the fans for the KPA3A would mount. Cooling fans are not needed for the K3S/10 73, Don W3FPR On 9/17/2015 10:57 AM, dw wrote: Hi all, I'm seeing pictures of the K3s/10 with the dual fans in the back of

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 137, Issue 36

2015-09-17 Thread G4GNX - Alan
Sounds like a good plan Steve. 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: ad0es Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:30 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 137, Issue 36 Hi, When I started putting my K-Line together, and only owned the K3,

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Mike Flowers
I started with an old smaller pine kitchen table about 2 feet from the back wall of the shack. I walk behind it to do cabling, etc. On this I built a 3-level riser out of unpainted 5/8" exterior grade plywood - maybe $40 into the whole thing including cuts at the lumber yard. Elmer's carpenter's

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread Ray Sills
And, it couldn’t hurt to use an anti-static mat. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Rick Robinson wrote: > > Also using a bath towel under your work helps grab those little parts that > amazingly grow legs and wander or jump off. >

[Elecraft] Does the K3S/10 have the fans in the case?

2015-09-17 Thread dw
Hi all, I'm seeing pictures of the K3s/10 with the dual fans in the back of the case. I suspect that picture is probably from the 100 watt version? Is that correct? I would be surprised if the 10 watt version needed cooling fans. Tnx N1BBR -- bw...@fastmail.net

Re: [Elecraft] K3: How Set WPM CK

2015-09-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hold TEXT DEC switch, then rotate VFO B to select the CW decode mode (OFF, TX ONLY, etc.). One of the selections is "WPM CHK". 73, Wayne N6KR On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Phil Anderson wrote: > RE: K3. How do I set the CW "WPM CHK" in the VFO-B display area: > >

Re: [Elecraft] Equipment placement

2015-09-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, The KAT500 can be safely placed either above or below the KPA500. There was much discussion about the placement after the KAT500 was announced, and if you want to look it up, you should find information in the archives. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/17/2015 11:49 AM, David Bunte wrote: I have

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
For something called "wireless" there sure are a lot of wires. On 9/17/2015 7:56 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote: Depending on the desk top, the routing of the cables can be a mess. I put a false back and dressed the cable through slots and the mess was behind the panel.

Re: [Elecraft] Equipment placement

2015-09-17 Thread David Bunte
Thanks for the responses... I guess I only remembered what supported my approach. Dave - K9FN On Sep 17, 2015 12:04 PM, "Don Wilhelm" wrote: > Dave, > > The KAT500 can be safely placed either above or below the KPA500. > There was much discussion about the placement after

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread bill NY9H
for shelving , spend a bit more for this one time event... use multi-ply 'baltic birch" plywood,,,7 or 9 ply... they have it at home depot /lowes type stores, but a visit to the rockler woodworking store was great, as they had some 9 ply on sale .,.. why balticbirch :

[Elecraft] Fwd: Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Jerry Wright
Sent from Jerry's iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Don Wilhelm > Date: September 17, 2015 at 8:17:20 AM PDT > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT > Reply-To: w3...@embarqmail.com > > Mel, > > Your

[Elecraft] K3: How Set WPM CK

2015-09-17 Thread Phil Anderson
RE: K3. How do I set the CW "WPM CHK" in the VFO-B display area: Manual says use WPM CHK but doesn't say where to set that. Doesn't appear to be a menu item? tnx, Phil, W0XI --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread G4GNX - Alan
I am about to do the same, as soon as I've finished building the staircase to my attic conversion ham shack. At present I have a bare room with a lot of scope and I intend to have an operating position on one side and a small construction/repair bench on the other. I was discussing this

[Elecraft] Equipment placement

2015-09-17 Thread David Bunte
I have enjoyed the discussion and pictures of equipment stop etc... but was a bit surprised by the number of photos I have seen of the KAT500 sitting atop the KPA500. I borrowed a KAT500 from a friend and placed it on top of my KPA500 because I was just testing it and knew that would not be a

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Phil Hystad
Woodworking is my number one hobby (except for the coldest winter months). Ham radio is second to woodworking and my work is primarily furniture using hand-joinery (mortise & tenon, dovetails, etc.) and all hardwoods (favorites are Padauk and Maple). Yet, for my shack combined den/office, I

Re: [Elecraft] Equipment placement

2015-09-17 Thread Phil Hystad
I thought I remember either Wayne or Eric of Elecraft saying that the KAT500 could easily sit on top, or under, the KAP500. Either way is OK. 73, phil, K7PEH > On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:49 AM, David Bunte wrote: > > I have enjoyed the discussion and pictures of equipment stop

[Elecraft] KPA500/KAT500

2015-09-17 Thread G4GNX - Alan
Hi all. I am currently running an Icom IC7100 with a MFJ 998 Intellituner. I also have a K3 which is just waiting for it’s new home to be completed and I intend to use that as my main HF rig and I will be adding a KPA500 to the line-up. One thing that the MFJ unit has is a separate terminal to

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 137, Issue 36

2015-09-17 Thread ad0es
Hi, When I started putting my K-Line together, and only owned the K3, I made cardboard boxes up in the dimensions of the future equipment I planned on. I copied the front/back panel pics from the elecraft site and scaled to the actual dimensions & printed. I then pasted these on the

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mel, Your determination of the required shelf length sounds quite reasonable. If you are working with plywood, a normal maximum length for a bookcase shelf of 3/4 plywood is 32 inches without interim supports. If the shelf is going to be longer than that, or you will have substantial weight on

[Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread P.J.Hicks
Also don't forget to add a bit over 1/2" for each piece of equipment to allow for the handles or remove them.   PJH, N7PXY  __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread G4GNX - Alan
Me too Don. I am fortunate enough to have a fully equipped woodworking shop at home. I don't think that Home Depot, Lowes and the like are any different to the "pile it high, sell it (not so) cheap" DIY stores we have in the UK. Even some of our trade building suppliers are a bit suspect and

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread Jerry Moore
Yep, I expected static mat, wrist strap, and work strap were a given.. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ray Sills Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:09 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread Gary
And if you have one, ask the cat to stay away. Why you ask? Ha, mine relocated several parts and water boarding, threats, pleading, shakingdidn't do a damn bit of good. Gary -Original Message- From: "Jim Rogers" Sent: ‎17/‎09/‎2015 10:54 PM To:

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread ae4pb
The small box appears to be missing for the TCXO. I've gone through the bubble wrap jungle twice. On the gloves. My static mat is grounded via the static lead, The work piece is grounded via a static lead to the mat, and I'm grounded to the mat via another lead. It's a real world static sensitive

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Chuck Milam, N9KY
I've really enjoyed the conversation about shack and desktop setups, as I'm about to get into the garage, get behind the saw, and build a desktop equipment shelf. I've been talked out of building vertical supports, thanks to this list. So now I'm trying to future-proof my design. Eventually, I'd

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Chip Stratton
He has always welcomed hams who come to visit on his little island and offers to let them use almost any of his incredible collection of installed ham gear. I haven't taken advantage of this myself, but have communicated with him by email. He has a B, but also suggested to me that I could come

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft
Depending on the desk top, the routing of the cables can be a mess.  I put a false back and dressed the cable through slots and the mess was behind the panel.  A thought. Mel,, K6KBE From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" To: bruce Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jer, Congratulations on the work you have reported so far. I hope the rest of the assembly goes well and you find no problems. Is there a chance that your TCXO is already mounted on the KREF3 board? My only comment is that I do not like to have any magnetic tools or trays (or anything else

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread ae4pb
I did that when working on the Front panel to prevent scratches. I didn’t do that for the rest as I was concerned about static. Probably ok tho From: Rick Robinson [mailto:rickw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:43 AM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
>>> am I missing something obvious? <<< YES! The "K" Line !   :-D 73 Milverton / W9MMS. From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" To: bruce Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Robert Nobis
Jerry, Not sure that is a valid assumption when it comes to ham radio. 73, Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7...@nobis.net > On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:00, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: > > I'm wondering since Digital voice is replacing FM around the world how hard > it would be to add another mode to the

Re: [Elecraft] WSJT KX3 and GPS

2015-09-17 Thread wb7ond
When running WSJT with my KX3 portable, I use a program called NMEATIME in conjunction with a HOLUX bluetooth GPS receiver. My Holux is an older one, but Amazon has a couple newer models there, not too expensive. When you pair and connect the Holux, it shows up as a comport in the Windows

[Elecraft] Fwd: Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Phil Hystad
Actually, I think a different photo would show the tables I mention below a bit better. http://k7peh.us/hamradio/peh_hamshack_1.jpg http://k7peh.us/hamradio/peh_hamshack_3.jpg The room shown is the

Re: [Elecraft] Does the K3S/10 have the fans in the case?

2015-09-17 Thread Jim Lowman
This begs one question of a multi-question e-mail that I sent to Eric recently. I'm sure that he's busy after the local convention and hasn't had a chance to answer. Maybe I can get the answer from the collective wisdom of the list members in the interim. Originally I bought a K3/10 and later

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Bob
I've enjoyed it too.My woodworking skills are at best poor and more likely nonexistent so cabinetry is out of the question. What I did years ago and has worked out very well was some standard shelving from Lowe'a or HD. Vertical risers screwed into the studding and 18 inch deep brackets

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500/KAT500

2015-09-17 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,9/17/2015 10:15 AM, G4GNX - Alan wrote: It may have sounded ignorant, but I was concerned that there might be RFI and RF in the shack issues, although I couldn't see how MFJ allowed for this and they obviously don't. :-) ANY long wire that ends in the shack puts RF in the shack.

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Using dimension lumber meaning 1 x 12 and 2 x 2 as such, for the shelves use 1 x 12. Then using a length of 2 x 2, rabbit a 3/4" x 3/4" edge. This edge or notch will fit nicely under the front and back edge of the shelf material. I gives a finished look and added structural support and is

[Elecraft] Why black is the hot wire

2015-09-17 Thread David Robertson
At the early part of the 20th century, when electricians were wiring houses (knob and tube), the color of the electrical wire was only black. The power companies found that one side of the power feed (center tap on 220) to the house or building had to be grounded to prevent voltage buildup on the

Re: [Elecraft] Does the K3S/10 have the fans in the case?

2015-09-17 Thread dw
Sweet!! Thanks Don :-] Duane On Thu, Sep 17, 2015, at 08:21 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > You are seeing a picture of the K3S/100 if it has fans. > The K3S/10 has a blank panel where the fans for the KPA3A would mount. > Cooling fans are not needed for the K3S/10 > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Edward R Cole
I used standard peg board: http://www.kl7uw.com/Backside_Station.jpg One can loop tywraps thru the holes to tie down wiring. Helps to have really long arms, though! 73, Ed - KL7UW From: Mel Farrer via Elecraft To: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" , bruce

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Jim Lowman
If nothing else, all of these photos of such nicely-organized and neat shacks are inspiring me to get mine in better order. 73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] On VHF & UHF radios

2015-09-17 Thread Dave Olean
There used to be a larger number of "serious weak signal VHF operators, but the serious VHF operators are all dying off with no young ones to replace them. I use three K3s and three K2s in my VHF station. I have one Ten Tec OMNI V as well on 432. The big difference between a great HF vs VHF

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

2015-09-17 Thread Merv Schweigert
I have always had the problem of new or added gear fitting the "hutch" space, it was either to wide etc In my last desk top "hutch" I solved that problem, I made the horizontal shelves full width of the desk top, but the vertical supports or dividers I made loose or adjustable, I can slide

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on

2015-09-17 Thread ae4pb
No worries, Elecraft is on top of things for me. Part number for the back PA blank plate was accidently keyed in instead of the TCXO. It's on the way so no worries. I'm just VERY HAPPY the build went well and the Rig otherwise appears to be working (well other than no RX..LOL.. ). Just playing

Re: [Elecraft] Equipment placement

2015-09-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
The manual I have in my computer (from March 2014) says on Page 10: 0. Positioning the Amplifier Provide at least 2 inches (5 cm) clearance behind the fan and 1 inch (2.5 cm) above the amplifier for normal cooling air flow. Microsoft Word - KPA500 Owner's man Rev D.doc So if I

Re: [Elecraft] On VHF & UHF radios

2015-09-17 Thread Josh
How young is young? :) 73, Josh W6XU P.S. Bob K6QXY says you cut the phasing lines for my 6m EME array. Sent from my mobile device > On Sep 17, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Dave Olean wrote: > > no young ones to replace them

Re: [Elecraft] Equipment placement

2015-09-17 Thread Bob
For my operating I went with this as an authoritative source from March 2012: There should be no interaction issues between the KAT500 and the KPA500 when the KAT is under the amp. We also beefed up the KAT500 cabinet to handle the weight of the KPA500. Also, placing it on top of the amp does

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Bill Frantz
On 9/17/15 at 11:48 AM, n7...@nobis.net (Robert Nobis) wrote: See: I don't think this mode very popular yet, but it is attractive, taking less bandwidth than SSB. 73 Bill AE6JV > Jerry, > > Not sure that is a valid assumption when it comes to ham radio. >

[Elecraft] Manuals: Old-Radio

2015-09-17 Thread Alan D. Wilcox
Hello, Cleaning out the files, and the following manuals need new home. Take any or all for the price of posting it out to you. Meanwhile Zverev LC filter manual continues on eBay … www.ebay.com/itm/201426555139 Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-478-0736 (cell, text) http://WilcoxEngineering.com

Re: [Elecraft] On VHF & UHF radios

2015-09-17 Thread Bill Frantz
I feel the VHF/UHF bug beginning to bite as I very slowly work my way toward a Worked All Bands. How do the Elecraft transverters stack up with the other options? 73 BIll AE6JV --- Bill Frantz| Truth and love must

Re: [Elecraft] Manuals: Old-Radio

2015-09-17 Thread Mike Markowski
A great and thorough book! (Though I have only the pdf.) 73, Mike ab3ap On 09/17/2015 05:58 PM, Alan D. Wilcox wrote: [...] Meanwhile Zverev LC filter manual continues on eBay … www.ebay.com/itm/201426555139 Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-478-0736 (cell, text) http://WilcoxEngineering.com

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500/KAT500

2015-09-17 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,9/17/2015 9:31 AM, G4GNX - Alan wrote: Does the KAT500 have the capability to tune a random wire, even just connected to the center of a SO239 Of course -- that's how almost any tuner would do it. or are there other ways of achieving this? No 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500/KAT500

2015-09-17 Thread G4GNX - Alan
Thanks Jim. It may have sounded ignorant, but I was concerned that there might be RFI and RF in the shack issues, although I couldn't see how MFJ allowed for this and they obviously don't. :-) I will probably sell the MFJ 998 as it has shortcomings for me. It refuses to tune out a bad SWR

[Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread ae4pb
I'm wondering since Digital voice is replacing FM around the world how hard it would be to add another mode to the K3S? I'm not even sure what the standards are but one country just set the date to get rid of FM permanently and switch to DV. Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 10324

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
You have listed 3 digital voice modes that do not talk to each other. Furthermore, I recall that these are proprietary coding schemes. That is not "Ham Radio" in my mind. Ham Radio is "everyone can talk to everyone else", and those digital voice systems where you can only talk to those hams

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Matthew Cook
If you take a closer look at the spectral bandwidths of the current crop of digital VHF/UHF voice systems and compare them to 10k1 NBFM I think you'll be surprised. Unless govt agencies start racking and stacking digtal LMR systems without guard bands then there is no clear advantage. The

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
While a dummy load that has a power rating greater than your maximum transmit power is a worthwhile addition to any hamshack - at higher power levels, I do not see them being used as precision measurement devices, but only as a temporary load for the purposes of "tuning up" or operating into a

Re: [Elecraft] Why black is the hot wire

2015-09-17 Thread Matthew Cook
Yes this makes wiring 220V US equipment in foreign countries like VK even more exciting, since we're the other way round... Black is Neutral. 73 Matthew VK5ZM On 18 September 2015 at 02:41, David Robertson wrote: > At the early part of the 20th century, when electricians

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Gary
Don, Absolutely spot on sir. Gary -Original Message- From: "Don Wilhelm" Sent: ‎18/‎09/‎2015 11:30 AM To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future? You have listed 3 digital voice modes that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Richard Fjeld
I was in to freeDV a year or two ago, and it has a long way to go. Still, it did work. I'm told the bandwidth has increased since then from 1200 hertz to 1600 hertz at present, which will be an improvement. At 1200 hertz, voices sounded robotic in nature. it lost sync often which may, or may

[Elecraft] Fwd: WSJT KX3 and GPS

2015-09-17 Thread Jerry Wright
Sent from Jerry's iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: wb7ond > Date: September 17, 2015 at 11:42:44 AM PDT > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT KX3 and GPS > > When running WSJT with my KX3 portable, I use a program called NMEATIME in >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Robert Nobis
Take a look at the digital voice modes that are being used on the VHF and UHF bands: DMR, D-STAR and Fusion. Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7...@nobis.net > On Sep 17, 2015, at 17:49, Richard Fjeld wrote: > > I was in to freeDV a year or two ago, and it has a long way to go. Still,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Richard Fjeld
FreeDV does not require a repeater. On 9/17/2015 8:03 PM, Robert Nobis wrote: Take a look at the digital voice modes that are being used on the VHF and UHF bands: DMR, D-STAR and Fusion. Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7...@nobis.net On Sep 17, 2015, at 17:49, Richard Fjeld

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
> On 9/17/2015 8:19 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: >> I'd love to find Elecraft offering a 500W dummy load to match the K-Line. >> No one even makes a sturdy paint can anymore. >> Actually, Ameritron still makes a “Cantenna" style dummy load. I’ve had the same one sitting under my desk for 20+

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Matthew Cook
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DUMMY-LOAD-RESISTOR-HYBRID-TERMINATION-800W-50OHM-DC-1GHZ-17-0376-DICONEX-/191284146241?hash=item2c896c7041 Heatsink, length of coax and a plug... finished ! 73 Matthew VK5ZM On 18 September 2015 at 09:49, Byron Peebles wrote: > I'd love to find

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Don, et al: I do agree that we typically do not need a precision load nor do we likely need a "full legal limit CCS" load. Most loads have a power vs. time de-rating curve. Just following that practice will save on lots of $$ and space. Yes the Cantenna loads are generally suitable. I

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Don't forget to add a BIG heat sink to the materials list along with some thermal compound. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/17/2015 9:15 PM, Matthew Cook wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Fred Jensen
Strangely, these non-inductive resistors do not last forever. When I came home from SE Asia to Houston in 67, I filled my Heath with mineral oil [interesting story on a Sunday], and it measured 51 ohms DC. Today, it measures 74 ohms DC. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club -

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Cliff Frescura
Maybe the dummy load could be an option for the speaker /s 73, Cliff K3LL -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:36 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Product

[Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Byron Peebles
I'd love to find Elecraft offering a 500W dummy load to match the K-Line. No one even makes a sturdy paint can anymore. 73, Byron __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Here you can find some nice 500 watt CCS Bird loads for $250 or so. http://www.nm3e.com/loadSampler.htm#LoadSampler Otherwise, it is Ameritron and MFJ that have the gallon bucket loads with oil for under $100. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/17/2015 7:19 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: I'd

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Sandy
I could not agree more Don! There isn't much advantage for amateur radio to digital voice operations. Just another "kink in the wire"! No advantage at all. All the digital voice stuff I have heard sounds terrible at times. Motorola's system (proprietary no doubt!) can sound absolutely

Re: [Elecraft] Manuals: Old-Radio...specially Zverev

2015-09-17 Thread jsodus
Hello, This note is about Zverev's book "Handbook of Filter Synthesis". As far as I know, there was only one edition. If there was a second, then perhaps the errors were corrected. Maybe there is an errata-sheet available But, if one is buying the first edition, be aware that the book is

Re: [Elecraft] On VHF & UHF radios

2015-09-17 Thread Dave Olean
Hi Josh Young is anyone who has hair left that isn't white. I think I did tune a bunch of phasing lines for Bob and his six meter antenna. I had an HP 875D network analyzer and could trim them to one degree. On the higher bands, I used a belt sander to trim the coax! It was a good way to trim

[Elecraft] Serious weak-signal VHF operators?

2015-09-17 Thread Jim Lowman
Well, Dave, your observations have caused me to take a second look at the K3(S) with transverters for VHF/UHF weak-signal work. The only problem is, an amplifier to bring the 2m power output of the 2m option for the K3(S) up to 120w or so is around $650 (looking at Mirage) and 120w is not all

[Elecraft] OT: Oil-filled dummy load suggestions

2015-09-17 Thread Ken G Kopp
In the case of the Heath "Cantenna" and similar type loads, the top surface of the oil must be above the top of the aluminum tube housing the resistor. If it isn't the oil's circulation upward through the tube and past the resistor will be severely limited. The heating and cooling through use

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
My "gallon size" dummy load is not a Heath, but that was inspiration for mine. I came across a bunch of 620 ohm 20 watt carbon resistors a long time ago. I wired 12 of them in parallel and put them into a gallon can of mineral oil. That dummy load still measures 51 ohms over the bands from 80

[Elecraft] (no subject)

2015-09-17 Thread jmlowman
Well, Dave, your observations have caused me to take a second look at the K3(S) with transverters for VHF/UHF weak-signal work. The only problem is, an amplifier to bring the 2m power output of the 2m option for the K3(S) up to 120w or so is around $650 (looking at Mirage) and 120w is not all

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
There are advantages to digital voice, but for Amateur Band use, I don't think we are "there yet". When we see an 'open source' digital voice mode that is published and can be implemented by any amateur, then I may change my position, but that is not the situation today. I do not believe

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Walter Underwood
Some non-inductive resistors do not have the coating that protects from the oil. Those will rise in resistance over time. This article has more than you ever wanted to know about the Cantenna and modern equivalents. http://www.orcadxcc.org/content/cantenna_va7jw.pdf

Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

2015-09-17 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,9/17/2015 6:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: While a dummy load that has a power rating greater than your maximum transmit power is a worthwhile addition to any hamshack - at higher power levels, I do not see them being used as precision measurement devices, but only as a temporary load for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Walter Underwood
FreeDV is open source. You can use the FreeDV API (http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?p=3469 ) or get a box that will implement it and can be updated with new protocols (http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?page_id=3902 ). Or

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Richard Fjeld
Yes he is. Oh, to be that capable. On 9/17/2015 11:53 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: FreeDV is open source. You can use the FreeDV API (http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?p=3469 ) or get a box that will implement it and can be updated with new protocols

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Voice Mode - our future?

2015-09-17 Thread Matthew Cook
Just to make sure we carry some Elecraft content you might like to look at the following URL's http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?p=4584 http://www.areg.org.au/?p=1719 And the code for both the Codec2 and FreeDV is freely available here; https://github.com/freedv 73 Matthew VK5ZM On 18 September

Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2015-09-17 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,9/17/2015 8:40 PM, jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The only problem is, an amplifier to bring the 2m power output of the 2m option for the K3(S) up to 120w or so is around $650 (looking at Mirage) and 120w is not all that much power, absent an antenna with very high gain. Remember I