Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2016-01-07 Thread John Thornton
The status bar in Axis shows the current position display. And by accident I figured out that the @# keys are more than just a toggle... JT On 1/7/2016 3:46 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 01/07/2016 11:32 AM, John Thornton wrote: >> Hi Jon, >> >> In Axis Help > Quick Reference displays all the

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2016-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/07/2016 11:32 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Hi Jon, > > In Axis Help > Quick Reference displays all the keyboard shortcuts. > However those two which I just tested work and are missing from both the > manual and the quick reference. > > Right, I fired up my LinuxCNC system and checked that they

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-31 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello Gene, There are many things related to udev and systemd that can cause interruptions for excess of 200 ms. (This is one of the main reasons that I refuse to use a desktop type OS on a machine that is cutting on a $20,000 casting.) It is also why I refuse to allow a full keyboard to be

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-30 Thread Thomas Gambone II
Neil, Are you using an off the shelf A20 board, or did you spin your own? As for your distro, what was your approach? Did you start from scratch / Linux From Source approach, ending up with your development copy being nearly identical to the production copy? OR Did you start with a light /

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-30 Thread Thomas Gambone II
Thank you for the offer to support, EBo! With gentoo, I've gotten into it on the Odroid C1, though not too successfully. Can't figure out some quirkiness with slow booting that happens. May be worth staring another thread to discuss. Will revisit my unfinished attempt and loop back. Thank you,

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-30 Thread EBo
If you end up working/developing on Gentoo, I will make time to lend a hand on that (or as much time as I can). EBo -- On Dec 30 2015 11:56 AM, Thomas Gambone II wrote: > Neil, > > Are you using an off the shelf A20 board, or did you spin your own? > > As for your distro, what was your

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-30 Thread Thomas Gambone II
EBo, Sure thing. Totally understandable, I've been all over the place too. Thank you, -Tom On Dec 30, 2015 6:04 PM, "EBo" wrote: > I am probably going to need a couple of weeks before I get back to the > DC area and have access to all my stuff. Can we postpone ramping up the

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-30 Thread EBo
I am probably going to need a couple of weeks before I get back to the DC area and have access to all my stuff. Can we postpone ramping up the Gentoo thread until then? If you want to start before hand I do have a Gentoo laptop with me, but I have other obligations for the holidays that will

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-29 Thread Rick Lair
I will have to look further into this, but Fagor Automation, of which we have two controls in our shop, is based off of a Linux software, and these are "Embedded", straight to the control, no desktop-ish look and feel. When you power the control on, it says "DECOMPRESSING LINUX", -- Thanks

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/28/2015 02:41 PM, EBo wrote: > Fair enough. I originally thought that maybe playing a > little with either the encoders or leadscrew/bearings, you > could get it to maybe 0.4mm, but with a closed source > machine without docs on how to tweak things at that level > (even if they allow

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/27/2015 11:37 PM, EBo wrote: > I was unaware that the AMT encoders had any lag problem. I > will need to look into that. I did a comparison of them, it should be searchable on the forums. I have some Halscope shots online comparing them to standard HEDS optical encoders. > I also did not

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-28 Thread EBo
On Dec 28 2015 12:58 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 12/27/2015 11:37 PM, EBo wrote: >> I was unaware that the AMT encoders had any lag problem. I >> will need to look into that. _ > I did a comparison of them, it should be searchable on the > forums. I have some Halscope shots online comparing them to

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread EBo
On Dec 27 2015 10:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 12/26/2015 07:59 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: >> Hello Jon, >> It is not a retrofit. MyData has used Linux since about 1993 on all >> of >> their machines, > > WOW, I'd never heard this! I did a little fact checking on the net and could not immediately

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/27/2015 02:35 PM, EBo wrote: > On Dec 27 2015 10:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > Hmm, that sounds really GOOD! I think my repeatability is > probably closer to .005" or so. Just BARELY good enough for > anything finer than SOIC lead pitch. > I think you can probably get much, much better than

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread EBo
On Dec 27 2015 4:17 PM, Ben Potter wrote: >> From: EBo [mailto:e...@sandien.com] >> On Dec 27 2015 10:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >> > On 12/26/2015 07:59 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: Hello Jon, It is not a retrofit. MyData has used Linux since about 1993 on all of their machines, >>>

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello EBo, My responses are included below. -Neil- On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, EBo wrote: > On Dec 27 2015 10:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 12/26/2015 07:59 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: > >> Hello Jon, > >> It is not a retrofit. MyData has used Linux since about 1993 on

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread EBo
On Dec 27 2015 8:50 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 12/27/2015 02:35 PM, EBo wrote: >> On Dec 27 2015 10:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >> Hmm, that sounds really GOOD! I think my repeatability is >> probably closer to .005" or so. Just BARELY good enough for >> anything finer than SOIC lead pitch. >> I

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread Ben Potter
> From: EBo [mailto:e...@sandien.com] > On Dec 27 2015 10:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 12/26/2015 07:59 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: >>> Hello Jon, >>> It is not a retrofit. MyData has used Linux since about 1993 on all >>> of their machines, >> >> WOW, I'd never heard this! > I did a little fact

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread EBo
On Dec 27 2015 10:14 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 12/27/2015 10:05 PM, EBo wrote: >> What is the stepcount on the encoders? If they are not >> wicked high, you might be able to replace them with one of >> the AMT capacitive encoders (which have a programmable >> resolution). That might get you up a

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/27/2015 10:05 PM, EBo wrote: > What is the stepcount on the encoders? If they are not > wicked high, you might be able to replace them with one of > the AMT capacitive encoders (which have a programmable > resolution). That might get you up a bit, but the wear > will have to be addressed

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread EBo
Neil, Fair enough either way. This should have been heralded as one of the early Linux industrial successes, and I had never heard of it. Wish I had before, and glad I know of it now. Thanks for the info! Even if it was from 1995/7 it is still be a great story,. EBo -- On Dec 27 2015

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello EBo, I am not sure how accurate that the time is in that article. I have a machine that is stamped with 1995, and I am quite sure it was shipped with Linux from the factory. I could also be be in error about 1993, it is why I said "about 1993" because I am not sure as to the exact date.

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-27 Thread EBo
On Dec 27 2015 11:04 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: > Hello EBo, > My responses are included below. > -Neil- > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, EBo wrote: > >> On Dec 27 2015 10:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >> > On 12/26/2015 07:59 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: >> >> Hello Jon, >> >> It is

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello EBo, I have never intended to be insulting or demanding in any of my posts. If it appears that way, I apologize. If you would like to point out what seems that way to you, I will re-phrase it so that it is not that way, and I will avoid using such wording in the future. I am working on

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello Chris, The reference to MyData is a pick and place machine that is used to assemble circuit boards. Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56hQ0oBJ4xk Those machines are about the best example I can think of for a well done application of Linux and robotics. TpSys (the software that runs

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread EBo
On Dec 25 2015 10:23 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: >> Can you explain exactly what you mean by embedded? >> i think you mean like a fanuc or tormach where you turn on the >> machine and >> that is all you can see. > > Yes, along those lines. The point is not so much that as it is > reliability. It

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 26 December 2015 03:50:00 EBo wrote: > On Dec 25 2015 7:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 25 December 2015 18:06:27 Jon Elson wrote: > >> On 12/25/2015 03:59 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > No white Christmas here, steady rain, long enough my > >> > basement floor is getting

[Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Juergen Gnoss
> SHELL=CLOCK.EXE was my favourite trick. You ended up with a full > Windows OS that could actually only tell the time. Doing things like that on unixoid OS's is not a big trick, it's just what they are made for. The windows system on a unixoid OS is just a server and you have to tell them

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread EBo
On Dec 25 2015 7:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 25 December 2015 18:06:27 Jon Elson wrote: > >> On 12/25/2015 03:59 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > No white Christmas here, steady rain, long enough my >> > basement floor is getting wet. Darnit! I need to deepen >> > the sump pump pit another

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread EBo
On Dec 25 2015 5:39 PM, Chris Morley wrote: >> >> kept it that way and did not upgrade. I will be interested to >> see > >> if >> >> Tormach will be any different >> >> >> >> >> . >> >>Are they going to use LCNC

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread EBo
On Dec 25 2015 10:06 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: > Hello Chris, > Yes, Ubuntu and most others will load up whatever you want on boot, > but > that is really not the point. The problem with nearly ANY release out > there > is that there is a TON of bloat. Take just the window manager alone, > most

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread andy pugh
On 25 December 2015 at 21:14, Jon Elson wrote: > I apologize in advance for stirring up a hornet's nest, but > a branch of the LinuxCNC project has been created called > machinekit. It is mostly aimed at the ARM processors such > as the Beagle Bone. I thought about

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread EBo
On Dec 26 2015 5:03 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: > Hello EBo, > My comments are in-line below... > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, EBo wrote: > >> Dear Neil, >> >> No worrier here. I was jut really trying to gauge if you were >> trying >> to be so or if I was just being overly

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello John, I apologize for sounding that way. The back story is that I have been using Linuxcnc/EMC for many years in a production environment. Actually, all of my shop equipment runs Linux, so I know (at least in my situation) what works and what does not. I have been seeing discussions about

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/26/2015 12:36 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: > Hello Chris, > The reference to MyData is a pick and place machine that is used to > assemble circuit boards. Check out > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56hQ0oBJ4xk Those machines are about the > best example I can think of for a well done

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello EBo, Yes, it helps. I will look into them. I have used EMC on PC104s in the past, but the ones I have used are just normal PC platform. They are way too expensive, and they are sometimes not as reliable as some commodity PC hardware. I have had better success with the VIA EPIA boards. The

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello EBo, The A20 board has a 3 volt lithium battery on it that will keep the CPU and memory alive for about 20 minutes. The software is setup to shutdown if power is absent for more than 3 minutes. This is really not required because the / filesystem is read only, and the read-write filesystem

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello EBo, My comments are in-line below... On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, EBo wrote: > Dear Neil, > > No worrier here. I was jut really trying to gauge if you were trying > to be so or if I was just being overly sensitive. I think it was the > latter, so think noting of

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread andy pugh
On 27 December 2015 at 01:20, Neil Whelchel wrote: > After reading my posts, I see the comment I made about the tool editor > looks bad. To clarify, I was asking for someone to explain the rationale > behind the way that it works if I was not understanding it properly. I

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread EBo
On Dec 26 2015 5:20 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: > ... > > Also, I might point out that the start of this conversation, I was > asking > if anyone else was working on heading in the embedded direction so I > could > share notes and assist them directly. If there is nobody doing this, > I > would be

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-26 Thread EBo
Dear Neil, No worrier here. I was jut really trying to gauge if you were trying to be so or if I was just being overly sensitive. I think it was the latter, so think noting of it. The folks here put a lot of sweat, tears, and occasionally even a little blood into their work. There is also

[Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello, One of the things that troubles me is that I am not seeing much work to make the Linuxcnc project feel like an embedded system. To me, it just seems quite unprofessional to have a desktop looking environment that is running in a milling machine. Is there some reason that someone (other than

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello Dave, Thank you for the input. I am not aware of many commercial grade machines that have "apps" to create G-code. I have carefully reviewed many controllers from many companies such as FANUC, Haas, Toshiba, DynaPath, DMG, and others, none of the controllers I have looked at use "apps", nor

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Dave Caroline
Are you forgetting the other apps people use on their machines to create the gcode. Not something I really want as a user Dave Caroline -- ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello Dave, I simply can not afford to have a machine idle while I use an "app" on it. If it is not running, it is not making money. If I am editing a program, someone else is using the machine to make things. There are plenty of small shops and "one man bands" that use a desktop computer for

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Sarah Armstrong
Neil , their are big people as you call it using linuxcnc , and their are some of us that cater for the Industrial user & big users . ( on a paid basis unfortunatly , i may add ) as reconfiguring or designing it's use for specific machines is no mean task , and yes if we can we do add it back

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 December 2015 04:09:23 Neil Whelchel wrote: > Hello, > One of the things that troubles me is that I am not seeing much work > to make the Linuxcnc project feel like an embedded system. > To me, it just seems quite unprofessional to have a desktop looking > environment that is running

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello Ken, I get that, I have already done a bunch of programming in this direction, the plan is to contribute it. The reason that I started this discussion is that I am wondering if anyone else is already barking up this tree that I can join forces with. At the moment, I have adopted Gmoccapy as

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Sarah Armstrong
As always Stuart hit the nail . totally agree , also people dont understand the many thousands of hours that it must be by now put in by all concerned , into producing what i concider to be an outstanding peice of software . in a lot of cases, as neil suggests as well as others , companys would

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 December 2015 12:13:06 Sarah Armstrong wrote: > As always Stuart hit the nail . > totally agree , also people dont understand the many thousands of > hours that it must be by now > put in by all concerned , into producing what i concider to be an > outstanding peice of software . > >

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 25 Dec 2015, at 12:22, Neil Whelchel wrote: > > It > needs a toy wrapper for hobbyists, and it needs a tool wrapper for people A typical "Touchy" setup looks a lot like you describe, if the OS can be persuaded to open it automatically and fullscreen it.

[Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Juergen Gnoss
> -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 04:22:39 -0800 > From: Neil Whelchel <neilwhelc...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded > To: EMC developers <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: >

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 December 2015 11:31:11 Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > I had a machine tool dealer/long time personal friend stop by last > week. I have known him since 1989. > He tried to hire me as his service department in 1993. > I have purchased three new machines and one used machine

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Sarah Armstrong
I'm Available ! ( glad this is not an open group Gene ) LOL I'd probably have a queue around the block . On 25 December 2015 at 18:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 25 December 2015 12:13:06 Sarah Armstrong wrote: > > > As always Stuart hit the nail . > > totally agree ,

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Dave Caroline
My main "app" is an editor I sit on the machine and edit the code to make the item, others use things such as dxf2gcode. I am one of many who are one man bands making stuff in various ways on various machines, three of mine are Linuxcnc, the hobbing machine has a screen to set up gear cutting,

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Kenneth Lerman
The "standard" answer is that if you want it to look more like a commercial CNC machine you can do that. It's simply a matter of programming.  I suggest that you start by defining the requirements. When I added o-words and named parameters to the interpreter I started by defining the

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I had a machine tool dealer/long time personal friend stop by last week. I have known him since 1989. He tried to hire me as his service department in 1993. I have purchased three new machines and one used machine from him but no machines since I started putting controls on old iron.

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Brian
I'll throw my hat in the ring for a more embedded, dedicated appearing/functioning interface. I think such an option would make LCNC a more viable option for real, commercial application. This could be anything from a configuration option or GUI, to a full blown dedicated kernel or anything

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello all, First of all, this is a really fantastic bunch of people here! I can't think of any other mail list where everyone that has replied so far makes sense and provides directly useful insight. I realize that maintaining an embedded OS is not easy, and expensive. I have been doing this since

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Sarah Armstrong
most of the tool requirements , i have in one form or another , but beware the tool list or database is one of the most complex and embedded part of linuxcnc and is not for the faint hearted . On 25 December 2015 at 21:07, Neil Whelchel wrote: > Hello Brian, > At the

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/25/2015 03:20 PM, Sarah Armstrong wrote: > Hi Jon , > > yes i'm aware of Machinekit , i do use it , but for industrial i dont think > it's got enough horsepower > and a more stable base is required , i believe to be long term stable for > industrial uses > Yes, this is a problem with PCs,

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread John Thornton
This would be a trivial task for any UI, overwrite the tool table from a database and reload the tool table. I might be interested in this part... JT On 12/25/2015 3:07 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote: > Another > very important thing is that there should be some sort of a toolset > database. The flat

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Chris Morley
> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 12:44:55 -0800 > From: neilwhelc...@gmail.com > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded > > Hello Sarah, > Much appreciated! I will start by sharing my thoughts and code. But it is > uncl

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Jon, you previously posted about repair using a material injected into cracks from inside. I had my basement repaired that way and the annoying trickle across the basement floor is now gone. Small flanged pipes were inserted along the crack and the epoxy-like material was injected at those

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread TJoseph Powderly
basement fix pix 500$ total, with guarantee since I'm in Thailand, and the crack is in Chicago, i think its a good investment tomp tjtr33 -- ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
> Can you explain exactly what you mean by embedded? > i think you mean like a fanuc or tormach where you turn on the machine and > that is all you can see. > > Yes, along those lines. The point is not so much that as it is reliability. It has to "just work", and it has to do so for people that

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Sarah Armstrong
yes you can do that , although i do it manually (good idea i'll add that ) it would help to keep the partfile & tools sync'd eitherway i.e import the gcode or part file from a dropdown and update the tools accordingly . it will work the same for solidcam too , On 25 December 2015 at 22:48, John

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/25/2015 04:17 PM, EBo wrote: > There have been a couple of commercial ventures which have invested in > LCNC. Or should I say used EMC/LCNC and once they got something stable, > kept it that way and did not upgrade. I will be interested to see if > Tormach will be any different >

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/25/2015 08:49 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > basement fix pix > 500$ total, with guarantee Yup, that looks similar to mine. It was about $90 including shipping the kit of stuff to me. Jon --

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Sarah Armstrong
Hi Jon , yes i'm aware of Machinekit , i do use it , but for industrial i dont think it's got enough horsepower and a more stable base is required , i believe to be long term stable for industrial uses On 25 December 2015 at 21:14, Jon Elson wrote: > I apologize in

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Chris Morley
> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 01:09:23 -0800 > From: neilwhelc...@gmail.com > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded > > Hello, > One of the things that troubles me is that I am not seeing much work to > make the Li

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 December 2015 19:22:18 Chris Morley wrote: > > Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 01:09:23 -0800 > > From: neilwhelc...@gmail.com > > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded > > > > Hello, > > On

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello Sarah, Much appreciated! I will start by sharing my thoughts and code. But it is unclear to me which approach is the best for everyone involved. As I mentioned before, I started with Gmoccapy. The more I think about it, the more I am thinking that it makes more sense to fork it as opposed to

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Sarah Armstrong
JT the problem is not in the database per se , but in keeping the database in sync i have it just about working , with a distributed server , linked into my camworks tooldatabase on a windows server across 7 machines . a little bit more testing , and see , the problem is it would need some

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread EBo
On Dec 25 2015 4:11 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 12/25/2015 04:17 PM, EBo wrote: >> There have been a couple of commercial ventures which have invested >> in >> LCNC. Or should I say used EMC/LCNC and once they got something >> stable, >> kept it that way and did not upgrade. I will be interested

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Chris Morley
> >> kept it that way and did not upgrade. I will be interested to see > >> if > >> Tormach will be any different > >> > >> . > >>Are they going to use LCNC and move on, or are they going to > >> seriously > >>

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello Chris, Yes, Ubuntu and most others will load up whatever you want on boot, but that is really not the point. The problem with nearly ANY release out there is that there is a TON of bloat. Take just the window manager alone, most of them use OpenGL to do fancy transitions, some window

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Sarah Armstrong
i'm happy to help Neil On 25 December 2015 at 20:00, Neil Whelchel wrote: > Hello all, > First of all, this is a really fantastic bunch of people here! I can't > think of any other mail list where everyone that has replied so far makes > sense and provides directly

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello Brian, At the moment, the interface, and some OS integration are the places that I feel need the most attention. The interface needs tools to mount external (USB) devices and manage files as well as make backups and control the OS (shutdown, reboot...). Another very important thing is that

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Kenneth Lerman
I would suggest that you try not to fork. I would add a variable to the .ini file "EMBEDDED=1" to set embedded mode and then have appropriate tests in the code. I might also consider having a second variable "DESKTOP=1" to set desktop mode. So every place that you are inclined to remove code

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/25/2015 03:59 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > No white Christmas here, steady rain, long enough my > basement floor is getting wet. Darnit! I need to deepen > the sump pump pit another 6 feet I guess. Or get a hoe in > here with a 15 foot arm and put in a french drain that deep. The glue job I

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/25/2015 08:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Looking at your place, it does look like a comfortable place, level > ground even. That sort of dirt starts at 100k an acre here in WV, with > nothing on it but a few scraggly trees. Or you spend it in diesel fuel > making it flat... Maybe more

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Chris Morley
> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 21:23:52 -0800 > From: neilwhelc...@gmail.com > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded > > > Can you explain exactly what you mean by embedded? > > i think you mean like a fanuc

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Dave Cole
On 12/25/2015 7:05 PM, EBo wrote: > On Dec 25 2015 4:11 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> On 12/25/2015 04:17 PM, EBo wrote: >>> There have been a couple of commercial ventures which have invested >>> in >>> LCNC. Or should I say used EMC/LCNC and once they got something >>> stable, >>> kept it that way

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 December 2015 21:49:42 TJoseph Powderly wrote: > basement fix pix > 500$ total, with guarantee > since I'm in Thailand, and the crack is in Chicago, > i think its a good investment > tomp tjtr33 Looks good from here, but what the heck are you doing on the far side of the big pond?

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
I apologize in advance for stirring up a hornet's nest, but a branch of the LinuxCNC project has been created called machinekit. It is mostly aimed at the ARM processors such as the Beagle Bone. it works quite well on the $55 Beagle Bone Black computer. You can attach an LCD screen

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 December 2015 13:32:22 Sarah Armstrong wrote: > I'm Available ! > ( glad this is not an open group Gene ) LOL > I'd probably have a queue around the block . Chuckle. I have mental picture that says anyone named Sarah, is a pretty lady indeed. But most of the guys I know who might

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread EBo
Looks like someone needs a happy-pill... How about the LCARS (of Star Trek fame) Home Automation interface ? Seriously though, Juergen Gnoss covered much of the important bits -- such as configurable UI's that can be as simple as 1 botton (C like)

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread John Thornton
Are you pulling the part files from the server too? Seems you could "send" both the part file and the tool table... just thinking out loud. JT On 12/25/2015 4:42 PM, Sarah Armstrong wrote: > JT > the problem is not in the database per se , but in keeping the database in > sync > i have it just

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 December 2015 18:06:27 Jon Elson wrote: > On 12/25/2015 03:59 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > No white Christmas here, steady rain, long enough my > > basement floor is getting wet. Darnit! I need to deepen > > the sump pump pit another 6 feet I guess. Or get a hoe in > > here with a 15

Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

2015-12-25 Thread Len Shelton
>> beware the tool list or database is one of the most complex and embedded part of linuxcnc Not if you actually understand coordinate systems - why and how to use them (math), tool length and diameter compensation - why and how to use them (math), and can read and edit text in a text editor.