[PSES] Identifying a Product of Multiple Components

2019-02-22 Thread Kunde, Brian
Please help me to understand the “Marking” of equipment requirements for systems made up of multiple components. I’m going to cross categories for the purpose of the examples, so don’t get confused by that. Example 1: I buy a PC. It comes in a large box. Inside I get a PC tower, mouse,

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
I've never understood why some people think that the solution to people not following the rules can be solved by creating more rules. Studies have shown the the vast majority of non-compliances are lack of understanding low risk rules and not anything that would really hurt someone. They put

Re: [PSES] A question about FDA language and interlocking devices

2019-02-05 Thread Kunde, Brian
Doug, These type of interlock switches are new to me. They are used in industrial applications where they protect the user from a very hazardous condition. These switches usually have what is called a Positive Mechanical Action or Certified Direct Opening mechanism which forces a Normally

Re: [PSES] Economical operator name & postal address on EEEproducts

2019-02-05 Thread Kunde, Brian
: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 4:44 AM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [BULK] [PSES] Economical operator name & postal address on EEEproducts Importance: Low Dear Brian, Thanks for your useful info! Must the responsible person be in EU/EEA countries? Other

Re: [PSES] [BULK] [PSES] Economical operator name & postal address on EEE products

2019-02-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
Scott, The short answer to your question is, the name and address of the responsible party for placing a product on the EU market is required to be on the products. EU documents often refer to the responsible party as the “Manufacturer” even though the responsible party may not have

[PSES] Source for Nameplate Rating Nomenclature

2019-01-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
What is the Source Document for the Nameplate Voltage, Current, etc. Rating Nomenclature (if there is one)? Examples one might find on a typical electronic equipment; 115/230V~ 50/60Hz 8/4A 100-120/220-240V~ 50/60Hz 8/4A We try to match this information in our User's Manual. However, our

[PSES] CISPR11 Rad Magnetic Field Emissions Limits

2019-01-17 Thread Kunde, Brian
Reference CISPR11/EN55011:2016 version. If you are an expert at the Radiated Emissions test from 150Khz -30Mhz for Class A Group 2 equipment, I could really use your help. I haven't done this test in over 25 years. I refurbished our Active Loop antenna and placed it 10 meters from the EUT. I

Re: [PSES] EU representative after Brexit

2019-01-11 Thread Kunde, Brian
Under the Machinery Directive, the manufacturer must have someone within the EU who is authorized to compile the Technical File. If that person is in the UK, I assume you will have to find someone else. Is that correct? Brian Kunde Manager • Compliance Engineering LECO Corp • Compliance

Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Testing Single plug vs. multiple plug system

2019-01-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
not be practical for all products and markets but for some this is mandatory. Something to think about. Good topic. The Other Brian From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 10:04 AM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: IEC 61000-4

[PSES] Inverters Required on large motors??

2018-12-05 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greetings. Is it a requirement in Canada, or any other country, to which industrial machines with large AC motors (such as 25hp) must be soft started using a Frequency Drive/Inverter? If this is true, where do I find this ruling? Electric Code?? I have heard rumor of this in the past. And

Re: [PSES] CE non-conformity statistics

2018-11-05 Thread Kunde, Brian
OO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk<http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-11-02 20:38, Kunde, Brian wrote: John, I love your example of the Power Supply. In this case, a “standard” says one thing, but the manufacturer did it a different

Re: [PSES] CE non-conformity statistics

2018-11-02 Thread Kunde, Brian
To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE non-conformity statistics A typical technical non-compliance is incorrect marking of power supply data. Different standards have different requirements, and it's easy to mistakenly state, for example, the supply current when

Re: [PSES] CE non-conformity statistics

2018-11-02 Thread Kunde, Brian
Ok, I’ll pile on. I have never been involved in a market surveillance inspection so I really have no right to comment, but I am trying to understand what constitutes itself as a Technical Non-Compliance. Many of my products get inspected post-sale at our customer sites by third-party labs or

Re: [PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility

2018-10-23 Thread Kunde, Brian
We use our 8546A receiver every day and love it. It is still one of the best frequency domain receivers around. We use AcuCal (recently acquired by Trescal) who has mobile labs that travel all over the Americas. They back right up to our lab door, we hand carry our receiver to their 5th

[PSES] Recommondations for Test Equipment

2018-09-12 Thread Kunde, Brian
Please send replies directly to me if this is a group violation. In our Safety lab, we do input current tests. We currently use two handheld meters; one showing Voltage and the other Current via a current clamp. We want to replace these two meters with a single piece of test equipment that

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Kunde, Brian
The power supply is NRTL certified and the battery is NRTL certified. The rest of the tablet I assume is limited energy circuit. Does the tablet require NRTL certification? Brian Kunde Manager • Compliance Engineering LECO Corp • Compliance Testing Center From: Carl Newton

Re: [PSES] Safety Test Templates Question

2018-08-02 Thread Kunde, Brian
I have seen many reports from Field Evaluations where the inspector could not determine if a section was a pass or fail, so it was marked down as a FAIL or Non-Compliance. Just because they do not have the equipment in the field to make the determination, they put it down as a Non-Compliance

[PSES] Customer Requests for Risk Assessments

2018-05-17 Thread Kunde, Brian
Our company makes Laboratory Equipment (test and measurement analyzers). Our company performs a Risk Assessment early in the development stage of all new products as so suggested by such documents. We generally use the EN ISO 12100. Creating this document highlights the possible sources of

Re: [PSES] Mains Conducted rf emissions measurements

2018-04-26 Thread Kunde, Brian
[mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:24 AM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Mains Conducted rf emissions measurements Hello Brian. Yes, I have 2 bulkhead mounted filters; one for the screened room & one for the control room. However; I t

Re: [PSES] Mains Conducted rf emissions measurements

2018-04-26 Thread Kunde, Brian
Ian, Does your screen room have massive line filters on the AC mains coming in? This would be a requirement I believe. Brian From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:08 AM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Mains

Re: [PSES] Mains Conducted rf emissions measurements

2018-04-26 Thread Kunde, Brian
Ian, First, are you sure the noise if coming from your AC Mains? If you are using line filters, you need to get some kick butt filters that will give you good attenuation down to at least 10khz. Second, are you sure the signals you are seeing between 150kHz and 400kHz are real? Zero in on

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] Need a switch

2018-04-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
I'm picturing a huge knife switch from a Frankenstein movie I saw as a kid. The Other Brian From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 11:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [BULK] Re: [PSES] Need a switch Importance: Low Hi Ken: I interpret your

Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE

2018-02-01 Thread Kunde, Brian
ope, a cut-off saw is a 'machine', so the Machinery Directive applies. This influences which safety standard is permitted to be applied to the product. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk<http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-01-31 18:38,

Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE

2018-02-01 Thread Kunde, Brian
oes “transportable” mean? I always thought it meant tools that are used on the move, but I cannot image using a table saw while it is moving. Thanks, The Other Brian From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:37 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG&

Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE

2018-01-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
john.uk<http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-01-31 18:38, Kunde, Brian wrote: Most interesting. Thanks. From: msherma...@comcast.net<mailto:msherma...@comcast.net> [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:27 PM To: Kunde, Brian Cc: EMC-PSTC Subject: [BULK]

Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE

2018-01-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
Most interesting. Thanks. From: msherma...@comcast.net [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:27 PM To: Kunde, Brian Cc: EMC-PSTC Subject: [BULK] Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE Importance: Low IEC TC 116 in in the process of folding the 60745-1 (hand held motor operated

Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE

2018-01-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
probably not considered portable (depending on your definition). Do you know if there are similar requirements for non-hand-held electric saws/tools? Thanks, The Other Brian From: msherma...@comcast.net [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:29 PM To: Kunde, Brian Cc

Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE

2018-01-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
. Thanks, Brian From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:13 AM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE You can rely on the recent post in this thread by Pete Perkins. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M

Re: [PSES] GFCI vs GFPE

2018-01-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woodjohn.uk=02%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C332841906ad44ef66eaa08d5683526de%7Cee3303d7fb734b0c8589bcd847f1c277%7C1%7C0%7C636529499853637893=hM9ZJbor9gxzRIIwUYV0KkogbsHqlWIDv%2BCi2VRAr5I%3D=0 Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-01-30 22:03, Kunde, Brian

[PSES] GFCI vs GFPE

2018-01-30 Thread Kunde, Brian
I’ve recently come to understand that the 30mA Ground-Fault protectors, often built into a circuit breaker, is intended to protect the Protective Earth (Safety Ground) circuit in the case of a short circuit (opening the circuit before the safety ground could be damaged. It this correct? Here

[PSES] CI Software Flicker/Harmonics

2017-12-20 Thread Kunde, Brian
It will be difficult for me to ask what I want without insulting California Instruments (Emetek), so I apologize in advance if I fail. For those of you who owns a CI CTS Series for doing Harmonic and Flicker emissions testing, you can sympathize. Our CTS system is currently running off of a

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Kunde, Brian
UL does not have a sense of humor that we are aware of. TOB From: Jon Keeble [mailto:j...@wattwatchers.com.au] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 4:45 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating We are getting a somewhat innovative product through UL at the moment. So

Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia

2017-12-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
obtain a 2nd EAC cert from a Russian lab so that this company could resume their exports to Russia. The big-name labs with global market access groups that I spoke with are aware of this. This was the status as of mid-summer. Best regards, Carl On 11/29/2017 2:25 PM, Kunde, Brian wrote: Greetin

[PSES] EAC Mark in Russia

2017-11-29 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greetings. I would love to hear your story about dealing with the EAC mark and shipping products to Russia. Though most all countries have laws, acts, or directives on the books, most are not enforced across the board, yet focuses primarily on mass produced consumer electronics, computers,

Re: [PSES] Use of LED Spots in EMC Chambers [General Use]

2017-11-22 Thread Kunde, Brian
We just had our metal halide light fixtures replaced with LED fixtures in our large 10 meter Semi Anechoic Chamber and they are GREAT!!! I have requested the Make and Model Number information from our Maintenance Department which I'll pass on when I get it. This is a holiday weekend for us so

Re: [PSES] NEMA 5-20P with IEC 60320 C13

2017-10-11 Thread Kunde, Brian
dedicated circuits, but that is how the rules read in the NEC 210.23(C). Unless I’m missing something. Thanks bunches. The Other Brian From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 2:57 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] NEMA 5-20P

Re: [PSES] NEMA 5-20P with IEC 60320 C13

2017-10-11 Thread Kunde, Brian
rote: The NEC (NFPA 70) talks about “continuous currents” and when to apply the all-too-familiar 125% rule. Canadian Electric Code (CSA part I) has same requirement. The IEC seems to have avoided it. Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric D 604-422-2622

Re: [PSES] NEMA 5-20P with IEC 60320 C13

2017-10-11 Thread Kunde, Brian
seems to have avoided it. Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric D 604-422-2622 From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 8:31 AM To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] NEMA 5-20P with IEC 60320 C13 It is my

Re: [PSES] NEMA 5-20P with IEC 60320 C13

2017-10-09 Thread Kunde, Brian
dustries, you can find some strange combinations of plugs and receptacles. http://www.marinco.com/en/s15-504 Ted Eckert Microsoft Corporation The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, Oc

[PSES] NEMA 5-20P with IEC 60320 C13

2017-10-09 Thread Kunde, Brian
It is my understanding that according to the US National Electric Code, 15 amp receptacle are derated to 12 amps max., and 20 amp receptacles are derated to 16 amps. IEC 60320 C13 connectors are rated 15 amps in North America. Do I derate them as well or can I draw 15 amps continuous from the

[PSES] Class A Group 2 Registration??

2017-09-22 Thread Kunde, Brian
Our company makes an instrument that has uses an RF Isolator Power Amp and induction coil to heat up a small metal sample for analysis purposes (Lab Equipment). By definition within the IEC/EN 55011 standard, this equipment would be classified as Class A Group 2. (hang in there; it’ll get more

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency approvals

2017-09-22 Thread Kunde, Brian
Brian From: Regan Arndt [mailto:reganar...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:48 AM To: Kunde, Brian Cc: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: [BULK] Re: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency approvals Importance: Low Thanks Brian. That's great you do this. Can you share

Re: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency approvals

2017-09-22 Thread Kunde, Brian
We address this possible issue in two ways. 1. We list the certification markings that are on Safety Critical Components on our purchase print as “incoming inspection requirements”. When parts are received, our IQA department visually verifies that the certification markings on the

Re: [PSES] power strip details

2017-09-15 Thread Kunde, Brian
it is better than nothing. The built in surge suppression in your $3000 computer will easily protect your $5 power strip. But your computer may not survive more than one hit. The Other Brian From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:10 AM To: Kunde, Brian

Re: [PSES] power strip details

2017-09-15 Thread Kunde, Brian
This is slightly off topic but you might find this interesting. People are too smart for their own good. When Yanks travel to Europe, they bring along their phone chargers, computer chargers, notepad chargers, razer chargers, etc., all of which will operate at either 115Vac or 230Vac these

Re: [PSES] Another benefit of Time Domain EMI receivers

2017-08-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
Have you ever priced out one of these? Ouch!! The Other Brian From: Rob Oglesbee [mailto:rogles...@radianresearch.com] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 12:25 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Another benefit of Time Domain EMI receivers I've had experience with them at a

[PSES] 230V 3-phase in Europe

2017-08-07 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greetings. Sorry if this is a stupid question (I’ve asked more than I’m allowed, I’m sure), but in Europe, is there 230 volt 3-phase (230 volt line to line)? I thought 230 volt single phase was derived from 380V 3-phase (230V from Line to Neutral). I see a 230V 3-phase saw with a CE marking

Re: [PSES] Quasipeak definition

2017-07-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
I have a Classic 1948 John Deere "M" tractor. I cannot measure the battery voltage (to see if the generator is charging the battery) while the engine is running because the emissions from the ignition is so bad it causes by DMM to malfunction. The Other Brian From: Nyffenegger, Dave

Re: [PSES] CE Compliance [General Use]

2017-06-21 Thread Kunde, Brian
[mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:47 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] CE Compliance [General Use] >“but can lead to”, means it does not have to lead to, otherwise it would say, >“but must lead to”. I think it would say “Shal

Re: [PSES] FCC part 18

2017-06-01 Thread Kunde, Brian
Because terminology gets tossed around by different organizations, standards, directives, etc., without clear definition, let me see if I understand this correctly. First of all, the FCC statement identifies a type of product; in this case "Test Equipment". This can be anything that tests or

Re: [PSES] Voltage Rating vs Voltage Specification

2017-04-12 Thread Kunde, Brian
the first minute of operation. Crazy man. Thanks for all the good information. Most helpful and informative discussion. The Other Brian From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 2:10 PM To: Kunde, Brian Cc: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: [PSES] Voltage Rating vs Voltage

Re: [PSES] Voltage Rating vs Voltage Specification

2017-04-10 Thread Kunde, Brian
Is something like this allowed? 100-115-120/208-220-230-240 Will a ±10% tolerance always be assumed? If your tolerance was something different, such as -15%/+10%, does this information have to be on the device or is the manual good enough? The Other Brian -Original Message- From:

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
t: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:09 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines The preceding may not have completely addressed the question. You are probably looking to identify what standards to apply while designing the product before

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
at type of construction (aside from tradition). It's like asking why every facilities engineer has a large keyring, a pocket protector containing no less than three writing instruments, and a AA mini Maglite on their belt. On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Kunde, Brian <brian_ku...@lecotc.com> wro

[PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
I notice that most industrial factory machinery is designed with a large metal electronic box with a hinged door and some kind of keyed lock. Inside the components are DIN mounted and the wiring is all dressed very neatly in these gray plastic cable runs with snap-on lids. Every wire is labeled

Re: [PSES] MD vs LVD for Laboratory Equipment

2017-03-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
I’ve said this before, but laboratory equipment is the Redheaded Stepchild of Regulatory Compliance. It’s like the powers-to-be didn’t know what to do with us so the latest move was to toss us in the mix with Industrial Machinery. But the MD is not a good marriage. Our users are not the same.

Re: [PSES] MD vs LVD for Laboratory Equipment

2017-03-30 Thread Kunde, Brian
...@globalnorm.de [mailto:loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:23 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: AW: [PSES] MD vs LVD for Laboratory Equipment Second comment: on 8th of May, 2017 I have a meeting with the responsible market surveillance authority

[PSES] MD vs LVD for Laboratory Equipment

2017-03-30 Thread Kunde, Brian
Sorry to say, this issue has once again reared its ugly head. I appreciate any and all input. History: For many many years, laboratory equipment fell under the Low Voltage Directive (LVD), even products with moving parts. It was specifically excluded from the Machinery Directive (MD). The

[PSES] Moter Overload Protection with Supplemental Protector

2017-03-10 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greetings experts. This question applies to both North America rules (NEC) keeping in mind the rest of the world including Europe BUT my example will be for a 115Vac 60hz device. My example product is used in the Workplace but not typically in an industrial environment (if that matters). It's

[PSES] Authorised Representative in EU

2017-02-02 Thread Kunde, Brian
A quick question. A manufacturer established outside the EU placing product on the market in the EU can but does not have to have an authorized representative within the EU.? Is this a correct statement? AND; The Machinery Directive requires the name and address of the person authorized to

[PSES] Fittings for Fiberglass Tubing

2017-01-16 Thread Kunde, Brian
Antenna Masts, RF Tables, and many other such products used for EMC Testing is commonly made from that Green Structural Fiberglass Square Tubing. I can find sources to buy the tubing itself (I'm using the 2 inch OD material with 1/4 inch thick walls) but I cannot find any company that makes

Re: [PSES] ROHS vs. Safety critical products (SIL, etc)

2017-01-16 Thread Kunde, Brian
Amund, I don't think you can apply Exemptions to the RoHS directive across the definition of "Safety Critical Products" unless your product clearly falls within the exempt equipment called out in Article 2 paragraph 4. Parts of your product or components can fall under numerous exemptions

Re: [PSES] EM Severity Levels

2016-12-21 Thread Kunde, Brian
Doug, Sounds like there is a piece of the puzzle missing. For instance, the EN 61326-1 calls out Surge Immunity according to IEC61000-4-5 Level 3. The IEC 61000-4-5 calls out Level 3 to be 2KV. So unless your first standard calls out the Basic standard then you would not know what “Level 3 “

Re: [PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17

2016-12-20 Thread Kunde, Brian
Why Re-invent the wheel? Why not just buy an ESD Gun/Generator and be done with it? The Other Brian From: Li Di [mailto:li...@conorthtech.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Questions on ESD testing for ECSS-E-ST-20-07C-Rev17 Hi Dear.

[PSES] Positive Mechanical Action Interlock Switches

2016-12-13 Thread Kunde, Brian
Experts, I have seen Interlock circuits using "interlock switches" (as specified by their manufacture), on doors, panels, and guards with hazards behind them that were NOT "Positive Mechanical Action" (PMA) switches. (Also known as Direct Contact, Forced Break, Direct opening action, Positive

[PSES] Placing on the Market

2016-12-07 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greetings Experts. I'm really really really sorry to ask this question, but I must know without a doubt of how the EU law interprets "Placing on the Market". Yes, I have read many documents, websites, and guides. I thought I had a good understanding of this but I am not confident to the point

Re: [PSES] Internal point of coupling

2016-11-18 Thread Kunde, Brian
in Europe than North America; but I may be wrong. Thanks again for the ed-u-ma-cation. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:49 AM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Internal poi

Re: [PSES] Internal point of coupling

2016-11-18 Thread Kunde, Brian
This thread has tickled my interest. I have never heard of the term IPC used in this way nor do I understand the definition. Can someone provide context and give an example of how it would be used? When the definition refers to "network", is this the AC Mains network? And why is the Point of

Re: [PSES] Bulk Current Injection

2016-11-10 Thread Kunde, Brian
Three things to keep in mind with the 61000-4-6 Conducted Immunity test when using clamps; 1. There two types of clamps; The Current Clamp which must be grounded via the BNC connector and a short strap to the Reference Ground Plane, and The EM clamp which most commercially available

Re: [PSES] [BULK] RE: [PSES] AC Mains Outlet fuses or daul pole breaker??

2016-11-07 Thread Kunde, Brian
. This has been our company's practice for over 20 years but I wasn't sure where the concern came from. Now I have a better understanding. Thanks again. The Other Brian From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:59 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Where have the leak proof batteries gone ?

2016-11-07 Thread Kunde, Brian
I know what you mean. In those aluminum case flashlights (Maglite type) when the batteries go bad not only do they leak but Puff Up (enlarge in size). Then it becomes nearly impossible to remove the batteries without destroying the entire flashlight. The flashlights with the AA size batteries

[PSES] AC Mains Outlet fuses or daul pole breaker??

2016-11-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greetings Experts. If we send 230Vrms out of a product to power an external device through an IEC Outlet connector and we need to provide Overcurrent Protection for this port internal to our device, can I use two fuses or do I have to use a double pole circuit breaker? Since our product can

Re: [PSES] Authorised Representative

2016-11-01 Thread Kunde, Brian
John, In reference to what? The name and address displayed on the EE?, the responsible party within the EU?, information appearing on the DoC? I've always understood that an Authorized Representative within the EU was required for manufacturers outside the EU; and I thought this was a

Re: [PSES] Low current Transformer OC Protection

2016-10-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
be nice if the manufacturer would provide information on how to properly protect this device. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brian From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 12:54 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Low current

[PSES] Low current Transformer OC Protection

2016-10-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greeting Experts. I often run into issues with safety inspectors during Field Evaluations regarding overcurrent protection of small transformers that are not thermally protected. These small transformers can draw such small amounts of current on both the primary and secondary, that finding a

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-27 Thread Kunde, Brian
: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:39 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries Dear experts, Can AC brushless motors (in this case 230V~ 3-phase 3hp motors) that are rated "60HZ" be used in prod

[PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Kunde, Brian
Dear experts, Can AC brushless motors (in this case 230V~ 3-phase 3hp motors) that are rated "60HZ" be used in products going to countries that have 50HZ power? I believe the motors will run a little slower which will not affect the function of the product, but is there a safety issue with

Re: [PSES] Connection to ac mains with split end line cord

2016-09-20 Thread Kunde, Brian
This is a question that goes back to the beginning of time; or at least the 35 years I’ve been on the job. And I’ve never heard a good reason for either side of the argument. You don’t want unqualified people trying to wire a Plug onto a power cord and you don’t want to ship a plug that will

[PSES] Risk Assessment of Air Filter

2016-09-19 Thread Kunde, Brian
I seek advice and opinions from fellow safety minded people. Our typical product has a metal chassis which is constructed as a Fire Enclosure (laboratory equipment 61010-1). On the back is a cutout for a cooling fan/blower mounted in the cutout. The fan is 24Vdc, certified by several safety

Re: [PSES] ant control

2016-09-19 Thread Kunde, Brian
Boric Acid is also very deadly to bees. In fact, bees can take the powder back to the hive in which it can kill off in just a few days. Most anything that is going to kill an ant is also going to kill bees and other insects. That’s why they prefer you use ant bait in little cans with holes in

Re: [PSES] Fire ants

2016-09-16 Thread Kunde, Brian
I believe it is Boric acid you want; not Borax, which is a salt of Boric Acid. I learned years ago that there are two types of ants; some like sweet, some like fat. So I made two different mixtures. One with boric acid and powdered sugar and the other with boric acid and bacon grease. I put the

Re: [PSES] Ball pressure test of thermoplastic parts

2016-08-24 Thread Kunde, Brian
I assumed it had something to do with the old Wall Warts that was basically a transformer. In an overload condition, these transformers can reach temperatures exceeding 100ºC. You don’t want the plastic case to soften, warp, or open up and expose hazardous voltages, or worst. The Other Brian

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] Fire requirements in standards

2016-06-29 Thread Kunde, Brian
Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 11:32 AM To: Kunde, Brian Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [BULK] Re: [PSES] Fire requirements in standards Importance: Low Hi Brian; Do you mean specifically the changes to the fire enclosure requirements or the overall

Re: [PSES] Fire requirements in standards

2016-06-29 Thread Kunde, Brian
This subject is very interesting to me. If I wanted to know more, is getting a copy of 62368-1 worth reading or will I have to wait for the proposed changes to 60950-1 to come out, or what do you recommend? Are the proposed changes quite large or can they be summarized? What are the weak areas

Re: [PSES] EMO vs EPO

2016-06-27 Thread Kunde, Brian
When I was in High School Shop Class, there were electrical boxes hanging from cords down from the ceiling all around the room with large red buttons. Pressing any of these buttons would turn power off to every piece of machinery and to all work benches in the room (lights would stay on). That

Re: [PSES] FCC Part 15 vs 18

2016-06-27 Thread Kunde, Brian
-Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:39 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC Part 15 vs 18 How different are the requirements? Can you economically comply with both, so you can stop worrying

[PSES] FCC Part 15 vs 18

2016-06-24 Thread Kunde, Brian
This has always confused me. My company makes Laboratory Equipment (Analytical Test Equipment) which we have always categorized as ISM Equipment (Industrial, Scientific, Medical). But both FCC Part 15 and 18 references ISM equipment. By nature of what our products are or the category of

Re: [PSES] insulated wires

2016-06-24 Thread Kunde, Brian
Rich, Can you test to determine the rating of a conductor, connector, contact, etc. within our application? I once had a connector we wanted to use in a fairly high current application. The connector manufacture didn't specify a total current rating on the connector but a rating on a single

Re: [PSES] insulated wires

2016-06-23 Thread Kunde, Brian
Try the US National Electric Code table 310-17 for single conductor insulated wire in free air at 30ºC ambient (hook up wire). Keep in mind that you have to de-rate the values in this chart for bundling (NEC table 310-15-(b)(2)(a)) and temperatures (NEC table 690-31(c))above 30ºC. The Other

[PSES] US Source for "RCM" Labels

2016-06-20 Thread Kunde, Brian
Can anyone give me a label source in North America for the ACMA Regulatory Compliance Mark "RCM" label? I assumed by now the new symbol/label would be a common thing and I could buy it over the counter. Our normal sources for such labels want to do it as a custom label at 10 times the cost.

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

2016-06-09 Thread Kunde, Brian
Ralph, This might be true but that is not how we saw it way back when. The 240VA "Energy Hazard" was not a consideration for the protection against Fire but a limit value for accessible parts by the User. We still today consider accessible circuits, regardless of the voltage, to be "Hazardous

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

2016-06-08 Thread Kunde, Brian
Back in my computer days, IEC 950 clause 1.2.8.7 defined a "Hazardous Energy Level" as "A stored energy level of 20 J or more, or an available continuous power level of 240 VA or more, at a potential of 2 V or more." Ever since, we refer to 240VA or more as an "Energy Hazard" and take that into

[PSES] EU RoHS Exempt Components

2016-05-12 Thread Kunde, Brian
I have a EU RoHS compliant product but it contains a component that is RoHS Compliant under one of the Exemptions found in Annex III of 2011/65/EU. Am I required to Declare this Exemption somehow to the public, on the DoC, in our Manual, or only document this information in our Technical File?

Re: [PSES] NFC Near Field Communication Devices

2016-05-05 Thread Kunde, Brian
Thanks to everyone who replied. The Other Brian From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 10:06 AM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] NFC Near Field Communication Devices Hi Brian, Which geographical region are you interested

[PSES] NFC Near Field Communication Devices

2016-05-04 Thread Kunde, Brian
What can you tell a newb like me about NFC? It operates in the ISM frequency of 13.56Mhz. If we incorporate it into a product, does it require testing by a certified or accredited lab? It is globally accepted without licenses and certifications? Thanks, The Other Brian

Re: [PSES] Pre-Amp mounted to antenna

2016-03-19 Thread Kunde, Brian
From: Cortland Richmond [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:24 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pre-Amp mounted to antenna On 3/16/2016 1:16 PM, Kunde, Brian wrote: > We currently have a 22dB pre-amp which is fine for class A levels but > a close to

Re: [PSES] Pre-Amp mounted to antenna

2016-03-19 Thread Kunde, Brian
[mailto:charles.gra...@echostar.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:47 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Pre-Amp mounted to antenna What antenna are you using? The gain you are seeking seems a little low.. Best Regards Charles Grasso Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications (w

[PSES] Pre-Amp mounted to antenna

2016-03-15 Thread Kunde, Brian
Greetings. I'm looking for a low noise Pre-Amp for Radiated Emissions 30Mhz to 1Ghz (or higher) with a gain of 20-30dB; but here's the catch. I want it to mount directly to the "N" connector on my BiLog Antenna and be powered by a downstream Power Supply box that sends DC down the coax. Just

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
Keep this in mind. The US NEC allows power cords to be made from 18AWG wire even though they can be plugged into a 20 amp circuit. Protective bonding Test at 40 amps for 4 minutes will melt the insulation of 18AWG wire. Even internal 18AWG hookup wire used as the Protective bonding conductor

Re: [PSES] Source for Quality Video Cables

2016-03-02 Thread Kunde, Brian
A quick trip in the "Way Back" machine brings me back to the early PC days. To get parallel printers to pass the FCC class B requirements we had to use a very expensive cable purchased directly from IBM which had double shielded cable and heavy metal back shells. The cost was something like $50

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