Re: [Emc-users] xl pulleys
Check this place out Gene, http://www.hmmanufacturing.com/pulley-stock1.html I just bought some stuff from there, good quality, great price. We have a situation on our edm machine where the standard sheaves available weren't wide enough, and I found these guys. Hope it helps, Rick On 09/19/2016 01:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Do any of you know of a pulley maker that can supply a large hub in in a > 40 tooth pulley that is also more than an inch wide at the hub? > > > I find that to align a belt on the X drive, that I have to find a pulley > with an 8mm bore, but around 2" wide at the hub, because I am going to > have to bore it away under the belt to allow it to sit on the X drive > shaft with an offset of at east an inch so that it can be aligned with > the pulley on the motor. > > I just went thru 18 pages of ebay without finding a pulley with a hub > wider than 1". > > So its either a long hub, or I make the adaptor, which means the > pulley will need bored out to at least 1.375" in diameter in order to > fit over the adapter's outer cylinder, perhaps all the way thru. Maybe > even make a flange on the adapter that a thin webbed pulley might be > bolted to. Obviously I don't relish that idea. Doable, yes. A time > sink, double yes. > > I did see ebay had some 2/1 and 3/1 step drives that might give that much > axial offset, but they were for wider belts and even a 2/1 would impinge > on the gear ratio, possible messing with the performance of a G76's end > of stroke retraction. > > I'm not terribly interested in dealing with that one custom pulley maker, > having been quoted $272 for the metal version of the plastic one I can > get from LMS for $4.50 + ship. > > So if anyone knows of other alternatives, I'm all eyeballs. > > Thanks everybody. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Servo drive tripping out
I am wondering if it just temperature related, I will have to turn the AC unit back on, and put a temp sensor in the cabinet, and see if I can get a common trip temperature maybe. Dropping the cabinet temp 20 degrees has got to make some stuff contract a little bit, maybe enough to make a crappy connection on the circuit board if it is a cracked resistor or capacitor?? Rick On 08/02/2016 11:56 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > On the Mazak lathe I often have problems with the drives tripping out when > there's high humidity levels (85% and up). In fact, the drive doesn't want > to turn on at all, whenever I turn on the machine it's on fault state. Most > of the time it happens on one of the drives, but if the humidity is too > high, both of them are tripped. This one only has fans but no air > conditioning system. > > I don't believe that a low humidity enviroment could cause the problem, but > I'm just guessing. > > The same machine had a Fanuc 3 phase AC drive for the spindle. That one > tripped out from time to time, but worked ok. One day, it started to trip > several times on the day, until finally we never could make it work again. > Apparently the problem was on the main board, because everything else on > the power stage was just fine. We replaced the drive because a Yaskawa > drive was cheaper than the main board only. > > > > 2016-08-02 12:39 GMT-03:00 Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>: > >> Hello Guys, >> >> I have a Fanuc triple axis servo drive on one of my machines, and since >> last Thursday it has been randomly tripping out, and faulting the cnc >> control. It is from roughly 1995, and has been running just fine up >> until this point. Even while just sitting powered up, but with no servo >> motion commands it will trip out and shut off the machine. I noticed >> though, that when the cabinet doors are shut, it trips almost all the >> time, when I open the cabinet doors, it has been running since Friday, >> only tripping just once, early yesterday morning. The cabinet is air >> conditioned, and had the thermostat set at 95 degrees for the point to >> turn on. We turned it down, to 75 thinking that would help, but I think >> it actually made it worse. Would there be any way that on an old PCB, if >> something was going south on it, a humidity level that was too low could >> cause something to not work, and when it is hot and humid, it would >> function properly? >> >> Here is a link to an identical PCB, >> >> http://www.fanucworld.com/media/image/800/0/A20B-1001-0770%20Front.jpg >> >> -- >> Thanks >> >> >> Rick Lair >> Superior Roll & Turning LLC >> 399 East Center Street >> Petersburg MI, 49270 >> PH: 734-279-1831 >> FAX: 734-279-1166 >> www.superiorroll.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] OT: Servo drive tripping out
Hello Guys, I have a Fanuc triple axis servo drive on one of my machines, and since last Thursday it has been randomly tripping out, and faulting the cnc control. It is from roughly 1995, and has been running just fine up until this point. Even while just sitting powered up, but with no servo motion commands it will trip out and shut off the machine. I noticed though, that when the cabinet doors are shut, it trips almost all the time, when I open the cabinet doors, it has been running since Friday, only tripping just once, early yesterday morning. The cabinet is air conditioned, and had the thermostat set at 95 degrees for the point to turn on. We turned it down, to 75 thinking that would help, but I think it actually made it worse. Would there be any way that on an old PCB, if something was going south on it, a humidity level that was too low could cause something to not work, and when it is hot and humid, it would function properly? Here is a link to an identical PCB, http://www.fanucworld.com/media/image/800/0/A20B-1001-0770%20Front.jpg -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?
On 07/20/2016 11:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 20 July 2016 at 16:41, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: >> So I am thinking of other ways to do this. > http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6 > Bad link, just goes to Mcmasters main page, -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports.http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: X Axis twitch on turning center
Well, I think I have found the problem, it was mechanical, I just didn't see it the last twenty or so hours of looking at the machine. This machine has a 1.5" bore hydraulic cylinder that acts as a counter balance cylinder for the cross slide and turret, that runs at full system hydraulic pressure, doing the math, the turret and slide weigh just over 800lbs, and it's a slant bed, so the cylinder is greatly needed. The seal around the rod of the cylinder is blown, spewing oil out all over, and I believe the seal it randomly binding the rod, causing a jerk when the servo finally gets it unstuck. Now to get it all torn down, and see exactly what went wrong. Rick On 07/06/2016 06:23 PM, dave wrote: > Random thoughts: (and believe me at my age they are random) :-) > Try separating a possible mechanical problem from an electrical problem. > I'm assuming here that the drive takes a +-10 Vdc signal from linuxcnc > and drives the x amp. > Grab your handy dandy battery box and set it so you get the desired X > axis velocity. Do passes in > X + and - and look for the glitch. Resolvers tend to be really rugged > which is why they are used in > machine tools and aircraft. However, without gearing to the servo shaft > they may be low in resolution. This often gets cured by the dual > approach. re' Stu's big machine which uses a glass scale for I and > therefore final position. Encoders are great for resolution and if > differential really rather noise immune. > > I believe Andy made the comment that the resolver might be > under-utilized. With a good resolver > to digital encoder you might settle down the glitches. Another thought > is that some drives using the resolver for commutation may also have a > "encoder" output. > Just thinkin'. But then my son claims I over-think everything. ;-) > Good Luck. > > Dave > > On 07/05/2016 09:57 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 05 July 2016 09:49:08 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: >> >>> 2016-07-05 9:34 GMT-03:00 Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>: >>>> I have been having a problem on another one of our turning centers >>>> where the x axis will "twitch", for lack of a better word, at random >>>> times while moving down ( slant bed, back tool lathe). I have >>>> checked all couplings between the encoder and ball screw, checked >>>> the synchronous belt tension between the ball screw and the servo, I >>>> just replaced the encoder, and I still cannot figure out what my be >>>> causing this. It is not every time it is moving, and it is not in >>>> the same place every time when it does happen. Could there be >>>> something funky going on in the servo? I was thinking if I had a >>>> storage oscilloscope I could what the motor voltage to see what that >>>> is doing, but I don't have one of those, but have flirted with >>>> buying one in the past. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts as to what would cause this? >>> Hello Rick. >>> >>> Not an expert on this list but, could it be this is is happening >>> because you have the gibs of the joint a little loose? Since it's only >>> happening while moving down it's more than a possibility. >>> >>> Off course this could only affect the movement of the joint no more >>> than the backlash of the screw, in fact if you have this problem with >>> the gibs it's time to check also the backlash too. >> This sounds odd, but I found my table, with the gibs set for easy motion >> but couldn't feel any slop when I grabbed the end and tried to rotate >> it, would at times move on the oil film with no ground contact for 2 or >> 3 inches at a time. I debated putting a ground on the table but snugged >> the gibs instead. I mention it only because the motor driving the table >> is generally mounted solid to the table. >> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett > > -- > Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San > Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries > present their vision of the future. This family event has something for > everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. > http://sdm.link/attshape > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com ---
Re: [Emc-users] OT: X Axis twitch on turning center
So after spending the last few hours looking this thing, I have found the following, this is a 3 phrase brush-less AC Siemens servo, with I believe resolver (no tachometer) feedback to the drive ( for the commutation I would believe) and the encoder I replaced just goes back to the cnc control. As for machine rigidity, when running as it should, this machine cuts hardened D-2 tool steel tube and pipe tooling, and will maintain 0.0005" or better holding commanded size. The machine is roughly a 1992, and has been running fine, up until the last few months, when we noticed this problem. I had the operator set it up with one of the programs that we have just noticed this happening. WE ran it probably 5 or 6 times, and I noticed that there is no commonality to when it happens, or the frequency as to when it happens, whether the slide is going up, or down it is actually doing it, I was watching the ball screw/motor while during the cut, and it was going up, and while it moving along at roughly 6-8 IPM, I saw the screw make a very slight reversal, and then continue on making the cut in the proper direction. And I saw the same while it was cutting down, the screw was moving along nice and smoothly, then a very slight and quick reversal, and it continued on as commanded. This is happening on straight line moves, arcs, chamfers, any real commanded direction, all of which is making a real mess of the customers tooling we are trying to rework. Absolute stumper Rick -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: X Axis twitch on turning center
It is an AC servo, identical to this one, https://app.box.com/s/9ulc44g8sr5sya8srmcd3q0h1gss0tpe Could the tach in the motor be acting up? Rick On 07/05/2016 08:46 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 5 July 2016 at 13:34, Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com> wrote: >> Could there be something funky going on in the >> servo? > What sort of servo is it? Could it be a problem with a commutation sensor? > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] OT: X Axis twitch on turning center
Hello All, Figured I would ask here, with all he knowledge of servos and drives floating around, I have been having a problem on another one of our turning centers where the x axis will "twitch", for lack of a better word, at random times while moving down ( slant bed, back tool lathe). I have checked all couplings between the encoder and ball screw, checked the synchronous belt tension between the ball screw and the servo, I just replaced the encoder, and I still cannot figure out what my be causing this. It is not every time it is moving, and it is not in the same place every time when it does happen. Could there be something funky going on in the servo? I was thinking if I had a storage oscilloscope I could what the motor voltage to see what that is doing, but I don't have one of those, but have flirted with buying one in the past. Any thoughts as to what would cause this? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Moving axis while paused
On 06/27/2016 11:56 AM, andy pugh wrote: > However, to say that it is possible to never need to stop a job > part-way through to fix something is, I think, going a bit far. As I > recall the moveoff component was written after a request from a > commercial roll-machining company who wanted to be able to change > chipped or worn tips mid-job. And You would be correct Andy, I don't know if he did it specifically for us, but we are the shop that Dewey wrote that component for. As for the component itself, it works fairly well, it is more of an incremental jog while program is paused, rather than a straight jog off of what you are machining, takes a little getting used to but after you get the hang of it, it works pretty good. The one major thing in regards to the component is, is that it DOES NOT OBEY MACHINE SOFT LIMITS, so if you are in the process of moving the axis with the component during a feed-hold, you can park your machine on a hard limit over-travel very easily, and this is stated in the component. It is very easy to implement into a config, add the proper section to the Applications section of the INI, then add the relevant sections to each individual axis for the machine, and it is off to the races. If you need any help, let me know. Rick -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Quiet?
On 06/08/2016 09:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 8 June 2016 at 14:13, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> This is a definite possibility. I have cousins in Canada and they have >> all but told me that America has totally flipped out with Trump. > They have probably looked at his suggestion that Mexico should pay for > a wall, and are looking at the length of their own borders. > Now that is some funny shit Andy !!!!!! Rick -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Quiet?
I was wondering the same thing Todd, and we were just actually talking about that here at the shop. Rick On 06/08/2016 07:36 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Two days with nothing from the mailing list. Are things really that quiet or > is the mailing list messed up again? > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Multpile 7i80HD's from one PC
Good Morning Guys, I was wondering, is it possible to run 3 7i80HD's off of one PC. We have an Okuma bridge mill that we just installed, and it has an off brand retrofitted control on it, that we are having problems getting running. When it was retrofitted they used Opto22 I/O boards, and there are 6 of them, so I was figuring 3 7i80HD's or even 3 5i23's would allow me to hook up all 6 I/O boards along with a 7i48 to control the servo's and encoder feedback. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tool Marks?
Good Morning Andy, This operation is done on different machines on the other side of the shop for the most part, all of which still have the original Cincinnati Milacron control on them. I have seen on a rare occasion them do this on the LCNC turning centers, but not all that often. Are you thinking of a new component then? Rick On 05/25/2016 09:26 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 25 May 2016 at 14:13, Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com> wrote: >> As for the actual topic, I see our guys constantly fiddling with the >> spindle speed override potentiometer, up/down/up/down when re-cutting >> the hardened D-2 rolls that we re-condition, > This sounds like my idea of deliberately applying a dither to the > speed command via HAL. > > Have you considered asking them if they would like that facility? > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tool Marks?
As for the actual topic, I see our guys constantly fiddling with the spindle speed override potentiometer, up/down/up/down when re-cutting the hardened D-2 rolls that we re-condition, it eliminates the wavy finish, similar to what you are seeing in the MDF. Rick On 05/25/2016 08:40 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Yes, we still have copperheads, water moccasins, and coral snakes in the US, > but by far the most common poisonous snakes has to be the various kinds of > rattlers. To be honest here in northern Ohio I see very few snakes, except > garter snakes yeesh they are everywhere you look. Not that they arn't > around, just don't see em. > > - Original Message - > From: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@wdtv.com> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:55:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool Marks? > > On Wednesday 25 May 2016 07:29:08 Todd Zuercher wrote: > >> Ah, Nice to be here in America where most of the venomous slitherers >> come with a warning alarm. >> > But not all, this seems to be copperhead country here in WV. No alarms > on them critters. The BIL used to kill 15 to 20 a year in the barns at > his place. > > Neighbor across the street here a few years back lost a brand new bunny, > & eventually killed the copperhead that came back for seconds but by > then the bunny's were too big. We have a strip of grass across the back > road that one of us with a rider keeps mowed as that seems to discourage > them from crossing nearly bare ground to hunt in our yards. I snarled up > something that might have been a copperhead with my rider 3 or 4 years > ago when I was over there mowing. Made a racket, but beat it to a pulp. > Looked around but never found the head for +(positive) ID. > [...] > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tool Marks?
Where at in northern ohio would you be talking about? I'm in northwest ohio. Rick On 05/25/2016 08:40 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Yes, we still have copperheads, water moccasins, and coral snakes in the US, > but by far the most common poisonous snakes has to be the various kinds of > rattlers. To be honest here in northern Ohio I see very few snakes, except > garter snakes yeesh they are everywhere you look. Not that they arn't > around, just don't see em. > > - Original Message - > From: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@wdtv.com> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:55:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool Marks? > > On Wednesday 25 May 2016 07:29:08 Todd Zuercher wrote: > >> Ah, Nice to be here in America where most of the venomous slitherers >> come with a warning alarm. >> > But not all, this seems to be copperhead country here in WV. No alarms > on them critters. The BIL used to kill 15 to 20 a year in the barns at > his place. > > Neighbor across the street here a few years back lost a brand new bunny, > & eventually killed the copperhead that came back for seconds but by > then the bunny's were too big. We have a strip of grass across the back > road that one of us with a rider keeps mowed as that seems to discourage > them from crossing nearly bare ground to hunt in our yards. I snarled up > something that might have been a copperhead with my rider 3 or 4 years > ago when I was over there mowing. Made a racket, but beat it to a pulp. > Looked around but never found the head for +(positive) ID. > [...] > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tool Marks?
The only real poisonous things around my parts are the spiders, Brown Recluse, and Wolf spiders to be exact, and boy are they big and pack a punch, never heard of anyone dying, but their venom is necrotic, so it just kills all the tissue it comes into contact with. And at the size of a half dollar most times, they are hard to miss. Rick On 05/25/2016 08:40 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Yes, we still have copperheads, water moccasins, and coral snakes in the US, > but by far the most common poisonous snakes has to be the various kinds of > rattlers. To be honest here in northern Ohio I see very few snakes, except > garter snakes yeesh they are everywhere you look. Not that they arn't > around, just don't see em. > > - Original Message - > From: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@wdtv.com> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:55:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool Marks? > > On Wednesday 25 May 2016 07:29:08 Todd Zuercher wrote: > >> Ah, Nice to be here in America where most of the venomous slitherers >> come with a warning alarm. >> > But not all, this seems to be copperhead country here in WV. No alarms > on them critters. The BIL used to kill 15 to 20 a year in the barns at > his place. > > Neighbor across the street here a few years back lost a brand new bunny, > & eventually killed the copperhead that came back for seconds but by > then the bunny's were too big. We have a strip of grass across the back > road that one of us with a rider keeps mowed as that seems to discourage > them from crossing nearly bare ground to hunt in our yards. I snarled up > something that might have been a copperhead with my rider 3 or 4 years > ago when I was over there mowing. Made a racket, but beat it to a pulp. > Looked around but never found the head for +(positive) ID. > [...] > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Early 80's Matsuura conversion.
Nice work Sam, That tool carousel moves pretty quick!! Rick On 05/17/2016 01:28 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > More progress. > > https://youtu.be/XntXTuXNfvE > > https://youtu.be/kXLF0u-tdT0 > > sam > > On 05/03/2016 01:54 PM, sam sokolik wrote: >> Couple of things I had forgotten in the previous big conversion. (using >> opto22 boards..) >> >> -Dc modules are polarity sensitive. (who knew? ;) ) (and when you >> reverse them - they have a diode so they are 'just on' ) >> -The 24 module opto22 boards need to have a jumper soldered in to power >> them from the 50 pin cable mesa card (logic side). >> >> Lets just say you get some funny interactions between i/o when it isn't >> powered - and it works just enough that it makes you scratch your head... >> >> Still have a bunch of dressup and i/o to hook up. >> >> http://electronicsam.com/images/matsuura/MatsVFDside.JPG >> >> sam >> >> On 5/1/2016 4:59 PM, sam sokolik wrote: >>> Reusing as much as we can. (servos, drives, vfd...) Mesa hardware. >>> >>> A bit more specifics here >>> http://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/30441-matsuura-mc-500v2-retrofit >>> >>> Video - A bit better servo tuning. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81uwBAuR96I >>> >>> No surprises yet... axis and spindle/orient all working - just have to >>> figure out the tool changer. >>> >>> sam >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager >>> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers >>> of >>> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and >>> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! >>> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >> -- >> Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager >> Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers >> of >> your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and >> reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! >> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > -- > Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who > bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM > restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the > apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7mmx1.0 decently hard cap screw, how scarce are they?
Hello Gene, Not sure if it was mentioned, Have you looked at Mcmaster Carr, I see they have M7x1 SHCS, various lengths, http://www.mcmaster.com/#socket-head-cap-screws/=12c2urv And you could have them next day, Rick On 05/09/2016 09:06 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > Gene, > Do you have any Rural King stores around you? > The local big Rural King is selling metric screws by the pound. > A little ironic I think; They should probably be selling them by the > Kilogram. ;-) > That said; I doubt that they have 7mm screws if they are rare. But I > know they have 6 and 8 mm screws by the lb and for about the same price > as SAE sizes. > > Dave > > On 5/7/2016 11:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings all; >> >> Trying to hold a 10" diamond saw blade yesterday, tight enough to keep it >> from slipping, I striped out the 6mm threads in my arbor. >> >> So today I bored it gently out to around .230" or 15/64's and re-tapped >> that to 7mm x1.0. It wasn't until I was cleaning that up that I >> realized I had not seen any 7mm x1.0 screws on my side of the planet. >> So I assume that I may as well redo it for an 8mm screw tomorrow. >> >> But that will be loads of fun because with the 7mm tap in the chuck, I >> had to keep asking for a smaller peck per stroke because even in low >> gear, and the current limit in Jon's servo amp set to limit at about 15 >> amps, 150% drive for that motors nameplate, I was raising the divider >> that determined the additional stroke per peck until it was taking at >> least 7 or 8 pecks to tap one additional mm deeper. Combine that with >> the tap I was using have a longer that normal nose taper, I hit the >> bottom of the hole and that locked the spindle so I'm standing there, >> noting the spindle had stopped and jon's servo amp was singing as it >> overload regulated. Stopped lcnc, loosened the chuck to release the >> tap, ran the head up 6" or so, and unscrewed the tap from the hole. >> Threads look great, but I suspect there is not a 7mm cap screw about in >> these here parts. Pure unobtainium comes to mind for the alloy. :) >> >> So, just out of curiosity, are 7mm bolts really that hard to find, or am >> I looking in the wrong local stores? >> >> NAPA perhaps? Pricy there though. Seems metric in the label makes them >> an additional $2 a bolt or nut. Been there, done that. Should have >> gotten a free t-shirt for the price I paid for a 6 pack of 8mm self >> lockers. Bah. >> >> Home Depot, up in Bridgeport, 26 miles up the Super-Pot-Hole, aka I-79 >> has the best stock ATM, but I cannot recall seeing any 7's. 8's I can >> probably get locally at Tractor Supply. In a decent alloy even. >> >> I also think my 8mm tap is a lot sharper than the black oxide finished >> 7mm is, so maybe I can get by driving it with the mill. We'll find out >> tommorrow. >> >> Thanks everybody. >> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Loading SSD
Good Morning All, I recently purchased one of these, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707380 in order to build new systems for the machines, ( to avoid having another PC half torn down on my table to quickly insert and remove the hard drives) and work with other HDD and SSD's lying around, my question is, what is the best way to create a new system on a blank SSD using a device like this? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Can't get XHC-HB04 MPG to work
No, you need to create a [HALUI] section in you main INI file, and add these elements. Rick On 04/20/2016 11:31 AM, dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: > So you're saying [HALUI] in a supplemental .ini file? > Alright, that sounds like the problem! > > > Are there more elements which will only work if placed in the main .ini file? > > layout20.ini has [XHC_HB04_BUTTONS], [EMC], [HAL], [XHC_HB04_CONFIG], and > [APPLICATIONS]. > > I'm guessing [EMC] and [HAL] need to be in the main .ini, right? What about > [APPLICATIONS]? > > > [XHC_HB04_BUTTONS] > step= xhc-hb04.stepsize-up > spindle = halui.spindle.start > > So, the step size did not go up when I pressed the button. Spindle didn't > start. Those are NOT an MDI, so I still have another problem, right? What > might it be? > > Danny > > > andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 20 April 2016 at 07:29, Danny Miller <dan...@austin.rr.com> wrote: >> IIRC the halui.mdi-command-01 etc didn't seem to exist under halui. > > > Those pins are created by halui based on the MDI_COMMAND entries in > the [HALUI] section of the main INI file. > > So, you need to find or create a [HALUI] section in your main .ini > file (as many as you need) and each one will define a single-line > G-code command that will be run when the corresponding HAL pin is > triggered. > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/ini-config.html#_halui_section > > For more complex actions your MDI_COMMAND can be a subroutine call > such as O CALL > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Linux Security
This is all good info, I do know we have a firewall setup on the router, much more than that, I'm not sure, and I don't really mess with that aspect of or system, I'm just responsible for the Linux machines, As for the actual cnc machines, they are internet connected, but the operators do not do ANY browsing on them at all, they simply don't have the time, nor are allowed for that matter. My PC in the office is mainly what I was asking about, but all the conversation shed some light for me on the whole subject in general. The reason for being connected, was to simplify the programming aspect of things, now we don't have to worry about thumb drives for all of the machines laying around, we have 4 Linuxcnc machines running daily, along with roughly a dozen other CNC's, and only 1 person doing the programming. So being "connected" allows him to sit at his desk, make the program, drop it in the respective nc_files folder for whatever machine he is making the program for, and move on to his next program, Now that I built a PC using Mint, I have the only Linux based PC in the shop, that will be used for my daily computer, and that was the reason for asking about what safeguards I should worry about in regards to security. That and the fact that I like the Mint OS using Mate, so much, that I am going to build a PC for my home personal use, and am concerned about security for that as well, but that is a different animal all together, because at home we use our Blackberry smartphones as wifi hotspots to access the net on our laptop. So I don't use a router at home, and will need to figure out how to setup a firewall for that when I get to that point. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Linux Security
So what would you recommend on my desktop PC in my office, that I do everything on, that I just converted over to Linux Mint? Rick On 04/04/2016 10:43 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > A backup of important files stored at other location or other place not > likely to be affected by the same misshap is always good. > > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 07:33:21 -0700 > Jerry Scharf <jsch...@finsix.com> wrote: > >> Rick, >> >> The family of software you mentioned are there to try to protect you when >> you bring new things onto the machine. >> >> Anti-virus is for finding bad programs that have been added to the machine. >> If you stick to only installing things that are downloaded from the debian >> distro and things you can vouch for yourself, then this becomes a >> non-issue. If you are loading up many random tools on the machine, then it >> may become an issue. >> >> Now comes the bad news about anti-virus. They offer marginal protection at >> best. It's not that they don't work, it's that its a complex target and >> there is only so much that can be found in file signatures. >> >> The best safety comes from caution. Don't load anything on the linux-cnc >> machine that doesn't need to be there. Don't have a browser on that >> machine. Do minimal development on the machine and only with well trusted >> tools. Vet everything extra you load onto the machines and keep up with the >> disrto security patches. Don't stick a thumb drive into the machine unless >> you personally formatted it on a clean machine. >> >> FWIW, I don't run ant-virus on my machines. >> >> jerry >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello Guys, >>> >>> Is there any need for any anti-virus/malware/spyware software on my >>> linux machines, I have never thought about, but last week I switched my >>> desktop over to Mint from XP, and wasn't sure what security measures are >>> needed, I wasn't ever really concerned about the CNC's, but now with my >>> desktop, it got me wondering. >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jerry Scharf >> FINsix IT >> 650.285.6361 w >> 650.279.7017 m >> -- >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] OT: Linux Security
Hello Guys, Is there any need for any anti-virus/malware/spyware software on my linux machines, I have never thought about, but last week I switched my desktop over to Mint from XP, and wasn't sure what security measures are needed, I wasn't ever really concerned about the CNC's, but now with my desktop, it got me wondering. Thanks Rick -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Way OT: Cannot see Workgroup Computers
Command line work in the shop would never happen, I'm pretty sure they would tell me to get F$%*ed, and go sit in the break room ;) The router issue wasn't a big deal, I was leery from the start due to the quickbooks issue, I didn't want to reboot the router because I know it kicks her out of her session, luckily she had to leave early yesterday so I did the reboot, and it still gave us hell this morning. I was just looking for an alternative to powering down the router was all. Rick On 03/29/2016 12:00 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 29 March 2016 11:21:05 Rick Lair wrote: > >> Late yesterday I rebooted the router and everything came back, but >> then I blew the connection to the accountants Quickbooks files on the >> server, fixed one problem, created another that took an hour to fix >> this morning, go figure,, >> >> Thanks Guys >> >> On 3/29/2016 9:17 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> Rebooting the router or computer usually fixes this issue for me. >>> >>> JT >>> >>> On 3/28/2016 8:47 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >>>> In know this is way off topic, but if anybody would possibly know, >>>> I'm sure they are floating around here somewhere, >>>> >>>> We have a small network here at the shop, roughly a dozen PC's and >>>> 4 CNC's ( my linuxcnc builds) that are all networked together, >>>> using a workgroup type setup, not a domain. Most of the time >>>> everything works fine, but randomly ( right now) when you try to >>>> look at one of the other workgroup computers, there is nothing >>>> there. On my wheezy machine I clicked on the "Network" selection, >>>> and then clicked on the "Windows Network" link, and there is >>>> nothing there. So I went back to XP machine, and went and clicked >>>> "View Workgroup Computers", and a popup box comes up after about 10 >>>> seconds that says " The list of servers for this workgroup is >>>> currently unavailable". On both machines, I can access the internet >>>> just fine, I pinged the wheezy machine from my XP machine, and >>>> everything looks fine there, so what could possibly cause it not >>>> see/display the other PC's in the network managers of either >>>> machine? > Rick, I can't help since you're using a windows mix. If you were a pure > linux house, sshfs is the bee's knee's. Once setup by installing the > sshfs bits, making a root of the tree /sshnet directory, and generating > and exchanging the ssh keys, its as simple as this 3 liner in > my /etc/rc.local. > > su gene -c "sshfs gene@shop:/ /sshnet/shop" > su gene -c "sshfs gene@lathe:/ /sshnet/lathe" > su gene -c "sshfs gene@GO704:/ /sshnet/GO704" > > And anything I have user rights to is 100% available to me here on this > machine. If I need root to do something, its as close as sudo. In fact, > my sim install here, uses the /sshnet/GO704/home/gene/linuxcnc/nc_files > directory as its nc_files directory, so I can edit from here, a file on > that machine and then go run it. That link does NOT go away if I reboot > one of those machines, or this one. No samba|cifs|nfs finickiness, it > Just Works(TM). > > I might add that because of the keys exchange, I am known instantly on > those machines without having to enter my user pw, a simple > "ssh -Y shop" > And I am logged into my home dir on the machine that runs the toy mill. > > Whats not to like? > > I outlawed winders on my property when I was still using an Amiga as my > work machine. That was in the 90's. But I've been pure linux since > about 1999 here. I don't miss the licensing headache called windows a > bit. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Way OT: Cannot see Workgroup Computers
Late yesterday I rebooted the router and everything came back, but then I blew the connection to the accountants Quickbooks files on the server, fixed one problem, created another that took an hour to fix this morning, go figure,, Thanks Guys On 3/29/2016 9:17 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Rebooting the router or computer usually fixes this issue for me. > > JT > > On 3/28/2016 8:47 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >> In know this is way off topic, but if anybody would possibly know, I'm >> sure they are floating around here somewhere, >> >> We have a small network here at the shop, roughly a dozen PC's and 4 >> CNC's ( my linuxcnc builds) that are all networked together, using a >> workgroup type setup, not a domain. Most of the time everything works >> fine, but randomly ( right now) when you try to look at one of the other >> workgroup computers, there is nothing there. On my wheezy machine I >> clicked on the "Network" selection, and then clicked on the "Windows >> Network" link, and there is nothing there. So I went back to XP machine, >> and went and clicked "View Workgroup Computers", and a popup box comes >> up after about 10 seconds that says " The list of servers for this >> workgroup is currently unavailable". On both machines, I can access the >> internet just fine, I pinged the wheezy machine from my XP machine, and >> everything looks fine there, so what could possibly cause it not >> see/display the other PC's in the network managers of either machine? >> >> > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Copying G code files from PC to PC
I had to pull the SSD that has wheezy on it, and put them back onto the Ubuntu system, due to the problems with moving files around between PC's ( the reason for this topic to begin with). Friday, the supervisor tried to copy a file out of the machine, back to his PC to look at the edits that were done during the day, and he ran into the permissional problems we have been discussing. Now that I have the SSD with Wheezy on it, in my office, I hooked it up ,and have been messing around with it to see what I could find. What I know is that, when I transferred all of the files onto this new SSD, everything "had" read/write/execute status for owner/group/others.Now as you open and edit these files, then save them, the permissions get changed to rwx for the owner, then read only for group and others. When I originally copied all the nc files to this SSD, I copied them using "select all", then copy, then just pasted them into the respective nc_files folder, then from the terminal I ran "sudo chown -R cinci12u:cinci12u nc_files", and also "sudo chmod a+rxw -R nc_files" to get the permissions set accordingly, So how do I stop the editing from changing the permissions of the files? I tried a few editors (kate, gedit, mousepad) and don't see anywhere to set anything to stop changing these. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Way OT: Cannot see Workgroup Computers
In know this is way off topic, but if anybody would possibly know, I'm sure they are floating around here somewhere, We have a small network here at the shop, roughly a dozen PC's and 4 CNC's ( my linuxcnc builds) that are all networked together, using a workgroup type setup, not a domain. Most of the time everything works fine, but randomly ( right now) when you try to look at one of the other workgroup computers, there is nothing there. On my wheezy machine I clicked on the "Network" selection, and then clicked on the "Windows Network" link, and there is nothing there. So I went back to XP machine, and went and clicked "View Workgroup Computers", and a popup box comes up after about 10 seconds that says " The list of servers for this workgroup is currently unavailable". On both machines, I can access the internet just fine, I pinged the wheezy machine from my XP machine, and everything looks fine there, so what could possibly cause it not see/display the other PC's in the network managers of either machine? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Copying G code files from PC to PC
I don't know, now you have me wondering, We do have some WiFi thumb drives, might have to play with that when they get off of the machine. Rick On 3/24/2016 2:48 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > Rick, would one of those USB flash drives w/ built in wifi work? (Sandisk > makes one, Im sure there are others.) The machine would see the USB flash > drive and you could drop files on it from another machine via the wifi? > > SMD > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com> wrote: > >> Even though all the machines have USB ports, thumb drives are just too >> easily lost, damaged, dropped in chip conveyors, etc,,, >> >> We have a few OEM controls in here that we have to use a USB on, and I >> have tried like hell to get them to tell me how to network them, with no >> luck. >> >> >> Rick >> >> > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Copying G code files from PC to PC
Even though all the machines have USB ports, thumb drives are just too easily lost, damaged, dropped in chip conveyors, etc,,, We have a few OEM controls in here that we have to use a USB on, and I have tried like hell to get them to tell me how to network them, with no luck. Rick On 03/24/2016 01:35 PM, Bengt Sjölund wrote: > Why not just use a memory stick? > > Cheers > Bengt > > Den 2016-03-24 kl. 17:53, skrev Craig Warnol: >> Not an answer to your permissions issue, but here is my solution for >> copying G code between PCs. >> >> I set up an ownCloud (https://owncloud.org/) instance on my >> server/primary desktop/workstation and run the client on my other >> machines. There is a CNC directory that is automatically synchronized >> across all my systems. This gives the added benefit of automatic >> replication, so all files are on all systems. No manual copying needed. >> Also, it keeps track of changes, so you can go back and get an older >> version of the file. Works like Dropbox, but it doesn't leave my network. >> >> Craig >> >> -- >> Transform Data into Opportunity. >> Accelerate data analysis in your applications with >> Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. >> Click to learn more. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Copying G code files from PC to PC
Hey Guys,
I just looked at the permissions of the programs in the wheezy
machine, and here is a screenshot of what they look like using he "ls
-al" command,
https://app.box.com/s/hzn5v96nrieg37fxg8h3ygxh4abypohy
I would say they are Windows Shares
As for the system, the only thing I really do is get samba configured
according to the notes I have found on the internet, pertaining to the
specific OS I am on, here are my notes for how the Ubuntu machines are
configured,
>>> From the terminal
sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
>>> Then modify
workgroup = WORKGROUP
TO
workgroup = xxx ( whatever the name is of your workgroup )
>>> Then add these lines,
name resolve order = bcast host
force user = machine --- or whatever machine you are on.
>>> Then save and exit then from the terminal,
sudo service smbd restart
And here are my notes for the Wheezy machines,
>>> From the terminal
sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
>>> Then modify in the Global Section
workgroup = WORKGROUP
TO
workgroup = Srt >>> or whatever the workgroup name is
# server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field
server string = %h server (Samba %v)
# Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section:
# WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to enable its
WINS Server
wins support = yes 1
>>> Then modify in the Authentication section,
security = user >>> actual user name
>>> Then Save,
>>> Then to restart samba,
sudo service samba restart
Then to share the folders,
On Ubuntu I just right click on the folder I want to share, select
"Properties", then select "Share", and I select all 3 check boxes under
"Share".
For Wheezy I have to add "Folder Sharing" using the following commands,
>>> To add folder sharing to the Thunar Folder Manager, run the
following commands
sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev xfce4-dev-tools
libgtk2.0-dev libthunarx-2-dev libthunar-vfs-1-dev build-essential samba
mkdir $HOME/thunar_plugin
cd $HOME/thunar_plugin
wget
http://archive.xfce.org/src/thunar-plugins/thunar-shares-plugin/0.2/thunar-shares-plugin-0.2.0.tar.gz
tar xvzf thunar-shares-plugin-0.2.0.tar.gz
cd thunar-shares-plugin-0.2.0
sed -i "s|\(thunarx-\)1|\12|g" configure{,.in}
thunar-plugin/Makefile.{am,in}
sed -i "s|get_vfs_info|get_file_info|"
libshares/libshares-util.c
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-static=no
make
sudo make install
sudo -s
export USERSHARES_DIR="/var/lib/samba/usershares"
export USERSHARES_GROUP="sambashare"
mkdir -p ${USERSHARES_DIR}
groupadd ${USERSHARES_GROUP}
chown root:${USERSHARES_GROUP} ${USERSHARES_DIR}
chmod 01770 ${USERSHARES_DIR}
>>> Add your user to the Samba group replacing "your_username":
usermod -a -G ${USERSHARES_GROUP} your_username
>>> Then edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and under [global] section paste the
following and save:
usershare path = /var/lib/samba/usershares
usershare max shares = 100
usershare allow guests = yes
usershare owner only = False
>>> Then reboot
This is how all of my machines are setup, and as I said, the Ubuntu
machines just work, we can transfer files back and forth between 2
ubuntu machines, or an Ubuntu and a Windows machine, regardless of any
editing at either end. But as for the Wheezy machines, Yesterday the
shop supervisor made a program in his office on a Windows XP machine,
and saved it directly into the nc_files folder on the lathe that I have
wheezy on, they ran that program just fine, they made some edits at the
machine to file no problem, but today, I tried to copy the edited file
out of the wheezy machine, back to my ubuntu PC in the office, and it
gave me the following,
https://app.box.com/s/mq9i7cul1ywrmi9nz2m8x698c6mhfskk
Hopefully this helps shed some light on what I am doing, and what I
can't do now,
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Thanks
Rick Lair
Superior Roll & Turning LLC
399 East Center Street
Petersburg MI, 49270
PH: 734-279-1831
FAX: 734-279-1166
www.superiorroll.com
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Re: [Emc-users] Servos and Drives
Yes, and it is scalable, That drive is loaded with so much when it comes to the control and programming aspect, it is pretty amazing everything you get for how much they charge. Rick On 3/23/2016 8:29 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Hi Rick, > > Does the drive pass the encoder pulse through to the control card? > > JT > > On 3/23/2016 7:23 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >> Hey JT, >> >> I used a 3KW system from Automation Direct on our rotary table, and it >> was a pretty seamless install/setup with linuxcnc, and for the price it >> was really reasonable. >> >> Rick >> >> On 3/23/2016 7:46 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> Does anyone have links to servo/drive suppliers in the US that have the >>> plain vanilla velocity drives that we like to use with LinuxCNC? >>> >>> Thanks >>> JT >>> >>> -- >>> Transform Data into Opportunity. >>> Accelerate data analysis in your applications with >>> Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. >>> Click to learn more. >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Servos and Drives
The I/O cable was a little messy though, I used a ZL-CBL50-1P, that had the connector for the drive end, and flying leads on the other to direct wire to my 7i70/7i71/7i49, next time I will go with the ZL-SVC-CBL50 and a ZL-RTB50. That was a whole bunch of excess little 28AWG wire floating around in my wire trays, I only needed like 8 or 10 wires out of the cable, so that left almost 40 little wires loose, tried my best to clean it up, without just cutting them off. Rick On 3/23/2016 8:28 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Hi Rick, > > I was just looking at Automation Direct, good to hear from someone that > has used them. > > Thanks > JT > > On 3/23/2016 7:23 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >> Hey JT, >> >> I used a 3KW system from Automation Direct on our rotary table, and it >> was a pretty seamless install/setup with linuxcnc, and for the price it >> was really reasonable. >> >> Rick >> >> On 3/23/2016 7:46 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> Does anyone have links to servo/drive suppliers in the US that have the >>> plain vanilla velocity drives that we like to use with LinuxCNC? >>> >>> Thanks >>> JT >>> >>> -- >>> Transform Data into Opportunity. >>> Accelerate data analysis in your applications with >>> Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. >>> Click to learn more. >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Servos and Drives
Hey JT, I used a 3KW system from Automation Direct on our rotary table, and it was a pretty seamless install/setup with linuxcnc, and for the price it was really reasonable. Rick On 3/23/2016 7:46 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Does anyone have links to servo/drive suppliers in the US that have the > plain vanilla velocity drives that we like to use with LinuxCNC? > > Thanks > JT > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] SSH Setup
Hello All, I have been trying to setup sbackup on my wheezy machine, and cannot get the remote backup to my pc in the office to work properly, mainly due to not getting ssh setup properly. Attached is a link to a screenshot of the setup page. On my Ubuntu machines, I clicked the "Use a remote site" button, and manually entered the following "ssh://testpc:password@testpc.local/home/testpc/backup/10vc/" and it setup first shot, no problems. On the wheezy machine, it pops up the box that is on the right of the screenshot, and I am not 100% sure what to enter in the "Hostname" and "Path" boxes. I have tried everything I could think of for both, IP address and testpc.local for the hostname, and all kinds of variety in the path box, but no luck. Here is the link, https://app.box.com/s/ppf2ax6xdqo4fmmz6l3mi503f21mofys Any thoughts? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Stake in ball screw Cincinnati Arrow
Aaaa, that makes sense then, Rick On 2/29/2016 8:25 AM, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: > A note on German wiring from the early 1990's. At that time the Green > Party came in and pushed fro higher recycling. Many manufacturers went > with a higher recycled content in their wire insulation to meet the edict. > Mercedes Benz was one of the earliest hit by this change. Harness in the > W124 line of vehicles in 1993-1995, were failing after 2 years in service. > The recycled content made the covering brittle with exposure to heat in the > near term and generally shorter lifetimes. Sounds like this hit machine > parts as well from that era. > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Gregg Eshelman <g_ala...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 2/27/2016 8:04 AM, Dave Cole wrote: >>> The nut and screw are matched to each other and then they fit the nut to >>> the screw with the proper sized balls. >>> Usually they are purchased together as a set and you really don't want >>> to take them apart unless it is necessary. >>> You can have screws reground - I think that Thompson and Nook others do >>> that in the US. >>> I suspect that if you have a "standard" screw you might be able to fit a >>> new nut to it, but then if the nut is shot, generally the screw also >>> needs help. >>> So what usually needs to be done is that the nut and screw need to be >>> reconditioned as a set. >>> I worked on a machine that had a bad screw and they got a quote from >>> Thompson or Nook to have the screw and nut reconditioned and I think it >>> was about half what a new >>> set would have cost. >> Some of them have every other ball slightly smaller as a spacer to >> reduce turning friction. Unfortunately that also cuts load capacity. >> What some rebuilders do is replace all the balls with ones of the full >> size, or if the screw has to be ground more than usual they'll install >> larger than original balls. >> >> If you have a screw with even wear along its length and a willingness to >> experiment, and precise way to measure ball diameter, you can buy new >> balls on eBay real cheap. Choose some just a smidge larger than what was >> in it and see if the screw tightens up, without binding. >> >> There's probably some formula to select the ball size required based on >> measuring backlash etc, but the balls are cheap enough to buy more than >> one size. >> >> What I'd like to see is a precision and accuracy test of a new ground >> ball screw VS a high grade rolled ball screw VS a rebuilt with full >> grind rolled ball screw. >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >> -- >> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance >> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month >> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now >> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > -- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Stake in ball screw Cincinnati Arrow
You are seeing pretty much exactly the same issues that I was having with both of my machines, you have the A2100 control, and that was the fault that I was getting on my machine, before I replaced the cables. That is definitely physical damage on the X axis cable, but the damage I am talking about is not visible,( someone step in if I botch this up) the insulation "breaks" down electrically, and as I take it, the drive senses this somehow, and shuts down. On our machine with the 850SX, we always saw X axis faults, when it was the Y or the Z being the fault, reason being, due to how the drive ready chain of logic in the drives was wired, it always saw the X drive as being faulted first. Your machine is a carbon copy of my Sabre, in respect to drives and controls. Rick On 2/26/2016 2:09 PM, Forum Deswysen wrote: > I asked for your help because I had an axis error "CR_AXES_RDY" > that caused the shutdown of the machine: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NSFlVNFZ6OFFpOGc > > Before we heard creaking on the screw axis Z ??? > Therefore first I thought of a default of the screw. > It's not that. > > The servo failure comes and disappears after several cycles of the machine > ... > > Today for the re-started I removed the C3 logic supply connector on the > drive X: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NenExalJrM09ienc > > I do not understand where this intermittent failure? > > I want to know before purchasing new engines for linuxcnc > > 2016-02-26 19:59 GMT+01:00 Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>: > >> What error are you getting on the control, what is the machine actually >> doing? >> >> I have the Sabre 750 which is a 1995 and has the A2100 control, and we >> also have a Lancer 1250 with the 850SX control, which is from 1996, the >> Sabre has the Kollmorgen drive package, and the Lancer has the Red Cap >> Fanuc drive package. On both machines I have had to replace all of the >> servo motor power cables due to the wire insulation breaking down >> internally, constant servo drive failures, ON BOTH MACHINES, I had all >> the kollmorgen drives gone through, ( the problem started on the >> kollmorgens, then it started on the Fanucs) thinking that those were the >> problem, before I got my insulation resistance tester out and checked >> the cables, sure enough the cables were bad, and I ordered an entire >> spool of cable and replaced all of them. >> >> Have not had a single problem in over 2 1/2 years with either machine >> since I did that. >> >> Rick >> >> >> On 2/26/2016 1:46 PM, Forum Deswysen wrote: >>> I'm going to do tests with a comparator in the motor spindle. >>> Perfect, I no difference. >>> So all is well with the ball screw !!! >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NNGdkYmo4WHRSSXM >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NanpxT1hzaGxsYTg >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8Nb2s5RmxyN2xMUm8 >>> >>> The tolerance in the screw maybe just engine braking since the machine >>> was stopped >>> and the head placed on its transport support. >>> >>> Where does my axis error ??? >>> This is an intermittent fault >>> Not happy with this because I failed I could not complete an order for a >>> customer! >>> I had to do the subcontract. >>> >>> 2016-02-26 17:45 GMT+01:00 Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>: >>> >>>> With about 95% certainty, all the milacron, lathes and machining >>>> centers, the ball nuts all sit in and bolt to the mounting block ( we >>>> have at least a dozen Cincinnati Milacron machines, mix of lathes and >>>> mills, from 1978 to 1996, and they all have the same configuration, and >>>> I have worked on all of them). Usually 4-6 bolts on both the block and >>>> the nut cartridge. >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> On 2/26/2016 11:39 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >>>>> On 02/26/2016 08:00 AM, Forum Deswysen wrote: >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NSDhCTmpsWkk3aVU >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> This 3rd picture seems to show you indicating you can rock >>>>> the screw forward/backward by 10 degrees. This would seem >>>>> to indicate wear and looseness in the ballnut, or possibly >>>>> in the mounting of the nut. it appears the block the nut >>>>> sits in is NOT the actual ballnut, but a mount for it. So, >>>>> you might see if the ballnut is no longer fir
Re: [Emc-users] Stake in ball screw Cincinnati Arrow
What error are you getting on the control, what is the machine actually doing? I have the Sabre 750 which is a 1995 and has the A2100 control, and we also have a Lancer 1250 with the 850SX control, which is from 1996, the Sabre has the Kollmorgen drive package, and the Lancer has the Red Cap Fanuc drive package. On both machines I have had to replace all of the servo motor power cables due to the wire insulation breaking down internally, constant servo drive failures, ON BOTH MACHINES, I had all the kollmorgen drives gone through, ( the problem started on the kollmorgens, then it started on the Fanucs) thinking that those were the problem, before I got my insulation resistance tester out and checked the cables, sure enough the cables were bad, and I ordered an entire spool of cable and replaced all of them. Have not had a single problem in over 2 1/2 years with either machine since I did that. Rick On 2/26/2016 1:46 PM, Forum Deswysen wrote: > I'm going to do tests with a comparator in the motor spindle. > Perfect, I no difference. > So all is well with the ball screw !!! > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NNGdkYmo4WHRSSXM > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NanpxT1hzaGxsYTg > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8Nb2s5RmxyN2xMUm8 > > The tolerance in the screw maybe just engine braking since the machine > was stopped > and the head placed on its transport support. > > Where does my axis error ??? > This is an intermittent fault > Not happy with this because I failed I could not complete an order for a > customer! > I had to do the subcontract. > > 2016-02-26 17:45 GMT+01:00 Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>: > >> With about 95% certainty, all the milacron, lathes and machining >> centers, the ball nuts all sit in and bolt to the mounting block ( we >> have at least a dozen Cincinnati Milacron machines, mix of lathes and >> mills, from 1978 to 1996, and they all have the same configuration, and >> I have worked on all of them). Usually 4-6 bolts on both the block and >> the nut cartridge. >> >> Rick >> >> On 2/26/2016 11:39 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >>> On 02/26/2016 08:00 AM, Forum Deswysen wrote: >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NSDhCTmpsWkk3aVU >>>> >>>> >>> This 3rd picture seems to show you indicating you can rock >>> the screw forward/backward by 10 degrees. This would seem >>> to indicate wear and looseness in the ballnut, or possibly >>> in the mounting of the nut. it appears the block the nut >>> sits in is NOT the actual ballnut, but a mount for it. So, >>> you might see if the ballnut is no longer firmly mounted >>> inside that mount. Some nuts are threaded on the outside, >>> and screw into a threaded hole in the mounting block. Then, >>> there needs to be something that locks the nut into the mount. >>> >>> Others are bolted to the mount. These bolts could have >>> loosened, possibly by stretching. if loose, you might >>> replace the bolts. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >> -- >>> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance >>> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month >>> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now >>> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> -- >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Rick Lair >> Superior Roll & Turning LLC >> 399 East Center Street >> Petersburg MI, 49270 >> PH: 734-279-1831 >> FAX: 734-279-1166 >> www.superiorroll.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance >> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month >> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now >> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > -
Re: [Emc-users] Stake in ball screw Cincinnati Arrow
With about 95% certainty, all the milacron, lathes and machining centers, the ball nuts all sit in and bolt to the mounting block ( we have at least a dozen Cincinnati Milacron machines, mix of lathes and mills, from 1978 to 1996, and they all have the same configuration, and I have worked on all of them). Usually 4-6 bolts on both the block and the nut cartridge. Rick On 2/26/2016 11:39 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/26/2016 08:00 AM, Forum Deswysen wrote: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NSDhCTmpsWkk3aVU >> >> > This 3rd picture seems to show you indicating you can rock > the screw forward/backward by 10 degrees. This would seem > to indicate wear and looseness in the ballnut, or possibly > in the mounting of the nut. it appears the block the nut > sits in is NOT the actual ballnut, but a mount for it. So, > you might see if the ballnut is no longer firmly mounted > inside that mount. Some nuts are threaded on the outside, > and screw into a threaded hole in the mounting block. Then, > there needs to be something that locks the nut into the mount. > > Others are bolted to the mount. These bolts could have > loosened, possibly by stretching. if loose, you might > replace the bolts. > > Jon > > -- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Stake in ball screw Cincinnati Arrow
No we have never had any issues like this, that is why I would be looking at the mounting of the physical ball nut and mounting block, It doesn't appear to have any taper pins, just 4 bolts to attach the mounting block the the casting, and 4 bolts to mount the cartridge into the mounting block. The nut could be worn and need rebuilt as andy has said, but the pictures show not too much wear and tear in and around the ball screw area. Rick On 2/26/2016 10:15 AM, Forum Deswysen wrote: > For everyone, > > Thank you I'll watch carefully. > > For Rick Lair, > > Have you ever had this problem with your Sabre 750 ? > > 2016-02-26 16:03 GMT+01:00 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>: > >> On 26 February 2016 at 14:00, Forum Deswysen <forum.deswy...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> *Can someone** tell me if this nut **is adjustable ???* >> It doesn't look likely to be. >> >> The first place I would be looking would be at the screw thrust >> bearings, though. >> >> -- >> atp >> If you can't fix it, you don't own it. >> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto >> >> >> -- >> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance >> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month >> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now >> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > -- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Stake in ball screw Cincinnati Arrow
If this is any help, here is a link to a copy of our Sabre 750 Z axis ball screw layout, your machine looks identical to our machine. https://app.box.com/s/tt0favgpkqrvd0e6uisglg0p6jutdoh4 Rick On 2/26/2016 9:00 AM, Forum Deswysen wrote: > Hello Andy, > > Thank you for this additional information. > > *Can someone** tell me if this nut **is adjustable ???* > > Some pictures of the problem: > > To have no more weight on the screw, the head of the machine is placed on > its transport support > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NOS1CdldvSi1MbzQ > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NS0Q5VDBvY3pGVjA > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NSDhCTmpsWkk3aVU > > Best regards, > > Pierre > > 2016-02-26 10:32 GMT+01:00 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>: > >> On 26 February 2016 at 06:02, Forum Deswysen <forum.deswy...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Yes that's it. >> Don't ignore the possibility that the backlash/ slack might be in the >> ballscrew bearings. >> >> Depending on the style of the ball-nut, it might be possible to adjust >> the backlash. >> >> Isel make adjustable ball-nuts: >> http://www.techno-isel.com/lmc/Products/BmNuts.htm >> If you have them, then you just need to adjust them. >> >> Often the ball-nuts are a back-to-back pair with a spacer to set the >> backlash/preload. If yours is like this, perhaps the clamping screws >> have loosened. >> If the screws are still tight then you might be able to grind / lap >> the spacer to remove the backlash. >> >> If the ballnut/screw is a single piece then the options are >> replacement or rebuilding with oversized balls. If the slack varies >> with position the then wear is uneven, and oversized balls won't work. >> This Amazon seller lists balls in very small increments around the nominal >> size >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Ballscrew-Screw-Balls-0-1244-mm3-1597/dp/B0070I6824/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8=1456479041=8-19=precision+balls+ballscrew >> There are videos on Youtube showing how to re-ball a ballnut. >> >> -- >> atp >> If you can't fix it, you don't own it. >> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto >> >> >> -- >> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance >> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month >> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now >> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > -- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Stake in ball screw Cincinnati Arrow
Is the ball nut mounting block solidly attached to the back of the main spindle casting? There are probably 4-6 10mm or 12mm bolts, and 2 taper pins that attach the mounting block to the spindle casting, maybe the pins are sheared and the screws loose. Unless the mounting block is part of the casting, and the ball nut is in a cartridge that bolts/drops into the mounting block. That sounds/looks like a lot of backlash to be in nut alone. On 2/26/2016 9:00 AM, Forum Deswysen wrote: > Hello Andy, > > Thank you for this additional information. > > *Can someone** tell me if this nut **is adjustable ???* > > Some pictures of the problem: > > To have no more weight on the screw, the head of the machine is placed on > its transport support > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NOS1CdldvSi1MbzQ > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NS0Q5VDBvY3pGVjA > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5hmBjm5ot8NSDhCTmpsWkk3aVU > > Best regards, > > Pierre > > 2016-02-26 10:32 GMT+01:00 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>: > >> On 26 February 2016 at 06:02, Forum Deswysen <forum.deswy...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Yes that's it. >> Don't ignore the possibility that the backlash/ slack might be in the >> ballscrew bearings. >> >> Depending on the style of the ball-nut, it might be possible to adjust >> the backlash. >> >> Isel make adjustable ball-nuts: >> http://www.techno-isel.com/lmc/Products/BmNuts.htm >> If you have them, then you just need to adjust them. >> >> Often the ball-nuts are a back-to-back pair with a spacer to set the >> backlash/preload. If yours is like this, perhaps the clamping screws >> have loosened. >> If the screws are still tight then you might be able to grind / lap >> the spacer to remove the backlash. >> >> If the ballnut/screw is a single piece then the options are >> replacement or rebuilding with oversized balls. If the slack varies >> with position the then wear is uneven, and oversized balls won't work. >> This Amazon seller lists balls in very small increments around the nominal >> size >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Ballscrew-Screw-Balls-0-1244-mm3-1597/dp/B0070I6824/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8=1456479041=8-19=precision+balls+ballscrew >> There are videos on Youtube showing how to re-ball a ballnut. >> >> -- >> atp >> If you can't fix it, you don't own it. >> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto >> >> >> -- >> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance >> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month >> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now >> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > -- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] MPG Handwheel for use with 7i73
This is mainly directed at PCW, but after looking at this, http://www.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-Pulse-Generator-4-Axis-MPG-Pendant-Handwheel-Emergency-Stop-for-Siemens-FAGOR-GSK/2009058806.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.ZvKjv2_ab_test=searchweb201556_6,searchweb201644_2_505_506_503_504_502_10014_10001_10002_10016_10005_10006_10003_10004,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6449=3161ee1c-584a-403d-94ec-f8a52a7c24f0 Will this be an acceptable handwheel to use with a 7i73? It says - Required 5V+, 150mA, power for MPG - Phase output is A ,/A and B,/B; - TTL output, drive capability +-20mA; Not sure about the "TTL" part -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought
How bout these, I know that they aren't solid state, but I use them every where. http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Relays_-z-_Timers/Electro-Mechanical_Relays/Slim_-z-_Card_Relays,_5A_(RS_Series)/RS4N-DE Rick On 1/22/2016 9:37 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 January 2016 at 14:25, John Thornton <j...@gnipsel.com> wrote: >> Do you need some kind of special base for the OPTO-22's? > I don't particularly want to be soldering wires to the legs and > fastening them to the contol board with double-sided tape, no. > > I think that one of these will do the trick: > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231742556113 > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?
Hello Wayde, Here is a 1984 Cincinnati Milacron 10VC-1000 that I just finished, it has a siemens package in it. https://youtu.be/JINL4n-A4D0 Here is another link, http://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/show-your-stuff/29904-1984-cincinnati-milacron-vmc-with-4th-axis One of the guys using Linuxcnc, Pete Matos, has a newer Cinci VMC than ours, that most likely has the kollmorgen package on it, ( unless he switched them to something else) running Linuxcnc. Rick On 1/13/2016 12:41 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 13 January 2016 at 17:26, Wayde Allen <wayde.al...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I just joined the email list since I'm wondering about using Linux CNC to >> retrofit the control system on an old Cincinnati/Milacron CNC system. > LinuxCNC has been controlling at least one Cincinnati mill for several years. > Quite a big one: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxxdq6y8z8M > > > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?
I guess I should dig out the schematics for our machine, but I don't believe it would be anything special, other than the resolver feedback out of the drive to the control, I am not sure they have resolver feedback out of the drive, or if they were tying in parallel to the drive for the position feedback. Rick On 1/13/2016 12:26 PM, Wayde Allen wrote: > I just joined the email list since I'm wondering about using Linux CNC to > retrofit the control system on an old Cincinnati/Milacron CNC system. The > motor control amplifier for these machines seems to be a Kollmorgen BDS4. > Has anyone here created an interface to one of these? > > Is Linux CNC a decent option for replacing the old control computer on one > of these beasts for use in a low volume production environment? > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?
Aaaa, most of these style machines, I have always seen the kollmorgen's on. They did use a mixed bag though of controls and motors/drives on these machines. Rick On 1/13/2016 4:05 PM, Pete Matos wrote: >I have a Cincinatti Arrow 500 VMC that I have retrofit. It runs on > linuxCNC of course and it works quite well altho I am still not using the > toolchanger yet it is not implemented thus far. However it runs almost > daily when I have work for it and has been very reliable. It had the > emerson control techniques control system on it when I bought it but after > several expensive repairs I scrapped it, gutted the machine electronically > and installed all brand new AC servos, motors, and drives as well as the > MESANET 5i25/7i77 combo boards. I replaced almost everything in the > electronics cabinet and the machine runs entirely on single phase. The > spindle is a 10hp and I am using a Hitachi WJ200-110 LF drive for the > spindle. I chose to loose all the old electronics and wiring in the > interests of both lower cost and increased reliability. I know that Mesanet > cards that I am using can power and control industrial servos and drives > but I am not familiar with the kollmorgan drives so I cannot really help > you. Good luck with your retrofit. > > Pete > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote: > >> On 01/13/2016 11:26 AM, Wayde Allen wrote: >>> I just joined the email list since I'm wondering about using Linux CNC to >>> retrofit the control system on an old Cincinnati/Milacron CNC system. The >>> motor control amplifier for these machines seems to be a Kollmorgen BDS4. >>> Has anyone here created an interface to one of these? >> This is an analog velocity servo amp. Pico Systems and Mesa >> have interfaces that should be able to control such a servo amp. >>> Is Linux CNC a decent option for replacing the old control computer on >> one >>> of these beasts for use in a low volume production environment? >>> >> Yes. If it is a simple XYZ machine with spindle, it should >> be pretty easy. Adding rigid tapping is also pretty simple >> if there is an existing spindle encoder. If it has a tool >> changer, that gets a bit more complicated, as every machine >> does it just a bit differently. If it has a gear change >> system, there are a few ways to do that in LinuxCNC. >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance >> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month >> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now >> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140 >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?
Hello Wayde There is a guy on here, Pete Matos, that has a Cinci VMC that most likely has the kollmorgen package on, we have an identical mill to his, but ours still has the A2100 control on it. Here is our older, 1984, Cinci, using siemens motors, with some video of it in action. http://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/show-your-stuff/29904-1984-cincinnati-milacron-vmc-with-4th-axis Rick On 1/13/2016 12:41 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 13 January 2016 at 17:26, Wayde Allen <wayde.al...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I just joined the email list since I'm wondering about using Linux CNC to >> retrofit the control system on an old Cincinnati/Milacron CNC system. > LinuxCNC has been controlling at least one Cincinnati mill for several years. > Quite a big one: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxxdq6y8z8M > > > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Stepper Motors/Drives
Hey Guys, I have never dealt with stepper motors/drives and one of the guys at our shop is kicking around converting and old 9x30 Southbend lathe to cnc using Linuxcnc. Are there any recommendations on maybe some kits with all the power stuff (motors, power supplies, cables, etc,) that anybody recommends. I am up in the air on the control hardware, but I can handle that, I just don't know where to start on sizing/selecting the stepper stuff. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anyone have a small piece of 15/64" drill rod?
Gregg, Mcmaster Carr has some that are 3 7/8" long, High-Speed M2 Tool Steel, http://www.mcmaster.com/#3009a182/=10c3bni, but for a dollar or so more you you can get a piece of O-1 36" long. Rick On 12/21/2015 7:39 AM, Dale Ertley wrote: > Try McmasterCarr.com > > On Monday, December 21, 2015 5:58 AM, Sarah Armstrong > <sarahj.armstron...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > theirs one thing Andy , if you called , you'd never leave ! LOL > theirs always a cuppa on hand too > > dont take any notice of the stock list , it's always wrong , theirs More !! > (arh ! yes the borer the reminants of having to work with Steam !! ) and > still do . > > > > > On 21 December 2015 at 10:47, andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 21 December 2015 at 10:11, Sarah Armstrong >> <sarahj.armstron...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> m-machine-metals.co.uk >> After fossicking about in their web site, it turns out that they have >> a horizontal boring machine, just like the one my dad has. >> >> (Kearns S-type with the facing chuck) >> >> -- >> atp >> If you can't fix it, you don't own it. >> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Webchat
Does anyone know, is the linuxcnc irc webchat down right now? I keep getting time out errors trying open it up. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741911=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Webchat
Hey Jeff, Which client do you use? Also I am finding more things out about my 4th axis, and none of it makes sense. Rick On 11/30/2015 10:41 AM, Jeff Epler wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:33:38AM -0500, Rick Lair wrote: >> Does anyone know, is the linuxcnc irc webchat down right now? >> >> I keep getting time out errors trying open it up. > If you mean https://webchat.freenode.net/ that is a URL outside our > control. > > I am connected to IRC right now with a traditional desktop client and > that works fine, but the above URL seems to be down for me as well. > > I found Freenode Staff's twitter account says on November 27 that they > were experiencing a DDos attack. The top of the #freenode channel > implies that this is still ongoing. This may be why webchat is > disabled or not working. > https://twitter.com/freenodestaff > > Jeff > > -- > Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK > Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. > Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. > Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741911=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741911=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Trouble with 4th axis
It's an "integrated" encoder, ( 2500 ppr incremental attached to the end of the servo) here is the servo, http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Servo_Systems/Medium_Inertia_(1KW_-_3KW)_Servo_Systems/3KW_Servo_System_(Med_Inertia)/SVM-230 I just found the /A and /B were interchanged, ( the wires coming from the drive are coming out of a 50 conductor cable, 28 AWG wire, with the poorest color scheme possible to differentiate the wires, they were RED/WHITE for the /A and WHITE/RED for the /B ) I have found though, I cannot see the index-enable signal doing anything in halscope? And I just triple checked those two little bastards. No Z-/Z index signal could be an issue maybe in the grand scheme of things Maybe a firmware issue? Rick On 11/25/2015 10:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 25 November 2015 08:59:45 Rick Lair wrote: > >> Here is a screenshot of what it looks like, after the machine has >> homed itself, http://postimg.org/image/c8s8eqret/ look at the DTG of >> the A axis, why does it look like this, and why would it take off as >> soon as it homes itself, to some random position, like the one shown, >> at MAX_VELOCITY? > If thats a servo, what sort of an encoder? > > I run my cheap table with a stepper, so no encoder involved. If I > do "home it", its to a level bubble laying on a jaw, but I use touchoff > for that zero. Handy for establishing the roughly correct angles to > turn a tool to for sharpening. That does not of course handle its > backlash and I have no automatic facility to lock it down at any > particular angle except the cheap brass thumbscrew, which is in fact > incapable of holding it. >> To me it is acting like a run away servo, but that makes no sense to >> me, because after going over things multiple times and physically >> checking the analog drive voltage and the servo drive parameters >> again, I don't see how I can get a runaway. >> >> If I jog the table, in a positive rotation, I have a positive command >> voltage going to the drive, I get a positive table rotation physically >> and I get an upward counting DRO, > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741551=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Trouble with 4th axis
I did change that to positive, and the only thing different was it was reading backwards. On 11/24/2015 2:55 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > What happens if you change your encoder scale from: > ENCODER_SCALE = -5000 > to: > ENCODER_SCALE = 5000 > > If this makes it behave better (but maybe backwards) you may want to switch > the wiring of your encoder feed back to switch direction. > > - Original Message - > From: r...@superiorroll.com > To: "Emc Users" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:23:54 PM > Subject: [Emc-users] Trouble with 4th axis > > Hello guys, working on my 4th axis, and I am starting to feel quite > lost, > > I was figuring that this would be the easier of all the other work I > have done with this stuff, due to working with a brand spanking new > servo and drive, but has turned into a nightmare for me. > > I have the axis running, I can control it with my hand-wheel MPG, it > homes ( if that's what you want to call it ) and and after tuning the > servo to the drive, I don't think there would be any tuning involved on > the linuxcnc side, if the Following Error was even understandable. > > For starters, when I start up linuxcnc, and I press the "home all" > button, the rotary goes through the motions of the following homing > sequence in the link using inserted values on the image > > http://postimg.org/image/yxzcdwldx/ > > > And does set the "0" position, but then it takes off at max velocity, > and stops at some random value ( 1255, 159, 1800 ) always in the > positive direction, and not repeatable, and then says that it is homed ( > No clue ). > > As for the following error, pretty much it is telling me that whatever > the DRO is displaying, it is telling me that the following error is the > inverse of the display, if it says that I am at 259.354 degrees, I will > have a following error of -259.354. I tried to make a few G01 > commands, and it does begin movement if I give it a position to go to, > but it does not stop at the dimension programmed, and in the DTG column, > it is just displaying whatever the "actual" position is not a distance > to go. > > > Here are my config details from my hal file and my ini, > http://pastebin.com/WT8fMkvY > > Any thoughts of help will be greatly appreciated > -- > > Thanks > > > Rick Lair > Superior Roll & Turning LLC > 399 East Center Street > Petersburg MI, 49270 > PH: 734-279-1831 > FAX: 734-279-1166 > www.superiorroll.com > > -- > Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK > Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. > Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. > Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741551=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- > Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK > Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. > Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. > Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741551=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741551=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Trouble with 4th axis
Here is a screenshot of what it looks like, after the machine has homed itself, http://postimg.org/image/c8s8eqret/ look at the DTG of the A axis, why does it look like this, and why would it take off as soon as it homes itself, to some random position, like the one shown, at MAX_VELOCITY? To me it is acting like a run away servo, but that makes no sense to me, because after going over things multiple times and physically checking the analog drive voltage and the servo drive parameters again, I don't see how I can get a runaway. If I jog the table, in a positive rotation, I have a positive command voltage going to the drive, I get a positive table rotation physically and I get an upward counting DRO, -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741551=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Add another "servo_thread" to my config
PCW did say that, " One thing to remember is that read-time is in CPU clocks" I just performed the sudo ethtool -C eth2 rx-usecs 0 command, and it definitely helped, now it is down around .25ms so far as I can tell. Rick On 11/16/2015 11:22 AM, sam sokolik wrote: > Isn't that in clock cycles? (not ns) > > On 11/16/2015 10:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: >> On 16 November 2015 at 16:13, John Kasunich <jmkasun...@fastmail.fm> wrote: >>>> hm2_7i80.0.read.time is running between .87ms-1.2ms. >>> That's pretty horrible. >> It sounds it, but I am not sure what is normal for an ethernet-connected >> board. >> > > -- > Presto, an open source distributed SQL query engine for big data, initially > developed by Facebook, enables you to easily query your data on Hadoop in a > more interactive manner. Teradata is also now providing full enterprise > support for Presto. Download a free open source copy now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=250295911=/4140 > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Presto, an open source distributed SQL query engine for big data, initially developed by Facebook, enables you to easily query your data on Hadoop in a more interactive manner. Teradata is also now providing full enterprise support for Presto. Download a free open source copy now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=250295911=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Add another "servo_thread" to my config
Thank You, On 11/16/2015 9:01 AM, Dewey Garrett wrote: >> What would the halcmd command be to show the max time for each loaded >> component? > for current execution time: > $ halcmd show pin \*time > > for max execution time: > $ halcmd show param \*tmax -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Presto, an open source distributed SQL query engine for big data, initially developed by Facebook, enables you to easily query your data on Hadoop in a more interactive manner. Teradata is also now providing full enterprise support for Presto. Download a free open source copy now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=250295911=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Add another "servo_thread" to my config
Good morning Guys, Just polishing up my build, and noticed a problem late Friday, I was randomly noticing some weird things happening in regards to my ladder logic, and looked at every thing regarding the ladder logic, even re-writing multiple rungs to see if maybe I had a programming error. What I found is, is my servo_thread is set at 2,500,000 ns and my ladder is peaking at 3,400,000 to 3,500,000 ns. So do I just make my servo_thread bigger, or add another "ladder_thread", just for my ladder program, then chisel down the servo_thread to what it needs to function properly? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Presto, an open source distributed SQL query engine for big data, initially developed by Facebook, enables you to easily query your data on Hadoop in a more interactive manner. Teradata is also now providing full enterprise support for Presto. Download a free open source copy now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=250295911=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Add another "servo_thread" to my config
When using the load rt threads component, I don't need to add anything to my INI do I? Rick On 11/16/2015 7:26 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 16 November 2015 at 12:11, Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com> wrote: > >> What I found is, is my servo_thread is set at 2,500,000 ns and my ladder >> is peaking at 3,400,000 to 3,500,000 ns. > Are you sure about those numbers? > > 1,000,000 bS (1mS) is a common servo thread rate. Sometimes there is > an advantage in going lower, but if Ladder is taking 3.5mS it sounds > like something unusual is happening. > > You could try turning on base_thread_fp then running ladder in a 10mS > "servo-thread" and other stuff in a 1mS "base-thread" with FP enabled. > I am not sure what that would do your traj-period, though. > > It is possible to have up to three threads, so it might be better to > add a "loadrt threads" after the loadrt motmod line in the HAL, and > create your new, slower, thread that way. > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/threads.9.html > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Presto, an open source distributed SQL query engine for big data, initially developed by Facebook, enables you to easily query your data on Hadoop in a more interactive manner. Teradata is also now providing full enterprise support for Presto. Download a free open source copy now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=250295911=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)
I was wondering more about these pins, 21 bit IN FALSE axis.3.is-unlocked 21 bit OUT FALSE axis.3.unlock The servo setup isn't the issue, I already have that stuff in my INI/HAL files, I was just wondering about those pins mentioned, if they will take care of making sure that the table is un-clamped at the right times for just positioning and for contouring. The table is hydraulically clamped and unclamped, with feedback limit switches for each position, and there is a home position switch. That was going to be my next question, how to handle the homing sequence if we are not using the rotary axis. I was going to make up 2 configurations, one with the rotary, one without. I am going with Automation Direct for the servo and drive, http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Servo_Systems/Medium_Inertia_(1KW_-_3KW)_Servo_Systems/3KW_Servo_System_(Med_Inertia)/SVA-2300 . Using the servo with no brake. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)
To each his own,,, The servo and drive will be here Tuesday, so it will be busy busy after that, we have a job coming in already, that requires the 4th axis. Always Fun ;) On 11/13/2015 1:22 PM, Bruce Layne wrote: > Hey Rick! Your 500 pound 4th axis weighs more than Gene's G0704 milling > machine! > > > > On 11/13/2015 12:41 PM, Rick Lair wrote: >> Here is a twin to our unit that I am fitting up. >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsudakoma-12-6-inch-RNCM-301R-4th-axis-power-rotary-table-/261732300386 >> >> >> >> On 11/13/2015 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Your table is apparently a couple thousand dollars better than mine, >>> which has a brass thumbscrew for locking, and which doesn't begin to >>> exert sufficient force to actually lock it. > > -- > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)
Here is a twin to our unit that I am fitting up. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsudakoma-12-6-inch-RNCM-301R-4th-axis-power-rotary-table-/261732300386 On 11/13/2015 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 13 November 2015 10:55:18 Rick Lair wrote: > >> I was wondering more about these pins, >> >> 21 bit IN FALSE axis.3.is-unlocked >> 21 bit OUT FALSE axis.3.unlock >> >> The servo setup isn't the issue, I already have that stuff in my >> INI/HAL files, I was just wondering about those pins mentioned, if >> they will take care of making sure that the table is un-clamped at the >> right times for just positioning and for contouring. The table is >> hydraulically clamped and unclamped, with feedback limit switches for >> each position, and there is a home position switch. >> > Your table is apparently a couple thousand dollars better than mine, > which has a brass thumbscrew for locking, and which doesn't begin to > exert sufficient force to actually lock it. > >> That was going to be my next question, how to handle the homing >> sequence if we are not using the rotary axis. I was going to make up 2 >> configurations, one with the rotary, one without. > I just zero mine along with the rest as theres no home switches on my > toy. 2 more mouse clicks. > >> I am going with Automation Direct for the servo and drive, >> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Se >> rvo_Systems/Medium_Inertia_(1KW_-_3KW)_Servo_Systems/3KW_Servo_System_( >> Med_Inertia)/SVA-2300 . Using the servo with no brake. > In that event, I'd tie those signals to control the hydraulics to those > signals from motion that you quoted. Hardware details are up to you, > like how to control the valves that do the lock/unlock of the table. > > Thats an open collector signal on pin 21? Both on the same interface pin > strongly suggests it is, so that it can be read as an input also. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] 4th Axis (rotary axis)
Hello Guys, Does anyone know in the documentation where to get any info on setting up my rotary axis, I can't find any thing in the manuals on how to get it connected properly, without doing a bunch of excess programming. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Call an M Code from a Classic ladder output
I did answer my own question, I added a dwell time, then called the m39 from the m40, using subroutines. John, I am not sure how to use the M6 command to put the currently loaded tool away, back into the carousel. I am just doing this that way if the operator knows he needs to shut linuxcnc down, he can put the loaded tool away, and start it back up, without a tool in the spindle, and not confuse the hell out of the ladder logic and carousel component. I tried starting it up and using the M61QXX command, which works, but when you go to change the tool, the carousel is still sitting on pocket 1, ( haven't figured out how yet, I specify yet, to get the carousel to index to pocket XX that is set with the M61 command ) so it will try to put tool XX, into pocket 1, which would probably already have a tool in it. On 11/11/2015 8:25 AM, John Thornton wrote: > I just have to wonder why your not using iocontrol.0.tool-change and > iocontrol.0.tool-changed or am I totally off track and not understanding > the application? > > JT > > On 11/11/2015 7:13 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >> Good Morning Gentleman, >> >> Is it possible, to call an m-code using a classicladder output? >> >> Now that I have my tool changer working, I am trying to work into my >> ladder logic the ability to call a M40, and it will put the tool that is >> in the spindle back into the carousel, and then when the logic is >> finished, have classicladder call an M39. >> >> The M40 is going to "sets return-tool true", and I was going to use the >> the M39 to "sets return-tool false". Unless there is a better way to >> reset the signal without calling the M39? Really I need the M40 to pulse >> the "return-tool" signal true for maybe 3-4 tenths of a second to get >> the ladder rolling, but my original train of thought is just fine. >> >> > > -- > _______ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Call an M Code from a Classic ladder output
How will your carousel component handle that "0"? On 11/11/2015 8:42 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 11 November 2015 at 13:38, Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com> wrote: >> I am not sure how to use the M6 command to put the currently loaded tool >> away, back into the carousel. > > M6 T0 > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Call an M Code from a Classic ladder output
Good Morning Gentleman, Is it possible, to call an m-code using a classicladder output? Now that I have my tool changer working, I am trying to work into my ladder logic the ability to call a M40, and it will put the tool that is in the spindle back into the carousel, and then when the logic is finished, have classicladder call an M39. The M40 is going to "sets return-tool true", and I was going to use the the M39 to "sets return-tool false". Unless there is a better way to reset the signal without calling the M39? Really I need the M40 to pulse the "return-tool" signal true for maybe 3-4 tenths of a second to get the ladder rolling, but my original train of thought is just fine. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project
Here it is, after putting all the pieces together, and working the bugs out, I finally got the tool change working using Andy Pugh's carousel component to control the tool carousel, and a pretty healthy chunk of ladder logic to control everything else. All using Linuxcnc 2.7. Thanks for the help guys,,, https://youtu.be/HwXmZDTMeCA More video's to come -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc-dev in Synaptic when using uspace (was Carousel Component)
And there it is, Thanks Jeff, On 11/5/2015 8:32 PM, Jeff Epler wrote: > You need to look for the properly named package: > > linuxcnc-uspace-dev - PC based motion controller for real-time Linux > > -- > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] linuxcnc-dev in Synaptic when using uspace (was Carousel Component)
Not to get too far off topic on my original thread, just wondering what I need to do to get linuxcnc-dev in the Synaptic Package manager. I am running debian wheezy using 2.7-uspace, and need to be able to use halcompile to modify the carousel component. Linuxcnc-dev is not in the package manager, and I am not sure what I should insert for the deb to facilitate this. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Desktops and OS's
It was an absolute requirement that I got that to work, probably like yours, we now have multiple machines in the shop running Linuxcnc, and thumb drives are easy to lose, so I have all the machines networked together, so the guy in the office that makes the programs, can drop the finished g code program right into the nc_files folder in the respective machine, right from his desk. Rick On 11/4/2015 8:09 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Sweet, and it works! What a PITA to have to do this just to get an OS to > do basic things. I'm still hoping someone will chime in that has built a > real time kernel for Linux Mint so I can try that. > > JT > > On 11/4/2015 6:55 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >> Now you should be able to right click on the the folder icon you want >> tot share, see the "Share" tab, and be able to click down through and >> setup folder sharing on your network for that respective folder, >> >> >> >> On 11/4/2015 7:51 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> Hi Rick, >>> >>> I followed the directions for adding folder sharing to Thunar but don't >>> see any difference. What is is supposed to do? >>> >>> JT >>> >>> On 11/3/2015 9:59 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Attached are some of my notes that I have found to be working in >>>> regards to sharing over the network on Debian. >>>> >>>> You may have already tried these, but this is what I have found. >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/3/2015 10:44 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>>>> Samba is installed... >>>>> >>>>> On 11/3/2015 9:26 AM, andy pugh wrote: >>>>>> On 3 November 2015 at 15:19, John Thornton <j...@gnipsel.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Networking is also hosed up on my Debian computers and try as >>>>>>> I might I can't share files as freely around my LAN with the Debian >>>>>>> computers. >>>>>> You nay need to install Samba, it isn't there by default. I don't know >>>>>> if Avahi is or not. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Desktops and OS's
Maybe not the right place to ask, but, regarding the networking, why would randomly you not be able to see other network computers? Right now from either my winxp desktop, or my ubuntu 10.04 desktop, I can't see any of the other network computers, or my machines. Connection issues, bad hardware? Rick On 11/4/2015 8:27 AM, John Thornton wrote: > If he is doing that from a Windoze computer you can configure the right > click Send To for each machine so it's a one click op to send the file. > > JT > > On 11/4/2015 7:16 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >> It was an absolute requirement that I got that to work, probably like >> yours, we now have multiple machines in the shop running Linuxcnc, and >> thumb drives are easy to lose, so I have all the machines networked >> together, so the guy in the office that makes the programs, can drop the >> finished g code program right into the nc_files folder in the respective >> machine, right from his desk. >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> On 11/4/2015 8:09 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> Sweet, and it works! What a PITA to have to do this just to get an OS to >>> do basic things. I'm still hoping someone will chime in that has built a >>> real time kernel for Linux Mint so I can try that. >>> >>> JT >>> >>> On 11/4/2015 6:55 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >>>> Now you should be able to right click on the the folder icon you want >>>> tot share, see the "Share" tab, and be able to click down through and >>>> setup folder sharing on your network for that respective folder, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/4/2015 7:51 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>>>> Hi Rick, >>>>> >>>>> I followed the directions for adding folder sharing to Thunar but don't >>>>> see any difference. What is is supposed to do? >>>>> >>>>> JT >>>>> >>>>> On 11/3/2015 9:59 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >>>>>> John, >>>>>> >>>>>> Attached are some of my notes that I have found to be working in >>>>>> regards to sharing over the network on Debian. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may have already tried these, but this is what I have found. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/3/2015 10:44 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>>>>>> Samba is installed... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/3/2015 9:26 AM, andy pugh wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3 November 2015 at 15:19, John Thornton <j...@gnipsel.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Networking is also hosed up on my Debian computers and try as >>>>>>>>> I might I can't share files as freely around my LAN with the Debian >>>>>>>>> computers. >>>>>>>> You nay need to install Samba, it isn't there by default. I don't know >>>>>>>> if Avahi is or not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>>> -- >>>>> ___ >>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Desktops and OS's
Now you should be able to right click on the the folder icon you want tot share, see the "Share" tab, and be able to click down through and setup folder sharing on your network for that respective folder, On 11/4/2015 7:51 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Hi Rick, > > I followed the directions for adding folder sharing to Thunar but don't > see any difference. What is is supposed to do? > > JT > > On 11/3/2015 9:59 AM, Rick Lair wrote: >> John, >> >> Attached are some of my notes that I have found to be working in >> regards to sharing over the network on Debian. >> >> You may have already tried these, but this is what I have found. >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> On 11/3/2015 10:44 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> Samba is installed... >>> >>> On 11/3/2015 9:26 AM, andy pugh wrote: >>>> On 3 November 2015 at 15:19, John Thornton <j...@gnipsel.com> wrote: >>>>> Networking is also hosed up on my Debian computers and try as >>>>> I might I can't share files as freely around my LAN with the Debian >>>>> computers. >>>> You nay need to install Samba, it isn't there by default. I don't know >>>> if Avahi is or not. >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> -- >> >> >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Desktops and OS's
John, I strongly second all of that, Royal PITA. I believe I have finally gotten the network sharing aspect handled, but the printing is shot. If I need to print something off of the mill I am finishing up, that is running Debian wheezy, I have to save whatever it is to my thumb drive, and go in the office, open it up on my Ubuntu machine, then print it. Rick On 11/3/2015 10:19 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Funny you should mention that, I can't print to my network printers from > either Debian Wheezy computer but have no problem printing from Ubuntu > computers. Networking is also hosed up on my Debian computers and try as > I might I can't share files as freely around my LAN with the Debian > computers. They are just a total PITA to try and use. > > Having said all that I didn't like Ubuntu 12.4 at all, just too much > like a stupid notebook with everything hidden that you might use if you > know more than squat about a computer. > > JT > > On 11/3/2015 7:12 AM, Bruce Layne wrote: >> For example, printing > > -- > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Carousel Component
> sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-dev > I am getting an error trying this ^^ Here is the error, greenmill@greenmill:~$ sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-dev [sudo] password for greenmill: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package linuxcnc-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'linuxcnc-dev' has no installation candidate greenmill@greenmill:~$ Is this because of running uspace? Rick -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Desktops and OS's
John, Attached are some of my notes that I have found to be working in regards to sharing over the network on Debian. You may have already tried these, but this is what I have found. Rick On 11/3/2015 10:44 AM, John Thornton wrote: Samba is installed... On 11/3/2015 9:26 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 3 November 2015 at 15:19, John Thornton <j...@gnipsel.com> wrote: Networking is also hosed up on my Debian computers and try as I might I can't share files as freely around my LAN with the Debian computers. You nay need to install Samba, it isn't there by default. I don't know if Avahi is or not. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com Debian Hacks.rtf Description: MS-Word document -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Carousel Component
Is there any way to compare against that parameter, with out compiling? I am using the 2.7.1 package, not building from the command line, or will it still work the way I am using linuxcnc, modifying the comp file? On 10/30/2015 10:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 30 October 2015 at 13:49, <r...@superiorroll.com> wrote: > >> Finally got to the point of integrating the carousel component into my >> machine, and was wondering, how do I connect a signal name to the >> parameter pins in the component, so I can use the home related pins in >> my ladder logic? > You can't. I am afraid I didn't consider that anyone would want to. > > You will need to edit the carousel.comp defnition file to make the > home state into a pin rather than a parameter. > > ie change > param r signed state = 0 "Current component state"; > > to > pin out signed state = 0 "Current component state"; > > Then sudo halcompile --install carousel.comp to install the new version. > > (Why do we have both pins and parameters? Pins use up shared memory, > parameters use the much less limited ordinary memory). > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Carousel Component
I don't have the dev package installed, I just downloaded it, to get to the remap stuff. On 10/30/2015 12:01 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 30 October 2015 at 15:29, <r...@superiorroll.com> wrote: >> sudo: halcompile: command not found > Do you have the linuxcnc-dev package installed? > > halcompile used to be called comp, but I think that your version is > new enough for it to be halcompile. > > I am slightly surprised that you have the carousel.comp file, > actually. And that you appear to have a linuxcnc-dev directory. > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] OT: Convert CRT to LCD
Hello Guys, This is off topic for sure, but knew of no better place to ask with all the electronics knowledge floating around here. On our big vertical lathe, it has an old 9" CRT that is starting to give us troubles, and I would like to convert it to an LCD, the only problem is, that I am having a hard time figuring out the signaling going to the new monitor. It is a Fanuc control, so it has a Honda 20 pin male connector going to the CRT unit, which I scavenged up the diagram for the pin-out. I have 20 pin female connectors here already, so I can make a patch cable to VGA to connect it to the new monitor, but the signals are different from one to another. The current CRT has Hsync, Vsync, and a single wire Video signal, along with three 0V wires in the harness, and on a separate connector, the power for the monitor. But a standard VGA has Red, Green, Blue, then Hsync, and Vsync, and a few GRD connections. Maybe I need a signal converter, I have found quite a few of them on eBay, or can I just make up a cable and run with it? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Convert CRT to LCD
Would something along these lines work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-NEW-MDA-RGB-CGA-EGA-to-VGA-industrial-Converter-/250851103017?hash=item3a67e41129 On 9/22/2015 10:00 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > Also note that VGA works with analog voltages for the RGB and the CRT on > your lathe sure has TTL for the video signal so it wouldn't work without > and adapter board. > > 2015-09-22 10:56 GMT-03:00 Leonardo Marsaglia <leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com >> : >> Hello Rick. >> >> Sounds like it has the same signals as our Mazak. Probably the working >> frequencies are the same as the CGA old monitors. In our case we replaced >> the old CRT with an old CGA monitor and connected the video signal to one >> of the colors. >> >> But in your case I guess the best would be to get an adapter card from CGA >> to VGA. If you have a scope the best you can do is to measure the frequency >> of both vertical and horizontal and you can be sure that you have the CGA >> values. >> >> Be careful with the adapter boards because I bought one that had problems >> with the input on the CGA port so It wouldn't work. Finally a really nice >> guy named Roy wich I can't remember his website sent to me a board that he >> manufactured for US 45 and worked fine, really well made I have to say. We >> are not using it at the moment because the CRT monitor that we installed is >> working ok but in case of a failure we have the board for replacement. >> >> >> 2015-09-22 10:42 GMT-03:00 Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>: >> >>> Hello Guys, >>> >>> This is off topic for sure, but knew of no better place to ask with all >>> the electronics knowledge floating around here. >>> >>> On our big vertical lathe, it has an old 9" CRT that is starting to give >>> us troubles, and I would like to convert it to an LCD, the only problem >>> is, that I am having a hard time figuring out the signaling going to the >>> new monitor. It is a Fanuc control, so it has a Honda 20 pin male >>> connector going to the CRT unit, which I scavenged up the diagram for >>> the pin-out. I have 20 pin female connectors here already, so I can make >>> a patch cable to VGA to connect it to the new monitor, but the signals >>> are different from one to another. The current CRT has Hsync, Vsync, and >>> a single wire Video signal, along with three 0V wires in the harness, >>> and on a separate connector, the power for the monitor. But a standard >>> VGA has Red, Green, Blue, then Hsync, and Vsync, and a few GRD >>> connections. >>> >>> Maybe I need a signal converter, I have found quite a few of them on >>> eBay, or can I just make up a cable and run with it? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> Rick Lair >>> Superior Roll & Turning LLC >>> 399 East Center Street >>> Petersburg MI, 49270 >>> PH: 734-279-1831 >>> FAX: 734-279-1166 >>> www.superiorroll.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Leonardo Marsaglia*. >> > > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Convert CRT to LCD
Looking at the one print I found for my machine, it looks like Hsync 15.87 Khz, and Vsync 54.39 Khz, Rick On 9/22/2015 10:23 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > 2015-09-22 11:19 GMT-03:00 Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>: > >> Would something along these lines work? >> >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-NEW-MDA-RGB-CGA-EGA-to-VGA-industrial-Converter-/250851103017?hash=item3a67e41129 >> > I guess that board woul work ok since it looks a lot better than mine. If > you have the CGA frequencies you should have no problems. > > Mine was the same as this: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Arcade-game-RGB-CGA-EGA-YUV-to-VGA-HD-video-converter-board-HD9800-GBS8200-/170860805754?hash=item27c818fe7a > > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Convert CRT to LCD
Yep 54 hz, not khz, very poor writing on the print that denotes that. On 9/22/2015 10:51 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 22 September 2015 10:27:51 Rick Lair wrote: > >> Looking at the one print I found for my machine, it looks like Hsync >> 15.87 Khz, and Vsync 54.39 Khz, > I suspect you meant 54.38 Hz. That would be within the reach of an NTSC > monitor. Unfortunately those are limited to those tv's with inputs for > old DVD's and VCR's, neither of which is near sharp enough to do what > you want. That would imply a dot frequency in the 15 megahertz region, > and a GBS8200 video adapter, about 35-40 bucks that the game console > folks use so they can replace the failing CRT's in the coin-op game > consoles with modern but vga only LCD monitors. The inputs on that are > such that the worst adaptation you might have to do is invert the sync. > Almost any TTL inverter can handle that. I don't know how that board > might react to the 5 Hertz diff in vsync frequency though as the only > place I have used one is on my Color Computer 3, whose sync was not 100% > NTSC compatible. Non-interlaced IOW. >> Rick >> >> On 9/22/2015 10:23 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: >>> 2015-09-22 11:19 GMT-03:00 Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>: >>>> Would something along these lines work? >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-NEW-MDA-RGB-CGA-EGA-to-VGA-industrial >>>> -Converter-/250851103017?hash=item3a67e41129 >>> I guess that board woul work ok since it looks a lot better than >>> mine. If you have the CGA frequencies you should have no problems. >>> >>> Mine was the same as this: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Arcade-game-RGB-CGA-EGA-YUV-to-VGA-HD-vi >>> deo-converter-board-HD9800-GBS8200-/170860805754?hash=item27c818fe7a > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] GO704's fat spindle is being a problem child.
All I have to say is, is that I hope like hell that I have half the amount of ambition that you have Gene, 48 years from now, when I am your age. Rick On 9/21/2015 10:57 AM, Jim Craig wrote: > On 9/21/2015 9:45 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings everybody; >> >> Thinking in electronic ink here... >> >> Is there a quick & dirty but adequate way to extend the 2 most common >> carbide bit sizes in my collection in order to gain clearance between >> the workpiece and its holding jigs? Something like an ER8 that I can >> plug into an R8 maybe? >> >> What would be a good google search term? Or just hit Tormach's site. >> Their ER20 adapter covers up to 1/2", and sells for $34.95. Tolerable >> good. And it looks like it would extend the reach of a tool by at least >> 1.5". Thats also good, gets the quill housing up high enough to clear >> the jigs. The 15 count collet set is $192, or the 30 count set is $372, >> probably more accurate than some of the others, but hey, I'm carving >> wood here. >> >> Grizzly wants $317 for the whole 16 piece kit including adapter, South >> Bend brand. Neither seem to say what the OD of the nut is and I've >> already hit the side of the spindle against this jig when it was on the >> toy mill, whose rotating spindle nose is 40mm. >> >> But I hit a lick at LittleMachineShop. Tormach adapter & 3 collets, 1/8, >> 1/4 & 3/8, for $72.95 shipped. That will or should cover 98% of what >> I'll be doing. >> >> In the meantime I can make a new holddown bar for this jig out of solid >> maple, and set it about 3/8" farther away from the tool travel. And >> maybe glue on an extension to the flat plane of the front of the jig for >> additional workpiece support as some pieces will project close to 4 feet >> off the front of the table when mounted. >> >> Todays projects. ;-) Keeps me out of the bars don'tcha know. ;-) >> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett > Plain old R8 collet in the spindle would gain you the most headroom, but > you would loose your tool length offset each time you did a tool change > unless the tool has a depth collar on it. > > Jim > > ------ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe cutting forces
I know that our big machines have 7.5 kw Z axis motors, and 3.5 kw X axis motors. On 9/17/2015 8:57 AM, andy pugh wrote: > To size motors, screws, bearings etc for my CNC lathe conversion I > have been trying to find cutting force data. > > http://www.ijera.com/papers/Vol4_issue4/Version%201/U044134144.pdf > > Seems to say that a feed force of 100N is about normal. > This seems rather less than I would have guessed. > > Does anyone else have any feel for this. I have been designing around > 2kN, and I know that many CNC lathes have multi-kW Z servos. > -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll & Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools in one place. SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Debian Wheezy login
Here are my notes Marius, ENABLE AUTO-LOGIN To install lightdm in Wheezy, run as root aptitude install lightdm Configuration LightDM configuration file is found at /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf. Making a backup of the original configuration file is recommended. To change the current default Display Manager, run dpkg-reconfigure lightdm If you're new to LightDM, it's recommended to have GDM, slim or another Display Manager installed as a backup. Enable autologin Look up these lines in lightdm configuration file, uncomment them and customize to your preference. [SeatDefaults] #autologin-user= #autologin-user-timeout=0 Rick On 8/25/2015 6:58 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Does anyone know how to make the logon for Wheezy automatic? Can't seem to find a system setting :( - Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg +27 82 698 3251 +27 12 743 6064 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.6.9
Seb, Do you have the changelog? Rick On 8/11/2015 10:51 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Good morning folks, a new bugfix release of LinuxCNC is available: 2.6.9. All users of 2.6 are encouraged to upgrade. Highlights in this release are: * improved docs * touchy: Fix Set Tool/Origin defaults on lathes * gmoccapy: several improvements * vismach: work around a bug in mesa * interp: fix the mdi/oword/queuebuster bug Andy found * io: initialize the tool-in-spindle info correctly My thanks to everyone who reported bugs and helped each other on the forums, mailing lists, and IRC, and especially to the people who worked on the code docs for this release: Andy Pugh Chris Radek Jeff Epler John Thornton Moses McKnight Norbert Schechner -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe chuck keys
Pretty good idea Ray, Rick On 7/31/2015 10:53 AM, jrmitchellj . wrote: I have taken a tee handle socket wrench, purchased some short extensions and machined one or two for each sized chuck I have. Then put a patch of paint, different color for each chuck/key pair, on the chuck and the matching size extension for quick identification. (learned that from my grandfather) Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.*Abraham Lincoln http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Abraham_Lincoln/*, *Annual message to Congress, December 1, 1862* *16th president of US (1809 - 1865)* On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:47 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2015 at 14:34, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Have fun trying all three before finding the correct end - every time you pick it up :) One is hexagonal, so I should be able to avoid some of the errors. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] BUG in 2.6.6 and newer, was Re: Bug in 2.6 and Newer
Thanks Chris, I reworked it using the halui.feed-inhibit with a set/reset coil for the push-button interaction, and it works perfect, stopping the machine, I paralleled the inhibit signal along side the halui.program.pause and halui.program.resume outputs in my ladder program. I re-compiled back to the current 2.6.8, and motion stops as it should, due to utilizing the feed inhibit, but, on the resume there is still some funny business that I am noticing, a couple of times, after I hit resume, the machine actually sat there for 3-4 seconds, before continuing with the programmed g-code. On 7/15/2015 4:43 PM, Chris Morley wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:20:26 -0400 From: r...@superiorroll.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Bug in 2.6 and Newer I just switched it over to signal the motion.feed-hold input instead, it stops motion, but how do you get it to resume? Nothing I push resumes motion. Rick motion.feed-inhibit is the pin to use as it can't be overridden with an m code. it will finish a thread move before pausing. having the pin true pauses, false allows movement. Chris M -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
I'm not trying to do anything special, or use any thing special, That was just what I managed to cobble together to get those m-code functions together, they worked, so I left them alone, All I am trying to accomplish is when the operator enters a M41 (or whichever of my remapped codes ), it puts out a signal that I can then use however I need, ( in classicladder, directly to my 7i71 as an output,,) If there is more proper way to handle those remapped m-codes I'm all ears, as I have always said, I know just enough to be dangerous :) As for the python task, same thing, it's been on every INI file from the start of me doing these machines, I pretty much copy and past sections onto my new builds. It is way easier than using pncconfig to get things going, because we always have options that aren't available thru the config utility, Resolvers, 7i80HD cards for example. I will remove that straight away from what you are saying. Rick On 7/15/2015 12:21 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/15/15 10:00 AM, Rick Lair wrote: What is the proper way then to do that, take for instance the M41, it is supposed to signal the low gear change command. I put those together then 3 yrs ago, and they are on all three machines. It was the only way I could figure out, with my limited knowledge, how to get things to work, Gear changing is usually handled in HAL using stand-alone components, not by patching Motion. I dont know what changes you've made to Motion, so i don't know if that's appropriate in your case, or if there's something very unusual about your hardware that requires this unorthodox approach. Also, i see you're using the PYTHON_TASK plugin, which was started and then abandoned by someone who no longer contributes to LinuxCNC, and is still marked as experimental. Are you using it because your index_fanuc_lathe_tool remap script requires it? (That script was not included in your Remapped Codes attachment, btw.) -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
Correct, I did not modify any code for those signals, that was just the name I gave them. As for the tool change, I am using Chris Morley's remap in python, # This is a component of LinuxCNC # Copyright 2014 Chris Morley # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by # the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or # (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA # from stdglue import * def index_fanuc_lathe_tool(self,**words): try: # check there is a tool number from the Gcode cblock = self.blocks[self.remap_level] if not cblock.t_flag: self.set_errormsg(T requires a tool number) return INTERP_ERROR tool_raw = int(cblock.t_number) # If it's less then 100 someone forgot to add the wear #, so we added it automatically # separate out tool number (tool) and wear number (wear), add 1 to wear number if tool_raw 100: tool_raw=tool_raw*100 tool = int(tool_raw/100) wear = 1 + tool_raw % 100 # uncomment for debugging #print'***tool#',cblock.t_number,'toolraw:',tool_raw,'tool split:',tool,'wear split',wear # check for tool number entry in tool file (status, pocket) = self.find_tool_pocket(tool) if status != INTERP_OK: self.set_errormsg(T%d: tool entry not found % (tool)) return status # if there is a wear number, check for it in the tool file # For wear offset 00, we dont require a tool 1 entry in the tool file - so we will skip this check if wear1: (status, pocket) = self.find_tool_pocket(wear) if status != INTERP_OK: self.set_errormsg(T%d: wear entry not found % (wear)) return status # index tool immediately to tool number # immediately add tool offset self.execute(m6 T%d% tool) self.execute(g43 h%d% tool) # if the wear offset is specified, immediately add it's offset if wear1: self.execute(g43.2 h%d% wear) # all good return INTERP_OK except Exception, e: self.set_errormsg(T%d index_fanuc_lathe_tool: %s % (int(words['t']), e)) return INTERP_ERROR Rick On 7/15/2015 1:14 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/15/15 10:59 AM, Rick Lair wrote: I'm not trying to do anything special, or use any thing special, That was just what I managed to cobble together to get those m-code functions together, they worked, so I left them alone, All I am trying to accomplish is when the operator enters a M41 (or whichever of my remapped codes ), it puts out a signal that I can then use however I need, ( in classicladder, directly to my 7i71 as an output,,) Your M-code scripts manipulate signals (nets) with names that begin with motion., which was confusing to me. Can you confirm that you have not modified the source code to the motion controller, and that instead you just have some nets (signals) in HAL that you created with these names? If there is more proper way to handle those remapped m-codes I'm all ears, as I have always said, I know just enough to be dangerous :) As for the python task, same thing, it's been on every INI file from the start of me doing these machines, I pretty much copy and past sections onto my new builds. It is way easier than using pncconfig to get things going, because we always have options that aren't available thru the config utility, Resolvers, 7i80HD cards for example. I will remove that straight away from what you are saying. I wonder if it's needed for the fanuc style T-word remapping that you're using. Please post that script too. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
What are the limitations on program size? On 7/15/2015 1:14 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/15/15 10:59 AM, Rick Lair wrote: I'm not trying to do anything special, or use any thing special, That was just what I managed to cobble together to get those m-code functions together, they worked, so I left them alone, All I am trying to accomplish is when the operator enters a M41 (or whichever of my remapped codes ), it puts out a signal that I can then use however I need, ( in classicladder, directly to my 7i71 as an output,,) Your M-code scripts manipulate signals (nets) with names that begin with motion., which was confusing to me. Can you confirm that you have not modified the source code to the motion controller, and that instead you just have some nets (signals) in HAL that you created with these names? If there is more proper way to handle those remapped m-codes I'm all ears, as I have always said, I know just enough to be dangerous :) As for the python task, same thing, it's been on every INI file from the start of me doing these machines, I pretty much copy and past sections onto my new builds. It is way easier than using pncconfig to get things going, because we always have options that aren't available thru the config utility, Resolvers, 7i80HD cards for example. I will remove that straight away from what you are saying. I wonder if it's needed for the fanuc style T-word remapping that you're using. Please post that script too. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] BUG in 2.6.6 and newer, was Re: Bug in 2.6 and Newer
Figured I would change the subject, On 7/15/2015 3:10 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/15/15 1:03 PM, Rick wrote: Sorry Seb, it's been a very long week with our machines, Between 2.6.6 and 2.6.5 We have been on 2.6.4 since it was released, and after I asked about the pin name changes the other day in gmoccapy, I came out and updated 1 of our turning centers, and noticed this problem, not thinking it was Linuxcnc, because it was the machine that the HD took a crap on. I just went through and started back at 2.6.4, compiled, loaded a program, halui.program.pause and halui.program.resume work fine, as soon as it see's the input, instantaneously I get the intended outputs/machine reaction. Did the same thing with 2.6.5, same results, instantaneous outputs. Did the same thing with 2.6.6, now I see a delay in the output of the intended input, by a second or so. This must be a red herring, because the only change in halui between 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 has to do with the management of Task modes during MDI calls, nothing that should affect the handling of pause. Also, nothing at all changed in Task or Motion between those versions, which are the other places a pause delay could happen. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
Here is a copy of my INI file for this machine, showing the remapped codes, On 7/15/2015 11:53 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Your M-codes are poking Motion pins that don't exist in LinuxCNC. You must be using some other version, or be using some local patches, or something. That will make this hard for anyone but you to debug. On 7/15/15 9:36 AM, Rick Lair wrote: Here are the codes, And you are correct, bytes not kilobytes, On 7/15/2015 11:20 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/15/15 8:54 AM, Rick Lair wrote: Hello Seb, I have been working on this all week, I have run this program numerous times on my simulator test PC in my office without any issue, as soon as I try to run it on the machine, it gives us this fault. This morning I made a new config using the Axis GUI, and it gives us the same fault, (we are running Gmoccapy on our turning centers, and wanted to make sure it wasn't a GUI issue). Which version of LinuxCNC are you using? The only thing different between my test PC, and the machines are the added m-codes for the gear change, and for the tail stock commands, and we use the TXXYY tool change format on the lathes, so I modified the g-code program to eliminate the m-codes for the gear change, and tailstock, and change the tool changes to the MxTy format. I take it this means your real machine (where you see the problem) uses remapping? Please post your remapped g-codes. It doesn't matter which section he removes though ( no one section would specifically give or not give the fault ), the only thing we have found was program size made a difference, The main program is 367 lines long 6736 KB's, if it was kept under about 260 lines, or 5KB's Interesting. (I think you meant 6736 bytes, not kilobytes.) -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com # General note: Comments can either be preceded with a # or ; - either is # acceptable, although # is in keeping with most linux config files. # General section - [EMC] VERSION = $Revision$ MACHINE = 15CC DEBUG = 0x7FFF [DISPLAY] DISPLAY = gmoccapy LATHE = 1 BACK_TOOL_LATHE = 1 PREFERENCE_FILE_PATH = ~/.gmoccapy_preferences CYCLE_TIME = 90 MAX_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 1 MIN_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 1 MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 1.5 MIN_FEED_OVERRIDE = 0 MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 1.5 DEFAULT_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 1 DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 0.25 MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 1.00 MIN_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 0.01 INCREMENTS = .0001, .0010, .0100, .1000, 1. LATHE = true PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/cinci15cc/linuxcnc/nc_files INTRO_GRAPHIC = linuxcnc.gif INTRO_TIME = 5 TOOL_EDITOR POSITION_OFFSET = RELATIVE POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL MAX_RAPID_OVERIDE = 1 MIN_RAPID_OVERIDE = .3 # USER MESSAGES #MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE #MESSAGE_TEXT = This is a yes no dialog test #MESSAGE_TYPE = yesnodialog #MESSAGE_PINNAME = yndialogtest #MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = This is the short text #MESSAGE_TEXT = This is the longer text of the both type test. It can be longer then the status bar text #MESSAGE_TYPE = okdialog status #MESSAGE_PINNAME = bothtest #MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE #MESSAGE_TEXT = #MESSAGE_TYPE = status #MESSAGE_PINNAME = MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = LUBE SYSTEM FAULT MESSAGE_TEXT = LUBE FAULT MESSAGE_TYPE = okdialog MESSAGE_PINNAME = lube-fault MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = X SHEAR PIN BROKEN MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = xpin MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = Z SHEAR PIN BROKEN MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = zpin MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = Z MOTOR OVERTEMP MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = ztemp MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = X MOTOR OVERTEMP MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = xtemp MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = SPINDLE MOTOR OVERTEMP MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = spindle-temp MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = X MOTOR OVERLOAD MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = xoverload MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = Z MOTOR OVERLOAD MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = zoverload MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = SPINDLE MOTOR OVERLOAD MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = spoverload MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = HYDRAULIC FILTER BYPASSING MESSAGE_TYPE = status MESSAGE_PINNAME = filter-bypass MESSAGE_BOLDTEXT = NONE MESSAGE_TEXT = HEAT EXCHANGER MOTOR OVERLOAD MESSAGE_TYPE
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
What is the proper way then to do that, take for instance the M41, it is supposed to signal the low gear change command. I put those together then 3 yrs ago, and they are on all three machines. It was the only way I could figure out, with my limited knowledge, how to get things to work, Rick On 7/15/2015 11:53 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Your M-codes are poking Motion pins that don't exist in LinuxCNC. You must be using some other version, or be using some local patches, or something. That will make this hard for anyone but you to debug. On 7/15/15 9:36 AM, Rick Lair wrote: Here are the codes, And you are correct, bytes not kilobytes, On 7/15/2015 11:20 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/15/15 8:54 AM, Rick Lair wrote: Hello Seb, I have been working on this all week, I have run this program numerous times on my simulator test PC in my office without any issue, as soon as I try to run it on the machine, it gives us this fault. This morning I made a new config using the Axis GUI, and it gives us the same fault, (we are running Gmoccapy on our turning centers, and wanted to make sure it wasn't a GUI issue). Which version of LinuxCNC are you using? The only thing different between my test PC, and the machines are the added m-codes for the gear change, and for the tail stock commands, and we use the TXXYY tool change format on the lathes, so I modified the g-code program to eliminate the m-codes for the gear change, and tailstock, and change the tool changes to the MxTy format. I take it this means your real machine (where you see the problem) uses remapping? Please post your remapped g-codes. It doesn't matter which section he removes though ( no one section would specifically give or not give the fault ), the only thing we have found was program size made a difference, The main program is 367 lines long 6736 KB's, if it was kept under about 260 lines, or 5KB's Interesting. (I think you meant 6736 bytes, not kilobytes.) -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
Here are the codes, And you are correct, bytes not kilobytes, On 7/15/2015 11:20 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/15/15 8:54 AM, Rick Lair wrote: Hello Seb, I have been working on this all week, I have run this program numerous times on my simulator test PC in my office without any issue, as soon as I try to run it on the machine, it gives us this fault. This morning I made a new config using the Axis GUI, and it gives us the same fault, (we are running Gmoccapy on our turning centers, and wanted to make sure it wasn't a GUI issue). Which version of LinuxCNC are you using? The only thing different between my test PC, and the machines are the added m-codes for the gear change, and for the tail stock commands, and we use the TXXYY tool change format on the lathes, so I modified the g-code program to eliminate the m-codes for the gear change, and tailstock, and change the tool changes to the MxTy format. I take it this means your real machine (where you see the problem) uses remapping? Please post your remapped g-codes. It doesn't matter which section he removes though ( no one section would specifically give or not give the fault ), the only thing we have found was program size made a difference, The main program is 367 lines long 6736 KB's, if it was kept under about 260 lines, or 5KB's Interesting. (I think you meant 6736 bytes, not kilobytes.) -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com Remapped Codes.tar.gz Description: application/gzip -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
We don't have any M30's in the program. Rick On 7/15/2015 11:12 AM, Ken Strauss wrote: On the Tormach mailing list there was a report of the same error caused by having a M09 and M30 on the same line. Is it possible that this is a related problem? -Original Message- From: Rick Lair [mailto:r...@superiorroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:54 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run Hello Seb, I have been working on this all week, I have run this program numerous times on my simulator test PC in my office without any issue, as soon as I try to run it on the machine, it gives us this fault. This morning I made a new config using the Axis GUI, and it gives us the same fault, (we are running Gmoccapy on our turning centers, and wanted to make sure it wasn't a GUI issue). The only thing different between my test PC, and the machines are the added m-codes for the gear change, and for the tail stock commands, and we use the TXXYY tool change format on the lathes, so I modified the g-code program to eliminate the m-codes for the gear change, and tailstock, and change the tool changes to the MxTy format. The M-codes, and tool change work fine through MDI, and with other programs, so I don't think that is the issue. The supervisor has removed different sections of the program, and it will run, he puts them back in, and it won't run, It doesn't matter which section he removes though ( no one section would specifically give or not give the fault ), the only thing we have found was program size made a difference, The main program is 367 lines long 6736 KB's, if it was kept under about 260 lines, or 5KB's Attached is the program we are dealing with, the file ending in rev2 is what I am using on my test PC. Thanks Rick On 7/10/2015 6:04 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/10/15 3:43 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: I have a program with threading G33 that will run if I take the threading out of it but throw an error of Bug: Call Stack Under Run if I leave the threading in the program. We use a post processor for our programs and have done threading in the past but this one is persistent. Any Ideas? Can you reproduce the problem by running the problematic gcode in a standard sim config? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
This error is showing up on 2.6.4 and 2.6.8. The machine was 2.6.4 yesterday morning, so we updated it 2.6.8 thinking that might fix it. Rick On 7/15/2015 11:20 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/15/15 8:54 AM, Rick Lair wrote: Hello Seb, I have been working on this all week, I have run this program numerous times on my simulator test PC in my office without any issue, as soon as I try to run it on the machine, it gives us this fault. This morning I made a new config using the Axis GUI, and it gives us the same fault, (we are running Gmoccapy on our turning centers, and wanted to make sure it wasn't a GUI issue). Which version of LinuxCNC are you using? The only thing different between my test PC, and the machines are the added m-codes for the gear change, and for the tail stock commands, and we use the TXXYY tool change format on the lathes, so I modified the g-code program to eliminate the m-codes for the gear change, and tailstock, and change the tool changes to the MxTy format. I take it this means your real machine (where you see the problem) uses remapping? Please post your remapped g-codes. It doesn't matter which section he removes though ( no one section would specifically give or not give the fault ), the only thing we have found was program size made a difference, The main program is 367 lines long 6736 KB's, if it was kept under about 260 lines, or 5KB's Interesting. (I think you meant 6736 bytes, not kilobytes.) -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bug:Call Stack Under run
Hello Seb, I have been working on this all week, I have run this program numerous times on my simulator test PC in my office without any issue, as soon as I try to run it on the machine, it gives us this fault. This morning I made a new config using the Axis GUI, and it gives us the same fault, (we are running Gmoccapy on our turning centers, and wanted to make sure it wasn't a GUI issue). The only thing different between my test PC, and the machines are the added m-codes for the gear change, and for the tail stock commands, and we use the TXXYY tool change format on the lathes, so I modified the g-code program to eliminate the m-codes for the gear change, and tailstock, and change the tool changes to the MxTy format. The M-codes, and tool change work fine through MDI, and with other programs, so I don't think that is the issue. The supervisor has removed different sections of the program, and it will run, he puts them back in, and it won't run, It doesn't matter which section he removes though ( no one section would specifically give or not give the fault ), the only thing we have found was program size made a difference, The main program is 367 lines long 6736 KB's, if it was kept under about 260 lines, or 5KB's Attached is the program we are dealing with, the file ending in rev2 is what I am using on my test PC. Thanks Rick On 7/10/2015 6:04 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/10/15 3:43 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: I have a program with threading G33 that will run if I take the threading out of it but throw an error of Bug: Call Stack Under Run if I leave the threading in the program. We use a post processor for our programs and have done threading in the past but this one is persistent. Any Ideas? Can you reproduce the problem by running the problematic gcode in a standard sim config? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com % N10G18G90 N20 G00X10.0Z1.5T0101 (T1 #NUCOR SHEAR PIN 7 9 1ST SIDE 907-44281) N30G97S150M03M42 N40G96S450M03D1000 N50G00X3.0374Z0.0303M08 N60G95 N70G01X-0.04F0.007 N80Z0.1005 N90G00X3.0374 N100Z0.00 N110G01X-0.04 N120Z0.0402 N130X-0.0294Z0.1005 N140G00X3.0374 N150X10.0Z1.5 N160M09 N170M01 N180 G00X10.0Z1.5T0202 (T02 C DRILL) N190G95 N200G97S800M04 N210M04 N220G00X0.0Z1.0M08 N230Z0.1 N240G01Z-0.079F0.001 N250G00Z0.1 N260Z-0.0759 N270G01Z-0.1414 N280G00Z0.1 N290Z-0.1389 N300G01Z-0.1907 N310G00Z0.1 N320Z-0.1882 N330G01Z-0.2 N340G00Z0.1 N350X10.0Z1.5 N360M09 N370M05 N380M85 N390G04P2.0 N400M86 N410G04P2.5 N420M01 N430 G00X10.0Z1.5T0303 (T3 ROUGH OD) N440G97S150M42M3 N450G96S450M03D1000 N460G00X2.601Z0.1001M08 N470G95 N480G01Z-7.695F0.010 N490X2.7275 N500X2.782 N510G00Z0.1001 N520X2.42 N530G01Z-6.4995 N540G03X2.4362Z-6.5056I-0.0176K-0.0317 N550G01X2.4988Z-6.5369 N560G03X2.52Z-6.5625I-0.0256K-0.0256 N570G01Z-7.695 N580X2.601 N590X2.782Z-7.6903 N600G00Z0.1001 N610X2.239 N620G01Z-6.495 N630X2.3849 N640G03X2.42Z-6.4995I0.0K-0.0362 N650G01X2.62Z-6.4943 N660G00Z0.1001 N670X2.058 N680G01Z-6.495 N690X2.239 N700X2.439Z-6.4898 N710G00Z0.1001 N720X1.877 N730G01Z-6.495 N740X2.058 N750X2.258Z-6.4898 N760G00Z0.1001 N770X1.696 N780G01Z-1.4234 N790G03X1.7062Z-1.4276I-0.0206K-0.0299 N800G01X1.7688Z-1.4589 N810G03X1.79Z-1.4846I-0.0256K-0.0256 N820G01Z-6.495 N830X1.877 N840X2.077Z-6.4898 N850G00Z0.1001 N860X1.515 N870G01Z-1.417 N880X1.6549 N890G03X1.696Z-1.4234I0.0K-0.0362 N900G01X1.896Z-1.4181 N910G00Z0.1001 N920X1.335 N930G01Z-0.0119 N940X1.4788Z-0.0534 N950G03X1.515Z-0.0848I-0.0181K-0.0314 N960G01X1.715Z-0.0796 N970G00Z0.1001 N980X1.2933 N990G01Z0.0001 N1000X1.335Z-0.0119 N1010G00X1.3743Z0.0001 N1020X2.782 N1030Z0.1001 N1040X10.0Z1.5 N1050M09 N1060M01 N1070 G00X10.0Z1.5T0303 (T3 FINISH OD) N1080G97S150M42M3 N1090G96S450M03D875 N1100G00X1.2782Z0.0958M08 N1110G95 N1120G01Z-0.0042F0.0085 N1130X1.4637Z-0.0577 N1140G03X1.495Z-0.0848I-0.0156K-0.0271 N1150G01Z-1.422 N1160X1.6448 N1170G03X1.6891Z-1.4312I0.0K-0.0313 N1180G01X1.7517Z-1.4625 N1190G03X1.77Z-1.4846I-0.0221K-0.0221 N1200G01Z-6.5 N1210X2.3748 N1220G03X2.4191Z-6.5092I0.0K-0.0313 N1230G01X2.4817Z-6.5405 N1240G03X2.5Z-6.5626I-0.0221K-0.0221 N1250G01Z-7.7 N1260X2.7174 N1270G00X2.9174 N1280Z0.0958 N1290X10.0Z1.5 N1300M09 N1310M01 N1320 G00X10.0Z1.5T0404 (T4 THREAD RELIEF) N1330G97S150M42M3 N1340G96S350M03D1000 N1350G00X1.9094Z-1.344M08 N1360G95 N1370G01X1.3438F0.0022 N1380G00X1.9094 N1390Z-1.375 N1400G01X1.3438 N1410G00X1.9094 N1420X10.0Z1.5 N1430M09 N1440M01 N1450 G00X10.0Z1.5T0505 (T5 SHEAR GROOVE) N1460G97S150M42M3 N1470G96S350M03D650 N1480G00X1.9000Z-3.9265M08 N1490G95 N1500G01X1.8281Z-3.9265F0.005 N1510G01Z-3.9955 N1520X1.8581 N1530G00Z-3.9265 N1540G01X1.7981 N1550G01Z-3.9955 N1560X1.8281 N1570G00Z-3.9265 N1580G01X1.7793 N1590G02X1.7681Z-3.9274I0.0023K-0.0345 N1600G01Z-3.9947 N1610G02X1.7773Z-3.9955I0.0079K0.0337 N1620G01X1.7981 N1630G00Z-3.9274 N1640G01X1.7681 N1650G02X1.7381Z-3.9351I0.0079K-0.0337
[Emc-users] Go back to 2.6.4
I had a HDD take a crap on me late yesterday, I believe vibration related, and have already loaded up a new drive, but I want to be able to go back to the 2.6.4 release, would the following be appropriate to perform from the command line to make that happen, git branch 2.6.4 or maybe git checkout 2.6.4 We run Gmoccapy, and I know that around the 2.6.5-2.6.6 release there were some pin changes and other things that came into place that I will need to figure out at another time, I just need to get the machine to same state it was in as of yesterday at 3 o'clock, so they can get back on the job hanging in the chuck. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Go back to 2.6.4
Thanks Seb, I do want to and will update to 2.6.8, I just need to get it back running, of course it took a crap in the middle of a decent size job. I just remember Norbert saying there were some pin name changes, and I don't know what they are right now to get them addressed. Rick On 7/9/2015 11:08 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/9/15 7:55 AM, Rick Lair wrote: I had a HDD take a crap on me late yesterday, I believe vibration related, and have already loaded up a new drive, but I want to be able to go back to the 2.6.4 release, would the following be appropriate to perform from the command line to make that happen, git branch 2.6.4 or maybe git checkout 2.6.4 git checkout v2.6.4 will make your working tree contain the exact source code that 2.6.4 was built from. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Go back to 2.6.4
I was just reading over the changlog now, and see a few little things I need to investigate before updating to 2.6.8, all relating to Gmoccapy. Mainly in the 2.6.6 release is where I see the most activity regarding this. Rick On 7/9/2015 11:50 AM, sam sokolik wrote: I don't know of any real differences between 2.6.4 and 2.6.8 that should effect configs... sam On 7/9/2015 10:48 AM, Rick Lair wrote: Thanks Seb, I do want to and will update to 2.6.8, I just need to get it back running, of course it took a crap in the middle of a decent size job. I just remember Norbert saying there were some pin name changes, and I don't know what they are right now to get them addressed. Rick On 7/9/2015 11:08 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 7/9/15 7:55 AM, Rick Lair wrote: I had a HDD take a crap on me late yesterday, I believe vibration related, and have already loaded up a new drive, but I want to be able to go back to the 2.6.4 release, would the following be appropriate to perform from the command line to make that happen, git branch 2.6.4 or maybe git checkout 2.6.4 git checkout v2.6.4 will make your working tree contain the exact source code that 2.6.4 was built from. -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Go back to 2.6.4
Looks like it didn't matter, I'm not using those pins for anything anyway. I just wasn't sure if it was a large amount of things, and I was going to sit there for an hour hashing out what I needed to fix. Looks like I am just going to run the most current after all. Thanks Guys, Rick On 7/9/2015 12:11 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 9 July 2015 at 17:01, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: .feed-override-counts- .feed-override.counts .spindle-override-counts - .spindle-override.counts .jog-speed-counts- .jog-speed.counts .max-vel-counts - .max-velocity.counts It looks like there will be at most 4 HAL lines to change. That's likely to be less trouble than trying to get a specific version. -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
