Consider the environment: do you really need to print this e mail?
From: John Allen [mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com]
Sent: 19 February 2009 16:30
To: Barker, Neil
Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Environmental testing information
Did
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would seem to indicate that the series is used to define enviremental
test levels - correct ?
thanks much.
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Barker,
Neil
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:37 AM
To: John Allen
Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE
If the product is so small that it cannot accomodate a 5mm CE marking, then the
size may be reduced as long as it is clearly legible and not likely to be
confused with any other marking, or alternatively the marking may be applied to
the packaging and/or the documentation.
Best regards
Neil
Scott,
That is correct. EU Directives require transposition into the legislation of
the Member States, but EU Regulations have legal effect in their own rights.
Regulations are usually used to add detail to legislation that has already
been implemented in national law.
Neil Barker
Manager
David
There may be a number of reasons for this:-
1. To ensure that the disposal instructions can be understood in the countries
in which the product is marketed.
2. To include different contact details for the compliance schemes that the
manufacturer may belong in each of the different
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From: lauren_cr...@amat.com [mailto:lauren_cr...@amat.com]
Sent: 12 January 2009 17:52
To: Barker, Neil
Subject: RE: Lithium battery coin cell shipping restrictions
Neil,
Do you have a link you could share for Tadiran? I looked at their US website
Dan
For a coin cell, you are typically talking fractions of a gram, not grams. For
shipping purposes you can ship cells/batteries equivalent to 3 or 4 AA size
cells/batteries. Individual batteries only become a problem at C size and
above.
Some of the best information that I have found is on the
John
I would recommend that you start with IEC60721 Series and use that to define
your environment and from that derive your test regime. That standard allows
you to define the severity of each aspect of the environment rather than use a
single generic definition that may not be completely
David
If the reduced configuration does nothing that might make the EMC situation
worse (changes to enclosure apertures, substitution of different cables, etc)
then you should not need to do any additional testing, just seek a Notified
Body opinion on the changes to the build standard. It is up
Carl
Not necesarily. That would depend on how and what the equipment in which the
panel-mount device is installed is connected to. Anything pluggable could be
expected to be connected to a public low voltage distribution system. Also,
you could, for example, have a panel-mount device installed
William
I would expect that this standard is listed under the RTTE Directive, not the
EMC Directive, even though it is an EMC standard; it is primarily an RTTE
standard.
Neil Barker
Manager
Central Quality
e2v
106 Waterhouse Lane, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 2QU, England
Tel: +44
Mark
I think you are looking for the NSWC mechanical model for prediction. Most
of the proprietary software packages support this.
Best regards
Neil R. Barker CEng MIET HonFSEE MIEEE
Manager
Quality Engineering
e2v technologies (uk) ltd
106 Waterhouse Lane
Chelmsford
Essex CM1 2QU
UK
Luke
The important aspects of this is not the calibration of the compass, but
control of the aspects that could give rise to errors.
A compass is inherently accurate as the needle will always point to magnetic
N-S, and the issue is thus the resolution of the scale,which needs to be down
to
Peter
I'll decline to answer your question re lasers, as I am sure others are more
knowledgeable than I am.
In answer to your question about batteries, I answered a similar question last
week. The reply was:-
Lithium batteries may be shipped installed in product. The UN No. is 3091.
IATA
Brian
The critical factor for automotive electronics is whether or not they are
'immunity related'.
Any equipment that relates to control of the vehicle in any way; e.g. engine
management, braking system, steering, evn automatic screen wiper control, is
'immunity related'. If the equipment that
John
There are similarities, but they are not equivalents. I'll try to explain as
concisely as I can.
Class I is for gases, vapours or liquids, and consequently equates to a G
atmosphere under ATEX/IECEx
Class II is for dusts and equates to a D atmosphere under ATEX/IECEx
Class III is for
Sorry. I just spotted an error in my original post (isn't that always the way
!!)
In the paragraph relating to Gas groups, the first line should read 'Gas group
D equates to Group IIA (propane)'
Neil Barker
-Original Message-
From: Barker, Neil
Sent: 29 July
Also, all DEF STANs are available at http://www.dstan.mod.uk/
Neil Barker
Manager
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Isn't BS EN 50160:2000 inc Corrigenda 1, 2, and 3 now the definitive
document, although HD 472 S1 is referenced by that standard?
Neil Barker
Manager
Central Quality
e2v
106 Waterhouse Lane, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 2QU, England
Tel: +44 (0)1245 453616
Mobile: +44 (0)7801 723735
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Don
EU Directives require that records are kept for 10 years after cessation of
manufacture, so the total retention time depends on the production life of the
product. You might also want to build in some time for goods in the supply
chain if you distribute through either wholesale or retail
David
Unfortunately, I do not know of any comparison. However, the first reason why
you cannot use UL60950 for compliance with the LVD is that it is not an EN
standard, and also incorporates the US National Deviations, so is different in
some areas from the EN version. That said, if you
I'm afraid that I don't have a definitive answer, and look forward to
somebody else posting one.
However, my one observation is that the power tool may be used in the
workplace and is therefore subject to the jurisdiction of OSHA, whereas your
phone would not generally be classified as equipment
A co-axial feed-through capacitor is almost certainly the best (possibly the
only) solution here. The classic device is the 10uF 100A feed-through
manufactured by Solar that suits most of the defence standards, but if you
don't require such a high pass current, there are many good components
Strictly speaking, customs are not the enforcing authority for CE marking
and should not be looking for anything, although they may act as a first
line filter in some member states. The enforcing authorities in the UK, for
example, are a range of government agencies including Trading Standards,
Chris,
EN55103-1 is a product family standard, which takes precedence over generic
standards, and must therefore make reference to all Basic Standards that are
applicable to equipment within its scope. You will also find that
EN61000-3-2 is called up by the generic standards such as EN61000-6-3.
Ian,
Almost certainly a typo. I am fairly certain that they mean IEC60601-1.
The IEC and UL versions are very similar, but the UL version includes
national variations for the USA so these will need to be taken into account.
You will find the requirements of this standard more demanding than most
Having referred to the standard,
The keyway(s) have nothing to do with current rating. They relate to the
temperature rating of the connector.
10A connectors are rectangular with two bevelled corners only for standard
conditions. They have a single keyway on the longer side for 'hot'
conditions,
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Sent: 18 September 2003 16:25
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: IEC 60320 connector and cable
I read in !emc-pstc that Barker, Neil
neil.bar...@e2vtechnologies.com
wrote (in
4f826f960057d4118ec3009027e2453808a52...@whl17.e2v.uk) about
'IEC 60320 connector
Neil,
I think that you have already answered your own question.
The reason that a moulded power lead (cord) assembly is not dual certified
is because of the different cable specifications (not necessarily just the
insulation colours, but may include flammability ratings, and voltage
ratings),
Hi Alex,
In my view the dielectric strength test and insulation thickness are not
alternative solutions but must be met concurrently. I don't think that you
would get an accredited test house to concur with your solution, but it may be
worth asking the question. I have found that most test
Alex,
I have just taken one of our products along this route.
To answer your questions, yes you are right in your general
conclusion, but I would make the following comments;
1. While all these countries standards have CISPR 22 as their parentage,
it is best to make sure that your test house
Two other manufacturers of a loop sensor to this specification are
ETS-Lindgren (formerly EMCO), Model 7604, and Solar Electronics, Model
7334-1.
When I needed the same loop about a year ago, I was able to obtain one of
these ex-stock. Both are similarly priced.
I was also able to hire one from
Nick,
Sorry, I can't help as this standard is not in my subscription.
However, are you aware that EN50091-1 was superseded by EN 50091-1-1, which
remains current, but has itself been superseded by EN 62040-1-1:2003?
Best regards,
Neil R. Barker
Compliance Engineering Manager
e2v technologies
My understanding is that where there is a harmonised standard, but the
spectrum usage is not harmonised, then there is no need to involve a
Notified Body for any of the testing, but you do need a Spectrum Usage
Report from a Notified Body to ratify the intended usage of the device in
the target
If you go to the VCA website, you will find a whole load of downloadable
documents that cover most aspects.
Here is the link to that part of the website.
http://www.vca.gov.uk/vehicle/specific-publication.shtm
Best regards,
Neil R. Barker
Compliance Engineering Manager
e2v technologies ltd
I would agree with you. Providing that the CPD has been enacted in the law
of the Member State in which you wish to market your product, and that
appropriate routes to compliance are available, then it should be your
decision to take that route to market in preference to the former national
Nick,
I cannot give you a definitive answer, nor can I tell you where it is
written, but I believe that the critical aspect is whether or not the
equipment is or can be operated while the vehicle is in motion. In other
words, is the vehicle merely serving to transport the equipment from one
Bob,
The statements that you make are true.
The Directive only sets out minimum requirements. Any specific manufacturer
may require suppliers of sub-assemblies to meet some limit that exceeds
these minimum requirements. He is not obliged to accept any and all
sub-assemblies that meet the minimum
IEC215 is now known as IEC60215. It applies to radio transmitting equipment.
It is a harmonised standard and is listed under the RTTE Directive, Article
3(1)a.
In my opinion it is not a very good standard, and is insufficient on it's
own. You are unlikely to be able to issue a Declaration of
It could be an expensive exercise, but if you look at each of the national
adoptions of EN 60950 you should be able to make the same correlations as
with the French version.
Best regards,
Neil R. Barker
Compliance Engineering Manager
e2v technologies ltd
Waterhouse Lane
Chelmsford
Essex
CM1 2QU
Yes. In common parlance it is a ready made cable (as opposed to a cable
assembled in situ); e.g. a network cable, USB cable, printer cable, or any
other type of cable procured with connectors already assembled.
Best regards,
Neil R. Barker
Compliance Engineering Manager
e2v technologies ltd
John,
As I have already replied (but maybe got lost in some of the hit-and-miss
mail deliveries that others are complaining of) Blu-Tak is reported to work
well (it sticks, it comes off, it doesn't mark the product, it survives a
wide range of temperatures). It is used simply to hold the
I am told that Blu-Tak (you know, that non-sticky sticky stuff used to stick
up posters etc) works very well over a fairly wide range of temperatures
without marking the product. It is also quite a good thermal insulator,
which makes sure that the thermocouple sees the test item rather than the
David,
Although the technical requirements are somewhat similar, you should be
using EN 55103-1 EN 55103-2 for EMC as they are the product specific
standards for audio, video, and lighting control apparatus for professional
use. I would make sure that you meet these first. I don't agree with
Dear Group,
Can anybody help me identify any mandatory requirements for EMC and/or
product safety for Mexico?
Our product is a battery-powered thermal imaging camera for use by
firefighters. Some versions of the camera incorporate a wireless video link,
but that is not an immediate requirement
Chet,
The caps are in the panel mount connector.
These are isolated BNC connectors, where the body is plastic.
The caps are embodied within the plastic body and are chip
capacitors that lie between the outer 'tube' of the BNC and
a spring clip that stakes into the ground on your PCB and
also
I suggest that you refer to CISPR16 Clause 16. That specifies an OATS and
its acceptability criteria fully.
Best regards,
Neil R. Barker
Compliance Engineering Manager
Marconi Applied Technologies Ltd.
106 Waterhouse Lane
Chelmsford
Essex
CM1 2QU
U.K.
Tel: +44 (01245) 453616
Fax: +44 (01245)
Ken has provided a very complete and thorough explanation of the reasoning
behind the 100mOhm bond value. In low voltage systems, where current
carrying conductors are necessarily of high ampacity, you might want to
consider even lower values than 100 mOhms as the voltage drop under very
high
I would suggest that you will need to contact the manufacturers who may be
able to provide typical antenna factors.
However, at best these will just be close approximations to your actual
antennas. The only surefire answer is to have your antennas calibrated. I
know that this can be costly, but
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