Don't use refill kits for your inkjet printers and need old part

2004-05-30 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Group, For the first time ever, in an attempt to economize, I used a black ink refill kit to refill my HP Deskjet 500 inkjet cartridge. Followed directions, a bit messy, no dripping, printer worked great to run some emergency

RE: First 10 standards published under GPSD + measuring instruments directive

2004-05-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Phone : +31 10 415 24 26 Fax :+31 10 415 49 53 == FW-Original Message- FWFrom: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc- FWp...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of am...@westin-emission.no FWSent: zaterdag 29 mei 2004 21:53

SV: First 10 standards published under GPSD + measuring instruments directive

2004-05-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ such as balances for commercial purposes, taximeters, gas meters etc. Taximeters ... isn't that Automotive directive 95/54/EC? Best regars Amund Westin, Oslo / Norway -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p

First 10 standards published under GPSD + measuring instruments directive

2004-05-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Hello EMC/PSTC friends world wide, I remember having read a few discussions last 12 months about the General Product Safety Directive (DIR 2001/95/EC) Recently (april 24th), the EC has published it's first list of 10

Re: 61000-3-2 Power Calculation

2004-05-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Jon Francis jfran...@voltech.co.uk wrote (in 5BC8A2628BC2EB4081CA71B2 d6717d3a05e...@voltech-uk.voltech.co.uk) about '61000-3-2 Power Calculation', on Fri, 28 May 2004: http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium

Re: Active components bridging HV and SELV

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Across the secondary winding of a DC/DC converter transformer powering an un-earthed SELV load, we have a 75V peak 350KHz square wave at 75VDC input. One side of the winding is connected to the un-earthed SELV ground

Re: EU cordsets

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Bill, If your power supply is double insulated (two-wire, no ground) you should be able to get away with two cordsets for the European Union (EU): * A BS 1363 plug for the United Kingdom. * A CEE7 XVI(2) or CEE7 XVII Europlug

RE: CE Mark on components

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
to show proof of need. Have a great weekend, -doug Douglas E. Powell, Staff Engineer Corporate Compliance Dept. Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins, CO 80525 USA From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of drcuthb...@micron.com Sent

RE: Pollution degrees EN60950

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- I have a few minutes until my test unit ends with a glorious death... Source: Conformity Magazine The majority of internal office use equipment is given the classification of

RE: Pollution degrees EN60950

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Eric, While Pollution Degrees and IP ratings cannot be directly correlated, I would suggest that Pollution Degree 2 could apply up to and including IP54, but obviously depends on the intended use environment. Above IP54 you

Pollution degrees EN60950

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ ericm...@napit.in fo To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: 05/28/2004 06:23

Re: EU cordsets

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Hello Bill, To my knowledge, most companies arrange for their local reps in each country (or their distributors) to add the appropriate cord for the country of interest (be certain you identify/specify a properly rated cordset

Re: 60VDC Telecom Power Creepage

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- At 08:50 PM 5/27/2004, Eric Meunier wrote: I found that many components rated at 100VDC do not allow for the 1.4mm creepage specified in table 2L for the PCB land patterns and

RE: 60VDC Telecom Power Creepage

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
part of your problem. Chris Maxwell Nettest Utica, NY 315-266-5128 From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Meunier, Eric Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:51 PM To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: 60VDC Telecom Power Creepage http://www.ieee

EU cordsets

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Fellow Compliance Seekers, (Context: single-phase equipment under EN61010-1, fitted with C13 appliance inlet per IEC60320) How do you handle the selection of cordsets for unit

Re: 60VDC Telecom Power Creepage

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Eric, You need to distinguish between where Basic Insulation is required (e.g. between a TNV-2 Circuit part and an SELV Circuit part that is not protectively earthed) and Functional/Basic Insulation (e.g. between the +ve and

61000-3-2 Power Calculation

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Some questions initiated by a customer. I've asked these questions of the relevant committee, but thought they may be of interest here too. Any comments / suggestions appreciated. These questions concern the checking of

Thanks

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Hi Group, I am leaving the world of electronics, EU Directives and Safety later today as I take an early long holiday and will unsubscribe from the list this morning. I have found the list to have been very informative and

RE: CE Mark on components

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ CE Mark on componentsHello Group, Does anyone know if the IECQ-CECC conformity system is gaining usage in the component world? http://www.iecq-cecc.org/ Thanks! Don Sladek From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org

Active components bridging HV and SELV

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Hi, Across the secondary winding of a DC/DC converter transformer powering an un-earthed SELV load, we have a 75V peak 350KHz square wave at 75VDC input. One side of the winding is connected to the un-earthed SELV ground and

60VDC Telecom Power Creepage

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ Hi, I am looking for guidelines to design a 36-75VDC input DC/DC converter powered from Secondary TNV2 Telecom Power with regards to the applicability of creepage requirements of IEC60950 table 2L to Functional insulation and

FCC label

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- Does anyone know where I can download the FCC declaration of conformity label, in bitmap or other easily viewed format? Thanks. Jim Hulbert Pitney Bowes

RE: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
. Oliver -- Oliver Betz, Muenchen From: douglas_beckw...@mitel.com [ mailto:douglas_beckw...@mitel.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:55 AM To: Derek Walton Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org; Ralph McDiarmid Subject: RE: EMI Report Generators Hi Derek, How

RE: CE Mark on components

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- Definitely not. ICs (and most other components for that matter) do not fall within the scope of any Directive. They do not have an intrinsic function as they need to be installed in a

Re: CE Mark on components

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 10:25:07AM -0600, drcuthb...@micron.com wrote: http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- Once again I have been asked

CE Mark on components

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- Once again I have been asked whether the CE MARK can or should be obtained for an integrated circuit. The IC in question is a simple DRAM memory IC. These are on reels. Any good reasons

Controller for Lifts

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- Does anyone have an idea as to what the applicable European and North American safety standards are for a product controller-with-power supply-with-floor display (displaying the floor

New List Server Instructions

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ The instructions for use of the new emc-pstc list server are at: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html More details to follow. Jim This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

Volunteers Needed

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ I need some volunteers to take photos (digital) at the 2004 IEEE Product Safety Engineering Symposium. Please e-mail me if you would like to help with preserving part of our history. Jim http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium

RE: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Derek, How difficult would it be to port the code over to to a real operating system (Linux)? Regards Doug Derek Walton lfresea...@aol.com Sent by: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org 05/25/04 10:51 PM To:Ralph McDiarmid ralph.mcdiar...@xantrex.com

RE: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Telecommunication Terminal equipment 99/5/EC Website: www.ce-test.nl Phone : +31 10 415 24 26 Fax :+31 10 415 49 53 == _ From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf

RE: Conducted Emissions on DC Req?

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
), but that statement has been removed from the current version. Regards, Doug Parker, NCE Senior Compliance Engineer -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Howard Ji (howardji) Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:16 PM

CE and GS Thank you and small caveat - and another big one !

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Gary Just a top-up on your message, and hopefully it might encourage you to think again. The existing Machinery Directive - and specifically the Commission guidance document - and the forthcoming revised LVD clearly mention the issues of hazards arising from EMC issues. The Machinery

MIL STD vs GAM EG13

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hello all, I’m trying to find a comparative table between MIL STD requirements and GAM EG13. More precisely, I’ve got a product with test reports against the following MIL STD : MIL-STD 810E MIL-STD 461 1 MIL-STD 167 MIL-STD 704 And I would like to know if these tests offer a

CE and GS Thank you and small caveat

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Ladies and gentlemen, Once again you've made me happy that I subscribe to this list. Excellent responses and opinions from a wide range or responsibilities. I do appreciate it. I haven't had a chance to read all of the respondents yet, there were a quite a few, but I wanted to express my

RE: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
these marks. I copied Mr. Gürlich from the Ministry so he might give us some additional advice. Horst INNOVA Product Service GmbH Ampferweg 6 87677 Stöttwang Tel: 08345-952727 Fax : 08345-952729 Von: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [ ailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]Im

AW: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
these marks. I copied Mr. Gürlich from the Ministry so he might give us some additional advice. Horst INNOVA Product Service GmbH Ampferweg 6 87677 Stöttwang Tel: 08345-952727 Fax : 08345-952729 Von: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [ ailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]Im Auftrag

RE: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
:+31 10 415 49 53 == From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Horst Haug Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:33 AM To: Gary McInturff; EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: AW: Legal requirements linking

RE: Conducted Emissions on DC Req?

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
), but that statement has been removed from the current version. Regards, Doug Parker, NCE Senior Compliance Engineer -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Howard Ji (howardji) Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:16 PM

Re: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
415 49 53 == From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Horst Haug Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:33 AM To: Gary McInturff; EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: AW: Legal requirements linking GS

Re: Electrical safety of power supplies

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Take a look at the note in clause 1.1.3 of IEC 61010-1:2001. Best regards, Ron Wellman At 01:20 AM 5/26/2004, iun...@servomex.com wrote: Group, We have a small, stand alone mains to DC power supply tested/certified to IEC 60950. Can this be legally used to power equipment (small portable/desk

AW: Electrical safety of power supplies

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Jon, IEC61010 refers to IEC60950 and in general you can accept a power supply approved to IEC60950 with the same pollution degree and over voltage category. IEC60950 has over voltage category I, II, III (Annex G) that is named Installation category in IEC61010. The IEC61010 spacing allows

RE: Electrical safety of power supplies

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
EN60950 really does not make any provision for Pollution Degree or Installation Category. The 60950-1 makes provisions for Pollution Degree and Installation Category (known as OVERVOLTAGE CATEGORY). Both of them should be taken for consideration when, for example, distances (clearance, creepage,

RE: Standards to be followed for intentional radiators in Europe market

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
...@scmmicro.co.in] Sent: mercoledì 26 maggio 2004 6.50 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Standards to be followed for intentional radiators in Europe market Dear Experts, For the US market, Intentional radiating devices are covered under FCC Part 15 Sub

Re: International EMC mark: similar to legal requirements linking G S and EMC?

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@bocedwards.com wrote (in E1BA0362B28ED211A1E80008C71EA30602070059@EXC_EAS01) about 'International EMC mark: similar to legal requirements linking G S and EMC?' on Wed, 26 May 2004: I have been asked about the International EMC mark

RE: International EMC mark: similar to legal requirements linki ng G S and EMC?

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Ian Basically the answer to your question is Yes! Whether it is to your commercial advantage to follow this route will be a matter of the products in question, where you intend to sell them, and the attitudes of your customers. Be aware, however, that this mark is a both a trademark and a

International EMC mark: similar to legal requirements linking G S and EMC?

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
All I have been asked about the International EMC mark http://www.ul.com/emc/emcint.html Is this another case of non-statutory requirements similar to the GS mark referred to by others? Ian Gordon *** This email is confidential

RE: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
49 53 == From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Horst Haug Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:33 AM To: Gary McInturff; EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: AW: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

RE: Electrical safety of power supplies

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Ian, Legally, probably yes. However, your choice of harmonised standard for the power supply may be called into question unless the operating environment of the gas monitor is within the bounds of the minimum operating environment specified in EN60950. One of the main differences between EN60950

Electrical safety of power supplies

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Group, We have a small, stand alone mains to DC power supply tested/certified to IEC 60950. Can this be legally used to power equipment (small portable/desk top gas monitor) tested/certified to IEC 61010-1 without any further testing/certification? Many thanks in anticipation of your help Ian

Re: AW: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Horst Haug horst.h...@innova-ps.de wrote (in ddeiinpbeglpkckdpnfnoelacfaa.horst.h...@innova-ps.de) about 'AW: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC' on Wed, 26 May 2004: The GS mark is the only safety mark backed up by laws in Europe. Only in Germany, though? Nowhere

RE: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Derek Walton lfresea...@aol.com wrote: I have to beg to differ. It's often the case SW can't be run on XP/2000 from Win 9*. This is because it's 32 bit Vs 16 bit. A lot of the hooks, just plain don't work. Although this thread gets rather off-topic: since Windows 95, the Win32 API is used. 16

AW: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
a trade mark label like INNOVA mark, VDE, TÜV or others, but this is just showing, that one test house has done testing for safety. With best regards Horst INNOVA Product Service GmbH Ampferweg 6 87677 Stöttwang Tel: 08345-952727 Fax : 08345-952729 Von: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org

Re: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Gary McInturff gmcintu...@spraycool.com wrote (in 9f347458edacb64b8ff57db67e6e0faa0121d...@cerebrum.spraycool.com) about 'Legal requirements linking GS and EMC' on Tue, 25 May 2004: The claim has once more been put forth by a major European based NRTL doing business

Standards to be followed for intentional radiators in Europe market

2004-05-26 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear Experts, For the US market, Intentional radiating devices are covered under FCC Part 15 Sub part 'C'. Similarly what are the standards to be followed for CE marking to market in Europe. EN55022 EN55024 are for ITE equipment, the same is applicable for intentional radiators operating

RE: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Ralph, I have to beg to differ. It's often the case SW can't be run on XP/2000 from Win 9*. This is because it's 32 bit Vs 16 bit. A lot of the hooks, just plain don't work. We had to write Compliance 3 from the ground up to run on a 32 bit OS, however, some Win 98 2nd Edition installations

Re: Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I agree. There is no relationship between EMI signatures and safety requirements. I could see a request to examine the EMI signatures being compliant in the sense that then the design is fixed, but that is a cumbersome, serial way of doing things. The processes ought to be parallel except where

Legal requirements linking GS and EMC

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Gents, The claim has once more been put forth by a major European based NRTL doing business in the us that they cannot grant a GS mark for ITE equipment unless they have the emissions data during the safety review. I believe that they may want it but it is not required under statutes, and

IEEE EMC Soc UKRI Chapter Event Notice - Wroughton

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Everyone You are invited to attend this year's second meeting of the UK and Republic of Ireland Chapter of the IEEE EMC Society on 23 June. The subjects of this meeting are EMC at printed board level, and the history of EMC. The all-day meeting will conclude with a tour of the large exhibits of

Re: Job Opening

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Don, I have over 18 years experience in EMC and Product Safety. I have constructed several test labs for certification of products. Attached is my resume detailing my experience. Please review it and contact me if you require any additional

SV: Conducted Emissions on DC Req?

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
- Electromagnetic compatibility Best regards Amund Fra: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [ ailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]På vegne av john.merr...@modicon.com Sendt: 25. mai 2004 17:43 Til: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Emne: Conducted Emissions on DC Req? Is there an exemption from

RE: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Have you tried the software running under WinXP? It's unusual for software running in Win9x to not run correctly in WinXP, but any device drivers will likely need updating. Ralph McDiarmid, AScT Compliance Engineering Group Xantrex Technology Inc. -Original Message- From: John

Job opening

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Sr. Team Lead/Sr. Supervisor Category: Product Safety, EMC, Reliability Type: Employee Description: Job Summary WMS world wide Product Safety, EMC Reliability compliance and investigations. They provide leadership to a team of Product Safety, EMC Reliability Engineers. Qualifications Required

Job Opening

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Looking for adventure? Tyco Safety Products has an opening for a Principle Compliance Engineer. Please see description below. If interested, reply directly to me. Regards, Don Umbdenstock Manager Compliance Engineering Tyco Safety Products / Sensormatic 6600 Congress Avenue Boca Raton,

Re: European wiring question

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Matthias Weingart i...@pentax.boerde.de wrote (in 20040525110156.b15...@pentax.boerde.de) about 'European wiring question' on Tue, 25 May 2004: I am sure UK-boxes are different ;-). I think harmonisation in the field of electric power at the mechanical level will take some

Re: Conducted Emissions on DC Req?

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
EN300386 requires conducted emission on dc power ports. EN55022 doesn't require dc conducted emission on dc power ports. Both standards are usual standards in my industry. At 11:43 AM 5/25/2004 -0400, john.merr...@modicon.com wrote: Is there an exemption from testing Conducted Emissions

RE: Conducted Emissions on DC Req?

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
John, I would think it would be good engineering practice to test the DC Power ports even if there is an exemption. Who knows what issues could arise later if there is ingress/egress from the DC power ports. Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org

Re: Conducted Emissions on DC Req?

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
john.merr...@modicon.com wrote (in OF668EEBA3.5F36C0B8-ON85256E9F.0055A bef-85256e9f.00564...@modicon.com) about 'Conducted Emissions on DC Req?', on Tue, 25 May 2004: Is there an exemption from testing Conducted Emissions on DC Power ports? If so can anyone point me to where the exemption is

Thanks: European wiring question

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
My thanks to the many of you who responded with useful and interesting information. It seems to me, based on the responses and on my wife's observations, that some European lighting manufacturers have not fully incorporated the details of US (and I believe, Canadian) electrical wiring

Conducted Emissions on DC Req?

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Is there an exemption from testing Conducted Emissions on DC Power ports? If so can anyone point me to where the exemption is documented? My particular case is with Industrial Control equipment for use in fixed and mobil (shipboard) applications. Thanks in advance. John Merrill Product

RE: European wiring question

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
-Original Message- From: Matthias Weingart [mailto:i...@pentax.boerde.de] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:25 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: European wiring question On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 10:08:37AM +0100, John Allen wrote: Thanks for the info - but I am probably not

SV: European wiring question

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
/group.htm?category_id=2532 The boxes are connected together with plastic tubing flexible or rigid. http://www.elbutik.se/group.htm?category_id=1919 /Janne Fran: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]For Matthias Weingart Skickat: den 25 maj 2004 14:25 Till: emc

Re: European wiring question

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 10:08:37AM +0100, John Allen wrote: Thanks for the info - but I am probably not the only one who is a little confused as to which of the boxes shown are used in CEILINGS to support light fittings. Can you point out those used for this purpose? I am not a

RE: European wiring question

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Matthias Thanks for the info - but I am probably not the only one who is a little confused as to which of the boxes shown are used in CEILINGS to support light fittings. Can you point out those used for this purpose? Thanks John Allen -Original Message- From: Matthias Weingart [

Re: European wiring question

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Take a look at this german shop for commonly used wiring boxes in Germany: http://www.elektrofachmarkt-online.de/a fputzmaterial_aufputzmaterial_allgemein.htm I am sure UK-boxes are different ;-). I think harmonisation in the field of electric power at the mechanical level will take some hundred

RE: Australien requirements

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Belgium From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Martin Garwood Sent: dinsdag 25 mei 2004 6:01 To: Anders Svensson B (LI/EAB); emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Australien requirements Hi Anders, A product that incorporates 802.11b with ADSL

Re: European wiring question

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Original Message On 24/05/2004, 22:21:27, Jacob Schanker schan...@frontiernet.net wrote regarding European wiring question: This question is slightly off the usual for this list (although there *are* safety implications), but I am hoping that EU list members can answer it. When installing

EMF Directive for workers

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear emc-pstc group, For those who may have interest a new directive have been published in Official Journal: DIRECTIVE 2004/40/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 29 April 2004 on the minimum health and safety requirements regarding the exposure of workers to the risks arising

Re: Limits for harmonic current

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Gary McInturff gmcintu...@spraycool.com wrote (in 9F347458EDACB64B8FF 57db67e6e0faa0121d...@cerebrum.spraycool.com) about 'Limits for harmonic current', on Mon, 24 May 2004: I've forgotten. Switch mode power supplies used to be class D, and I'm not sure if that hasn't changed to class A, and don't

Re: Australien requirements

2004-05-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Anders, A product that incorporates 802.11b with ADSL falls under ACA's radiocommunications devices (compliance labelling) notice 2003 and Telecommunications Labelling (Customer Equipment and Customer Cabling) Notice 2001 respectively. On the RF side, a ETS 300 328 report will be

Limits for harmonic current

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I've forgotten. Switch mode power supplies used to be class D, and I'm not sure if that hasn't changed to class A, and don't have the most recent standard. Thanks Gary

European wiring question

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
This question is slightly off the usual for this list (although there *are* safety implications), but I am hoping that EU list members can answer it. When installing hanging overhead light fixtures to a junction box in the ceiling, there is a canopy or bezel that fits against the ceiling and

RE: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
OK, Sales alert :-) We have just ( literally ) finished validating Schaffners Compliance 3 software as a replacement for the HP software. We realised that there was going to be a need for it. The HP hardware is awesome stuff. Far a short time there may even be a trade in value to the old HP

RE: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
If you are interested in capturing data and plotting them, you may consider SoftPlot Measurement Presentation Software (www.softplot.com) It captures data (x-y, Re/Im, |A|/angle ...) from many different spectrum and network analyzers and scopes (drivers are already built-in), and plots them in

RE: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
-Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:27 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EMI Report Generators I read in !emc-pstc that melli...@tycoint.com wrote (in 2141C5F52FD2CA4 182AF6927090263B909CD5ACA@flbocexu04) about

ValleyLab Colorado?

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Sorry to spam the list, but is there anyone connected to ValleyLab reading this list? Brent DeWitt Loveland, CO

EAS Equipment

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Does anyone know if the RTTE Directive applies to Electronic Article Surveillance (EAS) equipment operating at 218.3 Hz? I cannot find any standard that is harmonized to the RTTE Directive that applies to Short Range Devices (SRD) under 9 kHz or specifically to EAS equipment. I'm thinking that

Re: EMI Report Generators

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that melli...@tycoint.com wrote (in 2141C5F52FD2CA4 182AF6927090263B909CD5ACA@flbocexu04) about 'EMI Report Generators' on Mon, 24 May 2004: Doe anyone know of a good replacement for the HP 85578A EMI Report Generator software? We are changing to XP and this software will not

EMI Report Generators

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Doe anyone know of a good replacement for the HP 85578A EMI Report Generator software? We are changing to XP and this software will not run on XP to the best of my knowledge. Using the software to capture screen captures from a HP 8591EM and generate data sheets for test reports in Word. Is a

Reminder - NPSS Member Recruitment Dinner Meeting on Wednesday, May 26, 2004

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hello, To enable NPSS to plan for the dinner, please make your reservations for dinner and or workshops as soon as possible. You are invited to the Northeast Product Safety Society’s 16th annual membership recruitment dinner featuring keynote speaker Robert Straetz of the US Department of

Australien requirements

2004-05-24 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hello group, Can you help me with listing the standards which are required for a WLAN 802-11 b and g accesspoint with integrated DSL (connected to PSTN) to meet the requirements in Australia? (EMC/Safety/Telecom/RF safety.) Thanks! Regards Anders

Re: LVD, EMC, Machinery directives (etc.) in languages of new EU member states

2004-05-22 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I speak Hungarian, and I couldn't make heads or tails of that excerpt. Of course, I have trouble with some of that stuff in English as well... on 5/21/04 6:42 PM, Glyn Garside at ggars...@us.tuv.com wrote: EU Enlargement - it's for real!! In case you need them, copies of most(?) of the EU

LVD, EMC, Machinery directives (etc.) in languages of new EU member states

2004-05-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
EU Enlargement - it's for real!! In case you need them, copies of most(?) of the EU Directives in nine languages (Czech, Estonian, Hungarian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Slovak, Slovene) related to the addition of the 10 new members can (for now) be found at:

French Laser Markings

2004-05-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear French Experts, I need this translated properly: INVISIBLE LASER RADIATION DO NOT VIEW DIRECTLY WITH MAGNIFIERS CLASS 1M LASER PRODUCT Viewing the laser output with optical instruments (e.g. magnifier, microscopes) within a distance of 100mm may pose an eye hazard. Thanks for all,

RE: Ferrite core test methodology

2004-05-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
close. A quick glance at the curves could have averted that. Earl From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Georgerian, Richard Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:59 PM To: IEEE Subject: Ferrite core test methodology Greetings All, In regards

RE: Ferrite core test methodology

2004-05-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Richard, In working with Steward ferrite on this I can answer - NO. There is no specific standard - but there is good engineering practice. Steward have developed an excellent test methodology that they are using to prove the efficacy of their ferrite pound for pound against the competition.

Australia Product Safety Data Sheet

2004-05-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Does anyone have any experience with Australia's Product Safety Data Sheets (PSDS)? Is it just a matter of simply filling it out? Or is there a large process behind it? Thanks for any help to you may be able to provide.

Ferrite core test methodology

2004-05-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Greetings All, In regards to measuring for the Z impedance for ferrite cores and beads, is there a specific standard that ferrite vendors use to create such curves? For that matter, are there any such standards? I would suspect that if test set-ups and methodologies are different from vendor to

EFT Generator EFT/B-100 from Compliance Design Inc.

2004-05-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Guys, I have picked up an EFT Tester before it was to be put on the scrap heap. It seems to work OK and I intend to use it for debug and pre-compliance EFT testing (EN61000-4-4?). Unfortunatly there is no paperwork available. Does anyone know how, where I can get some information on this test

RE: CE EMC Directive

2004-06-30 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
== FW-Original Message- FWFrom: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc- FWp...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate FWSent: woensdag 30 juni 2004 19:41 FWTo: emc-p...@ieee.org FWSubject: Re: CE EMC Directive FW FWhttp://www.ieee-pses.org

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